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Britain is thinking about reducing purchases F-35

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British Deputy Secretary of Defense Mark Poffley expressed support for the idea of ​​reducing purchases of the American fifth-generation multi-functional fighter F-35B Lightning II. The reason is the growing pressure on the country's military budget, reports the Financial Times.


Britain is thinking about reducing purchases F-35


This is the reality of the world we live in
 - said General Poffli, speaking to British parliamentarians.

So far, the United Kingdom is about to acquire 138 state-of-the-art aircraft. However, the country's Defense Ministry recently announced that the cost of the first batch of 48 fighters could rise from an initial £ 9,1 billion to £ 13 billion.

Among other reasons, the weakening of the British currency against the dollar is called.

In addition, the British media reported that the actual price of the most expensive military aircraft in stories much higher than stated due to "hidden costs".

The F-35s are to be the main striking force for the newest British aircraft carriers, one of which, Queen Elizabeth, is slated to enter service on 7 December. conveys "Look"
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  1. Sofa General
    Sofa General 22 November 2017 18: 56
    +8
    It seems to me that the "Englishwoman" knows something about these planes ...
    1. mad
      mad 22 November 2017 18: 59
      +5
      We decided to Su-57 (T-50 in the old) to wait;)
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 22 November 2017 19: 08
        +7
        Britain is thinking about reducing purchases F-35

        But Russia wondered how many Zircons it would take to flood the latest British aircraft carriers with these Fi-35s. lol
        1. opus
          opus 22 November 2017 22: 05
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          to flood the latest English aircraft carriers with these phi-xnumx

          Duc them all

          Scheduled by 2
          2 under construction

          Kuzya will train on them


          It is not known who will “build” faster
          Queen Elizabeth class carriers
          or
          rocket 3M-22 - SS-N-33
          can these "sink"?
          1. Kyzmich
            Kyzmich 23 November 2017 19: 42
            0
            confuses the autonomy figure of -292 days !?
            Such autonomy is not possessed by any ship in the world!
    2. Pirogov
      Pirogov 22 November 2017 19: 07
      +4
      Quote: Sofa General
      It seems to me that the "Englishwoman" knows something about these planes ...

      They want to get like Israel for free, for such a good one. ,,,, FU 35 sorry for the money.
      1. hrych
        hrych 22 November 2017 19: 35
        +2
        Quote: Pirogov
        They want to get Israel for free

        Oh no, Israel is an acceptor, paying off its owners like cannon fodder (kosher). Britain is a donor, second only to Germany (in particular in the EU, which is why Brexit is terrible). No one will knock off a cent to them, that's why the news is really curious. That's a freebie, and these vote in rubles (pounds) laughing
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 November 2017 19: 49
          0
          Quote: hrych
          Quote: Pirogov
          They want to get Israel for free

          Oh no, Israel is an acceptor, paying off its owners like cannon fodder (kosher). Britain is a donor, second only to Germany (in particular in the EU, which is why Brexit is terrible). No one will knock off a cent to them, that's why the news is really curious. That's a freebie, and these vote in rubles (pounds) laughing

          Israel didn’t take part in one conflict on the US side (or in a coalition with them), and declared the bombing of the Iraqi and Syrian reactors post-factum ...
          Election companies in the States are paid by sponsors, and most of the money in the USA is from Jews ...;)
          1. hrych
            hrych 22 November 2017 20: 01
            +6
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Election companies in the United States are paid by sponsors, and Jews have the most money in the USA ...

            Illusion. There are the Rothschilds - they are the managers of finances (hired accountants) of the British Crown, which themselves are the sixth numbers of the Gnostic backstage. The same Rockefellers - US industrialists and oilmen are richer and more influential. Trump their people and they won. Moreover, Rockefeller himself died, and a contract came to his contracts and his shirts. Also, woman Lisa immediately lost her mind, so Hilary flew with her urinal. In short, there was a bruise on the side wassat Now the financiers will be declared extreme and, according to tradition, will be beaten. am
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 23 November 2017 00: 36
              +1
              Quote: hrych
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Election companies in the United States are paid by sponsors, and Jews have the most money in the USA ...

              Illusion. There are the Rothschilds - they are the managers of finances (hired accountants) of the British Crown, which themselves are the sixth numbers of the Gnostic backstage. The same Rockefellers - US industrialists and oilmen are richer and more influential. Trump their people and they won. Moreover, Rockefeller himself died, and a contract came to his contracts and his shirts. Also, woman Lisa immediately lost her mind, so Hilary flew with her urinal. In short, there was a bruise on the side wassat Now the financiers will be declared extreme and, according to tradition, will be beaten. am

              Trump was not sponsored by the Rothschilds, and Edelson - not from that party at all, but Clintons, among others - Saban. Also Pts far from the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, King Croesus, Solomon and others))))
              1. hrych
                hrych 23 November 2017 10: 24
                +1
                Let's just say that there is a diaspora banking house tied to the old nobility (or rather, what is left of it), and you don’t need to know this, for it was Zakulis, the rogues from the merchant Welsh, who were planted on the British and Dutch throne. Without exception, all the banking houses of the diaspora - affiliated with the Rothschild house, front, etc. The nobility in the monarchies, in the republics subordinate to Zakulis of the black aristocracy, has real power, i.e. the apparatus of violence (army, police, etc.), there is ownership of land, means of production, subsoil and control of transport arteries. Here it is true wealth, and finance is only a servant of all this. Rockefeller is a representative of this class, who was born in the USA (their political leader) and with the growth of US power became a powerful part of Zakulis. There are still Sunni kingdoms, the CCP, and so on in detail. Croesus was described by Herodotus and confirmed by cuneiform, Solomon was not mentioned by reputable antique chroniclers, not confirmed by cuneiform, but is a character in a fairy tale epic, like Theseus, etc. Therefore, they cannot be compared. Financial operations, yes, they are used in politics, you can pay for a military adventure, hire mercenaries, other dirty tricks, but it gives you the command - the owner of money (or rather the real sector, money is the way to manage it), and not an accountant, even the main one. In this sense, the most lousy organization copies the structure of society. But with some fright, everyone decided (so they taught everyone to hide the true culprits of people's troubles) that bankers and financiers decide everything. For obvious reasons, if they feed them first to feed the wolves. Now the World Revolution is going on inside the Backstage, and it subjugated the World only with the fall of the USSR, and it has already collapsed. The party of American tycoons, having the most powerful apparatus of violence (while capturing it) in the world, decided to take power and take it. Therefore, for the first time, a struggle has unfolded for the previously decisive US government institutions. And finance is such a thing that their loss is strong and will not be noticed. In the Russian Federation and other countries, they used to switch to barter, coupons, direct government administration, etc. There will be no shorter end of the world if the world currency is canceled and bankers are upturned. What happened to the Templars in history. They were replaced by pawnshops, Swiss, etc. mold.
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 23 November 2017 05: 48
            +6
            In Syria, a nuclear reactor ??? fool Db.
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 19: 55
          +3
          Hi bro! hi drinks
          Quote: hrych
          That's a freebie, and these vote in rubles (pounds)

          The woman in the city fit to yell: "And we sho, not relatives ??? Oh, wei!". crying
          1. hrych
            hrych 22 November 2017 20: 11
            +4
            Hi Bratello !!! drinks
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            "And we sho, not relatives ??? Oh, wei!".

            The funny thing is that the main sponsors of the IRA were Americans for the Irish diaspora however. In general, Americans are British separatists wassat They’re dirty together, but they can’t stand each other am
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 20: 16
              +3
              Quote: hrych
              They’re dirty together, but they can’t stand each other

              That’s for sure, so let them measure the size of pipettes, and not heaps knock at us under the door, and even push each other with their elbows. Tired of ...
              1. hrych
                hrych 22 November 2017 20: 24
                +3
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                besides elbows pushing each other

                Stalin and Roosevelt ended the British Empire together, even though it collapsed later laughing Volodya and Donald will be thanked, too, someone will end laughing
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 20: 30
                  +5
                  But spoiling Russia is a long-standing passion and habit of Small Britain, which their degenerative offspring-mattresses were happy to adopt at the genetic level. So the woodpeckers are sawing compete with each other, about the reinforced concrete pole of Russia - only their chisels are blunt. lol
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 22 November 2017 20: 32
                    +3
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    sawdust woodpeckers

                    Woodpecker dies from concussion laughing
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 20: 35
                      +3
                      So it will be with both dolboklyuy, I knowingly wrote about a reinforced concrete pillar. wink
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 22 November 2017 20: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        I'm not in vain about the reinforced concrete pillar wrote

                        there is still a beak fracture wassat
                2. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 20: 45
                  +3
                  Quote: hrych
                  there is still a beak fracture

                  So it is - instead of a control shot. repeat
                3. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 23 November 2017 10: 24
                  0
                  Well, the Soviet Empire briefly survived the British. smile
                  The 20th century buried all empires.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 23 November 2017 10: 40
                    +1
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Well, the Soviet Empire briefly survived the British.
                    The 20th century buried all empires.

                    New ones appeared on the ruins in the form of the USA, EU, RF and PRC. The United States continues to occupy Japan, smaller than Germany, but 1000 bases gives them Imperial status. The Russian Federation took away most of the territory of the USSR, has the most powerful strategic nuclear weapons, and imperial policy. The EU is understandable. With the help of gifts from the USSR, China seized Uyghuria and Machzhuria, captured Tibet itself, pursues an expansionist policy, and builds foreign bases. Those. there was a transformation of empires, the USSR divided the RF and the EU territorially (taking into account the countries of the Warsaw Pact) There is LDNR, there is Transnistria, there is Abkhazia and Ossetia, Crimea is a separate issue, Armenia has actually entered the Empire and Belarus will not go anywhere.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 23 November 2017 12: 17
                      0
                      What a strange approach?
                      If it occurs to Israel to build several
                      remote military bases, then it will turn into an empire? belay
    3. Maz
      Maz 22 November 2017 22: 52
      0
      Those who do not take - to Israel
  2. System
    System 22 November 2017 18: 56
    +2
    And they’re doing right, what kind of savings ... Why do they need them? If there is a mess, these expensive toys will not save the Anglo-Saxons, but they will destroy them!
    1. destination
      destination 22 November 2017 19: 00
      +2
      They do the right thing that they save, their Big Brother will save, and mainland Europe will help, although they are not in the EU, they will not go anywhere.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 23 November 2017 00: 19
        0
        How will mainland Europe help them?
      2. MadCat
        MadCat 23 November 2017 03: 18
        +1
        Quote: destination
        They do the right thing that they save, their Big Brother will save, and mainland Europe will help, although they are not in the EU, they will not go anywhere.

        Why save them? They have a nuclear triad for this, they themselves will "save" anyone they want if they force them.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 November 2017 10: 47
          0
          Quote: MadCat
          Why save them? They have a nuclear triad for this.

          ??? What is a triad? The British - only SSBN, everything else was disbanded in 1998
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 November 2017 22: 16
      +6
      Quote: Sistema
      And they’re doing right, what kind of savings ... Why do they need them? If there is a mess, these expensive toys will not save the Anglo-Saxons, but they will destroy them!

      Golden words, it’s a pity that Amer’s lackeys are not able to comprehend this
      1. Going
        Going 22 November 2017 22: 45
        +8
        They are not supposed to think, they should only pay and work.
  3. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 57
    +9
    For the time being, the United Kingdom is going to purchase the newest 138 aircraft. Recently, however, the defense ministry of the country said that the cost of the first batch of 48 fighters could increase from the initial 9,1 billion pounds sterling to 13 billion
    it’s not clear - the vassals refuse to pay, or are they so bad that it is no longer objectionable?
  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2017 19: 01
    +2
    Pfff .... they thought. There is such a lobby and such a scale turning money through sweaty little pads of money ...... let them not refuse, I beg you .....
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 22 November 2017 19: 06
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Pfff .... they thought. There is such a lobby and such a scale of money, but they will not refuse, I beg you .....

      Englishwoman "breaks down"
    2. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 22 November 2017 19: 38
      +3
      The greatness of the British crown is based on the tight wallets of the Western "pioneer leaders" .... including the indicator of the pound to the "green"
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 22 November 2017 19: 57
        +7
        Kostya, welcome! You know, when they are called pioneer leaders, even in quotation marks, I feel uneasy. We had a happy childhood, the movement of the "Timurovites", the collection of scrap and waste paper. What about them? Rech "kill all." I do not know the name of the Boy Scout counselor, but the socialist word should not be applied to them. I do not scold, just from the word "pioneer leader" blows kindness, cheerful, perky.
        There is pasta in your pocket, and you have to catch it,
        Girls to smear and finish the song.
        And we have no peace, night or day
        Chase, chase, chase, counselor with a belt!
        Poems folk, music of the "Elusive".
        I, this is the one that turned around.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 23 November 2017 00: 14
          +5
          Glory hi
          Chase, chase, chase, counselor with a belt!
          good
        2. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 23 November 2017 00: 19
          +2
          Sorry buddy! Meant Chief scout .....
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  6. APASUS
    APASUS 22 November 2017 19: 04
    +1
    In my opinion, the price does not matter!
    The United States sells military cover to its allies and this has nothing to do with the sale of weapons. No matter how much the F-35 costs, whether it could fly or not, it doesn’t matter, this purchase makes a security contribution! Retreat ...................
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 November 2017 19: 13
      +6
      Quote: APASUS
      In my opinion, the price does not matter!
      The United States sells military cover to its allies and this has nothing to do with the sale of weapons. No matter how much the F-35 costs, whether it could fly or not, it doesn’t matter, this purchase makes a security contribution! Retreat ...................

      I think this is part of the truth ... "you buy what we offer you, and we cover you" ... that is why most European countries do not particularly bother to develop their military-industrial complex and equip and equip their armies.
      And if you begin to "kick", then you can put the Patriots and a couple of dozen Abrams. And who does not want to live under the "protection" of the United States, he becomes a rogue country and is liable to sanctions and the whole world is designated as yet another Evil that the whole world "civilized" (namely, US vassals) must struggle against.
      The armies of Europe atrophied and their entire fighting spirit ended as early as World War II.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 November 2017 19: 20
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        "you buy what we offer you, and we cover you."

        That's it. The truth is there are countries that can pay for this purchase, but there are those that are not capable. That's why such a distorted policy in the Baltic countries, for example ................ sells themselves as they can .
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 22 November 2017 19: 29
          +5
          Quote: APASUS
          sell themselves as they can.

          "Love for sale"
          lol
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 19: 09
    +3
    What’s the matter? Buy. WE WILL NOT PREPARATE. BUY. AND ME A TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS OF SKINTE. FOR ADVERTISEMENT. . Udody.
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 22 November 2017 19: 13
    +2
    "We would buy, but no money")))
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 November 2017 19: 15
    +2
    When to wait for a terrorist attack? The overlord will not leave this at all.
  10. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 22 November 2017 19: 35
    +2
    A very neutral reason was found that does not offend anyone. Well, in fact, you won’t say that we won’t buy so much shit. In order not to kick much, not to death, we take 48 pieces. To have a little in your opinion and a little more in our opinion.
    The Englishwoman by this action proves that she knows for sure that Russia is not threatening her. And against the Maya Indians, they have enough of their own.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 22 November 2017 20: 55
      +1
      Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
      The Englishwoman by this action proves that she knows for sure that Russia is not threatening her. And against the Maya Indians, they have enough of their own.
      They conceived everything like that, bred l ..... all over the world and continue, but more cunning pretended to be exhausted.
      1. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 23 November 2017 00: 06
        +2
        Quote: XXXIII
        Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
        The Englishwoman by this action proves that she knows for sure that Russia is not threatening her. And against the Maya Indians, they have enough of their own.
        They conceived everything like that, bred l ..... all over the world and continue, but more cunning pretended to be exhausted.

        About pretended .... That you in vain praise them so. Brexit, the complete failure of the Anglo-Saxons in the EU, is a demonstration of how they are welded there into a single union. Rogue, each of them squint at the neighbor with suspicion and desire to embarrass. They still need compensation. Gigantism of the empire in the past. Pitiful rags that are not able to pay for new ones. (Poland. Hungary. And other trash). Whatever face faces are built, the reasons are visible.
  11. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 20: 02
    +2
    They are better and do not need.
  12. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 22 November 2017 20: 06
    +3
    Hmmm ... the tortuous history of post-war British aircraft carriers was enriched by yet another bend. Not enough of them were destroyed right on the slipways by a sudden raid of the Laborites who won the election of the first "Queen Elizabeth" (atomic). Few of them were "full-deck control cruisers." Now Royal Navy will get the biggest helicopter carriers in the world.
    Miser pays twice. Sucker always pays.
    I mean, the British, saving on catapults for new AVs, set themselves cooperative mat - because apart from the F-35B, nothing else can take off from new decks. Either pay what the monopolist asks for, or remain without carrier-based aircraft. And links to fair prices they don’t give a ride here. smile
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 23 November 2017 03: 21
      0
      Quote: Alexey RA
      I mean, the British, saving on catapults for new ABs, set themselves a cooperative mat - because apart from the F-35B, nothing else can fly up from new decks. Either pay what the monopolist asks for, or remain without carrier-based aircraft. And links to fair prices will not work here. smile

      there is optionally the possibility of installation, and if they put it then they will put it. So far, for their tasks and what is enough.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 November 2017 10: 05
        0
        Quote: MadCat
        there is optionally the possibility of installation, and if they put it then they will put it.

        Yep ... although the aircraft carriers were delivered as adaptable and easily convertible to ejection, no serious work has been done in this direction since 2002 © Sir Bernard Peter Gray
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 22 November 2017 20: 09
    +2
    It’s not enough to buy them ... then they will still have to be serviced and it is several times more expensive than today's cars.
  14. japs
    japs 22 November 2017 20: 11
    +5
    The general flirts, they will buy in any way. The voter must be gently courted so that, God forbid, he does not think that the powers that be do not respect him. Tomorrow the general will find another “terrible” threat from Moscow and the Kremlin tomorrow and will receive his coveted F-35s. Gentlemen know how to conduct both foreign and domestic policies.
    Unlike our leaders ...
  15. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 20: 13
    +2
    Britain is thinking about reducing purchases F-35 Shaw? An-2 is better than F-35? So it was known for a long time. Well you nafig. It is necessary to have fun. I hope and admins like it.
  16. Altona
    Altona 22 November 2017 20: 45
    +2
    Guys, how is that? And what about the “Russian threat”? That's it, boys, we disagree. The British do not want to arm themselves with miracle weapons. laughing laughing
  17. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 22 November 2017 21: 08
    +6
    What, damn it, sadness .... or are they hoping for Christmas discounts? laughing Waiting for Santa Claus in star-striped pants ...
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 22 November 2017 21: 50
      +4
      Vasya, hello! hi
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Waiting for Santa Claus in star-striped pants ...

      Only Sam-you-Klaus will wait. wassat
      1. Going
        Going 22 November 2017 22: 48
        +8
        Wait until the moment when their whole world will stand in a stupor, there is no more market where to sell.
      2. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 23 November 2017 09: 23
        +4
        Greetings, Pasha. In terms of shaving, it’s difficult to predict anything. They have some kind of understanding of the world. yes
  18. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 November 2017 21: 32
    0
    Britain is thinking about reducing purchases F-35
    So it is. For the bazaar, answer in full. Sanctions and join the EU. (The Angles are not Russia, they will throw off the monarchy in 24 hours)
  19. Eurodav
    Eurodav 22 November 2017 22: 20
    0
    There is not enough money, we won’t believe it !!!
    Did you realize that not all yogurts are equally healthy? This is closer to the body, as Maupassant said, who Guy ... and even de ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 November 2017 22: 39
      0
      Quote: Evrodav
      There is not enough money, we won’t believe it !!!

      Why not believe? They have the Eurofighters in service, they don’t have enough money to repair on time, half of them are fun
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 23 November 2017 03: 24
      0
      Quote: Evrodav
      There is not enough money, we won’t believe it !!!
      Did you realize that not all yogurts are equally healthy? This is closer to the body, as Maupassant said, who Guy ... and even de ...

      What does yogurt have to do with it? Money can and is enough only they cut the military budget which year, the populism of the ruling party, nothing more.
  20. Romanenko
    Romanenko 23 November 2017 08: 54
    0
    In vain refuse, good car
    Only a little unfinished, well, so at this price you can convince yourself that good laughing
    Well, so as not to look like a fool
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 November 2017 11: 36
      0
      They will equip two aircraft carriers with the F-35B, and they can refuse from the F-35A.
      They have typhoons.
  21. Cook
    Cook 23 November 2017 11: 41
    0
    Why save them? They have a nuclear triad for this, they themselves will "save" whoever they want if they force them. [/ Quote]
    They just do not have a triad, they have only strategic nuclear forces on submarines.