Icebreaker "Leader" can get weapons

The icebreaker project 10510 "Leader" has a new task: if necessary, he will become a warship. Containers with anti-submarine, rocket or artillery weapons can be installed on it, News.

“The project of deploying weapons systems on it goes through the stage of technical expertise and is considered as an auxiliary one. Installation of combat modules is possible only in a special period. At this time, it is planned that the vessel may be involved to strengthen the Northern fleet", - the newspaper writes with reference to a representative of the high command of the Navy.

Currently, the nuclear icebreaker "Leader" exists in the form of a model. The Iceberg Central Design Bureau and the Krylov State Research Center are engaged in technical design of the vessel, optimization of the interior, as well as equipment locations.

According to military expert Alexander Mozgovogo, the idea of ​​arming icebreakers is not new, but with the advent of modular technology, this concept will reach a new level.

At all Soviet nuclear-powered icebreakers, the installation of artillery weapons during the threatened period was envisaged. The development of modular technologies will expand the range of installed weapons. The most popular will be modules designed for solving air defense tasks, but they have yet to be created. We already have container "Caliber-K" with cruise missiles, with which the icebreaker will actually turn into a strike ship,

said the expert.

Comments

[Trevis]

The development of modular technologies will expand the range of installed weapons.

Gauges, Gauges! Yes, more!

10510 "Leader"

Hotz see him soon!

[Monos]

Our atomic icebreakers have always had the function of protecting ongoing convoys.

[Bourbon]

Our atomic icebreakers have always had the function of protecting ongoing convoys.
Well, what does Photoshop have to do with it?
here is Russia -

[Monos]

Quote: Burbon

Well, what does Photoshop have to do with it?

Indeed, what does Photoshop have to do with it?

[hrych]

Photoshop users are not keeping pace with our modular systems. In general everything is good. Few ships, we will turn bulk carriers and tugboats into powerful strike ships We must understand the depth of our depths

[Monos]

Nuclear-powered icebreaker "Russia" during the tests of reinforcements for artillery weapons according to the mobilization version
Article: "Levchenko V. G., Baltic factory - 150 years // Gangut - issue 37 СО ст - СПб Publishing house" Gangut ", 2006 - 144 s, ill. ISBN 5 — 85875 — 002-8"
Here's another "photoshop":


Your brain banned?

[alstr]

I wonder what my father-in-law experienced. By the way, if I remember correctly, it was the Soviet Union that was. He then served in the brigade of ships under construction and participated in this.
It was easy. The guns were set. They shot and then sent to the warehouse. So the photo with the guns could very well have happened.

[Bourbon]

Quote: alstr

The guns were set. They shot and then sent to the warehouse. So the photo with the guns could very well have happened.

this could not happen in the USSR !! .... this is photoshop

[alstr]

What could not be: guns or photos?

[Bourbon]

Quote: alstr

What could not be: guns or photos?

Of course a photo, they could install artifacts on icebreakers, but this picture is Photoshop))

[alstr]

Why? If it is known for certain that there were tests of gun mounts?
They could take a photo.

[parkello]

it would be nice if you put a remote clearance unit. ice blast if too thick. and helicopter for landing

[Monos]

Quote: parkello

and helicopter for landing

Take a closer look at the layout. There is also a helicopter landing pad and a hangar.

[parkello]

Yes, I have seen the site before, but the site still does not mean that he has a turntable on board. that is, he can take a turntable aboard, but not that it would be based on it. it's still different things. but the hangar .. it already says more. but I did not immediately notice it. In any case, this is very good. and as for the art on board ... I don’t know, I don’t think it can come in handy. another thing is a tornado or a flamethrower such as Pinocchio. but again ... in few places it may come in handy. and classical artillery, if any, will be at least a coalition. not to say that the best built tower. Monos, I don’t criticize you, and I’m not trying to seem smart, because I’m not. it's just nice to talk with you. which I am trying to do. I just enjoy talking to people who understand more than they say. me all these epaulettes and pluses like a drum. the best plus is your answer, for which I thank you. Thank you for your attention, and I'm sorry to take the time for you. it’s just that I don’t often enter into dialogues, especially here, where everyone is happy. but I would not want to express my opinion to people who do not have brains, but bird droppings in their heads. and you do not belong to such.

[Monos]

Ergos (did I pronounce your name correctly?), You praised me, but thanks anyway.
Constructive criticism and discussion are always welcome! Namely, constructive; and it is a discussion, not a dispute between two stubborn rams. In vain you are embarrassed to communicate. Adequate people here are the majority. Sometimes they are harsh. But they are resourceful.

[parkello]

almost correct . Yergos, to be exact. and as for the public ... I've been here for almost two years. and often read than write. if there are times when it is possible to discuss, then why not, but more often than not what happens is what unsettles me. I have severe injuries, shell shock. therefore, I am not sociable. here almost no one knows me (and thank God for that) and often perceive my words with hostility. for sim. I just lost interest in communicating with anyone, not only here, but also on Greek sites and other resources. the impudence of some individuals (which the language will not turn to call people) simply rolls over at times. their confidence that they won’t reach them, so I don’t try to start dialogues or discuss on this or that topic. I don’t get friends, I don’t extort pluses, and I don’t particularly abuse the opportunity to write something. Thank you for talking, I did not praise you .. Rather, I did not want to say that. I mean, I have not said more than it really is. I am one of those people who call a spade a spade, without exaggeration and a side dish. Thank you for communicating, I was not mistaken in you. You are exactly the one I described above. this is not flattery, this is what I see. I spent too long in psychiatry, and learned to recognize people. I think if I have any questions on a particular topic, I can turn to you for help. I hope it doesn’t come to this, but if it does, I’m sure that I can get an exhaustive answer to any of my questions.

[Monos]

Quote: parkello

I think if I have any questions on a particular topic, I can ask you for help

Contact, of course. If I can, I will answer and help. I will be glad to talk.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Trevis

Gauges, Gauges! Yes, more!

By the time the Leader is surrendered, there will be not only Caliber, but Zircons ... universal PU has already been developed.

[DenZ]

A "leader" must be a leader in everything. Perfect solution.

[NEXUS]

Quote: DenZ

A "leader" must be a leader in everything. Perfect solution.

The true Leader is the destroyer Leader.

[xtur]

> The real Leader is the destroyer Leader.

This is a big question.
VI Icebreaker will be 2 times higher than all assumptions about the destroyer. Theoretically, the amount of free space on the icebreaker can be so large that there will be more weapons on it than on the destroyer

[rotmistr60]

Given the aspirations of the United States, Canada and other NATO countries to the Arctic and the desire to chop off something from Russia in this region, the task is set reasonable and timely. Missiles are not cannons and heavy machine guns.

[Bourbon]

Quote: rotmistr60

Missiles are not cannons and heavy machine guns.

Yes, they’ll most likely put artillery, armor and a package of NK .... there’s no need for calibers there .... The leader is for escorting both civilian and warships in the ice ... he doesn’t fight, but protect tankers and gas carriers. ...

[weksha50]

Quote: Burbon

.to not fight, but to protect tankers and gas carriers.

Air defense and anti-aircraft defense systems - they will not hurt ...

[hrych]

Gauges are anti-ship. On the other hand, there are enemy bases in Alaska and Scandinavia. Who says you can’t brush if necessary

[Sadam]

Well, Canada is not a competitor in this regard at all - two ice-class guard tugboats that get stuck in 20cm ice in Santorans .... and I did not hear Trudeau’s programs for modernizing the icebreaker fleet, although in the next decade it will probably be necessary to share the disputed Arctic shelf. Norwegian states I will not say I do not own

[novel66]

which means "may" - must be armed! and so that not a single cattle truck would ever think close!

[Bourbon]

Quote: novel xnumx

which means "may" - must be armed! and so that not a single cattle truck would ever think close!

[novel66]

emotionally. but not informative. corn?

[Monarchist]

The idea itself is not new: back in the sixties, 19 the military department used the so-called “auxiliary cruisers” from ordinary passenger or cargo ones. And in the Arctic, the atomic icebreaker becomes a trump card and it’s a sin not to use it.
I’m not an expert, but I think: the “leader” needs the “shell” type air defense system and perhaps the harpoon type anti-ship system and then we get a kind of icebreaker cruiser

[weksha50]

Quote: Monarchist

back in the sixties

Remember the civil one ... The Great Patriotic War ... The mass of civilian ships was armed and used ...

[Alexey RA]

So in the USSR for all ALEDs after "Lenin" there was a mobproject - a project to equip an icebreaker in the event of a war and mobilization of ships. The ICE test program included tests with installed weapons, then it was removed and deposited.
But not always - for example, they didn’t take off a pair of MP-123 radars at “Rossiya” and “Sovetskoy Soyuz”: one in the aft part of the superstructure and one on the tank (distinguished by its spherical color against the background of the orange superstructure - in the photo it is visible between two nasal taps).

And here is the "Russia" in full body kit:

From left to right - AK-176, a pair of AK-630M and the same MP-123. In the aft part of the superstructure, another pair of AK-630M is visible to the left and right of the mast pipe. Behind the pipe there should be a second AK-176. And the second MP-123.

[Going]

According to military expert Alexander Mozgovogo, the idea of ​​arming icebreakers is not new, but with the advent of modular technology, this concept will reach a new level.

There will be surprises for the stripes, now they will raise a howl that we are militarizing the Arctic.

[faridg7]

Quote: Going

According to military expert Alexander Mozgovogo, the idea of ​​arming icebreakers is not new, but with the advent of modular technology, this concept will reach a new level.

There will be surprises for the stripes, now they will raise a howl that we are militarizing the Arctic.

Of course, I didn’t study at the faculty of ships, but I don’t see any problems in laying launch mines of the poplar or blue type in the design of the icebreaker at the design stage. And in the threatened period, take and charge them with missiles, and it is better to charge them right away, and in the threatened period enter flight missions

[Pomor northerner]

This already happened in Soviet times, when transport and fishing vessels had foundations for gun mounts, an irrigation system and a bunch of other equipment that later rusted and decayed and became unusable. You just need to create and restore the coastal infrastructure in the Arctic, and not hang weapons on icebreakers.

[Hagalaz]

What can rust and rot? The foundation for the gun? Are you seriously?
And for rust grinder in hand and forth, not at all a large amount of work.
Keywords in the article are threatened periud and modular design. If at the design level it is possible to provide for the placement of equipment and systems, it will not be comparable to the vast infrastructure on the coast. In the Arctic.

[vlad007]

The icebreaker "Ivan Papanin" of the 23550 project, laid down on 19 on April 2017 in St. Petersburg - was designed with weapons.

Technical characteristics of the ship with a displacement of seven thousand tons have no analogues in the world. It will combine the qualities of a tugboat, an icebreaker and a patrol ship. the icebreaker "Ivan Papanin" is armed with Caliber cruise missiles and the AK-76MA 176-mm artillery naval installation.

[Pomor northerner]

It was built for the Navy, and last year all the Nuclear-powered icebreakers accompanied a group of ships to the Novosibirsk Islands

[badens1111]

Quote: vlad007

tugboat, icebreaker and patrol ship. the icebreaker Ivan Papanin is armed with Caliber cruise missiles and the AK-76MA 176-mm artillery naval installation.

And the means of air defense? However, surely this is also. It’s glad, very happy that they attended to the development and protection of the Arctic from the encroachments of any rabble.

[Thunderbolt]

It’s better to strengthen the air defense, but “Caliber” will be redundant. After all, he must drive convoys, so let them defend them.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

It’s better to strengthen the air defense, but “Caliber” will be redundant. After all, he must drive convoys, so let them defend them.

And in universal PUs, which were developed not so long ago, it is possible to put both Onyx and Zircons in the near future.

[Thunderbolt]

The stray also relies on them in the form of antenna and command posts and additional trained specialists as part of the crew (more than in the air defense modules). Where will you take so many, if the war starts, on the latest complexes?
Short-range and medium-range air defense in ice convoys of a special period is more necessary.
And let those who are supposed to carry long rockets.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

And let those who are supposed to carry long rockets.

Well, yes ... only I wildly apologize, and we are strongly building "who should"?

[Thunderbolt]

We build a little and slowly, but this is not a question for me, of course.
Arming civilian vessels for self-defense is a normal, generally accepted practice. But specialized ships must carry out strike missions. Otherwise, we will begin to equip our promising LNG tankers with Zircons in order to plug a hole in the Pacific Fleet. But this is an obvious bust.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Arming civilian vessels for self-defense is a normal, common practice.

And Zircon is not only a means of attack, but also a defense. If the adversary knows that on such an icebreaker there are launchers with Zircons, he will stay away from the caravan guarded by this icebreaker.

[Thunderbolt]

I don’t know, I haven’t seen it. So far, it’s possible that only secret tests pass and I don’t draw conclusions.

[Roma 1977]

What do you want? The joke about the "Soviet Peace Tractor" was not born from scratch.

[Evgeny RS]

Someone thinks that they are not doing this in NATO countries?
I know the opposite.
Icebreakers have always been considered paramilitary ships.

[HEATHER]

The icebreaker’s armament with rockets and an artillery mount was already laid at the beginning of the development of the project. So this is not news. All of this is the current global tension. Any icebreaking ship / ship will have the necessary weapons on board. Including the Caliber in containers on vehicles. //politrussia.com/upload/iblock/
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[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Burbon

in the USSR this could not happen !!.

In Soviet times, concrete slabs were placed on the deck of tankers using a floating crane. They arranged a runway. Like an aircraft carrier. Everything was!