Erdogan: the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh can be resolved by Russia and Vladimir Putin

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, speaking at the 32 session of the Standing Committee of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Economic and Trade Issues, made a statement concerning the settlement of the crisis in Nagorno-Karabakh. According to Erdogan, the crisis could be resolved by the Russian Federation, which has influence and respect in both Armenia and Azerbaijan.

Turkish News Agency Anadolu leads Erdogan's statement:

The force that can resolve the conflict in the region is Russia and President Vladimir Putin personally.

According to the President of Turkey, he will raise the issue of the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict during a trilateral meeting in Sochi. Recall that in addition to Erdogan and Putin, the President of Iran Rouhani will be present at the meeting.

At the same time, Erdogan explained what position on the issue of conflict he himself advocates:

I think a more scrupulous approach is needed to the topic of returning the five occupied areas to Azerbaijan, because almost 30 years have passed since the beginning of the conflict. In this regard, we expect Russia to pay special attention.

The main topic of discussion in Sochi is the question of the beginning of a political settlement in Syria. That is how the meeting of the leaders of the three countries is positioned in the Kremlin.

Comments

[Monos]

Putin, of course, can ... But for this, you will have to return Armenia and Azerbaijan back.

[Yujanin.]

will have to return Armenia and Azerbaijan back.

Do you need it?

[Monos]

Quote: Yujanin.

Do you need it?

Not sure.

[HEATHER]

Everything Russia must decide. And the republics themselves can’t agree. Negotiate already. Enough war. Open the borders and just live together. As long as the neighbors in the communal apartment. Enough already.

[Volodin]

Well, they themselves "returned": almost half of the population of Armenia and Azerbaijan, and so in Russia ...

[HEATHER]

Politicians. Buy their mosquito!

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Yujanin.

Do you need it?

The unworthy voice of a free democratic Azerbaijan?

[Yujanin.]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

the voice of free democratic Azerbaijan?

Do you think there is something to learn from you?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Yujanin.

Do you think there is something to learn from you?

But will the proud son of Great Azerbaijan learn from some despicable Russians there?

[Yujanin.]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

But will the proud son of Great Azerbaijan learn from some despicable Russians there?

Where did the phrase "despicable Russian" dug up? Looks like they heard a lot of Armenian radio.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Yujanin.

Where did the phrase "despicable Russian" dug up? Looks like they heard a lot of Armenian radio.

I do not listen to either Armenian or Azerbaijani radio and do not know both languages. But I know what rake running is. And I see that both sides have not yet run over them. And I do not care what your nationalistic ambitions and other children's vagaries and Wishlist are there. If you are great Azerbaijanis and Great Armenians want to kill each other, kill yourself, your right, only so that Russia does not suffer any harm. And when the most aggressive and stupid mutually annihilate, I hope Azerbaijan and Armenia will return to a single state with Russia.

[Sauron80]

To paraphrase a children's song:

Putin can, Putin can do anything
Swim, argue with bass, chop wood ...

And further in the text))

[xetai9977]

"will have to return Armenia and Azerbaijan back"
A throat does not get stuck? It seems to me that Erdogan, as a statesman, diplomatically hinted that Russia, if she wants to resolve the conflict, will simply leave the Armenians without her support in the occupation of Azerbaijani lands and immediately settle down. The keyword is "if you want to resolve the conflict." Who is behind whom in this conflict is an open secret for everyone, except for especially stubborn users of the site, and that is far from a fact. Most likely they are well aware. what yes how, but admitting to it somehow is not dumb.

[Monos]

Quote: xetai9977

Who is behind whom in this conflict is an open secret

No other comment was expected from Azerbaijan. I am deeply parallel to what is happening there. I relate equally to the Armenians and to you. But, it seems to me, the Armenians have already pushed you without any support from the outside and will still poke if Russia, as mad dogs, will not keep you in different enclosures.

[FLOOD]

Well, here we are also somehow deeply perpendicular to who is there and who is behind it. Here we also relate exactly the same to the Armenians and to you. And whoever pushed someone, Duc is the whole world in the know. And despite the fact that they stick (that is, stick) not only in the Caucasus, but also in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, etc. But the fact is that the poke will soon break in the lock and you will have to change the lock.

[Monos]

Quote: TUFAN

the fact is that the poke will soon break in the lock and you will have to change the lock.

Do you understand what you said?

Quote: TUFAN

And whoever pushed someone, Duc is the whole world in the know.

Enchanting. "Who's talking? - Everyone's talking."

Quote: TUFAN

as well as in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova

"And what does Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova have to do with it? - Well, oo-oo ... I ... are not strong in geography. I know which cities I listed."
My dear, do you somehow get out of the village, look at the world. You learn a lot for yourself.

[purple]

Quote: Monos

My dear, do you somehow get out of the village, look at the world. You learn a lot for yourself. smile

The most interesting thing is that they live for the fact that they were built by the Russians in the USSR ... But there is no gratitude ... it should be shame

[Monos]

Quote: purple

The most interesting thing is that they live for even the fact that they were built by the Russians in the USSR ..

Do not be offended, but here you are not quite right. They have a centuries-old history, and Nobili and the Rothschilds still produced oil under the Empire.

[purple]

Quote: Monos

Do not be offended, but here you are not quite right. They have a centuries-old history, and Nobili and the Rothschilds still produced oil under the Empire. hi

I am not offended, and I know very well that even before the revolution, oil was extracted there. And the current infrastructure that came from the USSR doesn’t mean anything to you?
And I know perfectly well the Azerbaijanis as a people of merchants ... only to weigh or short-circuit in the market, or slip a sub-standard.
Personally, I did not come across worthy representatives of this nation with a "centuries-old" history

[Monos]

Quote: purple

Personally, I did not come across worthy representatives of this nation with a "centuries-old" history

Lutfi Zadeh is a mathematician, the author of the term “fuzzy logic” and one of the founders of the theory of fuzzy sets.
Ayyub Guliyev Salah oglu - Azerbaijani scientist, specialist in comets, doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, professor
Aslanov Azi Agadovich - Soviet military leader, Guard Major General, twice Hero of the Soviet Union.
Seyyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei is the supreme religious leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Muslim Magomaev
You are just out of luck.

[purple]

well, I forgot about Zadeh ... although his mother is Feiga (Fanya) Moiseevna Korenman
Aslanov Azi Agadovich - Soviet military leader, Guard Major General, twice Hero of the Soviet Union. worthy person

Ayyub Guliyev Salah oglu - Azerbaijani scientist, specialist in comets, doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, professor I don’t know, I don’t know .... I don’t believe.

Magomayev ... (Muslim Magomayev wrote about her mother’s origin that she was born in Maykop, her father was Turkish by nationality, and her mother was half Adyghe, half Russian. He said about his father’s origin that his mother was Tatar)
well, such an Azerbaijani ... well, finally ...

and this is all chtoli ??? do others trade in the markets?

[Monos]

Quote: purple

I don’t know, I don’t know .... I don’t believe it.

And in vain. My father had a friend, an Azerbaijani, also a professor. An Azerbaijani studied with me on the course. I do not know his fate, but he became an engineer-physicist-researcher.

[genisis]

And when is Azi Aslanov - Talysh by nationality, became Azerbaijani?
Ali Khamenei is definitely not Azerbaijani)) Or do you mean that Azerbaijanis are Turks living in Iran?
Lezgins, Avars, Tats, Talyshs, Tsukhurs, Rutuls live in Azerbaijan, except for a diverse tribal conglomerate of Turks.
Why, for example, are the Lezghins and Avars living in the Republic of Dagestan of the Russian Federation considered Lezghins and Avars, and in Azerbaijan they immediately become Azerbaijanis? There are even such collisions that one brother living in Russia is Lezgin, and the second living in Azerbaijan is Azerbaijani.
So people become Azerbaijanis who have nothing to do with the Turkic tribes. Like the same Asi Aslanov.

[Monos]

Quote: genisis

Lezgins, Avars, Tats, Talyshs, Tsukhurs, Rutuls live in Azerbaijan, except for a diverse tribal conglomerate of Turks.

Are they any different? Well, except for the name of the village in which their clan lives.

[garnik]

Ali Khamenei is definitely not Azerbaijani)) Or do you mean that Azerbaijanis are Turks living in Iran?

All the same, I think that he is a real Azerbaijani (by the name of the historical region of Iran), and not the so-called.
In general, the Turks are no worse and no better than other peoples. That's just where they appear, there blood spills.

[genisis]

Are they any different? Well, except for the name of the village in which their clan lives.

And the Tatars from the Bashkirs are something different?

[Monos]

Quote: genisis

And the Tatars from the Bashkirs are something different?

I think no. Only ethnographic.

[garnik]

All of them are Turks, except Aslan Azi Agadovich, he is a Talysh who is forcibly assimilated. Otherwise, it is possible to double the hero of the Soviet Union, the pilot Nelson Stepanyan who was born in Shusha (the territory of the former Azerbaijan SSR), also recorded in Azerbaijanis.

[Yujanin.]

And I know Azerbaijanis perfectly the people of traders ...Personally, I did not come across worthy representatives of this nation with a "centuries-old" history

Maybe due to the fact that people who are in your close circle make up shopkeepers?

[purple]

I don’t think about people apparently, Georgians and Armenians are better

[Cheldon]

Well, actually the victory in the Second World War was forged thanks to Baku oil.

[FLOOD]

You can push this to anyone, but not to us. It was you who, thanks to our oil of the Germans, defeated. The largest number of deaths in the war in the ratio of the population of those years fell to our share. All cities were given the title of hero cities, but they did not remember about Baku. And even if they built something under the USSR, it’s not the Russians, but the whole Union built. Now thank us for the Great Victory, and it should be a shame to such ignoramuses as you. Yes, and thank you, tell our oil workers that they have explored your current fields.

[FLOOD]

My village somehow seems more privileged to me compared to yours ....... bad! Virtual shoulder straps do not give a person real knowledge of dopintelligence.

[ukoft]

Russia will not surrender Armenia to Azerbaijan and Turkey; strategic interests will not allow it. if he suddenly decides to turn in, then Iran will support. He has experience of support.
none of the neighbors will try to prevent such an increase in Turkey.
and when Iran weakens, the alternative for southern Azerbaijanis in the form of successful northern Azerbaijan is unnecessary.
and so time works on Azeris. Armenia is being depopulated.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: xetai9977

in the occupation of Azerbaijani lands

Now it remains to remember when the Turks appeared in the Caucasus and when the Armenians. This is the question of who the occupier is.

[garnik]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: xetai9977

in the occupation of Azerbaijani lands

Now it remains to remember when the Turks appeared in the Caucasus and when the Armenians. This is the question of who the occupier is.

All is correct. I wonder how it is possible to so arrogantly appropriate what has never belonged to the zakturkas.
Russia restored Armenia, and in the territories of the Talysh, Lezghins, Tats, Avars, etc., the Bolsheviks “gave birth” to the so-called Azerbaijan.
I would like to know why the ancient historical name Ar.tsakh is being deleted on the VO? Well, then delete Arran and Shirvan, in whose territories the so-called Azerbaijan.

[purple]

The most interesting thing is that nothing actually depends on Azerbaijan

[Nemesis]

No gentlemen, you are now independent, solve your problems yourself ... Russia has enough of its own problems ...

[Black_Vatnik]

It is already useless to return Karabakh. There, people look only one way. But Armenia should return the other occupied territories with surcharge.

[Karen]

Quote: Black_Jacket

It is already useless to return Karabakh. There, people look only one way. But Armenia should return the other occupied territories with surcharge.

In '94 we wanted to return to the banks of the Kura ... Primakov, the true son of the Jewish people, tempted Alkasha to prevent this ... and found an excuse: the Russians stop the Armenians, and then the Turks will not interfere in the cleansing of Chechnya ...

[turcom]

Don't understand what Erdogan wants to say? And what is he waiting for? Surrender Armenia in the name of Erdogan, or surrender Azerbaijan in the name of Putin?

[purple]

Quote: turcom

Don't understand what Erdogan wants to say? And what is he waiting for? Surrender Armenia in the name of Erdogan, or surrender Azerbaijan in the name of Putin?

Just PR, show that Turkey is a significant regional player

[purple]

Monos,

Quote: Monos

And in vain. My father had a friend, an Azerbaijani, also a professor. An Azerbaijani studied with me on the course. I do not know his fate, but he became an engineer-physicist-researcher.

And about degrees and positions, I know very well how in the days of the USSR "professors" from the sunny republics acquired them ... as they say 15 minutes of shame and a piece of bread for life

[Cheldon]

Smacks of slander

[981698]

Why Putin Ah, maybe he’ll steal Serge!

[genisis]

Erdogan should go to Artsakh and talk with people. And Aliev to take with you. Then I would have understood that no one, neither Putin, nor the pope, nor Trump, no one can force the Armenians of the Artsakh to give something to Azerbaijan.
There are only two options for resolving the issue: either Azerbaijan will recognize the independence of the Artsakh, or there will be another war.
Considering how Aliyev inflames his people with hatred of the Armenians, the recognition of Artsakh is akin to a political fiasco for him. And concessions to Azerbaijan by Sarksyan are a political fiasco for him, and for any other president of Armenia, it turns out to be a stalemate.
The only way that I can see, given the mentality of the Turks of Azerbaijan, is to stop cultivating hatred of Armenia, reduce the intensity of hysteria among the population, and smoothly prepare it for a settlement with the Armenians. Azerbaijan itself does not need Artsakh at all. For Azerbaijanis, it’s just a territory, not a homeland. They just need to save face. Therefore, they will gladly stop thinking about revenge, because they do not want to fight with the Armenians at all. And it is simply convenient for Aliyev to maintain this conflict smoldering, attributing all social and economic problems to it. So it turns out that the main character in this conflict is the president of Azerbaijan, who can solve this problem by stopping pumping up his people with military rhetoric.
The Armenians are ready for a compromise, but not ready for the heads of the soldiers to be cut off, and the ears of civilian dead old people, as the “valiant” Azerbaijani Askar did in April 2016. Therefore, the Armenian armed forces will be in full combat readiness until the very end, not only because the Armenians are good fighters, but also because Azerbaijan leaves them no other choice.

[Cheldon]

From time immemorial, the Karabakh khanate, you are carrying some kind of nonsense. Settled you were allowed due to the massacre in Persia. And you behaved a little dishonestly. And what if you ate your independence? Now all the oil flows would go through Armenia, and now you sit to the side and envy your neighbors. Look at the demographic and in whose favor it is. By the way, I know many Udis who live quietly in Azerbaijan. An ancient Albanian church was opened in the village.

[Karen]

A thousand years before the formation of the Karabakh khanate, ours were there.
We had Udins in Armenia ... But they assimilated with the Armenians on the disputed territory even under the Arabs ... first religiously, and then nationally.

[garnik]

For centuries, the Karabakh Khanate is 1747-1822? Does this mean centuries for you?
It belonged to Persia. When the Turks speak about decency, it is simply ridiculous.
I am happy for the udin, but I think that the church is open az. authorities to visit tourists and foreign politicians to confirm their tolerance.

[Karen]

genisis
there is no need to fill the local love spills here ... In Armenia and the NKR there is a Zionist systematic extermination of the Armenian population at the hands of yesterday's panicky ruling.

[genisis]

Explain, do not understand about lovemaking?

[Karen]

Quote: genisis

Explain, do not understand about lovemaking?

I explain.
Everything you said on the subject of today's Karabakh resembles the praise of the policies of the party and the state (as with Edrolyubov). In fact, the local authorities are conducting a systematic eviction of Armenians ... from yesterday's panic attacks put on our neck on 27.10.99. and you should not expect another ...

[genisis]

What does the party’s politics have to do with it?
I’ll say it easier to make it easier for you. The current actions of the Azerbaijani leadership do not leave the Armenians any choice but to prepare for war.
What does Sargsyan and Co. have to do with it?
No actions of the Armenian leadership will change the painful Armenianophobia in Azerbaijan. Even if Sargsyan completely surrenders all the lands of Artsakh to Azerbaijan, the Armenians will still be in danger of being cut out by their Transcaucasian neighbors if the occasion arises. Therefore, I say that only the actions of the Azerbaijani ruling elite to reduce psychotic hatred in their own society can lead to a solution to this problem. Armenians now have only one option, how to be better prepared for the arrival of guests. I can’t judge how much Sargsyan and Co. serve this goal, but I know from my own experience that they are flesh from the flesh and blood from the blood of the Armenian mentality.

[Karen]

Quote: genisis

I can’t judge how much Sargsyan and Co. serve this goal, but I know from my own experience that they are flesh from the flesh and blood from the blood of the Armenian mentality.

... You personally praise the policies of the party and the state ... and this policy does not carry anything Armenian in itself ... it is against the Armenians ... in Armenia, in Karabakh.
If you communicated with the Karabakh people more, you would know that the overwhelming majority of the population dreamed that at least Samvel Babayan would return and expel these grabbers, and many were ready to stand under his banner ... but rogues and made a novice out of the hero.
And with strong Armenia, even listening to the opinion of Azerbaijan will not be necessary.
_____
Talking about Serzhik makes me sick .. don’t need to consider him an Armenian ...

[genisis]

You personally praise the politics of the party and the state.

I personally do not praise anyone.
I repeat once again - the policy of the Azerbaijani authorities leaves the Armenians only one option - to prepare for war.
Where did you see the praise of Sargsyan here, I don’t understand?
As for Samvel Babayan - a talented commander, not the fact that a talented manager.
You apparently have not read that Sarksyan and Co. are flesh from the Armenian flesh. Most Armenians, 99% will behave in his post the same way he does. In fact, the confrontation in Artsakh is the only one, the attitude towards which is almost 100% the same in Armenian society - we will fight. Otherwise, Armenia is now a swan, cancer and pike.
Whoever becomes president will pull a blanket in favor of himself and his family.
I think that even if you became president, after a while you would be talked about, as you are about Sarkisyan now.
As for the military component, then yes, Samvel Babayan, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, will bring quite a few benefits.

[Karen]

Yes, I read everything, but I do not want to write much to local food lovers.
Why do you think that 99℅ Armenians in power will be the same grabber? Where does such disbelief come from? Are we worse people than in Singapore? Awareness of danger can help.
Vazgen Sargsyan introduced the rule of law in Armenia with his own fists ... I know that for sure ... Good with fists is the most effective tool in state building.

[genisis]

Are we worse people than in Singapore?

No worse, no better, just different.

I do not want to write much to local food lovers

Sticking labels on the interlocutor, you do not paint. We see reality in different ways, but it doesn’t occur to me to call you Sasnatsrero, for example.

Vazgen Sargsyan introduced the rule of law in Armenia with his own fists ... I know that for sure ... Good with fists is the most effective tool in state building.

Do not live in the past, live in the present and future. Vazgen is no longer with us.
It is not known how he would be a ruler, maybe good, or maybe others would not like. We will not know this.

[Karen]

Did you remember the clowning with the Sasnazrera? Perhaps Serge also organized this performance? If there were normal patriots, they would go to storm the presidential palace and not to reckon with possible losses ... would remain in memory as heroes.
____
According to Vazgen Sargsyan, everything was very clear ... he was killed in order to steal our future.

[FLOOD]

That's right, get ready for war, and even better for a happy ending off the banks of the Ganges!

[Karen]

TUFAN, something in Erdogan’s words on Putin reminds me of the times when Heydar Aliyev exclaimed: “Who said that Lenin died? Here he is !!!” (+ _ +++), showing the people on Leonid Brezhnev.
Soon, probably, they will go to the beach for a swim ...

[garnik]

Quote: Black_Jacket

It is already useless to return Karabakh. There, people look only one way. But Armenia should return the other occupied territories with surcharge.

Yes, he did Trotsky affairs. Ar.tsakh itself was located in these territories. It was already the cavatars who shredded her to Nagorno-Karabakh.
The liberated territories can be returned only in exchange for the recognition of Ar.tsakh and then 2-3 districts. I think this is not desirable, but still a compromise. Then only war.

[FLOOD]

What in return? No recognition, let go of the visor and cover yourself with a shield!

[Mavrikiy]

Erdogan: the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh can be resolved by Russia and Vladimir Putin
How well said! True, I did not understand that: Russia in the square or Putin in the square? There we were saying the party, we mean Lenin ....
And when did Erdogan become so smart? Are tomatoes really? And you are a cross, a cross ...