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Technodinamics is testing a new parachute for ultra-low heights.

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Tekhnodinamika holding, part of Rostec, conducts factory tests of the Sturm parachute for ultra-low heights. It is planned that the tests will be completed in the first half of 2018.


According to Igor Nasenkov, the CEO of Tekhnodinamika holding, the new parachute allows you to parachute personnel from 80 meters.

Technodinamics is testing a new parachute for ultra-low heights.


And as soon as he landed, he disengaged himself from the dome for a second and went to perform combat missions.
- added the head of the holding.

Parachute "Storm" is developing a research institute of parachute building, part of the holding "Technodinamika". According to the institute’s director general, Dmitri Tretyakov, the development has been initiated as an initiative.

We think that it will be in demand for the landing of an assault force on objects after working off with weapons. The enemy at this moment is demoralized, and it is necessary to reset the landing as quickly as possible, until he recovered.
- he said.

Scientific Research Institute of Parachute Building, JSC is the only leading developer in Russia of all types of parachute systems and one of the few enterprises in the world that independently implements the full cycle of creating parachute systems.

As previously reported, by the end of the year, the Airborne Forces will receive more than 10 thousand sets of D-10 parachute systems developed by scientific research institutes. New parachutes come to replace the old ones.
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  1. corporal
    corporal 23 November 2017 16: 17 New
    +4
    from 80 meters.

    what Well, I don’t know .... I would venture to jump from such a height, or not.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 23 November 2017 16: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: Corporal
      Well, I don’t know .... I would venture to jump from such a height, or not.

      You can try it wink , the main thing is not to be hard drinks
      1. corporal
        corporal 23 November 2017 16: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: Stroporez
        not hard

        "On the rope", but over the pond. And so that they already poured ashore wink drinks
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 23 November 2017 16: 33 New
          +6
          Quote: Corporal
          On the rope, "and above the pond. And so that they’ve already poured ashore

          One hundred pounds, and even better immediately “abruptly” on board and pulling out for Easter wassat drinks
          1. corporal
            corporal 23 November 2017 16: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: Stroporez
            and with letting out on the staff

            And then take it with you, for company wassat laughing
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 23 November 2017 16: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: Corporal
              And then take it with you, for company

              Together on one dome forever more fun laughing
              For the airborne forces ! drinks
              1. Dashout
                Dashout 23 November 2017 19: 36 New
                +4
                with 80 meters - this is out of the realm of fantasy .. but 10000 kits say that this is reality
                1. Falcond
                  Falcond 23 November 2017 22: 59 New
                  +2
                  10000 thousand. This is about D-10 ... it’s not for such heights
          2. Sevastiec
            Sevastiec 23 November 2017 17: 01 New
            +3
            If you pull it well, you can even without a parachute laughing
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 23 November 2017 17: 02 New
              +3
              Quote: Sevastiec
              If you pull it well, you can even without a parachute

              You can, but you do not need laughing
          3. Doliva63
            Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 05 New
            +7
            Quote: Stroporez
            and with a bucket

            Letters in the late 80s were forbidden to jump in their "rise". And before that, yeah, it happened, letting out like a bag landed laughing drinks
          4. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 23 November 2017 21: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            One hundred pounds, and even better immediately “abruptly” on board and pulling out for Easter


            to jump from eighty meters, you need to pull 150-200 commercials. twice
    2. MoJloT
      MoJloT 23 November 2017 17: 41 New
      +1
      Above 10 meters it makes no difference
  2. Cananecat
    Cananecat 23 November 2017 16: 23 New
    +1
    Well, at least they are experiencing something ... but at how many Technodynamics enterprises work is going through the stump of a deck, for some reason the author has not mentioned ... and this is not only parachute systems.
    1. Persistent
      Persistent 23 November 2017 23: 13 New
      +1
      Research Institute of Parachuting is completely collapsed. No new developments are out of the question. "
  3. Sergey53
    Sergey53 23 November 2017 16: 26 New
    0
    A parachute is good, tests are good. One is poorly conducted WITHOUT PARTICIPATION of those to whom they are intended. But together and faster, and cheaper, and without unnecessary troubles.
    1. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 23 November 2017 17: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey53
      A parachute is good, tests are good. One is poorly conducted WITHOUT PARTICIPATION of those to whom they are intended. But together and faster, and cheaper, and without unnecessary troubles.

      Human experiments?
      Dr. Mengele would envy you. A lot of normal dumps of mannequins, a set of statistics for well-being. Only then.
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 23 November 2017 20: 38 New
        0
        And didn’t come up with another option for cooperation?
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 23 November 2017 17: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey53
      A parachute is good, tests are good. One is poorly conducted WITHOUT PARTICIPATION of those to whom they are intended. But together and faster, and cheaper, and without unnecessary troubles.

      And so that the final tests were carried out by the developers themselves!
      If everything goes well, let them work further, but if not ... NO and no trial!
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 07 New
      +7
      First a mannequin, then a tester, then athletes in the troops (military, of course), then only l / s. It goes something like this. drinks
    4. SEERforSEER
      SEERforSEER 24 November 2017 17: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey53
      Parachute is good, testing is good.One is poorly conducted WITHOUT PARTICIPATION of those to whom they are intended. But together and faster, and cheaper, and without unnecessary troubles.

      Sorry, but where did you get this from?
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 November 2017 16: 33 New
    +2
    Not a specialist in this case, I’ll ask the experts — is the risk of playing in the box too high even at the paroshute risk? There should be some criterion of sufficiency, and I think that 100 is very life-threatening — you won’t have time to spare reveal, and here in general 80 meters!
    1. corporal
      corporal 23 November 2017 16: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I think that 100 is very life threatening

      100 meters - there was a lower limit for emergency and rescue parachutes.
      For basic - EMNIP 400-600 meters, depending on the model.
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 23 November 2017 18: 02 New
        +3
        In the distant seventies, when jumping from D-1-8, KAP-3 was placed on 300 m.
        With base jumpers, disclosure takes place at a height from 15 to 40 meters !!!!!!
        in addition to height, horizontal speed is also taken into account. There is a difference. jump from an airplane or a hovering helicopter.
        1. corporal
          corporal 24 November 2017 03: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: VadimSt
          when jumping from D-1-8, KAP-3 was set at 300 m.

          We have already 87 in 88-5 D-1 and D-5-400u.
      2. not main
        not main 23 November 2017 22: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Corporal
        Quote: Herkulesich
        I think that 100 is very life threatening

        100 meters - there was a lower limit for emergency and rescue parachutes.
        For basic - EMNIP 400-600 meters, depending on the model.

        Pilots really do not like to jump, although they are obliged to two jumps a year! To raise the "spirit", the regiment builds a regiment and Ivan Ivanovich is thrown over the 100-meter lane from S-4. S-4 was revealed, but not completely, Ivan Ivanovich flung himself to the ground! Yes, the speed was even higher than the set one. No offense to the paratroopers, but I believe in "iron" more than in "rag", although I always had in mind that under ... the third point (three warnings, you already blow into the water) was C4!
        1. corporal
          corporal 24 November 2017 02: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: non-primary
          C-4 revealed, but not completely

          Did you re-arrange on time? Or abandoned late?
          1. not main
            not main 24 November 2017 21: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Corporal
            Quote: non-primary
            C-4 revealed, but not completely

            Did you re-arrange on time? Or abandoned late?

            I definitely won’t answer this question for you! Honestly, I knew that parachutes were re-stacked, but about the terms "dark forest." And the attitude to S-4 was like a seat that you suddenly need (don’t bring the Lord). Of course not everyone, but most.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 November 2017 17: 59 New
      +3
      I will send you to the Soviet classics, the film "Komsomol volunteers." How is it there,
      "For this period, extremely small,
      He understood: "My poor friend,
      Cause you saved me then
      Deliberately tightening the jump "
      "

      Sometimes the risk of jumping from an extremely small one is much lower, a lot of Anglo-American, and even German paratroopers of the Second World War could tell about this. The Germans even invented "high-speed parachutes". Reducing the possible time spent under enemy fire from the ground. True, because of this, parachutists jumped almost unarmed. Until they reach the containers, one gun.
      Yes, and secrecy in this case is higher.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 12 New
        +7
        Nowadays, air defense is so developed that the main thing is not to jump from what height, but how to fly laughing
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 23 November 2017 19: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Doliva63
          Now air defense is so developed

          Not all of them are developed enough to control 100% of the territory.
          I remember that in Rhodesia in the mid- to late 70s they fought very actively and effectively with local rebels. And they jumped from a low altitude to mask the landing points
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 23 November 2017 22: 11 New
            +7
            Alas, Rhodesia does not threaten us. Yes, and the original airborne forces are not for fighting the rebels.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 23 November 2017 22: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Doliva63
              Yes, and the original airborne forces are not for fighting the rebels.

              I'm afraid at the moment they themselves do not really understand what they are for.

              Rhodesia is just one of the uses.
              In principle, the joint work of electronic warfare, aviation and RV&A is quite possible to "clear the field" for the tactical airborne landing. And airplanes will be preferable because of their higher speed.
              In addition, artillery can notably shuganut possible calculations of MANPADS, in principle, nothing complicated. If not to hit, then at least do so. to hide
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 23 November 2017 22: 39 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                I'm afraid at the moment they themselves do not really understand what they are for.

                Greetings Colleague! hi
                Here you are, alas, right. The experience of recent local wars, starting with Afghanistan, shows that the Airborne Forces are used not quite like that, but rather not at all as Uncle Vasya intended.
                More and more on horseback in the valleys, but along the heights.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 23 November 2017 23: 05 New
                  +6
                  Everything is decided if one sets a goal to bring the principles of combat use of the airborne forces in accordance with reality. Then arm accordingly.

                  And then it’s ridiculous: talk about landing on landing at field airfields is being conducted, and the techniques for their equipment with a gulkin stump. Moreover, she herself must arrive boarding.
                  Uncle Vasya had a holistic picture. I found out that ours were sawing a "station wagon" on the basis of a stolen French mortar, and "Nona" was born in record time. And now the picture is somehow fragmentary.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 23 November 2017 23: 23 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Spade
                    if you set a goal to bring the principles of combat use of the airborne forces in accordance with reality. Then arm accordingly.

                    Exactly, there is no concept ...
                    And as a result, and as a result, the Airborne Forces are used anywhere as infantry, and for the role of explosives ..
                    And looking at the exercises, it seems that the troops are preparing for war with gangs of terrorists, and not for full-scale hostilities. IMHO of course.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 23 November 2017 23: 34 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      And looking at the exercises, it seems that the troops are preparing for war with gangs of terrorists

                      Incidentally, this is also a very, very difficult task, and the troops have yet to prepare for this.
                      Why, in fact, I remembered Rhodesia: there, the paratroopers proved to be the most effective means of combating all sorts of "rebels" and "fighters for swaboda."
                      After all, practically “the sweeps” were practically analogous to their actions with a crowd of army people who had long and stubbornly deployed a blocking ring and with a no lesser crowd of explosives who were wandering around the village houses with searches and passport checks in an attempt to grab the “bird of happiness” by the tail and catch at least one of the slow ones so that he did not have time to leave before the village was surrounded.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 24 November 2017 10: 30 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Indeed, in practice, “stripping” was practically analogous to their actions. With a crowd of army people who had long and stubbornly deployed a blocking ring and with a no lesser crowd of explosives,

                        From the foregoing, we can conclude that the airborne troops are today more trained and mobile, and therefore they are used in operations, such as sweeps. But this is certainly not the task of the airborne forces, Vasily Filippovich would clearly not like this (to put it mildly)! Otherwise, what kind of a bolt then needs all kinds of Vovanovsky special forces, speckled berets, shmon-riot police and other and other.
                        My deep conviction that police operations should definitely not be included in the tasks of the Airborne Forces.
                        In my humble opinion, at the moment, the Airborne Forces are going to be used to plug holes in the border, in view of its great length. In the case of her, for example, a breakthrough, of course, the quickest response is to transfer the VDD, so to speak, with full full-time weapons and personnel. And then the question is: will the TA, in its current state, cope with such tasks as the transfer of a pair of airborne traffic, for example, to the Far East region?
                        I recall the film “In the Special Attention Zone”, in which we were all saturated with romance and love for the Airborne Forces as children and young men.
                        But now it’s clearly not that “concept”.
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 November 2017 11: 09 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      From the foregoing, we can conclude that the airborne troops are today more trained and mobile, and therefore they are used in operations, such as sweeps. But this is certainly not the task of the airborne forces, Vasily Filippovich would clearly not like this (to put it mildly)!

                      Army cleanups, including the Airborne Forces, are not involved in the sweeps themselves. Only blocking and the role of "big brother". Moreover, infantry is preferable, there are tanks and normal artillery.
                      Well, actually the "mothballs and the police" were engaged in the cleaning itself. Well, plus FSBshniki, but they worked for specific addresses

                      Quote: Stroporez
                      And then the question is: will the TA, in its current state, cope with such tasks as the transfer of a pair of airborne traffic, for example, to the Far East region?

                      BTA will handle it. Airborne - I do not think so. Even under the USSR, the question of quickly creating field airfields for landing landing on occupied by advanced units territory was not really brought to mind.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 24 November 2017 11: 44 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Even under the USSR, the question of quickly creating field airfields for landing landing on occupied by advanced units territory was not really brought to mind.

                        I hope to capture and hold enemy airfields and runways.
                        That’s characteristic, we meet on August 2, it’s clear that everyone served in the Airborne Forces, but the service for everyone was so different that sometimes you are amazed.
                        It’s especially hard to listen to those who happened in Chechnya .... you catch yourself thinking better a couple of times “across the river” than once in the “Czech Republic” .....
  5. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 November 2017 16: 36 New
    0
    If this system will be reliable, then it is very important for the fast operations of the landing, the seizure of bridgeheads, objects. The enemy does not have time to come to his senses on anyone, and capture occurs.
    1. Romanenko
      Romanenko 23 November 2017 16: 50 New
      +1
      Well, in time, the question is not in time. The transporter still needs to fly to the landing site, so at least the enemy will be in the know, it’s quite difficult to fly in secretly, well, or with the engines turned off, to plan and materialize from the air right at the drop-off site .... But when using an ekranoplan, it can really to bounce.
      The screen flies low, it has all the advantages, such a parachute to marines and special forces is more suitable than a tactical landing.
    2. alstr
      alstr 23 November 2017 17: 04 New
      0
      For this, it is probably better to use non-parachute systems. Or something like a knapsack engine.
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 23 November 2017 17: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey-74
      then it is very important for the fast operations of the landing, the seizure of bridgeheads, objects. The enemy does not have time to come to his senses on anyone, and capture occurs.

      We need more delivery vehicles!
  6. Romanenko
    Romanenko 23 November 2017 16: 46 New
    0
    Just like from fiction, it’s interesting to look at such a thing, and to jump too, but most likely it will be available for the next 20 years only to specialists ...
    1. san4es
      san4es 23 November 2017 17: 02 New
      +9
      Quote: Romanenko
      Just like a fantasy, it’s interesting to look at such a thing, ..

      ... Dome is open soldier

      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 23 November 2017 17: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: san4es
        . Dome outdoor

        Cool! I thought it would be some kind of “wing”, but here’s what a solution good
        1. Romanenko
          Romanenko 23 November 2017 20: 40 New
          +2
          No wing is excluded by design - the chamber parachute itself takes a long time to open, and then there is also a reef along the edge - also a brake. I haven’t jumped for a long time, but on the old D-5 domes of series 2 and D-6, the minimum safe opening height was 200 m, for backups - Z-3 and Z-5, as far as I remember, 100 was accepted, but this is all with a margin, really a little less. Therefore, probably the new mini-height miracle in design is tubeless for the speed of disclosure. And perhaps with a satchel envelope type, like a spare wheel. This is the fastest system, at least. Maybe they’ve come up with something newer now.
          1. Fkjydjckfrgh
            Fkjydjckfrgh 24 November 2017 15: 20 New
            +2
            Yes, it’s just that the dome fits into the “stocking” so tarpaulin (I don’t know what is really called), the dome is laid in it. The stocking with a dome for the halyard is pulled out of the satchel, the dome slides out of the stocking and opens almost immediately. The system is old and very reliable. In this case, a new “quick-opening” dome is used. We must pay tribute to the researchers for the large and laborious amount of research done. In addition to jokes, try to improve something that has long been known, but that many are trying to improve.
            1. corporal
              corporal 26 November 2017 16: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh
              "stocking"

              Case.
              Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh
              so tarpaulin

              Percale. hi
  7. ver_
    ver_ 23 November 2017 17: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Sevastiec
    If you pull it well, you can even without a parachute laughing

    ..to the Finnish, they threw the landing even without a parachute .. directly in the snow - but many ran into the trees ..
  8. andrewkor
    andrewkor 23 November 2017 17: 10 New
    +1
    I jumped from the An-2 about 30 years ago, in my opinion, from 60 meters without reserves, even there was a video.
    The Nazis in WWII had a parachute deployment system immediately after separation from the side, a bag from the parachute was pulled off by a halyard and the dome was immediately released. They even drove to Crete from 75m.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 23 November 2017 17: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: andrewkor
      I jumped from the An-2 about 30 years ago, in my opinion, from 60 meters without reserves, even there was a video.

      It seems to me that you come up with.
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 24 November 2017 06: 47 New
        +2
        I apologize for causing you involuntary suspicions, but my age and innate intelligence do not allow me to hurt myself in vain. unsuccessfully! About German landing techniques, equipment, weapons, military combat paths are well described in the book "Airborne Forces in WWII"!
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 24 November 2017 10: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: andrewkor
          I apologize for causing you involuntary suspicions, but my age and innate intelligence do not allow me to hurt you in vain. The report that I described covered the whole process of preparation and the very deployment of the experimental landing

          I apologize if I offended you with my doubts! soldier
          1. andrewkor
            andrewkor 24 November 2017 11: 05 New
            +1
            Don’t apologize that I am a Turgenev girl? Well, exchanged remarks on the case, all the way through!
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 24 November 2017 16: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: andrewkor
              Don’t apologize that I am a Turgenev girl?

              We are just normal people! drinks
    2. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 23 November 2017 17: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      I jumped from the An-2 about 30 years ago, in my opinion, from 60 meters without reserves, even there was a video.
      The Nazis in WWII had a parachute deployment system immediately after separation from the side, a bag from the parachute was pulled off by a halyard and the dome was immediately released. They even drove to Crete from 75m.

      I don’t know how about 60 meters, but the spare wheel at that height is ballast.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 21 New
        +7
        I don’t know about the ballast, but without a spare tire they won’t let go stupidly laughing
        1. Victor Dubovitsky
          Victor Dubovitsky 23 November 2017 20: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Doliva63
          I don’t know about the ballast, but without a spare tire they won’t let go stupidly laughing

          Yes, I understand the rules. But here to load overweight, to hamper the movement, and in conditions when the decision to use the reserve will come on the ground ....
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 23 November 2017 22: 15 New
            +7
            You can see right away laughing And imagine that in a flight to jump from an airplane, the motor will fail, jump from 600 m, the dome will fail ... and? The rules are written in blood, alas.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 23 November 2017 20: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Doliva63

          1
          Doliva63 Today, 19:21 ↑ New
          I don’t know about the ballast, but without a spare tire they won’t let go stupidly laughing

          Yes sir! wink
        3. zivXP
          zivXP 23 November 2017 23: 58 New
          +1
          Doliva63 Today, 19: 21 ↑
          I don’t know about the ballast, but without a spare tire they won’t let go stupidly laughing

          In the army - easy. We jumped without reserves from 150 meters to the D-1-5-y. So they said that it was necessary with 100, but we were still a little safe laughing so as not to enter the ground with a screw.
        4. andrewkor
          andrewkor 24 November 2017 11: 07 New
          0
          Please note that the jump was experimental, there are different rules and the participants are usually volunteers!
    3. parkello
      parkello 23 November 2017 17: 43 New
      +9
      what kind of 75 m are you kidding? I lived and worked in Crete ... and went to their cemetery. I heard what the old people told. there were 400 meters, and the rest on gliders landed. from 75 m they would all be broken. their system then was not able to extinguish the slip and a blow to the ground would be such a force that the knees above the ears would be. less read any nonsense from tyrnet. and it’s a shame even to answer such a thing. if their planes and gliders would fly 100 meters from the ground they would be knocked down with stones. and so more than half of their losses were from cold steel weapons, stabbed and lacerated wounds inflicted by scythes .forks. axes ... Do you even understand what is Crete? there are only rocks ... they will drop the cha from 70 m and will smash the cha into pieces on the rocks, because you do not even have time to pull out a group of slings in order to avoid running into a rock or a tree. in general, you amused me. laughing
      1. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 23 November 2017 20: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: parkello
        what kind of 75 m are you kidding? I lived and worked in Crete ... and went to their cemetery. I heard what the old people told. there were 400 meters, and the rest on gliders landed. from 75 m they would all be broken. their system then was not able to extinguish the slip and a blow to the ground would be such a force that the knees above the ears would be. less read any nonsense from tyrnet. and it’s a shame even to answer such a thing. if their planes and gliders would fly 100 meters from the ground they would be knocked down with stones. and so more than half of their losses were from cold steel weapons, stabbed and lacerated wounds inflicted by scythes .forks. axes ... Do you even understand what is Crete? there are only rocks ... they will drop the cha from 70 m and will smash the cha into pieces on the rocks, because you do not even have time to pull out a group of slings in order to avoid running into a rock or a tree. in general, you amused me. laughing

        Our crazy people can. Landing crews in armored vehicles. Who else could come to mind. I believe.
        1. parkello
          parkello 24 November 2017 15: 42 New
          +6
          Yours. Yours can drop cars along with the landing party inside. but not the Germans. especially on a completely unfamiliar island. and your fellows. but about the new domes, it’s generally beautiful. I remember in our flying club, I was studying in Tbilisi then, they also made similar systems. only there they took a dome and a suspension system with a D-5 satchel (classic, combined arms) and a camera cover from the D-1-5U. it is so long for the entire length of the dome. and gazyry for slings on it too. so already without a stabilizing dome and without a ring the system turned out. that is, the satchel was pulled with a thread of xb 10 number, and fastened to the cable with a carbine. and you jump and tear the string with your weight. you don’t need to pull the ring, and the dome itself creeps out of the camera, 100% opening. and almost instantly. This drastically reduced weight, because I did not need the PPKU-4 device or the two-cone lock or the ring. and to be honest, the Z-5 spare wheel was also, in principle, not needed. if you put it right .. and put it there as easy as shelling pears. he pulled out the canopy and slings, found a green or red sling, divided it into two sides and pulled on the camera, and then immediately zag-zag pushed the slings into gazyri with a fork, folded it, laid it behind his back, pulled it with a thread, and forward. fastened to the rope and jump out. I have long been crucified on this topic in the forums .. but the answer has now come. and happy that the same pattern. well done. The Soviet reserve was and remains the best in many aspects and technologies.
          1. parkello
            parkello 24 November 2017 15: 45 New
            +3
            and all because our first-born, all as one, no matter how many simple truths they can’t get into their heads, after pulling out the ring and revealing, they were lost and thrown the ring to the ground ... and then they ran around looking for the field .. and the field there was wide) ) and those rings ... collected three instead of one))
            1. Victor Dubovitsky
              Victor Dubovitsky 24 November 2017 16: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: parkello
              and all because our first-born, all as one, no matter how many simple truths they can’t get into their heads, after pulling out the ring and revealing, they were lost and thrown the ring to the ground ... and then they ran around looking for the field .. and the field there was wide) ) and those rings ... collected three instead of one))

              Apparently, more paratroopers were worried about the rings. And from a nervous breakdown, they were divided into many.
              1. parkello
                parkello 24 November 2017 17: 46 New
                +4
                no. just sometimes they didn’t always go looking, there were a lot of canceled domes. for training on earth .. laying there, what it consists of and ... but many threw. it’s just that not everyone attached importance to this. sometimes if something goes wrong and there is no dome, it doesn’t open, it’s not getting to the ring, in principle, but the D-5 has refused. The truth always helped out if I managed to open it. I had a failure on the D-5. from 900 m .. a jumping week was opened. on a spare tire landed. and confess, too, almost crap one's pants. and also threw the ring, but I myself went to look for it and also found two, my ring also from the UT-15 in addition. his ring shape is different and shiny, and D-5, 6 and so on is red, oblong. so that the arrester could drop the ring if it also landed on a spare wheel.
                1. Victor Dubovitsky
                  Victor Dubovitsky 24 November 2017 22: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: parkello
                  no. just sometimes they didn’t always go looking, there were a lot of canceled domes. for training on earth .. laying there, what it consists of and ... but many threw. it’s just that not everyone attached importance to this. sometimes if something goes wrong and there is no dome, it doesn’t open, it’s not getting to the ring, in principle, but the D-5 has refused. The truth always helped out if I managed to open it. I had a failure on the D-5. from 900 m .. a jumping week was opened. on a spare tire landed. and confess, too, almost crap one's pants. and also threw the ring, but I myself went to look for it and also found two, my ring also from the UT-15 in addition. his ring shape is different and shiny, and D-5, 6 and so on is red, oblong. so that the arrester could drop the ring if it also landed on a spare wheel.

                  I respect you. I did not jump, thank God.
      2. andrewkor
        andrewkor 24 November 2017 06: 58 New
        +1
        You are right about the great losses, completely unjustified, from the German paratroopers. But the main task of the landing was to capture the airdromes, and by no means rocks. For the sake of air defense, there were only knives pistols during landing. And we chopped them and scored them. But I spoke about the extra-low altitude landing and this also happened! in order not to look “funny” you need to read more!
        1. parkello
          parkello 24 November 2017 15: 50 New
          +3
          What were the airfields in Crete then? one was just not far from Chania and there they went down on gliders ... how many of them flew in. and there were a lot of parachutists who immediately fell. they then had their weapons separately dropped on another dome, and the ultra-low heights for landing also played no role. when you fall, and your rifle and ammunition, grenades and other charms on another dome hovered on a tree ... and then run with a bayonet. in general, you continue to amuse the audience. and yet I read, but at the same time I understand where the truth is, and where the outright garbage.
  9. Politburo
    Politburo 23 November 2017 17: 17 New
    +1
    And as soon as he landed, he disengaged himself from the dome for a second and went to perform combat missions.

    Thing! We love Russians, arrange surprises behind enemy lines. 10 thousand such parachutes, this will be strength!
    We’ll definitely experience somewhere in a real combat situation! Wait gentlemen ..soldier
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 22 New
      +8
      10 thousand - this is about D 10, colleague! laughing
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 23 November 2017 17: 18 New
    0
    80 meters - it’s easier and safer to lower the rope and take turns ...
    From a helicopter, of course.
    1. san4es
      san4es 23 November 2017 17: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      80 meters - it’s easier and safer to lower the rope and take turns ...
      From a helicopter, of course.

      belay ... 80 meters is 26 floors ... you’ll erase through and through until you get down
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 23 November 2017 17: 33 New
        +3
        So, for example, you can. The band clings to the rope
        and then it is unwound from a helicopter.
        No friction. At least 100 m, if only the rope did not break.
        1. san4es
          san4es 23 November 2017 17: 45 New
          +6
          Quote: voyaka uh
          So, for example, you can. The band clings to the rope

          ... Yes, but speed is already lost and surprise + dangerous - they will shoot ...
          ... This is an escape method (eskape)
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 23 November 2017 18: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: san4es
            This is a way to evacuate.

            The Americans generally had a creepy evacuation system, "Skyhook"
            They were fastened in a group on a rope, sat "exactly on the ass" (s), the other end of the rope to a balloon. A flying plane grabbed the cable and pulled the group with a winch


            It seems like it is still in service
            1. san4es
              san4es 23 November 2017 18: 19 New
              +6
              Quote: Spade
              "Skyhook"
              Fastened by a group on a rope,
              soldier

        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 32 New
          +7
          The young man is pale with his eyes burning, on the CE of the theater of military operations, if you fly to the district, then they will bury you like that - along with the rope and helicopter. There, if from a turntable, then quickly, quickly, from 2-3 meters, on the go. Although taught, of course, different options. But not that laughing
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 23 November 2017 20: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Doliva63
            The young man is pale with his eyes burning, on the CE of the theater of military operations, if you fly to the district, then they will bury you like that - along with the rope and helicopter. There, if from a turntable, then quickly, quickly, from 2-3 meters, on the go. Although taught, of course, different options. But not so laughing

            +100500 frantically good drinks
        3. Politburo
          Politburo 23 November 2017 19: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          So, for example, you can. The band clings to the rope
          and then it is unwound from a helicopter.
          No friction. At least 100 m, if only the rope did not break.

          This is all like an urgent evacuation .. (pictured) With bags and suitcases! laughing laughing
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 23 November 2017 20: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      0 meters - it’s easier and safer to lower the rope and take turns ...
      From a helicopter, of course.

      What if the wind? Yes, and erase your hands to the shoulders wassat
  11. Bort radist
    Bort radist 23 November 2017 17: 24 New
    +2
    From such a height, the pilot and navigator have no less problems, and maybe even more than paratroopers. There are no problems with the helicopter, but keep the IL-76 at that height ......
    1. zivXP
      zivXP 23 November 2017 23: 11 New
      +1
      You can’t open the dome at this speed, for this it is extinguished for several seconds by the stabilizer.
  12. starpur
    starpur 23 November 2017 17: 57 New
    +4
    On the video - Kirzhach. base of NIIPTiPS. Such jumps are not uncommon there. He himself repeatedly observed the "small earth", a height of 150 m. Personally, he jumped only the standard 800, on a rope and on a stub. What is shown is the same rope, only the dome is not in the chamber, but in a kind of cover, very similar to the "oak", D1-5u, D1-8s6. There is no knapsack, the response time is reduced. All this is wonderful. One question remains, or rather several. How to hide the noise of the engine of the turntable, which should reset the landing? Is there a landing site on the capture facility? With such a jump, there is no time to use weapons in the air. Time to remove the suspension and manufacture? Is the game worth the candle? Or are the show-offs indestructible?
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 23 November 2017 19: 36 New
      +8
      Quote: starpur
      very similar to the "oak", D1-5u, D1-8s6.

      Colleague, it’s annoying to hear when 5u is placed on a par with the “oak”. On it at one time sports standards passed, and you - "oak". At least unfair.
      However, I agree that the idea is controversial. Although, perhaps, there are tactical developments that are unknown to us.
      1. starpur
        starpur 23 November 2017 20: 56 New
        +2
        Good evening! I apologize for the slang, on the parachute forums, any round equipment is called "oaks" ... Just 20 years ago, jumping for the first time from D1-5u, I heard just that. And on the topic: a satchel is excluded from the system. And the cover has a red color, obviously percale, like D1-8 ser.6.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 23 November 2017 22: 36 New
          +6
          "exactly D1-8 ser.6."
          I rated the joke laughing drinks
          I started this affair a long time ago, but is UT 15 really an oak tree too? belay
          And if the case, then the military has its own point of view on the use of certain domes, not always reasonable, but always rational. In your own way laughing
        2. zivXP
          zivXP 23 November 2017 23: 07 New
          +1
          Mm, but the spare and rescue, too, because there is a round shape.
          Oaks because in the name D. wink
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 24 November 2017 21: 13 New
            +6
            It is possible that from the letter D. But we had “oaks” exclusively D 1 - 8, which have “stockings” on the slings.
  13. Bort radist
    Bort radist 23 November 2017 19: 10 New
    +1
    In the distant seventies, we threw, though small landing groups of 2-3 people from 250 and 150 meters. There were night jumps from such heights. Parachutes were sports. (Baltic. AN-12) So there is experience and achievements.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 23 November 2017 22: 44 New
      +8
      150 m. - this is D1-5U for forced disclosure, there were no others.
    2. zivXP
      zivXP 23 November 2017 23: 01 New
      +2
      In sporting parachutes, only the 100-meter stretchers alone will take away heights. IMHO, but the AN-12 has a high speed to throw from 150 meters. Do not repay its dome. An-2 is another matter.
  14. brr1
    brr1 23 November 2017 20: 28 New
    +1
    From heaven to earth in battle.
  15. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 23 November 2017 21: 53 New
    0
    Tekhnodinamika holding, part of Rostec, conducts factory tests of the Sturm parachute for ultra-low heights. It is planned that the tests will be completed in the first half of 2018.

    Useful for evacuation from skyscrapers.

    We think that it will be in demand for landing on objects after practicing weapons.

    This is for an emergency.
  16. zivXP
    zivXP 23 November 2017 22: 55 New
    +2
    D-1-5-y has a minimum opening height of 100 m. And this is the most reliable dome, the main thing is that there are no spins. In terms of spins, they are easy to make. But at D-1-5, the dome area is certainly huge. If you make the area smaller, then the opening time will decrease, but the landing speed will increase. Judging by the size of the knapsack, it may be so.
    I think that UT-15 would easily fit into 80 meters for disclosure, if it could be laid on a rope.
  17. Yoshi
    Yoshi 24 November 2017 01: 07 New
    0
    Discussed with an old friend in the flying club. He said that in addition to the "star": Theodosius - the full cycle (in Ukraine it was for sure) and Aeros - the full cycle. Sew for the whole world and put horseradish on a coup and assaults ...
    80 m. I do not know, but the bazers have been jumping for a long time and a lot. Although the military human system is another matter.
    Every year I jumped from 120 m from the AN-2 to the D-1-5s6 and T4-4MP in the last century ...
    1. corporal
      corporal 24 November 2017 03: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Yoshi
      Every year I jumped from 120 m from the AN-2 to the D-1-5s6 and T4-4MP in the last century ...

      This is where such liberties were? So that from 120?
      1. 0389db
        0389db 24 November 2017 12: 16 New
        +1
        With us, all athletes periodically jumped from 100 meters, at the very pieces there were 15 such jumps, D-1-5-U on a rope, the AN-2 plane, without slowing down at full speed, the dome opens in a "horizontal" flight. In principle, there is nothing beyond natural, if the weather and the landing area are good, then with an oak tree you can jump from 70 meters.
        1. corporal
          corporal 26 November 2017 16: 31 New
          0
          Quote: 0389db
          from 100 meters, at the very pieces of 15 such jumps, D-1-5-U

          200 meters limit for DOSAAF for D-1-5-y! If we are talking about athletes.
  18. ver_
    ver_ 24 November 2017 12: 46 New
    0
    Quote: andrewkor
    I jumped from the An-2 about 30 years ago, in my opinion, from 60 meters without reserves, even there was a video.
    The Nazis in WWII had a parachute deployment system immediately after separation from the side, a bag from the parachute was pulled off by a halyard and the dome was immediately released. They even drove to Crete from 75m.

    ... miscalculations, now there is a parachute - the shuttlecock is used very successfully when evacuating from houses .. You sit on the windowsill of the open window, putting on * a knapsack * - pulling on a * rope * - the squib fires and the knapsack turned into a * shuttlecock * - pulls out a person with outskirts and fall back to the ground ...
  19. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 15: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: zivXP
    You can’t open the dome at this speed, for this it is extinguished for several seconds by the stabilizer.

    The stabilizer basically prevents rotation, but it is also a stabilizer, not a brake one. Speed ​​is already extinguished. Some paratroopers have a fifth point wider than the stabilizer. smile
  20. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 15: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Stroporez
    One hundred pounds, and even better immediately “abruptly” on board and pulling out for Easter


    to jump from eighty meters, you need to pull 150-200 commercials. twice

    Before and after drinks
    1. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 24 November 2017 16: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Quote: Maki Avellevich
      Quote: Stroporez
      One hundred pounds, and even better immediately “abruptly” on board and pulling out for Easter


      to jump from eighty meters, you need to pull 150-200 commercials. twice

      Before and after drinks

      The main thing is AFTER.
  21. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 15: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
    Quote: Doliva63
    I don’t know about the ballast, but without a spare tire they won’t let go stupidly laughing

    Yes, I understand the rules. But here to load overweight, to hamper the movement, and in conditions when the decision to use the reserve will come on the ground ....

    With our regiment there was a company of OKDO, the ensign of jumps served there, he had a sky-high amount. Once he jumped at night one meter with 200, and maybe lower. I went into the truck to see. He had a chip; he hitched a hitch for fasteners in the floor and threw it over his shoulder. I go out the hatches have already begun to open. He stands without reserve. He brought a finger to his lips, supposedly quieter, winked and went. I left the spare tire in the parachute bag on the seat. Arrived in the morning, at GAZ-66, smiling, took the spare tire.
  22. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 15: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Doliva63
    150 m. - this is D1-5U for forced disclosure, there were no others.

    You know better, I did not delve into the subtleties of the radio operator. Twice a year is obliged, more at will.
  23. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 15: 49 New
    0
    Quote: zivXP
    In sporting parachutes, only the 100-meter stretchers alone will take away heights. IMHO, but the AN-12 has a high speed to throw from 150 meters. Do not repay its dome. An-2 is another matter.

    I won’t argue about which system the parachute was, but they threw it with the AN-12. Panevezys military unit 06965.
  24. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2017 18: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
    Quote: Bort Radist
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Stroporez
    One hundred pounds, and even better immediately “abruptly” on board and pulling out for Easter


    to jump from eighty meters, you need to pull 150-200 commercials. twice

    Before and after drinks

    The main thing is AFTER.

    To be honest - these are cliches. Once, when this "after" ended. The whole crew smoked. It was two in the morning. I fell into the grass, looked into the sky, listened to how the frogs yelled, the nightingales sang, and enjoyed every breath of the air infused on the lilies of the valley. Then they would offer 50 grams, probably refused b. )))