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In Argentina, speculate about the "British track" in the disappearance of the submarine "San-Juan"

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The search continues for the Argentine submarine, which on Thursday evening has ceased to get in touch. This is a San-Juan diesel-electric submarine, which, according to the latest information, was heading from the southern Argentine city of Ushuaia to the Mar del Plata military base. On board the submarine of the Argentine Navy were 44 crew member.


In Argentina, speculate about the "British track" in the disappearance of the submarine "San-Juan"


Air Force aircraft and naval ships of several South American countries joined the search for the submarine. These are Brazil, Chile and Uruguay. The services offered by the United States, South Africa and Britain. At the same time in the Argentine segment of social networks it is to Britain that there is close attention due to the loss of the submarine. Some users have suggested that the incident "was not without British intervention." The reason for such judgments is that Argentina is well aware of the situation around the Malvinas (Falkland) Islands and how aggressively London is able to act in the area. Recall that Argentina insist on its sovereignty over the archipelago, Britain declares that Falklands belong to it.



NASA experts also joined the search for the Argentine Navy submarine. Data is collected from US satellites and from the aircraft of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration to determine the possible end point of a submarine connection.

According to updated data, the last time the signal from the submarine was recorded approximately 370 km north-west of the Malvinas Islands. Currently searches are ongoing, no signals are recorded.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 18 November 2017 07: 34 New
    +2
    To the deep regret of the Argentines, everything is coming to the point that soon the signal “sabsank” will sound on the air - “the submarine sank!” The hope of salvation died together with the crew of the submarine. .....
    1. VChK-M
      VChK-M 18 November 2017 07: 39 New
      +3
      Yes, here it’s a no brainer, the Anglo-Saxons have trained .. They decided to repeat the Falkland conflict
      1. 210ox
        210ox 18 November 2017 07: 47 New
        18
        I don’t think it’s impudent .. Most likely the malfunction led to disaster. Although everything is possible. But they will not be impudent if the enemy lies under the baseboard. It’s a pity.
        Quote: Cheka-M
        Yes, here it’s a no brainer, the Anglo-Saxons have trained .. They decided to repeat the Falkland conflict
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 18 November 2017 07: 51 New
          +1
          Unfortunately, most likely, the disappeared Argentinean submarine will be found with a combat hole on board! If at all they find! And, surely, the "Englishwoman" tried!
          1. Dashout
            Dashout 18 November 2017 10: 41 New
            +4
            Quote: Tatiana
            Unfortunately, most likely, the disappeared Argentinean submarine will be found with a combat hole on board! If at all they find! And, surely, the "Englishwoman" tried!

            100% will be blamed on Russians !!!
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 18 November 2017 11: 58 New
            +8
            Tatyana, I completely agree with you. I hope that I will live to see the time when they say who torpedoed the Kursk.
            1. misti1973
              misti1973 18 November 2017 17: 35 New
              0
              The joke is that Kursk most likely torpedoed itself! Torpedoes Flurry full shit :)
              1. rumatam
                rumatam 18 November 2017 19: 32 New
                +5
                how do you know?
          3. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 18 November 2017 12: 19 New
            +6
            Quote: Tatiana
            And, surely, the "Englishwoman" tried!

            With the same success it can be argued that the polka tried
            More precisely, the descendant of Polish emigrants, Eliana Maria Kravchik, is the first woman submariner of the Argentine Navy, who is part of the crew of the missing submarine, because "the woman on board is always not good!"
            Do not bullshit ..
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 18 November 2017 16: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              Quote: Tatiana
              And, surely, the "Englishwoman" tried!

              With the same success it can be argued that the polka tried
              More precisely, the descendant of Polish emigrants Eliana Maria Kravczyk is the first woman submariner of the Argentinean Navy, a crew member of the missing submarine, because "a woman on board is always not good!"
              Do not bullshit ..
              It’s you who don’t attach the love of men to women on the ship, because of which there were fights between men, to foreign policy!
              When in world history did Britain rejoice at the presence and strengthening of the Navy of other countries - like the Navy of its potential victims - in its colonial policy? Give at least one historical example! England has always pursued a policy of destroying naval ships of other countries!
          4. misti1973
            misti1973 18 November 2017 17: 43 New
            +1
            No, rather they encountered the “American” :) They never look where they are swimming!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 18 November 2017 18: 02 New
              +2
              misti1973
              No, rather they encountered the “American” :) They never look where they are swimming!
              This is according to the principle, as in Spain there was a case with ships of the US Navy with a Spanish lighthouse?
              The story of the American aircraft carrier and the Spanish lighthouse, Mikhail Zadornov
              1. Dashout
                Dashout 19 November 2017 10: 42 New
                +3
                Thanks! Reminded .. laughing
        2. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 18 November 2017 09: 29 New
          +7
          Quote: 210ox
          I don’t think it’s impudent ..

          Yes, they seem to have a submarine
      2. avt
        avt 18 November 2017 08: 52 New
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        Quote: Cheka-M
        Yes, here and a no brainer, the Anglo-Saxons have trained ..

        Oh yeah !? And why not, Russian hackers? wassat Do you have any idea about the state of the Argentinean "fleet"? So for a minute, as a keepsake, the last replenishment of it - 4 seem to be Arctic supplymen of new Polish-built Soviet times. Tango of course they dance the best ....
        1. VChK-M
          VChK-M 18 November 2017 08: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: avt
          Do you have any idea about the state of the Argentinean "fleet"?

          Or maybe I'm writing from this very submarine .. wassat
          But seriously, I’m sure that they drowned it. You can’t train in Russian anymore!
          1. avt
            avt 18 November 2017 09: 00 New
            10
            Quote: Cheka-M
            But seriously, I’m sure that they drowned it ..

            bully ..that faith me-I-I-I kept a dark night-ah-ah ... " bully I deduce sect adherents from glitches on a paid basis bully
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 18 November 2017 09: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: avt
              I deduce sect adherents from glitches on a paid basis

              good
            2. VChK-M
              VChK-M 18 November 2017 09: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: avt
              Quote: Cheka-M
              But seriously, I’m sure that they drowned it ..

              bully ..that faith me-I-I-I kept a dark night-ah-ah ... " bully I deduce sect adherents from glitches on a paid basis bully

              Do not ponder avt ... wink I’ve seen such "hatchers" here on the site .. hi
              1. avt
                avt 18 November 2017 11: 09 New
                +7
                Quote: Cheka-M
                I’ve seen such "hatchers" here on the site ..

                With today's registration? bully
                But because Kolya Taraskin is a young isho.
                bully
                Quote: donavi49
                There the whole fleet breaks down regularly. But if a thread of "La Argentina" - the engines die, then they will drag her home by tow.

                And then just at the wall heels from outboard water.
                Quote: donavi49
                It won’t work out like that.

                Exactly what, especially on the subfloor. As we recall the surprised statement of ours, even after the K-8 catastrophe - ,, We were so taught - if the submarine surfaced, then it would not drown. " request This project TR-1700 is already 32 years old! And Az sinful very much doubts that the tango dancers kept it in good condition with planned, high-quality repairs, and the crew at the proper professional level precisely because of natural slovenliness and fierce lack of money
                Quote: donavi49
                They have a very high accident rate. The reason is there is no money for repairs. Extension + blue electrical tape + extension, and so on until it breaks completely. Here is the motto of the Argentine Army (not just the Navy).

                good So especially shaved and no need to strain.
                1. Doctor Evil
                  Doctor Evil 18 November 2017 12: 23 New
                  +3
                  Shark, didn’t you recognize Mikhan?
                  1. avt
                    avt 18 November 2017 12: 34 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Dr. Evil
                    Shark, didn’t you recognize Mikhan?

                    request
                    God, what a type! Bravo, bravo!
                    What to do - old age is not a joy, I just now, "carbine cartridges" did not immediately recognize bully и
                    . Ingenious! Listen, I don’t recognize you in makeup! Who are you? Sergey Bondarchuk? um ... no. Yuri ... Nikulin - oh ... no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh my god! .. (taps his forehead) Innokenty Smoktunovsky (approaches the king) ... Kesha! .. (pats him on the cheek)
                    bully
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          2. Deniska999
            Deniska999 18 November 2017 09: 47 New
            +4
            Not tired of writing frank nonsense? You change accounts like gloves, but the mind does not increase.
          3. donavi49
            donavi49 18 November 2017 09: 52 New
            +6
            There the whole fleet breaks down regularly. But if a thread of "La Argentina" - the engines die, then they will drag her home by tow. It won’t work out like that.

            They have a very high accident rate. The reason is there is no money for repairs. Extension + blue electrical tape + extension, and so on until it breaks completely. Here is the motto of the Argentine Army (not just the Navy).
      3. AUL
        AUL 18 November 2017 16: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Cheka-M
        Yes, here it’s a no brainer, the Anglo-Saxons have trained .. They decided to repeat the Falkland conflict
        And what, do you have any objective data for such a "conclusion"? Or is he simply overthinking in patriotism?
        1. Dashout
          Dashout 19 November 2017 10: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: AUL
          Or is he simply overthinking in patriotism?

          Is patriotism bad?
    2. stolz
      stolz 18 November 2017 12: 27 New
      +1
      Air forces and Navy ships of several South American countries joined in the search for the submarine. These are Brazil, Chile and Uruguay. The USA, South Africa and Britain offered their services.

      Sweden needs to be called, she has a great experience, the Swedes have been searching for Russian submarines for about 50 years, so far, however, to no avail.
  2. destination
    destination 18 November 2017 07: 39 New
    +6
    I don’t know if Grand Fleet was involved in Her Majesty the Queen, but ...
    Rest in Peace on the Sea Day, Sailors ... Our work is such ...
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 November 2017 07: 49 New
    +4
    Submarines ... Either everything, or nobody ... What happened there, and how - it is rarely possible to find out ...
  4. japs
    japs 18 November 2017 08: 54 New
    +9
    Depths in the Argentine Sea from 1 to 2 km. It is not known how much she passed.
    A chance to find her scanty. Unless, mattresses will give data from their tracking stations ...
    There is little hope for this.
    Sorry for the sailors.
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 18 November 2017 09: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: japs
      A chance to find her scanty. Unless, mattresses will give data from their tracking stations ..

      But aren't emergency buoys on modern submarines already applied?
      1. water
        water 18 November 2017 15: 33 New
        +3
        Emergency buoys of course apply. But, in order to quickly find them you need to have developed forces of search and rescue support for the actions of submarines. And if they find buoys, then you need to save the submariners. The question arises - what? Indeed, in the Argentine Navy there are no specialized vessels - Submarine Rescuers. It can be seen from all that the forces of the PSO of the Navy of Argentina, like the United States itself, in the hope of modular systems and robotics destroyed their ships - Submarine rescuers, as non-liquid equipment. Now submariners are paying for it. Adapt their lives.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 November 2017 08: 58 New
    +2
    I won’t say anything about the British (although it was worth it). Submariners are constantly at risk in connection with the performance of their duties, so accidents related to fires, explosions, collisions, etc. unfortunately happen.
  6. Magic archer
    Magic archer 18 November 2017 09: 02 New
    +4
    I read about the Navy of Argentina. Mostly old vessels. If you recall the Falkland conflict, then they were armed with ships from the Second World War. And this submarine is also almost thirty years old. I will not say anything, but I'm more inclined to the accident .. I hope the boat will find ...
  7. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 18 November 2017 10: 01 New
    +1
    The same song as with Kursk ... True, Russia then wiped herself away and did not begin to look for the REAL culprit in the disaster (she was too friendly with him). But the Argentines seem going to go to the end. True, the option is not excluded that pind.osnya drowned the boat, and wants to substitute the Britons, as an edification for "brexit". Now, there is a lot of opportunity to quietly tear down a boat. Starting from unmanned underwater vehicles disguised as sharks or dolphins and ending with intelligent mines exploding only under a specific submarine.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 18 November 2017 10: 10 New
      +8
      Quote: Former battalion commander
      The same song as with Kursk

      As you already got with this song .. Let's start with the fact that one torpedo boat of this type cannot be sunk and most importantly .. you just do not respect the crew of the boat .. which not only allowed itself to be fired, but also made no attempts dodge and use lts ..
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 18 November 2017 12: 12 New
        +3
        Gennady, if you are so smart, why is this “hole” in the area of ​​the torpedo compartment?
        1. Flatter
          Flatter 18 November 2017 12: 24 New
          0
          The cut off nose compartment allowed to determine how the accident developed, which turned into a disaster
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 18 November 2017 12: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: Flatter
            The cut off nose compartment allowed to determine how the accident developed, which turned into a disaster

            Ingenious! Congenial!
            1. Flatter
              Flatter 18 November 2017 13: 01 New
              0
              And draw specific conclusions about the causes of the disaster.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 18 November 2017 13: 05 New
                +2
                Well, yes, the old expired training torpedo was pushed into the newest submarine! Ingenious!
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 18 November 2017 20: 44 New
                  0
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Well, yes, the old expired training torpedo was pushed into the newest submarine

                  YES, even if the fuel of the torpedo and exploded .. This is not the reason. Roughly speaking, this is a detonator. Something else exploded. So it blew all the bulkheads to the reactor compartment, the most durable in the boat. Post of a signalman .. a width of one and a half meters .. after the explosion became eighteen cm .. There were cases of a torpedo explosion in the apparatus .., such damage did not occur ..

                  Knows what it is? This is a hydrogen explosion on a Hindu diesel boat ..
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 18 November 2017 20: 28 New
          +4
          Quote: sabakina
          from what is this "hole" in the area of ​​the torpedo compartment

          YES already chewed a hundred times. This is one of the technological holes that the divers cut through to determine the condition of the hull. I remind you that the Kursk case suffered very serious damage at the junction of the first and second compartments, in fact there was a hole at the top, and the nose was kept only below. Therefore, it was decided to cut it off. Here divers and cut such holes to determine where to cut off the bow.
          The second one. A torpedo cannot penetrate a hull like a bullet. It explodes at a distance from the hull and the damage looks different. Well, even suppose that a land mine exploded on the boat’s hull .. not very flat edges at the explosion hole .. not?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 20: 35 New
            +3
            Quote: dvina71
            about one of the technological holes that cut through the divers,

            With such dents around the edges? If they told me to remove unnecessary flaw, I would do the same.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 18 November 2017 21: 04 New
              +3
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              With such dents around the edges? If they told me to remove unnecessary flaw, I would do the same.

              A flaw from what? Torpedo speed approx. 50 knots .. 80 km / h Weight approx. 2.t .. If the hull of the boat is pierced by such cans ..., then there is no need to talk about any 400m .. It will leak at 50 meters.
              I don’t understand .. do you really want the Ameirkans to sink the boat? You do not care that this is a combat boat ..having a means of self-defense, that she took part in exercises .. where she was hiding, and the surface guards were looking for, do you think that the acoustics quit the post? That the commander did not give the command to change course and shoot the LC? ..
              Yes ... the Americans destroyed Kursk, but not a torpedo. Not from a good life in Kursk there were accumulators from a decommissioned boat, they accepted the EBN directly into the Kursk fleet, the military commander didn’t take them into any boat ... At that time, many disasters occurred. ., the size is smaller .. there was a helicopter fall, a fall .. that they were beaten by the Americans? NO .. just people and equipment didn’t fly into the sky for years .., there was no fuel stupidly.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 21: 33 New
                +3
                I mean it hurts an even hole. Personally, my opinion is that the commander of Memphis panicked and fired a torpedo.
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 18 November 2017 21: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Personally, my opinion is that the commander of Memphis panicked and fired a torpedo.

                  What is the truth? And what caused such a panic ... is it really kraken? You can understand that the version SHOT our boat ... namely, execution, not defeat .. is humiliating for the dead crew and the Navy as a whole? Yes, and it’s time for the shipbuilders to retire ..
                  Here tell me ... why the Americans torpedoes that are aimed at the screw? They also have these .. hit .. submarine hull in half ..
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 21: 54 New
                    +3
                    I don’t remember exactly, but it seems that they wrote about such a version at Autonomy. Memphis went to Kursk, and he just prepared the launch of the torpedo. The commander of Memphis regarded this as a threat, and fired a torpedo. What's so humiliating? It was humiliating when Dygalo said for almost a week that they were knocking, knocking ...
                    1. dvina71
                      dvina71 18 November 2017 22: 29 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      It seems that they wrote about such a version at Autonomy.

                      At first I did not want to comment on this nonsense ..
                      Firstly ... Mammphis quietly entered the training zone, where the search for submarines took place, discovered an enemy submarine, went on a combat course, launched the only torpedo that destroyed the enemy submarine’s body in half and left the training zone .. didn’t I miss anything?
                      Do you know what that means? At least it’s better for our submarines not to leave the port .. let them shoot straight from the pier.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 18 November 2017 23: 07 New
                        +3
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Mamphis quietly entered the training zone, where measures were taken to search for submarines

                        Again, I messed up everything. There were even two boats nearby. Toledo yet. And Kursk was not split in half, the nose was cut off at the bottom of it.
                    2. dvina71
                      dvina71 18 November 2017 23: 12 New
                      +2
                      There were even two boats nearby. Toledo yet.

                      .... you can cut our submarine fleet into pins .. yes and above-water too ..
              2. Flatter
                Flatter 18 November 2017 22: 17 New
                0
                In the “Moment of Truth” by Karaulov, somewhere in the middle of 2000, it was noted that the factory manufacturing battery cans for nuclear powered ships, the St. Petersburg Red Triangle, was closed and they are of very poor quality and are being purchased in China. happened to see, were two meters high.
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            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 19 November 2017 00: 49 New
              +7
              Quote: watermark
              The metal is cut to analyze the tracks in order to determine the name and nationality of the boat

              Do not share the source of knowledge? True, interesting.
              Although IMHO for such purposes a piece ... will be small.
              In addition, to determine the "name" of the boat on the traces of metal on metal ... it is somewhere beyond the limits of the possible.
              PS: what is analytical chemistry, I know, if that.
            2. dvina71
              dvina71 19 November 2017 00: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: watermark
              But, this is not a technological hole, it is a cut-out part of a light hull that hit the feed stabilizer rammed by the Kursk foreign submarine. The metal is cut to analyze the tracks in order to determine the name and nationality of the boat.

              And who told you this? The blow fell in this place .. yes? Ie two elephants .. the size of a house .. poked a penny in diameter 50cm .. really? The further the more idiotic versions .. And earlier, when the boats collided, they also cut a piece .. for analysis?
              It always surprises me .. apparently people don’t imagine .. what kind of service is there on the submarine and they believe all sorts of rubbish .. I suspect Kursk just walked in your version and suddenly the enemy flew into the red .. accident is inevitable ..? Here you tell me .. navigators certainly have maps of the places where they hang around, but the currents change their profile very quickly and quickly .. and here you have to use equipment .. It’s always on .. How is it possible to miss the approach of the whole house? So tell me .. do you drive in a car with your eyes closed?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 19 November 2017 01: 12 New
                +3
                Quote: dvina71
                Kursk just walked and suddenly a red warrior flew out .. an accident is inevitable.

                Again you turn everything around. Memphis was taking data from Kursk, and came too close. That attracted them. Remember, discovered a life buoy? Then it turned out that this was not our buoy, but an American one.
                1. Dashout
                  Dashout 19 November 2017 10: 54 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Again you turn everything around.

                  Honestly, I understand little about PL, but objections and arguments dvina71 more convincing
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 19 November 2017 11: 32 New
                    +3
                    Yes, I myself do not understand much in the submarine, I write from memory that the press wrote in due time. Collisions of submarines are not uncommon when one of them takes acoustic data from the other. A little memory freshened. Toledo collided with Kursk, and when he fled, Kursk prepared for firing. Then Memphis fired a torpedo. This is just one version. Toledo then tearing up for repairs got up, somewhere in Europe.
                    1. dvina71
                      dvina71 19 November 2017 17: 36 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Yes, I myself do not understand much in PL, I write from memory that at one time the press wrote

                      And all this happens in the training zone of the SF .... I don’t even know how to comment on this ..
              2. water
                water 19 November 2017 17: 16 New
                +2
                Quote: dvina71
                And who told you this? The blow fell in this place .. yes? Ie two elephants .. the size of a house .. poked a penny in diameter 50cm .. really? The further the more idiotic versions .. And earlier, when the boats collided, they also cut a piece .. for analysis?
                It always surprises me .. apparently people don’t imagine .. what kind of service is there on the submarine and they believe all sorts of rubbish .. I suspect Kursk just walked in your version and suddenly the enemy flew into the red .. accident is inevitable ..? Here you tell me .. navigators certainly have maps of the places where they hang around, but the currents change their profile very quickly and quickly .. and here you have to use equipment .. It’s always on .. How is it possible to miss the approach of the whole house? So tell me .. do you drive in a car with your eyes closed?

                My friend! Ramming stroke is a stroke of the nasal extremity. And when analyzing accidents, I do not need to say anything. It’s enough for me that I see. For words, for the most part, serve only to hide their thoughts.
                And "the approach of the whole house" - to miss completely possible. After all, the acoustics works in a passive mode, and the course angles are nasal - the screws are shielded by the housing - especially so that it would be more understandable to you. By the way, the cut out "heel" in diameter is not 50 cm, but 120.
                As I already wrote, and then unsuccessfully deleted, in this “patch” the place from the impact (bulk) on the light body of the Kursk with the stern left side stabilizer of an unknown submarine. And metal analysis at impact sites is always done. And the second participant in the navigation incident is always determined. This is not a traffic police with traffic police.
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 19 November 2017 17: 35 New
                  +2
                  Quote: watermark
                  As I wrote, and then unsuccessfully deleted,

                  Here you write .. write .. But I personally know a few people from Kursk .. a signalman, commander of the bch2 (though I lost contact with him after the academy), I know those who built and handed over the Kursk fleet.
                  And why should I believe your writings?
                  1. water
                    water 19 November 2017 19: 09 New
                    +2
                    They told you how events developed?
                    1. dvina71
                      dvina71 19 November 2017 23: 33 New
                      +1
                      Quote: watermark
                      They told you how events developed?

                      They knew the condition of the boat. According to them .. the tragedy was inevitable .. by the crew it was difficult to compensate for the technical flaws. All this is connected with a complete set of a used boat with parts and simply non-working .. for example, gas analyzers in compartments. I had to use portable ones and report to the CPU on communication, and there they were added to the system.
                      I can’t say what became the cause of the tragedy (a torpedo fuel explosion in a compartment or a collision with another sub), but the reason is the general condition of the equipment at that time. Both in the Navy and in the Armed Forces.
    2. avt
      avt 18 November 2017 11: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: Former battalion commander
      True, the option is not excluded that pind.osnya drowned the boat, and wants to substitute the Britons, as an edification for "brexit".

      wassat Oh yeah! Well, really
      Dear transmission! On Saturday, almost crying,
      All Kanatchikova Dacha to the TV was torn.
      Instead of eating, washing, pricking and forgetting,
      The whole insane hospital at the screen gathered.

      Well
      Quote: Former battalion commander
      pind.five

      She is so
      The voices for thousands of miles hurt our souls
      We do not stifle America in vain, oh, we do not crush Israel in vain,
      With all their hostile essence they undermine and harm
      They feed us, give us bermuta about the mysterious square.
      wassat I see only a way out ... two out of one wassat Or
      you need to drink a triangle, for three you give it,
      He broke up and pours, the triangle will be drunk,
      Whether it is a parallelepiped, whether it is a circle, a louse!
      or
      Lecturers from the program, those who are somehow
      They talk about failure and make people nervous
      Take us, doomed, triangle of you scientists
      Turns into insane, but us - on the contrary.

      Let the crazy idea, don’t cut it in haste
      Call us soon through the bastard of the head physician,
      Sincerely, date, signature, answer us, otherwise
      If you do not respond, we will write in "Sportloto"!
      bully
    3. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 18 November 2017 16: 55 New
      +1
      In memory of the crew of the Kursk submarine

      Maybe tomorrow will not come
      Hiding in salt water.
      Maybe at least time will dull the suffering.
      Maybe even in a dream
      We will be together, seconds, moments
      In the tight plexus of arms.
      And do not destroy love by awakening ...
      Only hardly, but suddenly!? ...
      Eternal memory echoes chime
      Loud praise and merit,
      New holes in mossy epaulettes,
      Chewing gum from benefits and services.
      We’ll flood the truth by 108 meters,
      Cover with a lie on top.
      118 are married to Death,
      Each of them is a man!
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 18 November 2017 10: 24 New
    +1
    This is the most understandable explanation and is close to the goal. Nobody has canceled the thirst for revenge.
  9. sabakina
    sabakina 18 November 2017 11: 54 New
    +2
    1. Why does the submarine have such a big nose?
    2. Does the submarine have no automatic beacon?
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  11. Coconut
    Coconut 18 November 2017 12: 33 New
    0
    The British there "accidentally" lost a homing torpedo .. lol
  12. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 18 November 2017 12: 51 New
    +3
    What a pity that now comments can not be negative. Well, where does the Englishwoman ??? !!! Args themselves brought their armed forces to complete insignificance. And about the Kursk, yes, I would also like to know the truth. This is a bleeding wound.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 18 November 2017 12: 52 New
    +3
    Alas. Argentina, as you know, is a meat superpower. There is nothing other than meat export. Total stagnation. And the army and equipment in general are falling apart.
    1. MOLODCHIK
      MOLODCHIK 18 November 2017 13: 04 New
      0
      and they were also very fond of the Nazis. and sheltered them after the war.

      Excerpt from Vysotsky’s song on this subject:

      So, you brothers do not try,
      And we’ll work with coolness -
      One for all and all for one".
      ... he served in Tallinn under Stalin -
      Now lies heaped up -
      We humanly feel sorry for him ...
  14. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 18 November 2017 13: 54 New
    +2
    Yesterday, from the Argentine forum, allegedly intercepting the talks between the military and the Spanish: “There was a fire in the submarine in the torpedo (front battery?) Compartment when they were submerged, they controlled it and surfaced, but due to a very severe storm, they decided to again dive into periscopic depth. They were in touch and moved on feed batteries. Because it was hard because of the storm, they decided to dive and since then nothing has been heard about them. "
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 18 November 2017 14: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: Oleg7700
      Yesterday, from the Argentine forum, allegedly intercepting the talks between the military and the Spanish: “There was a fire in the submarine in the torpedo (front battery?) Compartment when they were submerged, they controlled it and surfaced, but due to a very severe storm, they decided to again dive into periscopic depth.

      I do not want to belittle the qualifications of Argentinean submariners, because I do not know THEIR systems of struggle for survivability.
      But the smoke of compartments in case of fire is inevitable if they are not sealed, and the fire is not conducted by the inhabitants of the compartment.
      Failure of the ballast system mechanisms / pumps could cause the submarine to "dive" to a depth where it could not emerge.
      1. Oleg7700
        Oleg7700 18 November 2017 14: 38 New
        +1
        Boat type TR-1700, 85 years, 66 m. 2264 tons of underwater, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, quite wow, very sad so far ...
  15. Sergei75
    Sergei75 18 November 2017 14: 05 New
    0
    Let's see how the American SOSUS (Sound Surveillance Undersea System) will work, if not, then K-129 is definitely on their conscience.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 18 November 2017 14: 09 New
      +6
      Off the coast of Argentina this is not and was not ....
  16. Normal ok
    Normal ok 18 November 2017 20: 52 New
    +1
    In Argentina, speculate about the "British track" in the disappearance of the submarine "San-Juan"

    What else should they tell? That the army is chronically underfunded? Or that the submarine was in disrepair? Of course they will talk about the machinations of enemies)))
  17. Chever
    Chever 18 November 2017 21: 48 New
    +2
    What nonsense I read in the comments: the British are to blame, the Englishwoman tried. Someone even wrote, "... pind.osnya drowned the boat, and wants to substitute the Britons, as an edification for the" brexit. " fool
  18. Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 19 November 2017 06: 31 New
    +1


    From the history of this conflict