Moscow closes world trade

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Russia is becoming a key crossroads of world trade routes.





The strategic "friends and partners" did not have time to move away from the shock associated with the failure of the idea of ​​transport trade corridors bypassing Russia, as the West catches up with another disappointment. In the near future, huge cargo flows through the territory of our country will go not only from east to west, but also from south to north, as well as along the new Northern Sea Route.

Transsib and BAM

For the first time since the collapse of the 90, modernization of strategically important transport arteries began in Russia in the 2002 year. Since then, Transsib has acquired full electrification of the main line, reconstruction of seven key Khingan tunnels, a fiber-optic high-speed cable along the entire length of the path, and by 2015, full tunnels - doublers to expand its capacity. Along the Trans-Siberian Railway, the railway track was updated, old installation errors were leveled, dangerous sections were fixed, and problem areas were eliminated. In 2009, the reconstruction of the Amur Bridge and, later, the Amur Tunnel was completed. Created a lot of new hauls, sidings, septic tanks and sidings. The number of trains capable of simultaneously being on the way, as well as the maximum allowable speed of their movement, has dramatically increased.

In 2013, the second link of Transsib with the Chinese railway network was put into operation. At the same time, according to RZD estimates, the throughput capacity of the Trans-Siberian railway increased to 120 mln. Tons. Is it a lot or a little? Of course, a lot. Suffice it to say that this is more than 10% of the carrying capacity of the main global maritime artery - the Suez Canal.

BAM has evolved somewhat less rapidly. By 2013, the line had a capacity of 16 million tons and now continues its modernization development. The reason for this state of affairs is the priority of the state task. The expansion of the Trans-Siberian Railway was necessary for our country to redirect global transit flows to its own territory, while the modernization of BAM, a more protected and new artery, was required by the state for the development of domestic transport infrastructure, civilian targets and military needs.

As a result, by the implementation of current plans, by 2020, the total traffic volume of both routes will have to grow by more than 40% and, according to Russian Railways, be more than 272 mln. Tons.

MTC North-South

If the development of Transsib and BAM is a national project of a transport corridor between the East and the West, the concept of development of seaports in the Caspian basin, approved a few days ago, has become a transit strategy from north to south. Formally, its common task is to strengthen the economic and geopolitical presence of our country in the Caspian Sea. However, in reality, the main goal is to “lure” the export routes of the southern world economies: Iran, India and the Persian Gulf states onto the Russian transit network.

The framework agreement for this project was signed by Russia, India and Iran back in the 2000 year, and later, in 2002, all the states included in the project ratified it. Most of the further period, "North - South" was in limbo. The West strenuously created numerous problems on its way. GUAM as a belt from unfriendly states (Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova) and at all forced India to say goodbye to the project for a while. Only after the 2008 events of the year, as well as China’s decision in principle to start building its own Silk Road, the situation changed radically, and Delhi dramatically stepped up its participation, and Russia, after forcing Georgia to peace and actual destruction, GUAM restored railway communication with Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan - Turkmenistan and Iran. And since 2009, all the other project participants have begun the implementation of the Indian-Russian corridor.

The eastern part of the route (through Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan) was completed in 2014. The construction of the western part rested on Iran and the undeveloped railway infrastructure of Azerbaijan. Difficult terrain, mass of tunnels, networks that have not been updated since Soviet times — all this has delayed implementation. But despite this, by February 2017, the Russian Railways and the Azerbaijani railways still closed the last contour of the western corridor and began to organize the direct transport “India-Iran-Azerbaijan-Russia” and back.

To date, the North-South corridor has several branches built: the main “Buslovskaya - - St. Petersburg - Moscow - Ryazan - Kochetovka - Rtishchevo - Saratov - Volgograd - Astrakhan” with a length of 2513 km; Trans-Caspian - using the Russian sea ports “Astrakhan”, “Olya”, “Makhachkala”; Western — through the border crossings of Russia and Azerbaijan; and the Eastern branch - direct rail service through Kazakhstan.

Thus, North-South is being implemented at a good pace, routes are reasonably diversified to bypass potentially volatile former Soviet republics, traffic capacity is growing, and the project itself is developing quietly and without unnecessary noise. All the ways of the new route somehow pass through Russian territory. And the railways of our country occupy in it from 33% to 53% of the total length.

Overland Silk Road

The monopoly of Transsib as a transcontinental transit route has always wanted to destroy many of our “friends and partners”. The TRACECA project, for example, which assumed the movement of goods through western China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and then by sea through the Caspian Sea, the South Caucasus and Turkey, was cherished even in Celestial. However, in order to deliver cargo from China along this corridor, Beijing had to use the ferry: Kazakhstan - Azerbaijan. Then, to get to Turkey, a ferry from Georgia was required, and all the way I would have to withstand four container transshipments, four customs borders, as well as almost constant unloading and loading of cars, taking into account the different permissible weights of various railways.

The Chinese tried to bypass the Caspian through Turkmenistan and Iran, but in fact this made little difference. There are no good railways, single-tracks are laid at the entrance to Eastern Turkey, followed by mountains, lakes and ferries again in the plural. For this reason, the “New Silk Road”, which runs completely bypassing Russia, is inconvenient and unprofitable for China. And all the talk about him, as a rule, is limited to traditional anti-Russian propaganda and liberal media that love loud headlines.

Nevertheless, it should be noted that the main route of the Silk Road runs through Kazakhstan and the European part of Russia, bypassing the Far East and the north of the country. The reason for this lies in the fact that the western territories of the PRC are extremely lagging behind in their development from the eastern ones, and if all goods for export will come from Eastern China directly to Transsib, the western regions of the country will be left out of their potential development. In this regard, the People's Republic of China initially planned to diversify its supplies in several available areas. Part of the cargo must go through the Russian Trans-Siberian trunk along its entire length, part through Central Asia, while the main overland flow will go through all of internal China from east to west, to Kazakhstan, the European part of Russia and further to the EU. From the very beginning, the Silk Road could not pass through the entire country from the Far East.

The Russian route is beneficial to China by the fact that, unlike the Caspian areas, cargo moving from China only twice crosses the customs border (from China to the EEU and from the EEU to the EU), otherwise they follow without any additional transshipments , unloading and other encumbrances. This is also beneficial from a financial point of view, since the logistics infrastructure of Kazakhstan, both rail and road, initially had access to Russia, while the modern infrastructure is only being built along this path. Thus, in terms of the totality of parameters, our country has been and remains the main land corridor from Asia to Europe, and being modernized every day.

The ports of the Far East and the eastern Trans-Siberian Railway will also not remain unused. In addition to partial Chinese exports, Japanese and Korean suppliers actively rely on their infrastructure. This means that losses in this direction are not expected in the near future.

Sea Silk Road

Another aspect of the key project for Russia “One Belt - One Way” is the arctic route for goods. In July, 2017, the meeting of PRC Chairman Xi Jinping and Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reaffirmed that Moscow and Beijing strictly intend to lay the sea Silk Road together. Three active routes in the Arctic: the northeast, northwest and the north-north are not equally suitable for this, and therefore Russia and the PRC intend to use only the north-east direction. Firstly, it reduces the delivery time and minimizes the number of icebreakers involved.

Secondly, it is this route that almost completely runs in the Russian Arctic zone. And thirdly, it is here that there is the greatest lack of port and logistics infrastructure that Russia desires to improve and develop. The north-western route is ice-bound, the north-north route passes through the North Pole, and the north-east route almost completely belongs to our country.

90% of China's goods are shipped to the West by sea, so the Northern Sea Route opens up enormous financial prospects for it. Russia, for its part, receives from the project the development of an enormous scale and potential of the internal region, large transit duties, diversification of the economy and political levers in the form of a global artery that can replace even the Suez Canal in the future. It is no accident that our country openly declares that it is ready to grant the right to use the route to other states and companies, striving with all its might to increase the volume of transported cargo, as well as to use the largest Russian icebreaker in the world fleet.

In 2017, at the stocks of Russian shipyards at the same time, there were 11 new icebreakers of various types. Yamal LNG, being actively built in the far North, was also not built as a simple LNG terminal. Thanks to him, in the near future, in the middle of the Northern Sea Route, a full-fledged year-round sea port will appear with ship repair and search and rescue services, with an airport and railway line, with self-sustainability, security, and many, many others. All this will significantly reduce the risks and, consequently, increase the attractiveness for commercial carriers, the icebreaker fleet and the Northern Sea Route.

Today, goods from China are shipped to Europe via the Suez Canal, the length of this route is 22 224 kilometers. The Northern Sea Route, however, requires only 12 964 kilometers to be covered. So, the huge investments of China and Russia, the melting of glaciers and the overload of the Suez Canal give every reason to believe that the Arctic route has every chance of becoming the central link of the “New Silk Road” in the near future, and Russia, in turn, modernized Transsib, BAM, the North-South corridor and the Northern Sea water area - the main pillar and center of intersection of all world trade routes.
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  1. +7
    21 November 2017 15: 24
    If everything works out, it will be a grand victory and the subsequent prosperity and development of the country.
    1. +30
      21 November 2017 16: 48
      Yeah, again the permalogue is the "silky way" belay
      But what have our “helmsmen” already abandoned ideas about artificial intelligence? belay
      I don’t understand whether I have one déjà vu or in some country under the namber of the 404 promised permogues in quantity the same amount or have we already beat them? what
      "Forces", "Potoki1-2-3", "silky roads", "artificial intellects", "25-million jobs," program 2012,2020 "catch up with and overtake Portugal", "raise the GDP by 2 times." .... and why not "open life on Mars by 2024"?
      Or, instead of all these "Great accomplishments", you can do a few simple things: reduce the payment for utilities and gas by 2 times, and the salary and pension at least 1,5 ?!
      1. +1
        21 November 2017 20: 17
        Quote: Stroporez
        Yeah, again the permalogue is the "silky way"

        The TRANSECA project is so European.
      2. +8
        21 November 2017 22: 41
        pay a reduction of 2, and a salary cut of 1.5? Original, sir!)
        1. +1
          22 November 2017 09: 50
          Quote: Harry.km
          pay a reduction of 2, and a salary cut of 1.5? Original, sir!)

          raise))))
      3. +9
        22 November 2017 06: 15
        Can i ....


        It is impossible. Because of all these projects, the local and foreign "beneficiaries will get all the benefits, and the people will cover the costs. And if you cut the prices for housing and communal services, gasoline and raise salaries and pensions, then the people will be seen as the beneficiary, and the" costs "will go to the fat cats ". Our idiots in the government and their" extortion "from the" economic bloc "as a devil of incense to be afraid of the" extra "money from the people will then be supposedly harder to target inflation, but the freaks are not aware that the" extra "penny will simply go to the store to pay for services and so on, that is, to the economy, and not to the stock market for buying foreign currency, as bankers and other "fat cats" will do in this case ...
        1. +3
          23 November 2017 12: 54
          Yes, it was already, when we were raised monetary allowances every quarter by 30-40% (1993) ... I don’t even want more of such rises, in the coffin I saw them, such rises ...
      4. +1
        23 November 2017 15: 48
        Quote: Stroporez
        "Forces", "Potoki1-2-3", "silky roads", "artificial intellects", "25-million jobs," program 2012,2020 "catch up with and overtake Portugal", "raise the GDP by 2 times." .... and why not "open life on Mars by 2024"?

        They forgot about nanotechnology. laughing Something somehow I don’t hear anything at all for our victories on this front. And how much noise was about this. But apparently the whole steam went off the whistle. Now boobies for boobies are yelling about the digital economy. I drank on nanotechnology took place, it's time to cut further. We’ll notice the non-flying nanotechnologies under the mat without any noise.
        1. +2
          23 November 2017 15: 55
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          They forgot about nanotechnology. laughing

          One hundred sorry, I forgot what laughing
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          I drank on nanotechnology took place, it's time to cut further.

          Now the World Cup on the nose, the saw is already running wassat
          1. +1
            23 November 2017 16: 15
            Quote: Stroporez
            Now the World Cup on the nose, the saw is already running

            It’s a pity that I don’t seem to get it. Tickets are too expensive. At the winter Olympics also failed for the same reasons. Still, such events do not happen every day. And it’s a pity that there is so much dirt around these events.
            1. +2
              23 November 2017 16: 22
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              It’s a pity that I don’t seem to get it. Tickets are too expensive.

              This is not for you and me, you’ll have to look at the box ....
              Although changes in the country by that time can be a lot.
      5. 0
        24 November 2017 14: 38
        And this is all your Wishlist ????
        Or then it starts - and they forgot to reduce the price of a bottle by 2 times ... I want Merce for a ruble ...
        And then, to have a minimum in Germany !!! a pension of 850 Euro, you need 40 years to pay monthly deductions with a minimum German salary of 2400 euros / month. dirty. Or, accordingly, a smaller number of years, but with a larger salary.
        And a pension of 850 euros is far from chic by German standards. And gasoline there is 3 times more expensive, about housing and communal services, medical care, insurance, etc. generally we are silent.
        About German labor productivity too.
        Suggest options.
        1. +1
          24 November 2017 16: 25
          Quote: Vlad.by
          And this is all your Wishlist ????
          Or then it starts - and they forgot to reduce the price of a bottle by 2 times ... I want Merce for a ruble ...

          Are you talking to me?)
          1. 0
            24 November 2017 21: 16
            But does anyone else demand an increase and a decrease?
            Yes, with specific numbers ...
            1. +1
              28 November 2017 19: 48
              Quote: Vlad.by
              But does anyone else demand an increase and a decrease?
              Yes, with specific numbers ...

              And do you have a detailed answer or briefly? what
              You can of course about FeREG
              Quote: Vlad.by
              And then, to have a minimum in Germany !!! a pension of 850 Euro, you need 40 years to pay monthly deductions with a minimum German salary of 2400 euros / month. dirty.

              To put it mildly, you exaggerate, did you equate the minimum pension to unemployment benefits? But you voiced min. S / n correctly, double those we multiply by 70 = 168000 scattered Syrsky .. Do you now begin to argue that in FeREG you can’t live on this money? And about free higher education there, you don’t want to mention? And about the social. housing? The Germans have a normal, calm, measured zest, and if we say that the products there even for our money are pennies, and the bread there is bread, not fillers and rippers, then in comparison with the Russian Federation, FeReGe is a paradise.
    2. 0
      27 November 2017 16: 49
      If everything works out, it will be a grand victory and the subsequent prosperity and development of the country.


      Of course it is, but the cost of transit through the Suez Canal is THREE TIMES cheaper than along the Northern Sea Route.
      1. 0
        28 November 2017 16: 17
        And without blah blah tsifiri on costly positions is weak to bring for comparison?
        Type costs for fuel, products, water, team maintenance on the Suets / NSR route, calls at ports in routes, navigation, piloting on routes, permission to pass on the Suets / NSR, icebreaker escort ...
        and then pure arithmetic.
        For the "bazaar" is enough to answer?
  2. +10
    21 November 2017 15: 27
    Moscow closes world trade


    A loud and premature announcement. We cannot build a modern automobile road strip of 3-4 from West to East, but there too. The railway does not stand up to criticism in terms of speed of cargo transportation. It’s easier and cheaper to ship everything by sea. We are rather losing our chance to become a world transport hub, but there is a chance. A unique position between the largest markets of China, the EU and the USA. If you could still build a road to Alaska and tie America, but where to. The road, then build a normal from West to East have not yet been able.
    1. 0
      21 November 2017 17: 24
      Yes, if you need to send 10 kilograms of cargo, it’s cheaper and faster to send a car. And if 10000 tons? What will be cheaper and faster?
      1. +2
        21 November 2017 17: 43
        Quote: ytsuken
        Yes, if you need to send 10 kilograms of cargo, it’s cheaper and faster to send a car. And if 10000 tons? What will be cheaper and faster?


        It is clear that it is impossible to compete with the sea in some things, but still a lot is transported by rail and road, and if we had a normal infrastructure, then the flow of goods would go.
    2. +1
      21 November 2017 20: 19
      Quote: Orel
      We cannot build a modern automobile road strip of 3-4 from West to East, but there too.

      No one can note you.
  3. +12
    21 November 2017 15: 30
    Yeah! But for some reason, prices are rising, goods are becoming more expensive, regardless of hydrocarbon prices, the rich are getting richer, the poorer are poorer .. For whom are you reporting on future successes? Again for the next generation? Even Jews are already telling us directly. CHANGE the economic politics, learn from China if you want to become an independent powerful state, and do not feed foreign and your speculators.
  4. +14
    21 November 2017 15: 31
    The strategic “friends and partners” had no time to move away from the shock associated with the failure of the idea of ​​transport trade corridors bypassing Russia

    Given that Russia has never been a transport corridor for the West, the statement is extremely strange
    As a result, by the implementation of current plans, by 2020, the total traffic volume of both routes will have to grow by more than 40% and, according to Russian Railways, be more than 272 mln. Tons.

    In the distant 2000, 5 billion 100 million tons of cargo were transported by sea. Now, of course, more. But a 40% increase in the trans-Siberian railway (i.e., approximately 78 million tons), of course, will make Russia the center of transport routes laughing
    It is no accident that our country openly declares that it is ready to grant the right to use the route to other states and companies, striving with all its might to increase the volume of transported cargo, as well as to use the largest Russian icebreaker fleet in the world.

    At the same time, in 2011, as many as 34 (THIRTY-FOUR) foreign ships passed the Northern Sea Route! In 2015, however, only eighteen.
    Suez Canal - about 18.
    So, the huge investments of China and Russia, the melting of glaciers

    Yeah. And the alien invasion of course
    1. +1
      21 November 2017 17: 28
      Yeah. And the alien invasion of course

      have you seen them too?
      now I’m watching them outside the window
      1. +1
        21 November 2017 19: 08
        Quote: antivirus
        have you seen them too?

        Of course! They are flooded from glaciers laughing
        1. +2
          21 November 2017 19: 34
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Of course! They are flooded from glaciers

          Quote: antivirus
          have you seen them too?
          now I’m watching them outside the window

    2. 0
      21 November 2017 23: 24
      ... so the question arises, was the Chelyabinsk meteorite a meteorite ???
    3. 0
      23 November 2017 15: 57
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      In the distant 2000, 5 billion 100 million tons of cargo were transported by sea. Now, of course, more. But a 40% increase in the trans-Siberian railway (i.e., approximately 78 million tons), of course, will make Russia the center of transport routes

      The Northern Sea Route can do this, but for this it is necessary that these scum saw less money and work more. The Trans-Siberian Railway must be developed, in the light of further urbanization, demographic problems, this issue is especially acute. We need a normal cohesion of the regions of the country, otherwise this is a sure way to the collapse and loss of territories. But do capitalists care about the country's problems? They can only eat until they burst. HSR Moscow-Kazan is smoothly turning, is turning smoothly .. into HSR Moscow-Vladimir. We don’t have money for it, but effective managers are not embarrassed at the end of the year to once again pay bonuses that are enough to make the entire Trans-Siberian Railway. And we will be told on television about reconciliation, patriotism and the need to tolerate another 30 years and then everything will work out, well, or the donkey will die.
  5. +10
    21 November 2017 15: 33
    The Northern Sea Route is not a competitor to the Southern. Ice class vessels are needed, and this is a completely different economy.

    The Chinese Silk Road project is not a railway route, it is a mechanism for China's expansion into Central Asia.

    Transib is now clogged. Alikharchs drive coal and ore for China for copecks. They have very good discounts up to 70% of the tariff. For passenger transportation and delivery of high-tech cargo, on the contrary, tariffs are prohibitive.
    1. 0
      21 November 2017 20: 22
      Quote: ism_ek
      For passenger transportation and delivery of high-tech cargo, on the contrary, tariffs are prohibitive.

      Russian Railways carry people at a loss.
      1. +1
        22 November 2017 08: 02
        For the transportation of a wagon of coal from Kuzbass to the Far East, Russian Railways receives about 100t.r. For the transportation of a full reserved seat car with passengers on the same route, Russian Railways receives 450 tr.

        Transportation of a wagon with grain from Altai to the Far East costs 260t.r. With a forest of 280t ... Explain to me why coal tariffs are 2,5 times lower?

        USSR - did not send coal and ore for export. Carrying passengers, machines and cars was more profitable.
        1. 0
          23 November 2017 13: 07
          1) Different tariffs for different cargoes, the Russian Railways international tariff is tied to the tariffs of other countries and all this is linked in SMGS
          2) And with coal everything is simple - the train poured it and rode it, and only specially trained people can load the wood according to special laying schemes with fastening with screeds - and all this is manual, observing the size
          3)
          Quote: ism_ek
          USSR - did not send coal and ore for export.
          - The USSR ALWAYS exported ore, coal, and timber (there were even 2 special GOSTs in the USSR for export timber exported through Novorossiysk and the north), grain, and all other resources ...
          Do you doubt it? Look - what the USSR supplied to the Third Reich ...
          1. 0
            28 November 2017 11: 31
            Quote: your1970
            USSR ALWAYS exported both ore and coal

            He didn’t send either ore or coal for export to the USSR.
  6. +10
    21 November 2017 15: 54
    From all this world trade, closed to Russia, the Russians still do not see anything. Our "super" financiers just get the hell out of all the money, and to the country's economy, as always, HORSE !!!
  7. +11
    21 November 2017 16: 09
    For some reason I remembered Skolkovo - the center of science and high technologies .. The mass of optimism is no less disappointing ..
    It is understandable: geography, prerequisites ..
    Author, do you believe ?? I'm tired :(
  8. +5
    21 November 2017 16: 17
    Wow, how many pessimists) Any article on the development of Russia is ready to peck) It feels like just spitting instead of being glad that the country is developing a little.
    1. +15
      21 November 2017 16: 24
      Exactly it should be developed, and not to feed with empty predictions about tomorrow's greatness and victories. If you collect all the super-optimistic forecasts of the Russian under-authors, they have already approached the Galactic Empire in power. Here you look out the window, and there again gasoline rises in price. It is necessary to do and speak in fact, and not to dream about what will be a bright tomorrow. Passed already.
      1. +2
        21 November 2017 16: 28
        And you not only peek out the window, you walk the streets, look around ... There are enough problems, I agree, but no one promised that it would be easy. And the country, nevertheless, lives and slowly develops.
        1. +9
          21 November 2017 16: 31
          I'm talking about gasoline, you're talking about developing. Clear. laughing
          1. 0
            21 November 2017 17: 32
            and one and the other are wrong. gasoline and development is a reflection of the mentality of the people (s) of the Russian Federation. he changes slowly.
            need cheap gasoline, barked like thunder, and will give joy. you need nano-technology "take out and put it, otherwise you will be poisoned to the block" - taken out.
            while tricky balance.
            1. +5
              21 November 2017 18: 26
              Quote: antivirus
              need cheap gasoline, barked like thunder, and will give joy. you need nano-technology "take out and put it, otherwise you will be poisoned to the block" - taken out.


              Yeah then they catch up and still add cheap gasoline. Do you know why going up? Excises raise, that's why. This is the topic of no money, but you hold on.

              - How will we replenish the budget?
              - Can we raise taxes?
              - And another option?
              - Fees. It seems not a tax, but if you look at the profile then the same file.
              - Hmmm ... (Thought our government and did not become penny wise. Raised and excise taxes and taxes.)

              Here is ** ## & you and all the development.
          2. +3
            21 November 2017 17: 45
            So it’s not interesting about gasoline) Everything is stable with gasoline - it only rises in price)
        2. +5
          21 November 2017 17: 54
          you walk the streets, look around ... There are enough problems, I agree, but no one promised that it would be easy
          show the street where you saw the development. For example, in our country, the streets are paved twice as much, and people with pensions of 9 thousand are like that. As for the promise, it’s not easy, you are talking about a bright future, because the current government does not promise anything from the word at all. We just have to love them by default. And they will provide a life for themselves.
          And by the way, what do you mean by the word development?
          1. +1
            21 November 2017 18: 07
            I will not talk about pensions, because I do not fully own the issue, but my parents do not complain and do not starve. On the roads - in our region, asphalt has been laid a lot in recent years, not always where I would like to, but not twice, and what I especially want to note - this asphalt lies much longer than before. And no one forces anyone to love or not love me, I just have a good memory, I remember what was and see what is.
            1. +6
              21 November 2017 18: 27
              Less Today, 18:07. I also remember how it developed and was built in the USSR and I see how it bends today. Exit the porch in the evening, footage of the disaster film. Asphalt has not been laid and laid for a long time. The one that is, it is water soluble. Latki really pat. But they do not lie for a long time. Six months maximum. So do not pour here about the new asphalt which lies well and for a long time. Russia still needs to master the technology of production of asphalt and the technology of its laying. But this is apparently a very complex technology, at the level of iPhone and Otpad.
              1. 0
                21 November 2017 21: 22
                So there is no need to fill in here about new asphalt which lies well and for a long time.
                Three or four years ago, the asphalt was completely changed on the 70-ty (seventy) kilometer section, I have covered this entire section at least twice a month, back and forth, there is not a single patch on the asphalt, so I know what I'm talking about. The year before, the asphalt was changed on the central streets of the city - over the years, patches were needed only in one section of 300 meters, six of them were put there ...
                I also remember how it developed and was built in the USSR and I see how it bends today.
                What was built during the USSR for the most part was bent into the 90.
                1. +3
                  22 November 2017 02: 42
                  Less Yesterday, 21:22. If Moscow or controlled by Gazprom, then it can and mastered to lay 70 km of asphalt. But judging by our Volgograd-Saratov highway, asphalt without patches and ruts with cones, the thing is unrealistically fantastic. Although the road contains Rosavtodor. But even he cannot afford to master the technology of road construction! Because such things begin to appear within a month after installation. And three or four years without repair is not a real time. Therefore, the track is constantly being repaired. Six patches for 300 meters is also fantastic. Six per square meter is closer to the truth. But by spring, all patches will melt together with water. And it is a reality. A month before the championship, of course, they will put things in order. Why in a month? Because for more simply there will be no guarantee of relative quality. What was being built in the USSR began to be bent in the 90s, but not it itself was bent. Every year, enterprises close. Every year, the population of settlements from villages to cities is reduced. Only Moscow is growing.
                  1. 0
                    22 November 2017 07: 56
                    If Moscow or controlled by Gazprom, then it can and mastered to lay 70 km of asphalt.
                    Overpowered in the province ... In Moscow I go once every 10 years and then travel ... And each time, as evil, Red Square is closed for walking)
            2. +5
              21 November 2017 18: 30
              Quote: Less
              I remember what was and see what is.


              Are you right about 90 remembered? It was the year of 2050, and in the Russian Federation 90 was still frightened .... laughing
              1. 0
                21 November 2017 21: 23
                Well, what to do) I remembered)
        3. +1
          23 November 2017 13: 25
          Dear, Loess. I read your comments and rejoiced at your extraordinary optimism. In our region, it’s not up to optimism. I immediately remembered a joke about a bear and a hippopotamus. (B. turns to M.: “What is so sad? Life is beautiful. Look at me how I rejoice.” M. thoughtfully, looking at B., he answers: “I would slurp your mouth and honey”). Each person makes his impression of the world on the basis of incoming information from his environment. Everything is fine with your surroundings. And here we have ... Here you have information about the development of the country from our point of view. Tell about the development of the country to the employees of these enterprises.
          "... The day before, the first hearings were held at the Arbitration Court of Chuvashia on the claims of Vnesheconombank" (VEB) on declaring insolvent enterprises of the Tractor Plants concern (KTZ). Observers have no doubt that this time Promtractor, Cheboksary Aggregate Plant, " Promtractor-Promlit ”, about 10 smaller enterprises of the concern in Chuvashia, as well as Agromashholding, KTZ plants in Lipetsk, Volgograd, Kurgan will be declared bankrupt. Never before - not in the dashing 90s, and especially not in the 2000s - Chuvashia I didn’t go through the bankruptcy of my enterprises of such magnitude ... Even without touching on the social consequences that threaten tens of thousands of concern employees in the territory of Chuvashia, it should be noted that the bankruptcy of KTZ is in some way a technological challenge for the Arbitration Court itself. Pravda PFD reliably it is not known whether an industrial empire of such a scale has ever gone bankrupt in Russia, but the AS of Chuvashia has never once accepted so many insolvency claims at the same time. from one applicant. In October-November, VEB filed for bankruptcy of the parent company KTZ - KKU Concern Tractor Plants, as well as the Cheboksary Aggregate Plant, the Cheboksary Steel Plant, Sarex, Avers, and Industrial Machine Service - and about 10 more legal entities only in Chuvashia ... "
          P.S. Comment from the forum (https://forum.na-svyazi.ru/?showtopic=2580858&am
          p; st = 585) regarding the bankruptcy of the Cheboksary Tractor Plant.
          • cenmax8a Nov 19 2017, 20:20: “The worst thing about this is that they destroyed the human potential, the work of skilled workers. The status of a working person was abolished, but under the Union, the worker was the main driving force of the country's economy. For several more years we will lose even those specialists who stayed at this plant. Now young workers on equipment at private firms receive at least 30 thousand in Cheboksary and why should they go to this tractor? "
  9. +2
    21 November 2017 16: 33
    Russia will become interesting in terms of logistics only when, during global warming, the northern sea trade route becomes accessible all year round. In comparison with sea transport, both railways and pipelines objectively look very, very modest.
    1. +1
      21 November 2017 18: 31
      Dzmicer Today, 16:33. *** during the course of global warming, the Northern Sea Trade Route will become available all year round. *** There is still a warming issue. With warming, rainfall and wind speed will increase. The swamps of Siberia will melt and there will be a lot of dirt and the stink of methane coming from thawed swamps.
  10. +4
    21 November 2017 17: 03
    Quote: Less
    Wow, how many pessimists) Any article on the development of Russia is ready to peck) It feels like just spitting instead of being glad that the country is developing a little.

    Quote: Less
    And you not only peek out the window, you walk the streets, look around ... There are enough problems, I agree, but no one promised that it would be easy. And the country, nevertheless, lives and slowly develops.

    Well, probably, for starters, you need to decide on the concept that there is development)
    For example, for me, this is an increase in the well-being of citizens, in general, not of individual units .. At a minimum, confidence in the "tomorrow", affordable medicine and education for children (sorry for the cliche).
    What we see now: grandmothers with grandfathers don’t “fatten”, at least families plow in “four hands”, and only .. Chotsialka, slowly “cut” .. The price tag, for everything, grows, permanently (despite on statements about difflation. WHAT IS IT ??
    Height??? for sure, for some, yes.
    Then the question is, where is the social justice, about which all the irons and ironing boards shout ??
    .. I, not a poor person, from
  11. 0
    21 November 2017 17: 07
    Quote: Siberian barber
    Quote: Less
    Wow, how many pessimists) Any article on the development of Russia is ready to peck) It feels like just spitting instead of being glad that the country is developing a little.

    Quote: Less
    And you not only peek out the window, you walk the streets, look around ... There are enough problems, I agree, but no one promised that it would be easy. And the country, nevertheless, lives and slowly develops.

    Well, probably, for starters, you need to decide on the concept that there is development)
    For example, for me, this is an increase in the well-being of citizens, in general, not of individual units .. At a minimum, confidence in the "tomorrow", affordable medicine and education for children (sorry for the cliche).
    What we see now: grandmothers with grandfathers don’t “fatten”, at least families plow in “four hands”, and only .. Chotsialka, slowly “cut” .. The price tag, for everything, grows, permanently (despite on statements about difflation. WHAT IS IT ??
    Height??? for sure, for some, yes.
    Then the question is, where is the social justice, about which all the irons and ironing boards shout ??
    .. I, not a poor person, from

    Sorry for the spelling)
  12. +1
    21 November 2017 17: 12
    The fact that over the past few decades, China has been dealing with similar issues and the money allocated for this suggests that this issue will be resolved in the best possible way.
  13. +1
    21 November 2017 17: 19
    Quote: NF68
    The fact that over the past few decades, China has been dealing with similar issues and the money allocated for this suggests that this issue will be resolved in the best possible way.

    Keyword - China (
    1. +1
      22 November 2017 17: 06
      Keyword - China


      Without China, the modern world, not only Eurasia, can no longer be imagined. And China so far is only closing the gap with the most developed countries in the world.
  14. +4
    21 November 2017 17: 48
    Soon
    I like these messages from the future, it has not yet happened, and whether it will be done, but you can already rejoice today. It’s interesting how many of these “successes” of the current government have not yet happened, but vote or lose.
  15. +4
    21 November 2017 17: 51
    - The fact itself is simply not clear ... - It all boiled down to interest China, so that it chose Russia to deliver its goods through it ... - and that's it ... - the ultimate dream ...
    -And why doesn’t the question at all be raised about Russia itself becoming a source of goods for all occasions ... and delivering goods to itself even to Europe, even to Asia., Even to Australia ..., even to any part of the world ...
    - Why should Russia try for the sake of China ..? -Just in order to get crumbs from the Chinese, it has become and to increase the power of China by 1000 times ..? “It’s clear to everyone, with the opening of the Silk Road, the whole world just releases Chinese gin from a sealed, durable vessel ... -What then ..? - You can’t drive him back ...
    -Russia today can do without Chinese money (all the same, after all, China has not provided loans to Russia) and begin to expand its production with might and main ... -Even today Russia can supply all kinds of fish and seafood processing products that are not produced at any The Baltic Sea or the Mediterranean ... -directly from the Far East, from Sakhalin, from the Kuril Islands .., and even from those islands on which Japan is so "hopelessly yearning" ... -Why Russia is the Chinese Silk Road ..? -Russia needs to create its own path ... -Yes, Russia today can "cover up" its entire path with only one forest ... -this is just for a start .., and then with grain, commercial fish, crabs ... -And then and anything, any goods that it’s starting to produce ... it’s only worth starting ...
    1. +1
      21 November 2017 18: 35
      gorenina91 Today, 17:51. Oh! Great questions! I am also surprised! Why doesn't the government ask them? Why is everyone hoping for an uncle who comes and raise the Russian economy?
    2. +2
      21 November 2017 18: 42
      Quote: gorenina91
      Yes, Russia today can "cover up" its entire path with only one forest ... -this is just for starters .., and then with grain, commercial fish, crabs

      Sorry, the forest is no longer necessary! Problem with this! I with DV if that ...
      1. 0
        21 November 2017 18: 52
        -You are from the Far East .. why then write about the forest ..? -You need to write about fish and crabs and about bracken and other far eastern "uniqueness" ... -And let other regions write about the forest ...
        - Here, finally, the "Iwashi herring" has reappeared on sale ... -In Russia, they have long been bored for it ... -And Europe is very willing to "sink" on this fish ... -Only offer ...
    3. +1
      21 November 2017 19: 26
      Quote: gorenina91
      which will start to produce ... -it is only to start ...

      But in order to start producing, you must first invest in the development of some kind of production. And the transit of goods through our territory is real money to our treasury. There will be no transit through our territory, cargo will go the other way. Do you advocate giving this money to other countries, sometimes unfriendly to us?
      Quote: gorenina91
      Why does China need the Chinese Silk Road ..? -Russia needs to create its own path

      And what's wrong with the fact that Chinese goods will go through Russia to Europe? This is part of its WAY - namely, diversification of the economy - moving away from the raw material orientation. These are new icebreakers that are already being built in Russia and the reconstruction of railways - and this, in turn, is all related industries (steelmaking, assembly, installation), services (banking, financial, etc.), jobs, salaries, taxes .
      Quote: gorenina91
      “It’s clear to everyone, with the opening of the Silk Road, the whole world just releases Chinese gin from a sealed durable vessel ... -What then ..? - You can’t drive him back ...

      But nothing, that in China the growth of salaries has sharply gone and it is already impossible to underestimate the yuan? Do you need to explain further?
      1. +2
        21 November 2017 19: 59
        -Yes., Exactly ....- I am for giving this money to other countries, even unfriendly to us ...- This money will not give Russia anything ... -they will simply force Russia to play in the “lower league”. ..
        -This money can ghostly and temporarily "raise" Kazakhstan, partly Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan (through whom this "silk road" will be laid there) .., but they immediately lose their sovereignty .., become like "silk" and go into the category "camel drivers" ... -and the Chinese only need it ... -China will simply devour them and in 10-15 years these states simply will not be ... -de facto ... -For Russia, this is the way ... -just the real catastrophe ... -If Russia had just begun to take independent steps and ... here ...
        -Even America is ready and agrees to take huge losses so that this entire “Silk Road took place” ... -America will immediately breathe freely ... -She then will have only one rival ...- China ... and Russia just will be released ...
        1. 0
          21 November 2017 20: 28
          On the contrary, very many countries only dream of being transit countries, because in fact it is easy money. Maintain highways and logistics hubs at a modern level, for this get jobs and transit duties. What is wrong with this and what does any minor league have to do with it? Due to the transit of foreign goods, we are developing our transport infrastructure, which is also used by the Russian manufacturer, in turn, developing and enlarging our business.
          Quote: gorenina91
          This money can ghostly and temporarily "raise" Kazakhstan, partly Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan (through whom this "silk road" will be laid there) ..

          It’s quite real money, a constant and guaranteed income to the treasury for the same salaries to state employees, pensions, the army, etc. Permanent - because both Europe and China, and the rest of the countries along this route, it is constantly vital to exchange goods between each other and the business chooses the shortest and cheaper way of logistics in this regard.
          Quote: gorenina91
          but they immediately lose their sovereignty .., become like “silk” and become the category of “camel drivers” ... and this is just what the Chinese need ... -China will simply devour them and in 10-15 years these states simply will not ... de facto

          But the Chinese need it, to crush someone for themselves? They have their own west (China) still to develop and develop. And all these tales about Chinese expansion are greatly exaggerated. And Russia certainly does not threaten to lose sovereignty.
          Quote: gorenina91
          Even America is ready and agrees to take colossal losses so that this entire “Silk Road takes place”

          Not true. Silk Road mattresses - that bone in the throat. Well, the essence of them is this, to sit on everything where you can cut money easily. It is difficult to imagine how many Amer companies or companies with their capital will lose logistics orders for the delivery of goods by the southern route. Here they will in every possible way put a stick in the wheel.
          Quote: gorenina91
          and Russia will simply be released ..

          It is not necessary to write off Russia early. Rather, the staffer will go on the run, after all, China and I will have more history on the planet.
          1. +2
            21 November 2017 20: 57
            -What are you writing..? - China has accumulated industrial potential ... - It is suffocating ... - What is the domestic market there ..? -If in China everyone wants to increase their salaries ... then all the same, they won’t be enough ...
            -And if in the near future China does not enter the operational space .., then its entire economy will begin to crumble right before our eyes ... -It stands on clay feet ... -All of today's prosperity of China is ephemeral ... -about a billion Chinese just on the verge of poverty, without any social guarantees ... -And if they suddenly require good living conditions and existence ..?
            -And when the Silk Road takes place, then it will be quite easy for China to attach this whole huge army ...
            -Yes, the Americans reluctantly went so far as not to impede China ... -this is just a necessary measure ... -they will "beat back" their positions anyway if Russia collapses ... -that they are counting on. .. -And then America will be left alone with China ... -And America has a faithful and loyal vassal ... -the whole West Europe ... -And advanced Japan in the east ...- the mortal enemy of China ... -So, despite today's allegedly "economic prosperity" ...- China is unlikely to stand in such a "confrontation" ...
      2. 0
        22 November 2017 02: 49
        zhekazs Yesterday, 19:26. *** Now, in order to start producing, you must first invest in the development of some kind of production. And the transit of goods through our territory is real money to our treasury. There will be no transit through our territory, cargo will go the other way. Do you advocate giving this money to other countries, sometimes unfriendly to us? *** Similar speeches were about oil and gas. We will create the Russian emirates and we will live richly on oil and gas! laughing
        1. 0
          22 November 2017 12: 55
          Quote: Region 34
          Similar speeches were made about oil and gas. We will create the Russian emirates and we will live richly on oil and gas!

          Well do not be naive. And oil and gas and transit are streams that nourish our economy and the more there are, the better. I expressed my point above and am not going to repeat myself. Our economy needs this transit, even if it does not give an exhaust right away, but the income will be stable over time. Everything is done correctly by our government and, if you do not understand this, it does not matter, other people see and understand this.
  16. +2
    21 November 2017 18: 16
    Another cheers-patriotic campaign in favor of EdRa. Bullshit. To increase freight traffic by 40%, you must at least have the appropriate number of rolling stock. Have you built so many electric locomotives, diesel locomotives, cars? No. So no need to lie.
  17. +1
    21 November 2017 18: 16
    In 2013, the second link of the Trans-Siberian Railway with the Chinese railway network was put into operation.

    Do not understand! Where is this bow? The track in China is 1435 mm European, it is easier for them to "close" with Europe.
    Railways easier start remodeling the track from the “royal” 1520 mm to the European one to fit into the cargo flows between Europe and Asia. Otherwise, there will be only domestic transportation or a change of carts, which is now present, which is "not a bang."
    Minuses of alteration of gauge: lower carrying capacity of cars, expenses for alteration (considerable, moreover, but, “if you hadn’t stolen”).
    Pros: speed of delivery, no change of trolleys, a single track, and hence dividends on transit cargo (plus the organization of cargo hubs and distribution of goods).
    What is in China? And here is what:

    More than 50000 km of high-speed railways for passengers by 2030. Constantly modernized freight dedicated network that does not intersect with the passenger one in general soon. The speed of the freight trains is 120-160 km per hour. A freight train from Beijing reaches the border with Kazakhstan in less than 2-3 days (record 40 hours). And here, the "mutota" (change of carts) begins, which "resumes" on the border with the European gauge.
    Construction of a second cargo and passenger line to Tibet from Chengdu.
    Still for comparison. Passenger train from Harbin to Shenzhen (Hong Kong) with 1 change, though (in Wuhan) will deliver you in 20 hours. Lyapota?
    And that's not all! Freight wagons for new (!) Containers specially designed for “peregrine” wagons for delivering fast cargo by rail are introduced into high-speed passenger trains (200-350 km per hour).
    And one more thing, Pan-Asian Railway:
    1. 0
      22 November 2017 20: 32
      Russian Railways is easier to start redoing the track from the "royal" 1520 mm to European Dear, andy.v.lee. Have you thought what you wrote? not a single country in the world will go to change its rut, it’s crazy money, except that it has an exp. length of about 150 km.
      1. 0
        25 November 2017 16: 14
        Mad. On short - it is quite possible. Suppose a high-speed cargo and passenger line border China - port Vostochny. I don’t think it will be. But the Russian Federation in general may soon fall out of the East-West corridor. China will not leave efforts to enter Afghanistan, linking Turkey and East Turkestan, it leaves the Russian Railways out of business altogether. True, this is very far. But China is very stubborn.
  18. +2
    21 November 2017 18: 19
    Another attempt to wishful thinking. In this case, Russia acts only in the role of one of the many implementing partners of the will of the Celestial Empire, in the implementation of its latest Eurasian transport and logistics strategy.
    1. 0
      21 November 2017 20: 21
      Quote: romb
      Another attempt to wishful thinking. In this case, Russia acts only in the role of one of the many implementing partners of the will of the Celestial Empire, in the implementation of its latest Eurasian transport and logistics strategy.

      Vodichki drink and oholoni.
      1. Not in the role of one of ..., but in the role of the main. The length of the route, and did not go round Russia in any way, but tried.
      2. And since we are the main ones, then we have the keys to the "path".
      3. China workshop of the world, let them bring to Europe quickly. Europe, China and Russia benefit.
      4. For 1000 years we controlled the "way from the Vikings to the Greeks." Ah, you were petty, don’t remember.
      1. +1
        22 November 2017 08: 41
        Getting to know the Chinese initiative: "One belt and one way."
        And stop writing all sorts of stupid patriotic chants. wink
        PS Thanks for the water!
  19. 0
    21 November 2017 19: 44
    Ways, roads ... Meanwhile, commuter trains near Moscow are becoming completely private. CPPK intends to sell its stake to a little-known private trader by the end of this year. This was approved by the Governor of Moscow Region Andrei Vorobyov. Routes, routes ... Brooks in private pockets. The property of Russia is being sold further. The company “Route Systems” won, which agreed to pay about 2,3 billion rubles for a blocking stake in CPPK. In this company, Artyom Olkhovsky has 99%, according to SPARK-Interfax.
  20. +1
    21 November 2017 20: 02
    AUTHOR: The TRACECA project, for example, involving the movement of goods through western China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and further by sea through the Caspian, South Caucasus and Turkey, was cherished even in the Middle Kingdom.
    And you are friends, as you don’t sit down, everyone is not good at musicians.
  21. +1
    21 November 2017 20: 33
    I just don’t understand one thing. They have been talking about the Northern Sea Route for a long time, and why does it not work?
    After all, there are icebreakers, there are transport vessels, I thought that just gradually the traffic will go to a more profitable route and eventually load it.
    And so I hear: "It will be." It that one day on New Year's Eve will be launched?
    1. 0
      25 November 2017 18: 29
      NSR is not profitable either in cost or in speed. Alas!
  22. zav
    +3
    21 November 2017 21: 19
    Development is when own production in industry and agriculture grows, and power and large companies respond to the demands of the times and build new paths. First of all, for internal inter-regional relations, so as not to impede development. Silk, south-north and other streams, including gas streams, are not development. This is a service to the development of others, observing the degradation of their own population. Because being a switchman and a loader or being an engineer and mechanic are two big differences.
  23. +4
    22 November 2017 16: 05
    The article is typical manilism.
    The fact is that in 2016, they were going to sell the port of Nakhodka. Do you know why? Because "he brings a loss."
    Think it over, people! PORT DAMAGES.
    Now open the map and see where the Find is. And tell HOW a port in the Far East can cause loss - if China, Japan, Korea are nearby?
    And to whom does he make a loss?
    Oh yes ... this is not a sale - privatization ...
    As said I.V. Stalin "Every mistake has a name, surname, patronymic." (with)
    1. +1
      22 November 2017 20: 44
      if it’s about a trading port in a find, my mother works for me there - before 4 docker shifts around the clock right now, one call team ... no work. the walls are empty. the raid is empty. there is no transshipment of cargo ... and the same story with the fish (generally died) port. trading port. container terminal. somehow the oil port and the coal terminal are moving. Reasons - prices - for customs duties (3k for clearance). Dear domestic raid. pilot service .... marine logistics is several times more expensive than Singapore. Well, they closed the round forest and used Japanese auto industry .... finita
      1. +1
        22 November 2017 21: 01
        And the reason is simple - greed :)
        1. 0
          25 November 2017 18: 33
          The greed and stupidity of the officials of our government, border guards, customs officers and all sorts of limitless supervision. Fishermen generally call our ports enemy.
      2. 0
        27 November 2017 13: 56
        A specially planned action to create the illusion of loss. Freaks were paid for price increases and loss of competitiveness. Standard option (((
        Private traders will soon come, having received the port for a penny and profit will go, but not to the treasury (((
  24. +1
    22 November 2017 17: 04
    Keyword - China


    Without China, the modern world, not only Eurasia, can no longer be imagined. And China so far is only closing the gap with the most developed countries in the world.
  25. 0
    23 November 2017 11: 17
    And also a cast-iron bridge would be good ... right to Beijing. Rave.
  26. 0
    23 November 2017 12: 39
    All this will be built on the money of Russian citizens (taxes, excise taxes ...), and then sold on the market or privatized by left-wing investors, the result will be like in a movie: we will go to the station and watch Diesel trains running past us The Bucharest-Sinai electric train has proceeded ... "Such is the essence of capitalism, that in order to become rich one needs to be made poorer.
  27. kig
    0
    23 November 2017 13: 18
    Here a bright future is painted, which should be provided by rail and sea transport. I don’t understand anything in railway transport, but marine ... People who are not familiar with shipping believe that it’s enough to make icebreakers, and it will be possible to transfer all world trade routes to the Arctic. They have no idea that icebreakers alone are not enough. What would it cost the author to look at the website of the NSR Administration and read the Rules for Navigation in the Northern Sea Route there? And it says: for vessels without ice reinforcements, sailing from January to June is prohibited. For information: over the past 10 years I have worked on many foreign container ships with a capacity of 5000 to 10000 containers, and none of them had an ice class. And that means what? This means that a shipowner who decides to use the NSR will have to order new vessels. And they will be more expensive. And for passing along the northern route, our country will quite rightly take money, and not a small one. And the shipowner will have to somehow recoup these costs. Therefore, his reasons must be very convincing. So the author of this opus began to calculate profits too early. Well, since he writes not only about the sea route, I believe that the rest of his "hooray" is also taken from the ceiling. I heard a ring, but knows where he is.