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US fends off Putin’s strike

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Without exaggeration, the whole world is discussing the results of the meeting between Vladimir Putin, Hassan Rouhani and Recep Erdogan in Sochi. The meeting dedicated to Syria, has already been dubbed the "new Yalta". The United States, being not represented at the talks, despite the defeat of ISIS, intends to maintain its armed forces in Syria and use the Kurds as a tool to put pressure on Assad.


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  1. Dashout
    Dashout 23 November 2017 19: 34 New
    +5
    The more the stripes will resist Putin, the faster they will lose .. Yes, with noise, but lose ...
  2. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 23 November 2017 20: 12 New
    +1
    Americans certainly will not leave Syria ... They will create a government of Syria controlled by them. Territories controlled by pro-American Kurds and other opposition members are less destroyed and the main oil fields there. And the coalition opposing them from Russia-Turkey-Iran will not be durable. The interests of all three are too different ... the Kremlin is no longer up to victory, we must rather get out of the war and find those who want to jointly finance the restoration of Syria, otherwise we will have to put this burden on the Russian population. But Turkey and Iran, of course, have their own interests, they do not need pro-Russian Syria ...
    1. BLADFROST
      BLADFROST 23 November 2017 20: 30 New
      +1
      Just do not make an icon from the USA! Their positions are weak. Moreover, waging a war on several fronts will cost them dearly! And they can’t jump above the nose. And if Afghanistan joins this troika, then they will generally become uncomfortable in their own diapers.
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 23 November 2017 20: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: BLADFROST
        Their positions are weak.

        Everyone would have such "weak" positions ... The rest in your fantasies does not make sense to disassemble.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 24 November 2017 14: 12 New
        +4
        Well, yes, you only tell the amers themselves, otherwise they don’t know. Amer’s money allows them to keep troops anywhere and as much time as they need. Dollar hegemony provides global excellence. Everything else blah blah blah.
    2. solzh
      solzh 23 November 2017 21: 01 New
      +3
      They will create a government under their control of Syria.

      What's the point? Syrians will support Assad, as Syrians remember and know why and most importantly who destroyed their state and their peaceful life, this is the United States.
      Territories controlled by pro-American Kurds and other opposition members are less destroyed and the main oil fields there.

      About American Kurds, do you believe that yourself? In Iraq, the same thing was about American Kurds, and what did it give? At the same time, look at the map where the main oil fields pass.
      And the coalition opposing them from Russia-Turkey-Iran will not be durable

      I won’t argue about Turkey. They have their own interest - the Kurds. But the Russia-Iran coalition has been fighting terrorists for several years, unlike the United States and its allies, who are only pretending to be at war.
      to find those wishing to jointly finance the restoration of Syria, otherwise it will have to put the burden on the Russian population

      Thank you, but somehow we can handle it ourselves. Not the first year married. wink
      they do not need pro-Russian Syria

      Pozdnyak, Syria is already about Russian. Syria, one of the few who have remained with Russia since the days of the USSR.
      And finally. the Americans will leave, they will not go anywhere. Who else will leave them there bully
      Best regards hi
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 23 November 2017 22: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: solzh
        Syrians will support Assad,

        Most Syrians are fighting against Assad. Among local IGs - 70%, approximately the same among other Islamic organizations. Assad’s main fighting force is not the Syrian army, but Iranian and Lebanese mercenaries and volunteers. Without them, and the intervention of Russia, Assad and his Alavite tribesmen would not have existed for a long time. They were never loved by the rest of the Syrians ... The Alawites were a minority, there were about 15% of them in pre-war Syria, but they controlled all the key posts and governing the country. Iran is our geo-political rival. This ally is unreliable and temporary, Iran does not need the strengthening of Russia in B. Vostok. In the Syrian ruling elite, a split has already begun, the other day Assad removed his brother from the command of the Republican Guard, for a pro-Iranian position. Iranian influence in the army and in general in the Syrian government is very great. Therefore, Syria is not at all pro-Russian, only a part of the elite is oriented towards Russia ... How and whose position will prevail in the Syrian elite is still unknown. The Americans will not leave Syria for a long time. Strength is on their side ... There is no one to drive them out yet. Russia will not dare to war with the USA ... The rest - all the more. Sincerely. PS The main and richest oil fields and power plants in Efrat, unfortunately, are not Assad's.
        1. solzh
          solzh 23 November 2017 22: 44 New
          +3
          Most Syrians are fighting against Assad. Among local IGs - 70%, approximately the same among other Islamic organizations. Assad’s main fighting force is not the Syrian army, but Iranian and Lebanese mercenaries and volunteers. Without them, and the intervention of Russia, Assad and his Alavite tribesmen would not have existed for a long time. They were never loved by the rest of the Syrians ... The Alawites were a minority, there were about 15% of them in pre-war Syria, but they controlled all the key posts and governing the country. Iran is our geo-political rival. This ally is unreliable and temporary, Iran does not need the strengthening of Russia in B. Vostok. In the Syrian ruling elite, a split has already begun, the other day Assad removed his brother from the command of the Republican Guard, for a pro-Iranian position. Iranian influence in the army and in general in the Syrian government is very great. Therefore, Syria is not at all pro-Russian, only a part of the elite is oriented towards Russia ... How and whose position will prevail in the Syrian elite is still unknown. The Americans will not leave Syria for a long time. Strength is on their side ... There is no one to drive them out yet. Russia will not dare to war with the USA ... The rest - all the more. Sincerely. PS The main and richest oil fields and power plants in Efrat, unfortunately, are not Assad's.

          After all of the above, there is nothing more to tell you. Arivederchi hi
          1. Fedya2017
            Fedya2017 23 November 2017 23: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: solzh
            Arivederchi

            I understand. that I said not everyone knows and not everyone will like it. But what to do ? Reality is not always like that. as you want ... All the best to you.
            1. Spnsr
              Spnsr 24 November 2017 01: 15 New
              +6
              Probably worth emphasizing the title of the article. Putin has not beaten anyone, it's about the United States that fights off a blow. The fact is that an attack is not Putin’s policy, he builds partnerships, but those who see building partnerships, attacks, they are initially set up for confrontation.
              Regarding Syria, they are most likely already so tired of this war that most likely they haven’t been in the ig for 70% of the Syrian population for a long time, and if there is anyone, it’s more often in the territory controlled by the ig, and that’s because I want to live, but Assad’s troops will come, they will come out with portraits of Assad. There is a layman, and you call them ig warriors!
              Regarding Iran, I think they understand very well that if Russia had not intervened, then Iran would have been in place of the DPRK. And the situation would be more abrupt than with Syria! So it’s not about strengthening or weakening Russia in the region, but about survival, and this they will have to take into account Russia's interests.
              Turkey, the same relatively independent player, is either sent to the stall in which she was before the start of Russia's actions, this is evacuation and Nata, or play her own game, which she can only play with strong Russia and Iran, otherwise she’s fast driven into worth. So both Turkey and Iran are interested in the presence of Russia, and Russia can only be strong there.
              And Russia is interested, in my opinion, in a strong Syria, as a player in the Middle East. And already the relations of full-fledged players will dictate the agenda.
              And we are not talking about pro-Russian or non-pro-Russian. It is about identifying the interests of each player, while strong enough, and already against this background market relations will be built ...
              As they say IMHO
              1. kirgiz58
                kirgiz58 24 November 2017 06: 39 New
                +6
                You can safely be sent to help K. Lavrov, Fedya ... no. smile
              2. Fedya2017
                Fedya2017 24 November 2017 23: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: SpnSr
                that most likely in ig no longer have 70% of the population of Syria,

                IG is only one of the Islamic organizations in the East, and in particular in Syria. Unlike other groups, who managed to build statehood in the occupied territories. Since 75% of Syrians are Sunnis. this explains the success of the IG. Sunnis at the philistine and religious level are opponents of Shiites and Alawites. The IG is not only armed militants, it is officials from the local population, and oil workers and other industries, and just civilians. Google, if it is interesting how the uprising against the Assad and Alawite authorities began, and how the IS appeared in Iraq and Syria ... Of course, all Islamic organizations have had and now have foreign sponsors. In Syria, all Islamists fought with each other, and all against Assad. In general, both the IS and other Islamists are not some kind of army that invaded Syria or Iraq ... Mostly, the local population is mostly Sunnis, although it welcomes mercenaries and volunteers from all over the world. Assad himself does exactly the same thing ... As for the supposedly Russia-Turkey-Iran alliance, this is a temporary phenomenon so far ... Actually, there is no alliance so far.
            2. Konstantin Yu
              Konstantin Yu 24 November 2017 10: 10 New
              +2
              Quote: Fedya2017

              Most Syrians are fighting against Assad. Among local IGs - 70%, approximately the same among other Islamic organizations. .

              Where did such calculations come from, sir? You want to say that the population of 70% of Syria is the Islamic State and the remaining 30% are "other Islamic organizations" -terrorists? And who then lives in Damascus, Aleppo, in the free territory of the Islamic State? Oh! Offend the poor terrorist people of Syria !. Striped ears stick out from your version ... and you don’t get sick.
              1. misti1973
                misti1973 24 November 2017 21: 02 New
                +2
                There you will understand who the hell is against whom :) There are such things that it will not end soon. Plus, other interested parties are showing up: Saudi Arabia, Israel ... Erdogan also assaults be healthy! You can deal with Iran, but they can begin to stomp on it now. So you can be friends with North Korea :) Is it all right?
              2. Fedya2017
                Fedya2017 24 November 2017 23: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Konstantin Yu.
                You want to say that the population of 70% of Syria is the IG and the remaining 30% are "other Islamic organizations" -terrorists? And who then lives in Damascus, Aleppo, in the free territory of the Islamic State.

                You can not understand what you read, or do not want to delve into? Here, the pre-war ethno-religious composition of the population of Syria. Where did IS and the rest of the Islamists come from - just study the topic.
          2. Hottabych
            Hottabych 25 November 2017 08: 48 New
            +1
            Leave this troll to you. He has already spoiled in all branches!
    3. Primoos
      Primoos 24 November 2017 10: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Fedya2017
      Americans certainly will not leave Syria ... They will create a government of Syria controlled by them. Territories controlled by pro-American Kurds and other opposition members are less destroyed and the main oil fields there. And the coalition opposing them from Russia-Turkey-Iran will not be durable. The interests of all three are too different ... the Kremlin is no longer up to victory, we must rather get out of the war and find those who want to jointly finance the restoration of Syria, otherwise we will have to put this burden on the Russian population. But Turkey and Iran, of course, have their own interests, they do not need pro-Russian Syria ...

      And also they do not need Syria pro-Iranian, pro-American and about anything. But this does not mean that Russia will do anything at their will. Russia in Syria for a long time. Everyone will have to somehow live with it.
  3. vlad007
    vlad007 24 November 2017 05: 40 New
    +1
    For some reason, no one mentioned gas. Our interest is that the Qatari gas pipeline to Europe does not pass through Syria and the Iranians have the same interest, because they want to sell gas to Europe themselves - that's why a joint struggle arose for Syria. But Russia and Iran are among themselves competitors in the supply of gas to Europe, and as soon as the hostilities end, Russia and Iran will lose interest in joint efforts and competition will intensify. There was talk of creating a gas counterpart to OPEC - an interesting topic.
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 24 November 2017 23: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: vlad007
      Our interest is that the Qatari gas pipeline to Europe does not pass through Syria and the Iranians have the same interest,

      You will probably be surprised, but the United States does not need a gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU ... They are going to transport gas themselves through the Atlantic to Europe.
  4. vlad007
    vlad007 24 November 2017 05: 59 New
    0
    After laying the 2th string of the Turkish stream (1th string of 15 billion cubic meters for the needs of Turkey, and the 2th string of 15 billion cubic meters for sale to Europe), Turkey will become a gas hub for southern Europe and an active participant gas market supplying gas to Europe. Therefore, Turkey’s interest is not only in pacifying the Kurds, but also in sharing the gas market.
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 24 November 2017 23: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: vlad007
      Turkey will become a gas hub for southern Europe and an active participant in the gas market for gas supplies to Europe

      Turkey wants to become a gas hub. But the USA and Europe do not really want this ... From the side of Europe there are not even signs of the oncoming construction of gas structures towards Turkey.
  5. misti1973
    misti1973 24 November 2017 20: 56 New
    +3
    What a new Yalta there is! Don’t tell my socks :) Turkey and Iran are at home in BV, but Putin is not there. Plus, the machinations of Israel, plus the USA, which just won’t leave from there, etc. And what’s the benefit? For Russia, not for Putin. All these are costs that will not pay off! Did he decide to trade arms there? Or thinks that he will get Syrian oil? Huge plans! We saw what his plans turned into: with Donbass ass (nothing moves anywhere), and Crimea, like a deck on his neck, and in Syria, stuck like a fly on honey :) Everything that we put up as success, This is a serious popalovo. Where did you get the money for all this whistle on foreign territories?
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 24 November 2017 23: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: misti1973
      All that we expose as success is a serious hit.Where did you get the money for all this whistle in foreign territories?

      Unfortunately, many are zombified by propaganda ... Yeltsin times are too fresh in memory. In conversations at the household level, it is directly stated that even now the bulk of the population is not very fun. But it’s better than the unknown what will happen ...
      1. Hottabych
        Hottabych 25 November 2017 09: 01 New
        +3
        The bulk of the population is never fun. Nowhere. Looking for prosperous. ))) I can imagine what your environment in Ukraine has about domestic talk about Russia. And do not talk about the 90s, you in Ukraine in those years did not have the hunger of the devastation and chaos that caused in Russia. For another 5 years, live with your democratic, but slightly unlawful government, and you will understand what the 90s in Russia are!
  6. kkk888
    kkk888 26 November 2017 02: 54 New
    0
    not everything is so good. we will arrange a new conflict on the lands where the Kurds are now. but historically the lands are not theirs. even Iraq is aiming at these lands. at least a dozen countries will draw America into the new war. Having armed the Kurds, these Turks have already lost their minds to think. It’s not a secret that the Turks and the Kurds are blood enemies. Having turned the Kurds into their faith, Osman couldn’t even think that this will be a feud for hundreds of years. I don’t think that Russia will be able this time to be beautiful. Too many countries by will or historically