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Transcarpathia is marching to Hungary

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Perhaps everyone has already heard at least the echoes of the scandal that erupted after the Kiev regime adopted the odious "Law on Education" prohibiting schooling in any language other than the state. I’ll draw attention to only one thing - Kiev is poisoned most consistently by Hungary, which has never been seen to be critical in its neighbor.

Interestingly, the first state to receive visible benefits from the Maidan, was Romania. Before that, the “quiet gray mouse” after the first Maidan obtained from Yushchenko a voluntary consent to consider territorial claims and agree with the decision of the European Court. After a brief trial, without much noise, a part of the Black Sea shelf with small oil and gas deposits was transferred to a neighbor.

We will not be distracted by questions about why Yushchenko has not yet been condemned in Kiev under the article not an assassination attempt, but the real destruction of "the integrity and borders of the state" - he did not give the Russian shelf, but a member of the EU and NATO.

Hungary is also a member. The same organizations. Friend, partner and other, other, other ...

And while not too hurt Kiev. Well, yes, the December summit of Ukraine-NATO broke Budapest. But everyone understands that there is no real exhaust from this meeting - NATO weapons will not give, will not give money and in the structure will not accept. So the damage tends to zero.

Yes, the day before yesterday, Hungarian Deputy Prime Minister Zsolt Shemien, commenting on the granting of Hungarian citizenship to residents of Ukrainian Transcarpathia, said that from the point of view of Budapest, Hungarians living in the region have the right to autonomy. So what? Rusyns are also recognized in all European countries as a minority and have a certain status and benefits. And in the same Transcarpathia, Kiev does not consider them to be people, and 26 doesn’t see years of emphasis. Similarly with the Hungarians. Well, they will even be given autonomy in a couple of districts of the region, and? That's what really lose Kiev? That's right, nothing.

In order to understand why spears are being broken, a notch should be made to the memory that the current Kiev regime relies only on far-right nationalists. No supporters are not that pro-Russian or leftist, and even just centrists, today have no words. The refusal of Bandera, Shukhevych, 14 of October and the "eternal struggle with Muscovites" is unthinkable - other forces do not support this regime.

But the problem is that two nationalism in the same territory do not survive. The same Hitler worked perfectly with the Italians and the Japanese, as he did not encroach on their sphere of influence. And Kiev and Budapest have a “Transcarpathian problem”.

Skiing there probably retained wonderful impressions of nature and the locals. Goodwill and penny services are great. But few people know what Transcarpathia really is.

From the first days of the collapse of the Union, I had to work in Transcarpathia. And drive cars from the border, and trade in factories - it was different. And in a small-caliber revolver on the ankle to walk, and with a machine gun in an embrace to sleep. There it was very bad with the laws in 90's, it became even worse now.

My first visit there in 92 began with a joke - tired and in a broken car at night I tried to explain myself to the locals, first in Ukrainian, then in Polish. They answered me only after the Russian abusive - very benevolently. And they helped. Is free.

By the way, even then there were not forwards dollars, but forint. Having stayed late after midnight more than once, I was taken to a "brother-svatu" in Hungary to try "his" wines - right through the garden. The region lived and lived by smuggling and cross-border exchanges, kinship ties and nepotism. The rich and those who have managed to stick to something are chopping up the Smereka (local spruce) and are driving the train to the EU, although formally it is forbidden to cut and export. Who is "poorer" - drives cigarettes on his hump or waggons - who studied for what. The poorest, and most of them, go to Hungary or further to earn money, leaving children, wives and old people at home.

As a result, the village died out. Female alcoholism is terrifying. For a quarter of a century that I had to watch all this, the cycle is defined. Men bring money and build a new house, while old men and wives are raising children. Postarev, move into it, and the grown children leave for work. Not all return and the village dying out.

Interestingly, the same local people did not want to work in factories built for them in Soviet times. He saw with his own eyes the burnt-out boxes of workshops burnt by the locals. They were not satisfied with the absence of days off on their religious holidays - and there were always a lot of believers. Catholics. Now seniors remember the times of the USSR with nostalgia: “Always there was a penny in my pocket and fish in rivers — in!”

But what the locals have not changed since that memorable 92 year for me is the attitude to the "neighbors". Curious by nature, I was not lazy everywhere to ask about relations with the Galician, who live nearby - through the pass. Briefly answer: "No relationship". If you insist, they are angry and they say: "We will blow up the tunnels, fill up the passes and go to Hungary together with these mountains."

Well, the mountains there are more imaginary, but the attitude towards Banderovites is very negative. By the way, this is unchanged from the time of Austria-Hungary - Transcarpathia and Galicia are completely different.

Characteristic touch. In 1992, I saw a hefty stone walker near a bridge. An inscription was stamped over the fresh fresh flowers on it that it was a memorable sign of the victory of a Magyar colonel over the Ukrainian army in a god-forgotten year.

Since then, the attitude towards the Galitsai and Kiev has only worsened. Local residents living by the border and tourists do not really see any “gesheft” from the central authorities. What is important, in this case, the nationality does not play a role - they live by the border and have nothing to do with the "Hungarian nation". Families here have large, family ties they support, all of them have a Kum-Swat brother who feeds abroad or at the border. Or tourists, at worst.

And local residents see how power has weakened in Kiev. They see strife and vacillation, they are discussing with might and main that it will be the best way for everyone to fill up the passes - Hungary "will take us with earth and sky"

If we do not forget that local nationalism is growing with the flow of Afro-Asian migrants to Europe, and it is the proponents of national values ​​that are quickly gaining strength, it is not surprising that several hundred thousand ethnic Hungarians and half-breeds in Transcarpathia sleep and see themselves in Vegria . Without moving from the place.
Like 99, the percent of residents who have nothing to do with this nation, but who want to go to the EU tomorrow with a house and a goat. With all the consequences ...

For this, one percent of the officials and patients for the head of Maidan patriots, they will easily “lose” in the local hills.

By the way, and in April next year in Hungary elections ...
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  1. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 21 November 2017 06: 52
    +1
    That's just the "will" of the people is promoted not by the people, but by politicians request
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 21 November 2017 07: 07
      +4
      Ukraine really no longer controls most of the Hungarian border. They managed to sell sections of the border into private ownership. bully
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 21 November 2017 11: 46
        +2
        But this know-how should be taken into account. For such a thing, you can take loans at any interest. smile
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 November 2017 07: 02
    +5
    Smart people even after the Maidan warned that Ukraine would fall apart. Everything goes to this, and the Ukrainian authorities, relying on radical nationalists, only contribute to this. Honestly, she died, she died.
  3. Odysseus
    Odysseus 21 November 2017 07: 07
    +4
    Already wrote, Transcarpathia would have sailed to Hungary (as well as Galicia to Poland) if it had been allowed by the United States. There is a desire of people, a desire of Hungary, but it does not matter.
    Until the supreme overlord of the United States gives the go-ahead, Transcarpathia will be part of the Maidan of Ukraine.
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 21 November 2017 15: 51
      +1
      Problem .... In Crimea there was also ... And the desire of the people and the desire of Russia, and also the United States were against ....
      But in addition to desire, people should have a WILL .... then everything will grow together .... and so all blah blah blah
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 22 November 2017 07: 23
        +2
        Quote: nPuBaTuP
        Problem .... In Crimea there was also ... And the desire of the people and the desire of Russia, and also the United States were against ....
        But in addition to desire, people should have a WILL .... then everything will grow together .... and so all blah blah blah

        There are no problems. Crimea was taken out of the control of the Americans immediately after the coup. And the Russian army were in Crimea.
        The rest of the territory of the former Ukraine remained under US control (Donbass disputed land).
        It is now impossible to bring Transcarpathia out of US control.
        1. BMP-2
          BMP-2 22 November 2017 23: 40
          +1
          With your first two theses - I completely agree: as if obvious. But with this - the argument would not hurt:
          It is now impossible to bring Transcarpathia out of US control.


          Did someone already try? What is this conclusion based on?
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 23 November 2017 22: 48
            +1
            Quote: BMP-2
            Did someone already try? What is this conclusion based on?

            And no one will try, because Hungary is not Russia! Not that scale. There is no independent player there. So it’s really impossible!
          2. Odysseus
            Odysseus 24 November 2017 04: 28
            +2
            Quote: BMP-2
            Did someone already try? What is this conclusion based on?

            No one tried, because it is impossible. Let's think: what forces can potentially bring Transcarpathia (wider all of Ukraine) out of US control?
            1) External a) Russia recognized Poroshenko’s elections, the power recognized by the Russian Federation since Ukraine on May 25. The level of Russia's internal influence is equal to zero, because for any pro-Russian sympathies they are immediately dragged to the SBU.
            b) Hungary. An insignificant country, even within the EU, it is impossible to imagine that it independently tears Transcarpathia from Ukraine.
            c) America itself. The idea is that the USA will get tired of the circus in Ukraine and they will leave there themselves. The idea is stupid, because with the help of Ukraine they create problems for Russia and Europe for free. Who will refuse such an instrument?
            2) Internal. That is, within Ukraine there will appear such social forces (no matter what political or ideological orientation) that can shift the Maidan power and take the country out of US control.
            At the moment, this is an absolute utopia. Such public forces are either officially banned (the Communist Party), or are under the strict supervision of the SBU with the label "separatists." No large Ukrainian parties (including Ukrainian pseudo-nationalists) offer anything like this.
            So far, at the moment there are no forces capable of taking Ukraine out of US control.
            1. BMP-2
              BMP-2 24 November 2017 20: 31
              +1
              Does this mean that you do not need to do anything and everything by itself once forms?
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 24 November 2017 22: 31
                +2
                Quote: BMP-2
                Does this mean that you do not need to do anything and everything by itself once forms?

                In no case. I just describe the situation that is now.
                The question of what to do with it requires a separate discussion. And then it is divided into two questions: what do all forces do in theory and the question what these forces want in practice based on their real interests.
                For example, it’s easy to now describe what the leadership of the Russian Federation needed to do in 2014 based on abstractly understood state interests, but for some reason they did everything completely wrong. Why? They all ? No.
                It's just that their understanding of the state interests and the best is very different from the abstractly understood interests of Russia. They have their own interests.
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 21 November 2017 08: 26
    +4
    “You are going the right way, comrades!”: I.V. Stalin! Eh. Hungarians were in our time: Jozhef Szabo, Lajosh Gabovda, Spartak-Mukachevo!
  5. Nemesis
    Nemesis 21 November 2017 13: 00
    +2
    This is natural, most of the Hungarians are there ... and the territories used to be Hungarian, and since Ukraine is in the heroes of Bandera, then such Ukraine is not a country of the anti-Hitler coalition.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 21 November 2017 17: 53
      +2
      Note to you. Hungary fought for the 3rd Reich before its surrender. Therefore, Bandera is an ally of Hungary and should be honored there, too, but this is not in the European trend!
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 21 November 2017 18: 44
        +2
        The difference is that in countries such as Hungary they recognized the crimes of the Nazis, and in Ukraine they deify them, in addition, Ukraine fought for the Third Reich until 1954 ...
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 21 November 2017 20: 53
          +2
          In general, you are right!
        2. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 23 November 2017 22: 54
          +2
          Quote: Nemesis
          The difference is that in countries such as Hungary they recognized the crimes of the Nazis, and in Ukraine they deify them, in addition, Ukraine fought for the Third Reich until 1954 ...

          Hungary will sign everything that the next owners will slip on it! They have not yet recognized the crimes of the Communists? So no indicator! Here, not far from Yekaterinburg, I have a mass grave of captured Hungarians. A very iconic monument. And until 1954, Ukraine was not at war, but some disadvantages. Do not distort!
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 24 November 2017 15: 20
            +1
            You throw Soviet tales out of your head. No deficiencies without the support of the local population could not have fought until 1954, so it was Ukraine who fought, the same Ukraine that burned Russians alive in Odessa ... The same Ukraine that is praying for Bandera today. The same Ukraine, which since 1994 fought against Russia in Chechnya and Ossetia ...
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 24 November 2017 16: 39
              +1
              Quote: Nemesis
              so it was Ukraine who fought, the same Ukraine that burned Russians alive in Odessa ... The same Ukraine that is praying today for Bandera. The same Ukraine, which since 1994 fought against Russia in Chechnya and Ossetia ...

              Have you personally been to Ukraine at least once? Did you communicate with the people?
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 24 November 2017 19: 34
                +1
                Where I was, this is not for the site. Communicated with them enough. More than I would like. And what I wrote here is not from the TV ... Ukraine, it is an occupier on Russian soil. Your people now serve in the ATO, pay taxes on the ATO, knock on Russians in the SBU and serve in the SBU ... Collects money for weapons for Bandera gangs .... The Russians in Odessa were also burned not by the Chinese, but by this very people whose heroes are Mazepa and Bandera ...
                1. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 24 November 2017 22: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  Your people

                  Whose people?
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 26 November 2017 20: 12
                    0
                    Well, not the Chinese ... We are talking about Mazepia with you and the descendants of Mazepa living on Dudaev Street, Bandera Square and in similar places ... Which, in your opinion, are not guilty of anything, and in my opinion, no less than the Nazis are to blame ... I don’t need to tell tales that in Ukraine there are three Bandera .. If there were 3 of them, everything would be different ... Most of them there ...
                    1. AllXVahhaB
                      AllXVahhaB 26 November 2017 21: 46
                      +1
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      .We are talking about Mazepia with you and the descendants of Mazepa.

                      We are talking with you, only you, for some reason, call the Ukrainians my people. The maximum what I have to do with it is that several of my aunts married Ukrainians back in Soviet times, and now they live in Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov.
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      Which in your opinion are not to blame for anything, but in my opinion no less than the Nazis are to blame ...

                      Do I understand you correctly that the Russian (Russian) people are guilty of the collapse of the USSR, the coup d'etat of 1991, the shooting of the parliament of 1993, privatization, plunder of the state and the entire Yeltsin’s orgy of the 90s? Do you feel personal responsibility?
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      I don’t need to tell fairy tales that there are three Bandera in Ukraine .. If there were 3 of them, everything would be different there ... Most of them there ...

                      The first time I was in Ukraine in 1981. I studied at school. The village near Zaporozhye. On each square, in each settlement, on pedestals - tanks, guns, planes ... Monuments. I played war games with local boys. They were divided according to the calculation into fascists and ours. Everyone wanted to be behind ours, except for one kid - every time, voluntarily, he chose the side of the Fritz. Which surprised me a lot. Then, somehow, we ran to his house to drink water. His father with wild, it seemed to me, eyes set us out of the yard. When I told my aunt’s husband about this, he said: yes, Bandera. Then I heard this word for the first time. 1981 - for everything, not a small village, one family of Bandera! The fact that now there are more of them is a merit of the USA and is our defeat. It was necessary to deal with Ukraine, and not let everything go by chance!
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      Most of them there ...

                      But even now they are not the majority. The bulk is an inert herd. People like a drawbar - wherever you turn, it turned out there. Despite the fact that Ukrainians are more individualists than we are. The main motto is my hut from the edge!
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 27 November 2017 11: 00
                        0
                        Everyone who swore allegiance to the USSR and violated their oath is responsible for the collapse of the USSR. First of all, the army and the officer corps, which allowed a coup d'etat in the USSR and fired from tanks at the legally elected parliament .... ,, Inert flock, '' you say ?! You know, when a murder takes place, and in Odessa there was a murder, an excuse like “Everyone killed and I killed '' is not an excuse and does not absolve the criminal from responsibility ... What was arranged in the Donbass is no longer murder, but genocide. ..in which the bulk of the population of Ukraine takes part ... As for Dnepropetrovsk, these same Dnepropetrovsk fought against Russia in Ossetia and Chechnya .... and the fact that Kharkov today caved in under Bandera’s people, says that there are most of them. ..
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 23 November 2017 22: 50
      +2
      Quote: Nemesis
      and the territories were previously Hungarian, and since in Ukraine in the heroes of Bandera, such Ukraine is not a country of the anti-Hitler coalition.

      I do not understand what you mean. Was there anything in the anti-Hitler coalition?
  6. Bosch
    Bosch 21 November 2017 13: 55
    +1
    Hungary will gladly accept the Transcarpathian region into its arms, although there is also a territory that belonged to the Slovaks.
  7. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 21 November 2017 19: 12
    +2
    Separation of Transcarpathia from Ukraine is possible only in the event of a total collapse of the state. That's when Russia will take what it should take. When after that Poland `` remembers '' about Lviv and begins to return its own. Then Transcarpathia will depart Hungary, without noise and dust. For by that time Ukraine will lose most of the signs of the state and will resemble Poland after the flight of the 1939 government.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 22 November 2017 07: 26
      0
      Sergei 777 Separation of Transcarpathia from Ukraine is possible only in the event of a total collapse of the state. That's when Russia will take what it should take.

      Outline to us the specific territory that the Russian Federation should take ....
  8. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 22 November 2017 01: 24
    0
    And local residents see how power has weakened in Kiev. They see strife and vacillation, they are discussing with might and main that it will be the best way for everyone to fill up the passes - Hungary "will take us with earth and sky"

    Meanwhile, the APU is ruining the 128 SSB. (former 128-th GDM SA) in the ATO ...., like ordinary infantry ...
  9. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 28 November 2017 21: 55
    +1
    Quote: Nemesis
    All who swore allegiance to the USSR and violated their oath are responsible for the collapse of the USSR. First of all, the army and the officer corps, which allowed a coup in the USSR and fired from tanks at the legally elected parliament ...

    You do not confuse the year 1991 with 1993? How old are you, by the way? And then the question arises ...