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"In the yellow hot Africa you can't see idyll"

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Whether a coup, or not - the opposition-minded military of Zimbabwe themselves seem to be confused. On the night of November 15, when a “turmoil” began in an African country, they argued: this, they say, is not a coup. But only "an attempt to punish the criminals surrounded by the president." The very head of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe, is supposedly not in danger.




However, the oldest president in the world was immediately placed under house arrest. Apparently, he is currently under serious pressure to voluntarily declare his resignation.

When in almost all media you read about “overthrowing another dictator” - this rhetoric is not to be alarmed. It is precisely the same vocabulary used by "non-survivable" with each "color revolution", organized not without the participation of Western intelligence services. Moreover, the real exaggeration of the situation is very similar, say, to what happened around Libya in the blessed memory of 2011. The “dictator” either “resigns” or “flees the country”. Then, however, the "fugitive" is - and he already appears as either "clinging for power" (if you think in terms of "fighters against tyranny"), or as an adamant fighter who is not so easy to put on the shoulder blade.

In addition to rumors of "retirement" and "flight", in such cases it is customary to tell how luxurious the "tyrant" lived (one would think that some of the Western leaders go to rags). Yes, even drag in the lifestyle of the wife of the head of state (familiar to the pain, in Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, the motive). It is precisely because, with any overthrow of power in the country with the help of external forces, the same motives are heard, it is difficult to take and take for granted the assertion that "the people are overthrowing an arrogant dictator."

I remember how Robert Mugabe was almost the only leader in Africa who in 2011 dared to sharply and uncompromisingly condemn the NATO bombing of Libya. When the African Union shrugged helplessly, unable to resist brute force, Mugabe offered Muammar Al-Gaddafi refuge in his country. Another thing is that Gaddafi turned out to be a Leader with a capital letter, which did not even consider the option to hide somewhere and save himself. But this position of the President of Zimbabwe, of course, inspired respect.

We, the citizens of Russia, may feel even greater respect for this person because of Mugabe’s position on the Crimea and anti-Russian sanctions. Back in 2014, Zimbabwe was one of the few countries that supported Russia on the world stage. And just the day before the military coup, Zimbabwe again voted against the anti-Russian resolution on Crimea in the UN General Assembly.

Generally, the West has accumulated enough reasons and reasons for dissatisfaction with the leader of Zimbabwe, and, as you know, the West is not inclined to forgive its enemies. A “outraged” politician is sentenced to overthrow in one way or another.
Although formally, this coup looks like an internal affair of the country and even of an individual ruling party, the African National Union of Zimbabwe - The Patriotic Front (ZANU-PF).

A few days before what happened, on November 6, Mugabe fired the country's first vice president, Mnangagwa. This was the reason for the coup. The military accused Mugabe of wanting to make his spouse his successor, Grace Mugabe, who had trouble with Mnangagwa. However, Mugabe, despite his advanced age (93 of the year), never spoke of a successor.

On the night of November 14-15, Harare appeared Tanks. The next day, Mugabe, his wife, and the country's finance minister, Ignatius Chombo, were arrested. In addition, the military seized the building of the state television company ZBC, beating several journalists. A classic military coup? No, says Major General Sibusiso Moyo, this is not a coup, and the president is "not in danger."

November 15 Robert Mugabe managed to speak with President of the Republic of South Africa Jacob Zuma. He confirmed that he was under arrest in his own house. He managed to convince the military to allow Grace Mugabe to leave the country. Apparently, she went to Namibia.

Then it was reported that Mugabe himself fled the country, but this turned out to be untrue. Further contradictory messages followed - he allegedly declared his readiness to resign, then refused to leave the post, then he asked for "a few more days." In such an environment, it is difficult to distinguish truthful information from misinformation. According to the information at the moment (the morning of November 20), Mugabe flatly refused to resign.

Well, he is an experienced fighter, having served 10 years in prison for fighting colonialism. He is being blamed for the fact that he
"Brought a prosperous country" ... However, the truth is that before he came to power, Zimbabwe was British colony called Southern Rhodesia. Of course, there was no talk of any “prosperity”.

Now there are also allegations against him that he arranged for the so-called “black division”, for which the West imposed sanctions against the country. “Black redistribution” is land reform, which consisted in the fact that the land of white farmers was transferred to the black population. Kink? Of course. But you can’t talk about “black redistribution” and at the same time keep silent about the country's colonial past and crimes against its indigenous people. Otherwise it is a one-sided approach. However, this is precisely the approach the West has always been different. Do not think about their own, even such recent sins ...

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, commenting on the situation in Zimbabwe, on duty called for "calm, rejection of violence and restraint." It is easy to call for restraint a small African state. It is difficult to call for restraint, however, those who overthrow presidents around the world are “a big giraffe, he knows better” ...

Apparently, Mugabe has little chance of resisting. But the least of all now I want to rejoice at the overthrow of the so-called tyrant ... And simply - a person who fought against colonialism and in recent years - supported Russia.

But - what is happening is not much different from those color revolutions that swept almost the whole world.
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  1. solzh
    solzh 20 November 2017 10: 07 New
    +3
    you can’t talk about “black redistribution” and at the same time keep silent about the country's colonial past and crimes against its indigenous people

    Or maybe it’s better to remember Rhodesia? Unlike South Africa, they lacked all kinds of apartheids and other racial segregation. As for the overthrow of Mugabe, then, in principle, we are not warm and not cold from this. With Zimbabwe, we do not have any significant economic and political ties.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 20 November 2017 11: 37 New
      +2
      Wonderful article. It is a pity that it is impossible to read it aloud because of the many unpronounceable African names and surnames. belay Respect to the author! good
  2. ImPerts
    ImPerts 20 November 2017 10: 14 New
    +2
    General Chivenga came from China ...
    And spun around ...
    China comes to Africa in a big way.
    This is what happened there.
    1. volodya
      volodya 20 November 2017 11: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: ImPerts
      General Chivenga came from China ...

      The Americans will come and set everything up! Joke: “Stripes came to Africa. Negroes see. They ask:“ How do you live here far from home? ”Africans have eyes on their foreheads“ Why are they far away? ”-“ Well, have you been brought here from America? '"
    2. andj61
      andj61 20 November 2017 12: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: ImPerts
      General Chivenga came from China ...
      And spun around ...
      China comes to Africa in a big way.
      This is what happened there.

      So Robert Mugabe himself initially focused on China, in contrast to his rival anti-colonial rival Joshua Nkomo, who focused on the USSR. True, back in the 80s, they agreed among themselves, even united the parties. China has been trying to enter Zimbabwe on a large scale for a long time, but only the same Mugabe was not very enthusiastic about this. But in Africa, many points should be evaluated through the prism of tribal relations. Nkomo was supported by the Ndebele, who made up about a third of the country's population, and Mugabe, by the Shona, who made up more than half the population. And who supports the current "leaders of the nation." And will this revolution lead to the aggravation of interethnic relations and the civil war in Zimbabwe?
  3. Ural resident
    Ural resident 20 November 2017 10: 51 New
    +2
    What did he eat there in this hot Africa that in his years he looked so young ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 20 November 2017 11: 48 New
      0
      Whom he ate will tell nothing. But juicy chops are made there not after, but before. In Africa there is an assessment of a meat dish - "tender as a man." belay
  4. Greenwood
    Greenwood 20 November 2017 10: 53 New
    13
    The author, as always, took the side of Mugabe and let's pour mud at the hated West, which, as always, is to blame for all sins.
    However, the truth is that before he came to power, Zimbabwe was a British colony called Southern Rhodesia. Of course, there was no question of any “prosperity”.
    I did not understand the logic of the sentence. What follows from the conclusion that Southern Rhodesia "did not flourish"? Just from the fact that this is a British colony? In Africa, there have never been any “prosperous” countries, but there was more order in Rhodesia under the control of whites. And inflation of thousands of percent was not. And leave the tales about the evil Britain, which only robbed the colonies, for the patriots.
    The "black redistribution" is land reform, which consisted in the fact that the land of white-skinned farmers was transferred to the hands of the black population. Inflection? Of course.
    Wow excess. White farmers literally ran away from their lands under the threat of reprisal.
    one cannot speak of a “black redistribution” and at the same time keep silent about the country's colonial past and crimes against its indigenous people.
    The paradox is that before the reforms of Mugabe and the white-runner from the white country, as well as before the fall of apartheid in South Africa, the indigenous population had much more opportunities due to the fact that Europeans arranged comfortable living conditions for themselves, built infrastructure, schools, hospitals and etc. For the indigenous population, conditions were also created for removing them from the primitive living conditions, although they lived separately from the whites. With the departure of whites outside of large cities, anarchy reigned and the traditional primitive way of life returned, and with it illness, hunger, etc.
    crimes against its indigenous people
    The paradox is that the locals themselves lost a lot from leaving White, because they could not support the country's development at the same level as it was with the whites. Alas, Black did not know how to work and did not learn.
    And just - a man who fought against colonialism
    Author, get out of your head this terry Soviet propaganda about oppressed blacks. Colonialism in central and southern Africa is the most optimal form of government and government. The colonialists left, and immediately the robberies, looting, epidemics, civil strife began, which grew into civil wars with mass genocide of the population.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 20 November 2017 11: 20 New
      +5
      Colonialism in central and southern Africa is the most optimal form of government and government.

      Eco has incurred you. You forgot to add that blacks are not in a position to do anything other than reproduce. Yes you are a racist however.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 20 November 2017 11: 28 New
        +8
        Quote: rotmistr60
        You forgot to add that blacks are not in a position to do anything other than reproduce.
        The way it is. Discarding the prisms of tolerance, look real. What level of development are African countries (even having a beautiful climate and a bunch of natural resources)? What is the state of the once thriving city of Detroit in after the white working class left? Which areas of American cities are most criminalized? Who at the household level have Europeans been most afraid of in recent years (answer: no, not Russian)?
        Some rappers and basketball players who have beaten out in people do not change the general indicators.
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Yes you are a racist however.
        "More than anything, I hate racism and ..." (c) wassat
    2. elenagromova
      20 November 2017 12: 31 New
      +2
      Colonialism in central and southern Africa is the most optimal form of government and government

      Tell me more about the white man’s burden ....

      And your "most optimal form" has long died, thank all gods ... Someone, of course, sleeps and sees her return in a dream, to one degree or another, but progress is progressing. The cave age, slavery, the medieval burning of witches, colonialism, racism - all a thing of the past.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 20 November 2017 13: 04 New
        +8
        Quote: elenagromova
        And your "most optimal form" - has long died, glory to all the gods ...
        Right The death of the local population during numerous civil wars, epidemics, famines, etc. after the elimination of apartheid and the departure of the European government, it exceeded all the "atrocities of the West" at times. But they are now free. laughing And go massively to Europe, to the former colonialists. They do not want to restore order on their land.
        Quote: elenagromova
        The cave age, slavery, the medieval burning of witches, colonialism, racism - everything is a thing of the past.
        And also medicine, education, infrastructure, jobs ... In general, everything that was created by the Europeans. laughing
        Quote: elenagromova
        progress is going
        For example, during apartheid times in South Africa, for example, white quarters were not surrounded by walls and barbed wire, and they did not have bars on the windows. Progress is certainly evident. True, the same level as the progress of the 90s in Russia compared with the Soviet 70-80s.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 20 November 2017 19: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          And go massively to Europe, to the former colonialists. They do not want to restore order on their land.

          Are you talking about those who fled from the wars organized by the United States in the territory of the Gloom, Libya, Syria, etc.?
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 21 November 2017 03: 33 New
            +3
            No, I'm talking about the black population of central and southern Africa, who are moving to Europe at such a pace that even the Syrians will envy.
      2. Elevator
        Elevator in the building 20 November 2017 16: 14 New
        +1
        << The cave age, slavery, the medieval burning of witches, colonialism, racism - everything is a thing of the past. >> - it all comes back in an updated form under the banner of neo liberalism ..
      3. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 22 November 2017 10: 06 New
        0
        I do not agree. It’s not a thing of the past, all the muck that you listed. In my opinion, they only lead to the return of slavery. This is the most convenient form of government for the mentality of the West and the most coveted.
  5. novel66
    novel66 20 November 2017 11: 11 New
    +5
    remembered:
    would Lumumba have a mind
    would Chombie have nothing to do with
    1. elenagromova
      20 November 2017 12: 52 New
      +2
      Well, they made up all sorts of jokes, comedies, anecdotes ... And then overnight they lost their own country, and it turned out that the "terry Soviet propaganda" was just right ...
      1. novel66
        novel66 20 November 2017 14: 11 New
        +5
        and propaganda cannot be right (or wrong!) because it is a tool
  6. Loess
    Loess 20 November 2017 11: 23 New
    +2
    Russia has not yet been blamed for this coup? Strange ...
  7. Normal ok
    Normal ok 20 November 2017 11: 39 New
    +8
    Pogromova, read at least what was previously written on the VO on this topic! A couple of years ago there was a comprehensive article stating that a crisis had ripened in Zimbabwe’s domestic policy. And that Mugabe is struggling to balance between factions within the ruling party. For a long time this could not continue, the “gun on the wall” fired. And you all there too - about the machinations of the Americans))) Yes, there China "weighs" much more than the West. If anyone is behind the coup, then the Chinese. But, again, the internal contradictions of Zimbabwe have been ripening for decades!
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 November 2017 12: 14 New
    +2
    Back in 2014, Zimbabwe was one of the few countries that supported Russia on the world stage.
    What will Russia answer now?
  9. creak
    creak 20 November 2017 13: 56 New
    10
    The author does not need to take on too much and speak on behalf of the residents of Russia about respect for Mugab - I do not remember that our citizens delegated her authority on this issue. With the same success, Elena Gromova can speak on behalf of the inhabitants of Zimbabwe, whose opinion was not voiced here ...
    It would be much more appropriate to speak on your own behalf and express your personal point of view, as it should be on VO ...
    There are certain doubts that everyone shares the author’s point of view - Zimbabwe has long been a world champion in inflation, there is practically no national currency, chaos in the economy .. It is not hard to guess how people live in this situation - you won’t be full of loud anti-imperialist slogans. you can’t feed ... But the military also live in this country and they just got tired of this mess.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 November 2017 14: 03 New
      +6
      Mugabe is against the West, then a best friend! Logics....... recourse
      1. creak
        creak 20 November 2017 14: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Mugabe is against the West, then a best friend! Logics....... recourse

        Recall the famous "He of course, son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch" ....
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 20 November 2017 19: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: ranger
          Recall the famous "He of course, son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch" ....

          The fact of the matter is that even "not ours," but Chinese (((
      2. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 20 November 2017 15: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        against the West, then a best friend!

        If the branch of Hell had opened tomorrow and the devil announced a policy of opposing Western imperialism, he would immediately have become a respected person and would have received a Russian passport laughing
  10. elenagromova
    20 November 2017 22: 47 New
    +1
    Well, what to say? It was necessary to voice a point of view, which is somewhat different from the general background of media coverage of this event - and comments, even insulting ones, followed. I do not want to react to such people, but since they scored a certain number of pluses, a small explanation can be given not for the authors of such comments, but for other readers.
    It came even to justify colonialism. But, citizens, this is now all the same frivolous position. Sovereignty is some kind of value, but this value now needs to be defended, at least in words. Otherwise - global chaos.
    So, most of the media now assesses the figure of Robert Mugabe from the negative side. I, without any special praise, tried to draw attention to its positive aspects - including for Russia. This is really a politician who has the courage to think "not like everyone else", and during his time his country always supported Russia. It is a fact. Just look at the voting results at the UN. Someone thinks this is nonsense? Why, then, are there so many small countries that join the major ones in the persecution of Russia? They themselves do not suddenly "burn with righteous anger"! There is a bribe, there is pressure. Under these conditions, I believe that those who do not succumb to this pressure and do not join the camp of the enemies of Russia really deserve at least some respect.
    As for China. Yes, the economy of Zimbabwe is partially tied up with China. But why does China now destabilize in a country with which he has connections?
    Formally, of course, it all looks like a purely internal differences. But in conditions when, around the world, figures who think "not like everyone else" have repeatedly been overthrown - you can voluntarily or involuntarily suppose a hand ... Everyone's famous hand ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 21 November 2017 03: 30 New
      +5
      We answer.
      Quote: elenagromova
      It even came to justify colonialism. But, citizens, this is still a non-serious position.
      It’s quite serious. African countries were unable to develop independently without external governance. Now China has entered there, it is trying to stabilize the situation with investments and developments, but it is still a stalemate.
      Quote: elenagromova
      Sovereignty is some kind, but a value, and this value now needs to be defended, at least in a word.
      Not for Africa. Their sovereignty turned into even greater problems for others. A parallel can be drawn with the former Soviet Union republics, the sovereignty of which led to the emergence of numerous hot spots along the borders of Russia, the Russian population was forced to flee to Russia, and for some reason crowds of illiterate migrants with medieval thinking fell behind them, which again increases tension and criminogenic situation is already in Russian cities.
      Quote: elenagromova
      now the figure of Robert Mugabe from the negative side. I, without any special praise, tried to draw attention to its positive aspects - including for Russia. He is really a politician who has the courage to think “not like everyone else”, and with him his country always supported Russia. It is a fact. It is enough to see the results of voting at the UN. Someone think that this is nonsense? Why, then, are there so many small countries that join the large ones in the persecution of Russia? It’s not they themselves who suddenly “burn with righteous anger”! There is bribery, there is pressure. In these conditions - I believe that someone who does not succumb to this pressure and does not join the camp of the enemies of Russia - really deserves at least some respect.
      You have fundamentally wrong thinking. Russia is neither warm nor cold from the presence of such a "friend." It is necessary to evaluate the head of state according to his internal affairs, and not by how his country at the UN votes and what high-profile statements he makes in the media. Robert Mugabe became famous as a nationalist, populist and tyrant in the worst senses of these words. He drove the country into the most wild poverty with enormous inflation, put the country's white population in front of the need to actually abandon their property and flee (just like the Russian population of the former Soviet republics ran away in the 90s). He did not earn respect for himself in order to try to protect him. And the fact that he supports Russia ... Well, given the sanctions of the West, nothing else remains for him. Loud voting at the UN attracts attention.
      Quote: elenagromova
      As for China. Yes, the economy of Zimbabwe is partially tied up with China. But why does China now destabilize in a country with which he has connections?
      If the military comes to power, there will be no destabilization. And in fact there is nothing to destabilize, there is already anarchy outside the capital.
      Quote: elenagromova
      Formally, of course, it all looks like a purely internal differences. But in conditions when, around the world, figures who think "not like everyone else" have repeatedly been overthrown - you can voluntarily or involuntarily suppose a hand ... Everyone's famous hand ...
      Stop blaming the West for all your problems. This is a very convenient position for the cheer-patriotic layers of the population. Allows you to justify corruption and the mediocrity of your own leadership and blame everything on damned America. But this is not so.
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 21 November 2017 16: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        It’s quite serious. African countries were unable to develop independently without external governance.

        It smacks of racism, however.


        Quote: Greenwood
        Now China has entered there, it is trying to stabilize the situation with investments and developments, but it is still a stalemate.

        Do you really think that the Chinese are trying to stabilize the situation? laughing China acts solely from a rational point of view, in its own interests. Sales markets are important to him, preferably stable, and not the development of any countries. Except China, of course.

        Quote: Greenwood
        Not for Africa. Their sovereignty turned into even greater problems for others.

        What problems and for which others? I think these others took over these problems voluntarily. To keep the former colonies in their orbit.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 November 2017 05: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: bot.su
          It smacks of racism, however.
          Just a point of view without embellishment, tolerance and "protection of human rights." laughing
          Quote: bot.su
          Do you really think that the Chinese are trying to stabilize the situation? China acts solely from a rational point of view, in its own interests. Sales markets are important to him, preferably stable, and not the development of any countries. Except China, of course.
          China plans to increase the extraction of natural resources and, in the future, to withdraw part of the harmful industries to Africa. Naturally, he does not need military operations in the areas of construction and mining.
          Quote: bot.su
          China acts solely from a rational point of view, in its own interests. Sales markets are important to him, preferably stable, and not the development of any countries.
          That's right. That is why at least some stability in the countries where China promotes its interests should be.
          Quote: bot.su
          What problems and for which others?
          The destabilization of African states has led to the migration of large numbers of people to Europe and the developed countries of the Middle East, increasing tension and the criminal situation.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 22 November 2017 10: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Greenwood
            Just a point of view without embellishment, tolerance and "protection of human rights."

            I understand perfectly what you mean. At the household level, it really seems that way. However, many African countries are developing well without any external governance. Especially those with a lot of oil. If we are not biased, we can say that "the development of African countries could have been much more effective if it were not for some features of the mentality," but certainly not "African countries were unable to develop independently without external management." This statement of yours is pure racism.
            Although, without the help of foreign experts, the development, especially of complex production, really takes on values ​​below zero ...

            Quote: Greenwood
            China plans to increase the extraction of natural resources and, in the future, to withdraw part of the harmful industries to Africa.

            Natural resources are understandable, but plans to withdraw part of production would be more interesting in more detail. smile

            Quote: Greenwood
            The destabilization of African states has led to the migration of large numbers of people to Europe and the developed countries of the Middle East, increasing tension and the criminal situation.

            Destabilization, of course, plays a role. But, even if there were no armed conflicts at all, in Europe social benefits are much higher than salaries in Africa and the standard of living in general is higher. The number of migrants from Africa to Europe will increase until the standard of living is equal, destabilization has nothing to do with it laughing The Europeans did it consciously.
    2. nerd.su
      nerd.su 21 November 2017 16: 46 New
      0
      Quote: elenagromova
      It even came to justify colonialism. But, citizens, this is still a non-serious position.

      Basically, this position is held by people who for some time worked in Africa or with Africans or heard stories from such people. Without taking into account the specifics of the development of African states and the African mentality, it is easy to become a racist and colonialist. To avoid falling into these sins, one must understand - Africa for Africans, Europe for Europeans and so on. The rest is international cooperation, preferably on a mutually beneficial basis. We evaluate the benefits and cooperate, if profitable, do not cooperate, if not profitable. Nor do we teach each other how to live. With his charter - to his monastery.

      Quote: elenagromova
      Sovereignty is some kind, but a value, and this value now needs to be defended, at least in a word. Otherwise - world chaos.

      Of course it is. So you should not go into the internal affairs of sovereign states. Moreover, our official authorities urinate, I think, not in vain.
      1. elenagromova
        21 November 2017 20: 19 New
        0
        Well, to express a civil and journalistic position is not “to go into the affairs of sovereign states.”
        Today it was decided finally. It is clear that the 93-year-old politician, even under the conditions when he was formally overthrown, could not oppose them and could not resist for a long time. Only here - the liberals have joy about this. There had to be at least another point of view!
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 21 November 2017 21: 58 New
          +1
          Well, maybe I spoke a little sharply ...

          As for the liberals, they have the joy of drawing parallels with our country. But all their attempts are flawed by ignorance of the situation in Zimbabwe and from an incorrect assessment of the situation in Russia. Only they can put pressure on the word "dictator".
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 22 November 2017 05: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: bot.su
            ignorance of the situation in Zimbabwe and from an incorrect assessment of the situation in Russia
            And what is the situation in Zimbabwe and what is in Russia?
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 22 November 2017 10: 26 New
              +1
              Are you a liberal? smile
              the answer requires a few examples of statues embossed with joy by our liberals, with a debriefing. Maybe in the evening. In general, I see no reason. Everyone will remain his own anyway.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 22 November 2017 10: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: bot.su
                Are you a liberal?
                I have been voting for the Communist Party for 10 years now. I hope this is enough.
                Quote: bot.su
                In general, I see no reason. Everyone will remain his own anyway.
                Hammer in.
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 November 2017 05: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: elenagromova
          liberals have joy in this regard
          When the late Boris Nikolaevich loudly announced on TV that "I’m tired, I’m leaving," almost everyone was happy about it. Compare the Yeltsin reforms with the Mugabe reforms and think about why all normal people approve of Mugabe’s departure, and not at all some abstract liberals.
  11. meGrail
    meGrail 22 November 2017 14: 42 New
    0
    All you need to know about the "rule" of this individual is GDP per capita:
    , i.e. this "fighter against imperialism", for almost 50 years, the population has not been richer. Absolutely. For 50 years, CARL !!!!!
    But I understand the reasons why the author wrote this opus - the money doesn’t smell and for a fee you can set any situation in a light favorable for current Wishlist “elites”.
  12. tigoda
    tigoda 23 November 2017 20: 41 New
    +1
    Elena, well done! Approve!