A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"

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The scandal erupted around the performance of a group of Russian schoolchildren in front of German parliamentarians in the session hall of the Bundestag. Russian students from New Urengoy were invited to Berlin as part of the Russian-German government partnership program. The student of the gymnasium Desyatnichenko Nikolay presented his message to the audience. What he told raises questions not so much to the youngest person, but to the one who prepared him for this speech.

According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."



Considering the example of one of the Nazi soldiers (Georg Johanna Rau), who died in captivity in 1943, Nikolay Desyatnichenko told the German deputies that Georg, like many other soldiers, is in fact not at fault for finding themselves on Stalingrad land, since "Did not want to fight." The student reported that his great-grandfather allegedly told him personally what difficulties the German soldiers had in Soviet captivity.

From the message of the Russian student:
History Georg and work on the project touched me and pushed me to visit the burial of Wehrmacht soldiers near Kopeysk. It upset me. I saw the graves of innocent peopleamong whom many wanted to live in peace, did not want to fight. They experienced incredible difficulties during the war, which my great-grandfather told me about.


The Nazi soldiers, the occupiers who swore allegiance to the Nazi leadership, were called schoolchildren from New Urengoy "innocent people who had died." The question arises as to who the great-grandfather of the schoolboy was and who the history teacher was Nicholas, who thought the 16-year-old young man had thought that the invaders were innocent victims.

The full version of the speech of N. Desyatnichenko and other representatives of the delegation of Russian schoolchildren in the Bundestag is presented on the video:

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  1. +129
    20 November 2017 12: 22
    A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"
    Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.
    1. +49
      20 November 2017 12: 25
      Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

      ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?
      1. +91
        20 November 2017 12: 30
        and he did not appoint the Minister of Education? And for 17 years of the country's development, he does not bear any responsibility? The boy - it is clear that under Putin he went to school. Well, if it does not - then of course nothing to do with it)))
        1. +64
          20 November 2017 12: 42
          I am joining! We cut the Soviet education, introduced an incomprehensible system ... So they waited!
          We praise Soviet education all the time, and introduce some kind of Singaporean ...
          1. +44
            20 November 2017 13: 24
            This is how our liberalism works. The boy must be taken to a concentration camp for Soviet prisoners of war, if there is a brain, then something can click through? I won’t be surprised if this is part of the anti-Russian propaganda paid from the west.

            1. +25
              20 November 2017 13: 33
              "The mayor of Novy Urengoy interceded for a schoolboy who pity the Wehrmacht soldier" - https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
              D1%82%D0%B8/1062129/mer_novogho_urienghoia_zastup
              ilsia_za_shkolnika_pozhalievshiegho_soldat_vierma
              khta

              It is interesting.
              The mayor of Novy Urengoy, Kostogriz Ivan Ivanovich graduated from the Higher Komsomol School at the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history,
              qualification "teacher of history".
              In 1989, he was approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Party Committee.
              Tsey flop from Ukraine.
              To whom do we justify fascism, if not to him?
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              2. +3
                20 November 2017 14: 00
                Quote: Nikolai S.
                Who do we justify fascism, if not him

                Quote: Nikolai S.
                graduated from the Higher Komsomol school under the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history,
                qualification “teacher of history, approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Committee of the CPSU.
                laughing
                1. +25
                  20 November 2017 15: 13
                  Quote: verner1967
                  verner1967 Today, 14:00 ↑

                  You got busy, how do you seem to be propaganda from the opposite. Mol all the Communists are to blame ... without noticing, or specifically, that in this way you are promoting the justification of Nazism, along with this schoolboy?
                  Well, the political instructor killed by the Nazis in Pletzensee will answer you.

                  Musa Jalil’s poem "Stockings"
                  They were shot at dawn.
                  When the darkness was still white
                  There were women and children
                  And this girl was.
                  First they told them to undress,
                  Then to the cliff become your back,
                  And suddenly a child's voice came
                  Naive, clean and lively:
                  -Take off my stockings too, uncle?
                  Without reproaching, not scolding
                  Looking straight into the soul looking
                  Three year old girl's eyes.
                  "Stockings too ..?"
                  And with confusion the SS man is embraced.
                  The hand itself is excited
                  Suddenly lowers the machine.
                  And again bound by the eyes of children
                  And it seems that it is rooted in the ground.
                  "Eyes like my Duck" -
                  In turmoil of vague uttered,
                  Fanned by involuntary trembling.
                  Not! He cannot kill her,
                  But he gave the line in a hurry ...
                  Fell girl in stockings.
                  Did not have time to remove, could not.
                  Soldier, soldier, and if daughter
                  Your here would be so laid down
                  And that little heart
                  Pierced by your bullet.
                  You are not just a German man
                  You are a terrible beast among people.
                  Chagall the SS man stubbornly
                  Chagall, without raising his eyes.
                  For the first time this thought can
                  In the consciousness of poisoned lighted up,
                  And again the gaze glowed for children
                  And heard again,
                  And will not be forgotten forever
                  "STOCKINGS, UNCLE, ALSO REMOVE?"

                  Continue your disgusting activity in fact ...

                  The young man became famous.

                  To all of Russia.

                  Apparently, the educational institution in which the young man is taught is elite.

                  But it produces biomass.

                  Because - unconsciousness ...

                  For the local literature teachers, this is a testimony of a contemporary who had to live through something that the current bio-garbage has no idea about, but for which he readily repents.
                  Mikhail Svetlov.
                  Italian
                  A black cross on the chest of an Italian

                  No carving, no pattern, no gloss, -

                  A poor family stored

                  And the only son wears ...

                  A young native of Naples!

                  What left you in Russia on the field?

                  Why couldn't you be happy

                  Over native famous bay?

                  I who killed you under Mozdok

                  So dreamed of a distant volcano!

                  How I dreamed about the Volga

                  Take a ride in the gondola just once!

                  But I didn’t come with a gun

                  Take away the Italian summer

                  But my bullets didn’t whistle

                  Above the holy land of Raphael!

                  Here I shot! Here where I was born

                  Where I was proud of myself and my friends,

                  Where epics about our peoples

                  Never sound in translations.

                  Is Middle Don Bend

                  Studied by foreign scientists?

                  Our land - Russia, Rasey -

                  Have you opened and planted?

                  Not! You brought in echelon

                  To capture distant colonies,

                  To cross from the casket from the family

                  Grew up to the size of a grave ...

                  I will not let my country take out

                  For the vastness of the foreign seas!

                  I shoot - and there is no justice

                  More fair than my bullet!

                  You have never lived here and have never been! ..

                  But scattered in the snow fields

                  Italian blue sky

                  Glazed in the dead eyes ...

                  1943

                  Stanzas of the century. Anthology of Russian poetry.

                  Comp. E. Yevtushenko.

                  Minsk, Moscow: Polyfact, 1995.
                  1. +8
                    20 November 2017 15: 38
                    Good poems.
                  2. +9
                    20 November 2017 15: 58
                    Not the first time I read (hear) and every time a lump in my throat ...
                  3. +2
                    20 November 2017 18: 34
                    Quote: badens1111
                    they say all the Communists are to blame ... without noticing, or specifically, that in this way you are promoting the justification of Nazism

                    Is your world divided only into Nazis and Communists?
                    Quote: badens1111
                    Well, the political instructor killed by the Nazis in Pletzensee will answer you.

                    and do not confuse party functionaries with ordinary communists who honestly performed their duty, my father was a communist and grandfather too, just ordinary communists. You’re plus for the verse (but it’s not yours), for the conclusions it’s minus (but not to be put), therefore I will refrain.
                    1. +4
                      20 November 2017 19: 38
                      Quote: verner1967
                      Is your world divided only into Nazis and Communists?

                      Unlike your monochrome vision, I have it is somewhat more diverse.
                      But that’s what you do not see at point blank range and in your dazzle you heal an outright abomination, I see.
                      Here is the answer to you, who and how, Yu
                      brought education to the pen and who specifically prepared this schoolboy.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUogMgPf5s
                      Quote: verner1967
                      my father was a communist and grandfather too, just ordinary communists

                      And why do you disgrace them? My tongue will not turn out, to throw at least a small part of what you have been talking about here about my grandfathers and father.
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2017 19: 43
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Unlike your monochrome vision, I have it is somewhat more diverse.

                        something is not noticeable in your statements, like someone who disagrees with the Communists, so immediately the Nazi
                        Quote: badens1111
                        And what do you dishonor them?

                        How am I to disgrace them? Facts.
                        Quote: badens1111
                        My tongue will not turn out, to throw at least a small part of what you are talking about here about my grandfathers and father.

                        were they party functionaries?
                      2. +2
                        20 November 2017 20: 52
                        Quote: verner1967
                        were they party functionaries?

                        They were OFFICERS.
              3. +17
                20 November 2017 14: 09
                Novy Urengoy - Whose Patrimony? Boy is not just a talking head, boy
                the conductor of the worldview of uncle moneybags, gymnasium - a hotbed of new
                liberal worldview.
              4. +15
                20 November 2017 14: 18
                I also have a Ukrainian last name, albeit by husband. But I also have Ukrainians in my ancestors, this is not uncommon among the Kubans. Do you think people with a Ukrainian surname are immediately suspicious? Think a little bit.
            2. +4
              20 November 2017 14: 29
              I read the comments of the cheers-patriots, adherents of the Communists and am amazed. Is it really that Putin said the schoolboy is guilty? Then Stalin was to blame for the fact that 5.3 million of our troops surrendered during the Great Patriotic War. And Stalin is to blame for the fact that almost a million of our compatriots fought on the side of the Germans. And the CPSU is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, that the Russians were persecuted and destroyed in many Union republics. After all, education ministers were appointed by the General Secretaries. Reading shamelessly and disgusting some thoughtless comments. (or maybe just specially written, soon the presidential election and some really want to throw Putin).
              1. +13
                20 November 2017 14: 42
                and Putin, including, the commander always bears responsibility ...
                1. +1
                  20 November 2017 21: 41
                  Quote: faiver
                  Putin, including, the commander always bears responsibility ...

                  We continue to unravel the N. Urengoy cube. Another son of Yavorsky, a teacher of a schoolboy, Yavorsky Ostap Olegovich, that is, the brother of the Kiev punisher. He teaches in the same gymnasium as his mother, history and social studies. Social science! Charles! Finalist of the 2014 Teacher of the Year contest. Sweet family ...
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              3. 0
                20 November 2017 14: 58
                Quote: captain
                I keep the comments of the cheers, the followers of the Communists and am amazed. Is it really that Putin said the schoolboy is guilty?

                You are right responsible for everyone who chooses our power, which allows educating ignorant anti-Soviet
              4. +6
                20 November 2017 15: 03
                on the side of the Germans actually fought within 100 thousand Soviet citizens. A maximum of 150 thousand. All the rest who fought were mostly former citizens of the Russian Empire. The so-called ChiVi, they did not fight. It is worth recalling that the French alone on the Soviet-German front killed about 200 thousand people.
              5. +6
                20 November 2017 15: 44
                Freely, captain!
                Get a cookie
              6. +1
                20 November 2017 15: 53
                throw off Putin and lie under s, it seems they forgot that in the 90s they already went to bed. Although ... the State Department to spend hundreds of millions on trolls in the Russian media, so these "writers": nothing personal, just work ...
              7. +6
                20 November 2017 17: 08
                Quote: captain
                I read the comments of the cheers patriots

                Yours or what? Yours and the justification of Hitler and the Nazis .. not ashamed?
                Quote: captain
                Reading shamelessly and disgusting some thoughtless comments. (or maybe just specially written, soon the presidential election and some really want to throw Putin).

                Are you talking about yourself? Really ... it's a shame, a former member of the CPSU, and you were him, to write what you write in defense of the Nazis, in support of this schoolboy.
              8. +9
                20 November 2017 18: 37
                Quote: captain
                Then Stalin is to blame

                Rotmister, you are exactly from the same company as this shkololo. The anti-adviser is always Russophobe, this formula, as I was convinced, is mathematically accurate.
              9. +2
                20 November 2017 23: 13
                captain And the CPSU is to blame for the collapse of the USSR, that the Russians were persecuted and destroyed in many Union republics.

                Yes, it’s useless to talk about it with the Communists, they will always find the culprits, only not themselves until the last communist dies, and these conversations about the current will ruin the Great USSR, forgetting to point to which RI ruined it before, and then drank the USSR ...

                What is common between:
                - minors succumbed to provocation of adults (not necessarily for money, it would be better if he said it for money, otherwise I do not envy our Society) or is this his personal opinion,
                и
                - comrade Gorbachev, who dismissed the ATS, the CMEA, and gave unification to the two Germanys, did not receive any dividends for the USSR;
                and comrade BNE transferring the entire Russian stock of weapons-grade uranium to the United States?

                Which of them is worse and more harmful to the Russian Federation?

                We must pray to God that such "children" do not join the ranks of the "unsystematic" opposition, otherwise, the Maidan in Ukraine in the future will seem to us a children's party ...

                Here on the forum, they are ready to kill and insult each other, only for a different point of view, a little more and we will "mature" to go out into the yard ... by killing each other ...
            3. +3
              20 November 2017 19: 34
              Quote: figvam
              The boy must be taken to a concentration camp for Soviet prisoners of war, if there is a brain, then something can click through? I won’t be surprised if this is part of the anti-Russian propaganda paid from the west.

              Not only the West.
              Then A. Gasparyan was given out by a history teacher who was preparing a scholar for this report, has a son who is fighting in the ATO on the side of punishers ..
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUogMgPf5s
            4. 0
              21 November 2017 04: 36
              Well, in something he is right, there is a Wehrmacht, and there are thugs from ss. But in fact, the Wehrmacht soldiers are ordinary citizens of Germany called up for military service, no one gave them a choice
              1. +4
                21 November 2017 09: 27
                Quote: Clever man
                But in fact, the Wehrmacht soldiers are ordinary citizens of Germany called up for military service, no one gave them a choice

                This is not counting the Wehrmacht order, signed by Keitel, on the eve of the invasion of the USSR, which issued indulgence to any soldier who committed a crime on the territory of the USSR.
                This order has no relation to Croats, Hungarians and Finns. But those, in the bulk, tried to beat the thugs from the SS.
          2. +5
            20 November 2017 14: 11
            There used to be an education that provided extensive knowledge, and now there are narrowly focused "projects." Moreover, directed "where necessary" ...
        2. +23
          20 November 2017 12: 44
          Responsibility - on us at all, do not turn away! Hiding from responsibility for others is ugly.
          1. +12
            20 November 2017 12: 54
            Responsibility for supporting such a power, go to the polls!
            1. +14
              20 November 2017 14: 17
              No need to turn the situation in its liberal side. Responsibility for passing by very often. Responsibility for our indifference, for the thought that someone else will definitely do, and I'm in a hurry. And power has nothing to do with it. We are to blame!
              If only one real man would come to this schoolboy, he would simply take and show photos of the victims of concentration camps, photos of shot civilians, and even the film “ordinary fascism” by Roma. And would talk. Just talked. Heart-to-heart. As a person with person .... We do not speak with our children. Hiding for work .. Well, so what else do you want from them.
              1. +2
                20 November 2017 17: 34
                Yes, you can even stop a hundred times to poke this squalor with your nose into the facts, but if the SYSTEM educates and educates in this way, nothing can be done! We can only change ourselves!
            2. +2
              20 November 2017 14: 59
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Responsibility for supporting such a power, go to the polls!

              One must go to the polls, this is the only tool, but choose others.
              1. 0
                21 November 2017 08: 22
                I always went! Now I see what it was. Now with all my relatives I will ignore the elections.
        3. +49
          20 November 2017 12: 48
          The question is, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholasthat drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders were innocent victims.

          It's not a secret

          Children, go and get paid. And for denyushku they can sell their homeland. So parents told them that it is possible.
          1. +24
            20 November 2017 12: 51
            Quote: Monos
            The question is, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholasthat drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders were innocent victims.

            It's not a secret

            Children, go and get paid. And for denyushku they can sell their homeland. So parents told them that it is possible.

          2. +10
            20 November 2017 13: 55
            With such indicators of knowledge, in the Soviet school, in the 70s, they would not be winners, but losers.
          3. 0
            21 November 2017 01: 00
            Regional stage olympiads on history. 88b. out of 200b. - prize winner. This is how the region knows history. Prize-winner less than half. Knowledge level.
        4. +24
          20 November 2017 12: 54
          Quote: michey
          The boy - it is clear that under Putin he went to school. Well, if it does not - then of course nothing to do with it)))

          why aren't parents to blame ????? they did not tell him anything about the Second World War? and why do we have everything felled for school ??? Yes, the child spends more time at home than at school !!!! or out of sight out of mind ???
          1. +4
            20 November 2017 14: 02
            Quote: LSA57
            why aren't parents to blame ????? they did not tell him anything about the Second World War?

            Correctly! And then parents were brought up in Soviet society and received the "best in the world" Soviet education.
            1. +9
              20 November 2017 14: 17
              Quote: verner1967
              Correctly! And then parents were brought up in Soviet society and received the "best in the world" Soviet education.

              learn better italian
              these parents were brought up already under the squeals of liberals
              and Soviet education without any quotes was really one of the best
              1. 0
                20 November 2017 18: 43
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                learn better italian

                teach your wife to cook borsch
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                these parents were brought up already under the squeals of liberals

                These parents were taught by Soviet teachers, they still found pioneers and went to Soviet kindergarten. My daughters are almost the same age as him, a little older, but for some reason they do not justify Natsik.
                1. +3
                  20 November 2017 19: 24
                  Quote: verner1967
                  these parents were taught by Soviet teachers, they are also pioneers

                  fifty dollars exchanged, and the mind ..., I remember the same time and remember what they printed and what they carried on the air, I went through it myself, so leave
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2017 19: 44
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    what carried with on air
                    if ether was the best teacher for you, then sorry hi
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    yourself went through it, so leave
                    Excuse me, how did this go? They were carried from the air, or were they printed in the Twinkle? lol
                    1. +1
                      20 November 2017 21: 11
                      Quote: verner1967
                      if ether was the best teacher for you, then excuse me

                      that is, you received the information exclusively in the classroom, neither literature nor mass media gave you anything ?!
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        5. +12
          20 November 2017 13: 03
          I have a child of the same age. So, I myself have witnessed the fact that history textbooks have more or less recently returned to an adequate form. Last year, he received a history textbook and I began to read in between. I really went nuts. It so happened that at one time I studied the history of the civil war and revolution quite tightly and not according to textbooks, but according to eyewitnesses, and I also studied in a Soviet school. But what is written there - the ears immediately wilted. However, in the process of disassembly, it turned out that this textbook was the last edition and now the children are learning a new one. The child was given a textbook by mistake. He changed it and there are completely different estimates. NU is not perfect, but adequate, although everything is casual.
          1. +13
            20 November 2017 14: 27
            My children, too, were studying with shoddy textbooks. And we, the parents, why? My husband's grandfather at Stalingrad also fought. Cavalry. Then the "Poles shoot in the back," then the Bandera attack on the train with the wounded. Everything. On the last photo of him 33 of the year, looks at all 50 - a tired man. A "innocent", of course the Nazis. And we are all guilty! beat them. Teach your children at home; a textbook should convey facts; it’s not able to teach pride or patriotism. And the boy - the demand from adults. He himself did not go there, and the speech was written to him. But! For the sake of justice, I must say - indeed, not all who fought were such villains, although how many were there — who knows. But excuse me - you are fighting on our territory, then you are definitely enemies.
            1. +16
              20 November 2017 14: 55
              I have a daughter with a friend. The girl is Jewish by mother and a little older already. She studied along the trashy textbooks. Duck, like, together with her we went to our native "village" of Kilometers 400 ride in a continuous stream of trucks. Slow and boring. And behind the conversations came the theme of war and the Jews. She was very worried about the Jews for the children. Type for what them and so on. I tried carefully, so as not to frighten, to explain that the Jews started this war and they destroyed such ordinary Jews as it specifically, so that later they would use it for their own selfish purposes. And the fact that many more Russians died than Jews in all of Europe does not bother anyone. And what else . Russians are just for Jews and often died because they resisted fascism. Jews, for the most part, went to the slaughterhouse like cattle. (I apologize for the comparison, but the fact is this) And so no one appreciated that the Russians saved the Jews from total annihilation. She didn’t understand this either.
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                1. +8
                  20 November 2017 18: 33
                  when such reactions occur, this is a guarantee that I correctly raised the topic. Some started stirring ...
                2. +6
                  20 November 2017 18: 36
                  and further . The Bible is a carbon copy of the Jewish Talmuds. So, there this topic is very well disclosed. Read at your leisure ...
              2. +1
                21 November 2017 01: 30
                Yes, of course, the Jews started a war! Only - oh, not to be confused - some Jews started a war so that they would specifically destroy other Jews, and Russians would save Jews, and then blame the Jews for everything! And those Jews whom they destroyed, specifically went to the slaughter, so that the Russians felt sorry for them and specially began to save, so that these Russians died as much as possible. For mercenary purposes.
                So - everyone went to the slaughter, both Jews and Slavs, who were accused of helping the partisans, and all the others - because it was peaceful - PEACEFUL - the population! And those Belarusians who were burned with whole villages also went to slaughter. I wonder how they could resist? It was a war where entire nations were destroyed. The Jews declared that there was their annihilation. Does someone stop the Russians from declaring the same? But were there no Jews in the Soviet army? And the Georgians, Ukrainians, Moldavians, Kalmyks, Uzbeks - of all nations? Or did the Soviet army consist only of Russians? And who has a short memory here?
        6. +5
          20 November 2017 14: 18
          And if this kid goes to Navalny’s circle, then is Putin still to blame? And here are the same kind of bastards that you are eating beer under the windows at night and stsut in the porches - Putin should disperse?
          1. +3
            20 November 2017 16: 09
            Nevertheless, the conditions for the development and formation of Russian society have existed for a very long time and contrary to the opinion of the majority of the country's population, it was under citizen Putin V.V. and his team.
            1. +5
              20 November 2017 17: 20
              Quote: Pax tecum
              Nevertheless, the conditions for the development and formation of Russian society have existed for a very long time and contrary to the opinion of the majority of the country's population, it was under citizen Putin V.V. and his team.

              Yes, you damn zadolbali. Putin has yet to clean out the toilets, sweep the yard from the gobies and wipe your ass after the pot.
              1. +3
                20 November 2017 17: 30
                The phrase "... and his team," please also take into account. For the king is made by the retinue.
                You should not "replay" in your comments, for I will also answer with your words: "Yes, damn it, you are sick of it." Learn to distinguish the ideal from the real.
                1. 0
                  20 November 2017 18: 50
                  Quote: Pax tecum
                  Pax tecum

                  Have you painted the shop already? And washed the elevator?
                  Quote: Pax tecum
                  Learn to distinguish the ideal from the real
        7. +3
          20 November 2017 17: 40
          Quote: michey
          and he did not appoint the Minister of Education? And for 17 years of the country's development, he does not bear any responsibility? The boy - it’s clearly already under Putin went to school

          Schools are different ....
          Teachers too.
          in this case, they are united by the pronunciation of surnames:
          Desyatnichenko - undergrowth
          KononenKO - teacher
          Kostogryz - the mayor of the city, who sent the kid in front of the uninspired "sins" to petition.
          smacks of Bandera, is not it?
        8. +5
          21 November 2017 04: 33
          And the parents of the offspring have nothing to do with it?
      2. +51
        20 November 2017 12: 30
        Quote: aszzz888
        Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.
        1. +14
          20 November 2017 12: 33
          Andrei Yurievich Today, 12:22 the President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          ... and for an incomprehensible student speech from whom?!?!?!?!?!? the same President answers?!?!?!?!?
          1. +11
            20 November 2017 14: 25
            Quote: aszzz888
            ... and for an incomprehensible student speech from whom?!?!?!?!?!? the same President answers?!?!?!?!?

            Do you like to stick to the achievement of the Russian People, who regained the Crimea, love and keep the answer for the activities of the ministers you appointed

            In general, it’s good that my grandfather did not live to see the first poisonous fruits that yielded 17 years of Putin’s liberal policy.
            1. 0
              20 November 2017 16: 48
              Of course, you would serve in the NKVD and shoot any other such ...
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              1. +3
                20 November 2017 18: 51
                Quote: Sharapov
                I am becoming more and more convinced that VO has turned into a bunch of inveterate militant utopian communes. Where are the moderators watching? because they will close the portal on a plausible pretext ....
                Anti-Soviet (Russophobe), chtoli?

                Quote: Sharapov
                . Utopian children, Madonna can’t be instigated in Russia, you need to be in the DPRK.
                Do not think punching - Kim Jong Un betrayed and renounced the ideals of Marxism and its social care, in favor of the pseudo-religious (and therefore non-viable) Juche cult. I use both hands for him when he does not bend under the mattresses. At least it would not hurt him at the same time, at least to bring worms from his soldiers.
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                  1. +6
                    20 November 2017 19: 54
                    where was the komunyak social care? Special shops and special hospitals for party nomenclature - more - no, no .. otherwise - equality and fraternity - PENSION from collective farmers 20 re?
                    but now with you the Democrats, the capitalists are well and pensions for a million and in stores palm milk.
                    And you are not talking about oil about modern Russia?
                  2. +3
                    20 November 2017 20: 06
                    In what place did komunyak have social care?
                    Has Putin already received a free apartment after his service, market man?
                  3. +4
                    20 November 2017 20: 36
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    In what place did komunyak have social care?

                    was there any other, a simple example, tell me why, under the Union, Uzbeks and Tajiks worked for themselves?
                  4. +3
                    20 November 2017 20: 37
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    the rest - equality and fraternity - PENSION from collective farmers 20 re?

                    ?? !!
                    where you read such nonsense ?!
                  5. +2
                    20 November 2017 20: 38
                    Quote: Sharapov
                    There has never been a people and a party united. Otherwise, the USSR would not have collapsed

                    how old are you boy?
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                    1. +2
                      20 November 2017 21: 12
                      Quote: voronbel53
                      you only have a place in a madhouse

                      will not take
          2. +8
            20 November 2017 14: 57
            If this kid said something like that in his yard, then no one would have heard, and this speech was made to the whole World !!! Everyone should answer now !!! You catch the difference!?! am
        2. +16
          20 November 2017 12: 55
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          for all.

          and parents didn’t wipe his nose too. President is to blame ????
        3. +3
          20 November 2017 13: 45
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: aszzz888
          Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

          ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          Is Putin also to blame for the fact that you have hemorrhoids?
        4. SOF
          +3
          20 November 2017 13: 49
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          .... wah, wah, wah !!!!!
          IMPIENT to the president - HOW dare not to read the undergrowth speech before its announcement!
          Little of! Since, according to the anthem of the Russian Federation ("... Stored by God ..."), HE is also responsible for the country (!!!), then IMPIEMENT and HIM !!!
          all IMPIEMENT!
          ... more stars .... How can MORE stars please ...
          right across Lavrov ...
        5. 0
          20 November 2017 13: 52
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          and only such a President is needed.
        6. +11
          20 November 2017 13: 55
          There is such a thing - delegation of authority. In this case, the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, which reports, if I am not mistaken, to D. A. Medvedev. I have no complaints about GDP in terms of rejoicing for historical correctness, especially during the Second World War. It was under him that the active propaganda of heroes-veterans began. Remember what happened in the 90s
        7. +2
          20 November 2017 14: 11
          Yeah ... he is responsible for everything, while not being the power ... If he doesn’t appoint ministers (would you at least read the Constitution, interpretations to it ... or by the "rank" is not supposed to?)))
          1. +6
            20 November 2017 15: 02
            Quote: Makarov
            If he doesn’t appoint ministers (would you at least read the Constitution, interpretations to it ... or is it not supposed to be “ranked?”)))

            Don't you think that you are confusing the cause with the investigation? The minister is first appointed, and then he proposes and implements reforms. Although of course it’s not Vasilyeva’s right now to make a claim for the examinations already introduced ?! It is worth noting that I do not like the current education system. Our children are trained to put ticks correctly, but they don’t lay knowledge in the head, as such ...

            PS
            About the ranks, did not understand at all. I don’t know you, I didn’t insult you in any way, therefore I ask you not to switch to personalities))) Personally, I go here to share my opinion and culturally communicate. If you have a different goal, I ask you not to read or comment on my posts.
            1. +2
              20 November 2017 17: 03
              Well, maybe I’m confusing it, now we’ll try to figure out whether I understand you correctly ... There is one curious fact when comparing reality and constitutional norms there is a dissonance .... everything is written in the Constitution quite understandable and that is surprisingly still in Russian. The President, among other things, shapes the country's domestic policy, but this looks like a very cunning legal "trick" when it comes to the real implementation of his decrees and the implementation of his policies. There are many such examples, especially the economy. My opinion about the education and the fault of the President of the Russian Federation in this: in the educational system and in science as a whole, is a real crisis. With science, I don’t see a better solution than the “Soviet” one (smear money with an even layer and “pull out” breakthroughs based on research results). In the educational system, I would personally add a well-developed program of the practice of applying knowledge to the “Soviet” format. This is a tremendous amount of money and it’s not a fact that the result of these injections will not be toppled “over the hill”. What does the President have to do with education? Well, given that his decrees and his opinions are in fact formal, and the resistance in our country to the development of science and education is enormous, I think the problem is systemic and the course chosen will not change from a change of leader. It is necessary to change the system of relations between authorities. Ie the Constitution. Then any reform of the minister, deputy and head of the district council will have a purpose. And then it will be possible to verify the result of work with a given goal. Without clearly defined goals: who we want to see after the 10th grade, you cannot blame the minister for poor work. It's like blaming bees for making the “wrong honey."
              1. +6
                20 November 2017 17: 14
                Hmm ... So what exactly is the fault of GDP? As far as I remember, he did not give decrees on the reform of education, or is this what you blame him?
                Quote: Makarov
                you cannot blame the minister for poor work. It's like blaming bees for making the “wrong honey."

                I agree, everyone should eat their carrots. However, I wrote about this, referring to the delegation of authority. I believe that in this case, GDP can issue a decree on the need to conduct an audit in the existing education system. It is impossible to say that the chosen path is fundamentally wrong; this will be tantamount to recognizing errors in the adoption of laws and the existing education program. I think in this, from the part there is a snag ...
                1. +1
                  20 November 2017 17: 23
                  I just do not think that Putin is to blame. Moreover, I believe that nothing will change from the change of Putin to any other person in the current state of things. And I see a snag even earlier =) - that his decree is not binding at a certain stage, faced with ... let's say so with an insurmountable barrier of instructions and instructions, or he will simply be ignored by the deliberate intention of officials ...
                  1. +5
                    20 November 2017 18: 20
                    Well, thank God, figured out))) drinks And then I began to think it was a sinful thing that I was turning into a tongue-tied creature that I really could not express a thought ...
                  2. 0
                    20 November 2017 19: 00
                    Quote: Makarov
                    Moreover, I believe that nothing will change from the change of Putin to any other person in the current state of things.

                    I'm still grossly apologizing, but why then push the ideas of the Hubbardists?
                    Especially to argue for high spheres from Germany ???
                    1. +1
                      20 November 2017 19: 05
                      1. What ideas do I “push” from Hubbardists?
                      2. And what can one argue "for high spheres" only from Ryazan?
                      3. I wonder what you think about this informational occasion.
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2017 19: 17
                        Quote: Makarov
                        1. What ideas do I “push” from Hubbardists?

                        Wow! Violet is encrypted!
                        Quote: Makarov
                        2. And what can one argue "for high spheres" only from Ryazan?

                        Attoch! For you, the whole country is Ryazan (a wild hole!).
                        Quote: Makarov
                        3. I wonder what you think about this informational occasion.

                        That you cannot be cured. Only sedatives.
                        The Ryazan clause is very specific.

                        There was such a writer - Romain Rolland. It seems like a good writer, funny, patriot. Do not remember why all of Europe hates him?
                      2. +2
                        20 November 2017 19: 31
                        Well, maybe I can’t be cured because I didn’t need to be treated, didn’t you think about it? I do not answer the question: "What are the ideas of the Hubbardists I" push "?" The answer is "Wow! Purple is encrypted!" of which only the word purple can be attributed to literary speech, which we will directly say neither to the village nor to the city. And whom do you call this "old man" purple? For me, the hole is a wild Pskov. And Ryazan, due to my lack of knowledge of your level of development, I cited as an allegory that characterizes the province in Russia. And again you didn’t answer me: What “for high spheres” can only be said within the borders of the Russian Federation? And what does Romain Rollan (a patriot (?!) is he French or something a patriot) mean that a high school student of a Russian school (!) Called the Wehrmacht soldier "innocent dead people"?
        8. +3
          20 November 2017 14: 26
          And Andrei Yuryevich, is not responsible for anything, Putin is all responsible for him. :)) So if you do not want to answer for anything, then your opinion will always not care. And those who also don’t want to be in their native country support you (plus) you are not responsible for anything, but should be the first to listen to them, since their criticism is the most correct, etc.
          1. +1
            20 November 2017 19: 57
            not responsible for anything, Putin is all responsible for him.
            this is called demagogy. ordinary citizen and head of state, their level of responsibility is different
        9. +4
          20 November 2017 14: 35
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: aszzz888
          Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

          ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

          And who is to blame for the collapse of the USSR? It’s just like you who ruined it, for which everyone is to blame, except for yourself. It is necessary to think over; The president is responsible for everything in the country! What for your son’s not wiped ass?
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          2. +1
            20 November 2017 19: 58
            The president is responsible for everything in the country!
            all leaders were ALWAYS responsible for everything in the country.
        10. 0
          20 November 2017 18: 54
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING.

          Datycho? !! Or an orderly?
      3. +28
        20 November 2017 12: 31
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!?

        Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....
        1. +21
          20 November 2017 12: 53
          And if the GDP has nothing to do with it (Rafik doesn’t have a win-win for anything), a reasonable question arises: Why the hell do we need such a president and such a government if they are not responsible for the results of their WORK?
          1. SOF
            +4
            20 November 2017 14: 25
            To hell with us such a president

            ... well, how is it "to hell" - of course, what would you ask.
            What a cool theme they came up with to search for the extreme ones. And what a wonder! Every second knows who is to blame! What to do, however, is not a tooth kick, but the fish decaying from the head is defined as according to the pattern. Whose templates do we use ???
            But tell me, dear, if a traffic cop from a hangover at the wheel catches you, and he will also begin to hint at a bribe so that you can do nothing:
            1. give a bribe and ... "chur me, chur ... I will not sit behind the wheel anymore" ... eat away;
            2. say gaytsu: "What are you !!! Yes, I am law-abiding!" Call the police inquisition, put the gayts in and hand over the driver’s license to the state guards for a couple of years.
            Answers like: I'm not drunk behind the wheel - do not roll.
            1. +2
              20 November 2017 17: 42
              And if I really say that a drunken driver is not sitting down? Believe it? My motivation is responsibility to others and demand from myself! I apologize for the arrogance.
              1. +1
                20 November 2017 19: 42
                So I do not sit down either. Even somehow SOF discouraged me with such a question.
          2. 0
            20 November 2017 19: 01
            Quote: Neputin
            To hell with us such a president and such a government

            Suitcase, train station, Israel.
            1. 0
              20 November 2017 19: 43
              They won’t take it. Address to "fellow writers", for example to SOF - he asks such questions as God's chosen one.
            2. 0
              21 November 2017 08: 25
              But where will Putin go to Israel! What a honest word you are ..
        2. +12
          20 November 2017 12: 57
          Quote: I doubt it
          Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....

          Well, yes, in the country of devastation, there is no work, there’s nothing to eat, defense at zero. you did not confuse Russia with urkain ???:?
          1. 0
            20 November 2017 19: 48
            As you precisely noticed. In the country, devastation is a fact, there is something to eat, but expensive, and therefore nothing, work in bulk, but they pay a penny, at least lie down with your bones, but you won’t earn more than 35-40 thousand (you need to live at work). But there is no normal work with a decent salary. I don’t know about defense capability, I don’t have to judge, but some facts (for example, the pace of the USC operation, constant accidents in the space industry, etc.) are straining not childishly. But in Ukraine the same thing.
        3. +1
          20 November 2017 13: 13
          Quote: I doubt it
          Yes, he seems to have nothing to do with us ....

          You have nothing to do with it. He is our President.
          1. +1
            21 November 2017 08: 26
            Yes President that sounds proud. Still, there were things besides sounds.
      4. +32
        20 November 2017 12: 32
        Until history will be studied according to the Sorov textbook, this will be so. And this is only the beginning.
        There is no longer a question for the kid, but for the one who "taught" him. Maybe these "teachers" decided to bend before the Germans. And the kid is like a pie, what kind of stuffing they will invest in, he will wear one.
        1. GRF
          +12
          20 November 2017 12: 45
          Quote: Smog
          Until history will be studied according to the Sorov textbook, this will be so. And this is only the beginning.
          There is no longer a question for the kid, but for the one who "taught" him. Maybe these "teachers" decided to bend before the Germans. And the kid is like a pie, what kind of stuffing they will invest in, he will wear one.

          Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.
          Didn’t he watch movies? Didn't read books?
          And even About the Holocaust did not hear? Jews would have thrown him for such things with his entourage ...

          And the fact that textbooks are like that is that we are.
          My children will have a story like this 2.

          Pavlik was at all times, but chewed it somehow ...
          1. +3
            20 November 2017 13: 05
            Quote: GRF
            Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.

            And I did not say that he was not to blame. But still, the question is more to teachers and parents. That we don’t have apple-biscuit fan teachers? There is. Yes, and these parents are also enough. What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies. They know. But ..... make your own conclusion.
            1. +4
              20 November 2017 13: 21
              Quote: Smog
              What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies.

              and who told you that he is for Navalny - maybe from the Nashi movement, just one of their former bumps, recently on Facebook enjoyed the green card of the American
              1. +1
                20 November 2017 13: 38
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                one of their former bump, recently on facebook rejoiced at the green map of the American

                Surname of a cone do not sound?
                1. +4
                  20 November 2017 13: 53
                  Quote: Smog
                  Surname of a cone do not sound?

                  Of course - Maria Drokova!
                  The former commander of the Nashi movement, Maria Drokova, who was awarded the first degree Order of Merit for the Fatherland Order in Russia, received a US green card, which she reported with enthusiasm on her Instagram. “I’m so glad and grateful,” wrote Drokova, “ get a green card and get closer to citizenship in my home country of the USA ”
                  Masha Drokova, born in Tambov, born in 1989. At the age of 15, she joined the pro-Kremlin youth movement Nashi and soon became a federal commissioner and official speaker of the movement. Drokova also became known for kissing Vladimir Putin on the cheek during his visit to Seliger in 2009.
                  1. +1
                    20 November 2017 14: 22
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    Maria Drokova!

                    the girl gained fame for a kiss with Vladimir Putin, but in the end she moved away from pro-government views and went into business, first joining the Acronis company management, and later taking up international PR.

                    What can I say, if only to get a boost. And it doesn’t matter with whom.
                    And here is a freshman from the capital’s non-vital mundep.
                    Yashin at the council of district deputies mocked the saints
                    RIMRIM 18.11.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX
                    At an extraordinary meeting of the Krasnoselsky Council of Deputies, led by a member of Solidarity Ilya Yashin, a scandal occurred. Mundep Ilya Mishchenko, Yashin’s comrade-in-arms, in his speech called Saints Peter and Fevronia a “syphilitic” and “blackmailer”. The video shot at the meeting was published by Moskovskaya Gazeta.

                    Ilya Mishchenko, a junior researcher at the Russian Society for the Conservation and Study of Birds, under the approving smile of Yashin, criticized the project of erecting a monument to Saints Peter and Fevronia of Murom on Bolshaya Sukharevskaya Square.

                    “I consider it inappropriate to erect such a monument. Because nothing is clear from the sources, and even living makes one doubt the moral lifestyle of Peter and Fevronia. Peter himself was sick with syphilis, since he was sleeping with his brother’s wife, after which Fevronia blackmailed him: at first she didn’t completely cure him, and then he cured him, forcing him to marry himself. And when Peter died, he demanded that she die with him, ”Mishchenko said.
                    An attempt to abuse the honor of the saints caused a smile on Yashin's face. He even covered his face when he heard about syphilis. For information of a member of Solidarity and his comrade-in-arms Mishchenko, this disease, brought from America to Europe, was first recorded in Russia in the XNUMXth century. The Mundeps, obviously, are not aware that the lives of the saints and the annals of sources send us back to the beginning of the XNUMXth century.
                    Video upload?
                2. +1
                  20 November 2017 14: 08
                  Enjoy
                  https://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/2017/03/13/12979
                  9-byvshaya-aktivistka-dvizheniya-nashi-poluchila-
                  green card
                3. +3
                  20 November 2017 14: 33
                  Quote: Smog
                  Surname of a cone do not sound?


                  https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/13/drokova/





                  The rats seem to be neglecting from the ship, whose name is "Putin's liberalism"
                  1. +3
                    20 November 2017 14: 36
                    But nothing that this movement stopped its activity five years ago?
                    Quote: Young_Communist
                    rats are not from the ship,

                    And Russia is never on the way with rats .... Let them run. The air will be cleaner.
            2. +1
              20 November 2017 14: 45
              Quote: Smog
              Quote: GRF
              Ignorance does not relieve responsibility.

              And I did not say that he was not to blame. But still, the question is more to teachers and parents. That we don’t have apple-biscuit fan teachers? There is. Yes, and these parents are also enough. What do bulk with ducks have no parents.? Or they don’t know that their children can be detained at unauthorized rallies. They know. But ..... make your own conclusion.

              Did you just read the article, or did you listen to the student too?
              I don’t really like his report precisely because he focused on sensual, personal - with respect to a particular German soldier - moments, and not at all on history. The essence of the event was simple - German schoolchildren made reports about specific Soviet soldiers who died in Germany, Russian - about specific German soldiers who died in Russia. Both of them reported cruel time; about the millstones of war, ruthlessly grind human destinies. There is not even a shadow of an attempt to justify fascism and the inhuman Nazi regime.
              If a schoolboy added a couple of phrases about the Nazi criminals who unleashed this war, the tone of statements on this subject would probably be the opposite.
              A schoolboy who was sympathetic to a particular German soldier should not be harassed - but that we are now harassed and nothing else.
              The Russian people have always been magnanimous to their enemies. And the Germans are no exception. I really want to hope that the student who emotionally showed the generosity of our people to the German people will not suffer from this. hi
              1. +1
                20 November 2017 14: 54
                It is just for the sake of justification that all this is conceived, sympathy for the enemy will end in either having a knife in your back or an enemy’s boot.
                1. 0
                  20 November 2017 15: 37
                  Quote: Sauron80
                  It is just for the sake of justification that all this is conceived, sympathy for the enemy will end in either having a knife in your back or an enemy’s boot.

                  This is hardly the case with the Germans - and they, in fact, are not enemies now, and they still sprinkle their heads with ash, understanding and accepting the guilt of their nation for unleashing the war, and for its many victims.
                  This memorial project aims to reconcile the descendants of the two most uncompromisingly opposing nations. We now have nothing to share with the Germans.
                  And it’s not worth it to record the current Germans as enemies - we have enough enemies already.
              2. 0
                20 November 2017 19: 40
                Quote: andj61
                The essence of the event was simple - German schoolchildren made reports on specific Soviet soldiers who died in Germany, Russian - on specific German soldiers who died in Russia. Both of them reported cruel time; about the millstones of war, ruthlessly grind human destinies. There is not even a shadow of an attempt to justify fascism and the inhuman Nazi regime.

                You know, there were many patriots in the country, only their patriotism led them to different results. Dissidents, insurgents, collaborators and just gangsters. And all of them, even recognizing their patriotism, are not subject to any excuses.
                So the rotten idea itself, by the way, directly arising from the idea of ​​equalization, with the help of some substitution of concepts called tolerance.
                That's just "tolerance" - this is from the Spanish Order of Christ, from the first Jesuits. And in all languages ​​associated with Latin, the meaning will always return to the original - imposition and enslavement.
                And here it is very bad - Russian and Latin have a single structure - up to the ideological series.
          2. +8
            20 November 2017 14: 04
            And he, in addition to textbooks, also looks around himself (I do not mean a specific shrimp, but the whole generation) What do you want if the textbooks say about occupation and genocide, while in the city someone cares for the graves of German soldiers, and Does someone bring flowers to the graves? In summer, a memorial to Japanese soldiers who died in Primorye was reconstructed in the city. City and Seaside officials took part in the opening of this memorial (we have a year of friendship with Japan and Nii Pet). AND NONE OF THEM HAVE BENT OUT, NOBODY REMEMBERED THESE SOLDIERS WERE HERE TO KILL US HERE. And the children, they absorb everything that you sow. And what do our officials sow when erecting monuments to murderers and rapists?
      5. +13
        20 November 2017 12: 50
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        old song in a new way. the cat left the kittens, this is Putin's fault. the wrong report was written to him and he gave the wrong parents
        1. +1
          20 November 2017 13: 50
          Quote: LSA57

          old song in a new way. the cat left the kittens, this is Putin's fault. the wrong report was written to him and he gave the wrong parents
          Well, yes, they’re on the kids.
      6. +23
        20 November 2017 12: 54
        and then what about the GDP?!?
        And who was the first to repent before Poland, the Crimean Tatars? .. Who encourages anti-Soviet hysteria in their country? There has been a meeting between the president and cultural figures. All of them asked to restore the Soviet education system. As always with jokes-jokes sent to hell.
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 13: 22
          Quote: Gardamir
          As always with jokes-jokes sent to hell.

          Cultural figures - who is it by name? Makarevich, Raikin? Diva with implants?
          Quote: Gardamir
          All of them asked to restore the Soviet education system.

          Is someone bothering you? Licensing textbooks, teacher training, total political selection - and go with the song!
          Cho, weak ?! At one time, it took 30-35 years to raise people who were ready to do this. And then it took them 5 to 15 years to transition to the Soviet education system.
          1. +4
            20 November 2017 13: 32
            Is someone bothering you?
            How do you hate Russia!
            Culture is Maceuv, Tsiskaridze ...
            and about textbooks, what can be printed on any collective farm or is this question being addressed at the state level?
            1. +1
              20 November 2017 13: 46
              Quote: Gardamir
              Culture is Maceuv, Tsiskaridze ...

              I do not know at point blank range. I know Katsev.
              Quote: Gardamir
              What can be printed on any collective farm or is this question being addressed at the state level?

              Licens.
              And type at least on a typewriter. Though in the electronica. But they are not. Freshly licensed by state order will be printed for the next school year. And where will they go - ...
              My comrades after the army teach - on Zeya, on Vitim, in Tunka. Lead on several subjects - no teachers. On textbooks agree in any form.
              1. +2
                20 November 2017 14: 27
                I do not know at point blank range
                Why climb into the discussion? To boast of your ignorance?
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      7. +17
        20 November 2017 12: 59
        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or assign it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?]

        Honestly, I’m annoyed when everyone blames Putin. But not at this time.
        The Yeltsin Center, which has become a nest of corruption of minds of such schoolchildren, rectors of all kinds of universities, hammering “European values” into the heads of young people, everything happens from his silent non-participation. Everything is directly threatening the existence of the state, and the president is obliged to intervene in the most immediate way or this is a hello to very sad consequences.
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 19: 51
          Quote: sir_obs
          everything happens with his silent non-participation.

          I would understand if the country was about the size of a lol.
          And since this is not so, then your whole conclusion is a rut.
      8. +16
        20 November 2017 13: 04
        And what about the GDP? Why do I, the dense provincial, understand that the exam is a gloom, and the GDP does not understand it?
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 13: 48
          Quote: Black_Jacket
          I, the dense provincial, understand that the Unified State Examination is darkness,

          And the Minister of Education does not think so ... She does not believe in subject matter.
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      10. +1
        20 November 2017 13: 48
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!?

        about this freaking USE already grind all the language
      11. +2
        20 November 2017 13: 49
        Quote: aszzz888
        Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

        ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        Of course, the king is good, these are bad boyars! As if he did not put them and does not bear responsibility for them.
      12. +2
        20 November 2017 13: 58
        And who is it? “The fish rots from the head,” minobr, this is an office subordinated directly to the Prime Minister and the Prime Minister.
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      14. +8
        20 November 2017 14: 29
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        GDP appoints ministers, including the Minister of Education. In this case, we are talking about Olga Vasilyeva.
        And in this regard, I want to ask this Minister of Education, what kind of vegetable does she do nothing at her post?
        But it was reported that they say the exam passed without a total write-off, etc. It’s necessary, they survived that they put a “framework” on the exams at schools, like at airports, and the guards who each graduate with a metal detector lures. That's where the ministry of education merits. And the fact that the illiterate youth began to spit. The main order in the exam is to ensure that they are not written off.
        For such students here, it is necessary to drive in three necks this Minister of Education, and the school principal and history teacher, who shoved this nonsense into the head, this mediocrity.
        This is a spit on the graves and this kid of grandfathers who fought against fascism. And he does not even understand this. D.B. damn (through yat).
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 19: 56
          Quote: NEXUS
          And in this regard, I want to ask this Minister of Education, what kind of vegetable does she do nothing at her post?

          What do you think, how long does it take for an entire minister to take action on one student? His teachers? Defenders?
          Are you sure that the college is not private? Or do you not know that there are such?
      15. +1
        20 November 2017 14: 31
        The offspring with the family fell the forest in Magadan and at the same time remove all the snow. Minister of Education at the Uranium Mine. Lyceums close, all teachers under investigation.
      16. +6
        20 November 2017 14: 42
        Quote: aszzz888
        and then what about the GDP?!?

        The legal status of the President of Russia is enshrined in the fourth chapter of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. In article 80. The Constitution defines the functions of the President:

        The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state, the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. The President takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities.

        The President defines the main directions of the state’s domestic and foreign policy, represents the Russian Federation within the country and in international relations.
        https://studopedia.ru/11_70254_prezident-rf-ego-f
        unktsii-prava-i-obyazannosti.html
        Now the question is, who from the Ministry of Education was preparing this group? Who in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs coordinated the speech of this shkolota in the Bundestag?
        How did all levels of state power blink clearly in the provocative and Russophobic act of this schoolboy’s speech?
        Why, to this day, the history teachers of this gymnasium, who are sitting on grants of an anti-Russian orientation, work according to their profile, and do not sweep the streets?
        And so it is necessary to do.
        Why does the director of this lyceum still dare to mutter something there, to justify this, and not work as a cleaner at the memorial cemetery of our soldiers forever?
        No, that’s right.
        When there is a PROHIBITION to the profession in the West, is that right, it’s like an attack against freedoms out there, do we need such freedoms and such directly corrupt representatives in the profession, who train traitors directly with boys and girls?
        Still the FSB would be interested in who is there who deftly provoked this provocation.
        https://ura.news/news/1052313136
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 20: 04
          Quote: badens1111
          Who in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs coordinated the performance of this shkolota in the Bundestag?

          So first find out exactly this question. You will be very surprised - NGOs, in addition to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Education.
          Quote: badens1111
          When in the West there is a ban on the profession,

          We have one too. But through the court. If this does not tell you anything, I explain - there is a strictly defined order of appeals, reviews and decisions based on the law. Any deviation, "acceleration of the process" - and everything is canceled, as if carried out in violation of the law.
          Are you doing this?
      17. +6
        20 November 2017 14: 43
        Quote: aszzz888
        . and then what about the GDP?!?

        and he’s nowhere and never with anyone like you. Not for a disfigured education, or for an endangered nation, or for beggarly pensions, or for the dominance of migrants, or for hellish corruption, or for the anti-people’s policies that the government appointed by it, or for e-centers ......, it’s nowhere and never once.
        I join Yurich’s "poisoning" and I also congratulate you.
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 20: 06
          Quote: Stroporez
          and he is with people like you

          I would like to ask, but how many of you are there?
          But you don’t confess.
      18. +5
        20 November 2017 14: 49
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... and then what about the GDP?!? or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

        Yes, nothing to do with, 30 years of anti-Soviet art on the screen, at parades, education, new monuments is an absolutely invisible thing. Fursenko, an innovative educator, is still in advisers and is always there.
    2. +49
      20 November 2017 12: 29
      Lord, we give a nod to the crest, but among the jumpers and horses they grow, such in the future and the Eternal Flame will be poured with cement and they are already taking selfies there. negative
      1. +17
        20 November 2017 12: 41
        I agree with you, Vlad! This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm! sad
        1. +15
          20 November 2017 12: 49
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm!

          It’s Max’s alarm, and it will turn into a funeral bell, well, this idiot, he has clay instead of brains, sculpts that you want and sculpt his future stormtroopers to the joy of Navalny, and the teachers and their head teachers, gorona and other selpo for hell, I wonder where he was great-grandfather of this zats, I’m not talking about parents. negative
          1. +15
            20 November 2017 12: 54
            Quote: 79807420129
            I wonder where was this great-grandfather

            I would not be surprised if my great-grandfather was an electrician and wore two lightnings on a helmet. negative
            1. +6
              20 November 2017 12: 58
              Quote: Jedi
              if the great-grandfather was an electrician and wore two lightnings on a helmet.

              Well, such electricians were usually not taken prisoner, but all sorts of kiwi kiwis are quite.
              1. +3
                20 November 2017 13: 03
                About the helmet, I’m figurative, but you understand what I mean ...
              2. +2
                20 November 2017 13: 27
                Quote: 79807420129
                Well, such electricians were usually not taken prisoner

                Damn, theorists! I found them.
                1. +5
                  20 November 2017 13: 37
                  Quote: sogdy
                  Damn, theorists! I found them.

                  Colleague hi , don’t understand how I want to offend or sarcasm, but forgive me, where and when did you find the SS men? belay Given that I am now 51, the grandson of the war veterans, and now my grandfather himself. hi
                  1. +1
                    20 November 2017 14: 00
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Excuse me, where and when did you find the SS men?
                    I don’t know how sogdy, but as a child in Latvia I saw them who had "served" in good faith. Even then they were the same “innocent,” and now they are generally heroes.
                  2. 0
                    20 November 2017 14: 13
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Given that I am now 51

                    Young man, "25 with promotion" - they built our city. The latter reclined in 78-79.
                    1. +5
                      20 November 2017 19: 23
                      The latter reclined in 78-79.

                      This is apparently especially "loved" our homeland. The soft laws of the "stagnant" period let them go home, now we are reaping the benefits.
        2. +17
          20 November 2017 12: 59
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm!

          Hello Max! hi
          There is another point:
          Russian students from Novy Urengoy invited to Berlin as part of the Russian-German state partnership program.

          That is, one of the government officials selected them, looked through the reports. And ... missed. The disease is deeper than we think. sad
          1. +11
            20 November 2017 13: 05
            Hi Victor! hi
            Quote: Monos
            That is, one of the government officials selected them, looked through the reports. And ... missed. The disease is deeper than we think.

            Not only missed, but could not help but understand what resonance this will cause. It smacks of frank diversion ... No.
            1. +9
              20 November 2017 13: 14
              Quote: Jedi
              Not only missed, but could not help but understand what resonance this will cause.

              There may be such an option that a speech was written to him. They said: "You are now in the cage, we will promote you. Read this. This is a good start to your career. Listen uncle, you will not regret it." And the guy is only 17 years old! How not to "swim"?
              1. +7
                20 November 2017 13: 21
                For this is not something to plant - it is necessary to shoot! The liberals had seen enough of the West rewriting history and decided to try it in Russia. How much can you babysit with such offspring ??? angry
                1. +3
                  20 November 2017 18: 53
                  I hope in Novy Urengoy there are people who will break a couple of dozen bones to this young mankurt. am
                2. +6
                  20 November 2017 19: 26
                  Quote: Jedi
                  The liberals had seen enough of the West rewriting history and decided to try it in Russia

                  I will add
                  1. +6
                    20 November 2017 19: 31
                    And I’ll add

                    When will we begin to apologize to the Ukrainian Nazis? sad
                    1. +3
                      21 November 2017 07: 50
                      Hi Victor! hi Sponsors as to selection - valiant liberal tolerasts! negative
                      Quote: Monos
                      When will we begin to apologize to the Ukrainian Nazis?

                      When the cartridges for the “Cord” are brought up, we’ll immediately “apologize”! angry
          2. 0
            20 November 2017 20: 09
            Quote: Monos
            as part of the Russian-German state partnership program.

            Surprise, but this is not a state program.
            1. +5
              20 November 2017 20: 11
              Quote: sogdy
              Surprise, but this is not a state program.

              So the grant. And I guess whose.
        3. +3
          20 November 2017 21: 29
          Quote: Jedi
          This is no longer an “alarm bell”, but the alarm! sad

          Oh, it would be a funeral march to all that we value.
          And I think that this is the case when very tough measures and speedy education reforms are needed, with the abolition of the USE and the change of the negligent minister to a person of business, of the same formation as Shoigu.
      2. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 50
        what do we want? 30 years of anti-Soviet education and film, a fake anti-Soviet candidate freely rides around the country, to the Yeltsin Center with the excuse of Vlasov, cherry on the cake: https://twitter.com/Urugvayintellig/status/932551
        820165173248
    3. KAV
      +18
      20 November 2017 12: 30
      This is the beginning of the end ... And there will be only more such "enlightened ones". Hurry, reformed the education system! Survived ...
    4. +10
      20 November 2017 12: 31
      Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
      1. +16
        20 November 2017 12: 35
        Yes, yes, he passed by. And so all 17 years.
      2. +19
        20 November 2017 12: 35
        Quote: Azazelo
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.

        And who appointed Medvedev as president? wassat

        More useful TV shows - Let them say, House-2, that there is something about magicians, about judges, about battles ... we will drive people into the herd ...
      3. +13
        20 November 2017 12: 37
        Azazelo
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
        Oh yes! How I like to read that Medvedev is a stronghold of evil! laughing Excuse me (Medvedev), he chose himself for the presidency? Or the Russians have nothing to do with it?
      4. +3
        20 November 2017 12: 54
        Well, yes, he was not prime minister then. Do you generally believe that something in Russia without Putin can be solved? And yes, it’s nothing to do with
      5. +6
        20 November 2017 13: 02
        Hi to Medvedev. PVV did not implement education reform.
        Do you know that false is bad quality? Although it may be for consumers and amateurs of capitalism-liberalism is a blessing. Unified State Examination began to be introduced in 2001. Who do you think was the president?
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 13: 58
          I didn’t notice:
          History - 88 out of 200 - medalist. This miracle will pass the exam?
          Or is it not in the exam, but in the list of exam questions? And this is decided in a completely different place.
          That's just explained for the lady who sponsored the "7th studio" from the Ministry of Culture.
      6. 0
        20 November 2017 14: 52
        they have long been greeted by cinema, from the rolling anti-adviser Navalny, from the liberal government, from the educated Livanov, from the monuments to Kolchak Krasnov, Wrangel, skin and fame to glorious citizens.
    5. +4
      20 November 2017 12: 35
      I don’t know what school programs are now, I didn’t watch, but if a schoolchild says such things, apparently these programs worked very well or were specially worked out. In our Soviet times, this was not allowed. Proposal: To conduct a nationwide discussion of school textbooks, not all, but only on history, literature, and there may be some more and, based on the discussion and proposals made by residents of Russia and neighboring countries, make friendly amendments to these textbooks and over the next 20- 30 do not touch them.
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 14: 01
        Quote: Tatar 174
        I don’t know what school programs are right now, I didn’t watch, but if a schoolchild says such things, apparently these programs worked very well or were specially done.

        This student lit up with Novodvorskaya. Who shouted that it’s not pedagogical to pour green water on children? Yes, flogging is necessary. But also "not pedagogical."
    6. +1
      20 November 2017 12: 36
      Andrei Yurievich Today, 12:22

      ... spoke very correctly, see below. Could Today, 12: 32 ↑
    7. +1
      20 November 2017 12: 47
      democracy takes over ....
    8. +4
      20 November 2017 12: 51
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"
      Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.

      Why are you so worried about a typical Bad Boy Bad Boy? History is as old as the world. Well, the bourgeois will give him a jar of jam. Well, his classmates from Novy Urengoy would envy him (because of jam) (although in theory it would have been better if the Pendels were pressed like a school ryu). So what? Kibalchish boys, we still have the majority.
      Airplanes are flying ... Salute to Malchish-Kibalchish! soldier
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 14: 54
        add here anti-Soviet films, monuments to accomplices of the Nazis, the mausoleum always hung up and the picture is not at all rainbow.
    9. +4
      20 November 2017 12: 53
      The question arises, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholas, who drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders are innocent victims.
      Yes, questions are questions, many questions, because this is an illustration of the collapse of the ideological education of the young generation. Also - this is the need to call for an answer to all the organizers of this event. What is it: the omission of organizers and educators, or thoughtful provocation?
      I involuntarily recalled school events of my generation dedicated to the heroes of anti-fascism. For example, such as Julius Fucik, with his book Reporting with a noose around his neck.
      This lad apparently did not hear about such people.
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 13: 04
        thoughtful provocation?
        Think about who paid for the trip and composed the text of the speech.
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    11. +10
      20 November 2017 13: 05
      In 5-10 years, these schoolchildren will throw out proposals for the demolition of Mamayev Kurgan, the dismantling of the Motherland, etc., etc. A generation of kinship that does not remember is growing. This is scary, it is terribly and very alarming for Russia.
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 55
        probably fighting corruption, running to meetings to bulk
    12. +8
      20 November 2017 13: 18
      Well, what do you want, if we hang Mannerheim’s board at the official level - and this is Hitler’s direct ally!
      1. CAM
        0
        20 November 2017 14: 16
        Yes, you leave me alone from the Mannerheim board, there isn’t
    13. +1
      20 November 2017 13: 22
      and you see from this generation ... Putin and Vasilyev then what? What, should they keep an eye on each school? usually retardation in education begins with district-oblono, which manuals will be accepted and taught, sometimes contrary to the recommendations of the federal center ...
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 09
        Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
        usually retardation in education begins with district-oblohn,

        The head of the city of Novy Urengoy, Ivan Kostogriz, personally defended the local schoolboy, who was suspected of justifying fascism.
        https://ura.news/news/1052313134
        If cho, the Yamal-Nenets okrug, there have been a lot of different things from there lately ...
        1. +3
          20 November 2017 14: 18
          and in the good old days, both the school principal and the history teacher and the mayor of the city would have mastered new specialties
          1. 0
            20 November 2017 14: 22
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            would have mastered new specialties

            Shipka is a lot of them there. By the way, they master there ...
    14. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 22
      Pay attention to where this student comes from: because of the Urals, just from there, where various non-profit organizations and the Yeltsin Center intensively take root. Here are the first results of these roots.
      It is urgent to close all of these vipers and deal with the history taught in schools and other places close to vipers ...

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong Russia, a united people, a prosperous Fatherland that cannot be broken by internal and external enemies.
      1. +4
        20 November 2017 13: 57
        from Yekaterinburg, where the Yeltsin Center and all kinds of organizations are there, to Moscow, closer than to Novy Urengoy — would you look at the map of Russia before calling for patriotism — or is there no life behind the Moscow Ring Road ?! laughing
      2. +1
        20 November 2017 14: 14
        The future president of the Republic of Siberia is apparently growing up.
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 14: 23
          Quote: Sauron80
          the future president of the Siberia is growing up

          Niii will not take off.
          1. +1
            20 November 2017 14: 56
            May God grant that it does not take off, but, as they say, vague doubts torment me.
      3. +6
        20 November 2017 15: 01
        Quote: The Truth
        because of the Urals, it’s exactly from where various non-profit organizations and the Yeltsin Center intensively take root.

        Yeltsin centers do not "take root". They are built personally by Putin on budget money.


    15. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 54
      Sailed, nothing to say! But then it will be even worse, and they will already laugh at us, as the late Zadornov once said, “well, so-so,” and rightly so! !!
    16. +1
      20 November 2017 13: 57
      Education, of course, it has a place to be, but this is not in our history textbooks, but certain adults prepared this meeting, the Bundestag is not a passage yard, they will not let the first person come in there, the boy clearly speaks in writing!
    17. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 06
      Under any government, there have always been oppositionists and disagreements. And now we have democracy in general, freedom of speech, what did you want, as they say, what they fought for .........
      Maybe the kid is the future Stirlitz, and he is specially abducted before the Germans. bully
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 20
        Quote: RASKAT
        Under any government, there have always been oppositionists and disagreements.

        Well, yes, only this is a collaborator.
    18. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 08
      Ah yes GDP. oh yes FSB !!! We managed to do it everywhere .. laughing
      So Germans breed on chaff. They don’t care for the graves. Such nonsense could pass only in overweight Europe
      Brilliantly, Deutschland was transferred to the stalls.
    19. +2
      20 November 2017 14: 09
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I congratulate the Ministry of Education and President Putin personally ...

      Do you know for sure that Putin teaches history to them?
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 15: 42
        Quote: Piramidon
        Do you know for sure that Putin teaches history to them?
        bulk informed him of this
    20. +4
      20 November 2017 14: 32
      I’m just curious - but are there relatives in this “пр ло х х" "" семье ’” family who died in World War II? And on which side of the front line did they fight? Did this lover of the “innocently killed” Wehrmacht warriors go to the Immortal Regiment parade?
      So the generation of "bulk" has grown ....
      1. +6
        20 November 2017 15: 23
        Ilyich, our to you hi Yeah, the article. There are more questions than answers. I join all of yours. recourse
        1. +4
          20 November 2017 17: 02
          Quote: Svarog51
          Ilyich, our to you

          Sergey, mutually!
          hi
          You know, and that's all - after a few parades of the Immortal Regiment?
          It doesn’t fit in my head - how can I?
          1. +6
            20 November 2017 19: 27
            You see, now you can.
            It doesn’t fit in my head - how can I?

            But simply - this is for someone and that's all, an avalanche raced. For me personally, this is a missed spit by my "citizen" on Russia. Moreover, other people are behind the petty.
            1. +4
              20 November 2017 21: 38
              Quote: Svarog51
              For me personally, this is a missed spit by my "citizen" on Russia. Moreover, other people are behind the petty.

              I agree....
              I get up close as a sign of full support.
              1. +5
                21 November 2017 01: 40
                I get up close as a sign of full support.
                good
                "Without friends, a little bit of me, but with friends - a lot." drinks
    21. +1
      20 November 2017 15: 23
      Vali is all on Pu. It's easier to live like that. Yes?
    22. +2
      20 November 2017 15: 39
      Well, yes, but what about without Putin:
      - fucked up shit - Putin is to blame,
      - too sour grapes - Putin is to blame
      - bad weather, rain and hail - it's Putin's fault
      - great-grandfather shit and bastard - Putin is also to blame
      etc.
    23. +2
      20 November 2017 17: 59
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Congratulations to the Ministry of Education and President Putin-personally ... have survived, the generation "next", the beginning.

      I’m sure that this fact, like the tragedy in Odessa on May 2, will remain without comment .. Angel Merkel’s “partner” is also there, but they can’t be upset!
  2. +23
    20 November 2017 12: 23
    According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."
    Well, give him equipment with his parents, let him take care of him. If he finds, of course, these same graves.
    1. +9
      20 November 2017 13: 04
      Quote: Observer2014
      According to a student at the Novy Urengoy gymnasium, he is extremely worried about the "untidy graves of German soldiers and deceased prisoners of war in Russia."
      Well, give him equipment with his parents, let him take care of him. If he finds, of course, these same graves.

      Here I agree with this with a curved back and with a long affectionate tongue, oddly enough. The graves of German soldiers (and Hungarian, Italian, and all other occupiers, too) are really groomed here. And this must be resolved at a high state level. It is necessary to legally prohibit anyone, including foreign states, organizations and individuals, from taking care of the burial places of enemy troops who came to us with the war. To assign this responsibility exclusively to the state (RF). And near each mass grave and on each grave there should be inscriptions saying that there are enemy soldiers who came to our land to kill us, but were killed themselves. And so it will be with everyone who comes to us with a sword. When such inscriptions appear near the cemeteries of the murdered invaders, then it will be possible to breathe a sigh of relief: "Russia has woken up!"
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 13: 48
        Even better than all the "innocent dead" who got lost and others doing their duty to get to where they came from. We pick up our own. I think there’s money for a good deed (the red-haired nanotechnologist definitely has). All the same, they’re "enlightened" and not very Europeans in during 5-10-15 years they are dismantled and spoiled.
        1. +4
          20 November 2017 14: 19
          Do not talk about graves groomed to talk.
          In the Kursk region, just on the Kursk-Voronezh highway, there is a huge complex - the fraternal cemetery of German troops. It is now too late to emphasize - the Nazis there, or "innocently lost sheep." They would not be “innocently lost” in Germany and would be buried, like, like Canaris there, the others.
          So this complex is in very satisfactory condition. Quite!
          Unlike the mass graves of our fighters, in Poland, let’s say.
          The Germans, for the time being, are so good that they do not engage in vandalism over graves.
          But! But!
          Caring for burials does not mean that we should shed tears over the "innocent dead." I repeat once again - nobody called them here!
          And the collapse of education ..... well, what do we have, apart from education, is everything all right? And the "terry anti-Soviet" did not sit down at Moscow State University? Ohhhh, now it is called differently, but the meaning is the same - to spit on themselves, believing that with such spat, self-spit, someone will become more willing to be friends.
          And GDP .... yes, it definitely bears part of the blame, definitely.
          At least due to the fact that some kid, 16 years old, in Berlin, took and did not give a damn and, not so much on himself, as on the history of the Motherland. On all his ancestors. At all the grandfathers-fathers of the current leadership. Country, education, culture ....
          Ehhhh ..
          1. +1
            20 November 2017 17: 30
            In our Nizhny Novgorod region, these graves ..... I don’t know how to say it (I remember my grandfather, I was all wounded, there was no living place). So the graves of these ghouls are in very good condition, under black granite. They have no bottom , let the creatures spin in hell. You need to take your own, the benefit is huge Russia, there is room for an Honorable Burial place, as well as money. You can safely use billions of zakharchenko for a really good deed.
  3. +19
    20 November 2017 12: 27
    Indeed, a number of questions arise for those who were preparing the performance of this student (by the way, the winner of the history Olympiad). What is this - stupidity or deliberate action in order to please the Germans by undermining the image of the country? I hope that the "debriefing" is ahead, but the word is not a sparrow ...
    1. +7
      20 November 2017 12: 38
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Indeed, a number of questions arise for those who were preparing the performance of this student (by the way, the winner of the history Olympiad). What is this - stupidity or deliberate action in order to please the Germans by undermining the image of the country? I hope that the "debriefing" is ahead, but the word is not a sparrow ...

      hi
      This is from the same area as fakes in the news and pictures from games.
      In fact, a couple of phrases stands out from the text about untidy graves and forgotten people.
      Another thing is that it was done deliberately (maybe someone changed the text) or, as always, by stupidity?! ...
      I would not be surprised if the speaker himself wrote ...
      For the younger (and older) generation, other words and concepts of "dark forest" or aka thermonuclear physics ... despite the "education" request
    2. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 06
      Quote: rotmistr60
      (by the way the winner of the history Olympiad)

      The question is, what kind of Olympiad was there?
      1. 0
        20 November 2017 15: 04
        Quote: Andrey NM
        what kind of olympiad was there?

        Last time - Novaya Gazeta.
    3. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 05
      The fact of the matter is if he is a prize winner of the History Olympiad then where did he find such books? In the face of a provocation of pure water, with the presence of logic, you can just ask yourself, if the poor German soldiers were killed by Russian villains, then what did these soldiers do near Stalingrad? Have you come on an excursion? Bundestag deputies do not themselves understand that all this is ACTION.
  4. +8
    20 November 2017 12: 27
    ... in fact, it turns out a problem for those who put it on "to speak" ... didn’t they see what was written with him? ...
  5. +15
    20 November 2017 12: 29
    There are NO words! I will not offend. There is no sense. It remains to apologize to Germany for OUR Victory.
    1. 0
      20 November 2017 14: 16
      There are few apologies! We must also pay reparations!
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    1. +18
      20 November 2017 12: 36
      Understand, forgive and repent?
      I spit, whose orders were executed by ki from the Wehrmacht and whose orders now in the Donbass are carried out by the same "ordinary soldiers" from the Armed Forces, who also "just following orders" hide Gorlovka and Donetsk. Both these and these are ki.
    2. +13
      20 November 2017 12: 38
      Azkii339

      I’m already reading your second comment. Are you by any chance not from the overgrown Navalny? You don’t like the GDP and our actions in Syria, you complain about education, but now you justify the invaders who invaded the country (they didn’t all want to fight). Who did not want, he surrendered, or deserted.
      1. 0
        20 November 2017 12: 43
        rotmistr60

        And you, by the hour, not from the Olginsky shoots? You may not even read further than your first comment I noticed.
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 15: 02
          Quote: Azkii339

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          Azkii339 Today, 12:43 ↑
          rotmistr60

          And you, by the hour, not from the Olginsky shoots?

          Hello, the new incarnation of cheburek!
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      2. +3
        20 November 2017 12: 51
        Duc in captivity who wants to fight? Especially when for all your atrocities committed before, they press and look from every hut, from every corner with dumb reproach and hate! Yes, when his hands pulled clay and kaknly burst!
        1. +6
          20 November 2017 14: 25
          Alex, welcome hi
          when for all your atrocities committed before, they crush and look from every hut, from every corner with dumb reproach and hate!

          You correctly noticed it. And not so many of these prisoners in our rear died, mainly from diseases. Here somewhere there was an article about how the Yankees treated the Germans in their occupation zone. Find and read - you will learn a lot of new things for yourself, especially how many of them from hunger in the first post-war year have tried on there. Here are the British Germans cherished in case of war with the Russians. Entire divisions, along with their weapons, were kept in acceptable conditions. So here it is.
          1. +3
            20 November 2017 15: 00
            Quote: Svarog51
            especially how many of them from hunger in the first post-war year there tried on

            Mauthausen, without changing the order and without changing the guard, worked until 1951.
            1. +5
              20 November 2017 15: 26
              Mauthausen, without changing the order and without changing the guard, worked until 1951.
              Thank you (without any sarcasm) hi I read the article, here I am trying to share with the younger generation. It is necessary to search the link. Here I found - "Eisenhower's death camps"
              https://topwar.ru/1452-lagerya-smerti-yejzenxauye
              ra.html
              1. +3
                20 November 2017 15: 47
                Sergey, welcome !!!
                I heard, in general terms ... Yes, and what star-striped can surprise us after Khatyn and Auschwitz ?!
                1. +4
                  20 November 2017 19: 33
                  They can, Alexey, they can. They in Vietnam outdid the Nazis atrocities over the civilian population. I will not mention the rest - this is the topic of a separate article.
                  Got information? And what are the findings?
                  1. +3
                    21 November 2017 10: 06
                    Not until yesterday it was somehow.
                    At home with a daughter, the world was done. I have it in the 4th grade. That is another "subject". I always thought that the European part of Russia goes to the Ural Range (at least that was how we were taught at school) and beyond the Urals - Asia ... So, I failed the test for checking the assimilation of the material. It turns out that the largest lake in Europe is Lake Ladoga, and the Caspian is out of work ... There you go! Of course, the Caspian Sea can be written off to the Middle East, but our continent is called Eurasia is not easy, I think))). What about the current issue, it is worth noting - we have never been distinguished by humanity. Long before Vietnam, there was genocide of the indigenous peoples of North America.
      3. 0
        20 November 2017 19: 06
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Are you by any chance not from the overgrown Navalny? You don’t like the GDP and our actions in Syria, then you complain about education

        Gospade, a person does not listen to and disapproves of the views of the king of the priest, and is dissatisfied with the current state policy. Quarter.
    3. +8
      20 November 2017 12: 49
      There are no ordinary soldiers in the war - ONLY ENEMIES.
  7. +25
    20 November 2017 12: 29
    and at my grandfather a tank with "innocent dead people" stood up after a hit .... grandfather of "innocent dead people" hated until his death .... grandfather IM even wrote about it on the Reichstag ....... ... what children are taught ...... no words ........
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 07
      We haven’t written anything like this in history textbooks; adult uncles and money worked here!
  8. +11
    20 November 2017 12: 30
    The question arises, who was the great-grandfather of the student and who is the teacher of history of Nicholas, who drove into the head of the 16-year-old young man the idea that the invaders are innocent victims.
    But the student does not have his brains? .. In 16, then ...
  9. +15
    20 November 2017 12: 30
    Shoot the entire delegation, their teachers, the school principal and the Minister of Education
    1. +8
      20 November 2017 12: 51
      both the government and the oligarchs! laughing
    2. +1
      20 November 2017 13: 44
      Only in reverse order, start with the minister!
    3. 0
      20 November 2017 19: 09
      Quote: Vasya Vassin
      Shoot the entire delegation, their teachers, the school principal and the Minister of Education

      While all sorts of uuasia will shoot everything and everyone, screaming around with horror and stuff - Russia has no future.

      Ride and shoot, show "silushka" and righteous anger.
    4. 0
      21 November 2017 05: 15
      Yes cho there. To shoot everyone: teachers, ministers, a schoolboy, a family to send, all who suddenly liked the news also in exile. Get to idiocy
  10. +12
    20 November 2017 12: 32
    Overton's windows are fully open. Soon we will repent before the civilized Germans, who brought the light of enlightenment to the dark barbarians, but who were mercilessly exterminated by non-people - the Communists ...
    Thank God, great-grandfathers did not live up to this.
  11. +5
    20 November 2017 12: 32
    This generation has grown up without living examples before our eyes - the Internet generation.
  12. +8
    20 November 2017 12: 33
    To the wall and shoot.
  13. +6
    20 November 2017 12: 33
    Actually, what this student said is close to the point of view of the Germans themselves. I have a friend of the descendant of captured Germans, and so she says that her grandfather did not want to fight, and in general was a peasant, but he had to because of propaganda, a state machine for conscription and all that. Maybe you can believe it as a special case, but from the stands of the Reichstag to call the invaders "innocent dead people" is certainly stupid (at least). I hope that nevertheless a minimum.
    PS And even if German soldiers can be called innocent victims, then only these victims of Nazi Nazism and for Russians they cannot be innocent in any way.
    1. +5
      20 November 2017 12: 36
      In Ukraine, the same songs. Upon appeal, no work, forced.
      1. +5
        20 November 2017 12: 39
        Yes, the songs about it are the same at all times. And the conflict in Ukraine confirms this again (“I don’t know, I didn’t shoot, I didn’t kill anyone, I’m ruining me with a mechanic”) - that’s what they mostly say in captivity. And the bearded in Syria say this and in 100 and 200 years they will say it (if people still remain).
    2. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 48
      Innocent victims? Well, let them be innocent, only first answer for our victims one to one, for all 22, or maybe more, a million dead. And that of that Germany and its allies will remain.
    3. 0
      20 November 2017 14: 56
      Quote: DenZ
      from the stands of the Reichstag call the invaders "innocent dead"

      Vashcheta is _intervents_, and this is a completely different sign.
      Applying the term "occupier" to the interventionist is to shift the semantic meaning. What, in fact, they are trying to achieve by calling the liberating army the occupier, and then applying all measures worthy of the invader-invader.
  14. +7
    20 November 2017 12: 34
    There is nothing surprising. There is even no word on how and what is taught in our schools. All general educational subjects are cut back or not taught at all. Well, in this case, we need to remember where and on whose grants our teachers undergo internships? After this, one should not be surprised. If they also teach that the United States brought victory in World War II, defeating the Japanese fleet on Midway Atoll.
  15. +4
    20 November 2017 12: 36
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Quote: aszzz888
    Andrey Yuryevich Today, 12: 22 and President Putin-personally ...

    ... and then what about the GDP?!? request or put it to every student behind the "spy"?!?!?

    The President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

    If anything, the Prime Minister manages the internal one, but he is definitely responsible for you!
    1. 0
      20 November 2017 14: 49
      And who appoints the prime minister? And what did the one who appoints the prime minister say? And he said that he was satisfied with the work of the prime minister and the government. Continue the logical chain or will you figure it out yourself?
  16. +6
    20 November 2017 12: 37
    After all, someone led him from the moment the study was started. And this is not one person: a teacher, school administration, education department, etc., up to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let’s invite relatives of “innocent victims” to the “Immortal Regiment” "from the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS request
    1. +5
      20 November 2017 12: 40
      Why did they stop at the Foreign Ministry .... and this is not the last spit on the sacred from the "saint" in the Kremlin ...
      1. +4
        20 November 2017 12: 43
        Quote: Nasr
        Why did they stop at the Foreign Ministry .... and this is not the last spit on the sacred from the "saint" in the Kremlin ...

        But innocently killed from the SS did not touch you? crying
        1. +3
          20 November 2017 12: 48
          Why should fascists "touch" me? But whoever sent the undergrowth to speak to the German deputies is clearly not a history teacher .. But will you come up with an excuse for him? Right?
  17. +2
    20 November 2017 12: 39
    Quote: aszzz888
    ... in fact, it turns out a problem for those who put it on "to speak" ... didn’t they see what was written with him? ...

    That's it, otherwise they immediately climbed to blame the entire GDP ...
  18. +3
    20 November 2017 12: 39
    Our parents, grandfathers, Vladimir Vysotsky bequeathed: DO NOT FORGET AND DO NOT FORGIVE!
    But forget. See the ancestors of the kid the horrors of war and occupation bypassed. But speaking on behalf of everyone is impossible. This must be explained to those who sent it.
    1. 0
      20 November 2017 19: 03
      In any case, judging by the comments, there are a lot of adequate people on the site. Another thing is strange, in our schools they seem to be less and less.
  19. +12
    20 November 2017 12: 41
    From my point of view, the "educational" institution, the preparation of such a student simply must have huge problems. Not excluding problems for the student himself. He has 16 years and his head should already have thought WHAT to say and WHERE. The Criminal Code for this character is just sobbing impatiently. It doesn’t matter that this juvenile doesn’t get to jail, the main thing is that he gets into the corresponding databases. And then he could not even dream of public service.
    1. +2
      20 November 2017 12: 43
      Quote: tolancop
      .... And then he could not even dream of public service.


      Hehe, we are still naive people ..
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 13: 16
        Quote: Nasr
        Quote: tolancop
        .... And then he could not even dream of public service.

        Hehe, we are still naive people ..

        Naive or not - I do not know. But a couple of cases where children were refused employment in serious state offices, not even for their sins, but for the sins of their parents - I know. Papules were once prosecuted. And it doesn’t matter what happened without the release (UD stopped for non-rehabilitating reasons), but the path to the offspring of the civil service was closed.
        1. +1
          20 November 2017 13: 37
          He went there and came for an armchair ... wink
    2. +1
      20 November 2017 13: 10
      16 years old he has
      he was sent for this speech.
    3. +5
      20 November 2017 13: 21
      You can have a different attitude to the Mikhalkov family, but once Nikita Mikhalkov quoted his father as saying: “Today's children, tomorrow people.” But one of these children may be the future president of Russia.
  20. +12
    20 November 2017 12: 41
    And my question is not to this school undergrowth, but to the teacher who checked this "opus". After all, a boy cannot speak with this verbiage without the approval of the leaders of this delegation.
    1. +2
      20 November 2017 14: 48
      This is one of the clown grant groups.
  21. +7
    20 November 2017 12: 42
    Close in the zone for the propaganda of fascism. Parents a heavy penalty. Since the brain was not enough to educate such a child, let them practice it with their hands.
    1. 0
      20 November 2017 12: 52
      National Socialism then. Fascism in Italy was.
      1. +3
        20 November 2017 14: 46
        Quote: Greenwood
        Fascism in Italy was

        Nect with the nickname of the notorious diamond mines: fascism has been everywhere. Even in RI. The Nazis are only one of its hypostases.
      2. +1
        20 November 2017 19: 13
        Quote: Greenwood
        National Socialism then.

        Do you think anyone cares? After all, if you begin to speak National Socialism, then questions will arise, and why did the socialist brothers fight one by one? So it was during the Second World War, and now.
    2. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 01
      Of all the comments, only this one pointed to the root of all problems - the parents of this teenager! In Japan, they correctly say that the main worldview of a child is laid by parents up to three to five years old! We naively believe that at this age they still do not understand much, but alas, our life, current being refutes this. If patriotism, love for one’s homeland, respect for the history of one’s people are laid in a child, no textbooks will break it! In extreme cases, a child receiving information such as this, when he arrives home, will ask Dad, from whom then his great-grandfather defended him, for whom he shed blood, why did millions die? Well, if you don’t ask, it means all of us, dear participants of this forum, do not have a nichrome life!
    3. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 24
      Article 354.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Rehabilitation of Nazism".
  22. +4
    20 November 2017 12: 42
    Judging by the photo, although I'm not a physiognomist, Svidomo.
  23. +5
    20 November 2017 12: 43
    For some reason I want to spit in my face.
  24. +9
    20 November 2017 12: 44
    My grandfather near Stalingrad from these innocent people was seriously wounded while defending his country. Who called them to us? And who is this uro..a sent to speak? The Germans must apologize for the genocide of the Soviet people, for a destroyed country, destroyed cities and villages.
  25. +14
    20 November 2017 12: 44
    16 years old kid, the brain should have appeared. He will be in the army soon .. Parents would have a pill and a native school. sad And it’s time for the State to take care specifically, otherwise you will look at polls on the streets of youth — shame and nothing more, they don’t know and don’t want nichrome. I will not say anything about reading books ...
    1. +3
      20 November 2017 15: 07
      Quote: Fedorov
      16 years old kid, the brain should have appeared. He will be in the army soon ..

      I think this wimp will not go to the army. His parents have already prepared a different path. A civil service with the prospect of high posts or a sickly business. The army does not fit here sideways.
  26. +3
    20 November 2017 12: 46
    No wonder GDP called the events in Ukraine that occurred in the 2014-th year, "false start." And so it is, the "non-brothers" hastened. And here the Crimea with its referendum braked the start of a real "race". But still ahead, apparently, looking at this report from the German parliament.
  27. +19
    20 November 2017 12: 46
    My older relatives told how during the blockade my mother with a frostbitten face, hungry lay under the images and was preparing to die, only the parcel from the front saved her. And then IT was found that accuses my country of how difficult it was for captive Germans to live, as if we ourselves had invited the Germans to fight with us, and as if the Russian people at the same time were eating themselves up in Kopeisk. By the way, our government was not so cruel to captured Germans. During my work in Germany an old man met me who was captured. All the time he asked me to find a certain Marusya, who was a cook in the camp in Perm, apparently falling short. Russian people are resourceful, but it’s criminal to build speculation on this. Special thanks to our liberal democrats who raised this tolerant crap for another spit in our country.
  28. +11
    20 November 2017 12: 48
    I understand that both the school and the teachers ... but where are the parents? Who should invest brains?
  29. +3
    20 November 2017 12: 52
    Here is the answer to Alexander Rogers on his statements about the magnificence of power in the Russian Federation and that we (the Russians) snickered! A killer argument, you will not say anything.
  30. +1
    20 November 2017 12: 54
    how many people here the only fiction writes is to blame for the fact that such a vegetable grew not the president, he is one in millions but parents and teachers who are directly involved in the upbringing! and enough for you to look for the extremes as in a diamond hand it’s not her fault it’s all the GDP!
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  32. +3
    20 November 2017 12: 56
    He’s not on the street, he blurted out in the company of friends! This is said at an official event! They will listen to such a young man .... and decide that in Russia all young people think so! Horror!
  33. +3
    20 November 2017 12: 56
    Apparently a “flexible” student expects to receive a grant for “cookies with dumplings” or “European integration”? wink
  34. +9
    20 November 2017 12: 58
    The case is blatant, but there is no need to be categorical in the assessment, an investigation must be conducted, this is a crime against the state. Here both the president and the reform of education were pulled together, not going to blame and defend either the first or the second I will say that first you need to determine who prepared the report for the boy (I didn’t read the modern history textbook, but I don’t think it is written there), I think his teacher from a gymnasium, in a company with some kind of specialist in international relations ... It’s necessary to see what kind of people these are, education in the West will probably come up (extension courses, exchange courses, etc.), their income ... A thorough check and tough fair punishment, well, of parents, for prevention to bring to justice, administratively.
    I believe that this is a specific deflection of specific people. It is necessary to punish, so that it would be disgraceful ...
    1. +5
      20 November 2017 13: 20
      Here both the president and the reform of education were dragged together ... It is necessary to punish so that it would be disgraceful ...
      So the president will not punish those responsible for this speech-crime. And then this will happen again, only in a more terrible version.
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 33
        Quote: Gardamir
        So the president will not punish those responsible for this speech-crime.

        belay and since when did the president punish citizens for criminal and administrative crimes? He should not interfere, here the matter is the level of the district / regional prosecutor's office.
        1. +2
          20 November 2017 14: 46
          and since when did the president punish citizens for criminal and administrative crimes?
          yes constantly, then Khodorkovsky will be released, then the woman will be punished with a guide for SMS. But here it’s not necessary to reduce everything to the city level, such a trip upstairs was decided, maybe Medinsky himself wrote the text, or who else? ..
          1. +3
            20 November 2017 14: 50
            Quote: Gardamir
            then Khodorkovsky will let go

            But the pardon is his competence, they write a petition addressed to the president ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            such a trip up was decided

            at the top no higher than the regional ... We are schoolchildren, sent to Kazakhstan to exchange experiences at the district level. Here, of course, the event is more official, so the area, but not higher ...
            1. +1
              20 November 2017 15: 01
              at the top no higher than the regional.
              it is still not known exactly, but the tracks lead to GAZPROM, which also contains the Echo of Moscow.
              1. +3
                21 November 2017 07: 11
                Quote: Gardamir
                it is still not known exactly, but the traces lead to GAZPROM

                Well, let's see ... Checks sort of go. I repeat, I consider this to be the selfish issue of specific people paid for by the action.
                Quote: Gardamir
                which also contains the Echo of Moscow.

                Well, there is not only Gazprom there, there are also grants from the government and near-governmental organizations ... But how else, in the country someone should give a different picture, someone should look from the opposite side, so let it be people under control, on a salary .. .
      2. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 48
        What a punishment. At the talk show, you don’t see what kind of experts from higher education, economics and all crap. Some liberals supporting the United States in all its poses?
      3. +2
        20 November 2017 19: 09
        Quote: Gardamir
        And then this will happen again, only in a more terrible version.

        Exactly. We all mocked “when are we going to erect monuments to Hitler?”. Apparently it’s not going to be funny at all. They will start small.
  35. +3
    20 November 2017 13: 01
    Here is the result of the reform of education and the exam !!! It is necessary to punish not the schoolboy and his history teacher, but the previous education ministers !!! To publicly repent before the Russian people for their wrecking ...
    1. +4
      20 November 2017 14: 34
      Quote: nnz226
      It is necessary to punish not the schoolboy and his history teacher, but the previous education ministers !!!

      Do you think this is a school curriculum? And I think that this is the selfish business of the specific people who made up the report.
  36. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 01
    The boy paved his way to the west with his fifth point, now he will be licked and made an honorary citizen and no green card will be needed. I hope, living in a well-fed Germany, he will find the time and visit Buchenwald, maybe then some kind of enlightenment will come in his brains.
    1. +7
      20 November 2017 13: 26
      It would not hurt to place animators in SS uniform with dogs in Buchenwald. And for those who want to plunge into that reality, dress in a striped uniform, place them in blocks on wooden plank beds with a kapo at the entrance, feed a week with a rundown of rutabaga, drive them to work, and then on the list. And in a week, no less, already for BABS, to be released WITH PURE CONSCIENCE TO WILL. I am sure that many would have a historical memory refreshed.
    2. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 03
      only the Army is able to knock out nonsense from the head of such ov .....
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 24
        Quote: asavchenko59
        only the army is able to knock out nonsense from the head of such ov .....

        unlikely to be embittered at all
        he would have to organize a tour of the concentration camps, let Tanya Savicheva's diary read
    3. +3
      20 November 2017 14: 36
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      I hope, living in a well-fed Germany, he will find the time and visit Buchenwald, maybe then some kind of enlightenment will come in his brains.

      There they will tell him about how they saved people from the Communists, guarding them with a fence and arranging fun tea parties, and the Soviet died in batches from eating ...
  37. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 02
    Quote: Logall
    I am joining! We cut the Soviet education, introduced an incomprehensible system ... So they waited!
    We praise Soviet education all the time, and introduce some kind of Singaporean ...

    Why is it Singapore? Singaporeans love their homeland. Groom and cherish. And their education is not bad. You can imagine a Singaporean schoolboy who (hypothetically) came to the parliament of a foreign, once hostile country, on the orders of the leadership of which millions of Singaporeans were destroyed with such a howl “penitent speech”. I cant.
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 15: 13
      I also ...
      the state of Singapore recently just turned 50 ...
      there are only a few million of them living on the island and they did not fight in such a way as to consider millions of losses ...
  38. +7
    20 November 2017 13: 03
    Of the young, yes the early. In licked, then. I have already paved the path for myself into the future. The trouble came, from where they did not wait. Our children may not be ours. And where is our Young Guard and other inventions of United Russia. Unwind the loot and deflate. And some of the activists generally settled in the west.
    1. +3
      23 November 2017 10: 15
      But who knows where all these young guards are. And it’s not even guilty of teaching history from worthless textbooks. There is no ideology in the country. Not just - official, - not at all. But it was ideology that required education - to teach from kindergarten that our country is the fairest, that we defeated the Nazis, that we are building a better society. Then there were the Oktyabrat, pioneers, the Komsomol. I am not saying that all this is correct and good in the sense of ideology. But method, method !!!! from birth - an assessment of the world, country and child in it. Yes, so you can cultivate any idea, fascism, for example. But this method is universal. And it is up to Russia to take the right direction. And without a lie.
      1. +1
        23 November 2017 10: 35
        I support. The ideology and postulates of morality should be spelled out in the Constitution, and their implementation in laws.
  39. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 04
    I say again, the new history textbooks, being introduced into the educational system, are quite adequate and have already moved away from the liberal-fascist assessments of the events of the past of Russia
  40. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 04
    The case when pionEry consider themselves dofiga smart ... Sadness ...
  41. +8
    20 November 2017 13: 05
    The nationality of the student is Ukrainian ... and the reason for such a statement is Russophobia, not specifically taken by the student, but his family and the circles this family belongs to ... They played in the Kremlin in democracy .... Russophobes have no place in Russia, but who does not punish Russophobia in Russia has no place in the Kremlin, the Senate and the Duma ... This schoolchild is a typical Russophobia-sick foreigner, Russians, in the Baltic States, for much less, passports were NOT CITIZENS ... All these Toge Russians and their brothers should take the oath of allegiance Russia, as it is customary to obtain US citizenship, and those who refuse to issue passports are NOT CITIZENS ...
    1. +5
      20 November 2017 13: 38
      Yes, it’s not a matter of nationality! I was also born in Zaporozhye, and so what? Hatred of the Nazis at the genetic level is not that of me, the great-grandson of Soviet soldiers, but also of my son, who have never seen my great-grandfather or grandfathers and grandmothers, unfortunately. Books for the child must be read correctly, about the pioneers of heroes, about the war in which we were destroyed, about traitors. And only then in # bl # dkov there will be no !! And one should ask for this “speech” not only from these slogans, but also from parents, teachers, and especially from those who prepared this diversion! This is not just a disease, it is gangrene! Eat the fruits of neo liberalism ..
      PS Although I agree that these “one children” are not worthy of full citizenship of Russia.
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 14: 50
        You know, speaking in purity, we now have different countries, different historical Homelands, and this Motherland has different heroes. If this guy thinks of himself as a patriot of Ukraine and Bandera, and that’s exactly so, then in the Russian Federation such as he does not belong. In Russia, Bandera is not a hero, and Russia is not for Bandera. That’s why I wrote that everyone who does not belong to the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation should take an oath of allegiance to Russia, upon obtaining Russian citizenship, as is customary in the United States, upon obtaining US citizenship, and those who refuse, passports are NOT CITIZENS of the Russian Federation.
        1. +1
          21 November 2017 14: 05
          Hahahaha .. Sobchak first take an oath, but rather Chubais ... "Indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation" - what are these? Only Russians? Or plus Belarusians? Tatars are also an indigenous people. And the Jews. And the Chukchi. And even the Germans. Ukrainians-not ..? Have you ever read on the network how many peoples, "big and small" live in the territory of the Russian Federation. And, to your displeasure, they are all fundamental for a long time, due to the specifics of the development of both the Russian Empire and the USSR.
          1. +1
            21 November 2017 17: 02
            The indigenous peoples of Russia are those that do not have their own states independent of the Russian Federation, and I wrote above about Sobchak and her kind ..... In Afghanistan, 60% of Pashtuns and no one doubts that they are the masters of Afghanistan ... I see no reason why it should be different in Russia ... In Russia, 84% of Russians and Russophobes in Russia have no place ...
            1. +1
              22 November 2017 00: 35
              You’ll go to Sakha-Yakutia to see how these “indigenous” Russians are being crowded out everywhere, and what’s Russian, everyone from the “great people olonkho” gets a quiet glanders ..
              1. +2
                22 November 2017 06: 59
                After the Russians were expelled and expelled from the republics of the former scoop with impunity, and the Russian government turned Russia into a passage yard for foreigners suffering from Russophobia, this whole mess started, but that doesn’t mean that it needs to be put up with. The Russians have nowhere to leave, they have only their Russia ... National and migration policy, this is one of the reasons why I do not support GDP .... and his party. In the USSR, they relied on nationalities and nationalities, with their Russophobia, they ruined the USSR ... All sorts of Latvia to this day shout that they supposedly fed the whole USSR ... I do not consider people who put monuments to Yeltsin to be patriots of Russia ... this is the second reason why I do not support GDP ... and the company.
        2. +2
          23 November 2017 10: 17
          I mean - Ukrainians are not the indigenous peoples of Russia ?! Yes, this is Little Russia, part of large Russia. Like it or not.
          1. +1
            23 November 2017 10: 42
            Modern Ukraine is a country with Russophobia ... Ukraine is a rebellious province of Poland, which came to Russia in 1654, and then rushed, then to Russia, then to the Poles ... The son of Khmelnitsky, after his death, served precisely Poland. ..A Little Russia, which exists only in your head, disappeared in the 13th century, when even the Metropolitan left Kiev for Kiev, and Kiev became a Catholic Polish village ...
  42. +3
    20 November 2017 13: 15
    Nemtsov's successor, however, is growing up. I would have flogged this together with his parents to the same camp, where the long-suffering Georg Rau and his comrades rested from military affairs. And the documentary shots of the chronicles of those years, German, Soviet, American, mostly related to concentration camps, punitive actions in the occupied territories were scrolled to the cultural program for the cultural program.
  43. +4
    20 November 2017 13: 18
    Question to the lovers of the president, make a list of what he is responsible for. Yeltsin also destroyed the country, this is the fifth column, and Democrats mixed vodka for him. And Chubais is not to blame for anything, it's all the State Department. And Gorbachev had nothing to do with it, it was his girlfriend Margaret who led astray.
    By the way, a new joke about Putin. He joined the Crimea so that there would be monuments to the kings.
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 13: 20
      Read the Constitution and do not fantasize.
      1. +3
        20 November 2017 13: 25
        Read the Constitution
        I, unlike you, Mr. hater of Russia, I know the Constitution. Where in the Constitution it is said about repentance to the Poles? Although the president himself proclaimed patriotism an ideology.
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  45. +4
    20 November 2017 13: 25
    This is not the schoolboy Kolya Desyatnichenko, but the Hitler Youth Klaus Zintel. I painted the rest in Tuittor. And inappropriate words too.
    1. +3
      20 November 2017 20: 09

      Speech schoolboy Kolya in the Bundestag.
  46. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 26
    It’s a significant event, but they didn’t take these schoolchildren from the street, the question is certainly not for them, questions addressed to representatives of the authorities — the guys played the kickbacks, all investments and super projects, counted everything for money.
    And here you have the first berries, and not the first ones, skinheads seemed to come from a couple of yards ....
    It’s time to thoroughly clean the Dumaks with delopoots thoroughly and take up the formation of the Russian worldview, which for almost three decades has been destroyed by our servant folk-bodies foreign under the dictation of pin-dos.
    It's time, otherwise somehow we wake up on the Maidan.
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 21: 00
      Why are you going so far? Presidential Sobchach is about to gather right now. Is she better than this \ I don’t know what to call \.?
  47. +6
    20 November 2017 13: 28
    great-grandfather allegedly told him personally what difficulties German soldiers experienced in Soviet captivity experienced

    And what did great-grandfather in captivity do? Or a policeman himself?
  48. +3
    20 November 2017 13: 29
    Under liberalism, there are no borders in lies and hypocrisy. It is a pity that this rust absorbs children. A country without ideology, Thank God not all.
  49. +2
    20 November 2017 13: 31
    It is on such "comrades" that Navalny, the political pedophile, is counting.
  50. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 31
    To study history in schools and at this age is now not held in high esteem. In my personal experience, history books were not interesting to me, I did not touch them. I read historical novels, if time is interesting, I dig deeper and, accordingly, vice versa. Most often, at this age, they are simply self-taught. And about what he said ... Carrying such things on the platform in the Federal Republic of Germany is nonsense, but the point of view has the right to life, after all, the Wehrmacht, where there was general conscription, and an argument like "could have hidden and defected ! " does not count, because there is a contingent that clearly does not approve of desertion and coughing up. Although who knows ...
  51. BAI
    +4
    20 November 2017 13: 35
    And this, by the way, is a history Olympiad winner. And we are still surprised when a MGIMO teacher claims that NATO was created in response to the Warsaw Pact.
  52. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 38
    Another victim of our “education”((
  53. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 40
    ..The German teacher of a schoolboy from Novy Urengoy reported that his speech at the Central Funeral Rally in the Bundestag was taken out of context, and the teenager in no way condoned Nazism... https://vz.ru/news/2017/11 /20/896000.htm
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  54. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 42
    Quote: aszzz888
    Andrei Yurievich Today, 12:22 the President, is responsible for the country, for domestic politics, for ideology (and lack thereof) for EVERYTHING. He puts and removes ministers, he is responsible for every fooled "victim of the exam." he is the president.

    ... and for an incomprehensible student speech from whom?!?!?!?!?!? the same President answers?!?!?!?!?

    The answer is simple! “The “officials” are to blame for everything!)))
  55. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 42
    You should be more careful in your comments about the kid, and not only on this forum. So it’s not far from sin. But there is a very good reason to hang someone for coca. Although if the GDP had a desire, there have been plenty of reasons over the past 15 years. So moms and dads, the future of your children is in your hands. Unfortunately, we have come close to the line where the state and the Motherland are not the same thing (or maybe we have already crossed it). Raise your children to be “Humans” yourself, or they will raise you to be consumers. And VVP, LADIES and the gang, so fuck with them. And this is not what our people experienced.
    1. +3
      20 November 2017 14: 41
      Quote: Trofim
      You should be more careful in the comments about the kid,

      This “kid” has been glowing for 4 years now. I don't think it will get through.
      And yes, full responsibility begins at age 14. And not after 17.
  56. +6
    20 November 2017 13: 43
    I saw the graves of innocent people

    ..., Crap
    those who died innocently at the Piskarevskoye cemetery, and these ...., no one called here, they themselves came and got what they wanted - RUSSIAN LAND
    1. +7
      20 November 2017 14: 34
      I absolutely agree with you.
      As a child, I lived for some time with my parents in Germany and then there were a lot of German war veterans who went through the war and captivity, and communicated with many.
      None of them ever said that they were victims of the regime.
      Everyone joined the army and the front by conscription and deliberately.
      Repentance came later, but not from the feeling that they had become aggressors.
      Our district police officer, Johannes, was a prisoner of war in Ukraine, and he told how he felt uneasy when Russian women sometimes shared their last bite with prisoners.
      He was ashamed, terribly ashamed, but this only came to him in captivity.
  57. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 45
    You bastard little rat. They raised their own replacements. I propose to beat such people with a whip until bad thoughts fly out of all the holes. Shame on his parents, shame on his teachers, they raised such a vile lackey that horror seizes them, as was possible during the lifetime of the Victors, without ideas to educate Vlasovites?
  58. +6
    20 November 2017 13: 45
    When we were children, we played like Vysotsky’s “So you read the right books as a child”
  59. +2
    20 November 2017 13: 45
    Article 354.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
  60. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 47
    There are no words... my hands are itching.
  61. +5
    20 November 2017 13: 49
    First of all, let’s say a big “thank you” to the family, because everything starts in the family. You may remember the scandal at “Field of Miracles” in 1995, when Yakubovich invited on stage: the granddaughter of Pokryshkin, the grandson of Muravyov and Bagramyan, the first spoke quite sensibly about her grandfather, and Muravyov’s grandson declares: the grandfather seems to have been a pilot. Where to go next: if SON of Maresyev! I didn’t consider it necessary to tell you about my answer! He loved his father so much!
    And with this schoolboy, as it seems to me: the parents, from the beliefs of libirasts, are **adults, at school they are not a history teacher, but ***** (the moderators do not allow him to express himself). Remember when we were kids, what we had: a book, a radio (there were 2 televisions in the village! Then they gradually appeared), but now: they don’t read books anymore, there are no TV sets (soon they will be hung in front of the toilet), a mobile phone. Here's an example of a neighbor: 23, from a modestly wealthy family (mother of conviction
    Bolshevik) regularly votes for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (between us, Dad is a dubious communist), but on the Internet he watches cartoons: “Sailurmon” and some other Japanese ones.
    Everything comes from the family: if you haven’t explained to the child what is good and what is bad, then that’s it!
    1. +2
      20 November 2017 13: 56
      And what's wrong with Sailor Moon...? Also during the time of “it” I watched it, and my friends watched the anime, and even now I’ll be happy to watch any feature film. The problem is not in the films, the problem is in the interpretation of the material!
      1. +2
        20 November 2017 14: 00
        Quote: Hiss
        The problem is not in the films, the problem is in the interpretation of the material!

        the problem is not in the interpretation, but in the presentation
  62. +8
    20 November 2017 13: 49
    Well, here come the fruits of the “Sorov” education, the Unified State Exam, the films “Bastards”, “Burnt by the Sun - 2”, “Penal Battalion”, powerful anti-Sovietism from all radio and video receivers, and so on. Are you saying that the Ukrainian Maidan will not be repeated in Russia? Oh well.
    1. +5
      20 November 2017 14: 10
      even after watching THESE films, only a degenerate would call the “Krauts” innocently murdered
  63. +6
    20 November 2017 13: 50
    The education of the “liberals” is bearing fruit...
    I am very upset by this fact and such a quick result of Russophobic activities..
    Grandfather Philip and grandfather Mikhail are the fathers of my father and mother, forgive us... your descendants... for allowing such a disgrace...
    Unfortunately, your grandchildren are not omnipotent... And the great-grandchildren of other “grandfathers” are not proud of your signatures on the walls of the Reichstag, and from the rostrum of the session hall of the Bundestag they spout such nonsense...
    May they and their parents be damned!!!
  64. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 52
    And who, in fact, has not raised children for a long time, who checks what various ki write in TEXTBOOKS, who builds Centers for the traitors of the country? Pushshchkin? No, until the crimes of the 90s are named in the country, until the Constitution is discussed POPULARLY, until the state takes up education and upbringing, we will be DISHAMED. Yes, for such knowledge it’s time to disperse EVERYONE in the Ministry of Education. It’s high time to stop counting thieves and grabbers by businessmen. Those who profited from resources received for free, illegally. It’s time to give citizens a reason to respect the country and laws
  65. +8
    20 November 2017 13: 52
    Quote: KelWin
    For some reason I want to spit in my face.

    But I really want to punch my parents in the face, and then ask the teacher: “Are you happy with your work?”
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  67. +4
    20 November 2017 13: 53
    Grant-eater Soros. He felt sorry for the fascists who could not withstand the hardships of Soviet captivity.
  68. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 55
    dumb animal
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 14: 00
      Quote: vanavate
      dumb animal

      which one is it about?
      1. +4
        20 November 2017 14: 05
        I’m talking about the generation of managers brought up under the leadership of lice hucksters, ministers of education who must decorate lampposts with their rotting flesh, and those brought up by them are whipped, it’s necessary to flog, you can’t explain anything there - it’s only pain to put bans on idiots...
  69. +2
    20 November 2017 14: 01
    Talking soap...
  70. +4
    20 November 2017 14: 01
    It turns out that not all fascists came to us of their own free will, they were forced. Lenin should be taken out of the mausoleum, buried and forgotten. Stalin is a tyrant. Grozny is a tyrant. Nikolai 2 is a slob, a womanizer. You see, we don’t have anything in our history; it’s strange that Peter 1 is not touched. All these are links of one chain, which strangles us, depriving us of memory. But why doesn’t the government itch, because without knowing the truth, we believe lies. In textbooks we are told about dates, countries, heroes of battles. but they don’t say who profited from it, how America got out of the crisis thanks to the beginning of the 2nd World War...
  71. +2
    20 November 2017 14: 03
    [quote=victor n]Our parents, grandfathers, Vladimir Vysotsky bequeathed: DO NOT FORGET AND DO NOT FORGIVE!
    But they forget. Apparently the boy’s ancestors were spared the horrors of war and occupation. But it is impossible to speak on behalf of everyone. This needs to be explained to those who sent it
    I already said below: everything starts in the family, remember Mayakovsky: “the little son asked, what is good”? (unfortunately, I don’t remember poetry well). In our childhood there were many books by Agnia Barto: “A bull is touching”, Mayakovsky: “I have a nail in my pocket, what about you?
    1. +2
      23 November 2017 10: 26
      I wonder if you had these books in your childhood, where did your children go with them? Well, these are for younger kids. What about the older ones? Who has at least a small children's library at home now? I have something. It is clear that now everything is electronic. But it’s just more pleasant to read a book. Especially, re-read your favorite ones from childhood.
  72. +7
    20 November 2017 14: 09
    Stupid kid said something stupid. But those who dragged him to the podium of the Bundestag... reported for the “work” done with the Russians. These need to be dealt with more closely.
  73. +2
    20 November 2017 14: 10
    They also ask a bunch of questions: where did the civil war come from in Russia!? Do you need an answer?
  74. +5
    20 November 2017 14: 12
    from the speech of the "prodigy":
    ... many wanted to live peacefully, did not want to fight

    Yes, they may not have wanted to fight, but they killed well! Innocent... During the retreat from Moscow, all villages were burned, prisoners were shot (they didn’t want to fight)...
  75. +2
    20 November 2017 14: 16
    If only they didn’t run into Russian Germans in Germany there, the whole delegation would shovel off
  76. +3
    20 November 2017 14: 18
    Quote: Jedi
    Hi Victor! hi
    Quote: Monos
    That is, one of the government officials selected them, looked through the reports. And ... missed. The disease is deeper than we think.

    Not only missed, but could not help but understand what resonance this will cause. It smacks of frank diversion ... No.

    There is sabotage.
  77. +6
    20 November 2017 14: 18
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    "The mayor of Novy Urengoy interceded for a schoolboy who pity the Wehrmacht soldier" - https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
    D1%82%D0%B8/1062129/mer_novogho_urienghoia_zastup
    ilsia_za_shkolnika_pozhalievshiegho_soldat_vierma
    khta

    It is interesting.
    The mayor of Novy Urengoy, Kostogriz Ivan Ivanovich graduated from the Higher Komsomol School at the Komsomol Central Committee with a degree in history,
    qualification "teacher of history".
    In 1989, he was approved as an instructor in the ideological department, head of the political education cabinet of the Novy Urengoy City Party Committee.
    Tsey flop from Ukraine.
    To whom do we justify fascism, if not to him?

    The mayor of Novy Urengoy was appointed personally by the German Miller, from there schoolchildren are taken to Germany at the expense of Gazprom (or the city of Gazprom)! They need to be expelled IMMEDIATELY from their positions, and the bastards they raised should be put before a CRIMINAL court as ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE, and the organizers of SUCH a historical education should also be driven from warm offices (where they even grow watermelons in the warmth) to a “cold” one for investigation! And give real terms to all “our” perpetrators and accomplices of provocation! We raised geeks - let them answer for the fruit! And the German “parliamentary” apparatchik-provocateurs also need to be punished with SANCTIONS, starting with a ban on entry into the Russian Federation. And we need to get out DECISIVELY from this whole stinking “European network”, starting with the Council of Europe, the ECHR, etc., where Yeltsin’s people and Kozyrev have dragged us into! Why - to justify neo-Nazism under Euromasks with the lies of our own bastards! The authorities have already played the game with the notorious “freedoms for liberals” to the point of losing not only face, but to a shameful weakness in front of the ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 15: 25
      The mayor of Novy Urengoy was appointed personally by the German Miller, from there schoolchildren are taken to Germany at the expense of Gazprom (or the city of Gazprom)! They need to be expelled IMMEDIATELY from their positions, and the bastards they raised should be brought to CRIMINAL court, as ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE

      Maybe you can remove Putin for knowing German? And in general, are all the enemies somehow connected with the Germans?
      God forbid people like you come to power again 37th The Germans are damn to blame for him
  78. +7
    20 November 2017 14: 24
    After reading the article I thought, that’s it, now they’ll peck the guy who blurted out stupidly.
    After watching the video, I said to myself, “Vasya, how stupid you are.”
    A fully formed personality, he has already determined his movement towards values ​​(the golden calf). And his family knows him very well and supports this direction. And he buys tutors for him to win at the Olympiads. And his gymnasium is made up of the same “principles” (I mean life’s “principles”). As for the war, grandfathers, Stalingrad........ he doesn’t care what to SELL.
    P.S/ Let's not judge all 16 year olds by this........ There is a problem, but it is not hopeless.
  79. +4
    20 November 2017 14: 26
    There is an expression. God save me from friends, and I can handle my enemies myself. The president has no luck with supporters. Recently there was a pro-Putin article by Rogers, after which I think the president has more opponents. Today's cries that the president is not responsible for anything also do not add to his popularity.
    And all the president’s supporters are enemies of Russia. they defend the president, but do not evaluate the student’s performance, thereby showing that the president’s defenders do not care about the country...
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 15: 08
      Quote: Gardamir
      And all the president’s supporters are enemies of Russia. they defend the president, but do not evaluate the student’s performance, thereby showing that the president’s defenders do not care about the country...

      Is this your _personal_ opinion? Or is there something to confirm?
    2. +3
      20 November 2017 15: 18
      Quote: Gardamir
      And all the president’s supporters are enemies of Russia. they defend the president, but do not evaluate the student’s performance, thereby showing that the president’s defenders do not care about the country...

      I am a supporter of GDP, but unfortunately I couldn’t give a full assessment of the “student’s performance”; the moderators would have banned
  80. +2
    20 November 2017 14: 26
    Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
    The graves of German soldiers (and Hungarian, Italian and all other occupiers too) are really unkempt.

    Vashcheta, there is a Law of War: the invader and the vanquished have no graves.
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 20: 35
      at 100%!!
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  82. +6
    20 November 2017 14: 47
    Why did this German soldier come to Russia? Who called him? Yes, with weapons in hand. For Russians, it doesn’t matter whether he came of his own free will or not, he came to kill Russian people, that’s what’s important. Question: how many Russian people died innocently from these German soldiers? I note, innocently. Why weren’t the common truths explained to a Russian schoolboy from Novy Urengoy, Nikolay Desyatnichenko? This is not his fault, but the fault of the school and parents, and this needs to be seriously dealt with.
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    1. +4
      20 November 2017 15: 05
      You seem to be a common man. But I don’t want to equate the innocently killed soldiers who ate excellent sausage and drank schnapps in the trenches near Leningrad, when my mother was dying of hunger in the siege. They are them - and let them mourn their victims. And we are us, and we will remember our sacrifices, and the one who equates us is either an enemy or a fool.
    2. +4
      20 November 2017 15: 24
      Quote: zolden
      Is it normal for Russians to conquer foreign lands?

      Where did you come from, stupid person (moderators can punish you, but you can’t say otherwise)?!
      name at least one war in which the Russians went to DESTROY the people
      Quote: zolden
      I think you have big problems with history - the union republics, St. Petersburg, Crimea, Siberia and the Far East, where did they come from as part of Tsarist Russia?

      You have problems with history, should I remind you how and why Crimea appeared as part of Russia?!!!
      As for the republics, you generally farted in a puddle, the Caucasus itself became part of the Republic of Ingushetia, the Republic of Kazakhstan as well, Belarus and Ukraine were originally our lands, sprats as well
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    3. +8
      20 November 2017 15: 32
      Quote: zolden
      The rulers of different countries start wars, not ordinary citizens. And from any side, soldiers are cannon fodder and innocent victims.





  85. +1
    20 November 2017 15: 01
    disgraceful, there are no other words negative
  86. +9
    20 November 2017 15: 12
    A schoolboy from the Russian Federation in front of the deputies of the Federal Republic of Germany called the Nazi soldiers "innocent dead people"


    As it turned out, the student was simply quoting Putin:

    MOSCOW, April 30 - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke in a column of the Russian Pioneer magazine about the recollections of the father and mother who fought during World War II and how miraculously they survived, but They did not feel hatred for the German soldiers, because they were hostages of circumstances whom they drove to the front.

    My mother generally had a very soft, kind person ... And she said: "Well, what hatred can be for these soldiers? They are ordinary people and also perished in the war.".
    And I remembered her words very well: "Well, what to take from them? They are the same hard workers as we are. They just drove them to the front."- the Russian leader shared his memories.

    RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/society/20150430/1061653827.html
    1. +2
      20 November 2017 17: 21
      I quote Putin. “In general, my mother was a very gentle, kind person... And she said: “Well, how can there be hatred for these soldiers? They are ordinary people and also died in the war." But there is no reproach for her for this. There is a difference. Putin’s mother survived the blockade and lost her son who died of hunger. Therefore, she had the right to judge one way or another. The Russian people are easy-going. . But no one gave the right any shpak to argue about whether this Fritz was killed innocently or he is guilty.Let him at least serve first.
  87. +4
    20 November 2017 15: 13
    What is this ? What kind of: “Forgive us Germans!” ?
    The Germans don’t tear their hair out over those killed in concentration camps.
  88. +4
    20 November 2017 15: 15
    The barrels need to be rolled not at the student, he is just a tool being used in the dark, but at NGOs receiving foreign grants, which simply have not yet reached their hands, in connection with the law on foreign agents that we are adopting. I think they will arrive very soon.
    Well, the fact that 300 thousand German soldiers, led by Paulus, were in Stalingrad on vouchers from the Berlin Travel Bureau, led by Hitler, is well known to everyone.
    And further. I wonder if the compassionate student knows where the grave of his grandfather, who died in battles with the Germans, is located and in what condition it is?
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    2. +6
      20 November 2017 15: 46
      354.1 Article. Nazism Rehabilitation

      [Penal Code] [Chapter 34] [Article 354.1]
      1. The denial of the facts established by the sentence of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of the main war criminals of European axis countries, the approval of the crimes established by this sentence, as well as the dissemination of deliberately false information about the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed publicly -

      is punished with a fine of up to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to two years, or forced labor for up to three years, or imprisonment for the same term.

      2. The same acts committed by a person using his official position or using the media, as well as artificially creating evidence of the prosecution -

      is punished with a fine in the amount of from one hundred thousand to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to three years, or forced labor for up to five years, or imprisonment for the same term with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years.

      3. The dissemination of information on days of military glory and memorable dates of Russia related to the defense of the Fatherland, expressing disrespect for society, as well as desecration of symbols of military glory in Russia, publicly committed,

      is punished with a fine of up to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to two years, or compulsory work for a period of up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional work for up to one year.
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  90. +3
    20 November 2017 15: 26
    I doubt that he specifically supported fascism, he’s just stupid as wood, this is some kind of nonsense.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&
    ;v=k2zf5dpTZws
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 16: 06
      Yes, he’s not a writer by any means, but no one edited his “speech”? or all according to what was written?
  91. +4
    20 November 2017 15: 48
    However, the undergrowth paid attention to the problem with education, textbooks and teachers. Let the Duma think now about the consequences
    all previous school reforms imitating the American "method" of school education.
  92. +3
    20 November 2017 15: 53
    The school principal should be fired for non-compliance.
    1. 0
      20 November 2017 18: 53
      Don’t worry, he probably submitted it himself, it’s not an iPhone.
  93. +2
    20 November 2017 15: 58
    Well, this is the result of our sabotage education system
  94. +2
    20 November 2017 16: 22
    All this is a natural result of the subversive propaganda activities of the liberals, to whom in recent years our mass media (at the instigation of the Kremlin) have given carte blanche
    Trends like “Forgive us, fascists!” and “Repent on your knees” for everything that our fathers and grandfathers did, very easily take root in young and stupid heads.
    Young people are mostly nonconformists, and any idea, any slogan that goes against generally accepted norms and the opinion of the majority is received with a bang by them.
    Stalin shot 100 million people? - Exactly!
    Did the USSR unleash World War II? - Who else!
    Could the war have been won with much fewer casualties? - But of course!
    They don’t even bother to check the numbers, rummage through documents, read memoirs... they just take it on faith and with passion and pride replicate this lie at all intersections
    If the situation is not corrected URGENTLY, then the next generation will grow up an order of magnitude worse than their parents. They will be the gravediggers of Russian statehood.
    The West will finally achieve its centuries-old goal and destroy Russia, and without war - with the hands of the Russians themselves.
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  96. +3
    20 November 2017 17: 03
    in essence, the organizers of this trip, the sponsors, the head of the delegation, the curator of this idiot should be brought to justice, and the boy’s ears should be torn, if at 16 years old he has no brains, it would be better if he signed up for a search party and dug up the remains of our soldiers, but for this they will not be sent to Germany freebie...
  97. +3
    20 November 2017 17: 08
    What about us, schoolchildren speak in the parliaments of other countries every day. ? The Minister of Education is snickering, does not control the situation, does not control how history is taught in schools. I haven’t checked the mood with which our schoolchildren are going to the parliament of Germany. This is the primary task in our time, propaganda in the spirit of respect for the people of the country in different years of history. Remove her from her position and send her to Dagestan to teach physical education. Where did they find such ministers?
    1. +1
      20 November 2017 18: 53
      History teachers become janitors with a ban on teaching.
  98. +1
    20 November 2017 17: 32
    Quote: shark
    No need to turn the situation in its liberal side. Responsibility for passing by very often. Responsibility for our indifference, for the thought that someone else will definitely do, and I'm in a hurry. And power has nothing to do with it. We are to blame!
    If only one real man would come to this schoolboy, he would simply take and show photos of the victims of concentration camps, photos of shot civilians, and even the film “ordinary fascism” by Roma. And would talk. Just talked. Heart-to-heart. As a person with person .... We do not speak with our children. Hiding for work .. Well, so what else do you want from them.

    ...The same government would have condemned this guy! Because individual rights and all that!
  99. 0
    20 November 2017 18: 32
    The full version of the speech of N. Desyatnichenko and other representatives of the delegation of Russian schoolchildren in the Bundestag is presented on video
    Should he be a member of the Bundestag, or...chairman of the LDPR! wassat
  100. 0
    20 November 2017 18: 41
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    Quote: michey
    and he did not appoint the Minister of Education? And for 17 years of the country's development, he does not bear any responsibility? The boy - it is clear that under Putin he went to school. Well, if it does not - then of course nothing to do with it)))
    "-
    So it turns out that Stalin is to blame)) for the traitor General Vlasov, he appointed him

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