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How about ... blinked the system of glorification of Nazism

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“We must immediately check the educational programs of the Novy Urengoy gymnasium!” - are outraged in the Federation Council. “We need to punish the director, the teacher stories and those who composed such a text and agreed for a high school student who spoke in Germany! ”,“ they may have missed, missed, misunderstood, ”say the local legislative assembly.


Hack tails, carry out backdating, - this is not to take away from our regulatory agencies. If, in the text, thirty-three times not to mention that ISIS is a banned organization in Russia, then they will definitely take care of you-comrades from Roskomnadzor will run, they will send numerous letters with notifications that the case is being brought to court, because .

In general, the fact is that the case in the Bundestag forced Russia to be outraged, and officials pay attention to the fact that "not all gymnasiums are equally useful." The fact that there are educational standards, but often these standards do not even closely take into account such a simple and completely unambiguous concept as “conscience”.

What is this material about? The fact that the case of the Novy Urengoy gymnasium student is only the tip of the iceberg. The tip of a huge iceberg, which is the result of the work of the real system itself, the purpose of which is one: revising history, planting among the younger generation of seeds of doubt about the significance of the victory over Nazism, the abolition of traditional values, the glorification of what was never acceptable to the Russian people. And this is not only an education system, which has long been launched on gravity, and the entire discussion of which by the bureaucratic apparatus has recently been reduced only to “how well the students in your school have passed the EGE.” It is also an information environment, which frankly makes one doubt that someone from responsible officials is interested in the younger generation in the country.

Separate information resources, to which today's young people have direct access, often act on the very templates, which give the modern child / adolescent a reason to think about whether it is necessary to consider the feat of the Soviet people as a feat. “But wouldn't it have been necessary to surrender Leningrad, Stalingrad, Moscow to the Hitlerites” - “now they would all live in burghers and sip exclusively freshly brewed German beer” ...

The administrations of social networks to inquiries about the need to pay attention to overtly extremist and Nazi propaganda groups in which there are hundreds, thousands of representatives of the Russian youth, often either not at all (even the official request from the media) do not respond, or send a reply from the series: "There are button "complain" - dare ".

And even now I am in a difficult situation: if you submit full links to such groups, the Roskomnadzor mentioned above will accuse Nazism in propaganda of not at all those who create and supervise such groups, but our information and analytical portal. Like, we had to tell us, and we would have figured it out ourselves later. So after all appealed repeatedly. Here are just a bureaucratic machine is clearly not keeping pace with the person, spreading information about the "good nations, on which the" advice "just slandered." For the time being, the controlling authorities will react to the request, which, in their opinion, should “be properly laid in the drawer of the table”, in extremist groups they are celebrating the subscription of the next thousand visitors. For now, the experts will find out whether the group in which Adolf Hitler is called “an outstanding politician of the 20 century”, and his army as “the army that cleansed the planet” is extremist, is the group that will be renamed ten times, will re-register and will continue to powder our brains children with triple strength. From the series - try and prove, try and catch up.

Next - offhand groups that feel great in the social network VKontakte. Again, in order for the “Military Review” supervisory authorities not to accuse of propaganda, it will be necessary to modify the names somewhat.

The groups “This is all Germany”, “Fuhrer” and others. Recently, the first mentioned group is not replenished with new materials, however, it is enough to “old” to conclude what goals the group pursues. Here is what the user who created the “public” writes in the preface (the author's text is saved):

"History is written by winners" is a well-known phrase about the "veracity" of official history. The same can be said about the Third Reich and Adolf Hitler.
Hitler is considered a terrible butcher, a killer of millions, and simply not a man. We will devote the first part of our story to Hitler.
- Hitler was a bloodthirsty butcher and killed millions of people: there are always victims under the dictatorship. Let us now remember, against whom Hitler fought: against Jews, Poles, Gypsies, and the like, who flooded the whole of Germany. So that everyone can understand what is being said - I will compare them with Caucasians - they flooded Russia. Hitler just wanted to clear the country of them. What he did. Recall that in the USSR they also fought with the Jews (a Jew and a Jew were one and the same). And the Jewish Autonomous Region was created by chance - all Jews went there. EAO exists today.
- Hitler is not a man and a hero: even dictators are from a clan of people. Hitler was a literate politician (to raise Germany after the chaos and fulfill all election promises - and you are weak?), An artist (but he was not accepted at the academy), and a writer (well-known Mein Kampf). And his "cruelty and inhumanity" - the opinion of this comes from his measures against the Jews in Germany.


So what do you think?..

Several other entries and illustrations to them:
Whatever scoops say, but the Germans were still people. And not bloodthirsty and cruel killers.


How about ... blinked the system of glorification of Nazism


Well, it turns out that the text of the high-school student seems to be already “correct” - after all, what kind of good people these Wehrmacht soldiers are - they wore kittens on their hands in a helmet.

"SS troops, say ... Yes, they were not monsters - see for yourself how this cat thrives":


In the same group, memoirs of German soldiers telling about “heroism” were actively published (and “hang” so far). One of these with an illustration:
Feldfebel Zermond, instantly assessing the situation, resolutely jumped out of his tank, climbed onto the Russian car and threw a hand grenade into the tower, thereby finally incapacitating the tank. (For this heroic act, sergeant major Zermond received the tank destroyer sign in close combat, being one of the few tankers marked with this sign).




It would be possible to pass by it that, as they say, not to force. Well, no - they passed by too long. So long that the social networks were literally filthy in such groups. They clone each other, they are engaged in frank propaganda of Nazism - openly and brazenly. These are entire communities where heroes are those who destroyed millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Poles. These are entire communities that actively enter into the educational system. By the way, the aforementioned "public" is entitled specifically as an "educational institution." That's it. They work, but we continue to chew, excuse me, snot and say to each other: well, why should I pull it all out, why should I get too much PR? No, this is not PR. This is an attempt to reach out to those who constantly declare how high the level of our education has soared, how well our children are protected, how much a teacher can fill in "kiloton" of the "most important" papers in a working day. Modern children will not believe what the clever mustache wrote in the textbook. It is enough for them to look at such a group and see a kitten, comfortably lying in an SS officer’s helmet, to make its conclusion about “innocent German soldiers - victims of the war”.

While some teachers were forced to get bogged down in papers, others take the opportunity to play on the conjuncture and put a plus in the "international events" section - after all, the creative, innovation, tutoring. Again, officials will report that innovations, including "educational Internet resources, support. See also additional funding will be knocked out. Of course, it is advisable to optimize schools in the village, and innovative clusters for schools to give birth to. Patriotic portals - "It is advisable" to press, and govnosayty from the category of liberal fakenews with the eternal whining in the style of "Rashka everything" will certainly support, so that the progressive West is suddenly not angry.

In general, while it only pretends that the information space is safe for the modern schoolchild, Nazi crap will continue to climb from wherever the opportunity arises. So far only pretending that patriotic movements are being supported is being done, nothing will fundamentally change. After all, we are dealing with a system, a system, in fact, of Nazi revanchism, which in local areas is completely visible front celebrates victory after victory over the minds of representatives of modern youth. And it is unlikely to dismiss this fact.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 November 2017 06: 48
    35
    In general, while it is only pretending that the information space is safe for the modern student, Nazi shit will continue to climb from wherever the opportunity arises.
    .


    - is it stupidity, or intent? and there are enough such "posters".
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 November 2017 07: 02
      37
      Woke up ... fucking .... What is happening a quarter of a century in our education .. this is a log ... finally they didn’t even see it. And they decided (and maybe they will change their minds today) to understand .. Yes, you brought this situation in the country .. It’s impossible for us to have Maidan? We have immunity? Horseradish with two! With such leaders and a generation brought up by them, the country will die. Do we raise our children and others? Tens of thousands, and then millions will go to “stinging” Nazis, Maydaunas and other scum!
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      In general, while it is only pretending that the information space is safe for the modern student, Nazi shit will continue to climb from wherever the opportunity arises.
      .


      - is it stupidity, or intent? and there are enough such "posters".
      1. dSK
        dSK 21 November 2017 07: 30
        +4
        The time of anarchy is ending, the pendulum of history has moved towards "mobilization and consolidation". What other options could there be? hi
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 21 November 2017 09: 25
          32
          sk Today, 07:30 ↑ New
          The time of anarchy is ending, the pendulum of history has moved towards "mobilization and consolidation." What other options could there be? hi


          For each your not clever comment, I will insert my answer.
          Taken from another branch, in response to this same individual.

          Listen, well, you have already overcome with your sermons. Well preach in the churches. Or you and the churches are not enough that you climb here like a frenzy with your Orthodoxy.
          It would be better to recall how many of your Orthodox priests greeted the Wehrmacht troops with a bang.
          You climb like a rabid school, to teach the "word of God", but what does it give, what does it teach? At school, such boys and girls need to teach HISTORY. And not so teach as they teach it now, but it is necessary to show them films without fail. Let them watch “Ordinary Fascism”, “Go and See”, the dokserial “The Great War”, the Soviet films “They Fought for the Motherland”, “The Dawns Here Are Quiet”, “The Fate of a Man”, “Liberation”, and not miscarriages of modern cinema but -for "Stalingrad" (or rather, "They fought for Katya)," Citadel "," Shtrafbat "and other" Bastards ".
          dsk "Mobilization and consolidation". What other options? hi

          Around what? What kind of ideas are you going to consolidate around? Around your Orthodoxy, which is the pillar of the current rotten oligarchic system? What kind of ideas are you going to unite us all around?
          If we want to keep Russia from collapse, then we need to return the ideology, to rebuild the education of children as soon as possible. All this fuss around the “Yunarmiya” is certainly good, but this is not enough. This is a minuscule of the necessary. This one, with permission to say “boy,” Kolya will soon enter adulthood, what do you think he will bring up? Another child?
          So for God's sake, go preach to read in church, give people a break from you.
          1. Skeptic
            Skeptic 21 November 2017 10: 08
            +8
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            If we want to keep Russia from collapse, then we need to return the ideology, to rebuild the education of children as soon as possible. All this fuss around the “Yunarmiya” is certainly good, but this is not enough. This is a minuscule of the necessary. This one, with permission to say “boy,” Kolya will soon enter adulthood, what do you think he will bring up? Another child?

            Ideology? Sorry, but you are stupid. You see, the overwhelming majority of young people reject any pathos of state events, the Victory Day is just one of these. And about ideology, then from the foregoing it will be the number one goal for ridicule, no one will take it seriously. Wherever possible, she will be perverted.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 21 November 2017 12: 35
              15
              Quote: SkepticCynic
              the overwhelming majority of young people reject any pathos of state events; victory day is just one of them.

              Yes? Is it you on behalf of what youth is broadcasting here? On behalf of all sorts of mar baghdasaryans and the like? Or from youth that bulk and K were stupid to insanity?
              Quote: SkepticCynic
              And about ideology, then from the foregoing it will be the number one goal for ridicule, no one will take it seriously. Wherever possible, she will be perverted.

              Well, your ideology, buy-sell-betray, as you can see from your commentary, it’s surely it will be damned and forgotten if the whole society and the country are going to live.
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2017 13: 12
            +5
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            It would be better to recall how many of your Orthodox priests greeted the Wehrmacht troops with a bang

            and how many were underground?
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            You climb like a rabid school, to teach the "word of God", but what does it give, what does it teach?
            you would first understand how the subject "the word of God" differs from the "foundations of religious cultures"
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            So for God's sake, go preach to read in church, give people a break from you

            well, so find a replacement for Orthodoxy, the Communists have found, but you have not yet
        2. Rey_ka
          Rey_ka 21 November 2017 09: 42
          +5
          Each generation is tested for "lice" and the ability to sacrifice. Apparently these will not work
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 21 November 2017 10: 01
            21
            I will disappoint you, they are just the product of "the most democratic propaganda." If you think that it is foreign, then you are mistaken, propaganda is conducted with the money of our state. And besides .... if (God forbid) war comes to us, I personally think hard, go to fight for billions and a happy face of "Chubaisoids" or dump it in the taiga. Under the USSR, I wouldn’t have even a shadow of doubt; I must fight for my homeland.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 21 November 2017 10: 37
              17
              AKuzenka Today, 10:01 ↑
              And besides .... if (God forbid) war comes to us, I personally think hard, go to fight for billions and a happy face of "Chubaisoids" or dump it in the taiga.
              Are you going to fight for billions or for your family, for your land, for the graves of your ancestors? Or do you think that those who come to fight will come for the billions of Chubais and Co.?
              Do not carry nonsense. In the USSR, it must be admitted that not everyone was satisfied with the power of the Bolsheviks, but they went to war. True, there were enough traitors, but this is precisely because someone went to fight for their homeland, and someone did not want to fight for Stalin, the Soviet government, oligarchs, Putin, etc. That is, in fact, it’s just a rotten excuse and you don’t give a damn about this very Motherland!
              1. discript
                discript 22 November 2017 10: 24
                +3
                Let's build a series ...- Stalin = Homeland?, Brezhnev = Homeland ?, Putin = Homeland, or can Prigozhin = Homeland ?, but, yes, Rotenberg = Homeland !, or Sechin = Homeland !, oh, forgot, raldugin = Homeland! ... So who has something wrong with their brains?
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 22 November 2017 10: 44
                  +4
                  Quote: discript
                  So who has something wrong with their brains?

                  You.
                  Tell why? One phrase is a man who did not defend the Motherland, in the event of an invasion of foreigners, after being forced to lick the occupier’s boots and serve the invaders .. Do you call for this?
                  Does the sad experience of collaborators of all kinds tell you anything?
                  1. discript
                    discript 22 November 2017 10: 55
                    0
                    It is imperative to draw conclusions from the past, otherwise there will be no worthy future. It's all. You don’t need to live in the past, because there will also be no future. And please recall the name of the person licking the boots of the occupier? And where does he live?
                    1. Varyag_0711
                      Varyag_0711 22 November 2017 11: 01
                      12
                      discript Today, 10:55 ↑ New
                      It is imperative to draw conclusions from the past, otherwise there will be no worthy future. It's all. You don’t need to live in the past, because there will also be no future. And please recall the name of the person licking the boots of the occupier? And where does he live?
                      I can say that the name of the person who is ready to lick the boots of the occupier is Vasily, unless of course you indicate your real name, and you know better where you live!
                      1. discript
                        discript 22 November 2017 11: 16
                        0
                        Yes, that's my name. But concepts: - licking the boot of the occupier, unproven mention of collaborators of "all stripes", these are cliches of a propagandist agitator, do not use them.
                      2. Varyag_0711
                        Varyag_0711 22 November 2017 11: 23
                        11
                        discript Today, 11:16 ↑
                        But concepts: - licking the boot of the occupier, unproven mention of collaborators of "all stripes", these are cliches of a propagandist agitator, do not use them.
                        Oh, what is it? Unproven mention of collaborators ... That is, in your opinion, we had neither Vlasov, nor Krasnov, nor Shkuro, nor others who were ready to lick boots? And not just lick, but go kill your own people together with the invaders.
                        I’m even guessing about your answer, “no need to look back and remember the past”, right, no?
                        If so, then you are rot, not a man!
                      3. badens1111
                        badens1111 22 November 2017 12: 30
                        +7
                        Quote: Varyag_0711
                        I can say that the name of the person who is ready to lick the boots of the occupier is Vasily, unless of course you indicate your real name, and you know better where you live!

                        A colleague ... this character ... it seems that they washed everything so that he really believes that all sorts of collaborators, all foreign invaders are worthy of something, except for one, destruction and oblivion ..
                        You see, he accuses me of propaganda, to hell with him, K. Simonov will answer for me and while I live, I will think just like that and no matter what name the enemy who encroaches on my Homeland is called. Giler, trump or some kind of kachinsky with Poroshenko, no matter the graves they have with us, we dig up .. they will get drunk on the ground, I really can’t ..
                        If your home is dear to you,

                        Where have you been nourished by the Russians,

                        Under a log ceiling,

                        Where are you, swinging in the cradle, sailing;



                        If the roads in the house are volumes

                        You have walls, stoves and corners,

                        Grandfather, great-grandfather and father

                        It has well-groomed floors;



                        If you love the poor garden

                        With the May color, with buzzing bees

                        And under the lime tree a hundred years ago

                        In the ground buried by my grandfather's table;



                        If you do not want sex

                        In your house, the fascist trampled,

                        So he sat down at the grandfather's table

                        And the trees in the garden broke ...



                        If mother is dear to you -

                        You are breastfeeding,

                        Where for a long time already there is no milk,

                        Just stick your cheek;



                        If you endure no strength,

                        So that the fascist, standing to her,

                        On the cheeks wrinkled beat,

                        Scythe wound on the arm;



                        To the same hands her,

                        What carried you into the cradle,

                        Washed his clothes

                        And put him to bed ...



                        If you did not forget your father,

                        What shook you in your arms,

                        What a good soldier was

                        And disappeared in the Carpathian snows,



                        What died over the Volga, beyond the Don,

                        For the motherland of your destiny;

                        If you do not want him

                        Turned in a coffin,



                        So that a soldier's portrait in crosses

                        The fascist took it and tore it to the floor.

                        And my mother's eyes

                        On his face he was advancing ...



                        If you do not want to give

                        The one with whom he walked together,

                        The one that long to kiss

                        You did not dare - so loved her -



                        So that the Nazis will be alive

                        They took it by force, holding it in a corner,

                        And the three of them crucified her,

                        Naked, on the floor;



                        To get three of these dogs

                        In groans, in hatred, in blood

                        All that holy shroud you yourself

                        With all the power of male love ...



                        If you are a fascist with a gun

                        You do not want to give up forever

                        The house where you lived, your wife and mother,

                        All that we call home, -



                        Know: no one will save her,

                        If you do not save her;

                        Know: no one will kill him,

                        If you do not kill him.



                        And while he did not kill him,

                        You keep silent about your love,

                        The land where you grew up, and the house where you lived,

                        Do not call your homeland.



                        Let your brother kill the fascist,

                        Let the neighbor kill the fascist, -

                        It's your brother and neighbor who take revenge,

                        And you do not have excuses.



                        Behind someone else's back they do not sit,

                        They do not take revenge on someone else's rifle.

                        Since your brother killed the fascist, -

                        It's him, not you soldier.



                        So kill the fascist, so that he,

                        And you did not lie on the ground,

                        Not in your house to moan,

                        And he stood by him in the dead.



                        So he wanted, his guilt, -

                        Let his house burn, and not yours,

                        And let not your wife,

                        And let him be a widow.



                        Let her cry out not yours,

                        And his born mother,

                        Not yours, but his family

                        Ponaprasnu let him wait.



                        So kill at least one!

                        So kill him quickly!

                        How many times will you see him,

                        So many times and kill him!
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 22 November 2017 10: 31
                +1
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Are you going to fight for billions or for your family, for your land, for the graves of your ancestors? Or do you think that those who come to fight will come for the billions of Chubais and Co.?

                A lot of pathos!
                I, too, are not going to tear the vest for these.
                I’ll try to explain to you ... Do you know anything about the causes of the death of the 6th company of the 104th Guards. pdp? That is, about the true reasons? And why no one came to the aid of the company?
                Rummage, look at the materials ...
                And also in you a curious reference: Officers are no longer joking. Open letter to gr. To Putin.
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 22 November 2017 10: 51
                  +4
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  And also in you a curious reference: Officers are no longer joking. Open letter to gr. To Putin.

                  There is no link .. well, okay, the question is completely about the topic, that there was enough irreplaceable betrayal in that war, it’s no secret to anyone. And the strings went to Moscow. hung on a lace.
                  Further ... the company died, yes, but the gang was destroyed, you know the war, if this company thought that it was not worth fighting, because they supposedly were not serving the Motherland but Putin or anyone else, then all of her she died simply mediocre and in vain, being banally cut out, like herds of rams with far-reaching consequences. It’s enough to indicate one case, or rather two, platoon in 693 MSP, handed over a platoon to 1 company ... so that the surviving soldiers are scattered, and this who didn’t want to fulfill his duty as an old man, lives happily ever after, he was not even judged. Secondly, the delivery of the checkpoint, exactly from the same motives, they say, for whom we are fighting, everyone is cut out, you will find a video of their execution on the Internet ..
                  So do not confuse the regime as such and the duty to protect the country from external and internal enemies.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 22 November 2017 11: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: badens1111
                    the fact that in that war of irreplaceable betrayal was enough is not a secret to anyone

                    Comrade, there were two wars, in this case we are talking about the second. It is not even worth spreading here for what and how it was unleashed.
                    After the events of 1999, many officers filed reports.
                    A link is not going. Just type in the text “Letter .......”, and the letter was written by Colonel of the Armed Forces of the Reserve Mikhail Anatolyevich Shendakov, who is now sitting at .. there is a YouTube and Andrey laid out, Yurich, who ...
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 22 November 2017 12: 32
                      0
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      After the events of 1999, many officers filed reports.

                      More precisely ... after the first company ... even more precisely, after Lebed’s shameful signature under the Khasavyurt act of surrender .. when this ghoul, given by Berezovsky, simply forgot about 1200 prisoners in the hands of bandits .. soldiers and civilian officers ..
            2. EwgenyZ
              EwgenyZ 21 November 2017 19: 35
              +4
              Quote: AKuzenka
              And besides .... if (God forbid) war comes to us, I personally think hard, go to fight for billions and a happy face of "Chubaisoids" or dump it in the taiga.

              Well, Vlasov also probably also spoke, only the characters were different, not “Chubaisoids,” but “liquid Bolsheviks,” etc. Under the USSR, you would have been sentenced by Article 70 of the Criminal Code for such thoughts, and this is why:
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Under the USSR, I wouldn’t have even a shadow of doubt; I must fight for my homeland.

              Now you can, there is no article for anti-state activities.
              1. turbris
                turbris 21 November 2017 20: 56
                +1
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Do not carry nonsense. In the USSR, it must be admitted that not everyone was satisfied with the power of the Bolsheviks, but they went to war. True, there were enough traitors, but this is precisely because someone went to fight for their homeland, and someone did not want to fight for Stalin, the Soviet government, oligarchs, Putin, etc. That is, in fact, it’s just a rotten excuse and you don’t give a damn about this very Motherland!

                Exactly, and now he’ll agree that he doesn’t need his homeland either, because he was offended by Chubais.
            3. Lock36
              Lock36 21 November 2017 21: 05
              +1
              And besides .... if (God forbid) war comes to us, I personally think hard, go to fight for billions and a happy face of "Chubaisoids" or dump it in the taiga.

              Speak correctly, do not be silent about this. All this will help us to compile lists of internees in an endangered period. Stay with us!
            4. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 22 November 2017 12: 10
              +6
              Probably you have your own homeland different from mine! I, I may not respect the authorities, not love individual politicians, but I have one homeland. And in the taiga from the "partners" I will not run. He served in the Soviet Army. I remember and know how to fight. I hope I will not be alone .......
      2. Basil50
        Basil50 21 November 2017 07: 31
        17
        The given examples are not single. Irresponsibility and impunity will not lead to this. Teachers of this undergrowth do not bear any responsibility. They in extreme cases will be transferred to another school and that's it. In RUSSIA, even for public Nazi calls on TV, no one answered. True, some muzzles were smashed, but this is a private initiative of citizens.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 21 November 2017 20: 13
          +3
          Quote: Vasily50
          True, some muzzles were smashed, but this is a private initiative of citizens.

          Well, this is what we must begin with, I mean a private initiative. It is not worth hoping for a state, especially a modern one. So there was a fuss about this youngster, well, we are indignant, well, we will write fiery comments, and there will be “things there”. Many of the members of the forum tell their children about our past, and before 1991 and until 1917? Many children know their ancestors, and who and how was useful to their homeland? Che outrage, you have to start with your children! Each has its own road, and Vlasov and Karbyshev, and the "boy from Urengoy."
        2. Young_Communist
          Young_Communist 22 November 2017 03: 38
          +7
          Quote: Vasily50
          The given examples are not single. Irresponsibility and impunity will not lead to this. Teachers of this undergrowth do not bear any responsibility. They in extreme cases will be transferred to another school and that's it. In RUSSIA, even for public Nazi calls on TV, no one answered. True, some muzzles were smashed, but this is a private initiative of citizens.

          Peskov also said that they are normal. And his current wife, an American citizen of Navka, will not teach him bad things in a box:

          To whom there are few concentration camps, one can do this:
          1. ohtandur
            ohtandur 22 November 2017 09: 40
            +1
            did not see these clips. But this is horror. although aware of the trend of the past 25 years
      3. badens1111
        badens1111 21 November 2017 12: 32
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        is it stupidity, or intent? and there are enough such "posters".

        This and everything taken together, plus a crime. And until they begin to punish for this, for about 10 years, everything will continue like that .. "they’re on the go" ..
      4. Zibelew
        Zibelew 21 November 2017 13: 48
        +5
        Emblem of special communications of Russia. The imperial eagle of the 3rd Reich holds the Russian flag in its claws.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 22 November 2017 10: 15
          +1
          Perhaps this is still a carrier pigeon, a symbol of communication.
      5. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 November 2017 11: 26
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        . What is happening a quarter of a century in our education .. this is a log ... finally did not even see.

        Greetings Colleague! hi
        It is not even a matter of education, although education is an important component, which will ruin our future.
        I have several times laid out how the budgeting program is promoting the contemporary art phashington program.
        The exhibitions are held in the Hermitage, followed by movement throughout the country as part of the same program.
        Just a wave of indignation is not heard ...
    2. Pravodel
      Pravodel 21 November 2017 08: 34
      25
      What happened in the German Bundestag, when our children began to defend the Nazis, is a natural result of the 90s, when on television, radio in the media instead of highly artistic works that make you think, a low-grade multi-series trash multiplied, when cheap cheap have fun, western talk shows, discussing the problem of getting urine and feces in need, and finally, when the Soviet system of school education and teaching of history was replaced by the Western Bologna system, focused not on creating a base, knowledge on subjects, but on guessing tests, filling out a guessing game that serves a pass to further education, "into the adult world" ... In these conditions, the feat of the people, the atrocities of the invaders, fascists, Nazis - nothing, a fleeting cross, a check mark in a crossword puzzle called the exam. Add here a lot of history textbooks written either by outspoken traitors of the Russian people, for example, those that regularly appear in talk shows on Channel 1 TV and Rossiya, or in the bowels of special forces of Western intelligence, and published in Russia with the money of the favorite of the liberals Soros, and it immediately becomes clear that the fruits of such public enlightenment, enshrined in the newest system of teaching history, again, restructured on the model of Soros, are already ripening at universities, institutes, and pedagogical schools. Soon they will have to reap. What happened in Germany is flowers, compared to what can happen if the system of public education and enlightenment does not return to the channel of patriotism, love of the motherland, if the infection of liberalism is not destroyed in education and in after-school education brought to us during the dashing 90s, if Russia does not return to the creation of knowledge that forms the patriots of Russia, instead of putting down crosses and zeros in guessing tables. You don’t have to go far in history. To transfer the Orthodox population of southwestern Russia, Galicia to Catholicism, Jesuits opened free schools where children were accepted, regardless of material wealth. How it ended, it’s known ... Galicia fell away from Orthodoxy and converted to Uniate, whose poisonous metastases are now reaping in Ukraine. These are the fruits of enlightenment.
      A separate question for the state and semi-state media ... Here, cleaning the repertoire and studio grid is the most important state task. State, semi-state, state-owned media cannot and should not be anti-state. In such media, it is necessary to return to the system of artistic councils that existed in the USSR - artistic councils that performed the function of filtering, protecting our media space from outright vulgarity, bad taste and anti-state propaganda. Moreover, this measure could be extended to theaters, museums, etc., receiving state support. In this case, on the air, the stage would be blocked by vulgarity and vileness, which is now pouring from the screen, the air is full of trough, questions about the need to surrender Leningrad to the Germans, the recognition of Vlasov as victims of the Stalin regime, etc. could have appeared. , etc., etc ... All this would not be possible. The state, people, society must protect themselves not only by law, but also by a special filter, which does not allow the spread of meanness, vulgarity, and ugliness through the media and cultural sphere to the people. The task of the state is not only to defend the country from external enemies during their attack on the Fatherland, but also to save its people from the influence of lack of spirituality, from the chaff, from the rust of Western mass culture that corrodes the people from the inside. The first assistant to the state on this difficult path is the Russian Orthodox Church, traditional Russian denominations. Hence, the enduring importance of the lessons of Orthodox culture, which reveals to the children the beauty of the Russian people, their sacrifice, the power that allowed all the nations included in the Russian state to live and develop in accordance with their own centuries-old traditions, beliefs and principles.

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong state, a close-knit people, prospering for centuries, the Fatherland, which cannot be broken, cannot be defeated by internal and external enemies.
      1. gm9019
        gm9019 21 November 2017 09: 17
        +5
        Dear Truth Maker! Could put you ten pluses, would put! good
      2. raw174
        raw174 21 November 2017 10: 45
        10
        Comrade Pravdodel, in general, I agree with you, but
        Quote: The Truth
        A separate question for the state and semi-state media ... Here, cleaning the repertoire and studio grid is the most important state task.

        What do you propose to watch on TV at the most watchful time? Soviet films and historical programs? How many people will watch it? Composition only
        Quote: The Truth
        art councils

        Not TV dictates fashion, but the demands of society! People want to watch Malakhov, they want to see how things are going with the next jester and how Pugachev is doing, that's what they twist. There is no request for propaganda and patriotism in society, they (the central TV) will not have ratings, and, accordingly, no advertising, no money ...
        Quote: The Truth
        it is necessary to return to the system of artistic councils that existed in the USSR - artistic councils that performed the filtering function

        So this is Caesura and dictatorship! And where is freedom? This gin was released in the 90s, now you can not push it back.
        Quote: The Truth
        protect our media space from outright vulgarity, bad taste and anti-state propaganda.

        Again, the matter is in the requests of society! People got hooked on vulgarity, it will not be on TV, they will go online, because there are only more vulgarities, a vicious circle ...
        Quote: The Truth
        All this would not be possible.

        Now there is no impossible. How many TV channels do you have? I have 10 (free number), parents, like most, have about three hundred! How many of them can the state influence? Again, what about the Internet? People go from TV to the network.
        Quote: The Truth
        The first assistant to the state on this difficult path is the Russian Orthodox Church, traditional Russian denominations.

        So at the beginning of the post they would have written it, then we could have not read it ...
        I always write in such cases one thing:
        ANY RELIGION - there is a mass control mechanism and the most effective means of earning! Only these goals are pursued by the preachers and the point!
        If you seriously think that religion is able to unite Russia, you are VERY mistaken! On religious grounds, there can only be contention!
      3. Archon
        Archon 21 November 2017 13: 27
        +4
        In your opinion, is it possible to nominate one from VO at least as a deputy?
        1. raw174
          raw174 21 November 2017 14: 10
          +3
          Quote: Archon
          In your opinion, is it possible to nominate one from VO at least as a deputy?

          First you need to decide on the territory, so that the VO region was, or the region))) Well, you can create a party)))
      4. PPD
        PPD 21 November 2017 13: 44
        +2
        Quote: gm9019
        Dear Truth Maker! Could put you ten pluses, would put! good
        I would have 10 cons.
        Question 3-grader. What are you going through the story?
        The answer is, we don’t have it yet. and It’s not recently appeared. In the 80s it was the same.
        What do you pass-answers: Rome, Greece, Europe. etc.
        Do we live in Greece? Why study it so much. What is not your story? The names of academicians Rybakov and Ioannina, even 11 of them do not know their grades. Now the word of God has also appeared, but there is no history. This is a real example, that of history. But she is not. Well, what kind of objects do you have, the word of God ..... well, mathematics, Russian, have not been canceled yet. Moreover, the parents are not completely Orthodox (these are Sunday schools), they offered them a choice and chose the least meaningless . In some places they entered in general by order.
        About the artistic councils, did you go through them yourself? Themselves, personally. The city councils are basically a system of settling accounts. The fact that this did not appear in the USSR is not the merit of the city councils. Movie Viking-will remember? Who praised him well, etc. With a modern system, this film, any would have passed. Who filmed remember? In essence, ideological sabotage.
        Natsik in the late 80s began to appear. Woke up! 27 years have passed since then.
        And if you dig deeper and ask an uncomfortable question, who introduced the USE with donkey stubbornness?
        "Stoked" for him from left to right. There is no Minister of Education, although this one is also involved.
        There are higher. And you know him for a long time. I well remember how one of my students in a secondary school tested the history of the ege, so that this rubbish was immediately clear. What was there not only.
        In the textbooks and so much is incorrect. So there the answers to the questions were incorrect.
        A funny system-students found that if you don’t know, you can choose point b and hand over.
        That's why such an education ??? To all who participated immediately it was clear nonsense.
        The result of the experiment was recognized as successful and the system was introduced. For a long time, by the way, it was not tested. It was visible, they’ll introduce it anyway. The test was performed to check and refine the system.
        PC A few years ago there was news - a monument to the US president was erected in Crimea.
        I swear, Obama thought. If it weren’t for him, he wouldn’t have come to develop his head.
        Immediately began import substitution.
        1. ohtandur
          ohtandur 21 November 2017 16: 19
          +2
          I agree with you. It’s a long-standing problem, and right now they look at it as if it’s a wonder that they condemn the boy — are those who condemn the boy really naive or are completely obsessed with observation?

          Here's what they said above:
          The Kremlin considers it wrong to blame a schoolboy from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous District who spoke in the Bundestag for propaganda of Nazism, said spokesman for Russian President Dmitry Peskov.
          https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/451462-kreml-t
          ravlya-malchik-bundestag

          The main thing for the authorities is:
          The head of Rostrud advised the Russians to work harder
          https://republic.ru/posts/87851

          that is, you are not doing that, citizens, that you are "discussing any history"? Work .. on the street capitalism, his mother. And he with a conscientious past is not on the way. He has his own vision of the world. And the power in the country belongs to the capitalists, that’s the news. So they will dictate the story. What about the kid? He grew up in all of this. He is a product that Vlas wanted to grow and she does not see anything terrible in the student’s performance. Everything is fine from their point of view. This lower classes are outraged. Yes and only.
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    3. michey
      michey 21 November 2017 09: 28
      +3
      Intent. there is no stupidity - disparate facts perfectly fit into a common mosaic.
    4. urman
      urman 21 November 2017 10: 03
      +9
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      is it stupidity, or intent?

      This is a villainy disguised as a mistake made in a hurry.
      Modern half-educated people made a poster, and those who claimed this poster received their own education and they could not help but see this.
      A simple example, 2015, on the wife’s store, on May 9, we placed a portrait of our relative who died at 45, with the inscription Remember-Proud.
      Someone from the administration with the smell of fumes stated and began in raised tones that they needed a supposedly approved poster, etc.
      My wife’s tears already started to roll, my daughter and grandson are at a loss,
      they made this poster with their grandson for two days.
      I had to take this, the bureaucrat aside and promise to pull out his Bandera pens if he touches our poster.
      What started here.
      To the honor of the police standing nearby, they took him aside and quietly right-handed him, for which they would be grateful, otherwise I would have to mutilate him.
      1. your1970
        your1970 22 November 2017 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: urman
        A simple example, 2015, on the wife’s store, on May 9, we placed a portrait of our relative who died at 45, with the inscription Remember-Proud.
        Someone from the administration with the smell of fumes stated and began in raised tones that they needed a supposedly approved poster, etc.
        - and here answer to you (with a bunch of laudatory !!!) above:
        "In such media need to return to the system of art councils that existed in the USSR - artistic councils that performed the function of filtering, protection our media space from outright vulgarity, bad taste and anti-state propaganda. "-and you would have removed a nice poster not approved by the artistic council in the case of such statesmen fool
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 21 November 2017 10: 19
      13
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      - is it stupidity, or intent?

      This is a loss of memory by the people .....
      "Today, children, tomorrow - people". N. Mikhalkov
      Despite the parades of the “Immortal Regiments” held in the country, there are many people (I can’t call them people for certain reasons), for which such events are similar to flash mobs or pre-election municipal rallies. It does not reach their chicken liberal brains that this was the tragedy of all the peoples inhabiting the USSR.
      It seems that it is time to introduce a law on criminal liability for denying the criminal essence of the meaning of the Nazi Germany attack on the USSR.
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 21 November 2017 11: 06
      +4
      Version
      Here is a Urengoy boy for you.
      1. The trip was organized with the active assistance of the Gazprom company, its German partner Wintershalle and the German People’s Union for the care of military burial sites.

      Ms. Merkel has another problem. Almost two months after the unsuccessful parliamentary elections for her. Her attempts to assemble a ruling coalition of three German parties failed.

      Yesterday morning, the Greens “declared its impossibility. Now Merkel is consulting with President Steinmeier on the topic not so much of the re-election as their (rather complicated) mechanism. But the leader of free democrats was the first to leave the coalition talks (the main question is migrants) Christian Lindner.
      Another reason for the failure was the rise in popularity of the far-right nationalist Alternative for Germany (AdG) nationalist party, which first entered the Bundestag.
      The party’s popularity has grown dramatically since Merkel’s decision to allow over a million refugees into the country.

      The fact that there will be re-elections is a high probability. AdG leader Alexander Gauland has already begun to actively call for them.
      German Chancellor Angela Merkel herself stated that she would rather agree to hold new general elections than to create a weak ruling coalition.
      Elections may be January-February 2018.
      The chance to get more from the FDP and the "Alternative". The Social Democrats will try to win back the lost seats of the CDU. Likely to lose
      So what about, we are waiting for new re-elections and new people in power in Germany ...
      2. But for the Russian Federation. it is time to do a general cleaning in the field of enlightenment and upbringing of the young generation .. in ideology. members of the Constitution. written in the time of Yeltsin and with the help of his friends from abroad
      And put in place those who are trying to rewrite the history of World War II
      Here .and an occasion for great things!
      Conditions for the Russian Federation became different. She declared war on all areas. But. And Russia is different ....
      But a bad guy ??. You lag behind the victim of the game of adults. It is a product of the system and its lifestyle and .. education ...
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 21 November 2017 12: 25
        +4
        Quote: To be or not to be
        You lag behind the victim of the game of adults. It is a product of the system and its lifestyle and .. education ...

        Such "products", well organized and equipped, are a wonderful tool for color revolutions. Accumulate a little more - it will grow louder!
        1. Skeptic
          Skeptic 21 November 2017 12: 36
          +1
          Quote: Hlavaty
          Such "products", well organized and equipped, are a wonderful tool for color revolutions. Accumulate a little more - it will grow louder!

          If it rumbles, it means so. There is no smoke without fire, it is a lie that from scratch you can create a problem, nothing happens in history by chance.
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 21 November 2017 13: 23
            +3
            Quote: SkepticCynic
            If it rumbles, it means so.

            Oh, do not call ... Ukraine is near - come see. And remember the history of revolutions and civil wars. Unpleasant things.
            Quote: SkepticCynic
            There is no smoke without fire, it is a lie that from scratch you can create a problem, nothing happens in history by chance.

            There is no "empty space". In any society there are dissatisfied. "Someone has liquid soup, someone has small pearls."
            Question: should society allow external forces to freely use the discontented for antisocial purposes? Or should one still give a hand?
      2. your1970
        your1970 22 November 2017 11: 38
        0
        Quote: To be or not to be
        . in ideology.

        what do you propose? here even in VO because of any fight there will be, but in life, in reality there will be a civil war
    7. nickname7
      nickname7 22 November 2017 09: 25
      +1
      And why completely banned the book of mine kampf? On the one hand, there should not be extremism propaganda, on the other hand, how to find out that it is bad if there is no information. The solution is that you need to allow the publication of certain excerpts from the Kampf lanes regarding the ideas of Hitlerism about the Slavs. The Nazis followed the slaves and the lands. The Slavs are recognized as the lowest race - the Untermenschs, the destiny of the Slavs and other peoples of the union to be slaves. This must be brought to schoolchildren, then there will be no excesses.

      And Kolya, in the Bundestag, is delighted with his potential slave owners, because he does not know that these are slave owners, since information is prohibited.
      1. your1970
        your1970 22 November 2017 11: 40
        0
        Quote: nickname7
        why completely banned the book of mine kampf? On the one hand, there should not be extremism propaganda, on the other hand, how to find out that it is bad if there is no information. The solution is that you need to allow the publication of certain excerpts from the Kampf lanes regarding the ideas of Hitlerism about the Slavs.
        "Do you want me to snatch quotes from Lenin that he treats prostitutes well? Do you want Stalin to be friends with America? It's easy, absolutely easy to cut quotes from any politician and ascribe anything to him ....
  2. kenig1
    kenig1 21 November 2017 06: 55
    +4
    The article is a plus, unlike the article "how fun knee ryat."
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 21 November 2017 07: 22
      17
      We ourselves choose the leader of the country, who now blame? How many years has the public opposed the Bologna education system and no use. The authorities are deaf to the people. hi
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 21 November 2017 10: 05
        12
        In 2014, 95-year-old Daniil Granin spoke here in the Bundestag. January 27 as a national day in memory of the victims of National Socialism.
        This day was chosen because it was on January 27, 1945, that the Soviet army liberated the Nazi death camp Auschwitz. But on the same day - only a year earlier - the blockade of Leningrad was lifted.
        He stood up for almost an hour.
        His speech was merciless. He did not say how some expected in the Bundestag, about the historical reconciliation of Germans and Russians, about the lessons of the past and overcoming the totalitarian legacy in Germany or in Russia.
        He emphasized that he was speaking in Berlin not as a writer, but as an ordinary soldier, a participant in those events, their direct witness. The writer and spoke like a soldier, standing, although an elderly man was offered a chair. He spoke quietly, in absolute silence. His speech was kept at the limit of emotions, but at the same time restrained. Only truth and pain.

        Daniil Granin's performance was broadcast live by several German channels. The writer's thoughts about the blockade, stories from the history of the blockade amazed those present. Many of them, of course, knew about the very fact of the blockade, but did not know the details, that incredible, inhuman pain that Leningraders had to endure. Some of the listeners were not shy about tears. "
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 November 2017 08: 02
    +8
    “While some teachers were forced to wallow in papers, others take the opportunity to play on the market and put a plus in the“ international events ”section - after all, it's creative, innovation, tutoring. Again, officials will report that innovation, including“ educational Internet resources support. You look - more and additional financing will be knocked out. Of course, it is “rational” to optimize schools in the village, and to give schools-"innovative clusters" a ticket to life. Patriotic portals are “advisable” to be squeezed, and govnosites from the category of liberal faknews with eternal nagging in the style of “rushka everything” will certainly be supported so that the progressive West does not suddenly get angry. "
    - unfortunately, this is not an exaggeration of the author, everything is so. I will add that the "patriotic direction" in the educational plans of officials from "educating" is extremely formalized: "conduct a search work", write an essay: "How I Love the Constitution", sing a song, etc. ... This has more likely the opposite effect .. .. But to finance trips of children to memorable places, memorial complexes, to make "Zarnitsa" a regular lesson - that’s nothing, it requires money and common sense.
    1. dSK
      dSK 21 November 2017 09: 32
      +7
      Hello Konstantin Viktorovich!
      Quote: samarin1969
      make Zarnitsa a regular activity

      The lightning, orienteering, “Voroshilovsky shooter” is less necessary than the top players and “super stadiums”. And if the forty-first year? hi
      1. Cat Marquis
        Cat Marquis 21 November 2017 09: 54
        +7
        Not a ride .... Now is not the USSR and not the era of "typewriters." What worked ideologically then will not work now. Now, none of the youth read books either, for their perception a page of printed text is already something beyond the grasp of understanding ... Now everything is on a “figurative perception”. That's where you need to work. But figurative perception is not so much “graphic information” on the Internet, in games, manga, etc. it is, first of all, the surrounding reality, that surrounds a person — if everything is normal there, then the person will be a “patriot” of such an “environment” ", of such a" way of life "and, in the end, of such a" country "... But in Russia, everything in the surrounding reality is skewed, monstrous stratification and injustice everywhere .... here by any" patriotic sites "," zarnitsa *, "patriotic campaigns "and so on.
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 21 November 2017 11: 45
          +3
          MAOU “Secondary school No. 30 NAMED AFTER THE 10TH GUARDIAN UTTK”
          623270, Sverdlovsk region, the city of Degtyarsk, st. Ural Tankers, 12
          March 11, 2014 after reconstruction, the school opened a unique Museum of Military Glory dedicated to the 10th Guards Ural Volunteer Tank Corps.
          Earlier, the UTTK museum was inaugurated in school No. 30 of Degtyarsk in November 1967. His first leader was a history teacher Ekaterina Vasilievna Zamotaeva. In the same year, at the request of the school, the street on which the school stands was renamed from High Voltage to Ural Tankers!
          That is, it all depends on those people who are engaged in the upbringing of their future and the purpose of this upbringing, that is, WHO they want to receive as a result.
          By the way, in the war and after the war, before the Germans were sent to Germany, a German prisoner of war camp stood at this place. mostly diabetes
  4. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 21 November 2017 08: 08
    +3
    It's time to start listening to people who repent before Russia for the crimes of Europe. At the same time, it will then be possible to shout about violation of laws and such fashionable human rights. After all, Europeans are vindictive guys - they will squeeze so hard that they will run down your legs.
  5. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 21 November 2017 08: 09
    +9
    How about ... blinked the system of glorification of Nazism

    Elementary! The scum who seized power in the 90s does not give a damn about everything that does not concern the dough. Here is the result. Still dare to be surprised and indignant! You yourself rubbed it for almost 30 years!
    And the Power’s lack of ideology is generally bad manners, however, our greedy power doesn’t care!
    1. your1970
      your1970 21 November 2017 08: 37
      +3
      Quote: Antianglosaks
      Power lacks ideology
      - and what can be ideology from the state, if after 100 years (soon already) after death, here on IN almost a fight (and I won’t be surprised if I had a fight in reality) goes on the subject-to endure / not to endure Lenin ???? And so on all the key issues of the latter 10 centuries - the invasion of the Mongol-Tatars / Pugachev / PMV / Peter / WWII / February /
      October / Catherine / Cossacks, etc. etc...

  6. parusnik
    parusnik 21 November 2017 08: 11
    +8
    The question is, how did the boy Kolya get into the Bundestag ... from Urengoy ... This is what level of agreement you need to have .. And then these are the consequences of the so-called ideology ... The Reds killed the tsar, and then forced the people to fight Hitler .. On this not a single generation has already grown ... Nobody noticed that at the official state level, no one remembered the parade of Soviet troops on November 7, 1941 ... and it was remembered ... on every federal channel .. and here .. And how result .. boy Kolya in the Bundestag, oh forgive us Germans for Stalingrad ... you didn’t give up right away ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 21 November 2017 11: 29
      +7
      do not forget to apologize for Marinesco ....
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 22 November 2017 10: 21
        +1
        Guys, blame everything on me. Fuck with him, with Schengen, I will tolerate for all.
    2. Cadet
      Cadet 21 November 2017 15: 49
      +3
      Do you think they know who they are red or white, you obviously flatter them what parade 1941 if the war began in 1942, and Chapaev fought near Stalingrad, now in many textbooks there is no concept of the Second World War, but there is WWII and that’s all.
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    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 22 November 2017 00: 46
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      The question is, how did Kolya’s boy get into the Bundestag ... from Urengoy ... What is the level of agreements that must be had ... And then these are the consequences of the so-called ideology ... The Reds killed the Tsar, and then forced the people to fight Hitler .... .

      It's all at once ---- and arrangements, and a snapshot, and more ..... Sleepers woke up at the same time in different places
  7. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 21 November 2017 08: 21
    17
    And did you expect something "magical"? These are still flowers, hey, soon his pan is jumping. Who were our heroes - Karchagin and Kosmodemyanskaya, or at least the Maestro and Danila Bagrov. And now the “rudder of time" is not Larisa Latynina, not Svetlana Savitskaya - a wet cracker of Baghdasaryan and another shusher. The presidential aide, albeit a former one, shoots up in a hotel stoned, and nothing .. They crush a child and accuse him of drunkenness (!) !! Pupils do not just fight with classmates - they humiliate, rape, take off the phone, and after three days of bullying in a snowdrift they bury a living creature by pouring water (the latter was in Bratsk a few years ago) .. And this is not some kind of "dysfunctional" - because called "ordinary, affluent families." But the "justification of Nazism" - pff, how many skinheads were closed there, or other bandits of other nationalities? No, the police are working hard, only they are not able to prevent crimes, prevention is not their profile. It all starts with parents, and from school. And if a child sees how his mother crawls out of turn in the store, then he will behave like that in the future .. And the fact that “learned uncles” are being poured into teenagers with impunity from the screens cannot be described in obscene terms. In the school “Ordinary Fascism” it is necessary to show, and “The Grave of fireflies with Barefoot Gene” yes “And it will be gentle rain”, children should be taken to “Red Beach”, to Volgograd - let them see and know our truth, and this should be done at the state level. But to some of the very "elite" it is more important once again to "repent" .. Ah, good, everyone and everyone understands, only there is little to be done ..
    PS Article +. Thank. Good.
    1. Cadet
      Cadet 21 November 2017 18: 13
      +4
      And who will show them the film: Ordinary Fascism? A history teacher ? Which, in all seriousness, claims that the USSR is an evil empire, and the country produced tens of thousands of tanks, but the Germans, they are great, what beautiful cars they make. Keep in mind this teacher was educated in the USSR and graduated from the institute in the USSR, and she is already over 50 and what's next. And what parents can give in our time, most of them, nothing, because they shrug off children’s questions about the USSR, and the May 9 holiday turned into a regular holiday for them in the country under a barbecue and rallying from the employer to the rally. Further, if in the UCP classes in the Army we practically do not pay attention to the topic of the Second World War, we formally held classes, the sergeant read out the dates, wrote down everything, and it’s written that it’s necessary. If on the facade of the regional university on May 9 a poster hangs where a close-up photograph of an American tank, and what hangs. If the girls in the department who just graduated from the university with honors and don’t know the school who wrote Sherlock Holmes, if they don’t know who the author of Tom Sawyer is, Baba Yaga is a fantasy hero, the theme of the Second World War is not interesting, it is not clear, it sounds everywhere and at every step, it’s now fashionable to read psychology. When a colleague sitting in the dining room with such rapture told me that she had read such a new book that the woman wrote)))) Maria Remarque))) it says a lot, and who is Dumas there is dark. Sorry for the grammatical errors, emotions. One is happy, my sister is in the 2nd year, we recently talked about the history of Russia, she knows both civil and Great Patriotic War and even collectivization, and what is military communism, a person reads and looks at the Star.
  8. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 21 November 2017 08: 27
    +6
    I did not see anything surprising in this situation. Formal knowledge on the results of the exam at school. Students learn from textbooks written on grants from Soros. Media in general, the state does not control in any way, not to mention social networks and the Internet in general. For example, in China it’s completely different. All this leads to sad thoughts when you consider that no one has conquered Russia, the Russians themselves have ruined it.
  9. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 21 November 2017 08: 40
    +4

    Reminded of one song laughing
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 November 2017 08: 49
    10
    No one blinked. A system has been created that destroys everything Soviet, and yet it is the SOVIET people who defeated Nazism. Contempt for the country comes from the highest echelons of power. But we know no one is to blame. First, the boy will be scolded, and then sent to graduate in Germany.
    But the perestroika promised us that Nazism would not work in Russia. Deceived as always.
    1. Lars971a
      Lars971a 21 November 2017 18: 25
      +2
      The Soviet can be destroyed, just give power in return, that’s the question. Judging by the speech in the Bundestag, there is no replacement.
  11. avia12005
    avia12005 21 November 2017 08: 50
    +5
    Here's how not to think about the fact that if Stalin had not repressed a certain circle of personalities under Art. 58, then now they would lead both education and New Urengoy ...
  12. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 21 November 2017 08: 53
    +1
    And the Jewish Autonomous Region was not created by chance - all the Jews went there. EAO exists today.

    By this logic, we are fighting with all the Caucasians (there are Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia and even the RSFSR) (sarcasm if that ...)
  13. raw174
    raw174 21 November 2017 09: 01
    +5
    "In general, so far it is only pretending that the information space is safe for the modern student"
    What are the suggestions? Is it possible, like in S. Korea, to ban the Internet, or to tightly control and censor, as in China ... Will everyone be happy about this?
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to regulate content without resorting to harsh measures and without restricting freedom. Someone now can not see pornography? on each closed site three new ones will come out, is it difficult to find ladies of easy virtue? one page was closed, 8 appeared. This is hydra!
    Caring for the control of children is entirely the concern of the parents.
    1. michey
      michey 21 November 2017 09: 32
      +7
      Nothing like this. Society is the same as family. Plant open Natsik - for 15 years, the rest 10 times they will think before opening their mouths.
      1. raw174
        raw174 21 November 2017 09: 52
        +5
        Quote: michey
        Society is the same as family.

        Affects of course, but the influence of the family is a hundred times greater. I am talking about a full-fledged family, where both parents are engaged in a systematic upbringing, about the classic understanding of the family.
        Quote: michey
        Plant open Natsik - for 15 years, the rest 10 times they will think before opening their mouths.

        This is no longer a society, but the law enforcement activity of the state. The last ten years, or maybe more, have not seen skins from the 90s ... there are certainly focal manifestations, but this is not of that mass nature. And in your example, those 10 will not go underground? Underground workers, they are more dangerous than openly speaking! Open at least somehow you can control.
        In general, the very idea of ​​Nazism is alive and will live exactly as long as there are people on the planet.
        PS: a bit of humor: I hate two things - racism and blacks! If it were not for the blacks, then there would be no racism!
    2. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 21 November 2017 12: 35
      +4
      Quote: raw174
      IMPOSSIBLE to regulate content,

      Why regulate content? It is necessary to regulate the authors.
      Each content has a specific author (translator, copypaster, site owner), who can and should be taken for gills if he allowed himself inappropriate things in the content.
      Quote: raw174
      Caring for the control of children is entirely the concern of the parents.

      Well, not the whole thing. You already went too far. Society must also participate. And how to pay taxes is your public duty, and how to ask a society for a mess it seems like it has nothing to do with it. smile
      1. raw174
        raw174 21 November 2017 12: 50
        +3
        Quote: Hlavaty
        It is necessary to regulate the authors.

        Yes? And how do you propose to implement this? Here I am writing here, I am the author, how to control me? Create a site, now students are able not to track ... Well, or how to work in the 37th on denunciations)))
        Quote: Hlavaty
        Well, not the whole thing. You already went too far.

        Well, the first violin is family and parents. In the end, upbringing in 99% of cases determines the circle of communication ...
        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 21 November 2017 13: 13
          +2
          Quote: raw174
          Here I am writing here, I am the author, how to control me? Create a site, now students are able not to track ..

          Do not flatter yourself. That you, that the site of a schoolboy have long been able to calculate. Just who and what then should do with the "calculated"? Examples of suicide groups in social networks say that the state is not interested in this, while others do not have the authority to do anything.
          1. raw174
            raw174 21 November 2017 14: 16
            +3
            Quote: Hlavaty
            That you, that the site of the schoolboy have been able to calculate for a long time.

            I’m not hiding, but those who are hiding cannot be revealed ... they cannot find false subversives ...
            Quote: Hlavaty
            Examples of suicide groups in social networks say that the state is not interested

            Well, they catch it periodically, only bipods, and the glavnyuki are free, they cannot be technically calculated ...
            1. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 21 November 2017 17: 28
              0
              Quote: raw174
              that they can’t find false bombers ...

              Quote: raw174
              and glavnyuki are free, they cannot be technically calculated ...

              They can, they can. ... I repeat, technically this problem has long been solved. But why the government does not use these technical capabilities is already a political issue. There are so many things in power ... so many things ... Well, she is not up to you.
              1. raw174
                raw174 22 November 2017 06: 34
                +2
                Quote: Hlavaty
                They can, they can.

                Still, I think that no ... well, we do not have developed departments for cybercrime in the police and other organs of the State Security Bureau, only in subject units, and until they are in municipalities, there will be no work ...
                Quote: Hlavaty
                This is a political issue.

                Yes, what kind of policy ... A simple planned action, in order to intimidate and destabilize the masses. Proponents of conspiracy theories may say that the government itself started to intimidate people, but I don’t think so ...
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2017 13: 22
          0
          Quote: raw174
          Yes? And how do you propose to implement this? Here I am writing here, I am the author, how to control me? Create a site, now students are able not to track ... Well, or how to work in the 37th on denunciations)))

          track down to the computer - ONCE
    3. 34 region
      34 region 21 November 2017 12: 49
      +1
      raw174 Today, 09:01. What will lead to the ideas of Nazism is not difficult to guess. This can be seen in the examples of the radical opposition. And what’s interesting. These radical oppositionists do not lose the support of the enlightened and humane West! Why? The challenge is to take over the world. Will we wait for the absorption of us by the radicals? But they will not bother with control issues. He (control) will be.
  14. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 21 November 2017 09: 04
    +2
    Dear Alexey! Yes, this is a system, but not an education system. Rather, she is not alone. The education system is just an element, a subsystem of a more global system, a revolution in the consciousness of the Russian people! And this system has been operating for almost 30 years! Power with the help of this system solves its problems, the people here are on the side of the heat. Before us is another Overton window. We can be outraged as much as we want and blame everyone, from Putin to the State Department. However, I think we need to start with ourselves and make a decision: do we need such power or not!
  15. gm9019
    gm9019 21 November 2017 09: 08
    +3
    Golden words, Volodin Alexei, but who will hear them ... request
  16. BAI
    BAI 21 November 2017 09: 13
    +5
    Unfortunately it will be like this: a flock of crows shuganuli, she climbed up, circled a couple of circles, sat on a tree and back on a croak. All. The next company ended successfully. There will be no autopsy of the causes and systemic struggle. By the way, the gymnasium (already one name speaks about it) and the parents of the “children” are privileged. The scandal will not give rise. No wonder the whole mayor of the city started up. Soon, both the governor and the presidential representative in the district will catch up.
    1. Dart
      Dart 21 November 2017 16: 14
      0
      A whole spokesperson pulled himself ... I didn’t expect it ...
  17. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 21 November 2017 09: 22
    +6
    Do not dare to interfere us-cats with ss-sovskaya, fascist scum !. We are protesting! In the pictures, the innocent victims of which are used for propaganda purposes! But with them, we (cats) already, then we figured it out .... cruelly, - "according to the laws of wartime ..."
    1. novel66
      novel66 21 November 2017 11: 32
      +7
      not even with propaganda! they, Herods, want to cook them in this helmet, they ran for salt ...
  18. Olgovich
    Olgovich 21 November 2017 09: 25
    +1
    Patriotic portals - it’s “advisable” to press, and govnosites from the category of liberal fakenews with eternal nagging in the style of “rashka everything” will certainly be supported so that the progressive West does not suddenly become angry.

    1.Examples of website support? request
    2. Examples of Western fear in this area?
    While it is only pretending that patriotic movements are supported, nothing will fundamentally change

    Not true: the state is doing, and really, a lot in terms of supporting patriotic movements.
    President of Russia:
    “We have no and cannot have any other unifying idea, except patriotism. We will not come up with any other idea, and there is no need to come up with. This is the national idea. It is not ideologized, not connected with the activities of any party. This is due to a common, unifying beginning. "
    Russian monuments are being restored, Russian history is returning, the Immortal Regiment, and so on and so forth.
    1. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 21 November 2017 12: 41
      +4
      Quote: Olgovich
      We have no and cannot have any other unifying idea, except patriotism .... This is the national idea. It is not ideologized, not connected with the activities of any party.

      Well ... well ... patriotism is not an ideological idea? This is especially funny to hear in Ukraine. A pathetic attempt to portray a national idea that does not exist.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 21 November 2017 12: 52
      +3
      Olgovich Today, 09:25. Monument to Dzerzhinsky already returned?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 21 November 2017 13: 49
        +5
        Now patriotism of several levels: .. 1. November 4.11.1612, 7.11.1917– on November 2, 7.11.1917– is considered a patriot ... 22.06.1941. from November 3.22.06.1941, 09.05.1945 to June 09.05.1945, 21.08.1991, this is not a patriot. 404/XNUMX/XNUMX - on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX- patriot. XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX..that is not a patriot ... Our ideology of patriotism is divided into temporary periods ... St.- this is patriotic and from - not patriotic. .not ideology, but a conflict of the left and right cerebral hemispheres .. Moreover, this conflict was planted throughout the country .. And do not be surprised at Kolya’s performance, let alone outrage, we’re going to this ... Country XNUMX came to this faster, we’ll come to this and we ... You see how the president is referred to ...
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 22 November 2017 07: 03
        0
        Quote: 34 region
        Olgovich Today, 09:25. Monument to Dzerzhinsky already returned?

        What for? belay The fountain, yes, must be returned to the place.
  19. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 21 November 2017 09: 42
    0
    The scandal took place !!! Now, according to the old Russian tradition, checks, commissions, dismissals will begin, and most importantly: the search for the extreme. And the director of the school will turn out to be extreme (as if it were the curriculum).
    The student’s speech is simply not well composed. He said that not all German soldiers wanted war! But did he justify the Nazis and their crimes by saying this? As for me, did not justify.
    1. novel66
      novel66 21 November 2017 11: 33
      11
      and so, reluctantly, they reached the Volga
    2. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 21 November 2017 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: Sergey 777
      He said that not all German soldiers wanted war! But did he justify the Nazis and their crimes by saying this?

      1. Are these, in your opinion, two disjoint sets?
      2. If a man comes with a weapon to a foreign land and kills people reluctantly - does that make him innocent?
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2017 13: 16
      +8
      Quote: Sergey 777
      And the principal will be extreme

      is she not to blame ?!
      Quote: Sergey 777
      He said that not all German soldiers wanted war!

      Do not tell me what they (German soldiers) were doing 2,2 thousand km from Berlin? !!!!

      and this I understand the protest of German soldiers against the war
  20. 1536
    1536 21 November 2017 10: 02
    +1
    We must calm down, because civil wars come from excessive emotional excitement. Everyone knows what the so-called liberal media are capable of. And the media is of a different nature. This intransigence is good when the class struggle takes place. We now have a classless society. Therefore, we are talking about how the Russian Federation will live in the future. Less need to listen to provocateurs, and more to think for yourself. And the Great Patriotic War for us is an unhealed wound, as before. But someone constantly sprinkles salt there, while watching the reaction. And how can one vote for a party whose members provoke society?
    1. SAF
      SAF 22 November 2017 14: 38
      +1
      Class - classless and separation is.
      Those who are on top - oligarchs, nouveau riche, TOPs (Top-managers), deputies, golden youth (new overgrowth - undergrowth)
      Those below are rogues (the upper ones dubbed them so)
  21. Ural resident
    Ural resident 21 November 2017 10: 57
    +4
    Grammar schools are still flowers. In universities you need to look ...
    There generally comes the feeling that students in England are studying.
  22. atos_kin
    atos_kin 21 November 2017 10: 57
    +2
    we are dealing with a system, a system, in fact, of Nazi revenge, which in local areas of a quite visible front celebrates victory after victory over the minds of representatives of modern youth

    And the VO site, publishing praises to the leader of revenge, is not going to stand out from this system.
    And this fact is hardly worth brushing aside.
  23. Sivasa
    Sivasa 21 November 2017 11: 31
    +5
    For 20 years, the people have been beaten off the brain - do not read, do not think, do not speak, do not argue, do not seek, do not doubt. Chew the humorous TV gum and masturbate on the iPhone. And all this was done by our state. For a limited herd is easier to manage. So a generation incapable of critical perception has grown.
  24. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 11: 43
    12
    Quote: The Truth
    The first assistant to the state on this difficult path is the Russian Orthodox Church, traditional Russian denominations. Hence, the enduring importance of the lessons of Orthodox culture, which reveals to the children the beauty of the Russian people, their sacrifice, the power that allowed all the nations included in the Russian state to live and develop in accordance with their own centuries-old traditions, beliefs and principles.

    --------------------------------------
    In the children's camp of the Nazi regiment "Azov" everything is just as you described, all the spiritual bonds of the Slavic peoples. This will not help. Nazism was easily born from Western democracy, Hitler became chancellor in a democratic way. Under bourgeois democracy, society can only drift towards Nazism, especially a humiliated and offended society. Hitler rallied the Germans on the humiliations of the Versailles Peace. Poroshenko rallies Ukraine on the "centuries-old occupation of Russia" and the current "Russian aggression." Capitalism can only give birth to fascism. Especially in conjunction with terry anti-communism.
  25. badens1111
    badens1111 21 November 2017 12: 35
    +1
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    That is, in fact, it’s just a rotten excuse and you don’t give a damn about this very Motherland!

    Accurately worded.
  26. Altona
    Altona 21 November 2017 12: 36
    +3
    Quote: Sergey 777
    The student’s speech is simply not well composed. He said that not all German soldiers wanted war! But did he justify the Nazis and their crimes by saying this? As for me, did not justify.

    -------------------------------------------
    Well, how did you not justify it? I sincerely felt sorry for the “innocently killed” captive of the “air defense captive”. Although the corporal apparently died in early March, he could hardly physically get into the camp in Beketovka when he left the "so-called cauldron". Apparently the "evil NKVDESH guard" should have warm things to him and toss the stew directly into the environment. Such is the paradox of the "history excellence" Kinder Koli, who pity the Wehrmacht soldier.
    Read the link:
    http://maxpark.com/community/14/content/1726371
  27. ando_bor
    ando_bor 21 November 2017 12: 48
    +2
    And what? Germans are really not guilty, - Hitler ombbed them, using despicable features of national mentality:
    - a sense of racial superiority and the desire for world domination.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 22 November 2017 11: 01
      +2
      Quote: ando_bor
      their Hitler zombified

      Yeah! These zombies rasched half of the European part of the USSR with its cities and industry, they killed more than 20 million of our citizens ..... And all this only out of a sense of racial superiority! Yeah, how so!
      And the boy-hare in the pure eye called them innocent dead! In the USSR, this would mean a long prison term and no prospects.
  28. Type Analyst
    Type Analyst 21 November 2017 12: 56
    +5
    I suggest that all journalists, when they interview an official, ask a simple children's question: are German soldiers worthy of our sympathy for the victims of the Great Patriotic War?
    And then we’ll understand: was this young man’s speech a kind of misunderstanding or was this a completely state position. I suppose that the majority, like snakes in a pan, will dodge evading a direct answer.
  29. Curious
    Curious 21 November 2017 13: 12
    +3
    "People-State-Fatherland" is the slogan of every Russian patriot.
    The question is for Truth-maker, but how do your comrades Michelson, Fridman, Usmanov, Potanin, Timchenko, Mordashev, Vekselber, Lisin, Alekperov, Khan, Melnichenko, Rybolovlev, Abramovich, Prokhorov, Kuzmichev, Gutseriev, Galitsky, Skoch, relate to your theory of neonarchy Makhmudov, etc. etc. and bring them numbers. Do they share your patriotic impulse? Do they need him? Will it not interfere with their entrancing process of filling bins (not the Motherland)? Without coordination with these comrades and further down the list, I'm afraid your initiative will remain unclaimed.
  30. gorenina91
    gorenina91 21 November 2017 13: 36
    +3
    -And why are everyone so surprised by the "tolerant and compassionate" statements of a Russian schoolboy ... -Not so long ago, for several years in a row on the STS channel there was a regular telecast "The Most Intelligent" ... - a Russian-Ukrainian television game of an eruditionally entertaining nature ... - She was led by Tina Kandelaki ... -So already then it was alarming how Ukrainian schoolchildren "independently" expressed their "judgments and opinions ..." -Even then, about Bandera, though in passing, they spoke quite loyally about the fact that West Europe -this is the standard and we must bow before it sounded at every step ... -And such "opinion" and "judgment" were so touching and encouraged both from the side of T. Kandelaki herself and other leading ones ..., and on the part of the parents of Ukrainian schoolchildren themselves ... -right as far as saliva came ... -And then there was a maidan in Ukraine and everything that is happening there now ... -After all, many of those Ukrainian schoolchildren have already become adults and may already called up in the Armed Forces .... and their "opinion" is proved not by words, and weapons ...
    -And here in Russia ...- the same “school sprouts" also suddenly appeared ...
    1. Curious
      Curious 21 November 2017 14: 25
      0
      Well, is it Ukraine again to blame? With such an appetite came saliva in Europe, what did you want?
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 21 November 2017 14: 49
        +5
        -Yes, Ukraine is to blame ... -I'm guilty that I didn’t put on a chain, on a short leash, all my “ideologists” from Bandera, from UNA-UNSO .., all the pseudo-scientists-charlatans, leaders of various Ukrainian groups .., who do not give a damn about Ukraine by and large ... - they are even now ready to give Ukraine even under the occupation of Americans, even Germans .., at least someone else ... who suddenly promises them a "paradise life" ...
        -And Russia is to blame ... -in its eternal tolerance, complaisance, readiness for patience .., in the naivety of the expectation that everything will form and dissolve itself ... -That's how Russia dreams of it until the first "roasted rooster" ...
  31. Separatist
    Separatist 21 November 2017 14: 52
    +3
    “Of course, the performance of our Russian schoolchild hardly requires a reaction from the presidential administration. Exalted persecution is incomprehensible, ”said Peskov.

    A spokesman for the Russian president believes that "I consider it wrong to blame him for some evil intent, especially the propaganda of Nazism, for all mortal sins."
    1. Cadet
      Cadet 21 November 2017 16: 18
      0
      The guy will have no problems, that's for sure, according to the results of the Unified State Examination, he will go to TIU (Tyumen Industrial Institute) or TSU (TUM. STATE. UNIVERSITY) to finish him safely, get a job and that's it, they will talk and calm down. And now the question is where and how his parents ended up in URENGOE, that’s what we need to start from and then everything will fall into place.
  32. turbris
    turbris 21 November 2017 16: 33
    +1
    I completely agree with the article, well, someone in our state should be responsible for the ideology, everyone is afraid to repeat the experience of the CPSU, well, something should be replaced - they let everything go by chance. Democrats rule in the media, in education, culture - and this is the result. So who is responsible for the upbringing of the younger generation in the country, except for the parents? Nobody wants to take on this function for themselves, there is still no general history textbook, which must be studied in all educational institutions, and they are taught, each in their own way, just favorable conditions for the “fifth column”. And you think someone will answer for this case - no one, already a bunch of defenders, including the authorities of the region, and the case is really ugly and not the fact that all this was not specially prepared. I will not be surprised that the boy’s parents will soon seek political asylum in Germany.
  33. alexsipin
    alexsipin 21 November 2017 16: 51
    +2
    The Nazis in Moscow appeared long ago, back in the mid-to-late 80s. And judging because they didn’t hide much, they were all under the hood of the Shtirlits from the Lubyanka. And in the wake of them, an ideology justifying the Nazis appeared and began to spread. Moreover, the Nazis were often guys whose older generation went through the war.
  34. VladGashek
    VladGashek 21 November 2017 19: 23
    0
    The policy of revaluing the values ​​of the twentieth century, the role and significance of the USSR in world history has borne fruit. Young people in Russia and Ukraine perceive the events of Russian history in a completely different way. Not those historical figures became heroes: Kolchak, Mannerheim, General Vlasov, L. Bronstein, etc., etc. And true heroes are considered "scoops." And what is the fate of reappraisers? Remember the fate of Diogenes: re-minting of coins (revaluation) in Sinope, and then death in a holey barrel in a wasteland near Athens, began.
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    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 November 2017 19: 41
      0
      the problem for people like you is that you don’t have spirituality, but you don’t have the same pants, because there’s a lot of anger
      I have always been categorically against bans, but you definitely need to ban people like you.
      you don’t have a desire to express your idea or convey an idea, you don’t have either the first or the second, for that great desire to throw a shit at the fan.
  36. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 21 November 2017 20: 10
    +6
    [quote .... We are dealing with a system, a system, in fact, of Nazi revenge, which in local areas of a quite visible front celebrates victory after victory over the minds of representatives of modern youth .... [/ quote]
    Sorry, what did you want?
    The capitalist system has always given birth to either fascism, or Nazism, or both. We do not live, but now we exist in this particular system imposed on us, plus tolerance in the form of a lack of ideology in the 13 article of the Basic Law of the Russian Federation, plus the “freedom” of speech (for those paid). This is the result of the “absence” of ideology and freedom of “expression of will”. "Democracy" in action! Why is everyone so outraged by the performance of the "baby"? I do not like? Wanted freebies in the form of bread and circuses and that for this they also respected national bonds? Bread and circuses all received in full !. It's time to pay. Let me remind you that we are no longer in a free scoop. Here is the "baby" and began to work out a common favor for embedding into pan-European values. Ali we are not Europe?)
    Who is next in line?
  37. vladimirw
    vladimirw 22 November 2017 10: 23
    0
    Few examples of ruins, where are Benders practically controlling power?
  38. boboss
    boboss 22 November 2017 10: 27
    0
    Hitler ....... also kumekatsya what to call him ... except that it is not in dispute. I would refer him to the category of people who shocked the world ...
  39. uskrabut
    uskrabut 22 November 2017 10: 52
    +3
    Well, I don’t believe that this stupid kid invented this text for himself! As far as I know, before each event, even on a district scale, the texts are licked to perfection, the performances are rehearsed until they turn blue and automatism! And then there’s a performance in a foreign country, international level, and no one knew that this bastard would blurt out! I do not believe! THIS IS A NASTY PROVOCATION! Everyone who is involved in this should be punished for the glorification of fascism! Those who selected schoolchildren, who edited the texts of the reports, who accompanied them on the trip, teachers and the leadership of education down to the level of the subject. Now, if this brigade is now planted, then tomorrow this will not happen again!
  40. discript
    discript 22 November 2017 11: 36
    0
    Varyag_0711,
    And you know all that ... Closely follow the dialogue - the past must be remembered and drawn conclusions, it is not necessary to live in the past. And it’s even better to properly understand the past, study, so as not to repeat mistakes. This does not reach you in any way.
  41. chicken 96
    chicken 96 22 November 2017 12: 02
    0
    By the beginning of the Second World War, my mother was a little over a year old, and my father was two months old. Voronezh, H. Kosovka. No, I'm not talking about grandfathers, they are soldiers. I am about children. Mom told a lot. It seems that the age is small, but for some reason he clearly remembers how they hid in the cellars. Yes, my grandmother said that one German doctor, an officer, once took birth, and everything was fine. Thanks to him.
    Do I feel sorry for the German soldier? Probably a pity ..... It is a pity that they did not stop him earlier, and his boot stomped the land of my ancestors. And so it will be with everyone who comes to our house with weapons.
  42. nikvic46
    nikvic46 22 November 2017 12: 13
    +2
    We who were born after the war knew the Heroes of World War II very well. We wanted to be like them. As Vysotsky wrote, “the kids wanted to be like tanks.” But time passed, the country became different. And “myths about war heroes” appeared. They wrote not in samizdat, but in the official press. And now Nikolai Kuznetsov is not a famous scout, but a terrorist.
    And the submarine commander, who sunk about ten thousand of the enemy, is suddenly declared a criminal, since in addition to 998 cadets-future commanders of German boats, there were also wounded in transport. Hitler declared him his personal enemy. And we forgot about his feat. And who had the idea to stop the film "Seventeen Moments of Spring",
    so stop that the actors who played in this film refused the new color version. As long as we get our own dirty
    heroes who fought to live peacefully.
  43. Old military officer
    Old military officer 22 November 2017 12: 18
    0
    So it’s not clear to me from the article, well, I'm very dumb, who should we tap into this system? To those who created this system and allows it to function? The benefits in this are exactly zero on any account. These figures are easily hidden by the so-called freedom of speech and the provisions of the current constitution. It means the matter is in the system itself, but ... it is alarming that these campaigns are unfolding or initiated on the eve of the elections. Consequently, one of the variants of the "color" revolution is being realized. So you need to be especially vigilant and take a closer look at the reaction of the highest echelons of power, to what and to whom measures will be taken. And they should be logical and immediate. So let's see it on the central channels of TV and other mass media.
  44. b-volh
    b-volh 22 November 2017 12: 23
    0
    The German soldier buried in Kopeysk was a prisoner of war for his life, the USSR bears responsibility according to the female convention, of course the Soviet Union did not ratify the Geneva Convention 1929 and therefore the Soviet government 1941-1942, together with Fascist Germany, Germany was responsible for the actions taken by our Soviet soldiers and we are all shy about asking whose fault our captured soldiers died and were reprimanded. With respect to German soldiers, including the C C troops, if they are not personally involved in the military and the angle an apparent crimes. Responsible country containing prisoners

    This provision was also regulated by the relevant decree of the Soviet government.
    http://www.doc20vek.ru/node/337

    "Decree of the CEC and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 46 on the approval of the draft decision of the CEC and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR" Regulations on Prisoners of War. " March 19, 1931 ”

    Note: your example with Feldfebel Zermond is not convincing, he didn’t commit a war crime with a melee weapon and didn’t commit a war, as my late father did on the night of 31st 1, they burst into the Germans ’location with a grenade, then there was a melee where he almost died, one of his own insured him. They met New Year's Eve in a warm German dugout for the first time since arriving at the front since the month of October.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 23 November 2017 11: 16
      +1
      smart ass! And which convention is allowed?
      -Official name - Salaspils Enhanced Police Prison and Labor Education Camp. There were juvenile prisoners whom the Nazis used in their medical experiments. Over the three years of the existence of the Salaspils camp, more than 3,5 thousand liters of child blood were pumped out. Often juvenile prisoners became “full donors”. This meant that they took blood from them until they died.
      -In the Red Bank during the war there was one of the most terrible concentration camps of the Second World War. The Germans gathered here Russian (Slavic) children aged 4 to 15 years. They collected children in order to pump blood from them. Children's blood was intended for transfusion to wounded Germans in hospitals. It was believed that children's blood was healthier, purer than that of adults, so they sucked it out of children as much as they could.

      Children were washed in the bathhouse and driven into the hall, where they were waiting for their turn. A laboratory was equipped in two rooms. The child was seated on a chair, and a little hand was poked into a hole in the septum, where the blood was pumped out to the last drop. The dead children were then taken away and burned on a huge bonfire in the form of a swastika.
      These are just two examples.
      It was not necessary to take prisoners for IT. I would not take
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 23 November 2017 11: 29
        +1
        Quote: Overlock
        smart ass!

        What is he "wise guy" if an outright liar is on his face
        The refusal to accede to the Geneva Convention was ideological in nature. In particular, it provided that privileges (for example, salary) and the opportunity to wear insignia in the camp were provided for officers. At the same time, the Geneva Convention provided for the possibility of mandatory involvement of prisoners of war in the work, which the leadership of the USSR did not like. There were other points with which the USSR did not agree. As a result, the Soviet Union adopted on March 19, 1931 its own "Regulation on Prisoners of War". Following its adoption, a document was prepared that outlines the differences between this provision and the Geneva Convention. So that you can understand what the difference is, we will give it in full: CONCLUSION OF THE CONSULTANT MALITSKY ON THE DRAFT RESOLUTION OF THE CEC AND SNK OF THE USSR "REGULATION ON POWERS" Moscow, March 27, 1931 July 27, 1929 The Geneva Conference developed a convention on the detention of prisoners of war. The USSR government did not participate in the drafting of this convention or in its ratification. Instead of this convention, this Regulation was developed, the draft of which was adopted by the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR from March 19 this year. The basis of the draft of this provision is based on three thoughts: 1) to create for our prisoners of war a regime that would not be worse than the regime of the Geneva Convention; 2) to issue, as far as possible, a brief law that does not reproduce the details of all the guarantees provided by the Geneva Convention, so that these details constitute the subject of instructions that are enforceable to the law; 3) to give the issue of prisoners of war a statement corresponding to Soviet principles of law (the inadmissibility of privileges for officers, the optional involvement of prisoners of war in work, etc.) Thus, this Regulation is generally based on the same principles as the Geneva Convention, somehow : the prohibition of cruel treatment of prisoners of war, insults and threats, the prohibition of applying coercive measures to obtain military information from them, providing them with civil legal capacity and extending to them the general laws of the country, the prohibition of using them in a war zone, etc. However, in order to harmonize this Regulation with the general principles of Soviet law, the Regulation introduced the following differences from the Geneva Convention: a) there are no benefits for officers, indicating the possibility of keeping them separately from other prisoners of war (art. 3); b) distribution to prisoners of war of a civil rather than a military regime (Articles 8 and 9); c) the granting of political rights to prisoners of war belonging to the working class or not exploiting the foreign labor of the peasantry, on a common basis with other foreigners who are on the territory of the USSR (Article 10); d) providing [possibility] to prisoners of the same nationality at their request to be placed together; e) the so-called camp committees gain broader camp competence, having the right to freely communicate with all bodies to represent all interests of prisoners of war in general, and not only confine themselves to receiving and distributing packages, the functions of the mutual assistance cash desk (Article 14); f) the prohibition of wearing insignia and non-refusal to honor the rules (Article 18); g) the prohibition of hedging (art. 34); h) the appointment of a salary not only for officers, but for all prisoners of war (art. 32); i) the involvement of prisoners of war in work only with their consent (Article 34) and with the application of the general legislation on protection and working conditions (Article 36), as well as the distribution to them of wages in the amount not lower than existing in the given area for the corresponding category of workers, etc. Taking into account that this bill establishes a regime for the detention of prisoners of war no worse than the Geneva Convention, that is why the principle of reciprocity can be extended without prejudice to both the USSR and individual prisoners of war, that the number of articles of the provision is reduced to 45 instead of 97 in the Geneva Convention that the principles of Soviet law have been implemented in the Regulation, there is no objection to the adoption of this bill. * * * * * GA of the Russian Federation, f. 3316, op. 64, d.1049, l.1-1a. Typescript.

        Source: http://statehistory.ru/36/Povliyalo-li-nepodpisan
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    2. badens1111
      badens1111 23 November 2017 11: 27
      +1
      Quote: b-volh
      Of course, the Soviet Union did not ratify the Geneva Convention of 1929, and therefore the Soviet government, 1941-1942, together with Fascist Germany, Germany, was responsible for our actions, and we are all shy about asking whose fault our captured soldiers were responsible for;

      Oh well ... Wow, that means the Nazis killed our prisoners, but the USSR is to blame anyway? Where have you been taught? In London?
      There is a persistent myth that the cruel treatment of the Nazis against Soviet prisoners of war - incomparably more cruel than with prisoners from the Western European armies, was caused by the fact that the USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention on the Containment of Prisoners of War of July 29, 1929, and therefore Hitler supposedly hands were legally untied. It is worthwhile to understand in more detail which international documents the USSR actually signed and which did not. On July 27, 1929, 2 documents were signed in Geneva: 1) Convention on the Improvement of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field. 2) The Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War. The USSR joined the first convention in 1930, about which there is a declaration ["Documents of Foreign Policy", (Moscow, 1968, volume 14. p. 493)] Declaration [People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs of the USSR on the accession of the USSR to the Geneva Convention of July 27, 1929 ] [August 25, 1931] The undersigned People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics hereby announces that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics adheres to the Convention on the Improvement of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces, concluded in Geneva on July 27, 1929. In the certificate of which the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, duly authorized for this purpose, signed this declaration of accession. According to the decision of the Central Executive Committee of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of May 12, 1930, this accession is final and does not need further ratification. Installed in Moscow on August 25, 1931 M. Litvinov

      Source: http://statehistory.ru/36/Povliyalo-li-nepodpisan
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  45. Earnest
    Earnest 22 November 2017 15: 58
    0
    Quote: b-volh
    The German soldier buried in Kopeysk was a prisoner of war for his life, the USSR bears responsibility according to the female convention, of course the Soviet Union did not ratify the Geneva Convention 1929 and therefore the Soviet government 1941-1942, together with Fascist Germany, Germany was responsible for the actions taken by our Soviet soldiers and we are all shy about asking whose fault our captured soldiers died and were reprimanded. With respect to German soldiers, including the C C troops, if they are not personally involved in the military and the angle an apparent crimes. Responsible country containing prisoners
    ... Note: Your example with Feldfebel Zermond is not convincing, using a grenade as a melee weapon, he did not commit a war crime ...

    You know, there is a saying: "A clever head is given to a fool." Do you not understand that in the example of sergeant major, the key is not a grenade as an instrument for the murder of Soviet soldiers by a fascist scum, but the fact of publication of this story as an example of "heroism" ?? When a native speaker of the Russian language admires the “heroic” ones, on the verge of self-sacrifice by the actions of a “skilled soldier”, and doesn’t feel the sacred hatred of the killer who came to our land for his farmland, for Slav Slaves?
  46. SAF
    SAF 22 November 2017 16: 30
    +3
    Quote: badens1111
    Let not yours cry, And his mother who gave birth, Not yours, but his family; In vain, let him wait.

    There is no forgiveness for the Europoid-fascist-Nazi military personnel (he did not specifically tell the invaders that no one would dodge).
    No one innocently and accidentally ended up in Brest, Minsk, Kiev, near Leningrad (for the victims of the USE - St. Petersburg) Stalingrad, Sevastopol, Odessa .... and a large part of the USSR (now almost Russia)
    Glory to the fallen heroes and unremarked.
    God forbid the country will be reborn to spite enemies!
  47. Natalia777
    Natalia777 22 November 2017 19: 05
    +1
    I agree to all 100. The article for the glorification of fascism needs to be criminalized and punished, imprisoned saboteurs.
  48. pRofF
    pRofF 22 November 2017 19: 07
    +1
    Actually, I found the required group and wrote a complaint to the VC administration. We'll see what they answer. If I’m writing anything to the prosecutor’s office laughing
    Actually, if someone wants to join the "hunt" - write in a personal, give a link to the IT, you can also send a request to the administration.
  49. Clone
    Clone 22 November 2017 21: 55
    0
    Quote: SkepticCynic
    And about ideology, then from the foregoing it will be the number one goal for ridicule, no one will take it seriously.

    “Ideology,” as a concept, did not disappear anywhere. She just changed, twisted and perverted. The denial of ideology is also this very ideology, a system of views and ideas, a worldview. Not to perceive, to deny it is a classic example of infantilism, if not more ...
  50. Clone
    Clone 22 November 2017 22: 36
    +1
    Quote: 1536
    We now have a classless society.

    If you say that this phrase struck down on the spot, then say nothing! belay We even have "nobles" appeared ... albeit self-proclaimed.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 23 November 2017 11: 10
      0
      Shoigu got a family coat of arms. What is it for?