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Battalion battalion's battalion commander "Ghost" spoke about a fight with Ukrainians in the Svetlodar arc

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The commander of the battalion "Ghost" of the armed forces of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR), Aleksey Markov, announced the destruction of the sabotage group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU) near the city of Svetlodarsk. About this he wrote on his page on the social network "VKontakte".


Today, dill once again tried to move to our position. The end was a bit predictable: four “two hundredths” on their part, two “three hundredths” from ours
- said Markov. He added that the soldiers of the APU jumped on two enemy machine guns.

Battalion battalion's battalion commander "Ghost" spoke about a fight with Ukrainians in the Svetlodar arc


I still can not understand what they expected
- noted the battalion commander "Ghost".

In turn, the Ukrainian volunteer Semen Kabakayev on his Facebook page reported that there were many dead and wounded in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Called from the front line, the mood is disgusting. There are a few missing people who are currently evacuating.
- he said.

The press center of the ATO headquarters reported that in just one day, the APU had lost five people killed.

On November 22, Ukrainian volunteer Yury Mysyagin said that the Ukrainian army had launched an offensive in the Svetlodarsk area. According to him, the Armed Forces of Ukraine seized several villages and strategic heights, reports "Lenta.ru"
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  1. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 24 November 2017 12: 17
    14
    Ukrainian volunteer Semyon Kabakayev on his Facebook page said that there are many dead and wounded in the Armed Forces.
    there and the road am let them not climb into a foreign land
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 24 November 2017 12: 22
      +4
      The situation on the north-western approaches to Donetsk:

    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 24 November 2017 12: 27
      +5
      Yefim died - well, and a bolt with him. good
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 24 November 2017 12: 29
        +8
        Quote: Mih1974
        Yefim died - well, and a bolt with him. good

        besides rusty good
        1. hrych
          hrych 24 November 2017 15: 09
          +4
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          besides rusty

          A bit of historical popular

    3. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 24 November 2017 12: 30
      21
      Combat battalion "Ghost" spoke about the fight with the Ukrainians on the Svetlodar arc

      Notice how the banderlogs are called in the article, and what the battalion commander calls them.
      To the blessed memory, the founder and battalion commander of the "Ghost" A.B. Mozgovoy, also made a distinction between the bandera and the Ukrainians.
      It was not the Ukrainians who came to clean and kill us No. , geeks-renegades.
      Today dill once again tried to move to our positions. The end was a bit predictable: four “two hundredths” on their part, two “three hundredths” on our part

      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 24 November 2017 12: 32
        18
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Blessed memory, the founder and battalion commander "Ghost" A.B. Mozgovoy

        I join hi
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 25 November 2017 10: 24
          +1
          Evidently Mozgova left behind a good groundwork ... The real leader and hero of his people ... He left (as we all leave someday), but his work lives on - and this is the most important thing ...
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 24 November 2017 13: 02
        19
        Greetings! We also have a tense situation north of Gorlovka, here is a map after occupied villages on the neutral.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 24 November 2017 14: 54
          0
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Greetings! We also have a tense situation north of Gorlovka, here is a map after occupied villages on the neutral.

          To beat them off, is it real or not? And then it’s really close!
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 24 November 2017 17: 28
            +5
            There is no order, since they were in the neutral zone.
    4. Orionvit
      Orionvit 24 November 2017 16: 25
      +2
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      there they and the road am let they not climb into a foreign land

      By and large, they don’t have their own. True separatism was just in the year 91 when the Soviet Union was torn. I don’t understand how this purely separate "state" Ukraine still accuses someone of "separatism"?
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 24 November 2017 16: 39
        +8
        Quote: Orionvit
        I don’t understand how this purely separate "state" Ukraine still accuses someone of "separatism"?

        well this is such a state
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 00: 29
        +1
        Quote: Orionvit
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        there they and the road am let they not climb into a foreign land

        By and large, they don’t have their own. True separatism was just in the year 91 when the Soviet Union was torn. I don’t understand how this purely separate "state" Ukraine still accuses someone of "separatism"?

        Do not forget how finally all sorts of Ukraine appeared !!! wink yes request request request
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 25 November 2017 08: 39
          +1
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          Do not forget how finally all sorts of Ukraine appeared !!!

          How how? Come up with. A completely artificial "nation".
  2. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 24 November 2017 12: 18
    +9
    The war is at the forefront, the war in microblogging, the war for the minds ... And at the root of everything is money again! Some are sawing and mastering budgets, while others lay their exuberant heads. Panas will collapse, and at lackeys forelocks crack!
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 24 November 2017 12: 28
      +3
      Hi fellow lightsaber! wink hi
      Today, dill once again tried to move to our position. The end was a bit predictable: four “two hundredths” on their part, two “three hundredths” from ours
      - said Markov. He added that the soldiers of the APU jumped on two enemy machine guns.

      Something he says. And I think so about the number of RDG dill. soldier
      1. Zhelezyakin
        Zhelezyakin 24 November 2017 14: 10
        +4
        Maximilian! (if you will allow?) hi
        Yeah. Sewed all white thread. Unaccounted losses have already been exported to Europe, to the authorities ?!
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 24 November 2017 14: 17
          +5
          Alexei, as you wish - if only without insults. drinks
          Quote: Zhelezyakin
          Unaccounted losses have already been exported to Europe, to the authorities?

          Given the commercial streak of dill - quite. wink
          I meant that for two machine-gun positions, four is a simple target. The presence of three wounded in the LPR suggests that the AFG of the Armed Forces was more numerous and / or the Ukropov sniper worked.
          1. Zhelezyakin
            Zhelezyakin 24 November 2017 14: 32
            +2
            I’m not special in army tactics, but the question is ... four died - what a fool perley at two machine guns ?! Either they don’t really agree on something and there are more losses, or the fighters are just green recruits sent for slaughter. Willfully draw parallels with the 95th New Year!
            1. Awaz
              Awaz 24 November 2017 18: 02
              +2
              most likely, the Khokhlovoys hoped that when they occupied villages in the neutral zone they could not meet resistance. In principle, it was so. The popados happened after, when they tried to see what was happening on the territory of the Donetsk guys. There they got a kul in the forehead. Whatever they say about the accumulated experience of the Khokhlo troops, but not many units, and even people, really know how to fight them. The bulk are cannon fodder and drunken stupid people. Although failures and pros happen.
            2. Lelek
              Lelek 24 November 2017 20: 08
              +1
              Quote: Zhelezyakin
              that so foolishly perl on two machine guns


              Hey. Or maybe they wanted to run across and they were cut off? Misunderstandings. request
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 24 November 2017 21: 43
                +2
                DRG, came in .. It’s just that they didn’t open, before that, all the firing points .. There are almost all the firing points, but not at all, but at the front line, at key points. Plus, the organization of secrets in the promising directions of the DRG. Plus, mines ... I think the "light" radars, too. It is necessary to ask Separ DNR.? wink
    2. Bastion Eagle
      Bastion Eagle 24 November 2017 12: 51
      +6
      Look deeper, comrade, I would even say smoother! These are not pans, this is dandruff of history ... but real men, warriors save our world with their lives. Bright memory to them and a bow to the earth!
      1. hrych
        hrych 24 November 2017 15: 12
        +3
        Quote: Bulwark Eagle
        Look deeper, comrade, I would even say smoother!

  3. solzh
    solzh 24 November 2017 12: 19
    +1
    Ukrainian army went on the offensive in the area of ​​Svetlodarsk

    Well, where is the OSCE, where are the screams that Ukraine is violating Minsk-2? How tired of these double standards. When will Russia punish the Kiev junta? How much can you endure these Bandera?
    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 24 November 2017 12: 30
      +8
      And why should Russia punish?
      Let Ukrainians punish their scum themselves. It will help the republics of the Russian Federation if you ask for help, and climbing into a foreign state is a bad manners ...
      1. solzh
        solzh 24 November 2017 13: 21
        +6
        Ukraine, like the Ukrainians, is not a stranger to us. Unlike Bandera, we remember our history and remember our kinship. Why did the USSR help in the liberation of Europe from German Nazism in 1945? We, as the last ones who remember Nuremberg, are obligated to destroy the nits in Ukraine. To help Ukrainian citizens to feel themselves not as serfs, but as people.
        1. Sofa General
          Sofa General 24 November 2017 13: 24
          +6
          Ukraine invited Russia to help, such as Syria?
          Ukraine asked to be part of Russia?
          Something I do not see these events.
          And to get in is a violation of international law.
          An example of the USA in other countries is not to be cited - the entire world media works for them, they will justify the bald line ...
          1. solzh
            solzh 24 November 2017 13: 30
            +1
            Why get in? Agree, some regions in Ukraine are ready to oppose the Kiev junta. The problem is that they do not have a Leader. You can find a leader who will lead the people of Ukraine. Another question is where and by whom? I have no answer to this.
            1. Sofa General
              Sofa General 24 November 2017 14: 21
              +3
              The leader must be from local ...
              But not the point. The bottom line is that initially you said "Russia must punish the Kiev junta" ...
              The answer WHY Russia should punish her you did not give. Speaking in legal language (and only it is applicable in international relations), you propose to arrange a revolution there.
              The junta should be punished by the Ukrainians themselves and no one else. At the moment, nobody called them the junta as international terrorists, and so on. Everyone turns a blind eye to their antics - and they wait for emotions to prevail in the Russian Federation, like yours, and Russia will fall into a trap itself.
              BRAVO! Do you offer Russia to become next to ISIS?
              1. solzh
                solzh 24 November 2017 14: 33
                +2
                Quote: Sofa General
                The answer WHY Russia should punish her you did not give.

                See my comment above. And the people do not need your international law. At 45, we, without the invitation of the German government, liberated it from Nazism.
                And what will the international community do when it finds out that we are liberating Ukraine? Will he declare war on us, will he impose sanctions?
                1. Sofa General
                  Sofa General 24 November 2017 14: 42
                  +2
                  At 45, we, without the invitation of the German government, liberated it from Nazism.
                  ,
                  Nothing that in 1941, June 22 - Germany attacked the USSR? And the USSR led the WAR. You do not understand the difference between the attack of one country on another and what you offer?
                  Another question: why did you decide what the people need. and what not? The UN, by the way, despite the fact that its status has now fallen, the USSR was also created among the founders to comply with international law. Who gave you the right to speak from the whole people?
                  Now, what will the international community do. Yes, it simply confiscates all of Russia's assets abroad, including private property. And what will Russia do - will go to war with the whole world? You will go?
                  In a word, you are proposing a very bad option, leading to the isolation of Russia in the world, suggesting that Russia punish the junta.
                  After all, the same United States, before hunting al-Qaeda and other bearded, OFFICIALLY recognized them as terrorists. Internationally recognized.
                  Feel the difference between what you offer and what?
                  laughing
                  Learn the theory!
                  1. solzh
                    solzh 24 November 2017 14: 47
                    +2
                    Yes, it simply confiscates all of Russia's assets abroad, including private property.

                    But Russia has no such experience? Private property, you say, you need to buy real estate in your country.
                    You will go?
                    If they take a disabled person to war, I’ll go.
                    you offer a very bad option
                    I suggest something. So you suggest.
                    Learn the theory!
                    I’m not the age to learn something. Well, you are a patriot hi
                    1. solzh
                      solzh 24 November 2017 14: 48
                      +2
                      but why did you decide what the people need. and what not?

                      I communicate with people.
                      1. Sofa General
                        Sofa General 24 November 2017 15: 03
                        +2
                        I will answer out of order ...
                        1. Learning is never too late.
                        2. Russia has experience of nationalization. Russia has no experience of confiscation. These are different concepts, although essentially the same thing - to select in their favor.
                        3. Acquire real estate in your country - you say it with curls and sechin - but you will probably hear it.
                        4. I will repeat my proposal (apparently you didn’t read or inattentively: "Let the Ukrainians punish their scum. They will help the Republics of the Russian Federation if they ask for help, and getting into a foreign state is a bad idea ..."
                        5. I don’t know what kind of people you communicate with and why they don’t need international law, but the example of Kosovo apparently did not teach you anything, nor those you communicate with.
                        Output. Sad It is sad that you want to live "according to the concepts" of a force that wants to be based on your emotions.
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 24 November 2017 22: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: solzh
                  And what will the international community do when it finds out that we are liberating Ukraine? Will he declare war on us, will he impose sanctions?

                  What are you going to offer Ukraine? Exchange some corrupt bourgeoisie for others?
                  Or do you have a different concept? So voice, we will hear.
              2. Hlavaty
                Hlavaty 24 November 2017 18: 49
                +4
                Quote: Sofa General
                The junta should be punished by the Ukrainians themselves and no one else.

                Familiar training manual. Can you tell how simple, disorganized, untrained, unarmed people should punish organized, trained, with international funding and political cover, which even Uncle Vova recognized for legitimate authority?
                Have you tried that shit yourself? Why do you offer people?
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 24 November 2017 22: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: Hlavaty
                  You can tell how simple disorganized, untrained, unarmed people should punish organized, trained, with international funding and political cover,

                  No, he cannot!
                  Quote: Hlavaty
                  whom even Uncle Vova recognized for legitimate authority?

                  Even, this does not mean the Russian people.
                  Quote: Hlavaty
                  Have you tried that shit yourself? Why do you offer people?

                  It’s always better to offer tactics and strategies from the couch ... unfortunately .., We just lose ourselves, first we surrendered the GDR, all together, then CMEA, Cuba, Vietnam, then we pumped up on the past, and then rolled .. Serbs, "Saddam", "Gaddafi", who are you finally can such in the framework of the capitalist riot, who is next
                  Boys! only a united front, spitting on propaganda, casting aside ambitions, nat. husk ... otherwise kapets ...
                2. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 00: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: Hlavaty
                  You can tell how simple, disorganized, untrained, unarmed people should punish organized, trained, with international funding and political cover

                  better tell us how many tens of thousands of “Ukrainians” with territory controlled by Svidam joined the LDNR militia !!! wink yes yes yes
                  1. Hlavaty
                    Hlavaty 25 November 2017 13: 14
                    0
                    According to the LDNR itself, it’s not enough. I just think that, looking at what is happening there, some have already regretted it and dumped it in Russia or somewhere else.
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 14: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Hlavaty
                      According to the LDNR itself, it’s not enough. I just think that, looking at what is happening there, some have already regretted it and dumped it in Russia or somewhere else.

                      not a little - how much ??? 10 or 100 people ??? winked winked winked and taking into account how many tens of thousands of “Ukrainians” (and even from the southeast) tried to destroy the civilian population on the side of the Svidamites, then leave your tales about the disorganized nIFFchemniFinovoe ordinary population of Hohland !!! negative negative negative
                      1. Hlavaty
                        Hlavaty 25 November 2017 15: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        then leave your tales about the disorganized, nIFFchemniFFinovoe ordinary population of Hohland with you !!

                        That is, when you come to Ukraine, then put everyone on the wall!
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 16: 45
                      +1
                      That is, when you come to Ukraine, then put everyone on the wall!

                      what what what Apparently, you still didn’t understand that no one was going to release the hatskraynik !!! recourse recourse request request request
            2. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 24 November 2017 18: 43
              +2
              Quote: solzh
              Another question is where and by whom?

              And the first question is WHERE?
              In Russia? So here he is, Couch Grendels shout that they do not need Ukraine.
              They have already gone to Europe. With Independence played enough. What else. Now it’s kind of moving to a bunch of “people's” republics, which will be dogged between themselves and begging on all sides of the world.
              So the main question is where this leader will lead people.
              1. Sofa General
                Sofa General 24 November 2017 21: 28
                +2
                Hlavaty
                Urgently give an example where I said that Ukraine "is not needed." Right here is a quote to the studio.
                According to the "manuals you know" - and did you study them a lot?
                Can you tell how simple, disorganized, untrained, unarmed people should punish organized, trained, with international funding and political cover, which even Uncle Vova recognized for legitimate power?

                So do you also think that Uncle Vova should send troops? And to become an aggressor in the eyes of the whole world? Does the example of Syria or Abkhazia tell you anything? You saw the manuals, but do tracing paper weakly? Apparently our doctors did not lie to me when they said that in Ukraine they are testing new drugs that affect the brain.
                Or did you take the position: we've been shitting here, so you come to clean up after us, and then we will also water you with new mud? No, it won’t.
                When you were told that the Maidan is evil, HOW MUCH DO YOU GO FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE EAGLE? Hiding in the huts, and now, Rossiyushka, come, drive this bastard away, are we good? We want to eat, Europe does not let us go ...
                No, my dears ...
                Ukraine as a state should cease to exist. Break up into a bunch of people's republics? It’s not a question - then we will take them one by one, according to the results of the Referenda, we will take them to Russia. But in a single piece of territory within the borders of even 2015, no, it’s not necessary anymore.
                And if you put aside emotions, take into account world law and other and other, you will understand that this is the only way. In another way. But to draw Russia into your showdown - fire. We have enough of what to deal with.
                1. Hlavaty
                  Hlavaty 24 November 2017 22: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: Sofa General
                  Urgently give an example where I said that Ukraine "nafig is not needed."

                  So you still need Ukraine. But in order to get it you don’t want to do anything, but want the Ukrainians themselves to deal with the enemy (by the way, this is your enemy too) and bring Ukraine to you on a silver platter?
                  But if the Ukrainians themselves could restore order in the country, then no one would expect help from Russia either. This would be an internal Ukrainian problem, not related to Russia.
                  However, it has now become quite obvious that the Ukrainians themselves are not able to cope with the force that the West has been cultivating for a long time, and there will be no resistance without equivalent external influence. Therefore, some Ukrainians look towards Russia with hope. Moreover, the enemy does not hide that his main goal is Russia.

                  And how you and many other "Russian" commentators are behaving now, I can illustrate with such a picture:
                  A man is drowning in the river, and is clearly unable to swim independently. People are standing on the shore and, instead of helping the drowning man, they shout to him, "Let’s get out by yourself! Once I’ve been able to climb, then you can get out! Etc."
                  Most likely drowning drown. And if by some miracle he gets out, then NEVER he will be nice to those screamers.
                  That’s the essence of this State Department’s training manual: even if the Ukrainians do something miraculous. Without the help of Russia. Then they will always be whispered to them: “Do you remember when there was trouble in your country? How did the Russians clown over you? How did they refuse to help you?” And the next horses will grow on this.

                  Therefore, before you become a “fair judge” in relation to those in distress, think about what is more important for you: abstract “justice” or human relations with neighbors. I’m not even pretending to be brothers.
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 24 November 2017 23: 07
                    +4
                    Great picture ... Drowning man and all that ...
                    But Ukraine is not one drowning person. Ukraine is 35 million. Ukraine, this, whatever one may say, is a state with its own institutions.
                    I will give an example of the same Syria.
                    So, there is Assad, and there is the opposition, which the United States helps under one pretext or another. The establishment of democracy or the death of a dictatorship is not the point. The main thing is that there is opposition, i.e. people (even puppets) with whom you can somehow talk. They create, albeit at the direction of, some kind of government and other and other ... But what I tell you - remember how they organized the Maidan, and with whom and who there were negotiating.
                    Well, at least create the appearance of this opposition. Show with whom, even if you can talk with Pavlov’s dog. Republic? So why is Minsk needed - to shove them back into Ukraine, and then, as a “fight” against tyranny (now Poroshenko, then another surname may come), to come to the rescue of language, culture, ethnos. Because in the Republics there are those with whom you can talk - I repeat once again, even if they do not say anything without a prompter.
                    Where is the opposition in Ukraine now? Why is there no government in exile? Why is the same Yanuk silent, like a fish on ice? After all, he was the president of the country. On arrival in Rostov, he could have announced a coup d'etat to the whole world, called for restoration of “justice” - but no, he didn’t even do it officially.
                    Syria is not enough? An example of Abkhazia. Almost the same thing, one to one.
                    Kosovo, although this is not our example.
                    Crimea in the end.
                    Now consider a different situation. So Russia came to Ukraine to restore order. What will Russia get in the end? Guerrilla warfare? Terrorist attacks in cities? The death of their soldiers? The title of aggressor in the eyes of the whole world? And that is exactly what she will receive, because she came uninvited. Tell me, they say the people called her? So again, I repeat - the people should have a representative (the word may be incorrect, but reflecting the essence), there must be a leader. Where is he? Who to negotiate with?
                    In politics, emotions are inappropriate. And you press on emotions just.
                    1. Hlavaty
                      Hlavaty 25 November 2017 11: 35
                      0
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      I will give an example of the same Syria.
                      So there is Assad,

                      You can end with an example. Our legitimate Assad has faded to Russia. Why he was not forced to "invite" military-technical assistance in Russia, the question is not for me.
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      Why is the same Yanuk silent, like a fish on ice?

                      Ask your ruler: Yanyk and all his accomplices are at Putin's full disposal.
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      Where is the opposition in Ukraine now?

                      Visibility of the opposition in the Rada. The real opposition has partially escaped, partially in prison, partially buried in forest belts without trial or investigation.
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      So Russia came to Ukraine to restore order. What will Russia get in the end?

                      Why do you immediately begin to fight like that? At least listen to yourself:
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      - Remember how they organized the Maidan,

                      Before you go somewhere, you must first do a lot of preparatory work. This is exactly what only Americans alone have officially spent 5 billion dollars on. And how much more was spent informally and how much the rest of the West threw to God alone is known.
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      So again, I repeat - the people should have a representative (the word may be incorrect, but reflecting the essence), there must be a leader. Where is he? Who to negotiate with?

                      Did Maidan have a leader? Not. There was a group of applicants. Each of these candidates was not put forward by the people, but by an external force that selected and trained these “leaders” for quite some time. Each of them had funding and trained fighters and foreign instructors. And most importantly, political support, which paralyzed the country's leadership.
                      If the West were looking for a ready-made leader, he would still be doing it. But the West did not suffer such naivety and simply CREATED my leader. And not just one, but a whole deck, which he can now lay out as he needs to solve a specific problem.
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      In politics, emotions are inappropriate.

                      Politics always uses the emotions of the people - the same Maidan is evidence of this. Any serious political event (from elections to revolution) is accompanied by the "inspiration of the masses", which is used by politicians. Therefore, the State Department’s training manual is aimed at creating the necessary emotional background, which they will then use.
                      Already used: pro-Russian Ukrainians are at a loss and dismay, while pro-Western mock them: "Well, what did your Raska help you? And it won’t help - you don’t need her anyway."
                      1. Sofa General
                        Sofa General 25 November 2017 13: 01
                        +2
                        Yeah! So your "legitimate Assad" has faded, and he was not forced ... My hut from the edge? Again Russia is to blame?
                        Preparatory work? Those. it is not conducted, in your opinion, from the word "no way" ...
                        Maidan had leaders - albeit as you said "a bunch of applicants" - i.e. They talked to them.
                        Emotions in politics are inappropriate. Maidan is evidence of this. Politics were not created on the Maidan. It was created in the silence of the offices - and the crowd was simply led to where the leader needed to. Do you really think screamers and those who jumped politicians? Three times ha.
                  2. Herman 4223
                    Herman 4223 24 November 2017 23: 49
                    +3
                    Not all Russians think like that. "International law." There is only the law of power, who has the power and right. Therefore, it is necessary to show power, and we have already been appointed the aggressor. Whether we beat the fascists or not will make little difference to us There is a different state, but the same people, not a stranger, speak the same language. Helping a brother is simply a duty for an honest person.
                    1. Hlavaty
                      Hlavaty 25 November 2017 11: 36
                      +1
                      Thank you for your understanding and kind words.
                    2. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 25 November 2017 13: 06
                      +2
                      Hermann.
                      Here is an honest word. If tomorrow there will be a "patriotic Maidan" in the Russian Federation - you will ride there in the forefront. Because you do not want to think in any way.
                      Abkhazia, Crimea - you cannot even analyze why, in addition to words and sanctions, the world community is silent and engaged in talking more.
                      And you’re trying to "rub" me about the "duty of an honest man."
                      The power right? Oh well. Tomorrow some “Kolya Valuev” will come to you, and on the rights of strength will select an apartment, a summer residence, dishonor his wife and daughter - what will you do? By your logic - humbly accept your fate ...
            3. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 00: 32
              +1
              Quote: solzh
              Agree, some regions in Ukraine are ready to oppose the Kiev junta.

              under what conditions??? when the Russian Army appeared ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing in this way anyone can !!! wink wink wink but partisan activity in the territory of hohland is not noticeable !!! negative negative negative
              1. Hlavaty
                Hlavaty 25 November 2017 11: 44
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                here partisan activity in the territory of hohland is not noticeable !!!

                The partisan movement can exist only with serious leadership and security from the outside. Read the history of the Great Patriotic War. At the beginning of the war, when Moscow did not support the partisans, the Germans crushed almost all amateur partisans. And only when they began to purposefully throw behind the military and NKVD officers who had the necessary experience and knowledge, when the Central Headquarters of the partisan movement was created in the spring of 1942 in Moscow, then the powerful partisan movement went behind the Germans.
                There are no miracles when yesterday's engineer suddenly becomes a cool partisan. In any business you need the necessary knowledge and skills. The same legendary grandfather Kovpak already had combat experience.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 14: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Hlavaty
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  here partisan activity in the territory of hohland is not noticeable !!!

                  The partisan movement can exist only with serious leadership and security from the outside. Read the history of the Great Patriotic War. At the beginning of the war, when Moscow did not support the partisans, the Germans crushed almost all amateur partisans. And only when they began to purposefully throw behind the military and NKVD officers who had the necessary experience and knowledge, when the Central Headquarters of the partisan movement was created in the spring of 1942 in Moscow, then the powerful partisan movement went behind the Germans.
                  There are no miracles when yesterday's engineer suddenly becomes a cool partisan. In any business you need the necessary knowledge and skills. The same legendary grandfather Kovpak already had combat experience.

                  You have an excuse on any topic !!! indeed, Khataskrainism is a crest of crest !!!
  4. BAI
    BAI 24 November 2017 13: 06
    0
    The militia confirms the capture of one village.
  5. senima56
    senima56 24 November 2017 13: 11
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    Is it not clear what they were counting on? In the LPR, the government "staggered", so they decided, "maybe"?
  6. midshipman
    midshipman 24 November 2017 13: 30
    +3
    Their destiny is only death. These Ukrainians do not re-educate. I have the honor.
  7. solzh
    solzh 24 November 2017 15: 23
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    Quote: Sofa General
    I will answer out of order ...
    1. Learning is never too late.
    2. Russia has experience of nationalization. Russia has no experience of confiscation. These are different concepts, although essentially the same thing - to select in their favor.
    3. Acquire real estate in your country - you say it with curls and sechin - but you will probably hear it.
    4. I will repeat my proposal (apparently you didn’t read or inattentively: "Let the Ukrainians punish their scum. They will help the Republics of the Russian Federation if they ask for help, and getting into a foreign state is a bad idea ..."
    5. I don’t know what kind of people you communicate with and why they don’t need international law, but the example of Kosovo apparently did not teach you anything, nor those you communicate with.
    Output. Sad It is sad that you want to live "according to the concepts" of a force that wants to be based on your emotions.

    I answer on points.
    1. It's never too late to learn - it's too philosophical, but I'm not a philosopher;
    2. I completely agree that nationalization and confiscation are essentially the same thing:
    3. Kudrins, Sechins and others - alas, they will not hear me, and if they hear me, the result will be zero;
    4. “Let the Ukrainians punish their scum” - they don’t have a leader who the people will follow to punish Bandera scum.
    5. With ordinary people, someone works in factories, someone has their own business, they are also different in education, some have higher education, others have high school. They don’t need international law, they see how international law is violated in the world (I just didn’t speak out correctly the last time, I apologize for this). An example of Kosovo - each, this example, interprets in its own way and he taught a lot.
    Your conclusion is wrong. According to the "concepts of power" no one wants to live. And the fact that my emotions go off scale, so I'm a man, not a log. And it offends me to see the humiliation of my brotherly people. Well, if you are sad, watch any comedy directed by Gaidai wink
    Best regards hi
  8. Grandfather ON
    Grandfather ON 25 November 2017 11: 09
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    Here from fresh. https://youtu.be/jnoq6bPkErw
  9. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 25 November 2017 13: 18
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    Sofa General,
    Quote: Sofa General
    Yeah! So your "legitimate Assad" has faded, and he was not forced ... My hut from the edge?

    And who do you think has the right to invite foreign military assistance? Do you think Putin will react to the appeal of an ordinary Ukrainian?
    Quote: Sofa General
    Preparatory work? Those. it is not conducted, in your opinion, from the word "no way" ...

    Here, in Ukraine, nothing is visible.
    Quote: Sofa General
    Do you really think screamers and those who jumped politicians?

    With some screamers, Putin pens at international summits and signs agreements. Is that enough to be considered a politician?
  10. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 25 November 2017 16: 49
    0
    APU fighters jumped out on two enemy machine guns, but two "three hundredths" with ours. sad
    Waited for when they first start to shoot?
  11. Hauptmann_07
    Hauptmann_07 25 November 2017 17: 50
    0
    "toad staples" ?! Well, let it go, let it go. Volodya said the bullet is enough for everyone.