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Media: the British general suspects Putin in an attempt to revive the USSR

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A retired British general, Sir Mike Jackson, issued a warning about Vladimir Putin’s plans to revive the Soviet Union, reports the British tabloid Daily Express. Translation provided by "InoTV"


The publication notes that this statement was made after British Prime Minister Theresa May in her speech addressed to business representatives, accused Vladimir Putin of trying to split the West, cyber espionage, violation of the airspace of European countries and interference in elections in other countries.

Media: the British general suspects Putin in an attempt to revive the USSR


According to the newspaper, in a recent interview, retired general Mike Jackson linked Russia's attributed interference in Europe with Putin’s plans to revive the USSR.

I always remind people of what Vladimir Putin said publicly <...> that the worst - the worst, let me emphasize - what happened in the twentieth century - worse than two world wars, worse than the holocaust, worse than a great depression - the worst was the collapse of the Soviet Union
- declared the British military.

In his opinion, this says a lot about Putin. He sees modern Russia as the successor of the status of a great power, like the Soviet Union. Therefore, the British general believes, the Russian leader is trying to recreate it.

The publication notes that the words of Sir Mike seem to refer to Vladimir Putin’s statement 2005 of the year, in which he called the collapse of the USSR “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century”.
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  1. destination
    destination 18 November 2017 15: 57 New
    +8
    The General does the right thing! laughing
    1. The_lancet
      The_lancet 18 November 2017 15: 59 New
      10
      USSR-2?
      Another unsustainable project? laughing
      What will be ideology this time?
      1. Logall
        Logall 18 November 2017 16: 06 New
        45
        Dear, it will not be USSR-2! It will be - gouging the United States once and for all! And their satellites who will resist ...
        1. The_lancet
          The_lancet 18 November 2017 16: 09 New
          +4
          Dear, it will not be USSR-2! It will be - gouging the United States once and for all! And their satellites who will resist ...
          Just like I wanted to say - another "scarecrow" for the rest of the world
          It will be - gouging the United States once and for all! And their satellites who will resist ...

          But without it
          1. Logall
            Logall 18 November 2017 16: 17 New
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            Quote: The_Lancet
            But without it

            I agree, vassality will be blown away immediately! wink
            1. hrych
              hrych 18 November 2017 18: 13 New
              +8
              Quote: Logall
              I agree, vassality will be blown away immediately!

              Imagine the stench when he said that mouth wassat


              1. Georgievic
                Georgievic 18 November 2017 18: 30 New
                +3
                Honest remark! Old, soaked, stupid ok!
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 18 November 2017 18: 44 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Georgievic
                  Honest remark! Old, soaked, stupid ok!

                  Why stupid? He said something ALMOST right.
                  The USSR as it was, of course, will not be reborn. The catastrophe of Gorbachev’s parish showed that the ban on all parties except the communist party was a mistake. Opposition (I emphasize - HEALTHY, NOT FINANCED BY THE WEST, AND CONSIDERING OF PATRIOTS) opposition is a necessary element of the government, so as not to get too excited, as happened with the leadership of the USSR.
                  But the UNION OF STATES BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT - yes, it is possible to create. And this Union is growing stronger now. And in the future it will destroy the economy of the dollar, and the whole West will collapse with it. I hope the last war can be avoided.
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 19 November 2017 10: 35 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Shurik70
                    Quote: Georgievic
                    Honest remark! Old, soaked, stupid ok!

                    Why stupid? He said something ALMOST right.
                    The USSR as it was, of course, will not be reborn. The catastrophe of Gorbachev’s parish showed that the ban on all parties except the communist party was a mistake. Opposition (I emphasize - HEALTHY, NOT FINANCED BY THE WEST, AND CONSIDERING OF PATRIOTS) opposition is a necessary element of the government, so as not to get too excited, as happened with the leadership of the USSR.
                    But the UNION OF STATES BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT - yes, it is possible to create. And this Union is growing stronger now. And in the future it will destroy the economy of the dollar, and the whole West will collapse with it. I hope the last war can be avoided.


                    I wonder if the state is based on popular power, what other parties could be in it? Monarchists, anarchists, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Cadets? Now the Cadet movement is being revived. This is the same thing that bloody Sunday staged in 1905, having shot an unarmed demonstration. Did the Cadets have to be allowed in the Soviet Union? Or Vlasovites? Or give fists to steer? It seems that you vaguely imagine what you are advising.
                    USSR leadership snickering? Where did you get such data? If you are talking about state deliveries, machines from the chernushny cinema of the 80s, then now things are similar. And this is normal. People who are responsible for the state should not have restrictions in such elementary and, in general, cheap things, such as car-dachas. The damage from the unsettled life of senior leaders will be immeasurably higher.
                    True, the Soviet leadership was decrepit, did not prepare a worthy change, and missed the traitors in power, missed the education of young people and lost the information war to the west. That’s why.
                    About the union of states on the basis of mutual respect, this is utopia. The world has changed irreversibly. The main value for citizens now is money. And if the leadership of the states can still feel that collective security, common production capacities and the economic space are more important than solid cash, then this is not familiar to ordinary citizens. They continue to think in terms of "what I will have" and "stop feeding the republic." Alas.
                    And we lost the working class. Slowly but surely, our society is transforming from winning builders (construction sites of the century, social conquests, storms in space, a social camp) into consumer vegetables (taking away property and land of enterprises and collective farm land and land of pioneer camps for buying summer cottages near the city and apartments in historical part and with a view, personal transport with traffic jams instead of public on the free roads, social networks instead of real communication and books, etc.). The Vegetable Society is unable to build relationships with neighbors on the principles of mutual respect and mutual assistance. Because such ideas are not provided for in the concept of modern society.
                    Or the power of the people, or the power of capital. There is no third way. While you are looking for a third way, everything will be decided for you. While we decide that the power of capital is closer to us.
                    While Putin and the oligarchs agree with a carrot and stick, the situation is under control. As soon as the power changes (sooner or later it will happen, because there is no continuity and no party, but there are a bunch of like-minded people who, without a leader, are an empty place), everything will be like in a prosperous West, everything will be according to Marx. And then just hold on. European problems will seem like flowers to you.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 20 November 2017 12: 50 New
                      0
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye

                      I wonder if the state is based on popular power, what other parties could be in it? Monarchists, anarchists, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Cadets?
                      True, the Soviet leadership was decrepit, did not prepare a worthy change, and missed the traitors in power, missed the education of young people and lost the information war to the west. That’s why.

                      The same Communists periodically had very different trends within the party. Mao Zedong led the party different from Khrushchev. Czechoslovakia built its "socialism with a human face." The opposition, if it is competent, and not financed from abroad, can be used for good, and not crush tanks.
                      But the leadership is not decrepit, but rotted.
                      When, during a famine, the People’s Commissariat provides its workers with decent rations, this is normal. When in peacetime high-ranking workers are provided with good apartments - this is normal.
                      When soldiers build summer cottages for the generals, when the waiter is quoted above the engineer, when the seller in the store hides goods "for the elite", when there are special stores "for their own" - THIS IS ROT.
                      1. osoboye_mneniye
                        osoboye_mneniye 21 November 2017 10: 30 New
                        0
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        When soldiers build summer cottages for the generals, when the waiter is quoted above the engineer, when the seller in the store hides goods "for the elite", when there are special stores "for their own" - THIS IS ROT.


                        These are your emotions. Now this is many times more.
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 22 November 2017 00: 32 New
                        0
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye

                        Now this is many times more.

                        So what? If the tree rotted, it would collapse, independently, 75% or 25% rotted. If this rot is not burned out.
              2. sgapich
                sgapich 18 November 2017 19: 09 New
                +4
                Well said! He looks like an alcoholic to Misha Efremov.
              3. Skifotavr
                Skifotavr 18 November 2017 21: 36 New
                +4
                The old British horseradish thought he was a star and decided to tweak for joy. smile
          2. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 18 November 2017 16: 21 New
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            Quote: The_Lancet
            Just like I wanted to say - another "scarecrow" for the rest of the world

            Better to be a “scarecrow” for the whole world than a laughing stock


            And about the 6th fleet off the coast of Belarus I’m silent wink
            1. The_lancet
              The_lancet 18 November 2017 16: 34 New
              +2
              Hmm Do you think that you can damage the reputation of the United States by posting this funny picture?
              I'll try it too.
              I think police tractors in a city in Belarus are funnier
              You lose
              1. Thrall
                Thrall 18 November 2017 16: 46 New
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                Quote: The_Lancet
                I think police tractors in a city in Belarus are funnier

                Our country is called Belarus.
                Tractor - Belarus.
                And the city is Minsk. This is our capital.
                Our president’s name is Batyka. We respect him, and laugh at yours.
                This is such a fun nation.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 18 November 2017 17: 34 New
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                  The_lancet Today, 16: 34 ↑
                  Hmm Do you think that you can damage the reputation of the United States by posting this funny picture?
                  I'll try it too.
                  I think police tractors in a city in Belarus are funnier
                  I don’t see anything funny! You think the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Republic of Belarus outwardly designated its property for its economic needs - this is so that foreign "labor" migrants from the housing and communal services would not be ashamed of it!
                  You lose
                  Not a fig! Do not lose! Who and to whom is it funnier?
                  OBAMA KNIMS OUT THE DOOR !!!!! published: 1 Apr. 2011
                2. Chaos
                  Chaos 19 November 2017 13: 09 New
                  +1
                  I bought winter boots made in Belarus today. Warm, durable. Genuine leather, inside fur. At a price 2 times cheaper than imported analogs.
              2. Mwg
                Mwg 18 November 2017 17: 55 New
                +8
                For The_Lancet. We are taking our values ​​out of the Fed, we are buying up what the United States considered its last frontier, we are breaking down the concepts that the United States has built over the years, Our strategic weapons are tens of times superior to US weapons, our tactical weapons have outstripped US weapons many times over the past 10 years. The United States cannot oppose our tactics and strategies in world politics with anything significant. And you think that we lost ????
                1. Tomahawk
                  Tomahawk 18 November 2017 18: 11 New
                  +3
                  Dear SVG. Do you yourself read what you wrote? Half of the world is working for us. A fleet which the USSR did not even dream of.
                  Are you still fighting on the T-72 modification? Do you have at least one 5 generation aircraft in service? At least one normal aircraft carrier?
                  The USSR has already lost, and then something has arisen on its fragments and claims that it is 10 years ahead of us.
                  1. mad
                    mad 18 November 2017 18: 26 New
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                    Quote: Tomahawk
                    Half of the world is working for us. A fleet which even the USSR has never dreamed of.
                    Are you still fighting on the T-72 modification? Do you have at least one 5 generation aircraft in service? At least one normal aircraft carrier?

                    Ahah, another exceptional astride an aircraft carrier)) Will you also go to Siberia on it?
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 18: 33 New
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                    Quote: Tomahawk
                    Half of the world works for us.

                    So who are you to write this here? A traitor, like Penkovsky, or Belenko? Choose a country to your liking? Born in the USA? Working out the Green Card? Explain.
                  3. hrych
                    hrych 18 November 2017 18: 36 New
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                    Quote: Tomahawk
                    You are still fighting on the modification of the T-72

                    And this is said by the representative of the country, whose Abram completely defied in Iraq wassat Then the importers of Abram began to order the T-90 wassat
                    1. Tomahawk
                      Tomahawk 18 November 2017 20: 48 New
                      +1
                      Hrych hi
                      Well, the losses on the T-72 were an order of magnitude higher. Yes, and there are almost no T-90 operators in the Middle East, except for the ATS.
                  4. Mwg
                    Mwg 18 November 2017 18: 38 New
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                    Correct - MVG .. Well, okay. The weapon of the United States has always been money, and this weapon from your hands has been knocked out of the Russian Federation. Proof - gold return requirements. Fort Knox is empty. And what should be stored there has disappeared. The scandal with gilded nickel for the PRC in the United States was suppressed by all means. Lesotho is a place in Africa that the United States held as the last frontier for the elite bought up by the Russian Federation and China.
                    In the United States, processes are going on as in the USSR in the 80s. Your leaders, politicians and journalists talk to the population with slogans, analogies and cliches, and this is a sure sign of separation from the bulk of the population - a sign of the end of the state. Your FEMA has prepared coffins and cartridges for civilian weapons - the government is waiting for mass performances with blood. And this is inside you.
                    Weapons: Abrams to modify - no blueprints, nuclear weapons - not modified or updated 25 years (scheduled maintenance period - 5 years), in space - fly on our engines, electronics in military developments - China.
                    We have. 45% update of the air and ground fleet, new tactics and strategies for warfare. Your elite PMCs in Ilovaisk in the amount of 2000 people. A. Merkel saved by a personal visit to Putin .. Our missiles from the Caspian are hammering your proteges (ISIS) in Syria. Our long-range aviation is flying over Washington and the outskirts of London. Our submarines for the US are black holes. Our hyperspeed rockets up to 20 max (an example is a downed Chebarkul meteorite).
                    Yes, after applying all this, I will come to you on the T-34 and no one will even dare to blather. And you tell me about the T-72 ??? Yes, you really laugh ???
                    1. Tomahawk
                      Tomahawk 18 November 2017 20: 32 New
                      0
                      Mwg
                      The weapon of the United States has always been money, and this weapon from your hands has been knocked out of the Russian Federation.
                      You look at the ruble. Maybe at least something will become clearer. Or the economy of the Russian Federation and the standard of living.

                      In the United States, processes are going on as in the USSR in the 80s. Your leaders, politicians and journalists talk to the population with slogans, analogies and cliches, and this is a sure sign of separation from the bulk of the population - a sign of the end of the state. Your FEMA has prepared coffins and cartridges for civilian weapons - the government is waiting for mass performances with blood. And this is inside you.
                      You know, almost all Countries speak with slogans. Do you want to remind me of your media? About shots from a computer game that you gave out as "undeniable evidence of US support" You know my slogans better than that.
                      We have. 45% update of the air and ground fleet, new tactics and strategies for warfare.
                      What? Almost half? Remind about your fleet? Fleet? If there is something new then somewhere around 30%, no more. More talk than real achievements. I recall the “killer Abramov” and “killer F-35. Until you talked about T-50, the United States took and made more than 200 F-35.
                      Our long-range aviation is flying over Washington and the outskirts of London.
                      I hope you were joking.
                      Our submarines for the US are black holes.
                      Well, here I admit that the Russian Federation is very good, but does not reach the level of "black holes".
                      1. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 18 November 2017 22: 14 New
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                        Yes, the Russian economy is in poor condition. But I would love to look at the States if they only in the last 100 years survived two revolutions in their country, a civil war (by the way, during which America made good money in Russia), the Great Patriotic War after which America would be in ruins with industry destroyed. Then this fucking perestroika, another coup d'etat in August 1903. And all these revolutions and perestroika were accompanied by a complete change in the political and economic course. Although, if you could answer yourself honestly, could there be America in such conditions as it is now? And do not forget about the external debt of the USA and the Russian Federation, which is clearly not comparable. America has external debt of $ 20 trillion, which is 77% of its GDP. External debt of the Russian Federation is 537,5 billion, $? F 'nj 14,7% from its GDP. Do you feel the difference?
                      2. Mwg
                        Mwg 19 November 2017 06: 13 New
                        +4
                        For Tomahawk.
                        Our standard of living is terrible only in the speeches of liberals paid from the USA.
                        Example: at a time on vacation in Turkey, about 20% of citizens with low-paying professions are vacationers. Half of the female population traditionally walks in furs in winter. Cars in the Russian Federation per capita - 0,7 units. When the price increase began, we rushed to buy cars, all dealerships were empty. At the plants - program management, in agriculture high-tech BELARUSIAN equipment. All varieties of cheese, traditionally considered valuable, are made by our manufacturers. Meat, fish, poultry, grain, milk - domestic.
                        And we live in houses that are made of concrete, brick, steel, timber. And the cost of housing with us an average of 600-800 dollars. per sq. m. - in the property. Everything with the economy is normal.
                      3. Mwg
                        Mwg 19 November 2017 11: 05 New
                        +1
                        For Tomahawk.
                        Hello again.
                        According to our technology: 30% of the upgrade of the military park of the Russian Federation recognized by you is already a monstrous amount, so not a single state is being updated. But we also upgrade the old equipment so that your new one is not suitable for it. Our submarines are called "black holes" by your military experts in their usual analogistic manner, they don’t say that.
                        According to your technique: Our RPG-7 was adopted by the US Army and is produced for it in the USA, your Abrams are modified only in part of the tower, the rest cannot be strengthened because there is not enough engine power. Our active protection for tanks of the 80s model was acquired in an integrated form on the T-72 in Ukraine, exported in 2012 and yours still cannot deal with it. Of all the training battles, the SU-30 with the F-35, the SU-30 comes out victorious, and your military specialists are silent about the results. But the long languages ​​of your journalists regularly give out this "secret." F-35 is invisible ?? Fairy tales! Even our outdated S-200 systems bring him down. F-35 made 200 pieces. Well done !! But this is not an indicator of quality, but lobbying for interests in the US Senate of the interests of F-35 manufacturers. For in business you need to sell as much as possible before the buyer wakes up. F-35 is an unreliable aircraft, your journalists say: it has poor horizontal stability, computers crash, problems with virtual reality and oxygen supply to the pilot, it is incredibly expensive and just as insanely expensive to maintain.
                        Cosmos: You still fly on our engines, you did not have your own offspring. Development Ilona Mask engines - these are concepts that were recognized by us as unpromising and were sold to you for a lot of money in the 90s. Aircraft for air launches is a technology purchased in Ukraine, which you still cannot bring to mind.
                        The United States is not a country, it is a business and all that is inextricably linked with it: to praise a product, to bribe cursors of someone else’s product and to sell bullshit. You have never had and never will have quality, by virtue of the foregoing
                    2. Tomahawk
                      Tomahawk 18 November 2017 20: 39 New
                      +1
                      Abrams modify - no drawings]
                      Who told you? Here is a new modification - XM1A3.
                      nuclear weapons - not modified or updated 25 years
                      US strategic nuclear forces still guarantee the destruction of any potential enemy
                      Electronics in Military Development - China.
                      China? China on technology does not reach the United States. Less see the propoganda.

                      Our hyperspeed rockets up to 20 max (an example is a downed Chebarkul meteorite).
                      Everything is simple here. The United States relies on stealth, and the Russian Federation on speed.
              3. jetfors_84
                jetfors_84 18 November 2017 18: 53 New
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                Hmm Do you think that you can damage the reputation of the United States by posting this funny picture?

                Does America have a reputation? Fetid pit of the whole world
              4. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 18 November 2017 19: 19 New
                +2
                Quote: The_Lancet
                I think police tractors in a city in Belarus are funnier

                Dear Ash, a tractor-based enta machine, as you wrote Belarus, is an ordinary tow truck, which manages its duties much faster and more efficiently than conventional standard

                So rather it’s our know-how, which is more cost-effective and efficient, which you can envy wink So envy! laughing
                And the "war paint" shows belonging to the servants of the law, which is also present in the "paradise Eden" of the Earth

                You are killed hi Common sense won wink
              5. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 18 November 2017 19: 31 New
                +9
                Quote: The_Lancet
                Do you think that you can damage the reputation of the United States by posting this funny picture?

                Ash, you yourself have already done such damage to your reputation with your lies and arrogance that only the lazy do not laugh at the USA yes laughing
                A mockery of the elections, a mockery of Russia's accusations of interfering in the elections (although there is no place on the planet where the nose of Uncle Sam would not have been), your excuses of your own "acts" like protecting democracy are already creating jokes ...
                You, Ash (not you personally, but your nation) is a locust that methodically destroys the planet under beautiful slogans yes You are afraid of the truth and are ready for the most terrible atrocities in order to hide it, and at the same time you are more screaming about violations of human rights, although you are true violators of these very rights (abu-gray, guantanamo, prisons in Europe, but about racism and Native American I am silent about the reservation) ...
                Take a sober look at yourself hi
                Lies, hypocrisy, arrogance - these are the best characteristics of your nation request
                Nothing personal, the Syrians will tell you this, and the Libyans, and Afghans, and Serbs ....
            2. antivirus
              antivirus 18 November 2017 17: 46 New
              +4
              In his opinion, this says a lot about Putin. He sees modern Russia only as the successor of the status of a great power, which was the Soviet Union.

              IF THE GIRL DOES NOT CALL AN EVENING
              GUY “GOAT” (FOR PRESSURE), THEN WILL CALL HIM SO MORNING

              BEND YOUR LINE VOVKA
          3. dvina71
            dvina71 19 November 2017 00: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: The_Lancet
            another scarecrow for the rest of the world

            The scarecrow is already one hundred years old as one .. and you have its flag ..
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 18 November 2017 16: 16 New
          +5
          gouging the US once and for all!
          Yes, we fuck, we fuck. We fill them with billions of dollars. Maybe Nabiullina for the presidency, then just gouging ..
          1. The_lancet
            The_lancet 18 November 2017 16: 22 New
            +1
            Yes, we fuck, we fuck Already billions of dollars overwhelm them

            What?
            1. hrych
              hrych 18 November 2017 17: 37 New
              10
              Quote: The_Lancet
              What?

              When Brighton Beach or Brighton's scourge starts, then the state is over. The experience of Khazaria, the Commonwealth, RI and the USSR, now a critical mass of fissile material has accumulated in the USA. I think it's time to bum wassat
              1. The_lancet
                The_lancet 18 November 2017 18: 38 New
                +1
                A critical mass of fissile material has now accumulated in the United States. I think it's time to bang wassat

                Would you like to destroy this area? Why? laughing Do you think these Russians will be able to do anything serious? An area with a Russian population is zero value and there are no prospects. You can relax laughing
                1. hrych
                  hrych 18 November 2017 18: 44 New
                  +9
                  Quote: The_Lancet
                  The area with the Russian population

                  Rather gussky laughing African Americans will destroy this area under the command of the Black Panthers, if it doesn’t wash Status-6 earlier wassat
                  1. The_lancet
                    The_lancet 18 November 2017 18: 46 New
                    +2
                    African Americans hacking crack

                    I understand what you want to say. It's terrible, but more serious things started appearing on the streets. sad
                  2. Mwg
                    Mwg 18 November 2017 18: 49 New
                    +4
                    Great-grandfather Status-6 - Academician Sakharoffff, the beloved defender of all mankind in the West
                  3. The_lancet
                    The_lancet 18 November 2017 19: 02 New
                    +1
                    Rather gussky laughing

                    What is the point of your joke? Problems with the pronunciation of a person in the video
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 18 November 2017 19: 13 New
                      +5
                      Quote: The_Lancet
                      Problems with a person’s pronunciation in a video?

                      Exactly smile
                    2. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 19: 18 New
                      10
                      Quote: The_Lancet
                      Problems with a person’s pronunciation in a video?

                      This is a Jew from the USSR. You watch a movie, if not laziness.
                      1. dvina71
                        dvina71 19 November 2017 00: 39 New
                        +3
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        You watch a movie, if not laziness.

                        It is useless to him. Obviously, the Russian language is not native. And without such films you can’t understand ..
      2. poquello
        poquello 18 November 2017 16: 09 New
        +9
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Another unsustainable project?

        not, another English woodpecker, VSSR - British Soviet Socialist Republic
        1. demo
          demo 18 November 2017 16: 38 New
          +5
          Great Britain is a union of states: Canada, New Zealand, Australia, England itself, etc. Those. Great Britain is an empire.
          The entry of an empire into an empire is a difficult process to digest in the head.
          A variant of the AnSSR was possible.
          But not fate. Yes, and thank God.
          1. poquello
            poquello 18 November 2017 16: 52 New
            +4
            Quote: demo
            Great Britain is a union of states: Canada, New Zealand, Australia, England itself, etc. Those. Great Britain is an empire.

            uh, you do not confuse me
            an island in the Atlantic Ocean, part of the group of British Isles

            but there were no options except this stoned paranoid
      3. Barbulator
        Barbulator 18 November 2017 16: 17 New
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        Quote: The_Lancet
        USSR-2?

        And this one there! At the very ideology of "where he went to bed, there is his homeland", i.e. - there is no! And do not try to teach us how to live because of the seas and oceans ...
      4. Monos
        Monos 18 November 2017 16: 22 New
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        Quote: The_Lancet
        What will be the ideology this time?

        Can you imagine how powerful and great the Union was that even the mention of it of you, ideological, plasticine hamsters, is writhing and scary? smile Do it right that you are scared in advance - the freebie comes to an end. Even for the handout of the State Department will have to sweat. laughing
      5. Pirogov
        Pirogov 18 November 2017 16: 45 New
        +9
        Quote: The_Lancet
        USSR-2?
        Another unsustainable project? laughing
        What will be the ideology this time?

        It’s easy to make a reservation from the whole of the USA. Although you yourself have already done a lot, compact living of blacks, Arabs, Mexicans, etc. will end with a great holiday for the rest of the world.
      6. The brightest
        The brightest 18 November 2017 17: 06 New
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        The same one, you can try to cheat and ridicule as much as you like - this lamp of freedom and equality, but you will not succeed. The whole civilized world uses the fruits of this same ideology to one degree or another: free education, medicine, trade unions, compulsory paid leave, sick leave, maternity leave, EQUAL Gender and Peoples, a ban on child labor, an 8-hour working day, etc. And now you can open the veins of frustration that you live in the world that is around today, because it was created by those whom you hate and ridicule. But not like the flag under which you http://tipolog.livejournal.com/160452.html and today the United States still imposes pederasty on everyone ...
      7. venik
        venik 18 November 2017 17: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: The_Lancet
        What will be the ideology this time?

        ==========
        Over time, (very soon), you, "mattresses" - understand!
      8. Makarov
        Makarov 18 November 2017 17: 44 New
        +4
        The fact that the USSR lost in the war but is quite capable of rebuilding does not at all resemble the concept of an "unviable project" ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 18 November 2017 18: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Makarov
          The fact that the USSR lost in the war

          From this place more. Kagda and most importantly hde
      9. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 November 2017 17: 54 New
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        Quote: The_Lancet
        USSR-2?

        Dear, the world has changed, the USSR unfortunately will not. request There will be another education, and although you care about it, it is absolutely none of your business.
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Another unsustainable project?

        Are you the resurrected spirit of Baba Wangi? laughing
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Just like I wanted to say - another "scarecrow" for the rest of the world

        Well, so far we are confronting another world scarecrow-USA. wink
        Quote: The_Lancet
        But without it

        Do not stick your fingers to us with a fan and this will not happen. hi
      10. Tusv
        Tusv 18 November 2017 18: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Another unsustainable project? laughing
        What will be the ideology this time?

        Union of Free Slavic Republics?
        Not I suggested it, but the Czechs. I like. Or how is it like American Ai Like it many many times
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 18 November 2017 18: 42 New
          +9
          Quote: Tusv
          Union of Free Slavic Republics?

          Chukchi, Yakuts and other Chechens where do you order?
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 18 November 2017 19: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Chukchi, Yakuts and other Chechens where do you order?

            Did you figure it out? or how?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 18 November 2017 20: 41 New
              +7
              Quote: Tusv
              Did you figure it out?

              Counted, counted ... and now count laughing
              The Russian Federation is a multinational state; the Union was even more multinational.
              Call all nations, inhabiting at least the Russian Federation, "Slavic", you can ... but only with a very specific hangover.
              Those who wish may refute (c).
      11. timothy61
        timothy61 18 November 2017 19: 44 New
        +1
        none of your business pi n dos
      12. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 19 November 2017 11: 13 New
        0
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Another unsustainable project?


        Convincing yourself with caricatures of your own production is pleasant but unproductive. China, the project is "completely unviable", gives an economic growth of 2 times the global average.
      13. spirit
        spirit 19 November 2017 14: 07 New
        0
        Love your Edinaros) if he hits you, turn the other cheek laughing
      14. iouris
        iouris 20 November 2017 00: 32 New
        0
        The world imperialist system has long overripe. I give the United States five years to lead the world communist revolution. The Americans studied Marx, read Lenin.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 18 November 2017 16: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: destination
      General!
      And now the general with the name Michael Jackson zafigachit moonwalk under the "Billie Jean" in his own performance! fellow It seems that he should do it much better than reasoning about geopolitics.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 18 November 2017 18: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Mike (L) Jackson zafigachit moonwalk under "Billie Jean"

        You are confusing something. Beale Jean was performed by the Soviet skater so that Mike himself did not see. Kotin is kind of. And in another song
        It does not matter. The main thing, as my Mom used to say, is Her Kingdom of Heaven. Do not have a pale look and pasta. I walk
    3. 210ox
      210ox 18 November 2017 16: 18 New
      +2
      What does he do what is good for us?
      Quote: destination
      The General does the right thing! laughing
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 18 November 2017 17: 36 New
        +4
        That is yes. Of all that the general has said, so far it is unambiguously correct only that he does not doubt the revival of the USSR! wink
    4. Primoos
      Primoos 18 November 2017 18: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: destination
      The General does the right thing! laughing

      If he also brushed his teeth, he would not have had a price. And you need to know this T-shirt that Russia is the successor and heiress of the USSR. Total Heritage! And not only the debt that Russia HONESTY paid off in full and the arrogant Saxons did not mind it. Now is the time to master the rest of the legacy. We will not restore the USSR, but power, authority and influence are necessary.
    5. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 18 November 2017 19: 27 New
      +3
      "Media: British general suspects Putin of trying to revive the USSR"

      Suspicions are actually correct. But I’m embarrassed to ask - what, the reconstruction of the state, is this a crime? Who is the prosecutor?
    6. ID90
      ID90 19 November 2017 08: 17 New
      0
      and the USSR legally did not go anywhere.
      a handful of enemies signed a collapse agreement. and the current president is progressively eating up the Soviet backlog.
      Dear forum users.
      At least one of you wrote a statement on the withdrawal from USSR citizenship?
      1. hamkan
        hamkan 19 November 2017 10: 36 New
        0
        Quote: ID90
        and the USSR legally did not go anywhere.

        At least one of you wrote a statement on the withdrawal from USSR citizenship?

        There are 3 answers to this question.
        yes, no and it doesn’t matter.
        So here is the last most faithful.
      2. tv70
        tv70 19 November 2017 15: 57 New
        0
        And I gave the oath to the Soviet Union, and shake it up like that, not by the notion of whether ...
  2. alex-cn
    alex-cn 18 November 2017 15: 58 New
    +2
    If this brigadier had carefully read Bush Sr., he would not have spoken about it.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 18 November 2017 16: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: alex-cn
      If this brigadier had carefully read Bush Sr., he would not have spoken about it.

      They say what is beneficial to them.
  3. anjey
    anjey 18 November 2017 16: 02 New
    +7
    Retired British General Sir Mike Jackson Warning Vladimir Putin's Plans to Revive Soviet Union
    the old one does not understand that Russia, with its natural wealth and vast territories, has no other way — alternative — weakening, decay and plunder from without ...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 November 2017 16: 45 New
      +2
      anjey
      doesn't understand the old ...
      He understands everything! Just an old bastard - retired British general Sir Mike Jackson - at the same age as the mentally wounded downed militarist pilot McCain, in his gloating, like Damn, there’s trouble in the world!
      In muddy water, not only the devils are found, but the fish are also well caught by the devils!
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 18 November 2017 16: 05 New
    +6
    Well, we are only in favor of restoring the USSR, although now it is still unrealistic, because of the abundance of liberals in power, and not only in the former republics. ........
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 18 November 2017 16: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Well, we are only in favor of reconstructing the USSR, although now this is still unrealistic


      Hey. For the revival of powerful Russia - yes. good But an upgrade of the USSR is really not possible, and Putin does not call for this and does not strive. And the general should be less enthusiastic about the “White Horse” and “Long Joe”, otherwise there is a slate under the wave under the eyes and teeth with a cigar picket fence. wassat And in fact, with a large shoulder straps, the rank should deal with the state of its troops, and not seek out quotes, who, when and what said. yes
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 18 November 2017 17: 05 New
        +3
        Russia can be great only with the tsar or the General Secretary; no other is given. If Putin does not want to revive the Union, it remains to become the Tsar))
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 18 November 2017 17: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: freddyk
          If Putin does not want to revive the Union, it remains to become the Tsar))


          Stupidity froze, dear. Russia is a presidential federation and, I hope, will remain so.
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 18 November 2017 17: 25 New
            +2
            Lev hi - good hi to the very point! !! hi
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 18 November 2017 21: 51 New
              0
              Quote: Herkulesich
              to the very point!


              Senkay, Herculesych
          2. freddyk
            freddyk 18 November 2017 21: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Lelek
            Stupidity froze, dear. Russia is a presidential federation and, I hope, will remain so


            )) doesn’t tell you anything behind the text? Should not be taken seriously. And the presidential federation is new to Russia. And the big question is whether she can become great in this form. So far, it is very reminiscent of Krylov's fables.
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 18 November 2017 22: 03 New
              0
              Quote: freddyk
              So far, it is very reminiscent of Krylov's fables.


              Oh, these fables and storytellers.
          3. Fkjydjckfrgh
            Fkjydjckfrgh 19 November 2017 11: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: freddyk
            If Putin does not want to revive the Union, it remains to become the Tsar))


            Stupidity froze, dear. Russia - absolute monarchy and, I hope, will remain so.

            From the archives of VO 1916 laughing
  5. solzh
    solzh 18 November 2017 16: 06 New
    +8
    Retired British General Sir Mike Jackson Warning Vladimir Putin's Plans to Revive Soviet Union

    Something is not noticeable ...
  6. HAM
    HAM 18 November 2017 16: 06 New
    +2
    The general blurted out and blurted out. And why do we now need “independent” parasites like the Baltic states, Georgia, and all the Ukrainians with Moldovans there, again to feed the snake at the chest! ??
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 18 November 2017 17: 39 New
      +3
      The general snapped and blurted out. And now we are raking ... laughing (well, I mean to all of us - VO visitors). wink
  7. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 18 November 2017 16: 10 New
    +2
    Small Britain is now written for any reason, like this general without an army.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 November 2017 16: 12 New
    +5
    It seems that everyone is working to maintain Putin’s rating, or is it just here in the VO such articles?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 18 November 2017 16: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      It seems that everyone is working to maintain Putin’s rating, or is it just here in the VO such articles?

      No, we have announced democracy yesterday. Go maintain the rating of Pochachki or Navalnyuk.
      Dima iPhone is also a win-win option, he will receive and trample the tranche. Dare ... So do the program itself, politphysics blind and .... all yours.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 18 November 2017 18: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Dima iPhone is also a win-win option,

        And what does Dmitry Anatolevich not like for you? It’s strange to support Vladimir Vladimirovich and at the same time insulate his faithful prime minister. I understand that when Dimona lowers Navalnyuk, but when the conflagrants do this, doubts arise about their adequacy. Putin, therefore, trusts DAMA, puts him the second person in the state, is satisfied with his work, and Putin does not care about Putin’s trust and satisfaction.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 19 November 2017 07: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Karabin
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Dima iPhone is also a win-win option,

          And what does Dmitry Anatolevich not like for you? It’s strange to support Vladimir Vladimirovich and at the same time insulate his faithful prime minister. I understand that when Dimona lowers Navalnyuk, but when the conflagrants do this, doubts arise about their adequacy. Putin, therefore, trusts DAMA, puts him the second person in the state, is satisfied with his work, and Putin does not care about Putin’s trust and satisfaction.

          You live in Russia, everything happens here.
          I am not a tramp, but a traitor. And I'm waiting for Putin to become Stalin. IPhone in the team of Stalin? It’s ridiculous.
          1. spirit
            spirit 19 November 2017 14: 12 New
            0
            In Russia, a miracle is always waiting) and hold on to this regime, that will come tomorrow and we will heal ......
          2. Karabin
            Karabin 20 November 2017 14: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            And I'm waiting for Putin to become Stalin.

            This is really funny.
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 20 November 2017 16: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Karabin
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              And I'm waiting for Putin to become Stalin.

              This is really funny.

              "Laugh clown!" And I'm sad if so.
        2. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 19 November 2017 13: 41 New
          0
          but when the Satellites do this, doubts arise about their adequacy.
          I also have doubts about your adequacy.
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 November 2017 16: 15 New
    +2
    Media: the British general suspects Putin in an attempt to revive the USSR
    What is your dog business? Or is Moscow the Foreign Office?
  10. Holsten
    Holsten 18 November 2017 16: 18 New
    +4
    He feels British bastard, that fried smell, well done! But about the Great Depression, he was completely wrong: the time was very right for the USSR, there was absolutely no tragedy on a global scale because of this, and qualified Americans came to us to build the national economy in spite of world imperialism.
  11. NF68
    NF68 18 November 2017 16: 25 New
    +5
    Did this British general also get a severe mental illness similar to a maidan of the brain? So that the United States and England do not do things around the world, all this is right even though hundreds of thousands of people die in this, but as soon as Russia begins to defend its interests and the interests of Russia’s friendly countries without committing state coups and similar events how Russia immediately turns out to be bad.
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 November 2017 16: 27 New
    +1
    I always remind people of what Vladimir Putin said publicly <...> that the worst - the worst, let me emphasize - what happened in the twentieth century - worse than two world wars, worse than the holocaust, worse than a great depression - the worst was the collapse of the Soviet Union
    - declared the British military.

    I did a search .... But did our president allow himself so rudely to express himself? (alas, I doubt it) And they didn’t do anything to him? (yes, after 5 seconds it would be. Yes, yes, sec-sec).
    You don’t need to trick your grandmother, this is not an advertisement for GDP, but anti-advertising.
    Maybe (say) and does not want who he is after that?
  13. The brightest
    The brightest 18 November 2017 16: 30 New
    +2
    Compensation of the USSR in any form without ideology is impossible, and the abolition of this article in our occupation consistency is why it is not observed. Another woof from the gateway ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 18 November 2017 16: 34 New
      10
      Quote: Lightest
      Reward The USSR in any form without ideology is impossible, and the abolition of this stats in our occupation consistency why not observed

      T9 disconnect... You and so write funny enough, but with the "amendments" from T9 in general - you can tear your stomach laughing
  14. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 18 November 2017 16: 38 New
    +2
    Yes, look at his face! This is a drunk bum in a pink beret of some kind!
  15. Alsur
    Alsur 18 November 2017 16: 40 New
    +2
    They lie like breathing. Say half the truth and lie with three boxes. Putin did not say in such a situation that the collapse of the USSR was worse than two world wars, the Holocaust. The general comments on politics, the information war is in full swing.
  16. Million
    Million 18 November 2017 16: 54 New
    +1
    He won’t revive anything .. Moreover, the USSR ...
  17. Going
    Going 18 November 2017 17: 00 New
    +6
    Retired British General Sir Mike Jackson Warning Vladimir Putin's Plans to Revive Soviet Union


    Firstly, it is not possible;
    secondly, this is not necessary;
    thirdly, let him teach history.
  18. Machete
    Machete 18 November 2017 17: 08 New
    +1
    And Ronald MacDonald does not suspect anything there?
  19. Moskovit
    Moskovit 18 November 2017 17: 22 New
    +1
    All Jackson are strange people. One of the blacks made white and slept with the boys, the other carries nonsense about Russia.
  20. san4es
    san4es 18 November 2017 17: 28 New
    +5
    British general suspects Putin of attempting revival of the USSR

    1. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
      Alexander Abdrakhmanov 18 November 2017 18: 50 New
      +2
      And then the liberals made a mistake on the poster at the bottom - why did they emblem painted Tsarist Russia and not the USSR. It means they still know their story poorly - and they climb to where they have a dark forest in their head.
      1. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
        Alexander Abdrakhmanov 18 November 2017 19: 02 New
        +2
        Now it’s clear from whom such an order came - from Navalny, he wouldn’t come up with anything for her.
  21. Victor-M
    Victor-M 18 November 2017 17: 44 New
    +1
    Our country is what we want to do.
  22. Bronevick
    Bronevick 18 November 2017 17: 54 New
    +1
    And what is the revival of the USSR is bad?
  23. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 18 November 2017 17: 54 New
    +3
    An old retired British general suspects Putin ... laughing

    And I suspect if the British Queen tint her lips, then she likes younger generals lol



  24. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 18 November 2017 17: 55 New
    +1
    USSR was created by people - now they are gone. never revive him
  25. PalBor
    PalBor 18 November 2017 18: 03 New
    +3
    Yes, and given that the US Congress stated that Putin’s grandfather was Stalin’s personal chef ... Oh, there’s a direct connection - Putin just sleeps and sees how to revive the Union, unleash 3MB and capture half the world. yes
  26. Vladimir Sychev
    Vladimir Sychev 18 November 2017 18: 05 New
    +1
    What "great sorrow" befell the Russian president, a retired British general suspects Putin of trying to revive the USSR!?!? The true hypocrisy of the British tabloid Daily Express is immeasurably ...
  27. senima56
    senima56 18 November 2017 18: 15 New
    +2
    Let the British general attend to the revival of the British empire ... But he does not need to "emorate" about the revival of the USSR!
  28. serge siberian
    serge siberian 18 November 2017 18: 37 New
    +3
    And who tried to recreate the USSR? And what is actually bad in this idea? At least "who does not work does not eat" will return.
    Don’t teach us how to live and don’t go to us with our advice and homosexuals. And we ourselves can decide the liberties. YOU are envious.
  29. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
    Alexander Abdrakhmanov 18 November 2017 18: 40 New
    +1
    These clowns in military uniforms suspect - in Russian this is an empty place. . Russia suspects this of a general of harassment to the Prime Minister of England .. Let him prove to Putin that this was not the case, once said and written in English this is a fact.
  30. Wolka
    Wolka 18 November 2017 18: 45 New
    0
    maybe there will be something, but the USSR in its previous form will definitely not be ...
  31. Karabin
    Karabin 18 November 2017 18: 51 New
    +2
    Retired British general Sir Mike Jackson has warned of Vladimir Putin’s plans to revive the Soviet Union,

    About the plans of Vladimir Putin to revive the Soviet Union, the shell-shocked English general knows several exalted supporters of GDP in the Soviet Union. Neither the GDP itself, nor its immediate and not very environment, nor even Peskov about this with either an ear or a snout.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 19 November 2017 20: 49 New
      0
      :-) Well said! Plus.
  32. Dimy4
    Dimy4 18 November 2017 18: 58 New
    +2
    - I suspect President Putin of trying to defend the interests of his country. Here's how to declare it!

    PS And take off the uniform from the general - a spilled drunk at the pharmacy, standing behind a bottle of hawthorn.
  33. polpot
    polpot 18 November 2017 19: 17 New
    0
    We forgot to ask what to do.
  34. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 November 2017 20: 15 New
    +1
    Well, this general in the a / p "Slatina" that in Pristina saw our heroes ... He behaved appropriately, did not obey Clark ...
  35. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 November 2017 20: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Dimy4
    - I suspect President Putin of trying to defend the interests of his country. Here's how to declare it!

    PS And take off the uniform from the general - a spilled drunk at the pharmacy, standing behind a bottle of hawthorn.

    This general did not obey the direct order of the mattress Clark to destroy our landing in Pristina, saying that I did not want to start a war with Russia ... Have a conscience, even the enemy can be respected! Even Yevkurov, who was there at that time, spoke of him as a worthy adversary!
  36. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 18 November 2017 22: 04 New
    +1
    [quote = Tomahawk] Dear SVG. Do you yourself read what you wrote? Half of the world works for us. A fleet which the USSR did not even dream of.
    Yes, I agree. But the fact is that they work for the States half the world only because $ so far * so far!) Is the leading international currency. The States have this power, and who will work for them then? But this all goes to it .. GDP will not repeat Gaddafi’s mistake and will not go away from these candy wrappers alone. He is gathering a team for this. Turkey, China, Iran, the CIS countries, and Venezuela, Brazil are also thinking of joining Russia on this issue. , India ... This list is not so small. So the power of the States can be “moved."
    1. Tomahawk
      Tomahawk 18 November 2017 22: 40 New
      0
      about $ bye * bye!) is the leading international currency
      I see no prerequisites for the depreciation of $, on the contrary, the ₽ is only declining.
      Turkey, China, Iran, CIS countries
      Turkey is a member of NATO. China does not need problems with either the United States or the Russian Federation, they will remain on the sidelines. In Venezuela there is a political crisis in general, they would have to sort out their country. Brazil and India did not particularly support the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation is almost one on one the whole world practically with Belarus, Iran, there are still CIS countries but their economy is so weak that let me not comment.
      And the United States has another ally, the EU. In a small UK, the economy is better than the Russian Federation.
      1. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 19 November 2017 00: 14 New
        +1
        Turkey, although it is a member of NATO, however, does what it sees fit. In addition, Erdogan, although tyrant, but not, he makes the difference between membership in NATO and his own economy. China will still leave from $, t. K. claims to be one of the leading roles in the world, and its economy allows it. China has long been tired of America, which for any movement that it does not like is threatened by sanctions and “bringing democracy” (by the way, the whole world has already perfectly understood that the US doesn’t give a damn about democracy, they simply bomb and destroy countries that do something in their interests, not the interests of the United States). Venezuela is now supported by Russia, so it’s hard to say how it will end. , and a small economy, but together they are all the same what they are. But with Britain it’s very curious in general. This is a country that, earlier than America, realized that it was better to fight with the wrong hands, pitting countries against each other. And therefore the economy she is also better than Russia. Do you know how many times she set Turkey against Russia? Great British wine is also great in defeating the Russian fleet under Tsushima. Do not give recommendations on pyroxylin to Russian admirals (although ours are also good, as we always believed "good" Europe), Russia won would be in the very first battle. And how many countries did she conquer when she colonized them? And let us recall the "opium wars" in China, which were caused precisely by England? And you can talk about the war with India, the sepoy uprising, as well as about the Boer War. But there is little to say. Great Britain, unlike Russia, conquered and colonized hundreds of countries and territories around the world, robbing and exporting values ​​from there, natural wealth. And you didn’t forget to count the money that Britain actually stole from the Russian Empire? In 1914, Russian gold bullion was transferred to British banks in the amount of $ 50 billion. They planned to pay for them with the supply of military equipment and weapons. None of them have been completed. It turned out that the British factories are simply not able to fulfill such a large order. But the gold was not returned. War, you know, once. And in the 17th year, there seemed to be no one ... Yes, remind the stone, what kind of wars were fought on the territory of modern Britain? I don’t mention World War II! As far as I know, the Germans bombed only London several times. Yes, tragedy, people died, almost one and a half thousand people. But can this be compared with the destroyed cities of the Soviet Union? Are the losses in industry in Great Britain and the USSR comparable? So no need for the UK and its economy.
        1. Tomahawk
          Tomahawk 19 November 2017 00: 34 New
          0
          Turkey, although it is a member of NATO, however, does what it sees fit. In addition, Erdogan, although tyrant, but not, he makes the difference between membership in NATO and his own economy
          I don’t know here. Yesterday I shot down Russian planes. Today I show sympathy for the Russian Federation. Better not to predict. The Turkish economy is almost equally connected with the Russian Federation and the EU. It just probably does not want sanctions from either side.
          Also, China has long been fed up with America, which, for any movement that it does not like, is threatened with sanctions and "bringing democracy"
          The economy of China is very connected with the United States. It’s just that the United States exports production to the PRC because labor is cheaper there. China makes very good money on this. Yes, there isn’t much foreign policy either. They are taking timid steps in the Indian Ocean. Now the PRC is the “workshop of the world”, and it’s very profitable for them. You would choose: 1) to sit in China and earn big money; 2) to go build your ideology with a poor economy.
          (By the way, the whole world already perfectly understood that the States did not care about democracy, they simply bombed and destroyed countries that did something in their interests, and not in the interests of the United States).
          Let me disagree. Yugoslavia? DPRK? Libya? Iraq? Those countries in which everything was fine? Repression, dictatorship, some terrorism. Although you are right about Afghanistan. The United States supplied weapons, and then it was used against the United States.
          The CIS countries may have a small economy, but together they are all the same something.
          The economy of almost any NATO country will block the economies of these countries.
          Great Britain is generally very curious.
          Britain is the most cunning country in the world. It is better not to quarrel with them. They will win not so much with their army as at the negotiating table.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 19 November 2017 00: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: Tomahawk
            Yugoslavia? North Korea? Libya? Iraq? Those countries in which everything was fine? Repression, dictatorship, some terrorism

            So why, then, Saudi Arabia, after the events of 9 / 11 did not test the fate of these countries?
            Well, the Air Force recently raised the issue of the main terrorist, talking about the "saved peaceful" ISIS soldiers under the guise of the army of the country whose flag you have on your profile picture.
            1. Tomahawk
              Tomahawk 19 November 2017 01: 18 New
              0
              So why, then, Saudi Arabia, after the events of 9 / 11 did not test the fate of these countries?
              Probably the United States did not want to lose a valuable ally. Yes, and Saudi Arabia is not aggressive so far. The situation in the region is already unstable, there is no need for another military conflict.
              Well, the issue of the main terrorist was recently raised by the Air Force, talking about the "saved peaceful" ISIS soldiers under the guise of the army of that country,
              After the incident with shots from a computer game, do you still believe your media?
              whose checkbox is on your avatar.
              imagine this is the flag of the country in which I was born
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 19 November 2017 01: 37 New
                +4
                Quote: Tomahawk
                Well, the issue of the main terrorist was recently raised by the Air Force, talking about the "saved peaceful" ISIS soldiers under the guise of the army of that country,
                After the incident with shots from a computer game, do you still believe your media?

                For those born under the flag on the avatar, I explain - BBC - British Broadcasting Corporation - British Broadcasting Corporation, BBC
                You don’t know English? Do you live in a Russian ghetto?
                Quote: Tomahawk
                Yes, and Saudi Arabia is not yet aggressive

                You are either a fool (which is most likely) or a blind man (which is unlikely). Where is the war in Yemen?
                PS I can see that you have no any serious knowledge at all ... Your education level - is a good sign of your IQ. laughing
                1. Tomahawk
                  Tomahawk 19 November 2017 02: 20 New
                  0
                  Air Force - British Broadcasting Corporation - British Broadcasting Corporation, BBC
                  Sorry for the BBC did not pay attention.
                  You are either a fool (which is most likely) or a blind man (which is unlikely). Where is the war in Yemen?
                  This is a purely inter-regional conflict. There are a lot of such armed conflicts on Earth. But at the moment, Saudi Arabia is not taking aggressive actions against its allies or partners.
        2. hamkan
          hamkan 19 November 2017 06: 42 New
          0
          Quote: Lyuba1965_01
          In 1914, $ 50 billion worth of Russian gold bullion was transferred to British banks

          can you give me more details?
          1. Lyuba1965_01
            Lyuba1965_01 21 November 2017 21: 49 New
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            can be more detailed? [/ quote]
            Of course you can. During World War I, Russia borrowed money from other countries, because military expenses demanded a lot of money .. and a large amount of weapons that RI simply wouldn’t have time to physically manufacture. The UK was ready to give loans to buy weapons from her (!!!), but she required a deposit in the form of pure gold, which the king agreed to. Great Britain and its other "allies" constantly pressured Russia, demanding additional supplies of Russian gold as a condition for granting military loans at the interstate level. During the war, Russia transferred 498 tons of gold to the Bank of England; 58 tons were soon sold, and the remaining 440 tons were in Bank of England safes as collateral.
            According to the Soviet historian Sidorov, gold was delivered to England in December 1915, in June 1916 and in February 1917. Interest-free obligations were issued in exchange for 3 to 5 years in returning gold after the war. These obligations were credited to the balance sheet of the State Bank as “Gold Abroad”, which made it possible to use them as formal support for the ongoing issue of credit tickets.
            According to some reports, 1917 tons of Nicholas II's personal gold were also sent to Great Britain in early 5,5 (to the Bank of the Bering Brothers).
            After the end of the First World War, gold was not returned from Great Britain, the USA, Sweden to Russia, although most of it was not used to finance military purchases. The UK simply "did not have time" to make the right amount of weapons for Russia, and somehow it arrived too soon revolution in Russia, the emergence of a new state instead of the Russian Empire - the USSR, which, it turns out, no one owes anything.
            But Russia of the time of Humpbacked and EBN ... this is already beyond the bounds of idiocy ...
            In August 1986, Margaret Thatcher, announced that her country rejected claims for the royal debts of Russia in the amount of £ 900 million. (However, no one from the representatives of Great Britain could clearly explain where this debt came from, only those then accounting books and financial documents, which, naturally, at that time of general admiration and apology for the existence of our country, no one from the top leadership of the country delved into at that time). Gorbachev immediately responded with a generous gesture - he signed a decree on forgiving England 2 billion pounds, which she owed us in compensation for the damage caused by the British troops during the occupation of the northwestern regions of Russia in 1918-1920.
  37. gurzuf
    gurzuf 18 November 2017 22: 11 New
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    Not! The USSR will be gone. Will be - USSR (M)
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 18 November 2017 22: 51 New
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      Quote: gurzuf
      Will be - USSR (M)

      Is it like Felix-M happened here today, or what?
  38. Tomahawk
    Tomahawk 18 November 2017 22: 33 New
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    Lyuba1965_01,

    But I would love to look at the States, if only in the last 100 years they would survive two revolutions in their country, a civil war (by the way, during which America made good money in Russia), the Great Patriotic War, after which America would be in ruins with industry destroyed. Then this fucking perestroika, another coup in August 1903. And all these revolutions and perestroika were accompanied by a complete change of political and economic course.
    Without it, in Germany it was much worse in the 20th century, but now Germany pays most of the EU bills. Yes, and in the 19th century, the Russian economy did not openly shine.
    You know, while $ is the main world currency, default does not threaten us, unlike the Russian Federation. And to be honest, you're right about something ...
  39. PValery53
    PValery53 18 November 2017 22: 38 New
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    Aglitsky generally believes that only his small Britain and the United States are allowed to interfere in the affairs of other countries. And Russia - no, no. First, we will suppress such attempts by the arrogant Saxons. And secondly, Russia has nothing to drag into this dirty business of interventions.
  40. stolz
    stolz 18 November 2017 22: 43 New
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    Quote: destination
    The General does the right thing! laughing

    The general is retired, and therefore he is allowed to carry any garbage, approximately, as here on the forum, pensioners carry all sorts of nonsense, but no one takes them seriously. Why is a British retirement better? Just because he has a larger pension.
  41. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 19 November 2017 00: 23 New
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    [quote = Tomahawk]Lyuba1965_01, Without it, Germany was much worse in the 20th century, but now Germany pays most of the EU bills. Yes, and in the 19th century, the Russian economy did not openly shine.

    Yes, in Germany it was worse. But! The United States took up the western part of Germany, so we decide to make it a showcase of "capitalism", they restored it. The eastern part of Germany was restored barely alive after the war of the USSR. So these two parts of Germany did not rise on their own, not at their own expense. and another pretty interesting point. where did the Nazi party go? After all, his traces have not yet been found. I'm not talking about gold hidden in other countries, namely, that which was in Germany. What is his fate? There is an opinion of some historians that it was extradited (fully or almost completely) to the States for their "condescending" attitude towards some Wehrmacht officials and for helping them take refuge in other countries. The States also took many of Germany’s prominent scientists, who were Germans collected from all the conquered countries and "invited" them to work for themselves.
    1. Tomahawk
      Tomahawk 19 November 2017 01: 08 New
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      they then restored it.
      You know, the Berlin Wall was built by the Germans almost overnight. I honestly don’t imagine that the Soviet Union could do this. Germany was rebuilding after the First World War. This is where the German people themselves manifest.
      There is an opinion of some historians that it was issued
      I don’t know here either, if there are any documents, then it’s probably under the column “TOP SECRET.” We don’t need to know this. I think that let the gold lay where it lies. At best, in the Museum. wink
      .Likewise, the States took for themselves many of the outstanding scientists of Germany, who the Germans gathered from all the conquered countries and "offered" them to work for themselves.

      Great Britain and the USSR and the USA were engaged in this.
      1. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 19 November 2017 18: 58 New
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        1. No matter what the German people may be, without finance and economics all its advantages are equal to zero.
        2. The States took a lot more scientific research and scientists. While the Soviet troops finished off the Nazis, America quickly fussed
        3. In one of the comments I mentioned to you that Great Britain grabbed $ 50 billion worth of Russian gold bullion. I only forgot to say that after the collapse of the USSR, the Russian Federation took over not only all the debts of the USSR, but also the debts of the Russian Empire, parts of which the Bolsheviks refused during the revolution. It seems to me that it would be fair if the other countries gave Russia what they had taken from the Russian Empire. However, for some reason this was not done, and not a single country even hinted at it. I mean the fact that some European countries and the States (from December 1915 to November 1916, Russia supplied $ 23 billion in gold to the United States as an advance payment for weapons and gunpowder. The United States government invested money for its own military needs, and Russia did not receive either money or weapons.,), they simply simply appropriated Russian money for themselves, constantly accusing it of a weak economy and backwardness.
        Although, rightly so. We should not show nobility with those who understand this less than the mole in the light bulb.
        1. Tomahawk
          Tomahawk 19 November 2017 20: 00 New
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          Well, that scientists in the USA were taken away there is nothing illegal, the USA, as you said, just thought about it before.
          , they simply simply appropriated Russian money for themselves, constantly blaming it at the same time for a weak economy and backwardness.
          I don’t know, even if the United States paid that $ 23 billion, I’m not sure that something would have changed in the Russian economy, and to be honest, I recently read a book about World War I written by a famous British historian, in which he says that the Russian Empire made a very big contribution to the victory over the German Empire, while not receiving anything. Although if there weren’t a Revolution, maybe everything would have happened differently.
          1. Lyuba1965_01
            Lyuba1965_01 19 November 2017 21: 49 New
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            I think that would change. In any case, Russia would not have to do everything from scratch after the revolution. According to the estimates of the British firm Pinkerton, Russia is currently entitled to claim its gold worth $ 100 billion, as well as real estate with a total value of $ 300 billion. And again, it is not curious: why did Russia pay off the debts of the Russian Empire to other countries, but nobody is going to give back its debts. Judge for yourself:
            in 1916, the Russian Empire transferred the equivalent of 300 tons of gold to the foreign currency accounts of Japanese banks. The transfer is confirmed today by the successors of the then Japanese banks, but with a return it is somehow silent.
            In 1922, Lenin sent 93,5 tons of gold to Germany, which turned out to be a "trophy" in the "Bank de France" in Paris. In 1963, the status of this gold was confirmed by an agreement at the level of the governments of the USSR and France. The Russian side agreed to give 45 tons to pay off old Russian debts in favor of France. And 48,5 tons of gold have not yet been returned to us. The National Bank of France also stores $ 25 billion worth of Russian gold bullion transferred in 1914.
            Now about my "beloved" States. The foundation of its financial system - the Fed - was laid by Abraham Lincoln and Nikolai II. To create a “gold pool”, Russia contributed 48,6 tons of gold stored in Spain to the “authorized capital” of the IFS. However, Woodrow Wilson, who came to power in 1913, transferred this system to private hands. Currently, 88,8% of the Fed The USA belongs to Russia. In addition, between the United States and Russia, agreements were signed on the transfer of our gold not as a gift, but for rent for a period of 100 years, which expired in 2013.
            The agreement specifically noted that the interest rate on the use of 48,6 tons of Russian gold reserves per year is 4% per annum. However, these percentages have never been paid, although America has always recognized the rights of the USSR to invest in the Fed made by tsarist Russia.
            Well, now let's repeat our mantra about a strong US economy and a weak Russian economy ....
            1. Tomahawk
              Tomahawk 19 November 2017 22: 37 New
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              But you probably understand that with such relations between the Russian Federation and the Western World, no one will repay these loans. And this does not cancel the fact that the gas industry accounts for 70% of the Russian economy. And the fact that the US economy is stronger than the Russian economy.
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 20 November 2017 00: 05 New
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                You know, I’ve just returned from a walk with our sand, and sometimes clever thoughts appear in the fresh air. I want to apologize to you, I didn’t answer you exactly. No, in terms of numbers, everything is fine, just not quite in essence. You say that "even if the United States paid the $ 23 billion, I’m not sure that something would have changed in the Russian economy." But it seems to me that it would have changed. States, like people, have been saving their wealth not for years, but for decades and centuries. Imagine that your family was completely robbed, deprived of everything, only bare walls were left one hundred years ago. And now those who plundered your ancestors live in abundance based on these wealth stolen from your ancestors, but they say to you: think what is it? The affairs of bygone days, the old legends of the past, how could your money help your ancestors? This is exactly what happens to Russia. It is reproached by poverty for those who robbed it, who appropriated for themselves what they had earned and created generations for their country and their descendants. After World War I they left her a beggar, having pumped out everything that is possible (sometimes it seems to me that she was dragged into the war for the sake of "cannon fodder" and in order to rob her under the pretext of making weapons for her. The writer Averchenko has a surprisingly sad story “Khlebushko.” It is small, only 1-2 pages long. If it is interesting, find it on the Internet and read. It is there that the whole truth is about Russia and World War II). Then there was the Entente in Russia. And they also stole, plundered everyone who was not lazy. The notorious English and Americans were well "distinguished". The Japanese were also noted. Well, okay, with "tyrant" Stalin they somehow raised the country at the cost of incredible efforts. So the Great Patriotic War began, too, by the way , not without the help of the West and the States. There America was already in the allies, it seems as though somewhere helped. True, for the sickly money in the form of gold. Although, none of these countries was an altruist, not like the fool Rasseyushka. War is war, and business must be continued. He defeated the USSR (although the States, as always, shout about their victory, but we are modestly trying to object, prove our victory with facts, although who needs it there?) Then several decades of hard work to raise a ruined country. And here you are, came Judas Mechny, and then a “democratic” drunk Yeltsin (who was stubbornly pushed through the States for a second term). Who says that the States did not take any part in the collapse of the USSR? But what about the American medal Congress "For a victory in the Cold War", which is issued not as a military, but as a civilian? About how American "advisers" from Harvard destroyed our country and the economy, I’m tired of talking. But the Constitution, written by the Americans for Russia, is a land mine actions, and all the pitfalls in it creep out gradually, which is precisely what prevents it from developing our economy. Then the Chechen wars, for which militants were prepared by the Saudis with American money. And money left the treasury for this. Now R Russia is forced to intervene in Syria. And why? Yes, because the States need this territory because of oil. And again, our budget costs. And now tell me, dear man, what makes the American economy so good? And why is Russia forever poor? And in general, why does America eat at the expense of others, including Russia? Now that they will not repay loans. They will not repay, I know. They will only reproach us with our poverty. And we will again wipe ourselves out. And the point is not that such relations with the West and America. They simply will not return, whatever relations may be. These countries in themselves are like that. Well, you can’t honestly and in all honesty. A thousand times Russia has stepped on this rake and will be stepping on them as much again. Only here is the request ... at least for our credulity, at least for the fact that you use our money for free, do not reproach us with a weak economy. If Russia is to blame for this, it’s only its eternal naivety. And now we are trying not only to sell hydrocarbons. Our agricultural products have gone for export all over the world, as well as many high-tech products. And I will tell you a big secret: Russia still sells more than one and a half thousand pointe shoes namely to the States, which are very much appreciated by all leading ballerinas there. And the States are very pleased to buy Russian motorcycles with a Ural stroller in manual manufacture. Still, the States are very happy to buy scanning probe microscopes from Russia for their research centers .. A country where high technology cannot do just a hand-made piece of goods ... only conveyor business, only stamping. In general, the sale of hydrocarbons is now not the main source of income for Russia, so you have outdated information.
  42. Yugra
    Yugra 19 November 2017 00: 24 New
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    And then the rotten-tooth general suffered ...
  43. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 19 November 2017 00: 45 New
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    dvina71,
    Well, at least he gave a tip. But what the hell is not joking?
  44. LeonidL
    LeonidL 19 November 2017 06: 03 New
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    What a fellow, however! thought for a long time, resigned and came up with nakoneu ...
  45. hamkan
    hamkan 19 November 2017 06: 39 New
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    Mwg,
    Quote: MVG
    For Tomahawk.
    Our standard of living is terrible only in the speeches of liberals paid from the USA.
    Example: at a time on vacation in Turkey, about 20% of citizens with low-paying professions are vacationers. Half of the female population traditionally walks in furs in winter. Cars in the Russian Federation per capita - 0,7 units. When the price increase began, we rushed to buy cars, all dealerships were empty. At the plants - program management, in agriculture high-tech BELARUSIAN equipment. All varieties of cheese, traditionally considered valuable, are made by our manufacturers. Meat, fish, poultry, grain, milk - domestic.
    And we live in houses that are made of concrete, brick, steel, timber. And the cost of housing with us an average of 600-800 dollars. per sq. m. - in the property. Everything with the economy is normal.

    1. Tomahawk
      Tomahawk 19 November 2017 14: 21 New
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      Mwg,
      Well, you made me laugh about the economy.
      Let's start with the runway. Runway ranking.
      1) USA
      2) China
      3) Japan
      4) Germany
      5) United Kingdom
      6) France
      7) India
      8) Italy
      9) Brazil
      10) Canada
      11) RK
      12) RF
      In my opinion, this rating speaks for itself. And I didn’t give figures here.
      Well, another rating of the HDI. In it, the Russian Federation is in 49th place!
      You know what they say on the Zvezda channel, it’s not always true.
  46. Mwg
    Mwg 19 November 2017 06: 48 New
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    For Tomahawk.
    And, yes, I’ll add that now our people go to the bakery by taxi DRIVE - the price of a trip in a city with a population of 500-800 thousand (the average size of the city) is 100-150 rubles
    1. Tomahawk
      Tomahawk 19 November 2017 14: 40 New
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      As for weapons.
      F-35 almost without loss won in training battle with all European and American
      4 generation fighters.
      Of all the training battles, the SU-30 with the F-35, the SU-30 comes out victorious, and your military specialists are silent about the results. But the long languages ​​of your journalists regularly give out this "secret." F-35 is invisible ?? Fairy tales! Even our outdated S-200 systems bring him down.
      Do you think the United States, being in very bad relations with the Russian Federation, will still conduct training battles and will test invisibility on the S-200? And even if this was the case, the United States will never give out its secrets and tactics of air combat. All the shortcomings that you brought to your comments can be eliminated, a matter of time, and on 200 machines it is easier to eliminate shortcomings than on 10. The machine is new, unfinished. It recalls the situation with firearms, at first people laughed at you, then justified themselves.
      Cosmos: You still fly on our engines, you did not have your own offspring. Development Ilona Mask engines - these are concepts that were recognized by us as unpromising and were sold to you for a lot of money in the 90s. Aircraft for air launches is a technology purchased in Ukraine that still cannot be brought to your mind
      please do not make me say that we deliver to Russia. Although you probably know yourself.
      your Abrams are modified only in part of the tower, the rest cannot be strengthened because there is not enough engine power.
      Abrams is still successfully used, which cannot be said about the T-90. Everyone can speak of superiority, and military operations are an invaluable experience and an objective indicator.
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 19 November 2017 15: 06 New
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        I know that you are supplying: iPhone, iPad, I also know the case when you bought 24 combines. All.
        In Soviet times, I had a Buffalo buffalo leather jacket - a good thing, and now they are made not in the USA, but in Africa. And the quality is appropriate.
        The Russian Federation supplies the United States: titanium, vanadium, tungsten, aluminum, enriched uranium (from 1991 to spring 2017), rocket fuel, rocket engines (the third time I write about them).
        Russian technologies in the USA: HARP, Laser weapons, infrasound weapons, super-heavy aircraft, space shuttle (Spiral project)
        1. Tomahawk
          Tomahawk 19 November 2017 16: 10 New
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          The USA supplies to the Russian Federation: automobiles, electronics (in most cases, companies from the USA simply export their production from the USA to the PRC, because labor is cheaper there. In fact, most electronic devices from the PRC are licensed production of a US product. So, production in China is engaged in businessmen from the United States.). Also, do not forget about the film industry, in which the United States broke into first place. I think if you put it all together, the United States delivers more goods to the Russian Federation than it receives from the Russian Federation.
          super heavy aircraft industry,
          B-2?
          I admit that many scientists from the former USSR work for us. But would you not leave for the USA if you were in their place when there was chaos in the country?
    2. Tomahawk
      Tomahawk 19 November 2017 15: 01 New
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      As for the nuclear submarines. I said that I admit that the Russian Federation has a very good submarine fleet. But the Russian Federation does not have any AUGs, UDK. The nuclear submarines are the only ones that can oppose the Russian AUGs, although the AUGs recognize a more multifunctional weapon.
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 23 November 2017 21: 39 New
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        Our intercontinental missiles with multiple warheads on nuclear submarines are an indisputable argument for everyone on their own. Shooting from the territory of the pole was proof of this in the 80s and in the mid 90s. It is clear that now further development allows us to do much more than then. Question. Not an argument? With all the diversity of the US submarine fleet ?? Are super-fast missiles not a real threat to your aircraft carriers? And our ICBMs on mobile complexes is not an argument? Only this will be enough in the case of short-sighted actions by the US government. Sorry for the pathetic, but it's a reality. The USA has imperceptibly lost its hegemony and it’s time to put up with it already ..
  47. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 19 November 2017 11: 10 New
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    It is unlikely so unfortunately, but the idea is good
  48. Aimpoint
    Aimpoint 19 November 2017 13: 04 New
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    Scoop 2.0? No thanks, it’s better to make an ideal state from Russia =)
  49. Hauptmann_07
    Hauptmann_07 19 November 2017 17: 07 New
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    A dim glimpse of the mind on foggy Albion!
  50. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 19 November 2017 20: 43 New
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    :-) Funny! Putin and the USSR
    very far from each other!