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United Aircraft Corporation may become part of Rostec

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A draft presidential decree on the incorporation of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC) into the Rostec state corporation has been prepared, the idea is actively promoted by the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov, reports Kommersant with reference to its sources.




The project deals with the transfer of 91,68% of the corporation's shares in federal ownership, the remaining will retain the previous owners (5,11% belongs to Vnesheconombank, 3,68% - to private shareholders),
told the newspaper one of the interlocutors.

The idea of ​​transferring the KLA to Rostec appeared in March. Then the head of the state corporation, Sergey Chemezov, called this step “expedient,” but “not today.”

This is a good trend, but to say when it will be and whether it will be at all, today is early. Not exactly this year,
said Chemezov.

According to sources, it was approximately then that a detailed study of the issue began, which Manturov took under his personal control.

There are a number of objective reasons for the transfer of UAC shares to Rostec, the publication’s sources are convinced: “For aircraft manufactured at UAC, about 60-70% of components (engines, avionics, electronic warfare, partially armament) are produced by state-owned enterprises”.

Denis Valentinovich (Manturov) is a supporter of the consolidation of sectoral assets. From this point of view, the proposal to collect competencies of collectors and assemblers under the wing of Rostec looks logical.
told a newspaper source in government.

However, there is no single position in the Cabinet yet.

Rostec and the Ministry of Industry and Trade only for, but everyone else is still in doubt. We will still discuss
noted one of the high-ranking officials.

According to him, some cabinet members are convinced that Rostec should focus on existing assets, and the transfer of the KLA will “simply overload” the state corporation (currently Rostec unites more than 700 organizations and enterprises).

There is already a question of responsibility for the fate of the whole aviation industry, not just Russian Helicopters,
the official added, recalling that “about 50% of the annual deliveries through the military-technical cooperation are accounted for by airplanes and helicopters,” and if the UAC joins Rostec, the state corporation “will consolidate the entire export-production potential of the aviation industry, since the conclusion of commercial armory Rosoboronexport, which is part of it, is also involved in MTC contracts.

It is assumed that the final decision on this issue will be taken by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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  1. Sofa General
    Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 27 New
    +8
    If only later Rostec would not be transferred to Rusnano ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 28 New
      11
      it is necessary to blurt out something in the comment about Chubais and Serdyukov and success is guaranteed. By evening, become a colonel, and in the morning already get a Marshal
      1. Sofa General
        Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 32 New
        +5
        From a legal point of view, neither Chubais nor Serdyukov are either thieves or embezzlers ... from a legal point of view, they are the same citizens as we are.
        what other questions will be?
        PS A criminal record cannot be an obstacle to elected posts (if that)
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 33 New
          +2
          From a legal point of view, neither Chubais nor Serdyukov are either thieves or embezzlers ... from a legal point of view, they are the same citizens as we are.
          what other questions will be?


          Are you a prosecutor or investigator, or what side do you feel? Why is this all?

          I like to talk on the Internet on the topic of whom to plant, and whom to have mercy?
          1. Sofa General
            Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 34 New
            +5
            you asked about Chubais and Serdyukov - here, get ...
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 35 New
              0
              already a junior sergeant, look)

              1. Sofa General
                Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 36 New
                +5
                Oh great lieutenant colonel! I am very grateful for the promotion of my rank ...
                You on the topic generally say something, or will we discuss my humble person?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 36 New
                  0
                  and what did you say "on the topic" of all the above comments? Maybe I just didn’t notice?
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 38 New
                    +6
                    I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft with you, so that you would turn to me on “you” ...
                    1. St Petrov
                      St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 39 New
                      +1
                      everything is clear with you and with your "on the subject."

                      When I see a practical thought, then you will get an answer that will begin with "You." It won’t be removed from me if I write “You”; another thing is that not everyone wants to write like that.
                      1. Sofa General
                        Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 49 New
                        +8
                        Petrov ...
                        If the enlargement of one corporation at the expense of another would lead to a reduction in the cost of the bureaucratic apparatus, increase the mobility of production, improve the quality of products and reduce its cost - all would be only "FOR", or, "approvals" ..
                        Now tell me, O Great critic, WHERE will the UAC control apparatus go? Is it really going to disappear or it will become much smaller than the production bureaucracy, production chains will be reduced, marriage will decrease?
                        Actually, it would be possible to end the discussion with you, but let me say: if you don’t understand something, then be guided by the slogan: “It’s not a shame to be a“ teapot, ”it’s a shame to stay with them” (c) Quotation from a series of books "... for Dummies"
                      2. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 22 November 2017 17: 07 New
                        +2
                        Now tell me, O Great critic, WHERE will the UAC control apparatus go? Is it really going to disappear or it will become much smaller than the production bureaucracy, production chains will be reduced, marriage will decrease?


                        Naturally, there will be optimization of both costs and apparatus. For it is logical and objective. And only now "experts" think that nothing is changing.

                        http://rostec.ru/news/4516263

                        Why talk when you can go to the corporation's website and read about optimization and staffing issues. Well, about what you were just guessing at the coffee grounds - will / will not

                        Actually, it would be possible to end the discussion with you, but let me say: if you don’t understand something, then be guided by the slogan: “It’s not a shame to be a“ teapot, ”it’s a shame to stay with them” (c) Quotation from a series of books "... for Dummies"


                        aha) In the same place in the corporation everything is at least dumber than you)

                        Teach them how to work)

                        marriage will decrease


                        I am sure that it will be so after all structural changes have taken place. Rostec shows itself quite well
      2. Monos
        Monos 22 November 2017 16: 36 New
        +5
        It’s better not to put the eggs in one basket, otherwise some kind of “Pavlensky” will come and ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 22 November 2017 17: 52 New
          +1
          I think the opposite. Small firms and molds have both presidents and vice-premiers with their relatives around. "And on the tent" Vegetables "a stretched tarpaulin was yesterday just a shkodnik and now is the PRESIDENT." M. Tanich. What’s the point? must. Let there be one President at the head than a hundred.
          Quote: Monos
          It’s better not to put the eggs in one basket, otherwise some kind of “Pavlensky” will come and ...
          1. Monos
            Monos 22 November 2017 18: 13 New
            +6
            Dmitry, welcome! hi
            There is a limit to controllability at which efficiency decreases. Ministries of the late Union had such a problem. No matter how it happened here.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 22 November 2017 18: 20 New
              +1
              Victor, hi I partially agree. There was a loss of controllability. But I think that it was created not so much as a result of enlargement but was created artificially. Especially in the late USSR. There were an order of magnitude more of these enterprises than now.
              Quote: Monos
              Dmitry, welcome! hi
              There is a limit to controllability at which efficiency decreases. Ministries of the late Union had such a problem. No matter how it happened here.
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 22 November 2017 18: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Monos
          It’s better not to put eggs in one basket,

          And it is right! If I am not mistaken, UVZ and KMZ are already in Rostec and ..... so far neither Armata nor Kurganets, but with the latter, everything is finally interesting. laughing
    2. Burbon
      Burbon 22 November 2017 18: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Sofa General
      If only later Rostec would not be transferred to Rusnano ..

      why? .... it’s easier to put Serdyukov at the head))
    3. japs
      japs 23 November 2017 10: 13 New
      +4
      The main thing is that the shares do not become the property of Lockheed or Boeing. After all, the "effective managers of Russian Helicopters" dream of it?
  2. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 16: 28 New
    +1
    Civil aviation, in the event of such a decision, the full Krydets will come. Goodbye MS-21.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 29 New
      +4
      why do you think so? Rostec drowning projects? As for me, Rostec is a clear good. With it, both planning and logistics and everything else are put together.

      At first, everyone was tearing it up, but now it’s come to an understanding that after a tear and timeline and financing floats and that some central management is needed, without 25 directors for one project
      1. HEATHER
        HEATHER 22 November 2017 16: 36 New
        0
        why do you think so? And what do you think yourself. While not everything is beautiful with us. First, all torn So they answered their own question. hi
        1. 210ox
          210ox 22 November 2017 18: 00 New
          0
          And now they’re taking it? It’s like they’re gathering under one wing.
          Quote: VERESK
          why do you think so? And what do you think yourself. While not everything is beautiful with us. First, all torn So they answered their own question. hi
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 22 November 2017 18: 05 New
          0
          Quote: VERESK
          At first everyone was tearing

          Now tighten.
          Quote: VERESK
          So they answered their own question.
  3. Holoy
    Holoy 22 November 2017 16: 52 New
    +3
    Eh ... how far is it in our military-industrial complex to Order, where talented design engineers cannot go abroad because of Secrecy, and get 20 thousand ... and their Directors cannot be brought in from abroad 20.000.000 .. . even the children steal them ... according to the blat arranged by the heads of economic departments at their own enterprise ...
  4. Topotun
    Topotun 22 November 2017 17: 26 New
    +2
    In fact, it is logical to unite ALL state-owned arms systems manufacturers under one leadership. But only the measure of responsibility should be there, not like Syurdyukov’s .... And yes, if necessary, the transition to wartime rails will still be easier. But the possibility of transition seems to be far from zero.
  5. Sofa General
    Sofa General 22 November 2017 17: 28 New
    +2
    c-t Petrov,
    s. Petrov Today, 17:07
    You are as far from production as "Decembrists from the people" (c)
    But I understand you ...
    Optimism is good, stay as long as possible ...
    PS And by the way, your link is from April 2015 ... Timely, I would even say super relevant ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 November 2017 17: 36 New
      +1
      understand why the main thing - I read pessimists from the moment I got the Internet (about 2000) - but they have not sold the Russian girl yet, they have not gone bankrupt and the industry has not ended either. Although what only I did not read. And how many clowns on this site prophesied death and called for "to do something already!" - ha ha. The revolutionary here the marshal threatened me with a revolution - for in the country it is not life but horror - and where is that marshal in this? Nick has changed a long time and under another whines about fate



      Do you think at least one pessimist from this site will take a look at this chart? Find positive and prerequisites for optimism in it? Well no.

      And I have already read so much pessimistic writings that I relate to it with obvious neglect.

      Because no matter what happens, the pessimist will not notice this point blank. And that’s the rule. Because sad and sob is apparently cool)

      PS And by the way, your link is from April 2015 ... Timely, I would even say super relevant ...


      So what? Need to call there, say so that under the article the date is changed? Or does the meaning somehow change from the read, if it is 2015?

      This is apparently another comment on the case. There the site is regularly updated. At least for the sake of interest, go see what the official source of information from Rostec writes
      1. Sofa General
        Sofa General 22 November 2017 17: 41 New
        +2
        http://www.topneftegaz.ru/news/view/111500
        The link is certainly not "fresh." but any newer than yours from April 2015 ...
        I will quote that you would not look for a long time ...
        “In the first half of the year, Russian industry grew by 0,4% compared with the same period last year. This increase was provided by mining, which increased by 2,6%. And manufacturing decreased by 0,9%."
        That's all you need to know about industry growth ...
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 November 2017 17: 44 New
          0
          That's all you need to know about industry growth ...


          I think about your position, I also found out everything) and you need to look a little wider and take more time periods - in order to draw conclusions about the industry.

          A quarter and a year are obviously not enough here. But to you as a professional, this is understandable, right?)

          1. Sofa General
            Sofa General 22 November 2017 17: 50 New
            +2
            and take longer periods of time - to draw conclusions about industry

            25 years is enough? Since the collapse of the Union - enough? Or take only Putin’s rule since 2000?
            and by the way ... more picture
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 November 2017 17: 54 New
              +1


              it will be fuller and more objective) And if the question of Putin — if you count from his reign — then it’s easier to show where it fell, and not where it increased.

              But such data must be sought. For all the graphs have grown wassat
              1. Sofa General
                Sofa General 22 November 2017 17: 57 New
                +4
                great picture ...
                Growth shows only mining ...
                everything else went into minus ...
                Reforms, reforms ... what else will we reform? Tables for feng shu offices set? Will we change clothes designer for a guide? Will we all dress in uniforms from the glories of Zaitsev or Yudashkin?
                Or like that joke: war is garbage, the main thing is to make maneuvers?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 22 November 2017 17: 58 New
                  0
                  Reforms, reforms ... what else will we reform? Tables for feng shu offices set? Will we change clothes designer for a guide? Will we all dress in uniforms from the glories of Zaitsev or Yudashkin?


                  let's finish the discussion?) I understood everything regarding your writings)

                  it’s better to tell jokes. but this is my, of course, subjective opinion

                  Growth shows only mining ...
                  everything else went into minus ...


                  only the gifted will compare the USSR (not even the RSFSR) in terms of power and the Russian Federation and make surprised eyes)
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 22 November 2017 18: 31 New
                    +1
                    let's finish ...
                    regarding your “cheers-patriotism” and “approval” of everything that comes “from above”, I also understood everything.
  6. 34 region
    34 region 22 November 2017 17: 34 New
    0
    ***, and the transfer of the UAC “will simply overload” the state corporation *** Well, yes! Overload !? International companies absorb and merge and no overload. There probably is a question, but what will specific individuals have from this? That is, again a matter of personal financial interest, and not the interests of the case. But for the interests of the case, consolidation and unity of command are probably better, as in the army. For in another case there will be a swan, a cancer and a pike that will move their interests, and not the interests of the case. Let's see what outweighs.
  7. Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 November 2017 18: 00 New
    +1
    After the incorporation of the UVZ into Rostec, in some workshops the wages of workers fell by 2 times. It remains only to pray that effective managers do not optimize the aircraft factories so that we are left without new aviation.
  8. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 22 November 2017 19: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Sofa General
    PS A criminal record cannot be an obstacle to elected posts (if that)

    Maybe, by law, a convicted person cannot:
    1) to be elected chairman of the housing department;
    2) be elected president of Russia (as convicted Bulk).