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In Ukraine, proposed to abolish the middle name

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Ukrainian edition "Accents" публикует материал, в котором сообщает об очередной «евроинтеграционной» украинской инициативе. В материале говорится, что инициативная группа предлагает «дистанцироваться» от России и «приблизиться» к Европе с помощью отмены на Украине отчества. При этом издание ссылается на кандидата historical наук Украины Игоря Черного, который называет отчество рудиментом, пережитком.


From the statement of the initiators of the "reform":
We have disowned Russian influence, we are moving to Europe, even in Kazakhstan we introduce a Latin alphabet in order to distance ourselves from rashka etc. Why are these Vasilevich, Ivanovich, Khristoforovich? Why not Pan Igor, or Pan Bogdan, or Mrs. Katerina? Beautiful, modern, timely!


It is stated that citizens of Europe and North America do without a middle name. It is also noted that the middle name "is still not used in databases."

In Ukraine, proposed to abolish the middle name


The article says that if Ukraine chose the European way, then it should gradually move to the social norms that are accepted in the countries of Europe.

It seems that this is another attempt to abandon not only their history, but even their fathers - to completely tear the current generation of Ukrainians from their kindred ties, traditions, Slavic culture.
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  1. Sergey53
    Sergey53 23 November 2017 12: 29 New
    +7
    Well, this is generally cool inadequate.
    1. bagr69
      bagr69 23 November 2017 12: 31 New
      +1
      Poroshenko son Alekseev ...
      Ears already froze everything to evil grandmother ...
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 23 November 2017 12: 35 New
        22
        But do not get burned to people with middle names:
        Misevich, Abramovich, Avraamovich and so on and so forth!
        Perhaps they came up with ...
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 23 November 2017 12: 56 New
          +9
          Quote: Anarchist
          Perhaps they came up with ...

          this is not the main thing - I really want to become a pan
          Pan Igor, or Pan Bogdan, or Mrs. Katerina? Beautiful, modern, timely!
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder 23 November 2017 14: 11 New
            +4
            Yes, have fun! Everything is torn in the little ladies, but, as they say, with a pig’s snout, but in a high rank! "The pig dreamed of a nightingale singing ..."
            1. Hoc vince
              Hoc vince 24 November 2017 02: 09 New
              +7
              “People who had the right to add the name of the father to their name - middle name, were called eminent. At first such people were the king and the boyars. The importance of patronymic as a sign of great respect for the merits of a person is evidenced by the fact that for the first time the patronymic, not the boyar, but the merchant Stroganov, was allowed to be called in 1610 specially by the royal decree for great merits in protecting the fatherland. This goes along with the struggle against the national identity of a person, the enemy’s desire to solve an important strategic task - to lower a person to a biological level. Indeed, what middle name or nationality can beef cattle? She can have a breed at best. "
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 23 November 2017 13: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Anarchist
          But do not get burned to people with middle names:
          Misevich, Abramovich, Avraamovich and so on and so forth!
          Perhaps they came up with ...

          Yes, you brost !!!)))
          Why integrate so lightly into the values ​​of Europe, why pan and lady, why dad mom?
          It’s necessary to immediately remove all gender differences and make the appeal pan and dad and mom to appeal “parent-1 and parent-2”, and let them play the lottery to whom the number will get, also grandparents pan 1.2 pan 1.1 pan 1.3 pan 1.4
          And may Shastya come to them.
        3. afrikanez
          afrikanez 23 November 2017 15: 52 New
          0
          To "sleep" enough on the face to look carefully. lol You can change the middle name but the face is unlikely. (No surgery will help)
      2. Vend
        Vend 23 November 2017 13: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: bagr69
        Poroshenko son Alekseev ...
        Ears already froze everything to evil grandmother ...

        It is necessary to immediately cancel the names and surnames, leave only serial numbers.
      3. demo
        demo 23 November 2017 14: 15 New
        +1
        Poroshenko is the jackal’s son and grandson of a hyena.
        What will be his middle name?
      4. andrewkor
        andrewkor 23 November 2017 17: 50 New
        +1
        “Volka ibn Alyosha” - I remember, I remember!
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 23 November 2017 12: 38 New
      +4
      so generally prohibit names, as if one name at all
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 23 November 2017 13: 31 New
      13
      Truly, Ivana’s father who doesn’t remember. request
    4. Gardamir
      Gardamir 23 November 2017 13: 31 New
      0
      Well, this is generally cool inadequate.
      And what? You should only hum, in Russia canceled without decrees.
    5. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 23 November 2017 14: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey53
      Well, this is generally cool inadequate.

      No, what’s wrong? They do without honor and conscience, but what is patronymic? Spit and grind!
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 16 New
        +1
        It’s just that the current Ukrainian authorities want not only to be addressed to them by mother! lol
  2. St Petrov
    St Petrov 23 November 2017 12: 29 New
    +4
    flagged a mistake in "mark"

    They do everything right. Let them go to Europe further. They cannot be cured anymore. It is necessary to pick up those who are not yet infected and resettle in Russian. There is enough land.
    1. 100502
      100502 23 November 2017 12: 38 New
      +1
      I don’t need these characters
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 November 2017 12: 46 New
      +2
      They already don’t remember their surnames and in general where they came from .. A fair wind, Ivana don’t remember kinship ..
      Quote: c-Petrov
      flagged a mistake in "mark"

      They do everything right. Let them go to Europe further. They cannot be cured anymore. It is necessary to pick up those who are not yet infected and resettle in Russian. There is enough land.
    3. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 23 November 2017 13: 19 New
      0
      And, what to give the Russian land to this not Russia? You are generous!
    4. Kerensky
      Kerensky 23 November 2017 13: 26 New
      0
      It is necessary to pick up those who are not yet infected and resettle in Russian. There is enough land.

      I have two reliable places, one on Vagankovsky, one on Novodevichy. (WITH)
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 23 November 2017 13: 30 New
        0
        Muschins (s), we will soon have a demographic failure caused by objective reasons and something needs to be done. And people live less than in the Urals than in Moscow
    5. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 12 New
      +1
      Well, just "mark" - they certainly will not forget! laughing As the saying goes, a mind to drink is not a field to go over! laughing
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 November 2017 12: 31 New
    +5
    To integrate, so to integrate - cancel another gender, or enter a third besides husband., Wives. Probably after this, Europe will become even closer and now, there and there ... But for some reason the Europeans do not want to see Ukraine in their "friendly" family.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 23 November 2017 12: 36 New
      +7
      The further the 404th breaks away from Russia, the longer the return road will be.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 23 November 2017 12: 40 New
        +1
        And we will need it without a middle name, with an incomprehensible gender and a fool in my head?
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 23 November 2017 12: 47 New
          +5
          This is another question, but I have no doubt that they will crawl back.
          1. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov 23 November 2017 13: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: Jedi
            This is another question, but I have no doubt that they will crawl back.

            It often happens that there is no turning back. If the brains moved to one side, then this is kirdyk. At my good friend, a mother-in-law from Western Ukraine arrives in November during the heating season. There he writes a statement about the shutdown, so that they do not count unbearable tariffs, and goes to Russia. Here, while living among Muscovites, fleeing the terrible Ukrainian communal apartment, he curses Muscovites with the last words. She has been doing this for several years. Will her brains fall into place? I think no. She's so comfortable. It is convenient to take the help of Muscovites, blaming Muscovites for all their troubles.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 23 November 2017 13: 14 New
              +2
              It’s understandable, but aren’t they all such pan-legged?
        2. Going
          Going 23 November 2017 12: 47 New
          +7
          Quote: Jedi
          The further the 404th breaks away from Russia, the longer the return road will be.


          Back will be a long half.
      2. novel66
        novel66 23 November 2017 12: 41 New
        +6
        not all amputations take root back
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 23 November 2017 12: 47 New
          11
          Quote: novel xnumx
          not all amputations take root back

          This is not amputated, it atrophied itself as unnecessary ...
          Ukraine - an appendix for Russia! We carry it in ourselves until it begins to Rot ... But each time it grows again, like the liver of Prometheus ... And with the eagle a good analogy ...
      3. 210ox
        210ox 23 November 2017 12: 47 New
        +2
        Maksim hi They won’t have a return trip.
        Quote: Jedi
        The further the 404th breaks away from Russia, the longer the return road will be.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 23 November 2017 12: 52 New
          +3
          Dmitry, welcome! hi
          Quote: 210ox
          They won’t have a return trip.

          Entirely - it may well be not. But in the form of fragmented principalities - they will certainly crawl.
      4. pvv113
        pvv113 23 November 2017 12: 49 New
        +7
        Max, and really - why do the lackeys a middle name? Will there be a pan of his laborer in his patronymic dignity? It’s also easier: bring Petka, give Vanka!
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 23 November 2017 12: 53 New
          +7
          Then let the names be canceled, the slaves on the collar usually write the name and to whom it belongs. negative
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 23 November 2017 12: 54 New
            12
            Everyone will have one name on the collar - Sam! So better numbers ...
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 23 November 2017 12: 59 New
              +4
              Quote: Anarchist
              So better numbers ...

              It already smells like a concentration camp ... belay
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 23 November 2017 13: 02 New
                12
                This is the camp! And the concepts there are thieves! - Pahan and his entourage are pressing ...
            2. pvv113
              pvv113 23 November 2017 13: 51 New
              +3
              There will also be a problem with the numbers - as soon as the number exceeds the number of fingers on the hands, complaints will begin wink
  4. Star
    Star 23 November 2017 12: 31 New
    +4
    In the kit, they would offer to walk along the graves of their fathers with a bulldozer.
    Pipezzst ..... no words.
    1. Going
      Going 23 November 2017 12: 48 New
      +8
      In fact, they do so, monuments, now patronymic ...
      1. Azim77
        Azim77 23 November 2017 13: 31 New
        +1
        They are so soon, not only without a middle name, but also withoutEhonors will remain ..
  5. edeligor
    edeligor 23 November 2017 12: 31 New
    11
    There are no words !!!
    1. thinker
      thinker 23 November 2017 15: 19 New
      +3
      Let's remember - the poem is called "The So-called Galician Elite" written on October 23, 2003. Author Elena Fominichna Lavrentieva. hi
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 24 November 2017 17: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: thinker
        Author Elena Fominichna Lavrentieva.

        I am not a fan of poetry. The picture from the Internet, the rules given are not me, the main words are correct and to the point. I could even express myself, but I have only the wrong Russian on this issue.
  6. Viktorfi
    Viktorfi 23 November 2017 12: 35 New
    +2
    In principle, the middle name really does not make sense to use. We also have no middle name. The passport contains the names of the parents. Although, it seems, this is no longer in the new biometric passports.
    1. novel66
      novel66 23 November 2017 12: 42 New
      +7
      a matter of tradition, it’s worthless to tear oneself from the roots
      1. Viktorfi
        Viktorfi 23 November 2017 14: 16 New
        0
        Quote: novel xnumx
        a matter of tradition, it’s worthless to tear oneself from the roots


        What's the connection? Middle name so strongly tied to the roots?
        1. novel66
          novel66 23 November 2017 14: 37 New
          10
          Well, I don’t know. How to explain Russian traditions to a Jew. let's be better each with his
    2. faridg7
      faridg7 23 November 2017 12: 44 New
      19
      Quote: Viktorfi
      In principle, the middle name really does not make sense to use. We also have no middle name. The passport contains the names of the parents. Although, it seems, this is no longer in the new biometric passports.

      In principle, some countries did not make sense to create at all, now they are climbing to the Slavs with advice.
      1. Viktorfi
        Viktorfi 23 November 2017 14: 14 New
        0
        Quote: faridg7
        In principle, some countries did not make sense to create at all, now they are climbing to the Slavs with tips


        Well, the Slavs who can’t get along together, maybe it’s worth taking advice from a representative of a people who have long existed, and who lived where Israel is now, at a time when there was no Russian people, and Eastern Slavs too wink
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 23 November 2017 14: 26 New
          +5
          It
          Quote: Viktorfi
          a people that has long existed, and who lived where Israel is now, at a time when the Russian people did not exist at all, and the Eastern Slavs too wink
          your myths. At that time when you were driven around the desert in circles, in Russia history has been considered for millennia. Under Ivan 4 in Russia, the chronology of 7000 has exceeded, so no need for Lala. Thanks to such advisers, what happens is happening.
          1. Viktorfi
            Viktorfi 23 November 2017 14: 54 New
            0
            Quote: faridg7
            your myths. At that time when you were driven around the desert in circles, in Russia history has been considered for millennia. Under Ivan 4 in Russia, the chronology of 7000 has exceeded


            laughing laughing
            1. faridg7
              faridg7 23 November 2017 15: 01 New
              +2
              Well, something like this.
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 23 November 2017 13: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Viktorfi
      In principle, the middle name really does not make sense to use. We also have no middle name. The passport contains the names of the parents. Although, it seems, this is no longer in the new biometric passports.

      In the 90s, it became fashionable in Kyrgyzstan to write Murat ulu Kanybek or Kanybek kyzy Aisulu in passports ... and now many again write, such as Timur Zhumabaevich Sadyrov.
      There are many Kanybekovs as well as Ivanovs, but here immediately they belong to the family, the family and, if necessary, the family is visible.
      PS.
      Families of at least the Rhodschilds, even the Bushs, stand firmly behind their kinship and surnames, and the rest of the Smiths and stuff, pasture.
      In Russia, the revolution mixed everyone, now you can meet the tractor driver Knyazev and the philanthropist Kuznetsov.
      1. Viktorfi
        Viktorfi 23 November 2017 14: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Scoun
        Families of at least the Rhodschilds, even the Bushs, stand firmly behind their kinship and surnames, and the rest of the Smiths and stuff, pasture.


        Of course, but it’s not necessary to preserve the middle name, which comes from the name of the father.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 23 November 2017 15: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Viktorfi
          Quote: Scoun
          Families of at least the Rhodschilds, even the Bushs, stand firmly behind their kinship and surnames, and the rest of the Smiths and stuff, pasture.


          Of course, but it’s not necessary to preserve the middle name, which comes from the name of the father.

          Do you have many acquaintances with the surname Rothschild, Dupont, or Rothenberg? )))
        2. not main
          not main 23 November 2017 21: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Viktorfi
          Quote: Scoun
          Families of at least the Rhodschilds, even the Bushs, stand firmly behind their kinship and surnames, and the rest of the Smiths and stuff, pasture.


          Of course, but it’s not necessary to preserve the middle name, which comes from the name of the father.

          It may not be necessary for you, but it is obligatory for us! This is the continuity of generations! Although to whom I explain? You have a maternal relationship.
  7. Yoshi
    Yoshi 23 November 2017 12: 35 New
    +7
    It is customary to apply for patronymic there. The name could be omitted. For example: Ivanovich, come to us ...

    And among the Kozaks, a person was named after the first grandson after the birth of the first grandson.

    A whim is some kind, not an idea ...
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 24 New
      +1
      Well I do not know. Watching what Cossacks. If we take the one who founded Kharkov, all that is known about him is that it was a Cossack Kharyok. Well, that is, not at all a middle name, first and last name, but a nickname. Expressed in modern language - callsign. smile Which, in principle, is understandable: for people who serve, it is a necessity.
      1. Yoshi
        Yoshi 23 November 2017 19: 10 New
        0
        The tradition was this:
        Genus Mandryk (last name)
        Nickname (as they call), well, for example, Chernous. and so before the birth of the first son
        how a son was born - they call Alexey by name and can add Chernous
        as a son was born to his first son (that is, a grandson), then middle name is added and can be said by Alexey Petrovich, or Petrovich in his own way. can specify Chernous or just Mandrykin ...
        Something like this.
        He was an eyewitness in childhood as a man came with a grandson in his arms to a neighbor, and his wife went out on the porch and saw the baby in her arms, asking: "Is it yours?" When she learned that he was, she called her husband and said: "Mikhalych came. Take a look with whom ..." Her husband asks from the house: "What is Mykhalych?" skzal only with respectful intonation: "Mikhalych!"
        Do I still don’t know so ... I have not been there for a long time.
  8. ded100
    ded100 23 November 2017 12: 35 New
    +4
    It is time to abolish Ukraine to tear apart Europeans and ladlets!
  9. solzh
    solzh 23 November 2017 12: 36 New
    +3
    Madhouse. I have nothing more to say.
    1. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 23 November 2017 20: 04 New
      +5
      I dare say: In a madhouse, however, they treat it ... Here - alas, no ... Or they don’t want to .. And maybe there’s nothing to treat.
  10. Smog
    Smog 23 November 2017 12: 37 New
    +3
    And what - some pans will be in \ in Ukraine? . And where are the slaves?
    Ahhhh ..., got it !!! While in \ ukraine- pan, but as in the European Union-immediately serf. That's right, why do the lackeys have a middle name. You can also cancel the name. The serf of Herr Hans No. 1, the serf of Herr Hans No. 2 ...., but what sounds.
    And he returned from earnings to the hut - pan of Herr Hans No. 1, and so on ....
    1. novel66
      novel66 23 November 2017 12: 44 New
      +7
      It was already: "Pan Ataman Gritian Tauride"
      1. Smog
        Smog 23 November 2017 12: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Pan Ataman Gritian Tauride "

        Yeah! Each kuren has three atamans.
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 23 November 2017 13: 03 New
          +9
          Quote: Smog
          Yeah! Each kuren has three atamans.

          maybe more
  11. weksha50
    weksha50 23 November 2017 12: 38 New
    +5
    "the initiative group proposes to" distance "from Russia and" get closer "to Europe by canceling the patronymic in Ukraine".

    Ivanes who do not remember kinship ... What is there - European integration? Write immediately in birth certificates and passports in the column "nationality": "Citizen of the world" ... laughing

    PS And in Russian - homeless ... laughing
    1. novel66
      novel66 23 November 2017 12: 44 New
      +6
      or rootless cosmopolitan lol
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 29 New
      +2
      It is better for them to write immediately in the passports: "initiative fool." laughing For, as they say, "a fool is not so terrible as a fool with an initiative, and especially a legislative one!"
  12. Livonetc
    Livonetc 23 November 2017 12: 42 New
    +4
    Logical.
    They do not honor the memory of grandfathers.
    They do not need a middle name.
    Live from jump to jump.
    They don’t need a memory either.
    Otherwise they will suddenly realize that they are full and very upset.
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 23 November 2017 12: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: bagr69
    Poroshenko son Alekseev ...
    Ears already froze everything to evil grandmother ...

    No, it's in Moskalsky. And ukrov will be purely in krainski, for example, Bogdashka Krivoy, Pavlo Kosoy, etc.
    1. Going
      Going 23 November 2017 12: 49 New
      +9
      They will pass to nicknames and the name will be canceled.
  14. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 23 November 2017 12: 48 New
    +3
    What an interesting thing! Only before tearing off a middle name, it is necessary to uproot names first! Will be - Bill Nedonoshenko, Jack Mayboroda, Smith Porosyuk, Steve Skovoroda. Freshly and unusually))) And most importantly, they immediately begin to live full, warm and in abundance.
  15. Miron64
    Miron64 23 November 2017 12: 49 New
    +2
    SUGS chtol? :)
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 32 New
      +1
      Full SUGS. lol
  16. anjey
    anjey 23 November 2017 12: 51 New
    +1
    fell away from the Slavic roots and great ancestors ....
  17. shura7782
    shura7782 23 November 2017 13: 03 New
    +2
    As a result - appeal to YOU. Imagine how a young jerk “respects” the old man with this appeal.
    So you need it.
    Deserved !!!
  18. Black water
    Black water 23 November 2017 13: 10 New
    +4
    ... there is still a proposal to refuse .. it is more correct to prohibit the letters P and F ...... and still prohibit red and blue in the rainbow .... and still white, though it is not in the rainbow, but these are the details, justify how Something ....
  19. vanavatny
    vanavatny 23 November 2017 13: 12 New
    0
    that's right, well, to hell with me, that father was called Vladimir, and his father was Mikhail, and his father was Peter, and his father was Yegor ... Mrs. Katarina, how much are your services ...
  20. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 23 November 2017 13: 14 New
    +2
    Abandon patronymic - abandon father, abandon centuries-old traditions, way of life. Forgetting your ancestors is a state policy. This does not fit in my head.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 23 November 2017 13: 29 New
      0
      Abandon patronymic - abandon father
      how is the call of your father Nikolai the Fatherlessness of Fedorov?
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 36 New
        +3
        In Ukraine, a child born without a father is called a bastard. It turns out that now everything in it is Baystryukovich: Petro Baystryukovich, Miho Baystryukovich, Shkiryak Baystryukovich ... laughing
      2. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 24 November 2017 14: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Abandon patronymic - abandon father
        how is the call of your father Nikolai the Fatherlessness of Fedorov?

        And what is the sound of your father's nameless namelessness without a surname?
  21. Eurodav
    Eurodav 23 November 2017 13: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: Anarchist
    But do not get burned to people with middle names:
    Misevich, Abramovich, Avraamovich and so on and so forth!
    Perhaps they came up with ...

    Of course they ... The beginning was laid with us when the count-nationality was removed! They really want to be Jews, but that no one knew !!! Their distinguishing feature ... Soon, only in appearance we will calculate them!
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 23 November 2017 16: 02 New
      0
      The beginning was laid with us when the count-nationality was removed!

      We do not indicate either nationality or patronymic anywhere. This is not interesting to anyone. Why spoil ink and paper?
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 23 November 2017 21: 33 New
        +1
        [[/ quote]
        ........ Why spoil ink and paper? [/quote]
        you are already excusable. you are already without a clan, without a tribe. Yes, and use ink.
        1. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 24 November 2017 11: 47 New
          0
          What does it have to do without a clan, without a tribe? The thing is that nobody is interested in the name of the father. In office work, this information is useless. If useless, then why indicate?
          Over time, in Russia it will be the same. You have to be more practical.
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 24 November 2017 14: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Alex Justice
            .... The thing is that nobody is interested in the name of the father.

            Your name is not interesting either. Then for the chief enough surname.
            Quote: Alex Justice
            ... In office work, this information is useless.

            Here, a very controversial statement. Time is a pity to prove the opposite.
            Quote: Alex Justice
            ....... Over time, in Russia it will be the same. You have to be more practical.

            More practical in digital or electronic code? It is already there.
            ...........................
            I worked in one organization where young leaders tried to contact me by name (a sort of modern trend of the time, well, to keep up with enlightened Europe). I had to immediately stop this h..nyu. No objection was received.
            ..........................
            So, now you have your own marriage, and we have our own. And thank God!
      2. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 24 November 2017 14: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Alex Justice
        The beginning was laid with us when the count-nationality was removed!

        We do not indicate either nationality or patronymic anywhere. This is not interesting to anyone. Why spoil ink and paper?

        You don’t have much Christianity at all. You have your own culture, your own traditions. You men love each other - this is normal. We are different. It is customary for us to use middle names. And banderlogs want to struggle to abolish this centuries-old tradition. And the point here is not at all rationality. They have the task of tearing our people from their roots and clearing their memory. You will not succeed in the end.
        1. shura7782
          shura7782 25 November 2017 08: 41 New
          +1
          I subscribe to your every word.
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  23. Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 November 2017 13: 27 New
    0
    In Ukraine, proposed to abolish the middle name
    And what? At least suggested. In Russia, rulers have long ceased to apply for a middle name. Just as the volunteer stopped talking, they are Americanizing us without any orders.
  24. Black water
    Black water 23 November 2017 13: 39 New
    +1
    ... so why the Ukrainian alphabet is not yet in Latin letters !!! .... come off so completely !!!!
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 40 New
      +2
      So they try, but apparently decided to wait: until Europe switches to Arabic! laughing
  25. BAI
    BAI 23 November 2017 13: 53 New
    +1
    In my opinion, this is somehow connected with the "Ivans who do not remember kinship." Even fathers are trying to forget.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 November 2017 15: 37 New
      +1
      It has nothing to do with it, it just coincided with the policy of the State Department. lol
  26. private person
    private person 23 November 2017 13: 54 New
    0
    Well, just like in our 90s in Russia.
  27. Piramidon
    Piramidon 23 November 2017 14: 00 New
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    Well, that's right. Their beloved Pindo-Europeans are already moving from father and mother to "parent # 1" and "parent # 2"
    Xoxly, you stupidly fucked up !!! Pederasty is flourishing.
  28. Bronevick
    Bronevick 23 November 2017 14: 10 New
    +2
    People without a middle name and fatherland.
  29. sgr291158
    sgr291158 23 November 2017 14: 16 New
    +1
    Everything, just no more words. You can’t call it insanity. The country of the crazy.
  30. zivXP
    zivXP 23 November 2017 14: 17 New
    +1
    Yes, and the surname is also superfluous - just enter “one rattle” in the passport and everything is clear: Lech Kon from Vinnitsa. Although many have surnames and as klikuhi.
  31. Slam
    Slam 23 November 2017 14: 39 New
    0
    I have a more interesting topic - Russian Senator Kerimov was detained in Nice in the case of tax evasion. The Russian Foreign Ministry sent a note of protest to France over the detention of Senator Suleiman Kerimov: "He is an official and has immunity."
    So, with a high degree of probability, Kerimov has a NOT passport.
    From this (if I am right with the passport) it follows:
    1 He is an agent of the Senate in NATO.
    2 He is a NATO agent in the Senate.
    In one of these options there may be a threat to national security, and you are worried about “patronymic”. Yes, and in Ukraine. This is not a topic for VO.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 23 November 2017 22: 24 New
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      Quote: Slam
      I have a more interesting topic - Russian Senator Kerimov was detained in Nice in the case of tax evasion. The Russian Foreign Ministry sent a note of protest to France over the detention of Senator Suleiman Kerimov: "He is an official and has immunity."
      So, with a high degree of probability, Kerimov has a NOT passport.
      From this (if I am right with the passport) it follows:
      1 He is an agent of the Senate in NATO.
      2 He is a NATO agent in the Senate.
      In one of these options there may be a threat to national security, and you are worried about “patronymic”. Yes, and in Ukraine. This is not a topic for VO.

      No, not a topic. If he is their agent, then why the hell should they arrest him? And if so, then let him sit for prevention - there is nothing to hang around abroad. He will come, receive a senatorial mandate, and will be expelled to janitors, in case he was accidentally recruited. Why are we soaring about this senatorial boob, who also does not pay taxes to the treasury of others? And yet, yes, what do you think means a NATO passport?
  32. dzuar saubarag
    dzuar saubarag 23 November 2017 14: 51 New
    +2
    In English-speaking countries, everyone according to the "patchport" has a 2nd, 3rd ... name. The notorious Senator John McCain, for example, is fully referred to as John Sydney McCain III. So everything is all right with the patronymic, but how are you going to solve this issue in Ukraine?
  33. nivander
    nivander 23 November 2017 14: 54 New
    +2
    pan bogodashka, pan ostapok
  34. Romanenko
    Romanenko 23 November 2017 17: 15 New
    +1
    And rightly so, you do not need a middle name, even if they call each other by their mother, they also need to cancel the memory, although this has almost happened.
  35. Svarozhich
    Svarozhich 23 November 2017 17: 38 New
    +1
    They also need to allow same-sex families and the adoption of children, houses of tolerance for bestiality and legalize drugs, and then it’s just like their paratroopers legally lace panties and pink 12 cm high-heeled shoes ...
  36. DesToeR
    DesToeR 23 November 2017 19: 49 New
    +1
    Mon shermi, we are all here only Michelle - there is no Fatherland and no patronymics either.
  37. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 23 November 2017 19: 59 New
    +2
    Not to say that this is a land of principle, but middle name doesn’t really hurt for identification.
  38. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 23 November 2017 20: 00 New
    +5
    And so do not remember kinship .... So also paternity will be forgotten.
    However .. What difference does it make to them? .. And what difference does it make to us, what will they cancel there?
    In general, they can only leave nicknames for themselves .. What will change for all of humanity?
  39. APASUS
    APASUS 23 November 2017 20: 31 New
    0
    They really decided to take off from everything Slavic, although they certainly cannot explain that in Europe there is a middle name in the middle name.
    We decided not to remember the relationship, so it turns out?
  40. proletarian
    proletarian 23 November 2017 21: 52 New
    0
    Shaw I can say, DYBILA.
  41. Sektant
    Sektant 23 November 2017 21: 54 New
    0
    You can also cancel the last name. For the serf and the guest worker, this is useless, just call "Hey you!"
  42. Bare
    Bare 23 November 2017 22: 06 New
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    Pans with bare backs. ! That is livestock.
  43. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 23 November 2017 22: 46 New
    0
    They continue to replace history, language, culture, faith with the people, and now they want to quickly forget their fathers so that they do not remind them that all Ukrainians are essentially polished Russians ...
  44. Blackbeard
    Blackbeard 24 November 2017 00: 09 New
    0
    Everything to forget the past, they do EVERYTHING to forget. And as we know, one who does not know his past has no future fool
  45. pacific
    pacific 24 November 2017 00: 10 New
    +1
    Patronymic and Fatherland - two words in the spelling differ in just one letter.
    The root (and not only grammatical) and the meaning of both are the same - to continue the work of the fathers, to be faithful to him.
    What, in this case, is it proposed to refuse?
    PS Some peoples consider the maternal gender. Maybe this is where the "dog rummaged"?
  46. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 24 November 2017 01: 29 New
    0
    It would be better if motherhood was introduced.
  47. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 24 November 2017 01: 30 New
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    Well, people are poorly trained, albeit progressive. They do not know that in Iceland the law prohibits ... surnames! Only patronymic!