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A schoolboy from the Russian Federation before the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people

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The scandal erupted around the performance of a group of Russian schoolchildren in front of German parliamentarians in the session hall of the Bundestag. Russian students from New Urengoy were invited to Berlin as part of the Russian-German government partnership program. The student of the gymnasium Desyatnichenko Nikolay presented his message to the audience. What he told raises questions not so much to the youngest person, but to the one who prepared him for this speech.


According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."

Considering the example of one of the Nazi soldiers (Georg Johanna Rau), who died in captivity in 1943, Nikolay Desyatnichenko told the German deputies that Georg, like many other soldiers, is in fact not at fault for finding themselves on Stalingrad land, since "Did not want to fight." The student reported that his great-grandfather allegedly told him personally what difficulties the German soldiers had in Soviet captivity.

From the message of the Russian student:
History Georg and work on the project touched me and pushed me to visit the burial of Wehrmacht soldiers near Kopeysk. It upset me. I saw the graves of innocent peopleamong whom many wanted to live in peace, did not want to fight. They experienced incredible difficulties during the war, which my great-grandfather told me about.


The Nazi soldiers, the occupiers who swore allegiance to the Nazi leadership, were called schoolchildren from New Urengoy "innocent people who had died." The question arises as to who the great-grandfather of the schoolboy was and who the history teacher was Nicholas, who thought the 16-year-old young man had thought that the invaders were innocent victims.

The full version of the speech of N. Desyatnichenko and other representatives of the delegation of Russian schoolchildren in the Bundestag is presented on the video:

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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 20 November 2017 12: 22 New
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    A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"
    Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 November 2017 12: 25 New
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      Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

      ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?
      1. michey
        michey 20 November 2017 12: 30 New
        91
        and he did not appoint the Minister of Education? And for 17 years of the country's development, he does not bear any responsibility? The boy - it is clear that under Putin he went to school. Well, if it does not - then of course nothing to do with it)))
        1. Logall
          Logall 20 November 2017 12: 42 New
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          I am joining! We cut the Soviet education, introduced an incomprehensible system ... So they waited!
          We praise Soviet education all the time, and introduce some kind of Singaporean ...
          1. figwam
            figwam 20 November 2017 13: 24 New
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            This is how our liberalism works. The boy must be taken to a concentration camp for Soviet prisoners of war, if there is a brain, then something can click through? I won’t be surprised if this is part of the anti-Russian propaganda paid from the west.

            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 20 November 2017 13: 33 New
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              "The mayor of Novy Urengoy interceded for a schoolboy who pity the Wehrmacht soldier" - https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
              D1%82%D0%B8/1062129/mer_novogho_urienghoia_zastup
              ilsia_za_shkolnika_pozhalievshiegho_soldat_vierma
              khta

              It is interesting.
              The mayor of Novy Urengoy, Kostogriz Ivan Ivanovich graduated from the Higher Komsomol School at the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history,
              qualification "teacher of history".
              In 1989, he was approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Party Committee.
              Tsey flop from Ukraine.
              To whom do we justify fascism, if not to him?
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              2. verner1967
                verner1967 20 November 2017 14: 00 New
                +3
                Quote: Nikolay S.
                Who do we justify fascism, if not him

                Quote: Nikolay S.
                graduated from the Higher Komsomol school under the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history,
                qualification “teacher of history, approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Committee of the CPSU.
                laughing
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
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                  Quote: verner1967
                  verner1967 Today, 14:00 ↑

                  You got busy, how do you seem to be propaganda from the opposite. Mol all the Communists are to blame ... without noticing, or specifically, that in this way you are promoting the justification of Nazism, along with this schoolboy?
                  Well, the political instructor killed by the Nazis in Pletzensee will answer you.

                  Musa Jalil’s poem "Stockings"
                  They were shot at dawn.
                  When the darkness was still white
                  There were women and children
                  And this girl was.
                  First they told them to undress,
                  Then to the cliff become your back,
                  And suddenly a child's voice came
                  Naive, clean and lively:
                  -Take off my stockings too, uncle?
                  Without reproaching, not scolding
                  Looking straight into the soul looking
                  Three year old girl's eyes.
                  "Stockings too ..?"
                  And with confusion the SS man is embraced.
                  The hand itself is excited
                  Suddenly lowers the machine.
                  And again bound by the eyes of children
                  And it seems that it is rooted in the ground.
                  "Eyes like my Duck" -
                  In turmoil of vague uttered,
                  Fanned by involuntary trembling.
                  Not! He cannot kill her,
                  But he gave the line in a hurry ...
                  Fell girl in stockings.
                  Did not have time to remove, could not.
                  Soldier, soldier, and if daughter
                  Your here would be so laid down
                  And that little heart
                  Pierced by your bullet.
                  You are not just a German man
                  You are a terrible beast among people.
                  Chagall the SS man stubbornly
                  Chagall, without raising his eyes.
                  For the first time this thought can
                  In the consciousness of poisoned lighted up,
                  And again the gaze glowed for children
                  And heard again,
                  And will not be forgotten forever
                  "STOCKINGS, UNCLE, ALSO REMOVE?"

                  Continue your disgusting activity in fact ...

                  The young man became famous.

                  To all of Russia.

                  Apparently, the educational institution in which the young man is taught is elite.

                  But it produces biomass.

                  Because - unconsciousness ...

                  For the local literature teachers, this is a testimony of a contemporary who had to live through something that the current bio-garbage has no idea about, but for which he readily repents.
                  Mikhail Svetlov.
                  Italian
                  A black cross on the chest of an Italian

                  No carving, no pattern, no gloss, -

                  A poor family stored

                  And the only son wears ...

                  A young native of Naples!

                  What left you in Russia on the field?

                  Why couldn't you be happy

                  Over native famous bay?

                  I who killed you under Mozdok

                  So dreamed of a distant volcano!

                  How I dreamed about the Volga

                  Take a ride in the gondola just once!

                  But I didn’t come with a gun

                  Take away the Italian summer

                  But my bullets didn’t whistle

                  Above the holy land of Raphael!

                  Here I shot! Here where I was born

                  Where I was proud of myself and my friends,

                  Where epics about our peoples

                  Never sound in translations.

                  Is Middle Don Bend

                  Studied by foreign scientists?

                  Our land - Russia, Rasey -

                  Have you opened and planted?

                  Not! You brought in echelon

                  To capture distant colonies,

                  To cross from the casket from the family

                  Grew up to the size of a grave ...

                  I will not let my country take out

                  For the vastness of the foreign seas!

                  I shoot - and there is no justice

                  More fair than my bullet!

                  You have never lived here and have never been! ..

                  But scattered in the snow fields

                  Italian blue sky

                  Glazed in the dead eyes ...

                  1943

                  Stanzas of the century. Anthology of Russian poetry.

                  Comp. E. Yevtushenko.

                  Minsk, Moscow: Polyfact, 1995.
                  1. Black Colonel
                    Black Colonel 20 November 2017 15: 38 New
                    +8
                    Good poems.
                  2. old pioneer
                    old pioneer 20 November 2017 15: 58 New
                    +9
                    Not the first time I read (hear) and every time a lump in my throat ...
                  3. verner1967
                    verner1967 20 November 2017 18: 34 New
                    +2
                    Quote: badens1111
                    they say all the Communists are to blame ... without noticing, or specifically, that in this way you are promoting the justification of Nazism

                    Is your world divided only into Nazis and Communists?
                    Quote: badens1111
                    Well, the political instructor killed by the Nazis in Pletzensee will answer you.

                    and do not confuse party functionaries with ordinary communists who honestly performed their duty, my father was a communist and grandfather too, just ordinary communists. You’re plus for the verse (but it’s not yours), for the conclusions it’s minus (but not to be put), therefore I will refrain.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 20 November 2017 19: 38 New
                      +4
                      Quote: verner1967
                      Is your world divided only into Nazis and Communists?

                      Unlike your monochrome vision, I have it is somewhat more diverse.
                      But that’s what you do not see at point blank range and in your dazzle you heal an outright abomination, I see.
                      Here is the answer to you, who and how, Yu
                      brought education to the pen and who specifically prepared this schoolboy.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUogMgPf5s
                      Quote: verner1967
                      my father was a communist and grandfather too, just ordinary communists

                      And why do you disgrace them? My tongue will not turn out, to throw at least a small part of what you have been talking about here about my grandfathers and father.
                      1. verner1967
                        verner1967 20 November 2017 19: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Unlike your monochrome vision, I have it is somewhat more diverse.

                        something is not noticeable in your statements, like someone who disagrees with the Communists, so immediately the Nazi
                        Quote: badens1111
                        And what do you dishonor them?

                        How am I to disgrace them? Facts.
                        Quote: badens1111
                        My tongue will not turn out, to throw at least a small part of what you are talking about here about my grandfathers and father.

                        were they party functionaries?
                      2. badens1111
                        badens1111 20 November 2017 20: 52 New
                        +2
                        Quote: verner1967
                        were they party functionaries?

                        They were OFFICERS.
              3. starogil
                starogil 20 November 2017 14: 09 New
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                Novy Urengoy - Whose Patrimony? Boy is not just a talking head, boy
                the conductor of the worldview of uncle moneybags, gymnasium - a hotbed of new
                liberal worldview.
              4. a housewife
                a housewife 20 November 2017 14: 18 New
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                I also have a Ukrainian last name, albeit by husband. But I also have Ukrainians in my ancestors, this is not uncommon among the Kubans. Do you think people with a Ukrainian surname are immediately suspicious? Think a little bit.
            2. captain
              captain 20 November 2017 14: 29 New
              +4
              I read the comments of the cheers-patriots, adherents of the Communists and am amazed. Is it really that Putin said the schoolboy is guilty? Then Stalin was to blame for the fact that 5.3 million of our troops surrendered during the Great Patriotic War. And Stalin is to blame for the fact that almost a million of our compatriots fought on the side of the Germans. And the CPSU is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, that the Russians were persecuted and destroyed in many Union republics. After all, education ministers were appointed by the General Secretaries. Reading shamelessly and disgusting some thoughtless comments. (or maybe just specially written, soon the presidential election and some really want to throw Putin).
              1. faiver
                faiver 20 November 2017 14: 42 New
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                and Putin, including, the commander always bears responsibility ...
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 20 November 2017 21: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: faiver
                  Putin, including, the commander always bears responsibility ...

                  We continue to unravel the N. Urengoy cube. Another son of Yavorsky, a teacher of a schoolboy, Yavorsky Ostap Olegovich, that is, the brother of the Kiev punisher. He teaches in the same gymnasium as his mother, history and social studies. Social science! Charles! Finalist of the 2014 Teacher of the Year contest. Sweet family ...
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              3. Ivan Ivanov
                Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 58 New
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                Quote: captain
                I keep the comments of the cheers, the followers of the Communists and am amazed. Is it really that Putin said the schoolboy is guilty?

                You are right responsible for everyone who chooses our power, which allows educating ignorant anti-Soviet
              4. Awaz
                Awaz 20 November 2017 15: 03 New
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                on the side of the Germans actually fought within 100 thousand Soviet citizens. A maximum of 150 thousand. All the rest who fought were mostly former citizens of the Russian Empire. The so-called ChiVi, they did not fight. It is worth recalling that the French alone on the Soviet-German front killed about 200 thousand people.
              5. nomad62
                nomad62 20 November 2017 15: 44 New
                +6
                Freely, captain!
                Get a cookie
              6. Yanakolos
                Yanakolos 20 November 2017 15: 53 New
                +1
                throw off Putin and lie under s, it seems they forgot that in the 90s they already went to bed. Although ... the State Department to spend hundreds of millions on trolls in the Russian media, so these "writers": nothing personal, just work ...
              7. badens1111
                badens1111 20 November 2017 17: 08 New
                +6
                Quote: captain
                I read the comments of the cheers patriots

                Yours or what? Yours and the justification of Hitler and the Nazis .. not ashamed?
                Quote: captain
                Reading shamelessly and disgusting some thoughtless comments. (or maybe just specially written, soon the presidential election and some really want to throw Putin).

                Are you talking about yourself? Really ... it's a shame, a former member of the CPSU, and you were him, to write what you write in defense of the Nazis, in support of this schoolboy.
              8. albert
                albert 20 November 2017 18: 37 New
                +9
                Quote: captain
                Then Stalin is to blame

                Rotmister, you are exactly from the same company as this shkololo. The anti-adviser is always Russophobe, this formula, as I was convinced, is mathematically accurate.
              9. MOSKVITYANIN
                MOSKVITYANIN 20 November 2017 23: 13 New
                +2
                captain And the CPSU is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, that the Russians were persecuted and destroyed in many Union republics.

                Yes, it’s useless to talk about it with the Communists, they will always find the culprits, only not themselves until the last communist dies, and these conversations about the current will ruin the Great USSR, forgetting to point to which RI ruined it before, and then drank the USSR ...

                What is common between:
                - minors succumbed to provocation of adults (not necessarily for money, it would be better if he said it for money, otherwise I do not envy our Society) or is this his personal opinion,
                и
                - comrade Gorbachev, who dismissed the ATS, the CMEA, and gave unification to the two Germanys, did not receive any dividends for the USSR;
                and comrade BNE transferring the entire Russian stock of weapons-grade uranium to the United States?

                Which of them is worse and more harmful to the Russian Federation?

                We must pray to God that such "children" do not join the ranks of the "unsystematic" opposition, otherwise, the Maidan in Ukraine in the future will seem to us a children's party ...

                Here on the forum, they are ready to kill and insult each other, only for a different point of view, a little more and we will "mature" to go out into the yard ... by killing each other ...
            3. badens1111
              badens1111 20 November 2017 19: 34 New
              +3
              Quote: figvam
              The boy must be taken to a concentration camp for Soviet prisoners of war, if there is a brain, then something can click through? I won’t be surprised if this is part of the anti-Russian propaganda paid from the west.

              Not only the West.
              Then A. Gasparyan was given out by a history teacher who was preparing a scholar for this report, has a son who is fighting in the ATO on the side of punishers ..
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUogMgPf5s
            4. smart ass
              smart ass 21 November 2017 04: 36 New
              0
              Well, in something he is right, there is a Wehrmacht, and there are thugs from ss. But in fact, the Wehrmacht soldiers are ordinary citizens of Germany called up for military service, no one gave them a choice
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 21 November 2017 09: 27 New
                +4
                Quote: Clever man
                But in fact, the Wehrmacht soldiers are ordinary citizens of Germany called up for military service, no one gave them a choice

                This is not counting the Wehrmacht order, signed by Keitel, on the eve of the invasion of the USSR, which issued indulgence to any soldier who committed a crime on the territory of the USSR.
                This order has no relation to Croats, Hungarians and Finns. But those, in the bulk, tried to beat the thugs from the SS.
          2. puskarinkis
            puskarinkis 20 November 2017 14: 11 New
            +5
            There used to be an education that provided extensive knowledge, and now there are narrowly focused "projects." Moreover, directed "where necessary" ...
        2. Victor N
          Victor N 20 November 2017 12: 44 New
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          Responsibility - on us at all, do not turn away! Hiding from responsibility for others is ugly.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
            12
            Responsibility for supporting such a power, go to the polls!
            1. shark
              shark 20 November 2017 14: 17 New
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              No need to turn the situation in its liberal side. Responsibility for passing by very often. Responsibility for our indifference, for the thought that someone else will definitely do, and I'm in a hurry. And power has nothing to do with it. We are to blame!
              If only one real man would come to this schoolboy, he would simply take and show photos of the victims of concentration camps, photos of shot civilians, and even the film “ordinary fascism” by Roma. And would talk. Just talked. Heart-to-heart. As a person with person .... We do not speak with our children. Hiding for work .. Well, so what else do you want from them.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 20 November 2017 17: 34 New
                +2
                Yes, you can even stop a hundred times to poke this squalor with your nose into the facts, but if the SYSTEM educates and educates in this way, nothing can be done! We can only change ourselves!
            2. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Responsibility for supporting such a power, go to the polls!

              One must go to the polls, this is the only tool, but choose others.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 21 November 2017 08: 22 New
                0
                I always went! Now I see what it was. Now with all my relatives I will ignore the elections.
        3. Monos
          Monos 20 November 2017 12: 48 New
          49
          The question is, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholasthat drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders were innocent victims.

          It's not a secret

          Children, go and get paid. And for denyushku they can sell their homeland. So parents told them that it is possible.
          1. PalBor
            PalBor 20 November 2017 12: 51 New
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            Quote: Monos
            The question is, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholasthat drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders were innocent victims.

            It's not a secret

            Children, go and get paid. And for denyushku they can sell their homeland. So parents told them that it is possible.

          2. Sinbad
            Sinbad 20 November 2017 13: 55 New
            10
            With such indicators of knowledge, in the Soviet school, in the 70s, they would not be winners, but losers.
          3. Hoc vince
            Hoc vince 21 November 2017 01: 00 New
            0
            Regional stage olympiads on history. 88b. out of 200b. - prize winner. This is how the region knows history. Prize-winner less than half. Knowledge level.
        4. LSA57
          LSA57 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
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          Quote: michey
          The boy - it is clear that under Putin he went to school. Well, if it does not - then of course nothing to do with it)))

          why aren't parents to blame ????? they did not tell him anything about the Second World War? and why do we have everything felled for school ??? Yes, the child spends more time at home than at school !!!! or out of sight out of mind ???
          1. verner1967
            verner1967 20 November 2017 14: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: LSA57
            why aren't parents to blame ????? they did not tell him anything about the Second World War?

            Correctly! And then parents were brought up in Soviet society and received the "best in the world" Soviet education.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 14: 17 New
              +9
              Quote: verner1967
              Correctly! And then parents were brought up in Soviet society and received the "best in the world" Soviet education.

              learn better italian
              these parents were brought up already under the squeals of liberals
              and Soviet education without any quotes was really one of the best
              1. verner1967
                verner1967 20 November 2017 18: 43 New
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                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                learn better italian

                teach your wife to cook borsch
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                these parents were brought up already under the squeals of liberals

                These parents were taught by Soviet teachers, they still found pioneers and went to Soviet kindergarten. My daughters are almost the same age as him, a little older, but for some reason they do not justify Natsik.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 19: 24 New
                  +3
                  Quote: verner1967
                  these parents were taught by Soviet teachers, they are also pioneers

                  fifty dollars exchanged, and the mind ..., I remember the same time and remember what they printed and what they carried on the air, I went through it myself, so leave
                  1. verner1967
                    verner1967 20 November 2017 19: 44 New
                    0
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    what carried with on air
                    if ether was the best teacher for you, then sorry hi
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    yourself went through it, so leave
                    Excuse me, how did this go? They were carried from the air, or were they printed in the Twinkle? lol
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 21: 11 New
                      +1
                      Quote: verner1967
                      if ether was the best teacher for you, then excuse me

                      that is, you received the information exclusively in the classroom, neither literature nor mass media gave you anything ?!
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        5. Awaz
          Awaz 20 November 2017 13: 03 New
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          I have a child of the same age. So, I myself have witnessed the fact that history textbooks have more or less recently returned to an adequate form. Last year, he received a history textbook and I began to read in between. I really went nuts. It so happened that at one time I studied the history of the civil war and revolution quite tightly and not according to textbooks, but according to eyewitnesses, and I also studied in a Soviet school. But what is written there - the ears immediately wilted. However, in the process of disassembly, it turned out that this textbook was the last edition and now the children are learning a new one. The child was given a textbook by mistake. He changed it and there are completely different estimates. NU is not perfect, but adequate, although everything is casual.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 20 November 2017 14: 27 New
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            My children, too, were studying with shoddy textbooks. And we, the parents, why? My husband's grandfather at Stalingrad also fought. Cavalry. Then the "Poles shoot in the back," then the Bandera attack on the train with the wounded. Everything. On the last photo of him 33 of the year, looks at all 50 - a tired man. A "innocent", of course the Nazis. And we are all guilty! beat them. Teach your children at home; a textbook should convey facts; it’s not able to teach pride or patriotism. And the boy - the demand from adults. He himself did not go there, and the speech was written to him. But! For the sake of justice, I must say - indeed, not all who fought were such villains, although how many were there — who knows. But excuse me - you are fighting on our territory, then you are definitely enemies.
            1. Awaz
              Awaz 20 November 2017 14: 55 New
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              I have a daughter with a friend. The girl is Jewish by mother and a little older already. She studied along the trashy textbooks. Duck, like, together with her we went to our native "village" of Kilometers 400 ride in a continuous stream of trucks. Slow and boring. And behind the conversations came the theme of war and the Jews. She was very worried about the Jews for the children. Type for what them and so on. I tried carefully, so as not to frighten, to explain that the Jews started this war and they destroyed such ordinary Jews as it specifically, so that later they would use it for their own selfish purposes. And the fact that many more Russians died than Jews in all of Europe does not bother anyone. And what else . Russians are just for Jews and often died because they resisted fascism. Jews, for the most part, went to the slaughterhouse like cattle. (I apologize for the comparison, but the fact is this) And so no one appreciated that the Russians saved the Jews from total annihilation. She didn’t understand this either.
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                1. Awaz
                  Awaz 20 November 2017 18: 33 New
                  +8
                  when such reactions occur, this is a guarantee that I correctly raised the topic. Some started stirring ...
                2. Awaz
                  Awaz 20 November 2017 18: 36 New
                  +6
                  and further . The Bible is a carbon copy of the Jewish Talmuds. So, there this topic is very well disclosed. Read at your leisure ...
              2. a housewife
                a housewife 21 November 2017 01: 30 New
                +1
                Yes, of course, the Jews started a war! Only - oh, not to be confused - some Jews started a war so that they would specifically destroy other Jews, and Russians would save Jews, and then blame the Jews for everything! And those Jews whom they destroyed, specifically went to the slaughter, so that the Russians felt sorry for them and specially began to save, so that these Russians died as much as possible. For mercenary purposes.
                So - everyone went to the slaughter, both Jews and Slavs, who were accused of helping the partisans, and all the others - because it was peaceful - PEACEFUL - the population! And those Belarusians who were burned with whole villages also went to slaughter. I wonder how they could resist? It was a war where entire nations were destroyed. The Jews declared that there was their annihilation. Does someone stop the Russians from declaring the same? But were there no Jews in the Soviet army? And the Georgians, Ukrainians, Moldavians, Kalmyks, Uzbeks - of all nations? Or did the Soviet army consist only of Russians? And who has a short memory here?
        6. Piramidon
          Piramidon 20 November 2017 14: 18 New
          +5
          And if this kid goes to Navalny’s circle, then is Putin still to blame? And here are the same kind of bastards that you are eating beer under the windows at night and stsut in the porches - Putin should disperse?
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 20 November 2017 16: 09 New
            +3
            Nevertheless, the conditions for the development and formation of Russian society have existed for a very long time and contrary to the opinion of the majority of the country's population, it was under citizen Putin V.V. and his team.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 20 November 2017 17: 20 New
              +5
              Quote: Pax tecum
              Nevertheless, the conditions for the development and formation of Russian society have existed for a very long time and contrary to the opinion of the majority of the country's population, it was under citizen Putin V.V. and his team.

              Yes, you damn zadolbali. Putin has yet to clean out the toilets, sweep the yard from the gobies and wipe your ass after the pot.
              1. Pax tecum
                Pax tecum 20 November 2017 17: 30 New
                +3
                The phrase "... and his team," please also take into account. For the king is made by the retinue.
                You should not "replay" in your comments, for I will also answer with your words: "Yes, damn it, you are sick of it." Learn to distinguish the ideal from the real.
                1. sogdy
                  sogdy 20 November 2017 18: 50 New
                  0
                  Quote: Pax tecum
                  Pax tecum

                  Have you painted the shop already? And washed the elevator?
                  Quote: Pax tecum
                  Learn to distinguish the ideal from the real
        7. Sharapov
          Sharapov 20 November 2017 17: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: michey
          and he did not appoint the Minister of Education? And for 17 years of the country's development, he does not bear any responsibility? The boy - it’s clearly already under Putin went to school

          Schools are different ....
          Teachers too.
          in this case, they are united by the pronunciation of surnames:
          Desyatnichenko - undergrowth
          KononenKO - teacher
          Kostogryz - the mayor of the city, who sent the kid in front of the uninspired "sins" to petition.
          smacks of Bandera, is not it?
        8. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 21 November 2017 04: 33 New
          +5
          And the parents of the offspring have nothing to do with it?
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 20 November 2017 12: 30 New
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        Quote: aszzz888
        Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 20 November 2017 12: 33 New
          14
          Andrei Yurievich Today, 12:22 the President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          ... and for an incomprehensible student speech from whom?!?!?!?!?!? the same President answers?!?!?!?!?
          1. Young_Communist
            Young_Communist 20 November 2017 14: 25 New
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            Quote: aszzz888
            ... and for an incomprehensible student speech from whom?!?!?!?!?!? the same President answers?!?!?!?!?

            Do you like to stick to the achievement of the Russian People, who regained the Crimea, love and keep the answer for the activities of the ministers you appointed

            In general, it’s good that my grandfather did not live to see the first poisonous fruits that yielded 17 years of Putin’s liberal policy.
            1. Settlement Oparyshev
              Settlement Oparyshev 20 November 2017 16: 48 New
              0
              Of course, you would serve in the NKVD and shoot any other such ...
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              1. Young_Communist
                Young_Communist 20 November 2017 18: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: Sharapov
                I am becoming more and more convinced that VO has turned into a bunch of inveterate militant utopian communes. Where are the moderators watching? because they will close the portal on a plausible pretext ....
                Anti-Soviet (Russophobe), chtoli?

                Quote: Sharapov
                . Utopian children, Madonna can’t be instigated in Russia, you need to be in the DPRK.
                Do not think punching - Kim Jong Un betrayed and renounced the ideals of Marxism and its social care, in favor of the pseudo-religious (and therefore non-viable) Juche cult. I use both hands for him when he does not bend under the mattresses. At least it would not hurt him at the same time, at least to bring worms from his soldiers.
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                  1. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 20 November 2017 19: 54 New
                    +6
                    where was the komunyak social care? Special shops and special hospitals for party nomenclature - more - no, no .. otherwise - equality and fraternity - PENSION from collective farmers 20 re?
                    but now with you the Democrats, the capitalists are well and pensions for a million and in stores palm milk.
                    And you are not talking about oil about modern Russia?
                  2. Young_Communist
                    Young_Communist 20 November 2017 20: 06 New
                    +3
                    In what place did komunyak have social care?
                    Has Putin already received a free apartment after his service, market man?
                  3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 20: 36 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    In what place did komunyak have social care?

                    was there any other, a simple example, tell me why, under the Union, Uzbeks and Tajiks worked for themselves?
                  4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 20: 37 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    the rest - equality and fraternity - PENSION from collective farmers 20 re?

                    ?? !!
                    where you read such nonsense ?!
                  5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 20: 38 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    There has never been a people and a party united. Otherwise, the USSR would not have collapsed

                    how old are you boy?
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                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 21: 12 New
                      +2
                      Quote: voronbel53
                      you only have a place in a madhouse

                      will not take
          2. Guillon
            Guillon 20 November 2017 14: 57 New
            +8
            If this kid said something like that in his yard, then no one would have heard, and this speech was made to the whole World !!! Everyone should answer now !!! You catch the difference!?! am
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 20 November 2017 12: 55 New
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          Quote: Andrew Y.
          for all.

          and parents didn’t wipe his nose too. President is to blame ????
        3. Muvka
          Muvka 20 November 2017 13: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: aszzz888
          Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

          ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          Is Putin also to blame for the fact that you have hemorrhoids?
        4. SOF
          SOF 20 November 2017 13: 49 New
          +3
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          .... wah, wah, wah !!!!!
          IMPIENT to the president - HOW dare not to read the undergrowth speech before its announcement!
          Little of! Since, according to the anthem of the Russian Federation ("... Stored by God ..."), HE is also responsible for the country (!!!), then IMPIEMENT and HIM !!!
          all IMPIEMENT!
          ... more stars .... How can MORE stars please ...
          right across Lavrov ...
        5. Des10
          Des10 20 November 2017 13: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          and only such a President is needed.
        6. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 13: 55 New
          11
          There is such a thing - delegation of authority. In this case, the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, which reports, if I am not mistaken, to D. A. Medvedev. I have no complaints about GDP in terms of rejoicing for historical correctness, especially during the Second World War. It was under him that the active propaganda of heroes-veterans began. Remember what happened in the 90s
        7. Makarov
          Makarov 20 November 2017 14: 11 New
          +2
          Yeah ... he is responsible for everything, while not being the power ... If he doesn’t appoint ministers (would you at least read the Constitution, interpretations to it ... or by the "rank" is not supposed to?)))
          1. Zhelezyakin
            Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 15: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: Makarov
            If he doesn’t appoint ministers (would you at least read the Constitution, interpretations to it ... or is it not supposed to be “ranked?”)))

            Don't you think that you are confusing the cause with the investigation? The minister is first appointed, and then he proposes and implements reforms. Although of course it’s not Vasilyeva’s right now to make a claim for the examinations already introduced ?! It is worth noting that I do not like the current education system. Our children are trained to put ticks correctly, but they don’t lay knowledge in the head, as such ...

            PS
            About the ranks, did not understand at all. I don’t know you, I didn’t insult you in any way, therefore I ask you not to switch to personalities))) Personally, I go here to share my opinion and culturally communicate. If you have a different goal, I ask you not to read or comment on my posts.
            1. Makarov
              Makarov 20 November 2017 17: 03 New
              +2
              Well, maybe I’m confusing it, now we’ll try to figure out whether I understand you correctly ... There is one curious fact when comparing reality and constitutional norms there is a dissonance .... everything is written in the Constitution quite understandable and that is surprisingly still in Russian. The President, among other things, shapes the country's domestic policy, but this looks like a very cunning legal "trick" when it comes to the real implementation of his decrees and the implementation of his policies. There are many such examples, especially the economy. My opinion about the education and the fault of the President of the Russian Federation in this: in the educational system and in science as a whole, is a real crisis. With science, I don’t see a better solution than the “Soviet” one (smear money with an even layer and “pull out” breakthroughs based on research results). In the educational system, I would personally add a well-developed program of the practice of applying knowledge to the “Soviet” format. This is a tremendous amount of money and it’s not a fact that the result of these injections will not be toppled “over the hill”. What does the President have to do with education? Well, given that his decrees and his opinions are in fact formal, and the resistance in our country to the development of science and education is enormous, I think the problem is systemic and the course chosen will not change from a change of leader. It is necessary to change the system of relations between authorities. Ie the Constitution. Then any reform of the minister, deputy and head of the district council will have a purpose. And then it will be possible to verify the result of work with a given goal. Without clearly defined goals: who we want to see after the 10th grade, you cannot blame the minister for poor work. It's like blaming bees for making the “wrong honey."
              1. Zhelezyakin
                Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 17: 14 New
                +6
                Hmm ... So what exactly is the fault of GDP? As far as I remember, he did not give decrees on the reform of education, or is this what you blame him?
                Quote: Makarov
                you cannot blame the minister for poor work. It's like blaming bees for making the “wrong honey."

                I agree, everyone should eat their carrots. However, I wrote about this, referring to the delegation of authority. I believe that in this case, GDP can issue a decree on the need to conduct an audit in the existing education system. It is impossible to say that the chosen path is fundamentally wrong; this will be tantamount to recognizing errors in the adoption of laws and the existing education program. I think in this, from the part there is a snag ...
                1. Makarov
                  Makarov 20 November 2017 17: 23 New
                  +1
                  I just do not think that Putin is to blame. Moreover, I believe that nothing will change from the change of Putin to any other person in the current state of things. And I see a snag even earlier =) - that his decree is not binding at a certain stage, faced with ... let's say so with an insurmountable barrier of instructions and instructions, or he will simply be ignored by the deliberate intention of officials ...
                  1. Zhelezyakin
                    Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 18: 20 New
                    +5
                    Well, thank God, figured out))) drinks And then I began to think it was a sinful thing that I was turning into a tongue-tied creature that I really could not express a thought ...
                  2. sogdy
                    sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 00 New
                    0
                    Quote: Makarov
                    Moreover, I believe that nothing will change from the change of Putin to any other person in the current state of things.

                    I'm still grossly apologizing, but why then push the ideas of the Hubbardists?
                    Especially to argue for high spheres from Germany ???
                    1. Makarov
                      Makarov 20 November 2017 19: 05 New
                      +1
                      1. What ideas do I “push” from Hubbardists?
                      2. And what can one argue "for high spheres" only from Ryazan?
                      3. I wonder what you think about this informational occasion.
                      1. sogdy
                        sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 17 New
                        0
                        Quote: Makarov
                        1. What ideas do I “push” from Hubbardists?

                        Wow! Violet is encrypted!
                        Quote: Makarov
                        2. And what can one argue "for high spheres" only from Ryazan?

                        Attoch! For you, the whole country is Ryazan (a wild hole!).
                        Quote: Makarov
                        3. I wonder what you think about this informational occasion.

                        That you cannot be cured. Only sedatives.
                        The Ryazan clause is very specific.

                        There was such a writer - Romain Rolland. It seems like a good writer, funny, patriot. Do not remember why all of Europe hates him?
                      2. Makarov
                        Makarov 20 November 2017 19: 31 New
                        +2
                        Well, maybe I can’t be cured because I didn’t need to be treated, didn’t you think about it? I do not answer the question: "What are the ideas of the Hubbardists I" push "?" The answer is "Wow! Purple is encrypted!" of which only the word purple can be attributed to literary speech, which we will directly say neither to the village nor to the city. And whom do you call this "old man" purple? For me, the hole is a wild Pskov. And Ryazan, due to my lack of knowledge of your level of development, I cited as an allegory that characterizes the province in Russia. And again you didn’t answer me: What “for high spheres” can only be said within the borders of the Russian Federation? And what does Romain Rollan (a patriot (?!) is he French or something a patriot) mean that a high school student of a Russian school (!) Called the Wehrmacht soldier "innocent dead people"?
        8. Nelepost
          Nelepost 20 November 2017 14: 26 New
          +3
          And Andrei Yuryevich, is not responsible for anything, Putin is all responsible for him. :)) So if you do not want to answer for anything, then your opinion will always not care. And those who also don’t want to be in their native country support you (plus) you are not responsible for anything, but should be the first to listen to them, since their criticism is the most correct, etc.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 November 2017 19: 57 New
            +1
            not responsible for anything, Putin is all responsible for him.
            this is called demagogy. ordinary citizen and head of state, their level of responsibility is different
        9. captain
          captain 20 November 2017 14: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: aszzz888
          Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

          ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          And who is to blame for the collapse of the USSR? It’s just like you who ruined it, for which everyone is to blame, except for yourself. It is necessary to think over; The president is responsible for everything in the country! What for your son’s not wiped ass?
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          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 November 2017 19: 58 New
            +1
            The president is responsible for everything in the country!
            all leaders were ALWAYS responsible for everything in the country.
        10. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 18: 54 New
          0
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING.

          Datycho? !! Or an orderly?
      3. I doubt it
        I doubt it 20 November 2017 12: 31 New
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        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!?

        Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....
        1. Neputin
          Neputin 20 November 2017 12: 53 New
          21
          And if the GDP has nothing to do with it (Rafik doesn’t have a win-win for anything), a reasonable question arises: Why the hell do we need such a president and such a government if they are not responsible for the results of their WORK?
          1. SOF
            SOF 20 November 2017 14: 25 New
            +4
            To hell with us such a president

            ... well, how is it "to hell" - of course, what would you ask.
            What a cool theme they came up with to search for the extreme ones. And what a wonder! Every second knows who is to blame! What to do, however, is not a tooth kick, but the fish decaying from the head is defined as according to the pattern. Whose templates do we use ???
            But tell me, dear, if a traffic cop from a hangover at the wheel catches you, and he will also begin to hint at a bribe so that you can do nothing:
            1. give a bribe and ... "chur me, chur ... I will not sit behind the wheel anymore" ... eat away;
            2. say gaytsu: "What are you !!! Yes, I am law-abiding!" Call the police inquisition, put the gayts in and hand over the driver’s license to the state guards for a couple of years.
            Answers like: I'm not drunk behind the wheel - do not roll.
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 20 November 2017 17: 42 New
              +2
              And if I really say that a drunken driver is not sitting down? Believe it? My motivation is responsibility to others and demand from myself! I apologize for the arrogance.
              1. Neputin
                Neputin 20 November 2017 19: 42 New
                +1
                So I do not sit down either. Even somehow SOF discouraged me with such a question.
          2. sogdy
            sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Neputin
            To hell with us such a president and such a government

            Suitcase, train station, Israel.
            1. Neputin
              Neputin 20 November 2017 19: 43 New
              0
              They won’t take it. Address to "fellow writers", for example to SOF - he asks such questions as God's chosen one.
            2. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 21 November 2017 08: 25 New
              0
              But where will Putin go to Israel! What a honest word you are ..
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 20 November 2017 12: 57 New
          12
          Quote: I doubt it
          Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....

          Well, yes, in the country of devastation, there is no work, there’s nothing to eat, defense at zero. you did not confuse Russia with urkain ???:?
          1. Neputin
            Neputin 20 November 2017 19: 48 New
            0
            As you precisely noticed. In the country, devastation is a fact, there is something to eat, but expensive, and therefore nothing, work in bulk, but they pay a penny, at least lie down with your bones, but you won’t earn more than 35-40 thousand (you need to live at work). But there is no normal work with a decent salary. I don’t know about defense capability, I don’t have to judge, but some facts (for example, the pace of the USC operation, constant accidents in the space industry, etc.) are straining not childishly. But in Ukraine the same thing.
        3. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: I doubt it
          Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....

          You have nothing to do with it. He is our President.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 21 November 2017 08: 26 New
            +1
            Yes President that sounds proud. Still, there were things besides sounds.
      4. Smog
        Smog 20 November 2017 12: 32 New
        32
        Until history will be studied according to the Sorov textbook, this will be so. And this is only the beginning.
        There is no longer a question for the kid, but for the one who "taught" him. Maybe these "teachers" decided to bend before the Germans. And the kid is like a pie, what kind of stuffing they will invest in, he will wear one.
        1. GRF
          GRF 20 November 2017 12: 45 New
          12
          Quote: Smog
          Until history will be studied according to the Sorov textbook, this will be so. And this is only the beginning.
          There is no longer a question for the kid, but for the one who "taught" him. Maybe these "teachers" decided to bend before the Germans. And the kid is like a pie, what kind of stuffing they will invest in, he will wear one.

          Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.
          Didn’t he watch movies? Didn't read books?
          And even About the Holocaust did not hear? Jews would have thrown him for such things with his entourage ...

          And the fact that textbooks are like that is that we are.
          My children will have a story like this 2.

          Pavlik was at all times, but chewed it somehow ...
          1. Smog
            Smog 20 November 2017 13: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: GRF
            Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.

            And I did not say that he was not to blame. But still, the question is more to teachers and parents. That we don’t have apple-biscuit fan teachers? There is. Yes, and these parents are also enough. What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies. They know. But ..... make your own conclusion.
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 20 November 2017 13: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: Smog
              What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies.

              and who told you that he is for Navalny - maybe from the Nashi movement, just one of their former bumps, recently on Facebook enjoyed the green card of the American
              1. Smog
                Smog 20 November 2017 13: 38 New
                +1
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                one of their former bump, recently on facebook rejoiced at the green map of the American

                Surname of a cone do not sound?
                1. Stirbjorn
                  Stirbjorn 20 November 2017 13: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Smog
                  Surname of a cone do not sound?

                  Of course - Maria Drokova!
                  The former commander of the Nashi movement, Maria Drokova, who was awarded the first degree Order of Merit for the Fatherland Order in Russia, received a US green card, which she reported with enthusiasm on her Instagram. “I’m so glad and grateful,” wrote Drokova, “ get a green card and get closer to citizenship in my home country of the USA ”
                  Masha Drokova, born in Tambov, born in 1989. At the age of 15, she joined the pro-Kremlin youth movement Nashi and soon became a federal commissioner and official speaker of the movement. Drokova also became known for kissing Vladimir Putin on the cheek during his visit to Seliger in 2009.
                  1. Smog
                    Smog 20 November 2017 14: 22 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    Maria Drokova!

                    the girl gained fame for a kiss with Vladimir Putin, but in the end she moved away from pro-government views and went into business, first joining the Acronis company management, and later taking up international PR.

                    What can I say, if only to get a boost. And it doesn’t matter with whom.
                    And here is a freshman from the capital’s non-vital mundep.
                    Yashin at the council of district deputies mocked the saints
                    RIMRIM 18.11.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX
                    At an extraordinary meeting of the Krasnoselsky Council of Deputies, led by a member of Solidarity Ilya Yashin, a scandal occurred. Mundep Ilya Mishchenko, Yashin’s comrade-in-arms, in his speech called Saints Peter and Fevronia a “syphilitic” and “blackmailer”. The video shot at the meeting was published by Moskovskaya Gazeta.

                    Ilya Mishchenko, a junior researcher at the Russian Society for the Conservation and Study of Birds, under the approving smile of Yashin, criticized the project of erecting a monument to Saints Peter and Fevronia of Murom on Bolshaya Sukharevskaya Square.

                    “I consider it inappropriate to erect such a monument. Because nothing is clear from the sources, and even living makes one doubt the moral lifestyle of Peter and Fevronia. Peter himself was sick with syphilis, since he was sleeping with his brother’s wife, after which Fevronia blackmailed him: at first she didn’t completely cure him, and then he cured him, forcing him to marry himself. And when Peter died, he demanded that she die with him, ”Mishchenko said.
                    An attempt to abuse the honor of the saints caused a smile on Yashin's face. He even covered his face when he heard about syphilis. For information of a member of Solidarity and his comrade-in-arms Mishchenko, this disease, brought from America to Europe, was first recorded in Russia in the XNUMXth century. The Mundeps, obviously, are not aware that the lives of the saints and the annals of sources send us back to the beginning of the XNUMXth century.
                    Video upload?
                2. Sauron80
                  Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 08 New
                  +1
                  Enjoy
                  https://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/2017/03/13/12979
                  9-byvshaya-aktivistka-dvizheniya-nashi-poluchila-
                  grin-kartu
                3. Young_Communist
                  Young_Communist 20 November 2017 14: 33 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Smog
                  Surname of a cone do not sound?


                  https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/13/drokova/





                  The rats seem to be neglecting from the ship, whose name is "Putin's liberalism"
                  1. Smog
                    Smog 20 November 2017 14: 36 New
                    +3
                    But nothing that this movement stopped its activity five years ago?
                    Quote: Young_Communist
                    rats are not from the ship,

                    And Russia is never on the way with rats .... Let them run. The air will be cleaner.
            2. andj61
              andj61 20 November 2017 14: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: Smog
              Quote: GRF
              Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.

              And I did not say that he was not to blame. But still, the question is more to teachers and parents. That we don’t have apple-biscuit fan teachers? There is. Yes, and these parents are also enough. What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies. They know. But ..... make your own conclusion.

              Did you just read the article, or did you listen to the student too?
              I don’t really like his report precisely because he focused on sensual, personal - with respect to a particular German soldier - moments, and not at all on history. The essence of the event was simple - German schoolchildren made reports about specific Soviet soldiers who died in Germany, Russian - about specific German soldiers who died in Russia. Both of them reported cruel time; about the millstones of war, ruthlessly grind human destinies. There is not even a shadow of an attempt to justify fascism and the inhuman Nazi regime.
              If a schoolboy added a couple of phrases about the Nazi criminals who unleashed this war, the tone of statements on this subject would probably be the opposite.
              A schoolboy who was sympathetic to a particular German soldier should not be harassed - but that we are now harassed and nothing else.
              The Russian people have always been magnanimous to their enemies. And the Germans are no exception. I really want to hope that the student who emotionally showed the generosity of our people to the German people will not suffer from this. hi
              1. Sauron80
                Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 54 New
                +1
                It is just for the sake of justification that all this is conceived, sympathy for the enemy will end in either having a knife in your back or an enemy’s boot.
                1. andj61
                  andj61 20 November 2017 15: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: Sauron80
                  It is just for the sake of justification that all this is conceived, sympathy for the enemy will end in either having a knife in your back or an enemy’s boot.

                  This is hardly the case with the Germans - and they, in fact, are not enemies now, and they still sprinkle their heads with ash, understanding and accepting the guilt of their nation for unleashing the war, and for its many victims.
                  This memorial project aims to reconcile the descendants of the two most uncompromisingly opposing nations. We now have nothing to share with the Germans.
                  And it’s not worth it to record the current Germans as enemies - we have enough enemies already.
              2. sogdy
                sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 40 New
                0
                Quote: andj61
                The essence of the event was simple - German schoolchildren made reports on specific Soviet soldiers who died in Germany, Russian - on specific German soldiers who died in Russia. Both of them reported cruel time; about the millstones of war, ruthlessly grind human destinies. There is not even a shadow of an attempt to justify fascism and the inhuman Nazi regime.

                You know, there were many patriots in the country, only their patriotism led them to different results. Dissidents, insurgents, collaborators and just gangsters. And all of them, even recognizing their patriotism, are not subject to any excuses.
                So the rotten idea itself, by the way, directly arising from the idea of ​​equalization, with the help of some substitution of concepts called tolerance.
                That's just "tolerance" - this is from the Spanish Order of Christ, from the first Jesuits. And in all languages ​​associated with Latin, the meaning will always return to the original - imposition and enslavement.
                And here it is very bad - Russian and Latin have a single structure - up to the ideological series.
          2. faridg7
            faridg7 20 November 2017 14: 04 New
            +8
            And he, in addition to textbooks, also looks around himself (I do not mean a specific shrimp, but the whole generation) What do you want if the textbooks say about occupation and genocide, while in the city someone cares for the graves of German soldiers, and Does someone bring flowers to the graves? In summer, a memorial to Japanese soldiers who died in Primorye was reconstructed in the city. City and Seaside officials took part in the opening of this memorial (we have a year of friendship with Japan and Nii Pet). AND NONE OF THEM HAVE BENT OUT, NOBODY REMEMBERED THESE SOLDIERS WERE HERE TO KILL US HERE. And the children, they absorb everything that you sow. And what do our officials sow when erecting monuments to murderers and rapists?
      5. LSA57
        LSA57 20 November 2017 12: 50 New
        13
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        old song in a new way. the cat left the kittens, this is Putin's fault. the wrong report was written to him and he gave the wrong parents
        1. Pushkar
          Pushkar 20 November 2017 13: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: LSA57

          old song in a new way. the cat left the kittens, this is Putin's fault. the wrong report was written to him and he gave the wrong parents
          Well, yes, they’re on the kids.
      6. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
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        and then what about the GDP?!?
        And who was the first to repent before Poland, the Crimean Tatars? .. Who encourages anti-Soviet hysteria in their country? There has been a meeting between the president and cultural figures. All of them asked to restore the Soviet education system. As always with jokes-jokes sent to hell.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          As always with jokes-jokes sent to hell.

          Cultural figures - who is it by name? Makarevich, Raikin? Diva with implants?
          Quote: Gardamir
          All of them asked to restore the Soviet education system.

          Is someone bothering you? Licensing textbooks, teacher training, total political selection - and go with the song!
          Cho, weak ?! At one time, it took 30-35 years to raise people who were ready to do this. And then it took them 5 to 15 years to transition to the Soviet education system.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 32 New
            +4
            Is someone bothering you?
            How do you hate Russia!
            Culture is Maceuv, Tsiskaridze ...
            and about textbooks, what can be printed on any collective farm or is this question being addressed at the state level?
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 46 New
              +1
              Quote: Gardamir
              Culture is Maceuv, Tsiskaridze ...

              I do not know at point blank range. I know Katsev.
              Quote: Gardamir
              What can be printed on any collective farm or is this question being addressed at the state level?

              Licens.
              And type at least on a typewriter. Though in the electronica. But they are not. Freshly licensed by state order will be printed for the next school year. And where will they go - ...
              My comrades after the army teach - on Zeya, on Vitim, in Tunka. Lead on several subjects - no teachers. On textbooks agree in any form.
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 20 November 2017 14: 27 New
                +2
                I do not know at point blank range
                Why climb into the discussion? To boast of your ignorance?
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      7. sir_obs
        sir_obs 20 November 2017 12: 59 New
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        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or assign it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?]

        Honestly, I’m annoyed when everyone blames Putin. But not at this time.
        The Yeltsin Center, which has become a nest of corruption of minds of such schoolchildren, rectors of all kinds of universities, hammering “European values” into the heads of young people, everything happens from his silent non-participation. Everything is directly threatening the existence of the state, and the president is obliged to intervene in the most immediate way or this is a hello to very sad consequences.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 51 New
          0
          Quote: sir_obs
          everything happens with his silent non-participation.

          I would understand if the country was about the size of a lol.
          And since this is not so, then your whole conclusion is a rut.
      8. Black_Vatnik
        Black_Vatnik 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
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        And what about the GDP? Why do I, the dense provincial, understand that the exam is a gloom, and the GDP does not understand it?
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Black_Jacket
          I, the dense provincial, understand that the Unified State Examination is darkness,

          And the Minister of Education does not think so ... She does not believe in subject matter.
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      10. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 13: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!?

        about this freaking USE already grind all the language
      11. alexandrastafiev
        alexandrastafiev 20 November 2017 13: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: aszzz888
        Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        Of course, the king is good, these are bad boyars! As if he did not put them and does not bear responsibility for them.
      12. 108- guards pdp
        108- guards pdp 20 November 2017 13: 58 New
        +2
        And who is it? “The fish rots from the head,” minobr, this is an office subordinated directly to the Prime Minister and the Prime Minister.
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      14. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 November 2017 14: 29 New
        +8
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        GDP appoints ministers, including the Minister of Education. In this case, we are talking about Olga Vasilyeva.
        And in this regard, I want to ask this Minister of Education, what kind of vegetable does she do nothing at her post?
        But it was reported that they say the exam passed without a total write-off, etc. It’s necessary, they survived that they put a “framework” on the exams at schools, like at airports, and the guards who each graduate with a metal detector lures. That's where the ministry of education merits. And the fact that the illiterate youth began to spit. The main order in the exam is to ensure that they are not written off.
        For such students here, it is necessary to drive in three necks this Minister of Education, and the school principal and history teacher, who shoved this nonsense into the head, this mediocrity.
        This is a spit on the graves and this kid of grandfathers who fought against fascism. And he does not even understand this. D.B. damn (through yat).
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 19: 56 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          And in this regard, I want to ask this Minister of Education, what kind of vegetable does she do nothing at her post?

          What do you think, how long does it take for an entire minister to take action on one student? His teachers? Defenders?
          Are you sure that the college is not private? Or do you not know that there are such?
      15. PROXOR
        PROXOR 20 November 2017 14: 31 New
        +1
        The offspring with the family fell the forest in Magadan and at the same time remove all the snow. Minister of Education at the Uranium Mine. Lyceums close, all teachers under investigation.
      16. badens1111
        badens1111 20 November 2017 14: 42 New
        +6
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!?

        The legal status of the President of Russia is enshrined in the fourth chapter of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. In article 80. The Constitution defines the functions of the President:

        The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state, the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. The President takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities.

        The President defines the main directions of the state’s domestic and foreign policy, represents the Russian Federation within the country and in international relations.
        https://studopedia.ru/11_70254_prezident-rf-ego-f
        unktsii-prava-i-obyazannosti.html
        Now the question is, who from the Ministry of Education was preparing this group? Who in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs coordinated the speech of this shkolota in the Bundestag?
        How did all levels of state power blink clearly in the provocative and Russophobic act of this schoolboy’s speech?
        Why, to this day, the history teachers of this gymnasium, who are sitting on grants of an anti-Russian orientation, work according to their profile, and do not sweep the streets?
        And so it is necessary to do.
        Why does the director of this lyceum still dare to mutter something there, to justify this, and not work as a cleaner at the memorial cemetery of our soldiers forever?
        No, that’s right.
        When there is a PROHIBITION to the profession in the West, is that right, it’s like an attack against freedoms out there, do we need such freedoms and such directly corrupt representatives in the profession, who train traitors directly with boys and girls?
        Still the FSB would be interested in who is there who deftly provoked this provocation.
        https://ura.news/news/1052313136
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 20: 04 New
          0
          Quote: badens1111
          Who in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs coordinated the performance of this shkolota in the Bundestag?

          So first find out exactly this question. You will be very surprised - NGOs, in addition to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Education.
          Quote: badens1111
          When in the West there is a ban on the profession,

          We have one too. But through the court. If this does not tell you anything, I explain - there is a strictly defined order of appeals, reviews and decisions based on the law. Any deviation, "acceleration of the process" - and everything is canceled, as if carried out in violation of the law.
          Are you doing this?
      17. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 20 November 2017 14: 43 New
        +6
        Quote: aszzz888
        . and then what about the GDP?!?

        and he’s nowhere and never with anyone like you. Not for a disfigured education, or for an endangered nation, or for beggarly pensions, or for the dominance of migrants, or for hellish corruption, or for the anti-people’s policies that the government appointed by it, or for e-centers ......, it’s nowhere and never once.
        I join Yurich’s "poisoning" and I also congratulate you.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 20: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Stroporez
          and he is with people like you

          I would like to ask, but how many of you are there?
          But you don’t confess.
      18. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        Yes, nothing to do with, 30 years of anti-Soviet art on the screen, at parades, education, new monuments is an absolutely invisible thing. Fursenko, an innovative educator, is still in advisers and is always there.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 20 November 2017 12: 29 New
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      Lord, we give a nod to the crest, but among the jumpers and horses they grow, such in the future and the Eternal Flame will be poured with cement and they are already taking selfies there. negative
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 20 November 2017 12: 41 New
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        I agree with you, Vlad! This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm! sad
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 20 November 2017 12: 49 New
          15
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm!

          It’s Max’s alarm, and it will turn into a funeral bell, well, this idiot, he has clay instead of brains, sculpts that you want and sculpt his future stormtroopers to the joy of Navalny, and the teachers and their head teachers, gorona and other selpo for hell, I wonder where he was great-grandfather of this zats, I’m not talking about parents. negative
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
            15
            Quote: 79807420129
            I wonder where was this great-grandfather

            I would not be surprised if my great-grandfather was an electrician and wore two lightnings on a helmet. negative
            1. 79807420129
              79807420129 20 November 2017 12: 58 New
              +6
              Quote: Jedi
              if the great-grandfather was an electrician and wore two lightnings on a helmet.

              Well, such electricians were usually not taken prisoner, but all sorts of kiwi kiwis are quite.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 20 November 2017 13: 03 New
                +3
                About the helmet, I’m figurative, but you understand what I mean ...
              2. sogdy
                sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 27 New
                +2
                Quote: 79807420129
                Well, such electricians were usually not taken prisoner

                Damn, theorists! I found them.
                1. 79807420129
                  79807420129 20 November 2017 13: 37 New
                  +5
                  Quote: sogdy
                  Damn, theorists! I found them.

                  Colleague hi , don’t understand how I want to offend or sarcasm, but forgive me, where and when did you find the SS men? belay Given that I am now 51, the grandson of the war veterans, and now my grandfather himself. hi
                  1. Pushkar
                    Pushkar 20 November 2017 14: 00 New
                    +1
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Excuse me, where and when did you find the SS men?
                    I don’t know how sogdy, but as a child in Latvia I saw them who had "served" in good faith. Even then they were the same “innocent,” and now they are generally heroes.
                  2. sogdy
                    sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 13 New
                    0
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Given that I am now 51

                    Young man, "25 with promotion" - they built our city. The latter reclined in 78-79.
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 20 November 2017 19: 23 New
                      +5
                      The latter reclined in 78-79.

                      This is apparently especially "loved" our homeland. The soft laws of the "stagnant" period let them go home, now we are reaping the benefits.
        2. Monos
          Monos 20 November 2017 12: 59 New
          17
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm!

          Hello Max! hi
          There is another point:
          Russian students from Novy Urengoy invited to Berlin as part of the Russian-German state partnership program.

          That is, one of the government officials selected them, looked through the reports. And ... missed. The disease is deeper than we think. sad
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 20 November 2017 13: 05 New
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            Hi Victor! hi
            Quote: Monos
            That is, one of the government officials selected them, looked through the reports. And ... missed. The disease is deeper than we think.

            Not only missed, but could not help but understand what resonance this will cause. It smacks of frank diversion ... no
            1. Monos
              Monos 20 November 2017 13: 14 New
              +9
              Quote: Jedi
              Not only missed, but could not help but understand what resonance this will cause.

              There may be such an option that a speech was written to him. They said: "You are now in the cage, we will promote you. Read this. This is a good start to your career. Listen uncle, you will not regret it." And the guy is only 17 years old! How not to "swim"?
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 20 November 2017 13: 21 New
                +7
                For this is not something to plant - it is necessary to shoot! The liberals had seen enough of the West rewriting history and decided to try it in Russia. How much can you babysit with such offspring ??? angry
                1. albert
                  albert 20 November 2017 18: 53 New
                  +3
                  I hope in Novy Urengoy there are people who will break a couple of dozen bones to this young mankurt. am
                2. Monos
                  Monos 20 November 2017 19: 26 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Jedi
                  The liberals had seen enough of the West rewriting history and decided to try it in Russia

                  I will add
                  1. Monos
                    Monos 20 November 2017 19: 31 New
                    +6
                    And I’ll add

                    When will we begin to apologize to the Ukrainian Nazis? sad
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 21 November 2017 07: 50 New
                      +3
                      Hi Victor! hi Sponsors as to selection - valiant liberal tolerasts! negative
                      Quote: Monos
                      When will we begin to apologize to the Ukrainian Nazis?

                      When the cartridges for the “Cord” are brought up, we’ll immediately “apologize”! angry
          2. sogdy
            sogdy 20 November 2017 20: 09 New
            0
            Quote: Monos
            as part of the Russian-German state partnership program.

            Surprise, but this is not a state program.
            1. Monos
              Monos 20 November 2017 20: 11 New
              +5
              Quote: sogdy
              Surprise, but this is not a state program.

              So the grant. And I guess whose.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 November 2017 21: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm! sad

          Oh, it would be a funeral march to all that we value.
          And I think that this is the case when very tough measures and speedy education reforms are needed, with the abolition of the USE and the change of the negligent minister to a person of business, of the same formation as Shoigu.
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 50 New
        +2
        what do we want? 30 years of anti-Soviet education and film, a fake anti-Soviet candidate freely rides around the country, to the Yeltsin Center with the excuse of Vlasov, cherry on the cake: https://twitter.com/Urugvayintellig/status/932551
        820165173248
    3. KAV
      KAV 20 November 2017 12: 30 New
      18
      This is the beginning of the end ... And there will be only more such "enlightened ones". Hurry, reformed the education system! Survived ...
    4. Azazelo
      Azazelo 20 November 2017 12: 31 New
      10
      Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
      1. michey
        michey 20 November 2017 12: 35 New
        16
        Yes, yes, he passed by. And so all 17 years.
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 20 November 2017 12: 35 New
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        Quote: Azazelo
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.

        And who appointed Medvedev as president? wassat

        More useful TV shows - Let them say, House-2, that there is something about magicians, about judges, about battles ... we will drive people into the herd ...
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 20 November 2017 12: 37 New
        13
        Azazelo
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
        Oh yes! How I like to read that Medvedev is a stronghold of evil! laughing Excuse me (Medvedev), he chose himself for the presidency? Or the Russians have nothing to do with it?
      4. Karaul73
        Karaul73 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
        +3
        Well, yes, he was not prime minister then. Do you generally believe that something in Russia without Putin can be solved? And yes, it’s nothing to do with
      5. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 02 New
        +6
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
        Do you know that false is bad quality? Although it may be for consumers and amateurs of capitalism-liberalism is a blessing. Unified State Examination began to be introduced in 2001. Who do you think was the president?
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 13: 58 New
          0
          I didn’t notice:
          History - 88 out of 200 - medalist. This miracle will pass the exam?
          Or is it not in the exam, but in the list of exam questions? And this is decided in a completely different place.
          That's just explained for the lady who sponsored the "7th studio" from the Ministry of Culture.
      6. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 52 New
        0
        they have long been greeted by cinema, from the rolling anti-adviser Navalny, from the liberal government, from the educated Livanov, from the monuments to Kolchak Krasnov, Wrangel, skin and fame to glorious citizens.
    5. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 20 November 2017 12: 35 New
      +4
      I don’t know what school programs are now, I didn’t watch, but if a schoolchild says such things, apparently these programs worked very well or were specially worked out. In our Soviet times, this was not allowed. Proposal: To conduct a nationwide discussion of school textbooks, not all, but only on history, literature, and there may be some more and, based on the discussion and proposals made by residents of Russia and neighboring countries, make friendly amendments to these textbooks and over the next 20- 30 do not touch them.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Tartar 174
        I don’t know what school programs are right now, I didn’t watch, but if a schoolchild says such things, apparently these programs worked very well or were specially done.

        This student lit up with Novodvorskaya. Who shouted that it’s not pedagogical to pour green water on children? Yes, flogging is necessary. But also "not pedagogical."
    6. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 November 2017 12: 36 New
      +1
      Andrei Yurievich Today, 12:22

      ... spoke very correctly, see below. Could Today, 12: 32 ↑
    7. scrap123
      scrap123 20 November 2017 12: 47 New
      +1
      democracy takes over ....
    8. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 20 November 2017 12: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"
      Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.

      Why are you so worried about a typical Bad Boy Bad Boy? History is as old as the world. Well, the bourgeois will give him a jar of jam. Well, his classmates from Novy Urengoy would envy him (because of jam) (although in theory it would have been better if the Pendels were pressed like a school ryu). So what? Kibalchish boys, we still have the majority.
      Airplanes are flying ... Salute to Malchish-Kibalchish! soldier
      1. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 54 New
        +1
        add here anti-Soviet films, monuments to accomplices of the Nazis, the mausoleum always hung up and the picture is not at all rainbow.
    9. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 20 November 2017 12: 53 New
      +4
      The question arises, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholas, who drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders are innocent victims.
      Yes, questions are questions, many questions, because this is an illustration of the collapse of the ideological education of the young generation. Also - this is the need to call for an answer to all the organizers of this event. What is it: the omission of organizers and educators, or thoughtful provocation?
      I involuntarily recalled school events of my generation dedicated to the heroes of anti-fascism. For example, such as Julius Fucik, with his book Reporting with a noose around his neck.
      This lad apparently did not hear about such people.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
        +1
        thoughtful provocation?
        Think about who paid for the trip and composed the text of the speech.
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    11. Served once
      Served once 20 November 2017 13: 05 New
      10
      In 5-10 years, these schoolchildren will throw out proposals for the demolition of Mamayev Kurgan, the dismantling of the Motherland, etc., etc. A generation of kinship that does not remember is growing. This is scary, it is terribly and very alarming for Russia.
      1. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2017 14: 55 New
        +2
        probably fighting corruption, running to meetings to bulk
    12. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 20 November 2017 13: 18 New
      +8
      Well, what do you want, if we hang Mannerheim’s board at the official level - and this is Hitler’s direct ally!
      1. CAM
        CAM 20 November 2017 14: 16 New
        0
        Yes, you leave me alone from the Mannerheim board, there isn’t
    13. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 20 November 2017 13: 22 New
      +1
      and you see from this generation ... Putin and Vasilyev then what? What, should they keep an eye on each school? usually retardation in education begins with district-oblono, which manuals will be accepted and taught, sometimes contrary to the recommendations of the federal center ...
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
        usually retardation in education begins with district-oblohn,

        The head of the city of Novy Urengoy, Ivan Kostogriz, personally defended the local schoolboy, who was suspected of justifying fascism.
        https://ura.news/news/1052313134
        If cho, the Yamal-Nenets okrug, there have been a lot of different things from there lately ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 14: 18 New
          +3
          and in the good old days, both the school principal and the history teacher and the mayor of the city would have mastered new specialties
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            would have mastered new specialties

            Shipka is a lot of them there. By the way, they master there ...
    14. Pravodel
      Pravodel 20 November 2017 13: 22 New
      +2
      Pay attention to where this student comes from: because of the Urals, just from there, where various non-profit organizations and the Yeltsin Center intensively take root. Here are the first results of these roots.
      It is urgent to close all of these vipers and deal with the history taught in schools and other places close to vipers ...

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong Russia, a united people, a prosperous Fatherland that cannot be broken by internal and external enemies.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 20 November 2017 13: 57 New
        +4
        from Yekaterinburg, where the Yeltsin Center and all kinds of organizations are there, to Moscow, closer than to Novy Urengoy — would you look at the map of Russia before calling for patriotism — or is there no life behind the Moscow Ring Road ?! laughing
      2. Sauron80
        Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 14 New
        +1
        The future president of the Republic of Siberia is apparently growing up.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Sauron80
          the future president of the Siberia is growing up

          Niii will not take off.
          1. Sauron80
            Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 56 New
            +1
            May God grant that it does not take off, but, as they say, vague doubts torment me.
      3. Young_Communist
        Young_Communist 20 November 2017 15: 01 New
        +6
        Quote: The Truth
        because of the Urals, it’s exactly from where various non-profit organizations and the Yeltsin Center intensively take root.

        Yeltsin centers do not "take root". They are built personally by Putin on budget money.


    15. Herculesic
      Herculesic 20 November 2017 13: 54 New
      +2
      Sailed, nothing to say! But then it will be even worse, and they will already laugh at us, as the late Zadornov once said, “well, so-so,” and rightly so! !!
    16. 73bor
      73bor 20 November 2017 13: 57 New
      +1
      Education, of course, it has a place to be, but this is not in our history textbooks, but certain adults prepared this meeting, the Bundestag is not a passage yard, they will not let the first person come in there, the boy clearly speaks in writing!
    17. RASKAT
      RASKAT 20 November 2017 14: 06 New
      +1
      Under any government, there have always been oppositionists and disagreements. And now we have democracy in general, freedom of speech, what did you want, as they say, what they fought for .........
      Maybe the kid is the future Stirlitz, and he is specially abducted before the Germans. bully
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: RASKAT
        Under any government, there have always been oppositionists and disagreements.

        Well, yes, only this is a collaborator.
    18. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 20 November 2017 14: 08 New
      +1
      Ah yes GDP. oh yes FSB !!! We managed to do it everywhere .. laughing
      So Germans breed on chaff. They don’t care for the graves. Such nonsense could pass only in overweight Europe
      Brilliantly, Deutschland was transferred to the stalls.
    19. Piramidon
      Piramidon 20 November 2017 14: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      I congratulate the Ministry of Education and President Putin personally ...

      Do you know for sure that Putin teaches history to them?
      1. Yanakolos
        Yanakolos 20 November 2017 15: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        Do you know for sure that Putin teaches history to them?
        bulk informed him of this
    20. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 20 November 2017 14: 32 New
      +4
      I’m just curious - but are there relatives in this “пр ло х х" "" семье ’” family who died in World War II? And on which side of the front line did they fight? Did this lover of the “innocently killed” Wehrmacht warriors go to the Immortal Regiment parade?
      So the generation of "bulk" has grown ....
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 20 November 2017 15: 23 New
        +6
        Ilyich, our to you hi Yeah, the article. There are more questions than answers. I join all of yours. recourse
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 20 November 2017 17: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: Svarog51
          Ilyich, our to you

          Sergey, mutually!
          hi
          You know, and that's all - after a few parades of the Immortal Regiment?
          It doesn’t fit in my head - how can I?
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 20 November 2017 19: 27 New
            +6
            You see, now you can.
            It doesn’t fit in my head - how can I?

            But simply - this is for someone and that's all, an avalanche raced. For me personally, this is a missed spit by my "citizen" on Russia. Moreover, other people are behind the petty.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 20 November 2017 21: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog51
              For me personally, this is a missed spit by my "citizen" on Russia. Moreover, other people are behind the petty.

              I agree....
              I get up close as a sign of full support.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 21 November 2017 01: 40 New
                +5
                I get up close as a sign of full support.
                good
                "Without friends, a little bit of me, but with friends - a lot." drinks
    21. Tolyan
      Tolyan 20 November 2017 15: 23 New
      +1
      Vali is all on Pu. It's easier to live like that. Yes?
    22. Yanakolos
      Yanakolos 20 November 2017 15: 39 New
      +2
      Well, yes, but what about without Putin:
      - fucked up shit - Putin is to blame,
      - too sour grapes - Putin is to blame
      - bad weather, rain and hail - it's Putin's fault
      - great-grandfather shit and bastard - Putin is also to blame
      etc.
    23. the most important
      the most important 20 November 2017 17: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.

      I’m sure that this fact, like the tragedy in Odessa on May 2, will remain without comment .. Angel Merkel’s “partner” is also there, but they can’t be upset!
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 November 2017 12: 23 New
    23
    According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."
    Well, give him equipment with his parents, let him take care of him. If he finds, of course, these same graves.
    1. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
      +9
      Quote: Observer2014
      According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."
      Well, give him equipment with his parents, let him take care of him. If he finds, of course, these same graves.

      Here I agree with this with a curved back and with a long affectionate tongue, oddly enough. The graves of German soldiers (and Hungarian, Italian, and all other occupiers, too) are really groomed here. And this must be resolved at a high state level. It is necessary to legally prohibit anyone, including foreign states, organizations and individuals, from taking care of the burial places of enemy troops who came to us with the war. To assign this responsibility exclusively to the state (RF). And near each mass grave and on each grave there should be inscriptions saying that there are enemy soldiers who came to our land to kill us, but were killed themselves. And so it will be with everyone who comes to us with a sword. When such inscriptions appear near the cemeteries of the murdered invaders, then it will be possible to breathe a sigh of relief: "Russia has woken up!"
      1. Served once
        Served once 20 November 2017 13: 48 New
        +1
        Even better than all the "innocent dead" who got lost and others doing their duty to get to where they came from. We pick up our own. I think there’s money for a good deed (the red-haired nanotechnologist definitely has). All the same, they’re "enlightened" and not very Europeans in during 5-10-15 years they are dismantled and spoiled.
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 20 November 2017 14: 19 New
          +4
          Do not talk about graves groomed to talk.
          In the Kursk region, just on the Kursk-Voronezh highway, there is a huge complex - the fraternal cemetery of German troops. It is now too late to emphasize - the Nazis there, or "innocently lost sheep." They would not be “innocently lost” in Germany and would be buried, like, like Canaris there, the others.
          So this complex is in very satisfactory condition. Quite!
          Unlike the mass graves of our fighters, in Poland, let’s say.
          The Germans, for the time being, are so good that they do not engage in vandalism over graves.
          But! But!
          Caring for burials does not mean that we should shed tears over the "innocent dead." I repeat once again - nobody called them here!
          And the collapse of education ..... well, what do we have, apart from education, is everything all right? And the "terry anti-Soviet" did not sit down at Moscow State University? Ohhhh, now it is called differently, but the meaning is the same - to spit on themselves, believing that with such spat, self-spit, someone will become more willing to be friends.
          And GDP .... yes, it definitely bears part of the blame, definitely.
          At least due to the fact that some kid, 16 years old, in Berlin, took and did not give a damn and, not so much on himself, as on the history of the Motherland. On all his ancestors. At all the grandfathers-fathers of the current leadership. Country, education, culture ....
          Ehhhh ..
          1. Served once
            Served once 20 November 2017 17: 30 New
            +1
            In our Nizhny Novgorod region, these graves ..... I don’t know how to say it (I remember my grandfather, I was all wounded, there was no living place). So the graves of these ghouls are in very good condition, under black granite. They have no bottom , let the creatures spin in hell. You need to take your own, the benefit is huge Russia, there is room for an Honorable Burial place, as well as money. You can safely use billions of zakharchenko for a really good deed.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 November 2017 12: 27 New
    19
    Indeed, a number of questions arise for those who were preparing the performance of this student (by the way, the winner of the history Olympiad). What is this - stupidity or deliberate action in order to please the Germans by undermining the image of the country? I hope that the "debriefing" is ahead, but the word is not a sparrow ...
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 20 November 2017 12: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Indeed, a number of questions arise for those who were preparing the performance of this student (by the way, the winner of the history Olympiad). What is this - stupidity or deliberate action in order to please the Germans by undermining the image of the country? I hope that the "debriefing" is ahead, but the word is not a sparrow ...

      hi
      This is from the same area as fakes in the news and pictures from games.
      In fact, a couple of phrases stands out from the text about untidy graves and forgotten people.
      Another thing is that it was done deliberately (maybe someone changed the text) or, as always, by stupidity?! ...
      I would not be surprised if the speaker himself wrote ...
      For the younger (and older) generation, other words and concepts of "dark forest" or aka thermonuclear physics ... despite the "education" request
    2. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 20 November 2017 13: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      (by the way the winner of the history Olympiad)

      The question is, what kind of Olympiad was there?
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 20 November 2017 15: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Andrew NM
        what kind of olympiad was there?

        Last time - Novaya Gazeta.
    3. 73bor
      73bor 20 November 2017 14: 05 New
      +1
      The fact of the matter is if he is a prize winner of the History Olympiad then where did he find such books? In the face of a provocation of pure water, with the presence of logic, you can just ask yourself, if the poor German soldiers were killed by Russian villains, then what did these soldiers do near Stalingrad? Have you come on an excursion? Bundestag deputies do not themselves understand that all this is ACTION.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 November 2017 12: 27 New
    +8
    ... in fact, it turns out a problem for those who put it on "to speak" ... didn’t they see what was written with him? ...
  5. victorsh
    victorsh 20 November 2017 12: 29 New
    15
    There are NO words! I will not offend. There is no sense. It remains to apologize to Germany for OUR Victory.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 16 New
      0
      There are few apologies! We must also pay reparations!
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    1. michey
      michey 20 November 2017 12: 36 New
      18
      Understand, forgive and repent?
      I spit, whose orders were executed by ki from the Wehrmacht and whose orders now in the Donbass are carried out by the same "ordinary soldiers" from the Armed Forces, who also "just following orders" hide Gorlovka and Donetsk. Both these and these are ki.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 20 November 2017 12: 38 New
      13
      Azkii339

      I’m already reading your second comment. Are you by any chance not from the overgrown Navalny? You don’t like the GDP and our actions in Syria, you complain about education, but now you justify the invaders who invaded the country (they didn’t all want to fight). Who did not want, he surrendered, or deserted.
      1. Azkii339
        Azkii339 20 November 2017 12: 43 New
        0
        rotmistr60

        And you, by the hour, not from the Olginsky shoots? You may not even read further than your first comment I noticed.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 20 November 2017 15: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Azkii339

          0
          Azkii339 Today, 12:43 ↑
          rotmistr60

          And you, by the hour, not from the Olginsky shoots?

          Hello, the new incarnation of cheburek!
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      2. Zhelezyakin
        Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 12: 51 New
        +3
        Duc in captivity who wants to fight? Especially when for all your atrocities committed before, they press and look from every hut, from every corner with dumb reproach and hate! Yes, when his hands pulled clay and kaknly burst!
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 20 November 2017 14: 25 New
          +6
          Alex, welcome hi
          when for all your atrocities committed before, they crush and look from every hut, from every corner with dumb reproach and hate!

          You correctly noticed it. And not so many of these prisoners in our rear died, mainly from diseases. Here somewhere there was an article about how the Yankees treated the Germans in their occupation zone. Find and read - you will learn a lot of new things for yourself, especially how many of them from hunger in the first post-war year have tried on there. Here are the British Germans cherished in case of war with the Russians. Entire divisions, along with their weapons, were kept in acceptable conditions. So here it is.
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 20 November 2017 15: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: Svarog51
            especially how many of them from hunger in the first post-war year there tried on

            Mauthausen, without changing the order and without changing the guard, worked until 1951.
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 20 November 2017 15: 26 New
              +5
              Mauthausen, without changing the order and without changing the guard, worked until 1951.
              Thank you (without any sarcasm) hi I read the article, here I am trying to share with the younger generation. It is necessary to search the link. Here I found - "Eisenhower's death camps"
              https://topwar.ru/1452-lagerya-smerti-yejzenxauye
              ra.html
              1. Zhelezyakin
                Zhelezyakin 20 November 2017 15: 47 New
                +3
                Sergey, welcome !!!
                I heard, in general terms ... Yes, and what star-striped can surprise us after Khatyn and Auschwitz ?!
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 20 November 2017 19: 33 New
                  +4
                  They can, Alexey, they can. They in Vietnam outdid the Nazis atrocities over the civilian population. I will not mention the rest - this is the topic of a separate article.
                  Got information? And what are the findings?
                  1. Zhelezyakin
                    Zhelezyakin 21 November 2017 10: 06 New
                    +3
                    Not until yesterday it was somehow.
                    At home with a daughter, the world was done. I have it in the 4th grade. That is another "subject". I always thought that the European part of Russia goes to the Ural Range (at least that was how we were taught at school) and beyond the Urals - Asia ... So, I failed the test for checking the assimilation of the material. It turns out that the largest lake in Europe is Lake Ladoga, and the Caspian is out of work ... There you go! Of course, the Caspian Sea can be written off to the Middle East, but our continent is called Eurasia is not easy, I think))). What about the current issue, it is worth noting - we have never been distinguished by humanity. Long before Vietnam, there was genocide of the indigenous peoples of North America.
      3. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 20 November 2017 19: 06 New
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Are you by any chance not from the overgrown Navalny? You don’t like the GDP and our actions in Syria, then you complain about education

        Gospade, a person does not listen to and disapproves of the views of the king of the priest, and is dissatisfied with the current state policy. Quarter.
    3. Victor N
      Victor N 20 November 2017 12: 49 New
      +8
      There are no ordinary soldiers in the war - ONLY ENEMIES.
  7. Black water
    Black water 20 November 2017 12: 29 New
    25
    and at my grandfather a tank with "innocent dead people" stood up after a hit .... grandfather of "innocent dead people" hated until his death .... grandfather IM even wrote about it on the Reichstag ....... ... what children are taught ...... no words ........
    1. 73bor
      73bor 20 November 2017 14: 07 New
      +1
      We haven’t written anything like this in history textbooks; adult uncles and money worked here!
  8. Loess
    Loess 20 November 2017 12: 30 New
    11
    The question arises, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholas, who drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders are innocent victims.
    But the student does not have his brains? .. In 16, then ...
  9. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 20 November 2017 12: 30 New
    15
    Shoot the entire delegation, their teachers, the school principal and the Minister of Education
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 November 2017 12: 51 New
      +8
      both the government and the oligarchs! laughing
    2. Sinbad
      Sinbad 20 November 2017 13: 44 New
      +1
      Only in reverse order, start with the minister!
    3. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 20 November 2017 19: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Vasya Vassin
      Shoot the entire delegation, their teachers, the school principal and the Minister of Education

      While all sorts of uuasia will shoot everything and everyone, screaming around with horror and stuff - Russia has no future.

      Ride and shoot, show "silushka" and righteous anger.
    4. gaura
      gaura 21 November 2017 05: 15 New
      0
      Yes cho there. To shoot everyone: teachers, ministers, a schoolboy, a family to send, all who suddenly liked the news also in exile. Get to idiocy
  10. michey
    michey 20 November 2017 12: 32 New
    12
    Overton's windows are fully open. Soon we will repent before the civilized Germans, who brought the light of enlightenment to the dark barbarians, but who were mercilessly exterminated by non-people - the Communists ...
    Thank God, great-grandfathers did not live up to this.
  11. 23rus
    23rus 20 November 2017 12: 32 New
    +5
    This generation has grown up without living examples before our eyes - the Internet generation.
  12. mariusdeayeraleone
    mariusdeayeraleone 20 November 2017 12: 33 New
    +8
    To the wall and shoot.
  13. DenZ
    DenZ 20 November 2017 12: 33 New
    +6
    Actually, what this student said is close to the point of view of the Germans themselves. I have a friend of the descendant of captured Germans, and so she says that her grandfather did not want to fight, and in general was a peasant, but he had to because of propaganda, a state machine for conscription and all that. Maybe you can believe it as a special case, but from the stands of the Reichstag to call the invaders "innocent dead people" is certainly stupid (at least). I hope that nevertheless a minimum.
    PS And even if German soldiers can be called innocent victims, then only these victims of Nazi Nazism and for Russians they cannot be innocent in any way.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 20 November 2017 12: 36 New
      +5
      In Ukraine, the same songs. Upon appeal, no work, forced.
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 20 November 2017 12: 39 New
        +5
        Yes, the songs about it are the same at all times. And the conflict in Ukraine confirms this again (“I don’t know, I didn’t shoot, I didn’t kill anyone, I’m ruining me with a mechanic”) - that’s what they mostly say in captivity. And the bearded in Syria say this and in 100 and 200 years they will say it (if people still remain).
    2. Sinbad
      Sinbad 20 November 2017 13: 48 New
      +2
      Innocent victims? Well, let them be innocent, only first answer for our victims one to one, for all 22, or maybe more, a million dead. And that of that Germany and its allies will remain.
    3. sogdy
      sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 56 New
      0
      Quote: DenZ
      from the stands of the Reichstag call the invaders "innocent dead"

      Vashcheta is _intervents_, and this is a completely different sign.
      Applying the term "occupier" to the interventionist is to shift the semantic meaning. What, in fact, they are trying to achieve by calling the liberating army the occupier, and then applying all measures worthy of the invader-invader.
  14. Sergey53
    Sergey53 20 November 2017 12: 34 New
    +7
    There is nothing surprising. There is even no word on how and what is taught in our schools. All general educational subjects are cut back or not taught at all. Well, in this case, we need to remember where and on whose grants our teachers undergo internships? After this, one should not be surprised. If they also teach that the United States brought victory in World War II, defeating the Japanese fleet on Midway Atoll.
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 20 November 2017 12: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: aszzz888
    Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

    ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

    The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

    If anything, the Prime Minister manages the internal one, but he is definitely responsible for you!
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 20 November 2017 14: 49 New
      0
      And who appoints the prime minister? And what did the one who appoints the prime minister say? And he said that he was satisfied with the work of the prime minister and the government. Continue the logical chain or will you figure it out yourself?
  16. PalBor
    PalBor 20 November 2017 12: 37 New
    +6
    After all, someone led him from the moment the study was started. And this is not one person: a teacher, school administration, education department, etc., up to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let’s invite relatives of “innocent victims” to the “Immortal Regiment” "from the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS request
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 20 November 2017 12: 40 New
      +5
      Why did they stop at the Foreign Ministry .... and this is not the last spit on the sacred from the "saint" in the Kremlin ...
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 20 November 2017 12: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Nasr
        Why did they stop at the Foreign Ministry .... and this is not the last spit on the sacred from the "saint" in the Kremlin ...

        But innocently killed from the SS did not touch you? crying
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 November 2017 12: 48 New
          +3
          Why should fascists "touch" me? But whoever sent the undergrowth to speak to the German deputies is clearly not a history teacher .. But will you come up with an excuse for him? Right?
  17. Eurodav
    Eurodav 20 November 2017 12: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    ... in fact, it turns out a problem for those who put it on "to speak" ... didn’t they see what was written with him? ...

    That's it, otherwise they immediately climbed to blame the entire GDP ...
  18. Victor N
    Victor N 20 November 2017 12: 39 New
    +3
    Our parents, grandfathers, Vladimir Vysotsky bequeathed: DO NOT FORGET AND DO NOT FORGIVE!
    But forget. See the ancestors of the kid the horrors of war and occupation bypassed. But speaking on behalf of everyone is impossible. This must be explained to those who sent it.
    1. albert
      albert 20 November 2017 19: 03 New
      0
      In any case, judging by the comments, there are a lot of adequate people on the site. Another thing is strange, in our schools they seem to be less and less.
  19. tolancop
    tolancop 20 November 2017 12: 41 New
    12
    From my point of view, the "educational" institution, the preparation of such a student simply must have huge problems. Not excluding problems for the student himself. He has 16 years and his head should already have thought WHAT to say and WHERE. The Criminal Code for this character is just sobbing impatiently. It doesn’t matter that this juvenile doesn’t get to jail, the main thing is that he gets into the corresponding databases. And then he could not even dream of public service.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 20 November 2017 12: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: tolancop
      .... And then he could not even dream of public service.


      Hehe, we are still naive people ..
      1. tolancop
        tolancop 20 November 2017 13: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Nasr
        Quote: tolancop
        .... And then he could not even dream of public service.

        Hehe, we are still naive people ..

        Naive or not - I do not know. But a couple of cases where children were refused employment in serious state offices, not even for their sins, but for the sins of their parents - I know. Papules were once prosecuted. And it doesn’t matter what happened without the release (UD stopped for non-rehabilitating reasons), but the path to the offspring of the civil service was closed.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 November 2017 13: 37 New
          +1
          He went there and came for an armchair ... wink
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 10 New
      +1
      16 years old he has
      he was sent for this speech.
    3. Vorchun
      Vorchun 20 November 2017 13: 21 New
      +5
      You can have a different attitude to the Mikhalkov family, but once Nikita Mikhalkov quoted his father as saying: “Today's children, tomorrow people.” But one of these children may be the future president of Russia.
  20. Egorovich
    Egorovich 20 November 2017 12: 41 New
    12
    And my question is not to this school undergrowth, but to the teacher who checked this "opus". After all, a boy cannot speak with this verbiage without the approval of the leaders of this delegation.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 48 New
      +2
      This is one of the clown grant groups.
  21. K-50
    K-50 20 November 2017 12: 42 New
    +7
    Close in the zone for the propaganda of fascism. Parents a heavy penalty. Since the brain was not enough to educate such a child, let them practice it with their hands.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 November 2017 12: 52 New
      0
      National Socialism then. Fascism in Italy was.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 20 November 2017 14: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: Greenwood
        Fascism in Italy was

        Nect with the nickname of the notorious diamond mines: fascism has been everywhere. Even in RI. The Nazis are only one of its hypostases.
      2. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 20 November 2017 19: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        National Socialism then.

        Do you think anyone cares? After all, if you begin to speak National Socialism, then questions will arise, and why did the socialist brothers fight one by one? So it was during the Second World War, and now.
    2. dog breeder
      dog breeder 20 November 2017 13: 01 New
      +2
      Of all the comments, only this one pointed to the root of all problems - the parents of this teenager! In Japan, they correctly say that the main worldview of a child is laid by parents up to three to five years old! We naively believe that at this age they still do not understand much, but alas, our life, current being refutes this. If patriotism, love for one’s homeland, respect for the history of one’s people are laid in a child, no textbooks will break it! In extreme cases, a child receiving information such as this, when he arrives home, will ask Dad, from whom then his great-grandfather defended him, for whom he shed blood, why did millions die? Well, if you don’t ask, it means all of us, dear participants of this forum, do not have a nichrome life!
    3. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 20 November 2017 13: 24 New
      +2
      Article 354.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Rehabilitation of Nazism".
  22. asiat_61
    asiat_61 20 November 2017 12: 42 New
    +4
    Judging by the photo, although I'm not a physiognomist, Svidomo.
  23. Kelwin
    Kelwin 20 November 2017 12: 43 New
    +5
    For some reason I want to spit in my face.
  24. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 20 November 2017 12: 44 New
    +9
    My grandfather near Stalingrad from these innocent people was seriously wounded while defending his country. Who called them to us? And who is this uro..a sent to speak? The Germans must apologize for the genocide of the Soviet people, for a destroyed country, destroyed cities and villages.
  25. Fedorov
    Fedorov 20 November 2017 12: 44 New
    14
    16 years old kid, the brain should have appeared. He will be in the army soon .. Parents would have a pill and a native school. sad And it’s time for the State to take care specifically, otherwise you will look at polls on the streets of youth — shame and nothing more, they don’t know and don’t want nichrome. I will not say anything about reading books ...
    1. hohkn
      hohkn 20 November 2017 15: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Fedorov
      16 years old kid, the brain should have appeared. He will be in the army soon ..

      I think this wimp will not go to the army. His parents have already prepared a different path. A civil service with the prospect of high posts or a sickly business. The army does not fit here sideways.
  26. 1536
    1536 20 November 2017 12: 46 New
    +3
    No wonder GDP called the events in Ukraine that occurred in the 2014-th year, "false start." And so it is, the "non-brothers" hastened. And here the Crimea with its referendum braked the start of a real "race". But still ahead, apparently, looking at this report from the German parliament.
  27. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 20 November 2017 12: 46 New
    19
    My older relatives told how during the blockade my mother with a frostbitten face, hungry lay under the images and was preparing to die, only the parcel from the front saved her. And then IT was found that accuses my country of how difficult it was for captive Germans to live, as if we ourselves had invited the Germans to fight with us, and as if the Russian people at the same time were eating themselves up in Kopeisk. By the way, our government was not so cruel to captured Germans. During my work in Germany an old man met me who was captured. All the time he asked me to find a certain Marusya, who was a cook in the camp in Perm, apparently falling short. Russian people are resourceful, but it’s criminal to build speculation on this. Special thanks to our liberal democrats who raised this tolerant crap for another spit in our country.
  28. Masya masya
    Masya masya 20 November 2017 12: 48 New
    11
    I understand that both the school and the teachers ... but where are the parents? Who should invest brains?
  29. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 20 November 2017 12: 52 New
    +3
    Here is the answer to Alexander Rogers on his statements about the magnificence of power in the Russian Federation and that we (the Russians) snickered! A killer argument, you will not say anything.
  30. HMR333
    HMR333 20 November 2017 12: 54 New
    +1
    how many people here the only fiction writes is to blame for the fact that such a vegetable grew not the president, he is one in millions but parents and teachers who are directly involved in the upbringing! and enough for you to look for the extremes as in a diamond hand it’s not her fault it’s all the GDP!
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  32. senima56
    senima56 20 November 2017 12: 56 New
    +3
    He’s not on the street, he blurted out in the company of friends! This is said at an official event! They will listen to such a young man .... and decide that in Russia all young people think so! Horror!
  33. beeper
    beeper 20 November 2017 12: 56 New
    +3
    Apparently a “flexible” student expects to receive a grant for “cookies with dumplings” or “European integration”? wink
  34. raw174
    raw174 20 November 2017 12: 58 New
    +9
    The case is blatant, but there is no need to be categorical in the assessment, an investigation must be conducted, this is a crime against the state. Here both the president and the reform of education were pulled together, not going to blame and defend either the first or the second I will say that first you need to determine who prepared the report for the boy (I didn’t read the modern history textbook, but I don’t think it is written there), I think his teacher from a gymnasium, in a company with some kind of specialist in international relations ... It’s necessary to see what kind of people these are, education in the West will probably come up (extension courses, exchange courses, etc.), their income ... A thorough check and tough fair punishment, well, of parents, for prevention to bring to justice, administratively.
    I believe that this is a specific deflection of specific people. It is necessary to punish, so that it would be disgraceful ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 20 New
      +5
      Here both the president and the reform of education were dragged together ... It is necessary to punish so that it would be disgraceful ...
      So the president will not punish those responsible for this speech-crime. And then this will happen again, only in a more terrible version.
      1. raw174
        raw174 20 November 2017 14: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Gardamir
        So the president will not punish those responsible for this speech-crime.

        belay and since when did the president punish citizens for criminal and administrative crimes? He should not interfere, here the matter is the level of the district / regional prosecutor's office.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 20 November 2017 14: 46 New
          +2
          and since when did the president punish citizens for criminal and administrative crimes?
          yes constantly, then Khodorkovsky will be released, then the woman will be punished with a guide for SMS. But here it’s not necessary to reduce everything to the city level, such a trip upstairs was decided, maybe Medinsky himself wrote the text, or who else? ..
          1. raw174
            raw174 20 November 2017 14: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: Gardamir
            then Khodorkovsky will let go

            But the pardon is his competence, they write a petition addressed to the president ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            such a trip up was decided

            at the top no higher than the regional ... We are schoolchildren, sent to Kazakhstan to exchange experiences at the district level. Here, of course, the event is more official, so the area, but not higher ...
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 20 November 2017 15: 01 New
              +1
              at the top no higher than the regional.
              it is still not known exactly, but the tracks lead to GAZPROM, which also contains the Echo of Moscow.
              1. raw174
                raw174 21 November 2017 07: 11 New
                +3
                Quote: Gardamir
                it is still not known exactly, but the traces lead to GAZPROM

                Well, let's see ... Checks sort of go. I repeat, I consider this to be the selfish issue of specific people paid for by the action.
                Quote: Gardamir
                which also contains the Echo of Moscow.

                Well, there is not only Gazprom there, there are also grants from the government and near-governmental organizations ... But how else, in the country someone should give a different picture, someone should look from the opposite side, so let it be people under control, on a salary .. .
      2. Sergey53
        Sergey53 20 November 2017 14: 48 New
        +2
        What a punishment. At the talk show, you don’t see what kind of experts from higher education, economics and all crap. Some liberals supporting the United States in all its poses?
      3. albert
        albert 20 November 2017 19: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Gardamir
        And then this will happen again, only in a more terrible version.

        Exactly. We all mocked “when are we going to erect monuments to Hitler?”. Apparently it’s not going to be funny at all. They will start small.
  35. nnz226
    nnz226 20 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +3
    Here is the result of the reform of education and the exam !!! It is necessary to punish not the schoolboy and his history teacher, but the previous education ministers !!! To publicly repent before the Russian people for their wrecking ...
    1. raw174
      raw174 20 November 2017 14: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: nnz226
      It is necessary to punish not the schoolboy and his history teacher, but the previous education ministers !!!

      Do you think this is a school curriculum? And I think that this is the selfish business of the specific people who made up the report.
  36. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 20 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +5
    The boy paved his way to the west with his fifth point, now he will be licked and made an honorary citizen and no green card will be needed. I hope, living in a well-fed Germany, he will find the time and visit Buchenwald, maybe then some kind of enlightenment will come in his brains.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 20 November 2017 13: 26 New
      +7
      It would not hurt to place animators in SS uniform with dogs in Buchenwald. And for those who want to plunge into that reality, dress in a striped uniform, place them in blocks on wooden plank beds with a kapo at the entrance, feed a week with a rundown of rutabaga, drive them to work, and then on the list. And in a week, no less, already for BABS, to be released WITH PURE CONSCIENCE TO WILL. I am sure that many would have a historical memory refreshed.
    2. asavchenko59
      asavchenko59 20 November 2017 14: 03 New
      +1
      only the Army is able to knock out nonsense from the head of such ov .....
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 November 2017 14: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: asavchenko59
        only the army is able to knock out nonsense from the head of such ov .....

        unlikely to be embittered at all
        he would have to organize a tour of the concentration camps, let Tanya Savicheva's diary read
    3. raw174
      raw174 20 November 2017 14: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      I hope, living in a well-fed Germany, he will find the time and visit Buchenwald, maybe then some kind of enlightenment will come in his brains.

      There they will tell him about how they saved people from the Communists, guarding them with a fence and arranging fun tea parties, and the Soviet died in batches from eating ...
  37. 1536
    1536 20 November 2017 13: 02 New
    +5
    Quote: Logall
    I am joining! We cut the Soviet education, introduced an incomprehensible system ... So they waited!
    We praise Soviet education all the time, and introduce some kind of Singaporean ...

    Why is it Singapore? Singaporeans love their homeland. Groom and cherish. And their education is not bad. You can imagine a Singaporean schoolboy who (hypothetically) came to the parliament of a foreign, once hostile country, on the orders of the leadership of which millions of Singaporeans were destroyed with such a howl “penitent speech”. I cant.
    1. reservist
      reservist 20 November 2017 15: 13 New
      +1
      I also ...
      the state of Singapore recently just turned 50 ...
      there are only a few million of them living on the island and they did not fight in such a way as to consider millions of losses ...
  38. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 November 2017 13: 03 New
    +7
    Of the young, yes the early. In licked, then. I have already paved the path for myself into the future. The trouble came, from where they did not wait. Our children may not be ours. And where is our Young Guard and other inventions of United Russia. Unwind the loot and deflate. And some of the activists generally settled in the west.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 23 November 2017 10: 15 New
      +3
      But who knows where all these young guards are. And it’s not even guilty of teaching history from worthless textbooks. There is no ideology in the country. Not just - official, - not at all. But it was ideology that required education - to teach from kindergarten that our country is the fairest, that we defeated the Nazis, that we are building a better society. Then there were the Oktyabrat, pioneers, the Komsomol. I am not saying that all this is correct and good in the sense of ideology. But method, method !!!! from birth - an assessment of the world, country and child in it. Yes, so you can cultivate any idea, fascism, for example. But this method is universal. And it is up to Russia to take the right direction. And without a lie.
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 23 November 2017 10: 35 New
        +1
        I support. The ideology and postulates of morality should be spelled out in the Constitution, and their implementation in laws.
  39. Awaz
    Awaz 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
    +1
    I say again, the new history textbooks, being introduced into the educational system, are quite adequate and have already moved away from the liberal-fascist assessments of the events of the past of Russia
  40. Tarasios
    Tarasios 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
    +1
    The case when pionEry consider themselves dofiga smart ... Sadness ...
  41. Nemesis
    Nemesis 20 November 2017 13: 05 New
    +8
    The nationality of the student is Ukrainian ... and the reason for such a statement is Russophobia, not specifically taken by the student, but his family and the circles this family belongs to ... They played in the Kremlin in democracy .... Russophobes have no place in Russia, but who does not punish Russophobia in Russia has no place in the Kremlin, the Senate and the Duma ... This schoolchild is a typical Russophobia-sick foreigner, Russians, in the Baltic States, for much less, passports were NOT CITIZENS ... All these Toge Russians and their brothers should take the oath of allegiance Russia, as it is customary to obtain US citizenship, and those who refuse to issue passports are NOT CITIZENS ...
    1. Elevator
      Elevator in the building 20 November 2017 13: 38 New
      +5
      Yes, it’s not a matter of nationality! I was also born in Zaporozhye, and so what? Hatred of the Nazis at the genetic level is not that of me, the great-grandson of Soviet soldiers, but also of my son, who have never seen my great-grandfather or grandfathers and grandmothers, unfortunately. Books for the child must be read correctly, about the pioneers of heroes, about the war in which we were destroyed, about traitors. And only then in # bl # dkov there will be no !! And one should ask for this “speech” not only from these slogans, but also from parents, teachers, and especially from those who prepared this diversion! This is not just a disease, it is gangrene! Eat the fruits of neo liberalism ..
      PS Although I agree that these “one children” are not worthy of full citizenship of Russia.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 20 November 2017 14: 50 New
        +1
        You know, speaking in purity, we now have different countries, different historical Homelands, and this Motherland has different heroes. If this guy thinks of himself as a patriot of Ukraine and Bandera, and that’s exactly so, then in the Russian Federation such as he does not belong. In Russia, Bandera is not a hero, and Russia is not for Bandera. That’s why I wrote that everyone who does not belong to the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation should take an oath of allegiance to Russia, upon obtaining Russian citizenship, as is customary in the United States, upon obtaining US citizenship, and those who refuse, passports are NOT CITIZENS of the Russian Federation.
        1. Elevator
          Elevator in the building 21 November 2017 14: 05 New
          +1
          Hahahaha .. Sobchak first take an oath, but rather Chubais ... "Indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation" - what are these? Only Russians? Or plus Belarusians? Tatars are also an indigenous people. And the Jews. And the Chukchi. And even the Germans. Ukrainians-not ..? Have you ever read on the network how many peoples, "big and small" live in the territory of the Russian Federation. And, to your displeasure, they are all fundamental for a long time, due to the specifics of the development of both the Russian Empire and the USSR.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 21 November 2017 17: 02 New
            +1
            The indigenous peoples of Russia are those that do not have their own states independent of the Russian Federation, and I wrote above about Sobchak and her kind ..... In Afghanistan, 60% of Pashtuns and no one doubts that they are the masters of Afghanistan ... I see no reason why it should be different in Russia ... In Russia, 84% of Russians and Russophobes in Russia have no place ...
            1. Elevator
              Elevator in the building 22 November 2017 00: 35 New
              +1
              You’ll go to Sakha-Yakutia to see how these “indigenous” Russians are being crowded out everywhere, and what’s Russian, everyone from the “great people olonkho” gets a quiet glanders ..
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 22 November 2017 06: 59 New
                +2
                After the Russians were expelled and expelled from the republics of the former scoop with impunity, and the Russian government turned Russia into a passage yard for foreigners suffering from Russophobia, this whole mess started, but that doesn’t mean that it needs to be put up with. The Russians have nowhere to leave, they have only their Russia ... National and migration policy, this is one of the reasons why I do not support GDP .... and his party. In the USSR, they relied on nationalities and nationalities, with their Russophobia, they ruined the USSR ... All sorts of Latvia to this day shout that they supposedly fed the whole USSR ... I do not consider people who put monuments to Yeltsin to be patriots of Russia ... this is the second reason why I do not support GDP ... and the company.
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 23 November 2017 10: 17 New
          +2
          I mean - Ukrainians are not the indigenous peoples of Russia ?! Yes, this is Little Russia, part of large Russia. Like it or not.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 23 November 2017 10: 42 New
            +1
            Modern Ukraine is a country with Russophobia ... Ukraine is a rebellious province of Poland, which came to Russia in 1654, and then rushed, then to Russia, then to the Poles ... The son of Khmelnitsky, after his death, served precisely Poland. ..A Little Russia, which exists only in your head, disappeared in the 13th century, when even the Metropolitan left Kiev for Kiev, and Kiev became a Catholic Polish village ...
  42. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 20 November 2017 13: 15 New
    +3
    Nemtsov's successor, however, is growing up. I would have flogged this together with his parents to the same camp, where the long-suffering Georg Rau and his comrades rested from military affairs. And the documentary shots of the chronicles of those years, German, Soviet, American, mostly related to concentration camps, punitive actions in the occupied territories were scrolled to the cultural program for the cultural program.
  43. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 18 New
    +4
    Question to the lovers of the president, make a list of what he is responsible for. Yeltsin also destroyed the country, this is the fifth column, and Democrats mixed vodka for him. And Chubais is not to blame for anything, it's all the State Department. And Gorbachev had nothing to do with it, it was his girlfriend Margaret who led astray.
    By the way, a new joke about Putin. He joined the Crimea so that there would be monuments to the kings.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 20 November 2017 13: 20 New
      +1
      Read the Constitution and do not fantasize.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 November 2017 13: 25 New
        +3
        Read the Constitution
        I, unlike you, Mr. hater of Russia, I know the Constitution. Where in the Constitution it is said about repentance to the Poles? Although the president himself proclaimed patriotism an ideology.
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  45. Altona
    Altona 20 November 2017 13: 25 New
    +4
    This is not the schoolboy Kolya Desyatnichenko, but the Hitler Youth Klaus Zintel. I painted the rest in Tuittor. And inappropriate words too.
    1. Altona
      Altona 20 November 2017 20: 09 New
      +3

      Speech schoolboy Kolya in the Bundestag.
  46. Romanenko
    Romanenko 20 November 2017 13: 26 New
    +5
    It’s a significant event, but they didn’t take these schoolchildren from the street, the question is certainly not for them, questions addressed to representatives of the authorities — the guys played the kickbacks, all investments and super projects, counted everything for money.
    And here you have the first berries, and not the first ones, skinheads seemed to come from a couple of yards ....
    It’s time to thoroughly clean the Dumaks with delopoots thoroughly and take up the formation of the Russian worldview, which for almost three decades has been destroyed by our servant folk-bodies foreign under the dictation of pin-dos.
    It's time, otherwise somehow we wake up on the Maidan.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 20 November 2017 21: 00 New
      +1
      Why are you going so far? Presidential Sobchach is about to gather right now. Is she better than this \ I don’t know what to call \.?
  47. pvv113
    pvv113 20 November 2017 13: 28 New
    +6
    great-grandfather allegedly told him personally what difficulties German soldiers experienced in Soviet captivity experienced

    And what did great-grandfather in captivity do? Or a policeman himself?
  48. Enoch
    Enoch 20 November 2017 13: 29 New
    +3
    Under liberalism, there are no borders in lies and hypocrisy. It is a pity that this rust absorbs children. A country without ideology, Thank God not all.
  49. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 20 November 2017 13: 31 New
    +2
    It is on such "comrades" that Navalny, the political pedophile, is counting.
  50. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 20 November 2017 13: 31 New
    +1
    To study history in schools and at this age is now not held in high esteem. In my personal experience, history books were not interesting to me, I did not touch them. I read historical novels, if time is interesting, I dig deeper and, accordingly, vice versa. Most often, at this age, they are simply self-taught. And about what he said ... Carrying such things on the platform in the Federal Republic of Germany is nonsense, but the point of view has the right to life, after all, the Wehrmacht, where there was general conscription, and an argument like "could have hidden and defected ! " does not count, because there is a contingent that clearly does not approve of desertion and coughing up. Although who knows ...