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US Department of State approved the delivery of Javelin ATGM to Georgia

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The US State Department approved a document providing for the delivery of a lethal weapons Georgia We are talking about the possibility of selling Javelin anti-tank missile systems worth 75 million dollars. This was reported in the American media with reference to officials in the US State Department and the Pentagon.


Earlier, Georgia requested deliveries from the USA of more than Javelin 400 ATGMs. In addition, the possible contract provided for the training of personnel of the armed forces of Georgia on the use of American anti-tank complexes.

US Department of State approved the delivery of Javelin ATGM to Georgia


If we consider that the price of one Javelin ATGM currently amounts to about 250 thousand US dollars, then we can say that the USA sent less complexes to Georgia than was requested by Georgia. Or we are talking about "used" systems.

The Pentagon says that the future supplies of the ATGM of the Georgian army will allow it not only to better prepare the material and technical base for NATO standards, but also increase the possibility of Georgia’s defense. Also added that the supply of Javelin ATGMs "will not upset the balance of power in the region."

If we consider that Georgia is actively selling various weapons to Ukraine, it is quite possible to assume that in the event that Javelin is delivered to Tbilisi after some time, part of the party will move in the Ukrainian direction. Recall that Ukraine which year has been trying to bargain with the United States for the supply of anti-tank systems to further unleash a new round of civil war in the Donbas.

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  1. dik-nsk
    dik-nsk 21 November 2017 06: 18
    +2
    why would they be against it? weapons are the largest export of mattresses
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 21 November 2017 06: 26
      +9
      Everything will go to Ukraine, the stump is clear.
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 21 November 2017 07: 26
        +9
        Quote: siberalt
        Everything will go to Ukraine, the stump is clear.

        It will be so. Moreover, such a "partnership" between the United States, Georgia and Ukraine "run in" on the eve of the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.
        At that time, overseas “well-wishers” paid for arms deliveries to Georgia, from a number of countries, including the non-profitable ones.
        1. Going
          Going 21 November 2017 08: 39
          +7
          Quote: siberalt
          Everything will go to Ukraine, the stump is clear.


          They pretend that no one will know.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 21 November 2017 10: 20
          +1
          Quote: Separ DNR
          It will be so. Moreover, such a "partnership" between the United States, Georgia and Ukraine "run in" on the eve of the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          At that time, overseas “well-wishers” paid for arms deliveries to Georgia, from a number of countries, including the non-profitable ones.

          Then Urkain delivered Buki to Georgia with Urkain calculations that shot down Russian planes. Most likely this batch of anti-tank systems is intended for urkaina, but it is shipped through Georgia so as not to annoy Moscow.
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 21 November 2017 09: 45
        0
        We will answer with regular deliveries of modern samples of South Ossetia.
      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 22 November 2017 08: 39
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Everything will go to Ukraine, the stump is clear.

        It is clear. Now, only, there remains the opportunity to intercept the transfer from Georgia .... Or a fire in warehouses.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 21 November 2017 06: 19
    +4
    What kind of musical instrument is it? The Georgian choir was surprised ....
  3. LSA57
    LSA57 21 November 2017 06: 22
    +1
    The Pentagon says that future deliveries of the ATGM of the Georgian army will not only allow it to better prepare the material and technical base for NATO standards, but will also increase the possibility of Georgian defense.

    I wonder who they are going to defend against? in 2008, "defended"
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 November 2017 06: 25
      0
      That's it. Threw everything .. And "Dana" and "Hammers" and the latest radio stations ..
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 21 November 2017 06: 25
    +1
    The author correctly spoke about the alleged future fate of these ATGMs: they will resell the APU and still weld it. They will get the Georgians as part of the aid, push rockets for cash!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 21 November 2017 06: 26
      +6
      Georgia actively sells various weapons to Ukraine
      So Javelins, consider delivering to Ukraine. Direct delivery is still crippled.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 21 November 2017 06: 37
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        So Javelins, consider delivering to Ukraine.

        and further to the Donbass lol
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 21 November 2017 07: 27
          +7
          Quote: LSA57
          and further to the Donbass lol

          You know ... Not funny.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 21 November 2017 08: 30
            +1
            Quote: Separ DNR
            You know ... Not funny.

            why? everything that the Yankees deliver to the VSU, sooner or later is in the hands of the militia. here is such a business at the forefront
            1. Separ DNR
              Separ DNR 21 November 2017 08: 34
              +4
              Quote: Separ DNR
              You know ... Not funny.

              Quote: LSA57

              why? everything that the Yankees deliver to the VSU, sooner or later is in the hands of the militia. here is such a business at the forefront

              And before (possibly) it falls into our hands, how much trouble will it do, how many deaths will it bring?
              And what do you know about the front line, and the losses that we have suffered ...

              And so about this, with the "fuckers" ... It's not beautiful, at least.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 21 November 2017 09: 44
                +1
                Quote: Separ DNR
                And before (possibly) it falls into our hands, how much trouble will it do, how many deaths will it bring?

                and forgive us, that something depends? what can we do so that it doesn’t get to vsu?
                Quote: Separ DNR
                Quote: Separ DNR
                You know ... Not funny.

                Quote: LSA57

                why? everything that the Yankees deliver to the VSU, sooner or later is in the hands of the militia. here is such a business at the forefront

                And before (possibly) it falls into our hands, how much trouble will it do, how many deaths will it bring?
                And what do you know about the front line, and the losses that we have suffered ...

                And so about this, with the "fuckers" ... It's not beautiful, at least.

                Yes, with a laugh at everyone who is selling their weapons.
                1. Separ DNR
                  Separ DNR 21 November 2017 11: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: LSA57
                  yes, with a laugh at all who sells their weapons

                  And what, a lot of facts of the sale (from APU to us), at least in the last two years, can you cite?
                  This is the main danger. In the assurance of “some civilians” that the APU is so worthless that they’re separated both in the tail and in the mane, and so on ...

                  NOT FOURTEENTH YEAR No. .
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok 21 November 2017 11: 03
              +1
              Quote: LSA57
              Quote: Separ DNR
              You know ... Not funny.

              why? everything that the Yankees deliver to the VSU, sooner or later is in the hands of the militia. here is such a business at the forefront

              Enough to repeat nonsense already. The news is really not funny.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 21 November 2017 07: 09
        +4
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Direct delivery is still crippled.

        This is when it was scotsiko to the Americans, someone to supply weapons? In various ways, insolently, secretly, as you wish, but they will deliver. Even if they know that everyone knows everything. They wanted to spit. I am interested in another question, that everyone is so worn with these "jewels", is that some kind of mantra? The whole world wedged together on these "Jewels"? Introducing the dialogue:
        - Give up.
        - Give up yourself.
        - Do you have a Jewel?
        - We don’t have any jewels.
        - And we have “Jewels”, so give up, you lost. laughing
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 21 November 2017 07: 29
          +2
          Quote: Orionvit
          - Give up.
          - Give up yourself.

          More like a dialogue of airsoft players. yes
        2. Krabik
          Krabik 21 November 2017 16: 12
          +1
          Javelins portable missile system with great power and allows you to shoot from a safe place.

          In short, this is the death of armored vehicles and helicopters.
          1. the47th
            the47th 21 November 2017 16: 47
            +2
            Only the "Javelin":
            1) a relatively short range;
            2) long preparation for firing - until the GOS cools down, the enemy tank will have time to leave the shelter, shoot and hide back;
            3) poor penetration.
            For the "death of armored vehicles and helicopters" it must be able to be very accurately and correctly applied. This is not a “Cornet”, from which it is possible to peel from a maximum distance and where it will go. If the "Javelin" did not get into the upper hemisphere - he only scratched the paint tank. The only advantage of the FGM-148 is the ability to leave the place immediately after launch, which is partially offset by long preparation and short range.
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit 21 November 2017 19: 37
            +1
            Quote: Krabik
            In short, this is the death of armored vehicles and helicopters.

            This is the number, and I thought it was some kind of new “kargokult”, which allows countries like Ukraine, or Georgia, to win galactic wars. But seriously, about the "death" of armored vehicles and helicopters, then judging by the hype, this is more like ordinary American self-promotion, which states have no equal.
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 21 November 2017 20: 15
              0
              See the description of Javelin.

              He threw him to the ground and he shot himself and knocked out a tank.
              Steeper only the star cruiser "Galaxy", by the way he is also American!
    2. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 21 November 2017 06: 27
      0
      I think everything is more prosaic. it is for ruins and supply. then with a smart look they’ll sit out of business
  5. Romanenko
    Romanenko 21 November 2017 06: 26
    +1
    Still, they found a way to supply Poroshenko with lethal "defensive" means.
    From Georgia, all this artillery quickly migrates to the ruin.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 November 2017 06: 26
    +1
    supplies of lethal weapons in Georgia

    This, what is now to wait for the next surge of "invincibility and power" of the Georgian army? In 2008, they were so proud of it that they themselves were afraid. Ukrainians will be offended by friends that they are only promised, and Georgia has already decided to deliver what Ukrainians have been begging for several years.
  7. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 21 November 2017 06: 28
    +1
    The point is that in transit through Georgia these ATGMs will fall into (on) Ukraine. yes Plain gray pattern request
  8. midivan
    midivan 21 November 2017 06: 28
    +2
    [/ quote] Given that Georgia is actively selling various weapons to Ukraine, it can be assumed that if Javelin arrives in Tbilisi after a while, part of the party will move to the Ukrainian direction.
    And the cost does not need to be taken into account? -
    Georgia has previously requested over 400 Javelin ATGMs from the United States. [Quote]
    This is not a lot of 100 lyams of greenery, but why did Georgia, which doesn’t fight with anyone, suddenly needed as many 400 pieces, wasn’t it expensive for training or was it all that good, that it wasn’t money for them anymore?
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 21 November 2017 16: 28
      +1
      This is not a lot of 100 lyams of greenery, but why did Georgia, which doesn’t fight with anyone, suddenly needed as many 400 pieces, wasn’t it expensive for training or was it all that good, that it wasn’t money for them anymore?




      100 Lyamov spend on the purchase, sell for 200 Ukraine, which will pay the money from the IMF loan printed money of the country of the manufacturer. The cycle of dead presidents in nature.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 November 2017 06: 29
    +4
    Yes, that they are worn with these Javelins, as with a written sack. Turned a weapon not tested in real combat into a "Jedi Sword".
    All world experience shows that no weapon is the most "sophisticated", is not all-devastating and decisive for victory ... Only in Hollywood "films".
    But myths of this kind create the illusion of "omnipotence." Will they try again? Where?
    In Abkhazia or in South Ossetia?
    1. K-50
      K-50 21 November 2017 06: 48
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes, that they are worn with these Javelins, as with a written sack.

      For all limitrophs, this is a sacred weapon.
      the same “Gustavs” from the Swedes are somewhat worse, not to mention our ATGMs, but the litter needs a “dart”. laughing
      1. infantryman2020
        infantryman2020 21 November 2017 07: 40
        +2
        Your competence in the field of anti-tank infantry means is at the sewer level. Better to chew ...
        1. K-50
          K-50 21 November 2017 08: 05
          +3
          Quote: infantryman2020
          Your competence in the field of anti-tank infantry means is at the sewer level. Better to chew ...

          So chew, I’m not bothering you. request
          Or did your food run out in the sewers?
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 November 2017 11: 28
      +1
      "Turned a weapon not tested in real combat into a Jedi Sword." ///

      Tested - in Syria and Iraq against ISIS.
      It was an interesting video, as ISIS armored "jihadomobile"
      rushing at full speed to the position of the Americans and the French.
      They start to plant it from machine guns - to no avail. Panic. The French start up from 1700 m
      a rocket from Milan (similar to a Cornet). Miss. Americans launch a rocket
      from Javelin - hit. And a grand explosion
  10. anjey
    anjey 21 November 2017 06: 45
    +1
    The US Department of State approved a document providing for the supply of lethal weapons to Georgia. We are talking about the possibility of selling Javelin anti-tank missile systems in the amount of $ 75 million.
    yes give them at least laser swords, as Georgia was and will remain like that ... not Europe, not the USA, it is not needed in the long run ... only as a country a provocateur on the Transcaucasian borders of Russia, which can be thrown ...
  11. K-50
    K-50 21 November 2017 06: 46
    0
    The Pentagon says that future deliveries of anti-tank systems of the Georgian army will not only allow it to better prepare the material and technical base for NATO standards, but will also increase the possibility of Georgian defense

    And from Georgia they "smoothly" migrate to Urkaina and "hello" aggravation. sad
  12. Landscaping
    Landscaping 21 November 2017 06: 51
    0
    Mishiko will probably decide that Abkhazia will not happen again.
  13. Herculesic
    Herculesic 21 November 2017 07: 09
    +3
    What is this nonsense? How can a used anti-tank missile system be? ?? fool Maybe we are talking about, say, a batch of missiles with certain defects, maybe with truncated capabilities, such as in range, but excuse me, used missiles ??? fool Did the author recreate them from fragments back ??? Please, edit the articles properly! !!!
    1. purple
      purple 21 November 2017 07: 55
      0
      not used, but with an expiring shelf life for example
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 November 2017 08: 29
        +4
        Quote: Herkulesich
        What is this nonsense? How can a used anti-tank missile system be? ?? Maybe we are talking about, say, a batch of missiles with certain defects, maybe with truncated capabilities, such as in range, but excuse me, used missiles ??? Did the author recreate them from fragments back ??? Please, edit the articles properly! !!!

        "Used" are those that stuck into the tank and did not explode, because Javelin but in English it is a "spear". laughing

        PS
        Defective missiles do not leave the factory, but are rejected.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 21 November 2017 07: 35
    0
    As I understand it, the supply story for the Javelin anti-tank missile systems is coming to an end? Apparently the United States does not want to directly supply anti-tank systems to Ukraine due to the aggravation of relations with the Russians, they will simply deliver them to the Baltic states and Georgia, Poland. And these countries themselves decide about delivery, supposedly on their own ....................
  15. Runoway
    Runoway 21 November 2017 08: 04
    +1
    Immediately and permanently block transfers from Russia to Georgia and Ukraine am
  16. Professor
    Professor 21 November 2017 08: 26
    +5
    If we consider that the price of one Javelin ATGM currently amounts to about 250 thousand US dollars, then we can say that the USA sent less complexes to Georgia than was requested by Georgia. Or we are talking about "used" systems.

    What ceiling is the price of $ 250k taken from?
    Command and launch unit (PBC) M98A1 Price - $ 126000 (2002 g.)
    Missile in a transport and launch container and power supply and cooling unit Price - $ 78000 (2002 g.)
    https://topwar.ru/35953-srednyaya-broneboynaya-or
    uzheynaya-sistema-javelin.html

    Order US MO 2015gg. 338 complexes for $ 77.7м. Total $ 230k for "piece". What is included in the "thing" is not clear. How many PBCs, how many missiles, and how much training, maintenance, and other associated costs are.
    http://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documen
    ts / defbudget / fy2015 / fy2015_Weapons.pdf # page = 60
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 22 November 2017 07: 58
      +2
      And delivery, a banquet, accommodation and business trips for delegations, and (!) His Majesty (drum roll), etc. Plus gifts, souvenirs and other small rubbish. Moreover, Georgians fellow
      Then, it turns out that the complexes themselves are almost free. recourse
  17. Equalized
    Equalized 21 November 2017 09: 08
    +3
    We have Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile systems “Skif” (more precisely, not purely Ukrainian like “Stugna”, but a version with a Belarusian aiming sight). Great news for the Georgian army. "Scythians" in the role of a long arm (hit at 5.5km), javelins in reserve. The mechanized units of the alleged enemy in a big asshole ... although do not think that we are going to fight, not at all. The current government, unlike Saakashvili, is pragmatic. We are working in a purely defensive direction, at least from the 2012 of the year there are no aggressive rhetoric on our part. Air defense was also bought in France, the first deliveries should be from 2018 of the year.


    And on the account of deliveries of these ATGMs to Ukraine - it is ridiculous! We have nothing else to do and supply them! Lol!
    They have almost the largest army in Europe and the production of their own anti-tank systems. Do not whine, let them do it. Presses. Just for free.

    Georgia bought Ukrainian missiles earlier than Ukraine itself. Significantly.
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 22 November 2017 08: 07
      +2
      Are you going to defend some missile complexes there in Georgia? What is from the earth, what is from the air? In the event of an attack by Armenia or Turkey, Russia may come to help, but not immediately. While we gather, while we agree with the Abkhazians and South Ossetians on the passage through their territory, missiles may not be enough. yes
  18. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 21 November 2017 09: 08
    0
    Well, it means that from Georgia they (the "Javelins") will soon migrate to the Ukraine-type and the "wolves are fed and the sheep are safe" in American style. If "what", then "this is not us (Americans), this is Georgians ....." winked
  19. dvina71
    dvina71 21 November 2017 09: 38
    0
    Not ... Georgian javas. Ukraine doesn’t need .. Ukraine needs to get the PTRC precisely from the USA and for free .., it’s important.
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 November 2017 09: 51
    0
    Georgia previously requested over 400 Javelin ATGMs from the United States.
    ... read-they will give ukronatsistami .... angry
  21. datur
    datur 21 November 2017 10: 35
    0
    why are they all jerking off on javelins like they will solve all their problems drinks