In St. Petersburg, a new ship of the 22800 Typhoon project will be launched

The second small rocket ship "Typhoon" project 22800 ("Karakurt") will be launched on November 24 in St. Petersburg, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.

Two small rocket ships [IRAs] of the 22800 project, the Hurricane and Typhoon, were simultaneously laid at the St. Petersburg shipbuilding enterprise Pella, 24, December 2015 of the year. The main small missile ship "Hurricane" is currently on the water near the factory's embankment

- told in the Russian military department.

Small rocket ships of the 22800 project have proven their effectiveness and reliability in operation, performing tasks in the far sea zone and in particular in the Mediterranean

- quoted in the Ministry of Defense the words of Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy for armaments, Vice-Admiral Viktor Bursuk.

Ships will alternately become part of the Naval fleet after completion of construction work and all stages of testing. They were designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau, have a displacement of about 800 tons, a speed of over 30 knots, and are equipped with a complex of high-precision missile weapons and modern artillery complexes, power plants of Russian production.

Among the main advantages of these ships are high maneuverability, increased seaworthiness, as well as the architecture of superstructures and hulls, made according to technologies of low reflectivity. Ships can perform tasks in the sea zone at a distance from the bases about 3 thousand miles, transmits TASS

Comments

[RASKAT]

Faster already, we need more of these kids. All the fellows taking part, keep it up.

[DEPARTMENT-M4]

After the Caspian Sea (blow to hell in Syria), I treat such "small" missile ships with respect!
There was a sin, he maliciously scolded poachers .... But it turns out that the bug is small, but it smelly .. hehe!

[RASKAT]

But who would have thought that such a mosquito fleet would almost completely block Europe and the Middle East from its waters. Now, direct from the bases of what kind of BF you can sharashit for example in Madrid, Rome, Paris, London

[tihonmarine]

Well, the "Lightning 2" can be upgraded and put on stream. Small, but armed with “Caliber” is a very effective thing, the main thing is to build quickly and cheaply.

[HEATHER]

Little high-speed tooth This is “Hurricane.” We are waiting for “Typhoon.”

[Vadim Zhivov]

Pella is faster and better than USC companies. And the dates are not shifted to her as approximate.

[Pirogov]

Quote: VadimLives

Pella is faster and better than USC companies. And the dates are not shifted to her as approximate.

But it is far from being built by destroyers or even frigates.

[Vadim Zhivov]

Laid at the same time that's the whole answer. And at the expense of frigates each has his own tasks and Pella copes with them successfully. Everyone would work like that.

[Going]

But it is far from being built by destroyers or even frigates.

Everything will come in handy on the farm.

[210ox]

I do not beg for the merits of the Pella shipbuilders, but still it’s impossible to compare labor costs and problems that are not the fault of shipbuilders in other shipyards

Quote: VadimLives

Laid at the same time that's the whole answer. And at the expense of frigates each has his own tasks and Pella copes with them successfully. Everyone would work like that.

[Vadim Zhivov]

I completely agree with you ... I just answered a statement about the destroyers and frigates that she does not build ... The tasks assigned to Pelle are performed well ...

[tihonmarine]

The destroyers need turbines that were manufactured in Nikolaev. So you have to be content with "Typhoons" and "Serpukhov."

[Manul]

Quote: Pirogov

But it is far from being built by destroyers or even frigates.

But less money is allocated to the RTOs than to the destroyer. The capacities of the plants are different, the meaning of production is the same. There are no delays, put on stream. (At heart, I agree with you, but the point here is not the complexity of large projects, but the rottenness and greed above. Where there is not much money to cut, then they do not interfere)

[Kurare]

Quote: VadimLives

Pella is faster and better than USC companies.

The specialists there are good and the youth managed to train on time. Nowadays, in most cases, this is a lack of qualified and motivated personnel. "Cadres decide everything!" (from)

[Bourbon]

Quote: VadimLives

And the dates are not shifted to her as approximate.

but on Borey-A - the second in Serie A and the fifth in the general account, no money was found, which is very sad and annoying ....

[Botanologist]

Quote: Burbon

but on Borey-A - the second in Serie A and the fifth in the general account, no money was found

How could it be ... more careful ... money may have been found, but so many expenses are on the USC, such a gambel .... there is not enough of a mere trifle. They didn’t see ... After all, Rakhmanov did not say that they did not give money. Said - NOT ENOUGH. But no matter how much he does, he’s not enough, that's all.

[Bourbon]

Quote: Botanologist

. After all, Rakhmanov did not say that they did not give money. Said - NOT ENOUGH. But no matter how much he’ll come to him, that's all

the essence of the matter does not change ... the terms are shifted to uncertainty ((

[tihonmarine]

Well, the first four are unfinished USSR boats of the 667 project, and the new one costs a lot of money, and even when the whole world wants to split something off from Russia. We must build quickly, reliably and most importantly cheaply.

[next322]

“Project 22800 small missile ships have proven their effectiveness and operational reliability by completing tasks in the far sea zone and, in particular, in the Mediterranean Sea


some kind of nonsense ..... how did they prove it? if not one in the Navy

[san4es]

Quote: next322

... some kind of nonsense ..... how did they prove it? if not one in the Navy

... The author was mistaken. He's about the "Buyan" pr 21631

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: san4es

Quote: next322

... some kind of nonsense ..... how did they prove it? if not one in the Navy

... The author was mistaken. He's about the "Buyan" pr 21631

finally they give the words as a quote ... so, most likely, the military made a slip of the tongue !!!

[tihonmarine]

Yeah! “Hurricane” is being built since 2015 of the year “is being built afloat”, and on December 24 it will be 2 of the year, “Typhoon” is also laid down 24.12.2015 but has not yet been lowered, it’s also strained with engines. In general, the state of the construction of the fleet is not much better than in Ukraine.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: tihonmarine

the state of the construction of the fleet is not much better than in Ukraine

VNA Ukraine, nothing is being built at all.

[Romario_Argo]

22800 project ships will replace several RTO types at once
1241 Ave. - 26 units;
1234 Ave. - 12 units;
206MP Ave. - 1 units;
12412 Ave. - 6 units;

[cniza]

Ships can perform tasks in the marine zone at a distance of about 3 thousand miles from the bases, reports TASS

Serious action area.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: cniza

Ships can perform tasks in the marine zone at a distance of about 3 thousand miles from the bases, reports TASS

Serious action area.

You can shnalm "Caliber" without leaving the base !!!

[tihonmarine]

And you yourself, then went to sea on 3000 miles on such a "baby"?

[GAF]

Mosquito fleet. Target designation for "Caliber" (and on the approach of "Zircons") from space. Relatively cheap and cheerful.

[Jack O'Neill]

Destroyers would have handed over in two years, and not MRK ...
But in any case, you can even be happy here, because it is better than nothing!

[Alex 2016]

Destroyers in two years, this is for the Chinese. They are now over ... have learned how to make ships of rank 1 and 2 in a short time. And these are not outdated projects, as some will now begin to argue, but quite modern and powerful. See how the clones of poor Kuzi are stamped and at what time.

[Jack O'Neill]

What is China, what is the USA, what is RK.
They have everything set up, so the time is small.

[Alex 2016]

I agree that we have been tuned, tuned for over a decade, and they can’t set anything apart from giving and promises. I hope the situation will change for the better, and messages such as that the fleet received XX ships in the year XXXX will mean ships of serious classes, and not tugboats, traveling boats, etc. And the terms of their construction will be significantly reduced)

[Jack O'Neill]

I hope for that too, but still the logic tells me otherwise.
To set everything up, you need to shake up all the thieves, including their relatives. There will be typed on all four fleets, and even much more.
Just enter the duty in the transfer of terms. Not passed - pay at least 0.5% of the vessel. This applies to the tops, and not to ordinary guys with a welding machine.
Also introduce real criminal terms that will also encourage the development of the shipbuilding industry.
And of course, the most important thing is to increase the salary of employees, instead of “parachutes” to the servants of the people.

I hope that the FSB will not come after me for this post.

[Alex 2016]

They will not come)) I completely agree with you.

[Jack O'Neill]

They will not come)) I completely agree with you.

[Cat]

Wait, they will invite you!

[Alex 2016]

Once upon a time, income and roofs are shared. Yes, on Geliki for graduation children collect.

[St Petrov]

1) the office offended?
2) how much you need to save for renting a helix for filming a clip (an hour or two)

I will answer you the second question myself.

Rent with a driver - 3000 / hour • Without a driver –from 7000 / day •

Could you afford once in a lifetime to celebrate a graduation in helik for four?

About the fact that these wretched sowed throughout the country a separate conversation. it is about the context of gelendvagen yes to raise money

[Bronevick]

What are two years? The Chinese destroyer did in 9 weeks.

[tihonmarine]

Under the USSR it was the 2 of the year, the destroyer, the boat of the 6 of the months.

[Herculesic]

You need to scream at least, urgently start building helicopter carriers! At least there, on the Black Sea! !!!

[shark]

What for? With our naval coastal defense doctrine, an absolutely useless expensive toy. But yes, prestige, of course, and the eye is nice. But we do not live in union. Unfortunately ... Money and expediency are everything.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Herkulesich

You need to scream at least, urgently start building helicopter carriers! At least there, on the Black Sea! !!!

where to bring the helicopters gathered !!!

[next322]

Quote: Herkulesich

“We need to scream at least, urgently start building helicopter carriers! At least there, on the Black Sea! !!!

before yelling, you need to at least build buoys with karakurts, and complete the BDK ....

[Safer]

But I’m still waiting for the introduction of the lead ship of project 22160. For the Black Sea Fleet, ships are very necessary.

[Botanologist]

Quote from rudolf

Why are they so needed?

At least by the fact that you don’t have to chase after the pirates everything that can still move on its own from the mooring wall. And it is desirable to provide a presence in the Mediterranean and the Gulf of Aden not with Kuzey and Moscow, but with such light ships. And in order to look at the pirate kayak, you have to chase the crew with helicopters, Granites - Mosquitoes, Forts and very useful for fighting pirates of the 150-mm caliber on 300-130.

[Bronevick]

While it reaches the Gulf of Aden, how many times do you need to refuel it, and where? Kuzya could not reach the Mediterranean without refueling.

[Botanologist]

Quote: Bronevick

While it reaches the Gulf of Aden, how many times do you need to refuel it, and where? Kuzya could not reach the Mediterranean without refueling.

Well you gas station "Kuzi" with the gas station of this lighter do not compare. In Tartussa, it will be required to drive, the tanker will fit in the ridge.

[Safer]

Quote from rudolf

Why are they so needed?

Impressive anti-sabotage potential. But we do not twist, we border on the devil sea with a very inadequate neighbor. There were already sabotage on land. I will be very surprised if they do not try once and at sea to arrange them.

[Botanologist]

“Small missile ships of the 22800 project have proven their effectiveness and reliability in operation, performing tasks in the far sea zone and in particular in the Mediterranean Sea /
What kind of nonsense? Is the journalism suffering or the commander-in-chief past projects?

[Mountain shooter]

Normal such boats, deadly and inconspicuous. And their range is completely "marine". If anything, and get to Iceland, and to Newfoundland.

[tihonmarine]

And you went to the North, Barents or Norwegian seas. An amateur, he is always an amateur, "The infantry a hundred miles has passed and is still hunting."

[alexmach]

Small rocket ships of the 22800 project have proven their effectiveness and reliability in operation, performing tasks in the far sea zone and in particular in the Mediterranean

Hello to you. Another head stands at the outfitting wall, but they have already proved something ...

[Berkut24]

A respite to the Pellites. Private enterprise, and they know their work. Stamped like on a conveyor boat. Right on time.

[petrol cutter]

No, well, launching into the water does not mean "tomorrow in battle." And by the way, I, as a person who recently joined Pella and works on the orders of this project in the Black Sea, have a lot of questions regarding the organization of work for the leadership of this same Pella. So, ex-employees of SZ "More" will not rush to sing diferembes to them. Let's wait and see how it goes on.

[Berkut24]

I compare with other enterprises. About 15 years ago, and launching a boat on the water was a problem throughout the country.
Good luck to you. And to your fellow employees. Everything will form. NW "Sea" for Pella is still, as it were, in the load. I think that Pella herself would have done with pleasure "from and to." And in Moscow they think how to load Crimean enterprises. Here conflict is inevitable.

[petrol cutter]

I'm not that complaining. The thing is that its own capacities do not allow to overpower the accumulated state order on time. Plus there is talk of increasing the series. Therefore, the areas of our factory were rented. This is rather good than bad. The only thing that worries is the lack of tools, consumables and other little things. Three months already how we work! But no one has canceled the deadlines. It got to the point that I am carrying a power tool from home (which, of course, will die here, it is clear that no one is compensating me for this). Strange somehow it turns out. Let’s say then, with their cranes, they must come to work. Turners with their machines ... Again, the salary, some kind of turbidity. Well, okay, in the wilds I climbed somewhere.

[kapitan281271]

Quote: Petrol cutter

I'm not that complaining. The thing is that its own capacities do not allow to overpower the accumulated state order on time. Plus there is talk of increasing the series. Therefore, the areas of our factory were rented. This is rather good than bad. The only thing that worries is the lack of tools, consumables and other little things. Three months already how we work! But no one has canceled the deadlines. It got to the point that I am carrying a power tool from home (which, of course, will die here, it is clear that no one is compensating me for this). Strange somehow it turns out. Let’s say then, with their cranes, they must come to work. Turners with their machines ... Again, the salary, some kind of turbidity. Well, okay, in the wilds I climbed somewhere.

The same thing I only work in a serious seemingly federal company !!!!!!!!!!

[Berkut24]

Everyone looks at the situation from their bell tower. Pella went to this order for a very long time. I used to do at the level of tugs and diving vessels. Ships of the Karakurt-Dagestan level were made only by Zelenodolsk. And then the MO agreed that a private company could take over part of the order. And now, “Pella” faces the fact that she must create and train herself a future competitor for her money and due to her order. It so often happens with us that some goshotelki are made by businessmen for their money. The Sochi Olympics is an example of this.
As the head of my enterprise, I put myself in the place of the head of Pella. Assume that the order is not delayed. What is the plus of such orders? They force to move and develop production, increase capacity. Having a firm order, you can get a development loan from the bank. And for Pella, it is most reasonable to do the expansion within the framework of the capacities that are already on the Neva, because later it will be possible to count on larger orders. And their Government is bending to invest in Crimean production with the prospect of transferring a piece of bread there, which Pella is counting on. How should the director of Pella play in this situation? So how is he doing now. It prevents the future competitor from accelerating with the implementation of current contracts on the verge of a temporary foul. And to fulfill the contract, and not give birth to a competitor. Because it is a commercial production and there everything is financially fine. No one has canceled taxes. The state will not support if something happens. State issues of production development in the Crimea for the St. Petersburg shipyard are kind of softer to say ... well, not in the first places. So how the issues are resolved at your enterprise in this particular situation do not speak about the unprofessionalism of the Pella management. Quite the opposite.

[Alexey-74]

Toddlers are very dangerous guys for any opponent, given their weapons, of course, of course, Caliber.