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Putin on the basis of the exercises "West-2017" called for increased mobilization readiness

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Russian President Vladimir Putin urged to study the shortcomings identified during the exercise "West-2017", and to develop additional measures to improve mobilization readiness. He set such a task, opening a regular meeting with the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, defense industry enterprises and a number of regions of the country.


As a result of the exercise ["West-2017"] certain deficiencies were identified, it is necessary to carefully study them, to develop additional measures to improve mobilization readiness "
- Putin said.

Putin on the basis of the exercises "West-2017" called for increased mobilization readiness


The President noted that during the meeting it is planned to touch upon, above all, the civilian aspects of the past exercises, since many civilian agencies and regions were involved. The head of state expressed a desire to hear the conclusions and proposals of the heads of regions and a number of ministries involved in conducting the exercises, as well as their opinion on the identified problems and positions that need to be improved.

Summing up the exercise, Putin also called for an analysis of the capabilities of defense enterprises to increase production quickly.

I will note that the ability of the economy to quickly increase the volume of defense products and services in wartime is one of the most important conditions for ensuring the state’s military security; all strategic and simply large enterprises, regardless of their form of ownership, should be prepared for this
- Putin stressed, passes TASS
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  1. Anarchist
    Anarchist 22 November 2017 16: 23 New
    29
    Is something really coming up?
    Although you can expect anything from such creeps as the Minister of Defense of Poland and the President of Grybauskaite ... There is also Ukraine next to Georgia!
    The massive offensive of the ex-brothers?
    1. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 22 November 2017 16: 35 New
      25
      the symptoms are really bad, I wonder a lot of people realize this?
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 22 November 2017 16: 39 New
        29
        Zhen, hi!
        Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
        the symptoms are really bad, I wonder a lot of people realize this?

        Only those who follow the news and analyze! The rest of the house-2 is watching. Yes, on Instagram, they spread the food ...
        There are not so many of us!
        1. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 22 November 2017 16: 42 New
          +8
          sorry, and in the news of bullshit a lot ((
        2. figwam
          figwam 22 November 2017 16: 57 New
          +6
          I have no doubt that something is planned, the main thing is when and on what scale. The armies in the Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine are increasing, funding is increasing, NATO and the FSA will improve the military transport infrastructure in Europe and will continue to transfer troops to our border, and may also accept Finland and Sweden into NATO.
          1. Pirogov
            Pirogov 22 November 2017 17: 06 New
            +6
            Quote: figvam
            I have no doubt that something is planned, the main thing is when and on what scale. The armies in the Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine are increasing, funding is increasing, NATO and the FSA will improve the military transport infrastructure in Europe and will continue to transfer troops to our border, and may also accept Finland and Sweden into NATO.

            To crave for nuclear weapons in Poland and let them advance. They don’t want good, let them eat bad.
            1. Krasnyiy komissar
              Krasnyiy komissar 22 November 2017 17: 22 New
              +6
              I have been saying this for a long time, but the humanists were bad at it.
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 22 November 2017 17: 36 New
                14
                Russia will use nuclear weapons only if it is used against the Russian Federation! The Constitution does not order another ... War will be by ordinary means ...!
                1. Angel_and_Demon
                  Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 17: 59 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  War will be the usual means ...!

                  they make a lot of noise, they don’t trample on the ordinary ones - they understand that they will snap it off, but they will organize a zaporoshka to untie the mattress's hands only when, here's the question
                2. Ivan Ivanov
                  Ivan Ivanov 22 November 2017 17: 59 New
                  +6
                  As for me, Cadmi rightly said that we don’t have the strategic depth that we have in the USSR, which means we need to fight in someone else’s territory, which means to preempt "if a fight is inevitable"
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 22 November 2017 18: 11 New
                    12
                    Quote: IvanIvanov
                    "if a fight is inevitable"

                    Competently, but we have the "depth", so our government will not be the first to strike, our army ...
                    Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                    to untie the mattress

                    Their hands have long been untied! It’s long been attacked, but be afraid! They are very afraid, otherwise there would already be the so-called `` preventive strike ''!
                3. Kapitänleutnant
                  Kapitänleutnant 22 November 2017 19: 05 New
                  +7
                  Read the military doctrine of Russia !!! Everything is written there, how can nuclear weapons be used
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 22 November 2017 19: 19 New
                    16
                    According to the new version of the military doctrine, the Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when it is compromised the very existence of the state.
                    I doubt that the neighbors of the Russian Federation have the strength to jeopardize the existence of our homeland!
                    1. To be or not to be
                      To be or not to be 22 November 2017 21: 13 New
                      +3
                      There are also inside Russia itself. sleeping. laughing
                      1. Anarchist
                        Anarchist 22 November 2017 22: 07 New
                        10
                        I agree, I would call them - dormant, waiting ... There are also stupid ones who think that if America conquers us, a well-fed life will begin ... There are those who change their shoes in a certain situation ...
                        But there are more of us! I hope that this will remain so, But on condition that we educate our youth correctly ...! But this on condition that we educate our youth correctly ...!
                    2. Ivan Ivanov
                      Ivan Ivanov 23 November 2017 13: 28 New
                      0
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      There are also stupid ones who think that if America conquers us, a well-fed life will begin.

                      Yes, the network has a mass of bulk eccentrics reproducing the liberal mantra “we’ll lie under the states and build the right capitalism”. Japan, Germany, and Korea are given as an example, although after the collapse of the USSR, nothing like Germany was built from fragments, the maximum is subsidized Baltic states. For some reason, the prospects of being among the countries of central and south America (in terms of level) do not seem real to them, although there are much more such countries than the conditionally prosperous remnants of CMEA. pose.
                      maybe more of us, but we are divided
                4. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 23 November 2017 00: 50 New
                  0
                  The constitution does not say that. The military doctrine of the Russian Federation allows a nuclear strike first.
          2. 34 region
            34 region 22 November 2017 17: 45 New
            +2
            figv Today, 16:57. *** I have no doubt that something is planned, the main thing is when and on what scale *** To this, probably, radical Islamists with uncles with accounts in offshore should also be added. If Syria dies down, it means they’ll cook it and throw the barmaley closer to us. The Asian republics can burn. These are refugees from there. Russia has its own Islamists, plus other kolabrods. And all this without the use of nuclear weapons. And possessing nuclear weapons, such interventionists cannot be destroyed. The situation is similar to the situation of the 30s of the last century.
      2. Monos
        Monos 22 November 2017 16: 40 New
        12
        Damn, you don’t know where the nearest bomb shelter is, but they’re talking about improvement mob readiness. Everything must be built from scratch.
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 02 New
          10
          Quote: Monos
          Damn, you don’t know where the nearest bomb shelter is, but they are about improving the mob. readiness. Everything must be built from scratch.

          For example, I know where it is, but does it really help? well, you’ll sit a month, the background will decrease, you’ll come out, and what to eat? everything will be irradiated, for me it’s better right away than to mutate into skakuasov hi
          1. Monos
            Monos 22 November 2017 18: 15 New
            +8
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            for me it’s better right away

            Well, it's you in vain. Some victims of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still alive.
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 19 New
              +9
              Quote: Monos
              Some victims of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still alive.

              and keyword some - and how they feel, and where they were at the same time - this is the key question, but in the global nuclear war, what will we eat? in Japan there are only two cities, the rest was clean, and the power of those charges is not comparable with the current hi
              1. Monos
                Monos 22 November 2017 18: 23 New
                +4
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                and with global nuclear

                This, yes ... No reliable modeling of the consequences of global nuclear explosions has yet been done. Nobody knows how it will be.
                1. Angel_and_Demon
                  Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 31 New
                  12
                  Quote: Monos
                  Reliable modeling of global nuclear explosions has not yet been done. Nobody knows how it will be.

                  so I was here on the occasion of retraining in the Ministry of Emergencies, and after the lecture it will not be good, and why it is necessary to keep the shelters, I asked the same question that I wrote above in the comment, and he could not tell me anything about further survival I bet the survivors are very necessary for those in power who will be in much better conditions, if only to conduct land restoration and remove infected soil layers, but this is necessary for them, and those who will work are consumables, and Chernobyl liquidators are an example - what did they get for it?
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 22: 02 New
                    +1
                    The liquidators gave life to others. it happens. there is not always an option to get something in return. Even animals can give their lives in the name of salvation. People think there are more reasons to do so.
          2. dvina71
            dvina71 22 November 2017 19: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Well, you’ll sit a month, the background will decrease,

            What a damn background .. well, kindergarten .. God forbid .. About Totsky’s teaching, read .. at least.
            You don’t confuse .. a thermonuclear explosion, where, firstly, the nuclear charge to activate the synthesis is negligible, and secondly, during the explosion, almost everything burns out .. it's the same mini-sun .. And also .. hundreds of nuclear explosions were conducted AT the surface .., where in what place did the nuclear desert form after that?
            And the destruction of a nuclear reactor .. a full launch vehicle with a long half-life .., if the reactor explodes, there will be a desert and a background for centuries.
    2. Sofa General
      Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 42 New
      +2
      what would happen to a massive offensive of the former brothers, these brothers must first turn out of NATO (Baltic) ...
      to incite Ukraine and Georgia - well, there can only be the political elite and about 5% of frenzied Natsiks, no more ... starting a war against the Russian Federation without having “firm promises about foreign countries (NATO) that will help us is scary" ...
    3. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 22 November 2017 17: 21 New
      +1
      The non-brothers should be immediately scrapped using the entire arsenal of funds of the RF Armed Forces. The Georgians have already tried to climb on us - they have raked out, a second chance should not be given to anyone. Let the natives try on the skin of the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War, if they decide to rock the boat!
    4. 210ox
      210ox 22 November 2017 17: 39 New
      +2
      I think this is a warning to everyone. Including the owners of factories, newspapers, ships ... That they would know the place, if anything ..
      Quote: Anarchist
      Is something really coming up?
      Although you can expect anything from such creeps as the Minister of Defense of Poland and the President of Grybauskaite ... There is also Ukraine next to Georgia!
      The massive offensive of the ex-brothers?
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 22 November 2017 18: 11 New
      +1
      Planned work !!
      Further, the GDP said this: “Earlier, in 2015–2016, we already discussed this topic in rather detail. We were given instructions to modernize production capacities, create a reserve of material and technical resources, and ensure troop transport. This work is carried out by ministries and departments under the leadership of collegiums of the Military-Industrial Commission and in close cooperation with the Ministry of Defense. ""
      They tested it at the West 2017 training. VVP: "We need to once again analyze the capabilities of defense enterprises to quickly increase the production of military products.

      According to the results of the exercise, certain shortcomings were identified. We need to carefully study them, to develop additional measures to increase mobilization readiness. "
      http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56150
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 22 November 2017 18: 34 New
        10
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Planned work !!

        Not to be!
        Well, or, as Stanislavsky said - `` I do not believe it! ''
    6. Viktor77
      Viktor77 22 November 2017 19: 29 New
      +2
      "Want peace, get ready for war" is a long-known principle.
    7. Star
      Star 22 November 2017 21: 24 New
      +3
      The defense industry has been working in three shifts for more than a year ....
  2. Sofa General
    Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 26 New
    12
    I will note that the ability of the economy to quickly increase the volume of defense products and services in wartime is one of the most important conditions for ensuring the state’s military security; all strategic and simply large enterprises, regardless of their form of ownership, should be prepared for this
    - Putin stressed, reports TASS

    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich...
    Unfortunately, all your “right words” often remain only on the frames of the chronicle and on paper ...
    It seems like everyone is interested in the availability of highly qualified personnel, only the "unconscious" population does not want to become these personnel ...
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 22 November 2017 16: 49 New
      +9
      Not just does not want, but categorically does not want to defend the interests of Miller, Sechin, Medvedev and others.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 November 2017 17: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: andrej-shironov
        Not just does not want, but categorically does not want to defend the interests of Miller, Sechin, Medvedev and others.

        Like, nobody cares about their homeland, because Miller, Sechin and others live there?
        Interesting ... Somewhere I have already met such ideas ... sort of like in a memoir ...
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 22 November 2017 17: 28 New
          +2
          Do not turn upside down. You understand everything. We already had the First World War. What she led you know.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 November 2017 17: 36 New
            +3
            It’s worth, my friend, it’s worth it. One came to liberate us from serfdom, the other from the power of the Bolsheviks. Well no, some, of course, sided with the "liberators." There are all kinds of Poles, Vlasovites and others ...
            But the problem is that the statements of propaganda are one. But the real goals of all these "campaigns to the East" were completely different.
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 06 New
              +7
              Quote: Spade
              One came to free us from serfdom

              let me object in this case - Stolypin freed from serfdom, but revolutionary liberators freed him from this for this, too, from mortal life hi
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 22 November 2017 18: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                let me object in this case - Stolypin freed from serfdom

                Napoleon stated that he wants to do this.
                Well, Stolypin already freed formally free peasant from the community.
                1. Angel_and_Demon
                  Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 16 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Spade
                  Stolypin already freed a formally free peasant from the community.

                  formally, he was not free, corvée was, he gave everyone equal opportunities and freed from the day laborer
                  1. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 23 November 2017 00: 56 New
                    0
                    There were no corvettes for a long time by the time the Stolypin reforms began.
            2. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 22 November 2017 19: 33 New
              +2
              That's when these citizens will simply live in Russia on retirement of TR 15, and not manipulate the consciousness of people like you, when it will be known for certain that they will not "leak" to other places, leaving us to drag chestnuts out of the fire when their children will be in the forefront of the defenders of the homeland, then we'll talk. And it is necessary to defend the Motherland in parallel with the cleaning of the Augean stables. And then I repeat, it will again be like after the 1st World War.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 22 November 2017 19: 53 New
                +5
                Quote: andrej-shironov
                That's when these citizens ... blah blah blah ... then we'll talk.

                All of the above can be combined into the phrase "Homeland owes me, the list is attached, when it does, I will decide whether I intend to protect it."
                1. freddyk
                  freddyk 22 November 2017 21: 45 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Spade
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  That's when these citizens ... blah blah blah ... then we'll talk.

                  All of the above can be combined into the phrase "Homeland owes me, the list is attached, when it does, I will decide whether I intend to protect it."


                  I believe your mistake is that you put an equal sign between the homeland and the state. These are two big differences. "I love my homeland,
                  But the state - I hate it! "(C)
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 November 2017 21: 58 New
                    +2
                    Well, I mean that. I hated the Russian state, came with Napoleon’s troops. He hated the Soviet state, began to create the Lokot Republic, the right state in the occupied territory.

                    Krasnov, too, "Loved the Motherland, but hated the State." And Denikin lowered him for this from the stairs. For he did not share these concepts, although, to put it mildly, he was cool about the Soviet regime.
                  2. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 22: 06 New
                    +3
                    divide and individually will only defend the homeland? Or how should this happen in your inflamed consciousness?
                    1. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 22 November 2017 23: 51 New
                      +3
                      No, I’ll just try to destroy those who sell it together with the enemies of the Motherland.
                      1. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 23 November 2017 00: 56 New
                        0
                        No, just along with the enemies of the motherland I will try to destroy и those who sell it.


                        in your case "And" is superfluous
                2. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 23 November 2017 08: 52 New
                  +2
                  Dear Shovels! Needless to say, you don’t know for certain. I have never asked anything from the Motherland or the state! From the word at all. And of course I will defend my homeland. Partisan detachment without the leadership of the above persons is my everything :-)
        2. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 22 November 2017 19: 36 New
          +4
          Dear Shovels! You, as always, confuse the interests of the Motherland and the interests of the personalities listed above by me. We have already passed this in Catalonia, when the people are ready to defend, but the power turned out to be weak.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 November 2017 19: 57 New
            +5
            Quote: andrej-shironov
            You, as always, confuse the interests of the Motherland and the interests of the personalities listed above by me.

            How interesting.
            And tell me, "confusing", what is the mechanism of military operations of the same NATO bloc exclusively against "Miller, Sechin, Medvedev and others."?
            So that the rest of the country is not affected. As in Yugoslavia, humanitarian bombing, and agents of influence of NATO countries, dragging youth to the barricades, so that they take power?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 22 November 2017 22: 07 New
              +3
              Quote: Spade
              And tell me, "confusing", what is the mechanism of military operations of the same NATO bloc exclusively against "Miller, Sechin, Medvedev and others."?

              The mechanism now operates in the form of seizure of their stolen assets.
              As for the hot phase, then of course nothing. The usual showdown between the capitalists of the lone profits. But it is unlikely to reach this phase. Although in one of the Federal Laws, NATO countries can send their troops, but only to pacify the raging population.
              You see, that anti-mattress rhetoric, which is broadcast on the internal, is not used at all for the external market. On the external, they are all partners and colleagues, and if their “values” are threatened, they will rush into battle together, rejecting all their internal corporate differences.
              It’s easier to say people are a hindrance that has not yet realized that it is the same enemy
              Now explain why the capitalist trump is better or worse than the capitalist Putin, yes, yes, the capitalist, you have to face the truth?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 22 November 2017 22: 22 New
                +3
                Quote: Stroporez
                Although according to one of the Federal Laws, NATO countries can send their troops

                "Duck". Diligently broadcasted in spite of the rebuttal Oh, I don’t know why ...
                Quote: Stroporez
                It’s simpler to say that people are a hindrance that has not yet realized that the enemy is common.

                Gee ...
                Already there was somewhere too. And, I remembered, the imperialists will attack, their people will rise. "... and on enemy land we will defeat the enemy with little blood, a mighty blow ..." (c)
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 November 2017 22: 47 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Spade
                  Duck. "Diligently broadcasted in spite of refutations. I don’t know why ...

                  This?
                  Federal Law of June 7, 2007 N 99-ФЗ "On Ratification of the Agreement between the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other States participating in the Partnership for Peace" program, on the status of their Forces of June 19, 1995 and its Additional Protocol

                  Federal law of 7 June 2007 g. N 99-FZ
                  “On the ratification of the Agreement between the States parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other states participating in the Partnership for Peace program,
                  : http://base.garant.ru/12154048/#ixzz4zBvcnaGt
                  Quote: Spade
                  Already there was somewhere too.

                  Of course, everything in the world is cyclical, but only you didn’t understand my message.
                  To simplify the idea .... people don’t need our own power, people need to be taught, treated, provided with water and heat, and at the same time, this people itself is sometimes "dumb" .... Provided that most regions are subsidized, they don’t they produce "kimberlite pipes and they were not lucky with oil fields, and the loamy land is also located in the midst of risky farming — is this all capital needs ???
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 November 2017 23: 01 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    This?
                    Federal Law of June 7, 2007 N 99-ФЗ "On Ratification of the Agreement between the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other States participating in the Partnership for Peace" program, on the status of their Forces of June 19, 1995 and its Additional Protocol

                    Is this the terrible Federal Law supposedly aimed at “bringing in NATO troops,” but in reality at first ensuring the possibility of conducting joint exercises, which, as I recall, were carried out up to 13 years?

                    Backfill question: Are you sure that “for the introduction of NATO troops” at the initiative of the country's authorities some laws are needed?
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    but only you didn’t understand my promise.
                    Simplify the thought .... people do not need our own power

                    So you are sure that the situation with the collapse of the USSR is repeating itself?
                    Personally, I do not see the prerequisites for such a situation.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 23 November 2017 08: 53 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Spade
                      Backfill question: Are you sure that “for the introduction of NATO troops” at the initiative of the country's authorities some laws are needed?

                      I’m not at all sure and I think that no laws will be required.
                      Quote: Spade
                      So you are sure that the situation with the collapse of the USSR is repeating itself?

                      No, now the situation is different.
                      The main factor is that there are no border national territories.
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 22: 50 New
                +8
                Quote: Stroporez
                Mechanism operates now in the form of seizure of their stolen assets

                Movement It does not work. Everything else is trepidation.
                Quote: Stroporez
                in one of the Federal Laws, NATO countries can send their troops

                FZ number - to the studio ... here I bet on anything that there will be no numbers, but there will be, as usual, trepidation (again).
                Quote: Stroporez
                one must face the truth

                Look, here's the truth: the real information in your comment is zero integers, zero ones torn. Trepidation, trepidation ... you yourself are not tired of it yet?
              3. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 23: 13 New
                +8
                UPD:
                No need to link to the Federal Law, everything is clear laughing
                Quote: Stroporez
                Federal law of 7 June 2007 g. N 99-FZ
                “On the ratification of the Agreement between the States parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other states participating in the Partnership for Peace program,
                http://base.garant.ru/12154048/#ixzz4zBvcnaGt

                Sling cutter, you ... miracle love
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 November 2017 22: 08 New
              +3
              the circus did not touch this issue so deeply. they only remembered the paragraph about Miller and Sechin. this is reflection at the experimental level.

              In general, you will not find the truth in their answer, Lopatov. They only show performance, and the dialogue is not embedded in the program.

              It happens here)
              1. dSK
                dSK 22 November 2017 22: 44 New
                +2
                "I note that the ability of the economy to rapidly increase the volume of defense products and services in wartime is one of the most important conditions for ensuring the military security of the state, all strategic and simply large enterprises should be prepared for this regardless of ownership"Putin emphasized. November 22 2017 years

                The time of liberalism and anarchy is ending, the pendulum of history has moved towards "mobilization and consolidation"? soldier
            3. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 23 November 2017 08: 53 New
              0
              Shovels, you as always prepare for past wars :-)
  3. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 22 November 2017 16: 39 New
    +1
    Mobilization is war. Marshal Shaposhnikov wrote in the book `` the brain of the army. ''
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 22 November 2017 17: 15 New
      +6
      Yes, it’s not about mobilization, but about mobilization readiness. These are completely different things.
      Here the logic of the ancient Romans is more suitable: if you want peace, you are preparing for war.
  4. Holoy
    Holoy 22 November 2017 16: 43 New
    11
    Return urgent! 2 years overland; 3 years-Navy
    And that all sons of ministers, officials, oligarchs would serve!
    And now, confusion and reeling, no one will die for the Oligarchs ...
    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 51 New
      +2
      well, so-called the "golden regiment" ... will serve purely formally - will it become easier for you?
    2. I doubt it
      I doubt it 22 November 2017 17: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Holoy
      ... for the Oligarchs no one will die ...

      I am absolutely sure that if something happens, they won’t even ask us ....
    3. DenZ
      DenZ 22 November 2017 18: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Holoy
      And now, confusion and reeling, no one will die for the Oligarchs ...

      And what does it mean "no one will die for the oligarchs"? If Russia is attacked, will you also be asking such a question? Or something like- "if the sons of the oligarchs are not in the army, then I will not defend Russia." Well, nonsense, sort of ...
      1. Kleber
        Kleber 22 November 2017 20: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: DenZ
        Quote: Holoy
        And now, confusion and reeling, no one will die for the Oligarchs ...

        And what does it mean "no one will die for the oligarchs"? If Russia is attacked, will you also be asking such a question? Or something like- "if the sons of the oligarchs are not in the army, then I will not defend Russia." Well, nonsense, sort of ...


        Not bullshit, but the betrayal of the motherland .... one must call a spade a spade.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 22 November 2017 20: 09 New
          +6
          Quote: Kleber
          Not bullshit, but the betrayal of the motherland .... one must call a spade a spade.

          Betrayal of what ???? These ghouls dragged the state, and you suggest me die for them?
          Or are you going to push me right now that I’ll go to fight for the children, my home? I will defend them without these slogans.
          And if you have a desire to lay down your head for the same Putin, Medvedev, Naibulin, Rotenbergs, then come on, go ahead!
          And to me they are deeply disgusting. And I’m asking you not to confuse my homeland with this husk.
          1. Kleber
            Kleber 22 November 2017 20: 18 New
            +2
            Campaigning at the wrong place. Read the comments carefully.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 22 November 2017 20: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: Kleber
              And what does it mean "no one will die for the oligarchs"? If Russia is attacked, will you also be asking such a question? Or something like- "if the sons of the oligarchs are not in the army, then I will not defend Russia." Well, nonsense, sort of ...


              Not bullshit, but the betrayal of the motherland .... one must call a spade a spade.

              what reading can there be?
              By the way, I'm not an agitator at all, just expressed my personal IMHO. hi
              1. Kleber
                Kleber 22 November 2017 20: 41 New
                0
                Well, you insert other people's quotes under my nickname?
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 November 2017 20: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kleber
                  Not bullshit, but the betrayal of the motherland .... one must call a spade a spade.

                  explain, maybe I didn’t understand what?
                  1. Kleber
                    Kleber 22 November 2017 21: 01 New
                    0
                    Yes, there are individuals here who, during mobilization, will not go to war, on the basis of the presence of oligarchs and the lack of motivation, having forgotten that there is also a homeland.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 22 November 2017 21: 09 New
                      +5
                      A colleague, a homeland and a state are two different things. But this is the current state, which is imprisoned against the people, I am not going to protect either. Let them go policemen and natsgv. protects, and not in the rear, a stew with tanning salts.
                      And I'm in the partisans for Soviet power. soldier
                      1. Kleber
                        Kleber 22 November 2017 21: 17 New
                        +1
                        Landing in the partisans))))) Have you already picked up the occupied territory? ))))
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 22 November 2017 21: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Kleber
          Not bullshit, but the betrayal of the motherland .... one must call a spade a spade.

  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 22 November 2017 16: 47 New
    +9
    What mobilization readiness can we talk about? Was something done for her? Maybe people were motivated? Or maybe there is an idea for which they will fight as in 1941?
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 22 November 2017 17: 30 New
      +1
      People, horses have mixed up in a heap ... What does mobilization readiness have to do with motivation? Yes, and here in 1941?
      And motivation, if not, will appear when the family is covered by an arriving “Tamahawk”.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 November 2017 17: 52 New
        +3
        Kleber Today, 17:30. In LDNR, at first they were not very eager to crush the Kiev junta. Or was there no motivation? And 300 Spartans Strelkova did not raise the outskirts against the juntics. And many from the juntics choked with refugees from the country. Do you think everything will be different in Russia and everyone will volunteer?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 November 2017 18: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: 34 region
          Do you think everything will be different in Russia and everyone will volunteer?

          Hehe ... Do you even know what "mobilization" is? And the most interesting, and here are the "volunteers"?
          When mobilizing, no one is asked his desires. 8))))))))))))))))))))
          1. 34 region
            34 region 22 November 2017 19: 14 New
            +1
            Lopatov Today, 18:01. And how was mobilization carried out on the outskirts to suppress the junta?
            1. Kleber
              Kleber 22 November 2017 19: 17 New
              0
              Quote: 34 region
              Lopatov Today, 18:01. And how was mobilization carried out on the outskirts to suppress the junta?


              Who do you mean by the junta?
              1. 34 region
                34 region 22 November 2017 19: 36 New
                +1
                Kleber Today, 19:17. *** And who do you mean by the junta? *** Those who are in Kiev.
                1. Kleber
                  Kleber 22 November 2017 19: 54 New
                  0
                  So no one announced the mobilization. Golden eagle drove and all.
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 November 2017 19: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: 34 region
              And how was mobilization carried out on the outskirts to suppress the junta?

              And was she?
              1. 34 region
                34 region 22 November 2017 19: 37 New
                +1
                Lopatov Today, 19:19. What are we talking about. None of the authorities stood up to defend the country.
        2. Kleber
          Kleber 22 November 2017 18: 05 New
          +2
          Volunteers? During the general mobilization? Open the Military ID and read in the account, where you need to be in the case of the announcement of the general mobilization, for how long and what to bring.

          Something everybody attacked on some kind of Kolya the Underdeveloped, but there is no motivation to defend their country in case of war.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 22 November 2017 19: 16 New
            +1
            Kleber Today, 18:05. *** But how to protect your country in case of war, there is no motivation. *** Look at the outskirts. Why was there no motivation?
            1. Kleber
              Kleber 22 November 2017 19: 21 New
              0
              And with what states is Ukraine officially at war?
              Can the list be voiced?
              1. 34 region
                34 region 22 November 2017 19: 46 New
                +1
                Kleber Today, 19:21. *** And with what states is Ukraine officially at war? *** Itself with itself. Power in Kiev was captured by the proteges of another country. And who prevented them? The same thing happened in the 90s. And all without the invasion of tanks and aircraft. Do you think this is impossible today?
                1. Kleber
                  Kleber 22 November 2017 19: 56 New
                  0
                  The fact of the matter is that with itself. Nobody announced the Chechens either in the First or Second.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 November 2017 20: 18 New
                    +1
                    In the second, some volunteers had to fight back with arms and legs. 8)))))
                    In the majority, of course, they were adequate, but there were those that at least stand, even fall. 8)))
                    1. Kleber
                      Kleber 22 November 2017 20: 24 New
                      0
                      Yes, you finally consider that the general mobilization plan does not include any volunteers!!! Until you understand this, there’s nothing to talk about.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 22 November 2017 20: 30 New
                        +1
                        I already wrote it above.
                        Although ... During the mobilization of 41 years there were volunteers.
      2. groks
        groks 22 November 2017 18: 31 New
        +2
        According to the mobplan, experts are taken out with their families. So either it will cover everyone, or it will pass by. Given the fact that mobplans have not changed for about 50 years, the areas are known and most likely will be covered.
      3. Sofa General
        Sofa General 22 November 2017 18: 36 New
        +4
        And if there isn’t any motivation, when the family will cover with the arrived “Tamahawk”

        The main thing is that on the other side, from where the tomahawk will fly, there would be no curls, sechins, millers and other Medvedevs with bulk
        1. Kleber
          Kleber 22 November 2017 18: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Sofa General
          And if there isn’t any motivation, when the family will cover with the arrived “Tamahawk”

          The main thing is that on the other side, from where the tomahawk will fly, there would be no curls, sechins, millers and other Medvedevs with bulk


          Yes, and let them be. Vlasovs at all times were ... their end is also known.
          1. Sofa General
            Sofa General 22 November 2017 18: 43 New
            +5
            There were. At all times...
            But speaking specifically about Vlasov, Putin is far from Stalin ...
            And the famous Stalinist “I don’t exchange a soldier for a general” does not apply to the children of those whom I named ...
            I think that they would gladly bomb not only Russia, but the whole world, if only they would eat hearty ...
            1. Kleber
              Kleber 22 November 2017 18: 55 New
              0
              Well, Putin didn’t take children prisoner, so I would not advise wishful thinking.

              PS: Paulus was a field marshal.
      4. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 23 November 2017 08: 59 New
        +1
        I agree, at first glance, no. You should be aware that people fight for an idea much more mercilessly than for money. And if the people are demotivated, he has no idea, then of course he will allow himself to be mobilized, but what happens later ... In 1914, everything also began very patriotically. But then, when the people saw that mediocre generals were losing battle after battle, the capitalists were getting richer regardless of whether there was a war or not, when only the people were dying, and the elite sons were living behind. Then you yourself know.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 November 2017 16: 50 New
    +1
    As a result of the exercise ["West-2017"] certain deficiencies were identified, it is necessary to carefully study them, to develop additional measures to improve mobilization readiness "
    - Putin said.

    I agree. Allies made faces through the fence, and you? Wars ...
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 16: 58 New
    +3
    analyze the capabilities of defense enterprises to rapidly increase production volumes. A sad case will be.
  8. solzh
    solzh 22 November 2017 17: 01 New
    +1
    Getting ready for a new world? Putin said (taken from the news on lenta.ru):
    “All large private and state-owned enterprises of Russia should be ready for an operational transition to military rails and increase the production of military products. This was announced on Wednesday, November 22, by President Vladimir Putin. In 2015-2016, this topic was discussed in detail, the president recalled. "The corresponding instructions were given to modernize production capacities, form a reserve of material and technical resources, ensure troop transport," Putin said. Participants in the meeting should draw appropriate conclusions for the future, the head of state emphasized. "
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 22 November 2017 17: 07 New
    +3
    Why mobilization? You can just repent!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 22 November 2017 17: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      You can just repent!

      Before whom?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 22 November 2017 18: 37 New
        +4
        Before whom?
        find a boy and repent, and lovers of repentance themselves will find in front of whom.
    2. Glory to Berkut
      Glory to Berkut 22 November 2017 17: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why mobilization? You can just repent!


      You see what’s the matter. After Russia raised its head and declared its rights and national interests, the option to "repent" will not work. We will be clamped, bled, split, and ultimately destroyed. There will be no second chance, as after the 90s. In fact, if you turn on the back and begin to repent and give in, then we will eventually be destroyed.
      Therefore, if the question becomes: either gasp, or surrender, then I prefer - to gasp. And there we will see who is more likely to survive and win.
      1. groks
        groks 22 November 2017 18: 26 New
        +1
        What are "national interests"? Where did you say?
        If they wanted, they would have collapsed right in the 90s. If you want now, it’s also very simple. It is not fake sanctions that are introduced, but the import of seed material is prohibited. And in a year (maximum), we ourselves will make President Navalny, even Obama.
        1. Glory to Berkut
          Glory to Berkut 22 November 2017 22: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: groks
          What are "national interests"? Where did you say?

          Squeezing the dollar out of the calculations, Crimea, Donbass, Syria, the Arctic - and this is just what we see.
          Quote: groks

          If they wanted, they would have collapsed right in the 90s.

          Yeah, they tried. But it did not grow together. While EBN danced in a blue frenzy, a lot of people made titanic efforts to prevent Russia from falling apart. Oh ... Or do you think that Putin happened to be Prime Minister, and then President ??? belay Eeeee ... And that he alone, manually pulled the country out of the ass ... ??? belay
          Quote: groks
          If you want now, it’s also very simple. It is not fake sanctions that are introduced, but the import of seed material is prohibited. And in a year (maximum), we ourselves will make President Navalny, even Obama.

          Of course you will do it, but who will give it to you? laughing
          But in essence I can say: apparently Russia has a SERIOUS answer to NOT fake sanctions. Therefore, there is a game in semitones
          1. groks
            groks 23 November 2017 15: 54 New
            0
            What is this extrusion? We do not follow prices, even for the most unexpected products, following the dollar?
            Crimea is a suitcase without a handle until it is recognized. Was he recognized? Donbass us what? Was he also recognized? There are magnificent industrial enterprises. Our government, the oligarchs have already invested in them? I have not heard.
            In Syria, it seems nothing. In the sense - nothing clear. In good intentions, i.e. they just decided to help the poor - I DO NOT BELIEVE. A showdown with the “partners” for the future pipe from Qatar - at least a little like the truth. Will Novak and Miller have even more salaries? No, well, it’s clear that if the “partners” extend the pipe, it will make us worse. But this is more a coincidence of the interests of the people and the elite than the elite specifically for the people.
            Have you already raped something from the Arctic? Bye talk.
            What does it mean - not grown together? And how would they pump oil and gas through a dozen feral principalities? So another question is what kind of people made efforts. Here we know one titan - Chubais. So he applied the other way. So who are these people?
            Assigning someone by EBN is not the best recommendation. not at all the best.
            I don’t see at all that Putin dragged him out. Oil prices were high - they lived well. Then they collapsed and began to "rise from their knees." Horseradish has been chewing snot for so many years? And to cherish money. Someone estimated that about 3-4-5 Stalinist industrializations were devoured. From scratch industrialization!
            No pathos. If there is nothing to eat, then we will do everything. We’ll spit, but there’s nowhere to go.
            What kind of answer? Expression of concern? So with this recently not very.

            PS Being a patriot does not mean yelling about “getting up from one’s knees” and jumping with the name of the president of the Russian Federation.
            1. Glory to Berkut
              Glory to Berkut 23 November 2017 18: 08 New
              0
              Quote: groks
              PS Being a patriot does not mean yelling about “getting up from one’s knees” and jumping with the name of the president of the Russian Federation.

              This is certain. Only patriots are different. Someone is a patriot of their country. Someone is a patriot of his stomach. Indeed, to summarize the above, you are most concerned about the level of salaries of high-ranking officials, and your own stomach is extremely worried. Especially if with a projection on "someone pretended" the conclusion about the 3-4-5 industrializations spent on it. I’m not even going to clarify exactly who has figured out how many industrializations it is - 3, 4 or 5. Although, if you imagine the total investment in absolute terms in terms of today, the difference between three and five will be, to put it mildly, several Schenevraumla budgets. But these details are not important, right? The main thing is to moan about the bad rich uncles who do not allow ordinary people to eat. And these uncles must build factories. I even think that rich uncles do not mind building. But since everything in us is crazy, smart, wise, politically and economically savvy, knowing all the simple answers to complex questions, the face of the problem is those who want to work in factories. Here from the office to write how someone needs to do what - it’s thousands who want it. Moreover, all require urgent profits.

              As for oil prices. Oil prices have fallen, sanctions have been imposed against Russia. According to forecasts of Western experts, the economy was supposed to fall apart by the end of 2016. Congratulations on the upcoming 2018! By the way, I saw a new TPP in Sevastopol - impressive in size. There are no problems with electricity. The construction of "Tauris" is in full swing at the same time in several areas, a real highway is being poured. At the end of 2018, we are waiting for the completion of the bridge construction.
              Maybe you have nowhere to go, I do not know. Maybe you like self-flagellation. And we are going to live and develop. Hello from the Crimea! wink
              1. groks
                groks 23 November 2017 20: 52 New
                0
                Apparently, there are also patriots of the oligarchs. Which might have built factories, but only shopping and entertainment centers are being built.
                Shouldn't the income of the oligarchs bother me? But nothing, what is the money stolen from us?
                I honestly do not remember who counted the equivalent, maybe Delyagin, maybe Fursov. But in any case, not Gref and not Kudrin. The fact itself is in doubt? Abramovich’s yachts are quite material.
                Magic hamster word "investment" to what? What are the hints about the office? You can directly say / ask. Ordinary engineer in a conventional defense industry, salary 25000r. No - I won’t go to “business”, because someone needs to be involved in business. Hello to your guru, a St. Petersburg Satanist Jew, but I won’t go.
                Sanctions are good for us. After all, all the cheer patriots are trumpeting this. It would be for the benefit if, at the same time, the money were again not consumed by the oligarchs, but were used for something useful. Only now, when it is advantageous to refer to them as a negative factor - hurray-patriots refer to them. Make up your mind somehow, at the EdR congress, adopt a resolution.
                TPP in Sevastopol did not see. But a new power unit was put into operation (on the second attempt) at the NNPP. It is remarkable that there have been no problems with electricity in the region since the time of the drunk, and even then it was much better than in the Far East, for example. It is remarkable that no increase in energy consumption is expected in the region. Well, unless, of course, everyone is forcibly put on electric cars. Such strange things.
                Self flagellation? Or you just have to look around, taking off the pink glasses. Just to ensure that the kabdets did not sneak up unnoticed.
                Hello from Voronezh.
                1. Glory to Berkut
                  Glory to Berkut 24 November 2017 07: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: groks
                  Self flagellation? Or you just have to look around, taking off the pink glasses. Just to ensure that the kabdets did not sneak up unnoticed.


                  Look at your health. As soon as you see the cab, inform us immediately wink
                  1. groks
                    groks 24 November 2017 18: 02 New
                    0
                    The harmfulness of such an eye-contaminant lies in the fact that the Cuban will come unnoticed by most. Those. all is well, good, even better, and then all of a sudden (!) nothing at all.
                    I would like to avoid this suddenness if possible.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 22 November 2017 18: 41 New
        +3
        In fact, if you turn on the back and begin to repent and give in, then we will eventually be destroyed.
        and we do this, either the boy goes to Europe to repent, then the president himself kneels in front of the Poles, demolishes the monuments to our heroes, and we are silent, again our athletes were deprived of the Olympic titles and this is all the time. And so I for Zhahnut.
        1. Glory to Berkut
          Glory to Berkut 22 November 2017 22: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          In fact, if you turn on the back and begin to repent and give in, then we will eventually be destroyed.
          and we do this, either the boy goes to Europe to repent, then the president himself kneels in front of the Poles, demolishes the monuments to our heroes, and we are silent, again our athletes were deprived of the Olympic titles and this is all the time. And so I for Zhahnut.

          Let's go in order:
          1. A boy is a victim of certain adults who want to have a media profit. But since the writers of the text turned out to have less brains than tricks, it turned out to be a mitt. The main thing here is to draw a correct conclusion and pay attention to how super-school add-ons work - education departments. The main purpose of which was to draw at any cost positive indicators, bravura reports, and at the same time, self-removal from the real problems that schools face. The text without agreement would not be released.
          2. Did I miss something when the President knelt before the Poles? Poroshenko honored guard bowed, it was a matter. Pour it, go? wink
          3. And we are not silent about the demolitions of the monuments. But on foreign territory, it is not for us to decide what to build and destroy. It’s bitter to see it. Well, what do you suggest?
          4. And it’s more difficult with athletes - mattresses have invested huge sums in discrediting our people. But when their venture fails (and it fails, because everyone cannot lie for a long time), the rollback will be impressive. Ours will be world famous heroes wink
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 23 November 2017 08: 25 New
            +2
            A boy is a victim of certain adults who want to have a media profit.
            No! the boy the weapon from which they shot at Russia.
            when did the president kneel before the poles?

            about in a foreign territory is not for us to decide
            it may not be for us to decide, but conclusions must be made. And then they simply regret these monuments, and when the oligarch Karimov was detained in France, oh, how the Kremlin got aroused.
            mattresses to discredit our huge investment.
            But how much did ours invest in American securities? or in war as in war, or let them not whine, then Obama is to blame, then trump, but what have they done for the prosperity of the country? Their children were transported to London!
            1. Glory to Berkut
              Glory to Berkut 23 November 2017 18: 22 New
              0
              Dear Gardamir, kneeling in front of the monument to Soviet soldiers in Poland and kneeling in front of the Poles is a big difference. This is akin to the assertion that the tri-Baltic breast-covered Europe from Russia. laughing

              Kerimov is a member of the Federation Council. A medium (real or potential, I don’t know) of certain secret and confidential information. Do you know what happens when there is a danger of a secretary or cryptographer getting captured? His OBLIGATIONS to save or destroy. No matter who he is. Lieutenant or Colonel. Now they are trying to pull it out.

              Securities transactions are such a dense forest that I won’t even take any measure of them. This is far beyond my comprehension.
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 23 November 2017 22: 01 New
                0
                kneeling in front of the monument to Soviet soldiers in Poland, and kneeling in front of the Poles is a big difference.
                here he repents for the innocently killed Poles whom the bloody regime of Stalin killed.
                Kerimov has already been pulled out. Although why do carriers travel abroad?
                1. Glory to Berkut
                  Glory to Berkut 24 November 2017 07: 50 New
                  0
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  here he repents for the innocently killed Poles whom the bloody regime of Stalin killed.

                  Right so loudly and repented near a wreath framed by the Russian tricolor? Didn’t he offer money to the Poles for the inconvenience caused by Stalin? winked
                  Quote: Gardamir

                  Kerimov has already been pulled out. Although why do carriers travel abroad?

                  But this is a very interesting question for the competent authorities.
    3. DenZ
      DenZ 22 November 2017 18: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why mobilization? You can just repent!

      Yes, to repent and after that they will cut your throat. The West does not need people in Russia; they need territories. However, they will not receive anything.
      Quote: Pirogov
      Before whom?

      Yes, these are all Western liberals and ours offer us to repent for the kind of weight those sufferings that the Russians brought to the world and for human rights violations (as without this) and generally for a lot (for what we are in general).
  10. Topotun
    Topotun 22 November 2017 17: 21 New
    +3
    Yes, it seems the truth is a serious situation. However, it is not surprising that our "partners" need to somehow solve problems with American trillion domestic debts ... And the experience of the First and Great Patriotic War shows how this can be solved ....
  11. I doubt it
    I doubt it 22 November 2017 17: 32 New
    +7
    "... the ability of the economy to rapidly increase the volume of defense products ... all strategic and simply large enterprises, regardless of ownership, should be prepared for this"
    I wonder how you, dear president, imagine this? Especially in the part "... regardless of ownership."
    And further. We have almost everything "... just large enterprises ..." have become completely large. And the process goes further. And who is lucky. From the rest there were only names in the memory of the factory workers ...., new housing estates and shopping complexes.
    One day you suddenly realized, gentlemen!
    1. Vanko
      Vanko 22 November 2017 18: 45 New
      +1
      Anarchist Today, 17:36 PM ↑ New
      Russia will use nuclear weapons only if it is used against the Russian Federation! The Constitution does not order another ... War will be by ordinary means ...!
      1. Vanko
        Vanko 22 November 2017 18: 52 New
        +1
        The doctrine has long been developed that even if non-nuclear will cause damage, then we use nuclear weapons. There will be no war by conventional means. These are Amer's slobbering dreams of a global non-nuclear (OVER 5000 Tomahawk) strike, and the natural fears of GDP on this subject lead to such his statements. Homeland should be ready to reflect everything and everything, no matter what.
      2. Kapitänleutnant
        Kapitänleutnant 22 November 2017 18: 58 New
        +2
        Read the military doctrine of Russia! Smart ass!
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 November 2017 19: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Vanko
        Russia will use nuclear weapons only if it is used against the Russian Federation! The Constitution does not order another ... War will be by ordinary means ...!

        And how do you determine with what “filling” the “Tomahawks” fly? Psychic tell me?
        A massive missile strike is considered nuclear by default. And a retaliatory strike is carried out so that the enemy does not have time to destroy or weaken the forces of nuclear deterrence.
  12. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 22 November 2017 17: 39 New
    +7
    What has the government done so that its people, without hesitation, give their life for their homeland, nothing, nothing since the collapse of the Great Country. It made it possible for the oligarchs to enrich themselves, and piled on the great people, now let them reap the fruits of mobilization. Of course, many of us ..... to the oligarchs and liberals, will squeeze all our will and our multinational spirit into a single fist, and as it has already wound up historically, will taste the adversary of our heroic heroine, and then again the same picture our people in poverty , and the devils in power and nothing changes. Then the Veterans will remain barely alive, and they will give them apartments and stuff like that.
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 22 November 2017 18: 09 New
      +7
      basically you're right hi
    2. Vanko
      Vanko 22 November 2017 19: 17 New
      +2
      You are right. The government has done nothing. And we will not go for the government, but for the homeland. Not in the first. And not even for the tenth time. Just go to live. I will give for my life. Not for living better, but simply for living. I will die of course. I do not mind, I have already lived, I am 43. I have two smart kids. And I'll take with me as much as I can. They do not understand these motives, they just know about it. Therefore, there will be no slavery, there will be genocide.
      I understand the GDP very well. And I know that he understands all of the above. Hence the doctrine, and all its decrees. If we do not, it simply will not be us.

      P.S. Do not look at the flag, I'm from Samara. Modera, put me Soviet.
      1. solzh
        solzh 22 November 2017 20: 10 New
        0
        Go to "My profile"; On the right side is "Edit Profile"; Select Country Adjustment, select the country in the drop-down list. Like so.
        1. Vanko
          Vanko 22 November 2017 20: 44 New
          0
          Thanks, found)
          1. solzh
            solzh 22 November 2017 20: 54 New
            0
            How a fellow countryman (I am from Ulyanovsk) does not help hi
  13. Bare
    Bare 22 November 2017 17: 54 New
    0
    That's right, not in the eyebrow but in the eye, as they say. By coincidence of political events, the year 2018 will be very busy. Whatever happens.
    Gunpowder must be dry. The military registration and enlistment offices still need to be checked, their readiness to mobilize personnel.
  14. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 22 November 2017 17: 54 New
    +4
    I will note that the ability of the economy to quickly increase the volume of defense products and services in wartime is one of the most important conditions for ensuring the state’s military security; all strategic and simply large enterprises, regardless of their form of ownership, should be prepared for this

    Uncle Pu, before ANY enterprise in three days switched to the production of military products, but since 1991 Chubais and the company have put all their strategic reserves to the West and have ruined everything ... laughing
  15. groks
    groks 22 November 2017 18: 20 New
    +4
    This is some kind of schizophrenia. At the same time, conversion and mobilization.
    Now, if we move to ... pans, we, of course, will hand over part of the machines to scrap, poher the technology and spit on import substitution. Let's disperse the PZ - it’s right away, get free parasites! Do not forget to drink the mobile reserve and plant mushrooms in the bomb shelter.
    Well, then what will they get from us in the mobplane?
  16. cedar
    cedar 22 November 2017 18: 48 New
    +3
    The adversary knows that time works for Putin and the RF Armed Forces, which means against him. Therefore, as soon as so ...
    A favorable moment for undermining from within is the “election”. The election campaign begins in December.
    The start of a military company should be expected after the performance of the fifth column of dissatisfied ... Up to 5 may join the ranks of the orange attack aircraft. In the Sverdlovsk region there are up to 000 such ... Further possible; Vukraina, the Caucasus, Central Asia, North Korea, Syria ... NATO will climb when it is confident in a multiple advantage, but its Russian-speaking MTRs will be wielded wherever possible ... Diversion, provocation, panic ...
    It will be very difficult for the majority of the population to immediately switch from their favorite shooters and tanks to a different world of war with its real blood, suffering and loss of life, especially in big cities.
    It is very important for the remaining time to inform as many citizens as possible on the subject of civil defense and conduct during the introduction of martial law. Where, to whom, what, how and why ..? This will, to a certain extent, increase the psychological threshold of the population, and therefore increase mobilization readiness to meet the blow and survive. To survive in order to win.
    1. Vanko
      Vanko 22 November 2017 20: 48 New
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      With two hands behind. It should be so.
  17. kefan
    kefan 22 November 2017 20: 44 New
    +1
    Of course, it is necessary to raise the mobilization readiness, but we must not forget about the liberals, of whom there are a dime in the country's leadership.
  18. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 22 November 2017 21: 22 New
    +3
    Kleber,
    So we are now in the occupied territory, but not everyone understands this, unfortunately ....
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 22 November 2017 22: 32 New
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      Non-occupying military units and their deployment in the studio! ))))
  19. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 22 November 2017 22: 59 New
    +2
    So I want to repeat my comment on April 9, 2017 19:15:
    "Not everything is so bad. We have a squadron of combat yachts of Abramovich, linear yachts of Dimon, battle squadrons of Timchenko, Vekselberg, Rotenberg. Tremble, America! They built a bad army of oligarchs for 25 years of utilization of the country."
    So everything will decrease well!
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 23: 02 New
      +9
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      So I want to repeat my comment ...

      You know, I even envy you. You always have at hand a smart person with whom it is pleasant to talk laughing
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 November 2017 23: 47 New
    +1
    There used to be a unified warning system and
    preparation for emergency response.
    Now what? Well, they include sirens in our city and ...
    But they still have not said what to do and where to run.
    One can not speak about the state of the former bomb shelters.
    What about the transfer of enterprises to military rails ...
    This is not 41, when it was possible to master at almost any plant
    release of weapons. Now everything is much more complicated.
  21. Sofa General
    Sofa General 23 November 2017 00: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: c-Petrov
    all the same, I immediately discerned in you your essence)

    what was your nickname before? I'm interested)

    birds of a feather flock together...
  22. algonquin
    algonquin 23 November 2017 05: 44 New
    +1
    mobilization readiness - a signal: we are training to lift the ass over the sofa
    here is an interesting post from APRIL 2017 by hippy_end

    Here are the main of such facts, in my naive opinion, which may indicate that the transfer of the Russian economy to "military hybrid rails" has already taken place quietly:

    1. Russia produces modern weapons massively enough to conduct intensive military operations in Syria for more than a year and a half plus being one of the largest arms exporters on the planetand, as far as one can understand by the difference in military budgets, it produces in more effective ways than its geopolitical adversary
    2. The Russian Federation has become the main exporter of key, strategic energy carriers of oil and gas - perhaps the main modern "strategic weapon" for solving geopolitical problems
    3. The Russian Federation has become the largest exporter of wheat - in a situation where 2/3 of the world's population is undernourished, the second "strategic weapon" to solve geopolitical problems

    but a reasonable comment authorship sibariana
    Apr. 25th, 2017 04:50 pm (UTC)
    The topic is so vast that it cannot be covered in a post or in a comment; one has to answer intuitively.
    What war might the Russian Federation be prepared for?
    Surely - to nuclear. Not to victory, but to causing unacceptable damage to potential opponents.
    To a total war like WWII? Partially
    .
    Common withThe state of the economy is deplorable, but its structure is such that the Russian economy can be better prepared for solving the problems of a long war than the economy of the West. Still preserved in the Russian Federation resources and the real sector of the economy.
    By the way, the listed factors of superiority of the Russian Federation, such as the possession of strategic resources, look impressive, but until the moment you imagine the possibility of transportation in extreme conditions. In World War I paralysis became a very serious factor that was not overcome.
    Hybrid Warfare Preparedness?
    In fact, in 2014 Ukraine was surrendered almost without a fight and only bridgeheads like the Crimea and New Russia were preserved. They defend effectively .... but nothing more.
    In the Russian Federation itself, it seems that work is underway to counter hybrid aggression ... maybe quite professionally.
    But here is the weak link - the bulk of the population is not involved, although in Syria it can be seen that a massive armed militia in contact with professionals is able to repel terrorists, jihadists and bandits. The siloviki alone will not be able to cope with this ... or they will sell out, as can be seen from the experience of all hybrid wars.
    The Russian Federation will cope with a low level of danger, but not with a high one ... until the people receive weapons in their hands ... and they will have to share and negotiate with such people ...
    Remains operations like the Syrian ... future Afghan, Libyan. Here, due to the concentration of elite forces, success is possible. However, the West has the same situation.

    here https://hippy-end.livejournal.com/1433845.html
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 23 November 2017 15: 53 New
      +1
      You're right! What you quoted not in the eyebrow but in the eye! I’ll add from myself that the people not only do not participate, but also see no reason to participate because they have neither an idea nor a leader, and most importantly, they do not believe those who are the authorities in the Russian Federation.
  23. algonquin
    algonquin 23 November 2017 07: 23 New
    0
    well, everything ever happens for the first time
    It was Russian-Japanese, Crimean - it was with the British and the French, and with the Turks,
    with america was not yet



    interesting remark

    It is noteworthy that the course of discussions at the Paris Congress shows that Russia did not behave like a broken country. For example, the Austrians demanded Bessarabia from Russia, which was followed by a toughreply from the Russian delegate, Count Orlov:

    Mr. Austrian Commissioner does not know what sea of ​​tears and blood such a correction of borders would cost his country.

    The representative of England, Count Claredon, demanded the disarmament of the city of Nikolaev and the destruction of its shipyards in accordance with the peace treaty. However Orlov said that Nikolaev is not on the Black Sea, but on the Bug River, and the terms of the contract do not apply to him. During the negotiations, a question arose regarding Russian forts on the east coast of the Black Sea. Some of them were blown up during the war, and Clarendon stated that forts are, in fact, the same arsenals, only called differently. Consequently, Russia has no right to restore them. Orlov did not agree with him: in his opinion, the fort and the arsenal are two different things.

    whom will we train in the role of Orlov?
  24. tank66
    tank66 23 November 2017 09: 25 New
    +2
    Let me go for a beat. In the courtyard there is unfinished capitalism. Here, for example, Rotenberg Jr. / Igor / the owner of the Tula cartridge factory with his brother and nephews - citizens of Finland, will announce an increase in the selling price / for MO / cartridges. Figley - everything rises in price. The figure for reporting / the volume of production in monetary terms will really grow. Everything will be paid for under closed articles / about 18% / of the budget of the Russian Federation. The question is - how much will he cope with Comrade Putin’s wishes?