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Gymnasium in the YNAO will check after the scandalous performance of schoolchildren in the Bundestag

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The head of the administration of New Urengoy, Ivan Kostogriz, decided to stand up for a schoolboy at a local gymnasium sent as part of a delegation to Berlin to submit a report on the Great Patriotic War. Today "Military Review" published material about how high school student Nikolai Desyatnichenko, speaking in the Bundestag, said that "German soldiers did not want to fight," and that their graves in Russia "are in a terrible state." The young man called the very dead in captivity in Hitler invaders in the USSR “innocent people who died”.


Ivan Kostogriz published his statement about the speech of a student from Novy Urengoy on the official website:
I urge to be guided by common sense, assessing the performance of the student in Germany. Meeting of Russian and German children on the Day of Remembrance and Grief in Germany is a long tradition. In the words of the head of state, “Russian and German schoolchildren come together and together can look at the tragedies of the past, together analyze the consequences of national intolerance, the desire to enslave entire countries and peoples.”

Nikolay Desyatnichenko shared his discoveries that not all Germans wanted to fight, many just wanted to live peacefully. In no case can this be regarded as a boy’s attitude to fascism. His speech is an example stories This German soldier calls for a peaceful existence throughout the world and the rejection of war, bloodshed, fascism, suffering and violence per se.

I will note that the children of the New Urals Region are always distinguished by a feeling of patriotism, love for the Motherland, pride in the history of the Russian state, the feat of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers. The interpretation of adults by the child’s sincere words can be regarded as a provocation not only against the student, but the entire Russian people and our attitude to the events of the history of the Great Patriotic War.

I am sure that common sense will win.


Meanwhile, the Federation Council initiated a check in the same gymnasium, which sent the student with his message to Berlin.
It was noted that the program for which students of the gymnasium are engaged should be studied in detail. In the upper house of parliament they said they consider such speeches unacceptable.

Gymnasium in the YNAO will check after the scandalous performance of schoolchildren in the Bundestag


A deputy of the legislative assembly of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District, Elena Kukushkina, in connection with the student’s speech, sent an appeal to the regional prosecutor’s office, the department of education and the local gymnasium. According to her, the adolescent's speech itself was prepared tendentiously, which read from such phrases as “German soldiers fought”, “German soldiers who fell in battles”, “innocent people who died”. According to the deputy, at this rate you can reach the revision of the results of the Great Patriotic War.

Everything is as usual: they started to check after the incident manifested itself, and in this case it also showed on the international arena.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 November 2017 14: 26 New
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    Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 20 November 2017 14: 28 New
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      There you need to check starting with the mayor.
      "The mayor of Novy Urengoy interceded for a schoolboy who pity the Wehrmacht soldier" - https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
      D1%82%D0%B8/1062129/mer_novogho_urienghoia_zastup

      ilsia_za_shkolnika_pozhalievshiegho_soldat_vierma
      khta

      It is interesting.
      The mayor of Novy Urengoy, Kostogriz Ivan Ivanovich graduated from the Higher Komsomol School under the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history, qualification as a teacher of history.
      In 1989, he was approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Party Committee.
      Tsey flop from Ukraine.
      To whom do we justify fascism if not to him?
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 20 November 2017 14: 47 New
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        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Tsey flop from Ukraine.
        To whom do we justify fascism if not to him?

        How primitive ... This mayor is yours, so don't get out.

        The Yamal deputy Yelena Kukushkina, a member of the Committee for the Development of the Agro-Industrial Complex and Affairs of Indigenous Minorities of the North, the head of the deputy faction of the Political Party "Communist Party" in the Legislative Assembly of the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, has already expressed her civic position.

        - I’m more concerned not with this boy, but with who was in charge of his project. This is what struck me the most - that in this report, the German invaders use such words as “fought”, “fallen soldiers in battles”, “the so-called Stalingrad cauldron” ... The manner in which the report was delivered struck. These things need to be radically nipped. So we get to the point that we propose to review the results of the Great Patriotic War. This is outrageous, Yelena Kukushkina commented on her actions to Komsomolskaya Pravda-Yamal. The chosen one submitted requests to the regional prosecutor’s office, the department of education and the gymnasium to find out who oversaw this project, for what purpose the material was presented.

        - Now the gymnasium from this guy is trying to make "Dove of Peace". In words at the gymnasium, they said that now everyone has attacked the poor guy, but they did not attack the guy, it’s clear that adults stand behind him, - explained Elena Kukushkina.
        https://www.stav.kp.ru/daily/26756.5/3789974/
        1. Sergey-svs
          Sergey-svs 20 November 2017 15: 08 New
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          Of course, no one wanted to fight. yes Just German "tourists" accidentally got into the Stalingrad boiler! lol
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 20 November 2017 15: 27 New
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            Drown the bastard in a barrel with jam and pour a pile of cookies on top - to get drunk. am
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 20 November 2017 15: 30 New
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              Judging by the long-standing photo, his dad works for him in Gazprom. http://tutnaidut.com/user199000088
              And more info.
              Mom or aunt has a lawyer in Novy Urengoy. http://www.juristbase.ru/e/2613565-advokatskiy-ka
              binet-desyatnichenko-oksana-ev
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              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 20 November 2017 15: 33 New
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                This is what "bought immortality" negative and not such "popular anger" overtook. And it would also be nice to deal with Gazprom for such "tricks", I can smell it in my mouth - the parents of this toggle are stealing or are involved in corruption (if there was a person - there would be an article)
                1. Monos
                  Monos 20 November 2017 18: 30 New
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                  Meanwhile, the Federation Council initiated a check in the same gymnasium, which sent the student with his message to Berlin.

                  And what is there to check? Here, for example, is the account of the SON of the history teacher of this student.
                  1. Dryuya2
                    Dryuya2 20 November 2017 18: 42 New
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                    koment with RT - screen

                    -
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 20 November 2017 20: 25 New
                      +9
                      Quote: Dryuya2
                      And what is there to check? Here, for example, is the account of the SON of the history teacher of this student.

                      ... win hello ... hi ... morning is wiser than the evening ... I'll wait with comments ... which I wish for everyone ... hi
                      Quote: Dryuya2
                      koment with RT - screen

                      ... everything is painful Beautifully and without a Mistake ... everything is as if by the notes ... there are no fools in the BND, the heirs of Abwehr ... in my opinion events will be more interesting in a bit further ... it seems the boy was simply used "in the dark." .. in intelligence there is no morality and principles ... there is only a result ... hi
                      P.S. ... I don’t like when everything is “right in the suit” and “without a hitch” ... personal opinion ...
                      1. Monos
                        Monos 20 November 2017 22: 28 New
                        +6
                        Hello, Lesha! hi
                        Quote: Inok10
                        it seems the boy just used "in the dark"

                        I think so too, but ... I personally, in my Komsomol youth, would never have thought of making excuses for Stalingrad. And no one would come close to me with such a proposal. He came ...
                        Well, and if it’s the special spirit of the Services ... I don’t even know ... there are always other options. In addition, I am sure that such a bomb in “denazified” Germany will not work properly and even vice versa. With all the denazification of Germany, the Nazis were never persecuted there, and even with pleasure they took to the service. No, these are not Services.
                      2. Inok10
                        Inok10 20 November 2017 22: 30 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Monos
                        I think so too, but ... I personally, in my Komsomol youth, would never have thought of making excuses for Stalingrad. And no one would come close to me with such a proposal. He came ...

                        ... did not come ... fall behind from the boy who "played" ... read below my comment ... Sincerely! ... soldier
                        P.S. ... and yes, Vit ... But, from what kind of Social Network did you bring the picture above? ... I don’t recognize in makeup ... do you feel the approach? ... where is the address? ... hi
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                      4. DivanVoyin
                        DivanVoyin 21 November 2017 11: 11 New
                        +1
                        “Our business is so dirty that only true gentlemen can deal with it” (R. Gelen, founder of the BND).
                    2. Monos
                      Monos 20 November 2017 23: 06 New
                      +7
                      Quote: Inok10
                      But, from what kind of Social Network did you bring the picture above?

                      I took her from Voice of Mordor @spacelordrock on Twitter. Others do not read. But I understood your thought. smile
                      I understand that he (son. - RT) did not understand that the meaning of speech has changed, ”she added.

                      ! 7-year-old guy, "studying history and knowing how priorities are set" did not understand that the meaning has changed? Lesha, I beg you!
                      And then: "prioritized"! What are the priorities for the same thing ?! What is it about? Has the global environment changed and priorities changed? And we are no longer a country that pacified Nazism, but a vicious aggressor. So what? Can you imagine their atmosphere in the family?
                      Yes, I am inclined to agree with you that this may be a BND operation. But you yourself know what “material” the Services most often have to work with. hi
                      P.S. I thought that it would be nice to listen to other students there. Found one, but in German. Alas.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 20 November 2017 23: 48 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Monos
                        ! 7-year-old guy, "studying history and knowing how priorities are set" did not understand that the meaning has changed? Lesha, I beg you!

                        ... no Vit, I beg you ... at 18 on the parade ground ... hay-straw, right-left confused ... laughing ... ah, you want from BABY that he "left" the game "Adult Uncles" ... Vit, Morality, is it ... or isn’t there ... I repeat, keep up with the Boy-Schoolboy, they "played" ... ah, you WISE-GRID-WISDOM and MIND ... CONDEMNED! ... WHO? ... A SCHOOL BOY? ... which was simply "divorced" ... below it is written how and why ... why are you here Mustache and a stake with a stake? ... the Warrior's Law - Do not touch Women and Children! ... here's the answer for you - the Nazis have touched and are still touching, the current history is a vivid confirmation . well, those who sing along with them ... sorry Vit! ... so is the essence of what is happening ...
                      2. Monos
                        Monos 21 November 2017 00: 03 New
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                        Quote: Inok10
                        ah, you want from BABIES

                        Yes, it’s not a boy’s business! I feel sorry for him too. No, not in the boy, but in those "priorities" that they poured into their heads. And in those who flood. His classmate Ira Kokorina also performed there.
                        “I was impressed by what I saw, since so many died innocent people who wanted a peaceful life. Thanks to this project, I was able to study in more detail the biographies of German soldiers, learn about their lives, and dive deep into that difficult wartime. ”

                        They wrote a text. They have read. They WAS READY to read it. And someone had prepared them before ... Talking about those who shaped their readiness.
                        Okay, you and I are worried about different things. And both are right ... smile
                      3. Inok10
                        Inok10 21 November 2017 00: 26 New
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                        Quote: Monos
                        Yes, it’s not a boy’s business! I feel sorry for him too.

                        ... Dont touch him ...
                        Quote: Monos
                        I feel sorry for him too.

                        ... I do not see ...
                        Quote: Monos
                        No, not in the boy, but in those "priorities" that they poured into their heads.

                        ... once again, not every professional intelligence officer will be able to get out of this situation ... believe me Vit, it is very difficult when you are in the enemy’s territory and are limited by the time limit and the rules of speech ... well, this is just the Schoolboy from whom you demand the behavior of Vladimir Putin at the Munich conference, what are you talking about ?! ... that YOU have to present him ... everything is described ... the speech was prepared from July at home in Urengoy, at the last moment in Germany they give a 2-minute restriction on the condition previously agreed to tell about the fate of the German soldier ... and what do you want from the boy? ... you yourself would not have linked the two words ... he rules on the go at 17 years old, he is visiting ... trying not to offend ... they are "played" by "Uncle Adults", in other ways it was planned .. from this such Howl and Cry in Runet ... Jackals howl for them crying ... Liberasts clap their hands, the Communists shoot the Traitor for 17 years, for unconsciousness ... and for everyone Profit ... except for the Guy ... on it Adult Uncles and you, including yourself, are drawing ratings and benefits ... Vit is sick ... you don’t understand us from the army ... we don’t understand you ... we have the Honor, you dishonor you ... Are you ready to PR for Children, at least on the Babies ... The old men the year before last on the Immortal regiment tried ... not sickeningly? ... Where is the honor? ...
                        Quote: Monos
                        Okay, you and I are worried about different things. And both are right ...

                        . I worry one at a time that Russian, it turns out, can raise a hand on both Woman and Child ... I don’t understand how Russian this is ...
                      4. Monos
                        Monos 21 November 2017 00: 31 New
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                        Quote: Inok10
                        we have Honor, you dishonor ...

                        Thank you, Lesha, for your frankness. Come on.
                  2. pvv113
                    pvv113 20 November 2017 22: 08 New
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                    Victor, welcome! I found this article "The situation with the Urengoy schoolchild takes an interesting turn"

                    Source: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/101757-situaciya-su
                    rengoyskim-shkolnikom-prinimaet-interesnyy-povoro
                    t.html
                    Politikus.ru
                    In general, the plot is famously twisted !!! Survived - Bandera in Russia teach children history lessons
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 20 November 2017 22: 21 New
                      +7
                      Quote: pvv113
                      I found this article "The situation with the Urengoy schoolchild takes an interesting turn"

                      ... here's a really interesting turn! ... Source: https://cont.ws/@andersen/773598 ... someone has doubts about the reliability of the information RT ? ... read:
                      The mother of a schoolboy from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, who spoke in the German Bundestag, Oksana Desyatnichenko, in an interview with RT, commented on her son’s speech.

                      According to her, they began to write a speech for the speech with their son in the summer, when it became known about the upcoming trip.

                      “But it turned out that the regulations require reduce speech to two minutes. The condition was to talk about German soldiers, and the son cut the speech himself, without my participation", Said Desyatnichenko.

                      She noted that "in the end there were only scraps."

                      “I myself am now scared to read what happened. I understand that he (son. - RT) did not understand that the meaning of speech has changed, ”she added.

                      She emphasized that her son "knows very well who won this war."

                      “My child is studying history and knows how priorities are set,” Desyatnichenko concluded.
                      ... and, here is the small chest, and here is the egg and the needle ... need further clarification ?! ... the boy was "played" at the last moment ... the condition is known the main thing ... wassat ... 2 minutes ... or how ... feel the European Freedom of Thought and the Wind of European Democracy? ... gave too much to intelligence, so as not to read the Dumb SCENARIO! ... STUPID, STUPID AND NOT PROFESSIONAL! ... tomorrow the media wave will subside ... Julia Vityazeva, Luca Brazi and others like them ... will quit laughing
                      P.S. ... in this case, as in 1941-1945 ... German intelligence was let down on a large scale ... GERMAN PRAGMATICITY AND CALCULATION! ... they do not know how without the Plan ... on what and FRAW! ... laughing
                      1. badens1111
                        badens1111 20 November 2017 22: 34 New
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                        Quote: Inok10
                        “My child is studying history and knows how priorities are set,” Desyatnichenko concluded.



                        Everyone chooses for themselves
                        woman, religion, road.
                        Serve the devil or the prophet -
                        everyone chooses for himself.

                        Everyone chooses by themselves
                        word for love and for prayer.
                        A sword for a duel, a sword for a battle
                        everyone chooses for himself.

                        Everyone chooses by themselves
                        shield and armor, staff and patches.
                        The measure of final reckoning
                        everyone chooses for himself.
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                      3. pvv113
                        pvv113 20 November 2017 22: 43 New
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                        I believe that the check there should not be carried out at the top, but almost with penetration into the Mesozoic layers wink
                      4. Inok10
                        Inok10 20 November 2017 22: 44 New
                        +5
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Everyone chooses for themselves
                        woman, religion, road.
                        Serve the devil or the prophet -
                        everyone chooses for himself.
                        Everyone chooses by themselves

                        ... so you chose ... do not judge and will not be judged ... you are not a prophet ... are you "rocking" the situation? ... after what I wrote above - Sisyphean work ... laughing laughing wassat
                        P.S. ... do not touch the Personality ... and, even more so, the Children of strangers, so that they would not discuss yours ... hi
                    2. Monos
                      Monos 20 November 2017 23: 38 New
                      +7
                      And to you, Vladimir, good! smile
                      Quote: pvv113
                      Survived - Bandera in Russia teach children history lessons

                      I would not dramatize: not every crest of Bandera and not every Bandera of crest. And from Muscovites some went to carbates.
                      1. pvv113
                        pvv113 20 November 2017 23: 54 New
                        +4
                        But in this case, after reading the article, I realized that not everything is so successful in Urengoy. Screenshots confirm this
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              4. DMB_95
                DMB_95 20 November 2017 16: 30 New
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                Quote: badens1111
                Judging by the long-standing photo, his dad works for him in Gazprom
                The stump is clear, which is not at the factory ....
                1. - = ANTRAX = -
                  - = ANTRAX = - 21 November 2017 11: 50 New
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                  in Rosneft and not in Gazprom.
              5. Slovak
                Slovak 20 November 2017 19: 32 New
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                Sent to Siberia! :)))
                1. Cetron
                  Cetron 21 November 2017 01: 25 New
                  +4
                  Yes, send back to dill. Mom just wants to live in Geymanii - she knows what her ancestors of Bandera fought for. Most of the banderlogs in N. Urengoy are there, it’s time to clean.
                  I answer the critics: my grandfather and grandmother, peaceful villagers, Russians from Latvia, the Nazis stole the Reich in 1942, they did not return. I had neither grandfather nor grandmother. This I will never forgive them, and bequeathed to my son, and grandchildren, and God will give - great-grandson.
                2. sogdy
                  sogdy 21 November 2017 06: 47 New
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                  Quote: Slovak
                  Sent to Siberia!

                  We don’t need these. Unless ITK.
        2. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 20 November 2017 15: 37 New
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          Naturally, this seditious text was not written by this juvenile boob. He has both educators and curators and parents. They are guilty of the clotted brains of this young pacifist. First of all, they must keep the answer!
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 21 November 2017 06: 52 New
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            Quote: x.andvlad
            this baby boob

            At 9 we became pioneers - with a burden of responsibility.
            In the 14th Criminal Code, he considered us fully capable with full responsibility.
            At 16-17 Onizhedeti? Are these adult horses? Maybe enough nonsense to flog.
      2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 20 November 2017 15: 21 New
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        It is necessary to check the Ministry of Education, as much as possible in the school curriculum to study the traitor of the Motherland, Solzhenitsyn.
      3. Mih1974
        Mih1974 20 November 2017 15: 27 New
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        It’s not to be checked there, but how to accept the Sicilian mafia - in the morning they should find him on a chair in front of the city hall dead with a mouth full of Evra and Deutschmarks. am
      4. Kent0001
        Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 41 New
        +9
        And then why is he the mayor? Why does such a person lead the city administration?
      5. IL-18
        IL-18 20 November 2017 17: 24 New
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        Quote: Nikolay S.
        The mayor of Novy Urengoy stood up for the schoolboy who pity the Wehrmacht soldier "

        Urgently remove from office until the population is killed.
      6. albert
        albert 20 November 2017 20: 48 New
        +9
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Tsey flop from Ukraine.

        That's right. Relatives of the bastard, some banderlogs. Here, borrowed from Politicus
      7. michey
        michey 21 November 2017 11: 03 New
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        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Tsey flop from Ukraine.

        7 Ukrainians fought in the ranks of the Red Army. Maybe you should not repeat the stupid Svidomoites, in whom all the fat Muscovites zily?
    2. 210ox
      210ox 20 November 2017 14: 29 New
      +9
      Why? In Germany, no. Yes, and here it is full who will accept him ..
      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..
      1. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 20 November 2017 16: 13 New
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        I cannot rule out the possibility that now the most Russophobic countries (Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, etc., and maybe Germany) will vying to offer asylum to this young pacifist and his family, and they will also start to inflate the scandal and the company for legal protection of these "miserable."
    3. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 20 November 2017 14: 30 New
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      Directors with isorik to expel !!! The SS men are poor, well, well ...
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 20 November 2017 15: 23 New
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        Thank you Kolya from Urengoy. I hope this photo will not be deleted by moderators.?
    4. sir_obs
      sir_obs 20 November 2017 14: 34 New
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      And flog it
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 20 November 2017 14: 50 New
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        Quote: sir_obs
        And flog it

        It's my pleasure. I think the guy himself did not understand what he had read. Most likely he was seduced by a trip abroad, and slipped a piece of paper before leaving. In general, the guy was framed in full, and his parents all the more.
        1. alekc75
          alekc75 20 November 2017 15: 05 New
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          do not understand you say ??? and how old is he ??? if he doesn’t understand anything now, then he’s a stupid person! and stupid people in ordinary schools do not study! he understood everything he learned so !!!!
          1. Kent0001
            Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 44 New
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            I support. At this age, it is time to understand the essence of things. Perhaps on May 9th he goes to a rally ..... or not?
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 20 November 2017 15: 05 New
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          Quote: SRC P-15
          He was most likely seduced by a trip abroad, and slipped a piece of paper before leaving
          Weeping over the unreasonable child? He, too, like the Nazi invaders, didn’t “want anything bad”, right?
          However, at his age, it’s time not only to add letters into words, but also to ponder the meaning of those words.
        3. Bolo
          Bolo 20 November 2017 15: 15 New
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          such as the same week as in Odessa? It is with these tenchenko maidans and pouring gasoline into Molotov cocktails! Grammar school to close, teachers a ban on work, fire firing!
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 20 November 2017 15: 49 New
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            Quote: Bolo
            such as the same week as in Odessa? It is with these tenchenko maidans and pouring gasoline into Molotov cocktails! Grammar school to close, teachers a ban on work, fire firing!

            And let's wait for him to return home, and then we will put all the dots on the “and”. Can you still give him the opportunity to speak, and then condemn him? The child is 14 years old !?
            1. Litvinov
              Litvinov 20 November 2017 16: 31 New
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              And let's leave him there! Let us recall once again Volodya Dubinin, Zina Portnov, Marat Kozey. and other guys who, at the same age, suffered a martyrdom from German goodies.
              1. Kent0001
                Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 47 New
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                Tough, but on the topic. I support. Need a set of books about pioneer heroes to republish for Victory Day. And to return the study of their feat and NAMES to the school program with passing the credit for such lobotryas and their parents !!!!!
                1. Litvinov
                  Litvinov 20 November 2017 17: 06 New
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                  I agree with you, colleague! I also consider it necessary to organize this Badman visit to Buchenwald, Mauthausen. Particular attention should be paid to the "Hunt for Hares" in the 1945 year.
                  1. IL-18
                    IL-18 20 November 2017 17: 34 New
                    +6
                    the boy has already taken the road. Let him study literature. namely books.
            2. sogdy
              sogdy 21 November 2017 06: 57 New
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              Quote: SRC P-15
              Can you still give him the opportunity to speak, and then condemn him? The child is 14 years old !?

              Sterosova club for 17 years. This is already growing up.
            3. michey
              michey 21 November 2017 11: 08 New
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              He has already spoken out. Maybe we will give him the opportunity to make Molotov cocktails as well as the ones he did in Kiev and Odessa ???
        4. Assyrian
          Assyrian 20 November 2017 18: 01 New
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          Watch the video of his performance. He clearly knew what he was selling and for how much.
          Hang the mayor in the square of Novy Urengoy. On the neck hang a sign "justifying the crimes of the Nazis."
          And do not shoot until spring, it’s cold there is well preserved.
        5. mole
          mole 20 November 2017 21: 04 New
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          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: sir_obs
          And flog it

          It's my pleasure. I think the guy himself did not understand what he had read. Most likely he was seduced by a trip abroad, and slipped a piece of paper before leaving. In general, the guy was framed in full, and his parents all the more.

          For unintentional plant too.
          And if they set it up, then what, and most importantly, who? taught this boob?
          A parallel suggests itself: “successful” managers are taught to be liberated, think outside the box, and therefore put forward “outside the box ideas”. So Malaya is trying to follow the trend. Torpedo.
        6. michey
          michey 21 November 2017 11: 04 New
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          Of course of course. To get numb. 16 years old - but like a kitten’s mind.
      2. faridg7
        faridg7 20 November 2017 16: 12 New
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        Quote: sir_obs
        And flog it

        That is, for the fact that on our behalf, he simply took and stood with the Nazis in a cube in the pose of sis just to flog? Yes, it is necessary that now he and his curators of asylum from the Swabians asked headlong
    5. starogil
      starogil 20 November 2017 14: 37 New
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      The boy is not to blame for the fact that he is so young and already a bastard.
      Mayor, gymnasium, Novy Urengoy, the estate of uncle moneybags, for all this, as for
      the reform of Fursenkov’s, as it were, education is the Jesuit figure of the Garant-werewolf.
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 20 November 2017 14: 38 New
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      The Alain Dulles Doctrine of the Soviet Union Liberals say, and not only that it does not exist. But why does it work
      "Having sowed chaos in Russia, we will quietly replace their values ​​with false ones ... We will find our like-minded people, our assistants and allies in Russia itself. Episode after episode will be played out the grandiose tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final extinction of their identity."
      http://slavs.org.ua/doktrina-alena-dallesa-rassyl
      ka-subscriberu-zakrytaya-istoriya-rusi-informatsi
      onnaya-voina-protiv-rossii-vypusk-130
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 20 November 2017 19: 29 New
        +2
        and so they lived in camp -5 476 camps of Degtyarsk, and here sat muggy from the SD!
    7. RASKAT
      RASKAT 20 November 2017 14: 39 New
      +2
      It seems to me that the kid is the future Stirlitz, we will expel him from the country now, the Germans will warm the victim of the bloody regime, and then he will merge the info from any Gestapo to us bully
      1. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 20 November 2017 15: 29 New
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        Such "Shtirlitsy" burned people in Odessa. If it were my will, I wouldn’t let it go further than brooms and shovels. Yes, and those who make them like that, also identified for planting. Away from parenting!
      2. Assyrian
        Assyrian 20 November 2017 22: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: RASKAT
        I think the kid is the future Stirlitz

        A couple more of these shtirlits and enemies is not necessary.
    8. Maz
      Maz 20 November 2017 14: 42 New
      +1
      Well done work well, Ukraine is an example to them
    9. svp67
      svp67 20 November 2017 14: 43 New
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      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..

      And then there are more questions. The young man did not speak from the heart, but read the text prepared in advance. And now questions, and who wrote it, who edited, who checked, who gave GOOD? So there will be one kipish .... For many, a career may roll downhill ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 20 November 2017 14: 48 New
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        Quote: svp67
        For many, a career may roll downhill ...

        "Then piss off..."
        This kid needs to be brought to Auschwitz. Yes, settle there for a couple of weeks, playing the role-playing game "The whole family on vacation in Auschwitz."
        1. svp67
          svp67 20 November 2017 14: 59 New
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          Quote: stalkerwalker
          This kid needs to be brought to Auschwitz. Yes, settle there for a couple of weeks, playing the role-playing game "The whole family on vacation in Auschwitz."

          You know, I would have given him a tour of the military graves of Soviet soldiers in the European part ... that he would have understood a little, the extent of the losses. We have a lot of these kind of boys. EVEN DEFINITIONS do not have about those graves, because they live in the part where they simply do not exist, but for that there are a lot of former prisoners' graves and many repressed memorials, with appropriate guides and mentors. To Volgograd, Voronezh, Rostov ... yes, to any place where there were fights, where that war swept a lead storm, and not to Kopeisk, near Chelyabinsk, where there were prisoner camps, this is where children should be taken every year. This is what our Ministry of Youth Affairs should take care of, and not sit out of our pants. Why is IT AT ALL necessary? Why is money spent on it, if few people know about its existence, and on the way out we have these "boys"
          1. Bolo
            Bolo 20 November 2017 15: 24 New
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            and bring this undergrowth to us, to Belarus, to the Khatyn memorial, to the Memorial in the village of Krasny Bereg

            Memorial in the village of Krasny Bereg The only memorial in the world dedicated to children - victims of World War II, is located in the village of Krasny Bereg. In 1943, the Nazis set up a camp here, where, in the most cruel, inhuman ways, blood was pumped out of children for the hospitals of the Nazi army. In the 1990st century, a memorial appeared at the site of the death of 21, the project of which architects worked under the direction of the author of the Khatyn complex Leonid Levin. At the entrance, visitors are greeted by a bronze figure of a girl with arms crossed. Alleys of rays diverge from the Sun’s square, one of which, the “Ray of Remembrance”, crosses an empty classroom, where there are only XNUMX white desks and a black board with a letter from the prisoner Katya Susanina to her father. Against the background of stained-glass windows with touching drawings, the symbol of unfulfilled childhood hopes is set - "Paper Boat" ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 20 November 2017 15: 31 New
              +8
              Quote: Bolo
              and bring this undergrowth to us, to Belarus, to the Khatyn memorial, to the Memorial in the village of Krasny Bereg

              It is very necessary to carry children to these places and not to hide anything. Tell and show all the details. And it’s not only in heroic Belarus there are many such sad places, Bryansk, Smolensk .... they are all in “bonfires” ... in every village in the same village there is a memorial shot by punishers.
            2. weksha50
              weksha50 20 November 2017 21: 08 New
              +4
              Quote: Bolo
              in the village of Red Beach. In 1943, the Nazis set up a camp here, where, in the most cruel, inhuman ways, blood was pumped out of children for the hospitals of the Nazi army.


              It was similar in the Baltic ... Salaspils ...
              1. Cetron
                Cetron 21 November 2017 01: 33 New
                +2
                Our Natsiks called Salaspils educational institution am
                1. weksha50
                  weksha50 21 November 2017 21: 10 New
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                  Quote: Cetron
                  Our Natsiks called Salaspils educational institution


                  But for neo-Nazis, Salaspils-2 is needed ... "Educational institution" ...
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 50 New
          +8
          Fill the number on your hand and feed it with slop, make it work and live in unsanitary conditions, so that you are finally imbued with these .... who did not want to fight. D.B.
          1. Litvinov
            Litvinov 20 November 2017 17: 11 New
            +4
            Quote: Kent0001
            Fill the number on your hand and feed it with slop, make it work and live in unsanitary conditions, so that you are finally imbued with these .... who did not want to fight. D.B.

            And pump blood ....
        3. alstr
          alstr 20 November 2017 17: 40 New
          +8
          He must be given letters to read ordinary German soldiers for 41 g.
          It was they who later began to write that they were tired of fighting, and in 41 they very much did not mind fighting, and then they received land in the new territory.
          But it didn’t happen: Who was captured, and who lay down in the ground.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 20 November 2017 14: 52 New
        +5
        svp67
        who checked who gave GOOD? So there will be one kipish .... For many, a career may roll downhill ...
        Colleague! hi I am writing about this. Now the times are such that villains need to be expected from anywhere.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 November 2017 15: 22 New
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        Quote: svp67
        The young man did not speak from the heart, but read the text prepared in advance.

        This young man from the place of the military Glory of his great-grandfather spat at his grave and didn’t even understand it himself.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 53 New
          +7
          And you know, judging by the name of the boy, it is not a fact that his great-grandfather AGAINST those whom he justified fought. MAYBE TIME AND THE BURNING .... look how much this evil spirits appeared in (on) the ruin, and during the times of the Union it also spread across the RSFSR .....
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 20 November 2017 21: 12 New
            +5
            Quote: Kent0001
            judging by the name of the boy, it is not a fact that his great-grandfather AGAINST those whom he justified fought. MAYBE TIME AND THE BURNING .... look how much this evil spirits appeared in (on) the ruin, and during the times of the Union it also spread across the RSFSR .....


            Hmm ... Stupidly ... I also have a surname ending with "ko" ... And all my life the nationality "Russian" was written in all the documents, and I feel, and feel now - Russian ...
            And how many people in / in the same Ukraine NOW with true Russian names and surnames, but who are the brightest Russophobes?
            So we, by first and last name, can arrange such a massacre that we overwhelm the previous one ...
          2. michey
            michey 21 November 2017 11: 12 New
            +1
            Lelyushenko, Fishing-also fought there?
            Nonsense enough to carry.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 20 November 2017 17: 07 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          This young man from the place of the military Glory of his great-grandfather spat at his grave and didn’t even understand it himself.

          I am tormented by vague doubts - on which side of the front line the Evonian ancestors fought ..
          Greetings, Andrey ...
          hi
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 November 2017 17: 43 New
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            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Greetings, Andrey ...

            Welcome. hi
            This imbitsil “excellent student” reads what he wrote a very cunning and thoughtful desman who hid behind this kid.
            And everything is very thoughtful then ... Berlin, the Bundestag and such speeches from a Russian pupil-excellent student.
            For this, Vasiliev needs to be driven out of work by a filthy broom, as this is nothing but a DIVERSION!
            1. Assyrian
              Assyrian 21 November 2017 12: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              it is nothing but a DIVERSION!

              IDEOLOGICAL DIVERSION.
              In his speech, he regrets: about the difficult conditions of detention, about the untidy grave. He calls the battle of Stalingrad "the so-called Stalingrad boiler" i.e. questioning the rout or belittling the environment of the Paulus faction.
              In general, there are such tricky twists ...... with a central message - we apologize to you.
              Therefore, such a disturbance in the internet. A gymnasium student with those standing behind him (gymnasium, mayor-Komsomol, grandmother memorial, dad’s Gazprom Kentes) spat in the memory of the people. And they wonder why they were so outraged. They try to replace the concepts of mercy (for prisoners of war) with hatred for the conquerors.
      4. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 20 November 2017 15: 45 New
        +7
        Quote: svp67
        The young man did not speak from the heart, but read the text prepared in advance. Now questions, but who wrote it,

        The young man claims that SAM! Verbatim:
        "... I’ve been fond of the history and culture of both my country and Germany since childhood. I immediately started looking for relevant information - first I visited the city archive (it remains unclear how this "young historian" in the archive (wait a minute!) of New Urengoy, founded in 1975, found references to German prisoners of war?) and a library. Then he tried to find the stories of German soldiers on the Internet and other sources, "Etc.
        Dare you say that the boy is brazenly lying in the face of such a respected audience?
        1. svp67
          svp67 20 November 2017 16: 36 New
          +5
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Dare to claim

          Yes. Since it is simply impossible not to get to such institutions as the archive, let alone get acquainted with documents that contain personal information. I know this firsthand. They have pretty strict with that there right now. Not only that, in our archive, the very same “boy” was not given the “Case” of his great-grandfather, so as not to injure the not-stronger psyche with information about betrayal. The boy then knew only about the heroism of his grandfather and nothing about his fall after captivity.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 20 November 2017 17: 47 New
            +4
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Dare to claim
            Quote: svp67
            Yes
            It was sarcasm, if hi
          2. michey
            michey 21 November 2017 11: 13 New
            0
            Malchik understood very well that he was reading
      5. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 20 November 2017 18: 54 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        And now questions, and who wrote it, who edited, who checked, who gave GOOD?

        The mother of a schoolboy from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous District commented on her son’s performance in the Bundestag
        https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/451224-mat-shk
        olnik-yanao-bungestag
        The mother of a schoolboy from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, who spoke in the German Bundestag, Oksana Desyatnichenko, in an interview with RT, commented on her son’s speech.
        According to her, they began to write a speech for the speech with their son in the summer, when it became known about the upcoming trip.

        “But it turned out that the regulation requires reducing speech to two minutes. The condition was to talk about the German soldiers, and the son cut the speech himself, without my participation, ”Desyatnichenko said.

        She noted that "in the end there were only scraps."
        etc.
        nu-nu sad
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 20 November 2017 19: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: Dryuya2
          The mother of a schoolboy from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous District commented on her son’s performance in the Bundestag

          In addition to the comments, all the work had to be laid out without abbreviations. Then the whole idea of ​​this study would become clear.
          1. Assyrian
            Assyrian 21 November 2017 13: 04 New
            0
            German teacher posted the text. There it is. (and there’s a video by the way) He apologized for the poor maintenance in the camps and not the well-groomed graves.
      6. michey
        michey 21 November 2017 11: 09 New
        0
        He did not understand what he was reading?
    10. Dead duck
      Dead duck 20 November 2017 14: 44 New
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      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed without starting.

      Heh, if he realizes that he has read and will "bend" in the same direction ..
      it’s just just beginning ...
      will be studying "abroad", will receive grants, etc., etc.
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    12. Orel
      Orel 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..


      His opinion is more than controversial, especially regarding the "innocence" of the enemy soldiers, but because of this, another serious problem remained behind the scenes: groomed German graves in the same Kopeisk. It is clear that these are soldiers of the enemy army, but throwing such places at least does not paint. Especially in a situation where in the same Germany, the USSR is watched and maintained in order for the military graves of the USSR. I think we need to take the same care. The ax of war must be buried, not dug up again and again.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 20 November 2017 15: 27 New
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        It is clear that these are soldiers of the enemy army, but throwing such places at least does not paint.

        But I am against. These dead guys came to our land to kill, rob and enslave. Who understood everything - they went to anti-fascist detachments or simply surrendered. Here they need to erect monuments, they took risks and realized their mistake. The rest are in oblivion.
        Especially in a situation where in the same Germany, the USSR is watched and maintained in order for the military graves of the USSR.

        Let us nevertheless divide the graves of the fascist soldiers who came to conquer / destroy us and the Soviet soldiers crushed this creation of Hitler in their den. By the way, the Germans also participated in this on our side as well.
        1. Orel
          Orel 20 November 2017 15: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Wedmak
          Let us nevertheless divide the graves of the fascist soldiers who came to conquer / destroy us and the Soviet soldiers crushed this creation of Hitler in their den. By the way, the Germans also participated in this on our side as well.


          Here everyone has their own opinion. For me, the war is over. And for you?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 20 November 2017 16: 18 New
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            And for you?

            What kind of war? Nazism was defeated, Hitler was killed - yes. But about the memory of those who did this - no.
            They are still raising our soldiers from nameless graves. Every year hundreds of remains are found.
            And those who wrote this text, apparently already forgot about 26 million victims. And I do not understand why I should be concerned about the condition of the graves of the invaders. And I don’t understand why, in the German Bundestag, the Russian gymnasium, reading on a piece of paper, calls the dead Wehrmacht soldiers captured - innocently killed.
            1. Orel
              Orel 20 November 2017 17: 47 New
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              And I do not understand why I should be concerned about the condition of the graves of the invaders.


              If you ever understand this, then you will understand much more and the world will appear in a completely different light. About the "country in the ring of enemies" you will immediately forget. Trust me. The world has already changed a long time ago and it is not at all as hostile as it seems to many and as many here believe.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 20 November 2017 18: 04 New
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                The world has long since changed and it is not so hostile

                Yes, yes ... That's just the main peacekeeper of more than 800 military bases around the world. And the world is still rushing from Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria ... where the boot of the NATO peaceful soldiers walked. Most likely, I must believe the peaceful purpose of pulling heavy weapons into Europe and installing a missile defense system along the perimeter of Russia's borders.
                I haven’t even called 1 / 8 all the exploits of a peacemaker.
                1. Orel
                  Orel 20 November 2017 18: 08 New
                  0
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  Yes, yes ... That's just the main peacekeeper of more than 800 military bases around the world. And the world is still rushing from Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria ... where the boot of the NATO peaceful soldiers walked. Most likely, I must believe the peaceful purpose of pulling heavy weapons into Europe and installing a missile defense system along the perimeter of Russia's borders.


                  You are apparently new to history, for what is happening in our time is just flowers, compared to what happened in the past. War is becoming more and more rare, and global war is no longer possible at all, since everyone is too connected and intertwined, but you have a different reality. I will not argue. You are free to believe what you want.
                  1. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 20 November 2017 18: 43 New
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                    You are apparently new to history, for what is happening in our time is just flowers, compared to what happened in the past.

                    Tell the Libyans, Iraqis and Syrians about the flowers, thanks to US benefactors plunged into the Stone Age. At the same time, look carefully who benefits from this chaos.
                    but you have a different reality

                    Yeah ... that’s all that I brought above seems and seems to me.
                    Essentially there will be facts of a non-hostile world? At least an example of where, when and how the United States or NATO countries brought peace and prosperity.
                    1. Orel
                      Orel 20 November 2017 21: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      Tell the Libyans, Iraqis and Syrians about the flowers, thanks to US benefactors plunged into the Stone Age. At the same time, look carefully who benefits from this chaos.


                      You are incorrigible, although with such a red-hot head as yours it is difficult to reason objectively. Therefore, I understand you. And I am not at all surprised that you remained with your opinion, but with your own.
                    2. Orel
                      Orel 20 November 2017 21: 40 New
                      0
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      Essentially there will be facts of a non-hostile world? At least an example of where, when and how the United States or NATO countries brought peace and prosperity.


                      Any number of examples. Germany, France, Italy, Greece, and almost all of Western Europe, plus Japan, after World War II, South Korea after the Korean War. In many regions, military bases provide security, for example, in Djibouti. But in general, where there are US bases, there is generally peace. The only exceptions are Iraq and Afghanistan, but that is a different story. The military is not always evil. And this concerns not only Americans, but also us. Our bases are military according to the same principle as the American ones. Provide stability and safety.
                      1. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 21 November 2017 08: 03 New
                        +2
                        But in general, where there are US bases, there is generally peace.

                        Come on? Only now you have forgotten about one small thing - all these countries are either NATO members or are direct vassals of the United States, depending on the Americans in almost everything. And there it is the United States that sets its laws.
                        And this concerns not only Americans, but also us.

                        In you compared. How many bases do we have? Tartus is not a base, it is an MTO point. Khmeimim was formed recently. If you count with the radar and the spaceport in Kazakhstan, then all 9 military facilities abroad. Nine!!!! And all in close proximity to our borders.
                        Tell me why the US base in Japan and Korea? Why are they in the Middle East? How can you even call our time peaceful and calm? Why did the US plan a base in Crimea? Why are they deploying a base in Ochakovo? Something is not visible stability and peace in Ukraine when the United States entered there with its advice and goals.
                  2. weksha50
                    weksha50 20 November 2017 21: 18 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Orel
                    War is becoming more and more rare, and global war is no longer possible at all, since everyone is too connected and intertwined,


                    Oh my God ! What i hear It turns out that we live in a wonderful time when a person is a friend to a friend, comrade and brother ??? Communism Or - paradise ??? lol
                    1. Orel
                      Orel 20 November 2017 21: 35 New
                      0
                      Quote: weksha50
                      Oh my God ! What i hear It turns out that we live in a wonderful time when a person is a friend to a friend, comrade and brother ??? Communism Or - paradise ???


                      Globalization. The more countries connected, the less cause for conflict. It is much more profitable to trade, work and negotiate than to fight. I am revealing to you such simple truths, as if you are not familiar with the history of human civilization and are not able to consider how much more humane and safe the world has become even over the past 100 years. Repeat the story, sometimes it teaches something;)
                      1. weksha50
                        weksha50 20 November 2017 22: 29 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Orel
                        Globalization. The more countries connected, the less cause for conflict. It is much more profitable to trade, work and negotiate than to fight. I am revealing to you such simple truths, as if you are not familiar with the history of human civilization and are not able to consider how much more humane and safe the world has become even over the past 100 years. Repeat the story, sometimes it teaches something;)


                        Um ... This moralizing need not be read to me ... But, say, to Trump - first of all ... Well, to many other major political figures ...

                        What am I? A simple ordinary citizen ... And from whether I understand the holy canons of globalization or not, the situation will not change ...

                        By the way, you feel a modern education in you ... If not HSE, then something like ...

                        Globalization ... Well this is necessary - they gave me a lecture on the fact that, then, it turns out, there should already be no wars ... recourse
              2. zoolu350
                zoolu350 21 November 2017 05: 53 New
                +3
                Quote: Orel
                About the "country in the ring of enemies" you will immediately forget. Trust me. The world has already changed a long time ago and it is not at all as hostile as it seems to many and as many here believe.

                Yeah, fortune, you just have to abandon the nuclear weapons and again, as in 1941, we will see the "dear" citizens of the Euroreich with exactly the same goals on our land. Nothing has changed, it only got worse.
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 56 New
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            Ended up how? Equalizing the Nazis and Soviet Soldiers, equating the monsters-invaders with the liberators of the Native EARTH, or do I not understand something?
          3. ARES623
            ARES623 20 November 2017 19: 58 New
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            Quote: Orel
            For me, the war is over. And for you?

            Europe is the birthplace of Nazism. Today, like yesterday, like 70 years ago, Nazism lives and even flourishes. Yes, the German Wehrmacht was defeated, about 70 of the 10 million inhabitants of Germany died in the war. But the rest were alive and thought the same way as under Hitler, but also with a thirst for revenge. And all of Europe together with them, and not only Europe .... And those who think that the war ended in 1945, make up the target audience for such reports.
      2. Dead duck
        Dead duck 20 November 2017 16: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: Orel
        Especially in a situation where in the same Germany, the USSR is watched and maintained in order for the military graves of the USSR.

        Taki, were at one time an agreement on this subject.
        They are ours, we are theirs.
        Perhaps the message of the “epic” was supposed to be that once again everyone “threw” us ...
        but someone remade everything "quietly" ... request
      3. Assyrian
        Assyrian 21 November 2017 13: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Orel
        groomed German graves in the same Kopeisk

        Of course. Not forgetting your own monuments in our territory.
        Quote: Orel
        The ax of war must be buried, not dug up again and again.

        And an ax is needed to chop off the trailing dirty hands. As soon as you bury, the house of unsolicited guests is full, "they were forced", "they didn’t voluntarily" pressed against me.
        Yandey buried tomahawk, and where are they?
    13. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 November 2017 15: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed without starting.
      Thank you, made fun. Now is not the USSR. And in the past, very many quite consciously spit, trashing Soviet times and even the Great Victory. And no one paid for this career.
    14. mad
      mad 20 November 2017 16: 09 New
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      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed without starting.

      Okay, they’ll take to Oval to run errands, promising Judas ...
    15. Santa114
      Santa114 20 November 2017 16: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..

      HAHA (((say the career collapsed ..... Nowadays, it's quite the opposite ....
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 20 November 2017 19: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Santa114
        HAHA (((say the career collapsed ..... Nowadays, it's quite the opposite ....

        HYIP caught on full screen TV .... wassat
    16. alekc73
      alekc73 20 November 2017 18: 55 New
      +4
      Victim of the exam. In the head porridge. It cannot make logical chains from the received information. An ideal consumer.
    17. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 20 November 2017 19: 36 New
      +3
      This is the result of the Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg
    18. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 20 November 2017 20: 09 New
      +3
      yeah schazzzz. Collapsed. Recover - this is the point of view of our "illite". YES, such an open kiss in the ass from the fellow was meaningless. But consistent in the "development" of our state.
    19. Orionvit
      Orionvit 20 November 2017 20: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before starting

      Do not rush, maybe a career is just beginning. The hosts from overseas, promising the boy a lot, probably already looked. Or the "laurels" of Navalny and Sobchak, the boy is prevented from sleeping. Get a job on the "matzo of Moscow", you look, and the "career" trample. A look at a career, everyone has a different one.
    20. Operator
      Operator 20 November 2017 22: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      Who are your parents Desyatnichenko?

      The father of the Novy Urengoy juvenile Bandera is the head of the economic security service of the local Rosneft - i.e. he is from the "sleeping".
    21. Vasya Vasiliev
      Vasya Vasiliev 21 November 2017 00: 17 New
      +3
      Yes, he is now the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!))) I went to his page in VK comments the people write him heartily!))) it's time to go back to Aunt Merkel for a lollipop!)))
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 20 November 2017 14: 28 New
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    Not only the school curriculum should be checked, but also what the parents of the children teach in the family
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 20 November 2017 14: 34 New
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      Hello Volodya! hi The fish rots from the head - it will definitely not be superfluous to filter the family. I previously spoke about the great-grandfather-electrician.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 20 November 2017 14: 37 New
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        Hi Maxim! Children, even the weak-minded, repeat what they say at home. And the theme of the great-grandfather, a policeman who sympathized with the captive fascists, is a very believable version
        1. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
          +8
          It is unlikely that a speech was being prepared at home! Rather, the attendants tried ...
        2. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 20 November 2017 15: 32 New
          +9
          Quote: pvv113
          Children, even the weak-minded, repeat what they say at home.

          and at the gymnasium, and the text was prepared for him exactly at the gymnasium, or at least edited
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 20 November 2017 17: 13 New
            +7
            I agree, and what they say in the gymnasium. And the speech could have been concocted in the gymnasium, and, as Comrade Zhelezyakin said above, "the companions tried .."
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 20 November 2017 17: 32 New
              +8
              Quote: pvv113
              "attendants tried .."

              that’s why we should start with the head of the delegation and accompanying persons
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 20 November 2017 17: 34 New
                10
                In any case, the check must be done in full - from head to tail
                1. Angel_and_Demon
                  Angel_and_Demon 20 November 2017 17: 36 New
                  +8
                  or, if it weren’t so cruel, chop off the tail, right to the head
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 20 November 2017 18: 30 New
                    +3
                    And then whom to check? lol
                    1. weksha50
                      weksha50 20 November 2017 21: 23 New
                      +2
                      Quote: pvv113
                      And then whom to check?


                      Duc ... the whole point is this ... If the ass is chopped off by the very head, then there will be no such sabotage ... laughing
                2. Assyrian
                  Assyrian 21 November 2017 13: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: pvv113
                  In any case, the check must be done in full - from head to tail

                  Let me in interrogation am angry
                  1. weksha50
                    weksha50 21 November 2017 21: 14 New
                    0
                    Quote: Assyrian
                    Let me in interrogation


                    There is already a turn - from Moscow to the very outskirts ... laughing
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 20 November 2017 16: 57 New
      +1
      Look at the surname, everything is possible ..... although I can be wrong, I will only be glad about it.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 20 November 2017 23: 58 New
        +1
        Partly your truth. See the article at the link
        http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/101757-situaciya-s-u
        rengoyskim-shkolnikom-prinimaet-interesnyy-povoro
        t.html
  3. solzh
    solzh 20 November 2017 14: 29 New
    +4
    Check, punish the guilty. AND? It was necessary to be engaged in education earlier. Although maybe now the reform of education will move for the better.
    1. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 20 November 2017 20: 12 New
      +2
      No, it will not move. Will be worse.
      Derived from the economy - the lad personifies it. No wonder it is consistent and logical.
  4. 32363
    32363 20 November 2017 14: 29 New
    +5
    they had already pecked it, although the kid was reading a piece of paper, there have been a lot of punctures lately, the video from igruha as evidence of the Russian Defense Ministry shows that the Wehrmacht soldiers on May 9 in different cities of the Russian Federation hang out
  5. 210ox
    210ox 20 November 2017 14: 30 New
    13
    It is necessary to transmigrate not one gymnasium .. And all our education ..
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 20 November 2017 14: 31 New
    +9
    Do not check-it was necessary to learn how to, and not on the Internet and comics! Throughout the country there are such "pokes", somn, and all because they buried the best education in the world -Soviet! !!! fool
  7. SOF
    SOF 20 November 2017 14: 32 New
    0
    ... well ... And then in the topic earlier, an OFFICIAL KIPESH deployed, well-wishers of Russia. And the "fish" rotting from the head has already been found ...................
  8. PROXOR
    PROXOR 20 November 2017 14: 35 New
    17
    Mayor and headmaster of a uranium mine. The teachers of all under investigation. Sibling with parents in Magadan. To cover all the rest, exit from the country to close. Prohibit holding at least some kind of position. Let them be maximum wipers.
    1. novel66
      novel66 20 November 2017 14: 43 New
      15
      you need to shoot someone
      1. Sauron80
        Sauron80 20 November 2017 15: 03 New
        +4
        So first to the wipers, then to the mines, and there already shoot))
        1. Smog
          Smog 20 November 2017 15: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Sauron80
          So first to the wipers, then to the mines, and there already shoot))

          Better at the same time.
    2. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 20 November 2017 15: 16 New
      +2
      And so that the handle on the broomstick was broken, the whole thing to entrust to such would be the height of stupidity!
  9. SOF
    SOF 20 November 2017 14: 38 New
    18
    Well, Kassad spoke on this subject:
    "There is no problem keeping the graves in order.
    There are no problems to maintain diplomatic, commercial, cultural and other relations with the countries with which we once fought and which once won.
    All wars end sooner or later and peace comes. Until the next war.
    But the lessons and results of past wars serve as a reminder of what awaits those who wish to conquer our country.
    And the main lesson that Russia should not be embarrassed to find is always the opportunity to provide the “external suffering” to the external aggressor, both on its territory and in his home, so that the next time he thinks about an attack on Russia, he thinks three times about the benefits of pacifism and the dangers of aggressive plans against Russia. And already with this understanding, one can speculate about world peace. "
    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3819589.htm
    l # cutid1
  10. midshipman
    midshipman 20 November 2017 14: 43 New
    26
    The Nazis fought on our land with frenzy. It was at the beginning of the war that our political workers believed that German soldiers would not fight against the Russian workers. But Hitler’s propaganda made monsters of them for 8 years. This awaits us with the soldiers from Ukraine. Advocacy and the media in Ukraine have done their job. My friends of the military, who fought during the Second World War, did not capture the Nazis, they were destroyed. My father died on December 27, 1941 on the Leningrad Front. I would also not have captured a single fascist, even if he had surrendered. I myself had to participate in three operations (1972, 1986 and 1987).
    The boy had to be prepared to perform differently. From the standpoint of the Germans no one called in the USSR. I have the honor.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 20 November 2017 14: 48 New
      22
      The Nazis fought on our land with frenzy.

      I agree with you ... they are the killers of our people ... our grandfathers and grandmothers ... will remain such in the memory of our people.

      This stupid kid Desyatnichenko needs to be shown what a real war is ... he doesn't know that ...


      These Germans are not like innocent lambs.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 20 November 2017 21: 28 New
        +7
        Quote: The same Lech
        This stupid kid Desyatnichenko needs to be shown what a real war is ... he doesn't know that ...


        Take and forcefully watch the film "Ordinary Fascism" ... Or - the Belarusian film "Go and See" ...
        There were many (yes they still are) good, educational and patriotic films about the Second World War ...
        And now the youth is watching ... I don’t have such a word so that the moderators do not ban ... there is such an island in Asia - Muynia ... so I mean - an island ... hi
    2. creak
      creak 20 November 2017 15: 20 New
      0
      Quote: midshipman
      I myself had to participate in three operations (1972 g, 1986 g and 1987 g).

      Is it when you and the minister planted a burdock on a lawn in Switzerland, where it was disgusting from cleanliness and order, is there nowhere to spit? Of course, the operation was serious with a risk to life ... Such an operation is equivalent to clearing the terrain .... This heartbreaking picture did not impress only me....
      We must still take care of ourselves and not risk in vain ....
      1. midshipman
        midshipman 20 November 2017 18: 35 New
        +7
        Mr. ranger, I will give you reports on these operations, in which I had to participate by Government Decision. There will be time to read my articles in "IN":
        - creative business trip (war in Egypt);
        - secret war and a special task (war in Angola);
        - The objective is to increase the accuracy of missile bomb strikes (Afghanistan).
        And in order for you to smile, there will be time to tell how I had to in Malaysia (on a deserted beach to swim among water snakes). An unusual case. I have the honor.
    3. Mik13
      Mik13 20 November 2017 16: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: midshipman
      It was at the beginning of the war that our political workers believed that German soldiers would not fight against the Russian workers. But Hitler’s propaganda over the 8 years made them monsters.

      Yes. just before that, in the 1940 year, the USSR issued to Germany from something around 500 (according to one source) to 2000 (according to other sources) of the German Communists who were hiding in the USSR from our National Socialist partners in the political process. And family members - also issued. Until 1945, of these people, few survived.
      In the USSR (and now in Russia) this story is extremely unpopular - for obvious reasons. But in 1940, German propaganda made this show a colorful demonstration show. And after that, any German proletarian (tm) remembered for sure that for the USSR he was first and foremost a German, and only then everything else - a class fraternity there all and other internationalism.

      So the next time you want to tell you about the German working class and short-sighted political officers - remember this story too. To avoid.
  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 20 November 2017 14: 44 New
    +6
    As often happens, we are struggling with the investigation, not the cause
  12. novel66
    novel66 20 November 2017 14: 45 New
    23
    the poor German proletarians, who accidentally reached the Volga, did not expect such an attitude towards themselves.
  13. Azazelo
    Azazelo 20 November 2017 14: 45 New
    12
    The dude is obviously dumb if he does not understand what such statements will pour out for him.
    Well, if they quickly forget about him and do not beat every day at the entrance.
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 20 November 2017 15: 36 New
      11
      They will, otherwise in this gymnasium all the boys will be ch_m_o_shnikami in practice. In the 7th grade I myself read the book "Ordinary Fascism" and was out of touch with text and photos. And in 2001, he physically reached representatives of fascist lovers. The caught were crammed into a garbage bin ... with a sense of accomplishment. My grandfather killed, alone, the entire tank crew of the Hans, for which he was awarded a medal for bravery. He finished off the driver’s mechanic at his “workplace”, with his right leg already inoperative, which was then amputated to his knee. I myself am GERMAN in spirit, but I can’t digest the cannibals of Natsik and fascists.
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 21 November 2017 06: 10 New
      +1
      In vain you underestimate him. He has done what most modern youth strives for - to "light up" for the most part at all costs. In addition, his speech, a certain message to the forces like Navalny, Ksyushadi, banderlog, etc., something like: "I am yours, take me to your party and a beautiful life."
  14. Nemesis
    Nemesis 20 November 2017 14: 45 New
    +6
    You need to check the legality of the presence of Russian citizenship in this Bandera.
    1. Methane
      Methane 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
      +8
      Dismantled democracy ... mother-mate? State Duma, ministries, Rights
      cooperation
      , universities, media, etc ... But what a sin to conceal, AP and myself ... From everywhere, liberalism and the 5th column rush insolently. Jump to the Maidan ... You’ll disappear, and we will destroy us! Greetings from Donetsk ...
    2. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 20 November 2017 15: 14 New
      +1
      And the whole lousy little family.
  15. NKVD
    NKVD 20 November 2017 14: 48 New
    +5
    And what effect did you expect not from a single education but from a variable one? What should be expected from children who are taught the Gulag Archipelago?
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  17. NEXUS
    NEXUS 20 November 2017 14: 57 New
    14
    Everything, as usual: they started checking after the incident showed itself, and in this case it also showed up on the international stage

    Until the roasted rooster pecks ... There, not only the gymnasium must be shaken and fired both the director and the history teacher, but also the mayor and the governor must thoroughly check what they are doing.
    And of course, many questions arose personally to Olga Vasilyeva, who is the Minister of Education.
    WHAT DO WE UNDERSTAND MISS OLGA VASILIEVA? Maybe you don’t have a place in this post, since you work so stupidly?
  18. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 20 November 2017 15: 00 New
    +8
    The head of the administration of Novy Urengoy, Ivan Kostogriz, decided to stand up for the student at the local gymnasium ...

    Since the 90s, they have diligently “reformed” school education, textbooks were written for Western grants, pseudo-historical seminars, discussions, etc. were held. - this is a disappointing result sad
  19. Garrin
    Garrin 20 November 2017 15: 03 New
    15
    It would have been nice to show Romm’s “Ordinary Fascism” schools at least once a quarter to show and introduce them into the school curriculum.
    1. novel66
      novel66 20 November 2017 15: 05 New
      +6
      By the way, yes. opportunities allow, and not only this film, in history lessons
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 November 2017 15: 35 New
      14
      What for?! There are also "Burnt by the Sun: Ahead", "Stalingrad" and "Bastards". The viewer is explained in an accessible form that the damned NKVD officers and sadistic political officers under the machine gun made Soviet citizens fight against progressive Europe in the person of the Third Reich, which came to sow peace and happiness to unreasonable Soviet barbarians.
  20. Juborg
    Juborg 20 November 2017 15: 06 New
    20
    Wehrmacht soldiers, they died, but did not die! Who called them to kill on our earth? Inspections should begin with this mayor, in my opinion, and then all schools and gymnasiums.
  21. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
    +6
    And is this ignorance still trying to make excuses? Guided by common sense? To the wall is a stinky louse!
  22. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 20 November 2017 15: 17 New
    +3
    It’s just that this fellow, having roots and genetics, didn’t want to offend anyone, what can you do, they love to miss promises with droplets ... Or maybe zrad ?!
  23. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 20 November 2017 15: 18 New
    +9
    Gymnasium in the YNAO will check after the scandalous performance of schoolchildren in the Bundestag

    Why check it out? He simply quoted Putin almost verbatim:

    MOSCOW, April 30 - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke in a column of the Russian Pioneer magazine about the recollections of the father and mother who fought during World War II and how miraculously they survived, but They did not feel hatred for the German soldiers, because they were hostages of circumstances whom they drove to the front.

    My mother generally had a very soft, kind person ... And she said: "Well, what hatred can be for these soldiers? They are ordinary people and also perished in the war.".
    And I remembered her words very well: "Well, what to take from them? They are the same hard workers as we are. They just drove them to the front."- the Russian leader shared his memories.

    RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/society/20150430/1061653827.html
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 20 November 2017 15: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Young_Communist
      Why check here - he just quoted almost literally Putin:

      Konstantin, judging by the word almost, You yourself are not sure of your innocence.
      However, continue in the same vein, I wonder how far you can go in pulling an owl on the globe. yes
      1. Young_Communist
        Young_Communist 20 November 2017 15: 41 New
        +5
        "they did not hate the German soldiers, because they were hostages of circumstances whom they drove to the front"

        "Well, what hatred can be for these soldiers? They are ordinary people and also perished in the war."

        "Well, what to take from them? They are the same hard workers as we are. They just drove them to the front."


        Essentially have something to say? Would you like to initiate a test of this "scandalous" statement?
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 20 November 2017 16: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Young_Communist
          Essentially have something to say?

          Of course there is, in your hostility to the President of the Russian Federation (this is your own business) you wandered into the jungle of complex analogies and the further you go into them, the more absurd your conclusions will sound.
          Quote: Young_Communist
          Would you like to initiate a test of this "scandalous" statement?

          No, I don’t want it, because I won’t go against my own grandmother, who shared with me stories about the occupation - she did not hate the German soldiers! But she never said anything about the “innocent Wehrmacht soldiers” ‍! Catch the difference? hi
          1. Flatter
            Flatter 20 November 2017 17: 27 New
            11
            If S Ivanov and V Medinsky installed a memorial plaque in honor of Mannerheim in St. Petersburg, then there is nothing to be surprised.
          2. Young_Communist
            Young_Communist 20 November 2017 17: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: Dym71
            No, I don’t wish, because

            Maybe just a small intestine? After all, one thing is to bull the Internet on some schoolboy framed by a fifth column, and it’s completely different to show the same to the Guarantor.
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 20 November 2017 18: 33 New
              0
              Quote: Young_Communist
              Maybe just a small intestine?

              Or can you inquire about the "gut thickness" among your friends and relatives? Much more useful than a stranger to you. Moreover, I explained my position, don’t believe it, don’t baptize children with me.
              Quote: Young_Communist
              After all, one thing is to bull on the Internet on some schoolboy set up by a fifth column

              Give an example, where did I "bull"?
              Quote: Young_Communist
              it’s completely different to present the same to the Guarantor

              Do you write this on the basis of personal experience or for a red word?
        2. Taoist
          Taoist 20 November 2017 17: 52 New
          10
          Read the text of this student’s speech ... Unfortunately, he didn’t quote Putin at all ...

          One sentence "graves of innocent victims" is enough
          (this is about the burial place of the Wehrmacht)
  24. Chief Officer
    Chief Officer 20 November 2017 15: 24 New
    +5
    Boot on bread, all!
    And a minor degenerate and a history teacher and this nedomera ...
    Fell in battle, you know ...
  25. Moskovit
    Moskovit 20 November 2017 15: 26 New
    +3
    Soon, incredible suffering will overtake many in Novy Urengoy. I would like to believe in it!
  26. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 20 November 2017 15: 30 New
    +4
    As usual, the verification will not end
  27. Cadet
    Cadet 20 November 2017 15: 32 New
    11
    Recently, my friend decided to conduct a survey of students in grades 9, 10, on the subject of knowledge of history, there were 10 people, the students are doing well and excellently, so they could not name the date of the Kulikovo battle, then from the marshals and commanders of the Second World War only Zhukov was named, Chapaev heroically fought in Stalingrad and reached Poland what WWII is not known, but they know that there is WWII, WWII began in the autumn of 1942, Germany attacked Poland in 1939 on June 22nd. The United States fought for the Germans and Russians, and the Second World War seems to have ended, somewhere in 1945. Japan heroically fought against the Americans who attacked it. I had to correct them and say that Chapaev was an Indian and beat the whites, after that there was a pause, and no one answered how to call Chapaev. We checked the knowledge in Tyumen, took reading history books, it says even better, is it worth it to increase the salary of teachers every time. We can continue to laugh at Ukraine as they rewrite history, we have already rewritten it.
    1. tracer
      tracer 20 November 2017 15: 46 New
      +7
      That's exactly it. If Russia is torn apart, it is thanks precisely to youth.
  28. rocket757
    rocket757 20 November 2017 15: 36 New
    +8
    I was always surprised by the statement - TRUTH, everyone has their own -.
    We seem to live in a world where there are universal values, rights, and further down the list?
    Fascism was condemned in terms of these values! So that another interpretation is not legal.
    This product is a product of both modern education and the political system.
    Our society is not perfect, there are many vices and troubles in the country, but to go over the edge, especially in such a fundamental, connecting the very essence of our people, themes, this crime.
    Each crime has a name. Now, as they say after the fight, they will be found ... or appointed, condemned / scolded or slammed in order to avoid a screech by a liberal / enemy pack, the essence of the circumstances and consequences for the country will not change.
    This is the product of our society ... AUTHORITIES, SYSTEMS !!!
    I do not see the light at the end of the tunnel! What we have is not what we would like to see ... what is creeping because of the "hillock", in my opinion even worse about home-grown reformers ... these are simply the enemies of Russia in the bulk.
    An optimist by nature ... but I would like to see a ray at the end of the tunnel !!!
  29. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 20 November 2017 15: 38 New
    +5
    This tennik is not a victim of the exam. He accidentally voiced what is in the minds of our anti-people government, especially when the first person is a Germanophile.
  30. Alex_59
    Alex_59 20 November 2017 15: 57 New
    +3
    As always, the universal dream of the mind. Well, yes, German soldiers hardly wanted to fight, who generally voluntarily wants to go to where they’ll probably kill you?
    Nevertheless, they climbed here themselves, right? Well, they wouldn’t climb.
    The graves are not well-groomed? Duck is the Germans questions - why the descendants of these soldiers do not come to look after their grandfathers? All crazy in short. And the kid, and those who will check the school, and the governors of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, and the Germans.
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  31. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 20 November 2017 16: 16 New
    +5
    A nightmare of how many discussions! As if the guy himself pushed the speech. Business people gave a piece of paper, they say the graves that are running are standing, give Uncle a measure of denyuzhku for cutting, he will plant flowers. And it’s necessary to plant on measure 58 both the measure and the writers. Child to a therapist! Well ... add up a belt! ;)
    1. Methane
      Methane 20 November 2017 16: 25 New
      +7
      Here, brothers, here's another thing:
      From December 6 to 12, in Moscow, as part of the documentary festival "Artdocfest-2017", the film "War for Peace" will be screened dedicated to the "heroes of the ATO" from the "Right Sector", which protect Ukraine from the Russian aggressor.
      Details at Kassad in LJ.
  32. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 20 November 2017 16: 22 New
    16
    There are several tales to the demand of German society, so to speak, for complacency: a) They did not kill the army, but the SS, the Wehrmacht “just fought” wassat b) no one supported Hitler, he somehow got out bully c) Nobody wanted to fight, but everyone went repeat d) In the occupied lands partisans were atrocities, the soldiers "simply defended themselves" request e) Policemen tortured people, the Wehrmacht spared people, but could not do anything negative f) all the grandmothers of the current Germans were raped by Soviet troops crying But excuse me, this is a product for domestic German consumption, it does not concern us at all, and somehow it is not necessary to take it seriously. And these people already want to (and not without success, it turns out) make us believe this? Well specifically
    1. MMX
      MMX 20 November 2017 18: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Knizhnik
      There are several tales to the demand of German society, so to speak, for complacency: a) They did not kill the army, but the SS, the Wehrmacht “just fought” wassat b) no one supported Hitler, he somehow got out bully c) Nobody wanted to fight, but everyone went repeat d) In the occupied lands partisans were atrocities, the soldiers "simply defended themselves" request e) Policemen tortured people, the Wehrmacht spared people, but could not do anything negative f) all the grandmothers of the current Germans were raped by Soviet troops crying But excuse me, this is a product for domestic German consumption, it does not concern us at all, and somehow it is not necessary to take it seriously. And these people already want to (and not without success, it turns out) make us believe this? Well specifically


      It is enough to read the memoirs of the German military commanders. Everything is literally saturated with just such rhetoric there. You're right.
  33. Yugra
    Yugra 20 November 2017 16: 31 New
    11
    Bulk, Svanidze and other liberaz dirt then grow out of such creatures. How could this get into Germany? How? Here, apparently, this gymnasium receives grants from the State Department. To clean and clean this nest ...
  34. Tartary
    Tartary 20 November 2017 16: 34 New
    13
    Svetlov Mikhail
    "Italian"
    A black cross on the chest of an Italian
    No carving, no pattern, no gloss, -
    A poor family stored
    And the only son wears ...

    A young native of Naples!
    What left you in Russia on the field?
    Why couldn't you be happy
    Over native famous bay?

    I who killed you under Mozdok
    So dreamed of a distant volcano!
    How I dreamed about the Volga
    Take a ride in the gondola just once!

    But I didn’t come with a gun
    Take away the Italian summer
    But my bullets didn’t whistle
    Above the holy land of Raphael!

    Here I shot! Here where I was born
    Where I was proud of myself and my friends,
    Where epics about our peoples
    Never sound in translations.

    Is Middle Don Bend
    Studied by foreign scientists?
    Our land - Russia, Rasey -
    Have you opened and planted?

    Not! You brought in echelon
    To capture distant colonies,
    To cross from the casket from the family
    Grew up to the size of a grave ...

    I will not let my country take out
    For the vastness of the foreign seas!
    I shoot - and there is no justice
    More fair than my bullet!

    You have never lived here and have never been! ..
    But scattered in the snow fields
    Italian blue sky
    Glazed in the dead eyes ...

    1943

    The boy is already an adult ... Bite - he will understand everything, if not angry.
    But from an adult censor, one would have to seriously ask ...
  35. anjey
    anjey 20 November 2017 16: 35 New
    +4
    It is not this boy who cares more for me, but who oversaw his project. What struck me the most was that in this report the words “fought”, “fallen soldiers in battles”, “the so-called Stalingrad cauldron” are applied to the German invaders
    obviously they wanted to lick the German ass, the northerners were wealthy in the majority, many probably had some real estate in Germany, and they often ride, somewhere a joint business, something like that, they wanted it better, softer, more tolerant, and there was a complete loss of pride in state, for the great Victory over fascism ...
  36. pepel
    pepel 20 November 2017 16: 38 New
    +7
    "Bravo" Medvedev and Fursenko EG and the "Bologna system" for which they "fought" began to give out the "results" of implementation. What will happen next???!!!! negative angry
  37. alexandrastafiev
    alexandrastafiev 20 November 2017 16: 41 New
    14
    The boy is clearly not from the family of a nurse or locksmith. Otherwise, whoever would send him to Germany at public expense. Such a "freebie" is only for the elite. Therefore, the head of the administration is blocking as much as possible the representative of the "golden youth".
  38. alexandrastafiev
    alexandrastafiev 20 November 2017 16: 48 New
    +4
    Quote: Observer2014
    Nikolay Desyatnichenko Career collapsed before it began. And who are your parents Desyatnichenko? I imagine what kind of kipish is there ..

    Probably the son of a nurse and a locksmith. And the mayor is not his uncle, but his uncle’s namesake is simple. :)
  39. Methane
    Methane 20 November 2017 16: 49 New
    15
    Quote: Ugra
    Bulk, Svanidze and other liberaz dirt then grow out of such creatures. How could this get into Germany? How? Here, apparently, this gymnasium receives grants from the State Department. To clean and clean this nest ...

    Yes, what is the State Department? Sponsored by this code-native Gazprom ...
    “But it’s much, much more interesting who finances and conducts all these years numerous programs for“ historical reconciliation. ”And if you dig a little bit on a specific occasion in the Bundestag, it turns out that the footprints of our largest gas monopolist are clearly visible there. Yes, Gazprom is the sponsor of the Novy Urengoy Lyceum, where this delegation of penitent Russian children came from. The fact is that Wintershall, a long-standing partner of Gazprom, in particular for the construction of the Nord Stream, is the sponsor of all these events. from Novy Urengoy is also apparently not random - that is where Gazprom and Wintershall joint projects are concentrated, where the latter has a blocking stake (25,01%) in the project for the development and development of sections of several Achimov deposits of the Urengoy oil and gas condensate field. " etc.
  40. Million
    Million 20 November 2017 16: 54 New
    +5
    As the kid was taught, so he said. Questions to Putin and his ministers.
    1. Glory to Berkut
      Glory to Berkut 20 November 2017 17: 32 New
      +4
      And when you have an attack of diarrhea, do you personally blame Putin and ministers for this?
      1. Million
        Million 20 November 2017 17: 53 New
        +5
        in your case, diarrhea is not the worst variant of consequences from the counterfeit products that are sold to us today in stores. I hope I understand the logical chain
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  42. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 20 November 2017 17: 07 New
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    Russia in terms of youth education is not very different from Ukraine. At such a pace, Russia will soon begin to destroy monuments to its soldiers and erect monuments to German zvahvatchtekam. And this little thing that blathers should be reduced at least once to Auschwitz, Dachau, to show the Belarusian film "Go and See." If you understand something, you can count as a person. But the "teachers" all recklessly fuck to dismiss without a lifetime right to engage in teaching. Such tough measures will allow at least to push the "Ukrainian" scenario in Russia itself. It's a shame for today's Russian youth ...
    1. anjey
      anjey 20 November 2017 17: 35 New
      +1
      the fact is that many of our nouveau riche from resources consider themselves to be people of the world and it is not known how much patriotism or Salvage they suck ...
  43. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 20 November 2017 17: 30 New
    +8
    In the words of the head of state, “Russian and German schoolchildren get together and together can look at the tragedies of the past, together analyze what national intolerance leads to, the desire to enslave entire countries and peoples”

    The boy had to say that anyone who comes to us with a sword will shout and receive. We will not even sweep the graves later. And if once again at least some kind of stupid c ** but just looks crookedly in the direction of Russia .... then we will tell you ******, ****** *********, put the machine in ****, and then ******** shovels like ******** ******** **** with ****** *** ******** in ********* ********* on ** th !!! .... colleagues, b **! To hit a fist on the podium and, slowly, with dignity to leave.
    Then we would clearly understand that children are learning correctly, there are no threats to peace. And the department of education is engaged in the organization of education and training, and not by drawing reports on its usefulness and effectiveness.
  44. Eurodav
    Eurodav 20 November 2017 17: 32 New
    +2
    Do not rush at the boy, he is only 14 years old !!! Adults are to blame, and the fact that he should already understand himself ... So he can understand it, but adults told him that "... The meeting of Russian and German children on the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow in Germany ..." (not clear why are we there), you need to read this! And what, the boy had to do? HIM ADULT TEACHERS gave the material !!! Nobody is considering this option?
    Let's wait for the return and I'm sure we'll find out about everything !!!
    The mayor-radish immediately interceded for him! Why are you like that, nothing is yet known to hang up labels ...
    "... Deputy Yelena Kukushkina, member of the Committee for the Development of the Agro-Industrial Complex and the Affairs of Indigenous Minorities of the North ..." - and where is this going? Is everything done in the agricultural complex? Are the small nations well-fed and clothed? Or in the wake of turbidity rose to PR? It’s also not clear ... Are there deputies who are closer to education or what? Be sure to throw the agrocomplex into battle?
    So soon we will find out everything and reward them by their deeds! ;-)
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 20 November 2017 18: 35 New
      +3
      Eurodav Today, 17:32
      Do not rush at the boy, he is only 14 years old !!! Adults are to blame, and the fact that he should already understand himself ... So he can understand it, but adults told him that "... The meeting of Russian and German children on the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow in Germany ..." (not clear why are we there), you need to read this! And what, the boy had to do? HIM ADULT TEACHERS gave the material !!! Nobody is considering this option?

      Just this option is now a priority.
  45. Taoist
    Taoist 20 November 2017 17: 41 New
    +8
    Do you know what actually in all of this story is really bad?
    The fact that this "Urengoy boy" became famous all over the world with the "glory of Herostratus" will grow up, and with a very high probability will really hate ... and not those who gave him this shit and taught him, but those who are now "boiling with righteous anger" and very it is likely to project to the whole country in which he was "so honest and smart" who was born ...
    After all, it’s not at all a complicated psychological study ... And how many of them there are ... That's what is scary, really scary ...
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 20 November 2017 18: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Taoist
      will project to the whole country in which he was "so honest and smart" who managed to be born ..

      Of course, it’s filthy, only he will not be the first and he will not be the last, the country will survive. hi
    2. Bolo
      Bolo 20 November 2017 22: 21 New
      +1
      but if he is stupid and low, then why should he be sorry?
  46. Mark68
    Mark68 20 November 2017 17: 49 New
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    The fact of the grossest neglect of the upbringing of the young generation is evident. For them, the Great Patriotic War is simply the history of the last century. It seems that the guy said the truth:
    1. A specific prisoner of war (named after the name of George Johan Rau) died in captivity - a fact;
    2. Since a prisoner of war died in captivity (without trial or investigation, he was not shot, but most likely died of poor maintenance, cold and hunger), he is innocently dead - a fact;
    3. The graves of the deceased in the cemetery of prisoners of war in a deplorable state - fact ;.
    4. Of the 250 thousand captured in Stalingrad, 6 thousand returned home - a fact.
    But jarred and insulted:
    1. Saying that a Wehrmacht soldier was captured “in the so-called Stalingrad cauldron” - this is “the so-called” for the guy who spoke, and the Great Battle of Stalingrad for a normal Russian person;
    2. At the POW cemetery, the guy “saw the graves of innocently dead people who wanted to live peacefully and did not want to fight, they experienced incredible difficulties during the war that my great-grandfather told me about” - as I understand it, the main complaint to this statement. Indeed, a very strange saying about the Wehrmacht soldiers, "who wanted to live peacefully and did not want to fight," but who reached the walls of Stalingrad with bloody battles.
    Conclusion: for the generation born after 2000, the Great Patriotic War is simply a distant, meaningless, history. And we are to blame for this - adults in the person of parents, teachers and the media. There is also the fact of victory in the ideological war paid by the adversary party for the minds of the young generation, Ukraine has been lost, we are losing ground and in Russia, that’s sad.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 21 November 2017 06: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Mark68
      The Great Patriotic War is just a distant, meaningless, history.
      Isn’t that so? The criminal Nazi regime fought with the no less criminal communist regime for the right to oppress freedom-loving peoples and deprive them of universal values. And so these criminal regimes would have fought head over heels until the valiant American troops landed and restored order in Europe and then in Asia (defeating Japan). The Americans, on top of everything else, were very kind and spared the communist regime, giving it another 50 years to die, until it itself fell apart. The iron curtain finally fell, the shackles of bloody Soviet totalitarianism were thrown off and freedom and democracy reigned (Coca-Cola and hamburgers, chewing gum and jeans, MTV and movies with Bruce Willis).wassat
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 21 November 2017 06: 27 New
      0
      Right And the adherents of the KhPP regarding the events in Ukraine shout only themselves, and there’s no “alternative to Minsk” themselves. Here are the edulubes and adherents of the HPP, admire the alternative.
  47. LPD17
    LPD17 20 November 2017 18: 22 New
    +3
    take a youngster to a memory watch, for example, in Novgorod swamps or near Leningrad
  48. 1536
    1536 20 November 2017 18: 27 New
    0
    The mind is incomprehensible! There is no limit to human stupidity. On whose side were the relatives of these "heroes of our time" fighting? And in what party did they bring them up?
    I think that the fighters and commanders who fell in the battles for our Motherland will protect themselves from these people from the outskirts.
  49. aleks700
    aleks700 20 November 2017 19: 15 New
    +2
    I read my mother’s comments. The boy apparently does not speak Russian. If you replace innocently with untimely, then it becomes clear. In any case, the parents are also to blame, who did not even read the report and whose school the teacher did not bother to get acquainted with.
  50. 1536
    1536 20 November 2017 19: 15 New
    +6
    You can’t hide the historical truth: the Germans came in the 1942 year on the banks of the Volga to kill Russian people. And the Germans killed them. Killed en masse. But by order, or not by order, it does not matter. In the same way, the Germans killed people near Leningrad, in the Crimea, in Smolensk, and many others. And the small German provocations in their battered Reichstag will not be able to whitewash their crimes against humanity in Russia during the Second World War.