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How Putin's rays of royal glory warm up: British opinion

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Vladimir Putin, who opens the monuments to the kings, is trying to catch a glimpse of the former royal glory. This writes the popular British newspaper «The Telegraph».




Vladimir Putin discovered a “giant” monument - a statue of Alexander III in the Crimea, Alec Lun writes in a newspaper "The Telegraph". In his speech, the correspondent points out, Putin drew a parallel between the rule of the “conservative king” and his own “18-year rule.”

The reign of Alexander III is honored in Russia after “the Kremlin ignores the 100 anniversary of the Russian revolution,” reminds a British journalist.

The said king was praised at the opening of the monument as "the ruler who brought peace, glory, development and stability." Officials in Russia often emphasize precisely “stability”: after all, the Putin presidency brought it to the Russians “after the chaos of the 1990's.”

President Putin also expects to earn honors for his “aggressive foreign policy, including the annexation of the Crimea in the 2014 year,” writes Lun.

According to Putin, Alexander III was called "peacemaker" because he did not lead large-scale wars and "gave Russia 13 years of peace" with his "hardness." It was also said that the king modernized the army and began the construction of the Trans-Siberian railway.

On the monument, the journalist reports, a statement was made that “is attributed to Alexander III among the people and is often quoted by Putin”: “Russia has only two allies: its army and navy”.

Internet users, however, ridiculed the “achievements” of the king, bronzed in the bas-relief. The fact is that the Tretyakov Gallery and Historical the museum in Moscow, presented on the bas-relief, was created several years before Alexander III took the throne. Also depicted here is Fedor Dostoevsky, who died before the accession of Alexander.

The publication indicates that this is not the first mistakes in Russian monuments. Earlier there was a noisy scandal depicting the scheme of the German assault rifle StG.44 on the monument to M. Kalashnikov, which was opened in Moscow in September.

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As for the topic of “aggressive foreign policy” mentioned, including the “annexation of the Crimea”, other Western observers who visited the Crimea saw the sight and instead of “annexation” talk about “reunification with Russia”. For example, the Norwegian publisher Kirsten Engelstad through the newspaper "Aftenposten" suggested look at Russia and its policy with different eyes. In the autumn of 2017, Engelstad visited the Crimea and admitted: what the West calls “the annexation of Crimea by Russia”, the locals call it “reunification with Russia”.

Regarding the errors mentioned on the monuments, one thing can be said: negligence is spreading at a dismal pace in Russia, coupled with carelessness and illiteracy, both in terms of language and in relation to native history. It would seem that in our time, thanks to the Internet, you can verify any fact in minutes, or even seconds. But even this is not done. But the rush is needed when hunting for fleas, Talcov once sang ...

By the way, let’s add, the author of the monument, Andrei Kovalchuk, answered the inaccuracy allegations published in The Telegraph. “Normally perfectly, when the sculptor treats it a little bit differently”, - noticed he advised critics to "read materiel."

“There will be no alterations. Nothing contradicts. All this is absolutely authentic, with a light artistic look of the author. There is no wrong here, here is the actual truth. It's just that liberal-minded people are trying to see black not black, but gray, it happens, it’s absolutely normal, ”said Kovalchuk.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 November 2017 07: 56
    10
    We look at the "mouse fuss" in Britain and "smile in mustache." It’s not better to turn on yourself, godfather ...
    1. Logall
      Logall 21 November 2017 07: 59
      22
      Need to know the story! But this does not mean that when opening new monuments it is necessary to ignore such an Important event as the Great October Revolution! Yes, the story does not correspond, but some events are silent ...
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 21 November 2017 08: 01
        +6
        How Putin's rays of royal glory warm up: British opinion

        So royal repeat ... and what in general,british scientistscan know about the "rays of glory"?

        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        We look at the "mouse fuss" in Britain and "smile in mustache."


        Stalin's mustache.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 21 November 2017 08: 14
          12
          This "portrait" is not true! Finely!
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 21 November 2017 08: 24
            12
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Finely

            So the magazine there, The Economist, dug deeper. wink
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 21 November 2017 08: 29
              +9
              Quote: Jedi
              the magazine dug deeper
              It’s already on their conscience!
              It is possible in one place and not so nakolupat!
              I recall from childhood:
              One american
              Stuck in ..... finger ...
              Well, then it’s very unpresentable!
              1. midivan
                midivan 21 November 2017 09: 44
                +2
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                It’s already on their conscience!
                It is possible in one place and not so nakolupat!

                At my princess yes ?
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                I recall from childhood:
                One american
                Stuck in ..... finger ...
                Well, then it’s very unpresentable!

                Awkward unpresentable? We had different childhoods for sure, they sang in my finger and thought it was turning on the gramophone, if it’s not difficult to personalize your version, it’s painfully intrigued lol
          2. Victor-M
            Victor-M 21 November 2017 13: 37
            +1
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            This "portrait" is not true! Finely!

            Fine in what? In the number of victims?
            Under Putin, the same thing is done as under Stalin, only the flight of victims.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 November 2017 10: 54
          10
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Stalin's mustache.

          Why are these comics here? request
          You see what’s the matter, we used to live in the country of Atlantes, which could do everything, but now we live in the country of “dwarfs", where even a small shelter already seems like a boil.
          But seriously, so
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 21 November 2017 11: 41
            +9
            Why are these comics here? request
            You see what’s the matter, we used to live in the country of Atlantes, which could do everything, but now we live in the country of “dwarfs", where even a small shelter already seems like a boil.
            But seriously, so


            I wonder how many characters on the forum click through this miracle post with a miracle picture

            Sling cutter, your struggle has made your pursuit heavier. Soon you will lead the revolution against Tyrant Vlad.

            Stroporez along with Ukrainians fighting for the Russian soul, Georgians help. And even some kind of booby helped them in the fight with the unworthy picture. So win. Wide front. To the joy of the Saxons.

            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 November 2017 14: 17
              +3
              Quote: c-Petrov
              I wonder how many characters on the forum click through this miracle post with a miracle picture

              And what's wrong with this picture?
              Quote: c-Petrov
              Sling cutter, your struggle has made your pursuit heavier. Soon you will lead the revolution against Tyrant Vlad.

              Non koment negative
              Quote: c-Petrov
              Stroporez along with Ukrainians fighting for the Russian soul, Georgians help.

              What time ?! belay Why did you write me down in kakly? I also understand that there are in bulkers, bellies ....... Well, here you’ve definitely gone too far. stop
              I report, I adhere to the Marxist-Leninist ideology and its dialectic.
              I also explain that before ebna and pvv, there was such a country of the USSR and if you drown about the 90s it won’t work, since the 90s didn’t end, but got their development in the receiver ..
              Is it clear now?!
              Quote: c-Petrov
              To the joy of the Saxons

              If you are about me, so I say, here my personal, for example, coming to power (making fun of), the Saxons will not be happy at all, that's for sure! laughing tongue
          2. Colonel
            Colonel 21 November 2017 12: 32
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            But seriously

            I would also add that we did not have obvious pi ..., well, talkers, and now they are. I don’t even know if it is Stalin’s success or Putin’s flaw.
          3. Victor-M
            Victor-M 21 November 2017 13: 22
            +4
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Stalin's mustache.

            Why are these comics here? request
            You see what’s the matter, we used to live in the country of Atlantes, which could do everything, but now we live in the country of “dwarfs", where even a small shelter already seems like a boil.
            But seriously, so

            Stroporez, it’s a pity that you didn’t live under Stalin, that you didn’t indicate something about the millions of victims of repression, they were under Stalin, but they are not under Putin. About what happened under Stalin and what was lost, you turned to your repainted party members, to Zyuganov’s, and under Putin it’s all recreated from scratch, and this zero is the result of your liberal policy of the 90s.
          4. captain
            captain 21 November 2017 22: 34
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Stalin's mustache.

            Why are these comics here? request
            You see what’s the matter, we used to live in the country of Atlantes, which could do everything, but now we live in the country of “dwarfs", where even a small shelter already seems like a boil.
            But seriously, so

            If you lived in the country of Atlantis, then where did you divide this country? Balobol (there is another expression) you are "comrade".
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 21 November 2017 22: 39
              +2
              Quote: captain
              Balobol (there is another expression) you are "comrade".

              How accurately did you christen yourself, a former member of the party ... they don’t press orders, the country you betrayed? Or you never were in the army, and you thought up fables about the orders as a legend, in order to seem more impressive, but in the end you remained .who called themselves?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 21 November 2017 22: 48
                10
                Quote: badens1111
                Quote: captain
                Balobol (there is another expression) you are "comrade".

                How aptly you have christened yourself

                Thrill-ya-yayashka ... to the dance the sling-rats have come ...
                Ay-yai-yay ... and also an intellectual laughing
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 November 2017 09: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Thrill-ya-yayashka ... to the dance the sling-rats have come ...

                  Nda Kote, you fell low, you used to be just a troll, and now you rolled down to the baseboard stop
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Ay-yai-yay ... and also an intellectual

                  Fu Fu Kote negative
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 09: 49
                    10
                    You will poke ... not for me, in short, available?

                    The troll is exactly you, all the habits are there. The fact that you are a “revolutionary” troll does not change your troll essence request

                    You are trolling, Baden-Baden is at your dance ... what’s wrong?
                    Everything is exactly like ...
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 22 November 2017 09: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      You are trolling, Baden-Baden is at your dance ... what’s wrong?
                      Everything is exactly like ...

                      You have imagined too much about yourself. This is the first, second in dancing all sorts of Kohl and the like, you are listed. Together with the captain.
                      Therefore, I would recommend to you, in my address, not to write any nonsense.
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Nda Kote, you fell low, you used to be just a troll,

                      As I understand it, did a cat manul in the past? There was a noble troll, everywhere he stuck its "opinion", which for some reason exactly coincides with the opinion of ..
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 10: 01
                        10
                        Quote: badens1111
                        You imagined too much about yourself. This is the first, second in dancing all sorts of Kohl and the like, you are listed. Together with the captain

                        Ek bombing you belay
                        Let's just say: the first is not your business, completely and generally; not for you to decide. The second is just bullshit, sorry request
                        Quote: badens1111
                        This is, as I understand it, a cat manul in the past?

                        No ... it's at biting rodent comrade glitches began ... Comrade is on fire at work, does not spare himself at all laughing
                      2. badens1111
                        badens1111 22 November 2017 10: 14
                        +2
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Let's just say: the first is not your business, completely and generally; not for you to decide.

                        You have already apologized once.
                        Would you like me to make you do this again?
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 22 November 2017 10: 09
                      +2
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Everything is exactly like ...

                      Ma la dez laughing All this in white analytech in all areas, with a claim to humor ... belay
                      I think it’s better for you to stop talking with us, otherwise it will come to obscene language, etc., in general, not comme il faut hi
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 10: 21
                        10
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        I think we better stop talking with you

                        But I don’t communicate with you if you haven’t noticed.
                        I'm trying to neutralize your, ahem, errors.
                        Sometimes it turns out, it’s enough for me.
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        otherwise it will come to obscene language

                        It’s possible with you. I hardly have you mean too little to me negative
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 22 November 2017 09: 35
              +2
              Quote: captain
              If you lived in the country of Atlantis, then where did you divide this country? Balobol (there is another expression) you are "comrade".

              If you hadn’t ruined your officer honor, you wouldn’t have pissed off.
              You too, when it was called "comrade", who were you there, the captain? Who are you now?
      2. pjastolov
        pjastolov 21 November 2017 08: 09
        23
        Quote: Logall
        Yes, the story does not correspond, but some events are silent ...

        Hi Sanya hi but Putin is Putin
        this is what they should understand angry
        1. Logall
          Logall 21 November 2017 08: 28
          14
          Volodya, hello!
          I myself have uploaded this picture more than once, but Putin is no longer the same! But there is no alternative ...
          1. pjastolov
            pjastolov 21 November 2017 08: 29
            +6
            Quote: Logall
            But there is no alternative ...

            why? and Sobchak? laughing
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            2. weksha50
              weksha50 21 November 2017 20: 54
              +1
              Quote: pjastolov
              and Sobchak?


              Ksyusha left the race ... lol
      3. Fedorov
        Fedorov 21 November 2017 08: 10
        +4
        And before her was the February and the abdication of the king, without it there would have been no October ... hi
      4. starogil
        starogil 21 November 2017 08: 43
        11
        The guarantor-werewolf for the November holidays, as it were, piled so much that it’s even
        responded with a speech by the dairyman in the Bundestag, after which it became clear who was leading
        in Russia, desovetization, decommunization, de-Stalinization. Apotheosis - speech at the opening
        Monument to the drunk Alexander.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 33
          +7
          Quote: starogil
          Apotheosis - speech at the opening
          Monument to the drunk Alexander.

          Apotheosis - speech at the opening of the Yeltsin Center !!! Then it became clear completely - Putin is an enemy of the Russian people!
          1. Victor-M
            Victor-M 21 November 2017 13: 39
            +4
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: starogil
            Apotheosis - speech at the opening
            Monument to the drunk Alexander.

            Apotheosis - speech at the opening of the Yeltsin Center !!! Then it became clear completely - Putin is an enemy of the Russian people!

            Is it you that is Russian, you have already shown with your nickname how to relate to you, and everyone is rooting for Russia.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 21 November 2017 14: 04
              +2
              enemies they are enemies ... tongue
          2. captain
            captain 21 November 2017 22: 36
            +1
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: starogil
            Apotheosis - speech at the opening
            Monument to the drunk Alexander.

            Apotheosis - speech at the opening of the Yeltsin Center !!! Then it became clear completely - Putin is an enemy of the Russian people!

            Well, no need for the whole Russian people, it is almost according to Trotsky; "... we are for the Russian people, which is dense .."
        2. skylare
          skylare 21 November 2017 10: 33
          +5
          Pikul need to read less. Then the drunks on every corner will not seem.
          1. starogil
            starogil 21 November 2017 13: 49
            +4
            Read Putin and the report of the Urengoy undergrowth in the Bundestag.
      5. kapitan92
        kapitan92 21 November 2017 09: 06
        +9
        Quote: Logall
        But this does not mean that when opening new monuments it is necessary to ignore such an Important event as the Great October Revolution!

        Indeed, the Bolshevik revolution, as an event, cannot be ignored, so that in the future this would not happen! Those who want to finance it are already in the queue.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 21 November 2017 10: 10
          +9
          kapitan92 Today, 09: 06. There is no need to make a fuss about financing the October Revolution. How could they finance the Bolsheviks if they had nothing to do with power. They did not occupy any leading posts. They did not manage any power and financial statements. It’s like in a situation where the traffic police took away your rights, and you go for help to the prisoner in prison to return them. Rave!? But similarly do those who accuse Lenin of financing. All Bolsheviks either sat, or were in exile, or abroad. How could they organize a change of power in this way? How on the Maidan? But on Maidan, many officials were bought in advance, money was brought in during the process. The Maidan is different, although many officials put their pockets to change the government. *** so that in the future this does not happen! *** What didn’t happen? Social equality? Why is there such a howl about October? Did the Reds cut everyone? No. The howl is worth being deprived of private property. That’s why it’s howling. If there really was a destruction of the population by the Reds, then it would be outrageous. But the extermination of the population by Whites * humanists * does not care, the extermination of the population by the interventionists does not care either, the destruction of the carriers of red ideas in the West is also not noticed. What about fascism? Why is he not noticed today? But radicalism, who cultivates? After the Civil, the population of Russia fell? Well, why doesn’t anyone care about the drop in numbers after the 90s? Excited ?! Who are they blaming? Accuse the USSR. The demographic pit, the consequences of war and mediocre leadership! What can I say? Wherever you spit, everywhere is the fault of the USSR. The question is why? Yes, because the system was public, not private. This is all the fault.
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 21 November 2017 12: 37
            +4
            Quote: Region 34
            .No need to be fooled about financing the October Revolution. How could they finance the Bolsheviks if they had nothing to do with power.

            They financed the Bolsheviks so that they "climbed" onto this power.
            In your post you ask a lot of questions - the answers to which are on the "surface".
            If something happens in the world (fascism, radicalism, etc.), then this is necessary for someone, and this someone is financing! hi
            1. 34 region
              34 region 21 November 2017 12: 57
              +3
              kapitan92 Today, 12:37. The point is to finance people by changing power if these people are constantly in prison? Could it be easier to finance people sitting at the levers of power? Like in the USSR in the 90s.
              1. kapitan92
                kapitan92 21 November 2017 13: 02
                +4
                Quote: Region 34
                The point is to finance people by changing power if these people are constantly in prison?

                Sorry, but I get the impression that you only studied history from Soviet high school textbooks. hi
                1. starogil
                  starogil 21 November 2017 13: 54
                  +5
                  There were good textbooks, unlike the current ones in which
                  fakes about supposedly financing of the Bolsheviks. Long ago these fakes
                  not compromising.
                2. 34 region
                  34 region 21 November 2017 15: 52
                  +2
                  kapitan92 Today, 13:02. And I get the impression that you studied history according to manuals from the West. Just do not ask one simple question. Why is the West so concerned about not repeating the events of October 17th.
                  1. kapitan92
                    kapitan92 21 November 2017 19: 01
                    +4
                    Quote: Region 34
                    Why is the West so concerned about not repeating the events of October 17th.

                    And he (the West) is so worried !? laughing
                    1. 34 region
                      34 region 22 November 2017 05: 04
                      0
                      kapitan92 Yesterday, 19:01 p.m. If there is support for anti-Soviet media, then it is very interested.
                3. captain
                  captain 21 November 2017 22: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: kapitan92
                  Quote: Region 34
                  The point is to finance people by changing power if these people are constantly in prison?

                  Sorry, but I get the impression that you only studied history from Soviet high school textbooks. hi

                  You are deeply mistaken, this "comrade", apart from the Short Course of the CPSU (B.), Has not read anything. Lenin lived with him for alms 17 years abroad (or even better option; for party contributions).
                  1. 34 region
                    34 region 22 November 2017 05: 06
                    0
                    captain Yesterday, 22:40. The captain suspect only anti-Soviet literature read and watched our TV. Is there that the true truth is shown ?!
            2. Anyone
              Anyone 22 November 2017 00: 20
              +2
              Quote: kapitan92
              If something happens in the world (fascism, radicalism, etc.), then someone needs this, and this someone is financing!

              Correct, if I am mistaken: if the Bolsheviks come to power, then someone is financing, and if United Russia comes to power, is this only significant will of the people of Russia? )))
      6. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 21 November 2017 09: 43
        +8
        Quote: Logall
        Need to know the story! But this does not mean that when opening new monuments it is necessary to ignore such an Important event as the Great October Revolution! Yes, the story does not correspond, but some events are silent ...

        Yes, declaring the stitching of a story in fact is opposed. on the one hand, a monument to the Wrangel Kolchak; on the other, a coiled mausoleum
      7. Anyone
        Anyone 22 November 2017 00: 38
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        Need to know the story! But this does not mean that when opening new monuments it is necessary to ignore such an Important event as the Great October Revolution!

        The word "revolution" is shrunk ... in short, it greatly scares our power. She would like to exclude him from the Russian language at all))
    2. Going
      Going 21 November 2017 08: 02
      15
      Let them rave on, but we need to work calmly and do our job.
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 21 November 2017 08: 10
        +7
        Quote: Going
        Let them rave on, but we need to work calmly and do our job.

        golden words good
      2. Burbon
        Burbon 21 November 2017 08: 50
        +1
        quote from the article -
        negligence is spreading in Russia at a dismal pace, coupled with inattention and illiteracy
        ... it’s very true, even on our website, authors often make mistakes either with photos or reprint someone else’s article in which they already have errors ((... not to mention the comments of the characters ... you need to approach your statements more responsibly !!
        1. zhekazs
          zhekazs 21 November 2017 09: 07
          +1
          All right, say it. So start with yourself!
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 21 November 2017 14: 01
            0
            Quote: zhekazs
            All right, say it. So start with yourself!

            I work in the real sector of the economy and there is my small contribution to the GDP! We supply processed raw materials for steel plants ...
            1. zhekazs
              zhekazs 21 November 2017 14: 59
              +2
              You did not understand me. We touched on the correct topic - literacy of writing texts:
              Quote: Burbon
              authors often make mistakes sometimes with photos, or reprint someone else's article in which they already have errors ((... not to mention the comments of the characters ... it is necessary to approach your statements more responsibly !!

              But at the same time, you yourself make mistakes in your comment. And it doesn’t matter what you write from the touch screen or from the standard keyboard. Take the trouble to re-read the written and correct errors in your text. I do not appeal to you personally, but to everyone. And it turns out, the "characters" blurt out, thinking, "Well, it's okay, I’m writing from a smartphone, it’s inconvenient to edit it, and so they will understand" - it’s uncomfortable and unpleasant читать unedited, erroneous, illiterate comments. Thus, the culture of writing falls in us, once wrote illiterate, the second, and already into the third habit. And as for writing articles - proofreaders should follow this, if any, the editors, after all.
              I wish you success in your work!
    3. Slovak
      Slovak 21 November 2017 14: 52
      0
      A little more and migrants will survive them from the island completely. Together with the queen and her crown, then we read articles about the former "greatness" of the thieving monarchy
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 November 2017 04: 44
      0
      Come on. Although there were no images of German tanks and helmets. It will only get worse. hi
  2. Fedorov
    Fedorov 21 November 2017 07: 57
    +6

    And Potemkin in the Crimea? It would be fairer. Murray theme for how many years, and things are there ..
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 November 2017 08: 40
      +4
      Quote: Fedorov
      And Potemkin in the Crimea? It would be fairer. Murray theme for how many years, and things are there ..


      +
      Potemkin is not royal blood .... none of those in power is not interested, and Polonskaya is not interesting either! No one will pay for Potemkin wassat

      So, to put it mildly, I do not respect Putin (for certain things), but when a Western journalist starts to write crap, I want to go in his faces ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 November 2017 10: 13
        +5
        It is difficult to respect the GDP of the Soviet people, especially of some kind of reactionary, as they said / studied autocrat! But the Tsar was a patriot of this country, a major historical figure ... to ignore is simply stupid, to exalt, each according to his own understanding.
        GDP is our reality and certainly better than those who came before it, according to the actual state of the country, and not according to how they speak about it. Of the figures represented on the political horizon, no one has greater confidence.
        So, the opinion of foreign guardians, few people in the country are interested.
        С
  3. bober1982
    bober1982 21 November 2017 08: 10
    +2
    From anger, both the "British" comrades and our homegrown connoisseurs of history, at the sight of a monument.
    They started whining about Dostoevsky.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 November 2017 08: 15
    +4
    Somewhat unexpected monument. They did not love the Tsar Patriot before and do not respect it now: neither the "progressive public", nor the "seekers of workers' solidarity", nor the "nobility elite" ...
    1. 23rus
      23rus 21 November 2017 08: 22
      +4
      But the truth is, the king was not liberal-loving! You can say - a retrograde. And his allies were, to put it mildly, strange, two allies ... winked
  5. Saling
    Saling 21 November 2017 08: 27
    +9
    Yes, do not care about the opinion of foreigners. That’s what we’ll do with our own idiots? The installation of monuments, with historical errors, has become an epidemic: a monument to a Slav woman with a German rifle, a monument to Kalashnikov with a German assault rifle on a bas-relief. And now a monument to the tsar German, with bas-reliefs on which are depicted the so-called the achievements of his reign, which, as it turned out, occurred before his accession. Here it is, stability. wink
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 November 2017 09: 04
      +6
      Education must be given appropriate and there will be no mistakes ..
      There he was taught a boy, made a speech in Germany .. By the way, Gazprom taught a fool ...
      1. Saling
        Saling 21 November 2017 09: 27
        +6
        Well, what kind of education are you talking about in the current environment? Here, as it were, a new decree "On the Cooking Children Has Not Been Issued." laughing
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 21 November 2017 12: 25
          +1
          no offense, but judging by the use of the phrase about the cook, you, too, are not so hot with education))) you do not need to use the myths created by the liberals in the late 80s and early 90s hi
          Conscious distortion of a quote from the article “Will the Bolsheviks Hold State Power?” (1917) V.I. Lenin (1870-1924).
          “We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not able to take control of the state now .. But we [...] demand an immediate break with the prejudice that the government is carried out, the bureaucratic, daily work of the department is carried out only by wealthy officials or wealthy families . We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it begin immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training. ”
          1. Saling
            Saling 21 November 2017 12: 48
            +5
            Excuse me, but as they say, where are you with your snout then, and then in the right-wing ranks. T.N. the decree "On Cooking Children" has nothing to do with Vladimir Ilyich. This is the notorious, at one time, circular (1887) of the Russian Minister of Education, Ivan Davidovich Delyanov. As you can see by the date released during the reign of Alexander III.
            This decree instructed the school authorities to allow only wealthy children to study at the gymnasium, that is, “only such children who are under the care of persons representing sufficient guarantee of proper home supervision over them and providing them with the facilities necessary for educational classes ... In case of steady in compliance with this rule, gymnasiums and gymnasiums will be freed from the children of coachmen, footmen, cooks, laundresses, small shopkeepers and the like, who, with the exception of those gifted with extraordinary abilities, should not be taken out of the environment to which they belong. ”
            Isn't that a great topic to capture on the bas-reliefs of the monument discussed here? wink
            1. Saling
              Saling 21 November 2017 13: 01
              +4
              And be sure to quote Alexander III: “This is terrible, man, but he also crawls into the gymnasium!”
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 21 November 2017 10: 18
        +5
        Gazprom in general in the enlightenment field was noted "gloriously"!
        I would like to say that they are raging with fat, but in no way. The systematic work to destroy the historical memory of the Soviet people ... they are capitalists, bourgeois, it is simply foolish to expect another from them.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 25
          +4
          Quote: rocket757

          I would like to say that they are raging with fat, but in no way. The systematic work to destroy the historical memory of the Soviet people ... they are capitalists, bourgeois, it is simply foolish to expect another from them.


          Indeed, the regime purposefully destroys the Soviet past ... both social achievements, as well as cultural, labor, military victories ..
          1. Krabik
            Krabik 22 November 2017 15: 27
            0
            Well, they would just destroy the Soviet vulgar so GAZPROM systematically strangles the economy with high gas prices so that more can be sold abroad and the proceeds of the currency brought to offshore.

            As they say, GAZPROM is a national tragedy.
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 21 November 2017 11: 59
        +1
        By the way, Gazprom also taught the foolish ...


        somehow it's too thick
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 November 2017 12: 48
          +4
          Very thick !!! wassat

          The action of the Yamal schoolboy, sympathizing with the dead Germans, was evaluated at Gazprom. “Pride is simply that we have such youth”

          The story of a schoolboy from Novy Urengoy who spoke about the dead Wehrmacht soldiers in the German Bundestag was commented on by Gazprom. The concern is the curator of the school where the young man is studying. In a conversation with URA.RU, the head of the public relations and media service of Gazprom dobycha Yamburg LLC, Sergei Chernetsky, urged not to make hasty conclusions.
          “We hold many joint events, primarily career-oriented ones. When we communicate with them, our pride is simply that our youth are patriotic and not indifferent. ..............


          https://ura.news/news/1052313171?utm_referrer=htt
          ps% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com
  6. ICT
    ICT 21 November 2017 08: 28
    +3
    giant "monument - a statue of Alexander III


    “My son and my father were executed during their lifetime,
    And I shook the lot of posthumous disgrace
    I’m stuck here with a cast-iron scarecrow for the country,
    Forever dropping the yoke of autocracy "


    "Right! Right! Fat-assed martinet! Here he is all, here is all his reign! ”
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 21 November 2017 08: 42
      +5
      You quoted quotes of completely different people - the author of the first monument to Alexander III, then the rhyme of the famous silly proletarian poet, and then the author of the immortal picture about the murder of Ivan the Terrible by his son.
      The audience is motley, as are their quotes.
      1. ICT
        ICT 21 November 2017 09: 06
        +4
        Quote: bober1982
        The audience is motley, as are their quotes.

        the author of the first monument to Alexander III,
        as well
        "There is a chest of drawers, a hippo on a chest of drawers, a hippo on a hippo is revolving."
        , on a hippo and deo-from ( auto moder dumb ), an idiot hat.
        , on a hat a cross, who guesses - that under arrest
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 21 November 2017 09: 18
          +3
          I say, in those blessed times, I was shaking from the anger of liberal-minded citizens, and now they started to rave. The Tsar was hated for his well-known allies, and now these same allies, you can add the Russian Guard, the rest are extremely unreliable.
  7. Romanenko
    Romanenko 21 November 2017 08: 34
    +5
    I think that gentlemen, the British can stick their opinion deep in ....
    It’s not their dog business, where, when and what monuments the president puts on the territory of Russia.
    1. zhekazs
      zhekazs 21 November 2017 09: 21
      0
      Britain has not been Great for a long time, so the Britons are rushing about with their complex. I doubt that if there had been material about their queen, there would have appeared a lot of vile comments about her flaws. This is the difference between us and them. We do not need to rise, ridiculing someone's weaknesses.
  8. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 21 November 2017 08: 38
    +6
    That's right, history needs to be remembered and honored, as a result, these are the messages to the future generation.
  9. sq
    sq 21 November 2017 08: 51
    0
    They see only the rays of glory, and how much they have to work, plow, work hard and imperceptibly.
    No matter how good it is, everything will be small, and the slightest mistake, even that which I could not make, will be turned into a mortal sin. Such is the fate of a GOOD leader.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 November 2017 10: 23
      +4
      It would be good if this work was to the benefit of the common people too.
      And how to stand up for the homeland by the world, we are all patriots, all, as they say, are in order.
      But how the country's wealth for the benefit of all, at the forefront, and the rest crumbs from the master's table!
      It’s not for taking and dividing \ pulling everything into bins, for a decent, deservedly normal life of the whole people!
  10. Moskovit
    Moskovit 21 November 2017 09: 28
    +5
    Fat-faced Alexander, the insignificant Nikolashka, the German spy Lenin, the bloody monster Stalin, the senile Brezhnev ... When we begin to respect our history, ourselves. Even Gorbachev was a product of the era, I least respect him, but then the people longed for and wanted change, it is a pity that such a person appeared on their spike, but he was also our "king".
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 November 2017 10: 55
      +3
      And what could be expected in this direction of education? This sales is not for the level of education, but for the impoverishment of the vocabulary, including.
      As Zadornov would say, formatting a nation is the same as lowering it to its own, not very high level. The process has begun ... God forbid we will overpower this misfortune too !!!
  11. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 09: 30
    +6
    Monuments to tsars fit well into the framework of the almost official Black-Hundred ideology “for faith, tsar and the fatherland without communists”. Alexander III is known for his "decree on cook children", where common people were instructed not to be allowed to study in gymnasiums. In general, for a person with an institutional education who knows the laws of the development of society, dialectics and other philosophical things, turning to the monarchy as an institution of government of the state is wild.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 November 2017 09: 47
      +4
      + + + + +
      Unfortunately, Russia is slipping into "tsarist Russia", i.e. step back - all the signs of this begin to emerge. And the government stands for it ..
      The crunch of "French rolls" haunts ... belay
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 November 2017 10: 01
        +6
        Slides to tsarist Russia? Yes, no ... Just an ordinary sluggish personality cult. Putin does not want to associate with Stalin, but he doesn’t even oppose some kind of charitable king, grand prince.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 13
          +6
          If you look at the real appearance of the boyars, landlords, servants, and at the same time the glorification of Mannerheim, Kolchakov, Nikoya-2, Alexander-3, and others ... the cult of one person does not fit - there is a state policy, seasoned with church propaganda.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 November 2017 10: 44
          +4
          Quote: rudolff
          Putin does not want to associate with Stalin, but he doesn’t even oppose some kind of charitable king, grand prince.

          Dear Colleague! hi
          He can associate, but rather wants to with anyone, but not a hat for nothing!
          And for me, it’s just an ordinary publicist.
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 50
            +1
            you underestimate the "bullshit" .... wassat
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 November 2017 10: 57
              +2
              Quote: Nasr
              you underestimate the "bullshit" ...

              It seems that I overestimate him, even in that capacity.
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 21 November 2017 15: 27
            +8
            Quote: Stroporez
            And for me, it’s just an ordinary publicist

            The leadership of Israel, Syria, Saudi Arabia (continue on your own, this is not difficult) will not agree with you.
            It’s interesting that everything is also “propagated” there, or is it you, ahem ... a shift in perception? repeat
      2. 34 region
        34 region 21 November 2017 10: 33
        +5
        Fuck Today, 09:47. Here, we’re rather not slipping. Here, it was rather originally conceived. The return of royal symbolism speaks of ideas. Putin also seems to have a craving for the monarchy. If he has a negative attitude towards the Soviet past, then the tsarist past impresses him. No wonder apparently Poklonskaya came out with a portrait of the king. No wonder rumors are circulating about the burial of Lenin and the possible demolition of the mausoleum. At first, Lenin will be buried, then the mausoleum will be demolished. And then ...! How to know. Which president or king will open a center there. Why not? The place will be free. Center of the country. Yeltsin is on the periphery. Maybe he will be transferred there. Why not? For the monarchy, the capital should be moved to St. Petersburg ?! Well I do not know. I do not know. You never know. Suddenly, tomorrow the government will move to Winter!
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 39
          +6
          With these things it will become ... a little more and people will forget about pensions, hard workers will forget about dispensaries and health resorts, no one will say thank you to children for a happy childhood - it will not be ... everyone will work for 12 hours ... there will be no time think about social guarantees of the state! good
          1. 34 region
            34 region 21 November 2017 12: 17
            +4
            Fuck Today, 10:39. Prokhorov’s proposals for a 12-hour working day were a trial balloon. Today in the depths of the ocean are already thinking about the abolition of the 8 hour shift. Not profitable for business! Departmental dispensaries and resorts are history! It is simply amazing how the ineffective Soviet economy was pulling departmental medical facilities, sponsored educational institutions. Today, a highly efficient business completely gets rid of non-core assets and goes bankrupt! And offer him to build housing for his workers, to have his own clinic, sanatorium, rest house, kindergarten, camp, school, vocational school, technical school, institute, collective farm? Who like, but personally, I do not see any efficiency in capitalism. Purely profit. No efficiency. A person prepares food, sells, mops floors and all this for one salary! Is it effective? Kneading the dough with one hand and mopping the floors is a minimum violation of sanitary standards. But it is developed everywhere. And the watch. This work is 12 hours from two weeks and above. Today is the norm. It seems that today everyone works on a rotational basis. Some leave, others come. Is this also an effective working method? The Russian Guard is already pacifying the shift workers' trains while they while away their time home for liters of vodka.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 21 November 2017 12: 58
              +7
              +
              This is what we are talking about. But the people are blinded the restoration of the army and the military-industrial complex (here the aspirations of the people and Putin really coincide), under the impression of the 90s, under the influence of external aggressive forces - and does not understand (the people) that all the social gains of the past century have been taken away from him! Therefore, when the news about the release of airplanes, helicopters, ships comes out, people sincerely rejoice (and this is really good), but when they talk about the internal structure of the country, there is a stream of abuse towards the government ....
    2. skylare
      skylare 21 November 2017 10: 41
      0
      Alexander III is known for his “decree on cook children”

      Given that his father was killed not so long ago and the state was confused, you can understand him in some ways.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 47
        +6
        You can justify everything ... now the fascists under Stalingrad have justified and regretted ... you can understand the fascists too (your logic).
  12. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 10: 10
    +6
    Quote: Nasr
    Unfortunately, Russia is slipping into "tsarist Russia", i.e. step back - all the signs of this begin to emerge. And the government stands for it ..

    ---------------------------------
    Respect for one’s own history begins with the correct interpretation of events in this historical context, and not with monuments to kings. For some reason, we don’t have a normal monument to Generalissimo Stalin, who won with the Soviet people, and there is a monument to the weak-willed Nikolai the Second, and even more so, monuments and boards began to appear to frank traitors and collaborators like Kolchak and Shkuro. Then return Dzerzhinsky to Lubyanka if You erect a monument to Stolypin. But the authorities need Black Hundred patriotism, from which the "bloody tyrant Stalin" is easily thrown out and Nikolay II and the "walls of repentance" are put there. We lived in a modern socialist system, they want to return us to obscurantism and the monarchy. That is, two levels back. There was a railway junction and a “terminal” in place of my city for the export of corn, hemp, pine and oak to England. Soviet power built a city with factories and technical schools, a railway junction with 14 tracks, sorting and a slide. Apparently back to the warehouses.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 November 2017 10: 15
      +4
      Correct interpretation ++++ ++++
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 November 2017 10: 13
    +3
    trying to catch a glimpse of former royal glory

    We have at least some reflections of the former royal glory. And what remains of Britain - the “gleams” of curses in connection with colonialism, the poor spirit and the queen with offshore?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 November 2017 10: 59
      +6
      British Museum with treasures saved / plundered from all over the world?
  14. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 10: 23
    +2
    Quote: Nasr
    there is a state policy seasoned with church propaganda.

    -----------------------------
    Directly one in one with the Black-Hundred movement, the truth on the other hand is to lubricate the Black-Hundred cart of ideology with a liquid lubricant of a liberal postmodern and all this is topped up with anti-Bolshevik fumes. Here is such a bird-three.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 November 2017 10: 50
      +3
      Under Alexander 3, state anti-Semitism flourished.
      pogroms, more than a million Jews left for Russia
      (the latter fact is very positive for the Jews). Those who did not leave — youth — enlisted en masse as anarchists, Socialist Revolutionaries, terrorists, and socialists. They overthrew the Empire after 20 years, became the leaders of the revolutionaries.
      So Alexander 3 (in fact, who wished for the good of the Empire) and ruined it sad .
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 21 November 2017 11: 12
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Those who did not leave — youth — enlisted en masse as anarchists, Socialist Revolutionaries, terrorists, and socialists.

        You are mistaken here, all these young people sat quietly like mice. Under his royal son they unbelted, became impudent.
  15. Normal ok
    Normal ok 21 November 2017 11: 01
    0
    And why was the king sculpted in such a strange pose? As if sitting on the toilet. Have you regretted money on a horse statue?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 21 November 2017 12: 16
      0
      Nothing strange. By the way, the famous monument of Paolo Trubetskoy was known to be equestrian, and caused a lot of criticism.
      And for connoisseurs of history, on a bas-relief Trubetskoy initially portrayed, among other things, the conquest of Siberia by Ermak, and subsequently he abandoned this plot (with Ermak), but not because of historical authenticity, but as an “artist”
      And when the author of the modern monument, A. Kovalchuk, says that .......the sculptor interprets in his own way - then he is right, just as Trubetskoy was right.
  16. HMR333
    HMR333 21 November 2017 12: 38
    +1
    Putin personally set? ))) and to whom should they set if not for them and for the leaders can some unknown peasant who usually lived a simple peasant life ??? that’s precisely not figs to envy the monuments and the president!
  17. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 12: 52
    +2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Under Alexander 3, state anti-Semitism flourished.

    ---------------------------------
    What did the king say there? It is good that the Poles are smashing Jewish yards, but I, as a king, cannot approve of this. Here such a perdimonokle got out.
  18. Victor-M
    Victor-M 21 November 2017 13: 18
    0
    England also has something to boast about, offshore "mother" - the queen. laughing
  19. Sergey53
    Sergey53 21 November 2017 14: 52
    0
    The Britons don't like what he does? You better look at yourself.
  20. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 21 November 2017 16: 11
    0
    When will the monument to Alexander III be returned to its old place on Nevsky Prospect in St. Petersburg? For me, this is the most beautiful monument in St. Petersburg. What is the purpose of hiding him?
    1. ICT
      ICT 21 November 2017 18: 37
      0
      Quote: Alex Justice
      When the monument to Alexander III will be returned to its old place

      lol
      1. ICT
        ICT 21 November 2017 18: 38
        0
        ..............?
        Quote: Alex Justice
        What is the purpose of hiding him?

  21. Mentat
    Mentat 21 November 2017 20: 11
    +1
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    Sling cutter, your struggle has made your pursuit heavier.

    Quote: Nasr
    Putin is an enemy of the Russian people!

    Here it is, rather, in the struggle with a glass. If you touch too much, they will also not give out such pearls in a fever.
  22. Dart2027
    Dart2027 21 November 2017 22: 40
    +2
    The fact is that the Tretyakov Gallery and the Historical Museum in Moscow, presented on the bas-relief, were created several years before Alexander III took the throne

    Alexander III became king in 1881
    TG was donated to Moscow in 1892. It was hard to say whether this was the merit of the king, but he was already a king.
    IM in Moscow began to be created as a "Museum named after His Imperial Highness Sovereign Heir Tsesarevich", that is, Alexander III, that is, associated with him personally.
  23. Anyone
    Anyone 22 November 2017 00: 26
    +2
    As if Putin did not want to be considered modern Alexander III, but what is happening in Russia now more closely resembles the times of the Russian Empire under Nicholas II. The same universal ambitions of the monarch, general corruption of power and poverty of the population.
  24. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 22 November 2017 10: 23
    +7
    Quote: badens1111
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Let's just say: the first is not your business, completely and generally; not for you to decide.

    You already apologized once.
    Would you like me to make you do this again?

    Ka-a-aak interesting-eesno belay
    And more in any way from now on?