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OSCE: Armored Vehicles Left Donetsk for Lugansk

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The patrol of the special monitoring mission of the OSCE recorded a convoy of armored vehicles moving from Donetsk in the direction of Lugansk. This is reported on the mission page on Facebook.


The OSCE SMM patrol counted at least six military-type trucks, two armored personnel carriers, one ZU-23 anti-aircraft gun, and more than 20 civilian vehicles without license plates at least with 50 armed persons on the highway near Debaltseve (part of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic).

OSCE: Armored Vehicles Left Donetsk for Lugansk


It is emphasized that, presumably, the same column was fixed by another patrol near the village of Veselaya Tarasovka in 15 kilometers from Lugansk.

On the night of November 22, a video of an unknown column of military equipment was posted on the social network VKontakte in the community “The Other Lugansk”. It was reported that she was traveling from the side of Donetsk.

At the same time, a video message from Dmitry Pindyurin, commander of the Brianka Lugansk militia “Bryanka” (call sign “Fierce”), appeared on the network on behalf of his unit to Alexander Zakharchenko and the residents of Donbass to unite the People's Republic.

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  1. Kelevro
    Kelevro 22 November 2017 14: 34 New
    +7
    What happens there is not clear. But something went wrong. Oh, as it were, those who were very well taken advantage of it.
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 22 November 2017 14: 36 New
      +1
      reasoned appeal, you will not say anything
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 22 November 2017 14: 43 New
        29
        to unite - not to disconnect. that’s the whole argument. I think it's time

        It would also be nice to wake up with the Republic of Belarus and find out that there are no more borders between our states, and the Republic of Belarus has become part of the Russian Federation. The Armed Forces of Belarus came under the control of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the border guards came under the control of the FSB, and Lukashenko became the head of the region of the Russian Federation and abolished its ministries, for the sake of economy.

        already lived all separately. Nothing good came of it. Kiselnoy shores did not come with the independence, and guano climbed out.

        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 22 November 2017 14: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: c-Petrov
          .... and abolished its ministries, for the sake of economy.



          We have each region has its own ministries and governments .... why would the Old Man will abolish? request
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 22 November 2017 14: 53 New
            +8
            why do we need two Foreign Ministries, two Armed Forces structures, duplication of border guards and so on. Work for work?

            So Lukashenko does not have enough money, then the apparatus is like in a full-fledged state, and there are fewer residents than in Moscow, and half of them left for work in Russia.

            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 22 November 2017 14: 58 New
              +2
              I mean, no one will give up their privileges ... and fatherless ministers including ... as well as our Russian regional governments, ministries, deputies and other mischief
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 22 November 2017 14: 59 New
                +3
                for such refuseniks there are punitive bodies that pose a fact.

                But Plotnitsky seems to have already been delivered. They put the head of Makhachkala, what can I say, and there the special operation was more serious, and the helicopters and “A” and “B” landed. And the armored vehicles were
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 22 November 2017 15: 01 New
                  +3
                  It would be nice if these punishers walked through the regions and regions of Russia, more precisely, according to the leadership ...
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 15: 05 New
                    +5
                    The special forces of the FSB of Russia, who had arrived in the republic the day before, took the residence of the head of the district into a triple ring - and after his guards and then the local police tried to prevent Vinogradov from being detained, they were “neutralized” and “disarmed”, and the head of the district was detained by officers of the UK . At the same time, he resisted - as a result he received "minor injuries." The head of the district was taken by helicopter to Mozdok in North Ossetia, and from there they were transported to Moscow.


                    after that there is a chain of dismantling clan lawlessness


                    There, the same FSB special forces blocked the house of the former head of the same Kizlyar district, Sagid Murtazaliev - armored vehicles blocked all the entrances to the residence. At first there were reports that Murtazaliyev’s guards barricaded themselves in the house with weapons and did not let the special forces in, but then there were reports that searches were being carried out in all his houses. Murtazaliev himself is hiding - presumably he is in Dubai


                    work goes on even in the most problematic areas. The center keeps everything under control. Everyone will wait in the wings. And the turn will reach the heads of villages and small towns. In Dagestan, the whole movement began only in the year 15
        2. Ronald Reagan
          Ronald Reagan 22 November 2017 15: 07 New
          +4
          Roll your lip.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 22 November 2017 15: 08 New
            14
            Roll your lip.


            will you continue to live in an independent RB?)

            I’m afraid if you can really arrange Independence in the Republic of Belarus, you’ll cook boots for lunch, and Lukashenko will wear forks in villages

            Your entire economy and country rests on subsidies from Moscow. This is a fact and I don’t understand why Moscow needs it in such a dangerous period of time.
            1. Ronald Reagan
              Ronald Reagan 22 November 2017 15: 11 New
              +4
              Don’t get personal, I’m not your drinking companion.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 22 November 2017 15: 12 New
                +3
                come on? what you think and write. and I will laugh at your thoughts about independence.

                It will immediately become clear which of us is abusing alcohol.

                I don’t have any drinking buddies at all. wink
                1. novel66
                  novel66 22 November 2017 15: 28 New
                  +8
                  drunkenness alone - somehow not in Russian lol
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 15: 49 New
                    +2
                    this disease has bypassed. enough examples. God willing and will continue to be so.

                    Alcohol is a legitimate evil. And for a holiday, and drinking buddies are not needed, enough father-in-law. But fishing is not necessary for drinking companions, but comrades

                    A neighbor is looking for a drinking buddy every evening, meeting everyone from work on a bench at the entrance with a chakushka and offering to be a "drinking buddy." As for me dubious pleasure

                    In fact, I always like discussions about the independence of Belarus and Ukraine. I would debate listening to the arguments

                    After all, there were advocates of the independence of this person who like - they probably have their own opinion, but something is not heard
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 22 November 2017 17: 57 New
                      +3
                      colleague, your position is respectful hi
                    2. igorka357
                      igorka357 23 November 2017 06: 04 New
                      0
                      Yes, there are a lot of champions from him, including in VO, including our mother in our Motherland! These pyatosolonniks, white-footed marshes, marshes
                      lionnikov laughing enough everywhere!
                  2. LSA57
                    LSA57 22 November 2017 21: 18 New
                    +3
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    drunkenness alone - somehow not in Russian

                    and the bastard? and dope dopit and escho run away? laughing
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 23 November 2017 07: 33 New
                      +3
                      Well, why do you have to fight right away - but to talk sincerely, so that they understand you?
                2. Black5Raven
                  Black5Raven 22 November 2017 21: 47 New
                  +2
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  and I will laugh at your thoughts about independence.

                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  come on?

                  Understand your problems with the "connectors" first. The borders with the SA are like a sieve, illegal immigrants from there are a dime a dozen, tame your own Dzhigits, who have been shooting guards for so many years, take care of your own medicine and HIV epidemic in a number of areas, and "safe" and silent ruthenic rains and others.
                  There are no problems, did the strangers decide to load up?
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 22: 18 New
                    +4
                    There are no problems, did the strangers decide to load up?


                    don't you understand what i'm writing about? We specifically (citizens of the Russian Federation) your problems and at my expense including, already solve all your years of independence

                    your well-being is a merit of the Russian Federation, not a resident of Lukashenko.

                    Your safety is provided by Russia. Pension payments to your retired parents and social programs are subsidized by Russia.

                    Russia sells you oil that you process at its refineries at such a price that you stay afloat and earn money, not at the market price

                    Your country takes a loan and owes money. Of Russia. IMF and God knows who else. And if you leave it like that, then it doesn’t suit me like that. I mean assistance to the independent state of Belarus

                    And to subsidize one more of many regions of the Russian Federation - that’s how it's worth it for me.
                    1. Black5Raven
                      Black5Raven 24 November 2017 23: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: s-t Petrov
                      your well-being is a merit of the Russian Federation

                      Thank God for such guardians, in Africa they feed the hungry, forgive debts, and the poor Belarusians are kept. It would be like living without you. Probably would have worked, what a shame. And so we sit on the stove, but as the Caucasians are upholstered at border crossings.

                      Quote: s-t Petrov
                      Your safety is provided by Russia

                      The State Department would immediately come. I wonder how others survive sometimes without such a protector of the benefactor.


                      Quote: s-t Petrov
                      not at market price

                      Sell ​​at the market, it’s high time to wean the “Old Man” from his last manna from heaven.
                      Quote: s-t Petrov
                      Byelorussia

                      Belarus
                      Quote: s-t Petrov
                      And to subsidize one more of many regions of the Russian Federation - that’s how it's worth it for me.

                      Subscribe better than your Caucasians and other regions.
            2. alexhol
              alexhol 22 November 2017 20: 06 New
              +1
              Do not understand why? Not surprised. Here on the forum half, to put it mildly, "thinking tightly."
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 22 November 2017 21: 12 New
                +1
                Yes. I want to hear why. So I asked. Whose is I immediately tight? I can shit about this shit filigree, but I try to keep myself within the framework of an adequate conversation.

                Well, the truth to the clowns I can’t work out calm. Very often they irritate their writings with n * readers. (it’s funny that the word is in the block, like it’s not obscene and not offensive wassat probably the Illuminati tried)

                But I think you are not one of them, so tell me why you (Belarusians) need an open space with accessible words to understand this miracle)
                1. alexhol
                  alexhol 22 November 2017 22: 16 New
                  +1
                  It is unlikely that I can explain if you were not in my country, but in a nutshell, then ... on your "avatar" Stalin, who has been so popular lately in Russia, but whose cult is absolutely not in demand with us. And here it is not necessary to look for reasons in the past, although collectivization is still remembered here. The answer is in the present tense.
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 22 November 2017 22: 24 New
                    +1
                    then give up everything that the Russian Federation gives you. Like hahly. And then you look - how exactly did you, with your whim, serve your People and look at how your country went bankrupt, went bankrupt and sold everything that you carefully kept all these years through subsidies from the Russian Federation)

                    If you can be independent, prove it. And then everyone has been waiting for your economic miracle for 25 years.

                    Do you think it will come?

                    1. alexhol
                      alexhol 22 November 2017 22: 39 New
                      +1
                      Last year, rested in Truskavets. I went by train (and then the "Bandeovites" will take away the car request ) I was pleasantly surprised by the attitude of the Russian-speaking self. Of course they live poorly, they criticize the authorities, they envy the Belarusians, but no one wants to return to the USSR!
                      1. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 22 November 2017 23: 03 New
                        +2
                        You are not far away
                      2. the lord
                        the lord 23 November 2017 01: 31 New
                        0
                        They don’t want to return to the USSR far away. You will have to go through this, have so many stares to pin the door so that you don’t get up on someone else’s, it’s easier to rot under the fence)))
              2. igorka357
                igorka357 23 November 2017 06: 08 New
                0
                Well, where is your answer .. or are you so easy to crack?
        3. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 23 November 2017 00: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          It would also be nice to wake up with Belarus and find out that there are no more borders between our states

          So this border is not there, if suddenly you are not up to date
          Rather, border crossings equipped on the Russian side
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 23 November 2017 10: 11 New
            0
            there is a border. how equipped - question ten
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 23 November 2017 14: 38 New
              0
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              there is a border.

              only on your part
              so address your questions why do you need it, since you so dream of abolishing it
              And on the AHL, about the presence of the border, a loaf can crumble only a narrow-minded person.
        4. igorka357
          igorka357 23 November 2017 05: 58 New
          0
          Old Man is a king, he will never agree to this! Most of the people would be glad and would have been ... yes "WOULD" interfere!
      2. Kelevro
        Kelevro 22 November 2017 14: 47 New
        +1
        In the absence of reliable information, I think said reasonably. However, this inter-community can be very useful to various services that use such cases for their own purposes. And very skillfully. And these services are clearly not ours.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 22 November 2017 16: 22 New
          +3
          Konstantin Dolgov:

          According to the latest information, Plotnitsky still failed to travel to the territory of the Russian Federation. Some circumstances prevented (let us call them that).
          Our source in the LPR reports that the Raft was hiding in the very basement in which Gennady Tsypkalov supposedly committed suicide (I recalled a joke: karma does not exist, but it works). Together with him - the wife and head of his administration, Teitzman.
          The LNR Prosecutor General, an associate of Raft, barricaded himself in the building, does not let women go, handed out weapons to everyone, even the second group of invalids who open the barrier.
          In the next few minutes, there will be a statement by Cornet on the situation as a whole. Https: //cont.ws/@chervonec001/775391
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 22 November 2017 16: 44 New
            +1
            head of his administration Teitzman.


            it always surprised)
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 November 2017 14: 37 New
      +7
      They are slowly starting to acquaint us with a fait accompli: the leadership has changed in the LPR. But they haven’t talked about it openly yet. I think soon everything will become clear.
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    3. Monos
      Monos 22 November 2017 14: 39 New
      14
      I don’t know what is going on there, but I must say that the movement began after the GDP talked with Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky on the phone.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 22 November 2017 14: 46 New
        +8
        Plotnitsky, with guards, spouse and head of administration Irina Taitsman, accused of treason, is in the basement of the building, from where she is trying to control.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 November 2017 14: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Plotnitsky, with guards, spouse and head of administration Irina Taitsman, accused of treason, is in the basement of the building, from where she is trying to control.

          and egg laying there?
  2. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 November 2017 14: 35 New
    +5
    The OSCE doesn’t notice. By the way, in the convoy there were launchers with BR Sarmat and a hundred tanks based on Armata. Not counting 100 launchers with calibers. laughing Why not fined for lack of license plates?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 November 2017 14: 40 New
      10
      Armata does not have a turn signal! And the wipers do not work on the PU!
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 22 November 2017 14: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: VERESK
      Why not fined for lack of license plates?

      Yes, they forgot in Syria. there was no time
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 22 November 2017 14: 35 New
    19
    It's time to unite! "Together - we are force !"
    1. jjj
      jjj 22 November 2017 14: 37 New
      +6
      Apparently, the time has really come
    2. Jedi
      Jedi 22 November 2017 14: 39 New
      +5
      Volodya, hello! hi
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      It's time to unite!

      To someone in the village of Kukuyevo this union will become a slate nail in all places. lol And rightly so! good
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 22 November 2017 14: 48 New
        13
        Hi, Max ! hi It got to the point of absurdity - customs between the DPR and LDR!
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 22 November 2017 14: 52 New
          14
          The more distinctions between the LPR and the DPR, the higher jump in Kiev. negative
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 22 November 2017 16: 40 New
            +1
            Divide et impera is a wise, dastardly rule, it is easier to control, lead, manage singles than a team ...
            Actual for both enemies and "friends", and for an unfavorable situation ...
            There are wise advisers in the Kremlin.
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 22 November 2017 14: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Jedi
        To someone in the village of Kukuyevo this union will become a slate nail in all places.

        small. dowels need
  4. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 22 November 2017 14: 36 New
    +1
    Armored vehicles left Donetsk for Lugansk

    They are going to suppress the Lugansk Maidan. Hold on, Carpenter, we are with you!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 November 2017 14: 47 New
      13
      Well, you should not expect other comments.

      Truly, you do not have to disconnect from the air, but rather give you the floor and everything becomes clear without these verbal battles

    2. Burbon
      Burbon 22 November 2017 14: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Young_Communist
      They are going to suppress the Lugansk Maidan. Hold on, Carpenter, we are with you!

      are going to catch the Roach and mishandled Cossacks - hold on Zakhar, you and I!
      1. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 22 November 2017 16: 20 New
        +2
        The witcher won't let you catch your horse
  5. VadimSt
    VadimSt 22 November 2017 14: 37 New
    +5
    Yes, those who come to help protect the Republic at one time, but having gotten closer to the leadership position, moved to the DPR - after the time of scattering of stones, it’s time to collect stones.
  6. Pax tecum
    Pax tecum 22 November 2017 14: 38 New
    12
    It would be very cool if the idea of ​​New Russia, all the same, began to be practically realized even against the will of the Kremlin.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 November 2017 15: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: Pax tecum
      contrary to the will of the Kremlin.

      contrary to the will of the Kremlin, change the profile picture. Parashkin put another on you.
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 22 November 2017 15: 44 New
        +5
        And, do you even take the UN peacekeeping force from the Beret of the Russian Airborne Forces?
        Shame on you!
        And what do you dislike about the phrase “the will of the Kremlin”? Or do you have other reliable information about who slowed down the creation of a new Russian state formation and does not recognize the existing territories, although in some cases it recognizes immediately, as in Transcaucasia, for example? No goal, no result ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 November 2017 15: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Pax tecum
          And, you generally take the UN peacekeeping force from the Beret Airborne of Russia distinguish

          peacemaker ????? tell Petsu to Syria !!!!
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 22 November 2017 15: 58 New
            +5
            Well, I really had something to do with the UN in 1990, and who is the “finger” and why should I tell him something, and why to Syria?
            And, you have trouble with the moral and psychological state, judging by the screaming comments that are off topic :-)
            What, even the city of residence was afraid to indicate, Seryozha?
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 22 November 2017 16: 23 New
              +3
              Quote: Pax tecum
              Well, I really had something to do with the UN in the 1990s

              myself? or "by the will of the Kremlin"? regret it
              Quote: Pax tecum
              Ah, you have trouble with the moral and psychological state, judging by the shrill

              peacemaker, or "psychotherapist" recourse
              Yes, the rumor is "absolute." screech hear around ...
              Quote: Pax tecum
              What, even the city of residence was afraid to indicate, Seryozha?

              THE USSR. Russia. Well, if visiting, write in a personal. mnu by the way, well, no matter how he doesn’t hesitate in which City you are talking nonsense !!!!
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 23 November 2017 06: 12 New
            0
            Sorry, but you made a fool of yourself!
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 November 2017 15: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Pax tecum
      It would be very cool if the idea of ​​New Russia, all the same, began to be practically realized even against the will of the Kremlin.

      What a familiar phrase - Not thanks, but contrary! © smile
  7. Roust
    Roust 22 November 2017 14: 39 New
    +4
    It is high time to unite and recognize, and then to us, home, to Russia.
  8. K-50
    K-50 22 November 2017 14: 48 New
    +5
    Honestly, I don’t know why Lugansk and Donetsk still have not united under a single sane leadership. Together, it would be much easier to solve all the problems facing the young republics, both military and civilian. Apparently there are so many people who want to “steer” that they can’t agree among themselves. Such fragmentation is only in the hands of the authorities of the ukrovermaht and pin to snikam.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 November 2017 14: 52 New
      +4
      Honestly, I don’t know why Lugansk and Donetsk still have not united under a single sane leadership.


      the essence of man. sins. control. neither Lukashenko nor Plotnitsky wants to share power. Kadyrov (and this is the Caucasus) stepped on his throat, thinking about his people and nevertheless took the right step, and this at least into the eyes of the ssy.

      it seems so to me
      1. alexhol
        alexhol 22 November 2017 20: 08 New
        0
        Why are you so clinging to our Old Man? I do not want to live in a "communal" with eternal srach.
        1. the lord
          the lord 23 November 2017 01: 40 New
          0
          You don’t want to, but you have to; in such cases, they do not ask the sole persons. The voice of a unit is thinner than a squeak ....
          By the way, a poster with a map of Poland, including Lithuania and Belarus, was hung out in Warsaw ... This is a word about non-fallow lands. So I recall the Chinese film "Hero", where the assassins from the principality of Jao refuse to take revenge on the ruler of Qing, so that hostility in the seven principalities ceased and the association "Under One Sky" took place.
          1. alexhol
            alexhol 23 November 2017 10: 15 New
            -2
            Don’t worry, I'm a Pole by nationality laughingbut I’m a patriot of my state -
            The Republic of Belarus. Belarusians are not Crimeans, they will not be retired. Both Russian and Polish, and dugouts in the woods are still not quite overgrown.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 23 November 2017 10: 23 New
              0
              you're just a circus actor. Offended by the mind and logic. On the fingers, I explained everything above.
              I hope the Russian Federation will cease to subsidize your independence

              As an example, the Kremlin’s press service cited the allocation to Minsk of over $ 6 billion of loans in various directions and the annual duty-free oil supplies from 2011 to 2015 in the amount of 18 million to 23 million tons. “In total, our Russian budget during this period received less than $ 22,3. XNUMX billion. All this is nothing more than direct and indirect support of our union Belarusian state, ”the statement said.


              what an actor is such an independence. You will bliss and dream of independence when you learn to earn money and pay debts

              And while you owe, your thoughts and conjectures do not ... concern anyone. Nezalezhnik - rub in your face. Such nezalezhnikov-beggars in someone else’s pocket hanging I've seen in my life

              also grimaces. You are not a patriot - you are an enemy of your state. And stupidity here is not otmazatsya. You are really big

              Belarusians are not Crimeans, they will not be retired.


              therefore, take away the pension from your parents in full in the Russian Federation. Verbiage, not responsible for his words and living in parallel reality
              1. alexhol
                alexhol 23 November 2017 21: 28 New
                -2
                In parallel reality, there are such clowns on motorcycles, such as you, who dream of "picking up and sharing." Only this year I bought four trucks at Russian factories, I am silent about the goods of large wholesale Moscow intermediary companies. (although just today equipment was installed that was bought in Moscow. but manufactured in China). So, what about retiring to you. at the expense of taxes of your firms, it turns out that I earn.
                I have several people working, plus subcontractors. Our taxes are paid regularly (whoever does not pay is serving a sentence - this is strictly with us). So my taxes are enough for retirement not only for my parents. Who are you? A public sector employee looking at the mouth? Or are you an unemployed loser who lives with your mother? Remember, a motorcyclist, if the leaders of the states agreed on such preferences (tax benefits). it means it is beneficial for both countries. By the way, do you have a normal bike?
            2. the lord
              the lord 27 November 2017 02: 12 New
              0
              I’m like a Pole by nationality, but a patriot of my own country, as well as a supporter of pan-Slavism, I propose not to lead stupid bazaars for Belarusians. They don’t have to retire, it’s more important for them to remain Belarusians, as in the past the Poles remained Poles in the Principality of Warsaw, and not like their fellow tribesmen from the occupation zones of Prussia and Austria. And this is possible only in one country with the Russians, and nothing else.
              And about the dugouts in the forest, they are obsolete citizen of Zmagar, oh how old. Any zmagarysh while sweating and stinks alive, on these grounds and will find to comply with sanitary standards))))))
        2. tolmachiev51
          tolmachiev51 23 November 2017 05: 21 New
          0
          Don’t pay attention, the “comrades” builders of communism all over the world haven’t yet transferred to us !!!
          1. the lord
            the lord 27 November 2017 02: 16 New
            0
            And don’t hope, they won’t be translated. The production of weapons of mass destruction is getting cheaper in the world and the population is growing. That is why many who are brought up on the principles of fierce competition will have a desire to clean up the excess. Which ultimately leads to the end of human history. Only the principles underlying the ideology of communism will be able for the Danes extra time to go beyond the planet and beyond.
        3. igorka357
          igorka357 23 November 2017 06: 15 New
          0
          Yes, not to your dad, but to the Russian money that your dad is bargaining with Russia, I would even say blackmailing!
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 22 November 2017 15: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      Honestly, I don’t know why Lugansk and Donetsk still have not united under a single sane leadership

      Well, who will share power there?
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    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 November 2017 15: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      Honestly, I don’t know why Lugansk and Donetsk still have not united under a single sane leadership.

      Because each side has its own opinion - who will be this sane leadership. smile
  9. win9090
    win9090 22 November 2017 14: 51 New
    +2
    All ended people's republics
    1. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 22 November 2017 14: 58 New
      +2
      The topic will be closed before the presidential election.
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 22 November 2017 14: 57 New
    +9
    It is high time to unite in a single republic and move on the path to Russia.
  11. tank64rus
    tank64rus 22 November 2017 15: 01 New
    0
    It is high time to unite under the guidance of the one whom the people believe.
    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 22 November 2017 16: 29 New
      +5
      And to whom did the people believe? Brain, Dremov?
      All odious leaders were removed ... the survivors remained ...
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 23 November 2017 06: 18 New
        0
        Mozgovoy and Dremov, of course, were wars, but with a bias towards Makhnovshchina, and only their subordinates believed them, regarding Mozgovoy read the ammunition affairs .. I’ll think it will be very interesting to you that Mozgovoy was odious! And on Zakharchenko’s account, he’s not at all a survivor ..on he crawled under bullets, and participated in battles, but Plotnitsky, here maybe you are right!
  12. next322
    next322 22 November 2017 15: 01 New
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    strange dances in the Donbass for 2 days ....... the impression is sad ..... Surkov no longer control the situation? But what about a call to a client, a call to a report?
  13. Ural resident
    Ural resident 22 November 2017 15: 02 New
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    the OSCE has turned on
  14. Sofa General
    Sofa General 22 November 2017 15: 44 New
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRV7ShdS5Z8

    They thought for a long time.
  15. BAI
    BAI 22 November 2017 16: 02 New
    +2
    For some reason, this OSCE mission does not report anything about the movements of Ukrainian military equipment. Spy in favor of Ukraine and are not shy.
  16. anjey
    anjey 22 November 2017 16: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Pax tecum
    It would be very cool if the idea of ​​New Russia, all the same, began to be practically realized even against the will of the Kremlin.

    I wanted to, but the fiction in the next department, and the oligarchs are now leading the war, where the poor people make their way, sell themselves to the devil, the US State Department, like on the Maidan in Kiev even worse evil betrayal, it turns out for the people, at least pamper oligarchs will take power .... they have not yet brought the people to grips, there is no such situation as in 1917 ...
    1. anjey
      anjey 23 November 2017 06: 20 New
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      it's about New Russia as a people's republic and not just united ... there were such ideas among the people ... immediately, for some reason, Mozgova remembered ....
  17. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 November 2017 17: 42 New
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    There was still no civil strife.
  18. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 22 November 2017 18: 03 New
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    I can be mistaken, but it seems that after the resolution of the problem in Syria, the turn of educating myobules comes. Moreover, from the "indicative flogging" section. Stopping the problem of butting within the LPR, consolidation - this is like defrosting New Russia.
    The indirect fact is most indicative in my opinion: everyone was surprised by the sudden creation of a "government in exile" by the former regionals. These experienced functionaries seem to have received information about the adoption of certain decisions in the Kremlin, and decided to hop on the outgoing train. But it seems to me that they are counting in vain smile
  19. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 22 November 2017 18: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    There was still no civil strife.

    Well, Russia also went through internecine strife at the time of formation, I hope Novorossia will also go through this and gain strength in unification, burying this absurdity from 2 republics. And there are always a lot of people who want to steer, and we have a damn ... the presidents are nominated, we will grind them too.
  20. DPN
    DPN 22 November 2017 18: 46 New
    +1
    These regional centers will no longer return their territory, Ukraine will not allow it, in short they missed the time, she managed to restore her army. The population probably in these republics is already tired of wartime, it is time for them to unite otherwise they will simply be starved.
    This is only the beginning, it will be worse if they do not unite.
    1. GUSAR
      GUSAR 22 November 2017 19: 20 New
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      Well, they didn’t miss the republics, but those who were above them ...
  21. Sergey53
    Sergey53 22 November 2017 20: 41 New
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    In terms of unification in New Russia, Plotnitsky is a weak link. He naturally does not want his abolition, just like Lukashenko at home. He can talk about a single state, but no more. But "Fierce" is immediately evident, the blanket is not pulling itself.
  22. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 23 November 2017 05: 51 New
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    The strange position of Moscow is alarming, regarding the republics, they are waiting for something !!! ???
  23. alexhol
    alexhol 23 November 2017 09: 16 New
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    the lord,
    In the news I saw a guy in Smolensk in a hospital in the emergency room "bent over". So you bring order to yourself first, and then combine, collect ...
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 24 November 2017 23: 58 New
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      And leaving this "imperialist" habits, you would be treated better. Indeed, according to many inhabitants of VO, neither Ukrainians, nor Belarusians and others did exist as nations, they have no culture, the right to their own language, state and history - all this was invented by the "evil elite tearing them away from Russia."

      Quote: alexhol
      In the news I saw a guy in Smolensk in a hospital in the emergency room "bent over"

      After a whole hour of walking with the child’s head in Moscow, there should be no surprise.