Clone of the Russian HQs: China’s military aviation has shown its strength

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The capabilities of the PLA Air Force over the past 5 years have increased significantly, and Russia played a significant role in this. In 1992, China became the first foreign state to adopt the Soviet Su-27 fighter. The country has now launched a release of a clone of this aircraft called Shenyang J-11. In 1993, the Chinese received C-300 air defense systems and, through 15, an analogue of the Russian HQ-9 system was born. The same can be said about Shenyang J-15 (copy Su-33), Hongdu L-15 (copy Yak-130), etc. Perhaps in the coming 5 years, we can expect the appearance of clones of the recently acquired Su-35 from Russia.

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    1. +2
      17 November 2017 19: 56
      All the same, it’s good that we didn’t sell the Su-34s to the Chinese.
    2. +1
      17 November 2017 21: 35
      IMHO, they have a terrible landing, to sew 10 million parachutes and throw Chinese paratroopers on them is like a wind in a field of dandelions)
    3. +4
      17 November 2017 21: 37
      Is it possible to consider the sale of weapons to China a betrayal? Any experts?
      1. +1
        18 November 2017 10: 34
        Quote: Perviy
        Can arms sales be considered a betrayal

        Now 80% of trade falls on sales of high technology, including military. Therefore, for the last 20 years, almost no one has been buying ready-made weapons without the opportunity to acquire the latest technology. The only exception is countries in which there is really a war, they simply do not have time for this. As for military technology, the cycle from the moment of sale to the time of implementation for the simplest digital radio stations is at least 3 years, for more complex missile and aviation technologies, the cycle is at least 5 years. A definite plus for the buyer's country is the possibility of minimizing the risks associated with scientific research and obtaining good competitive products, albeit belatedly. But there is a significant minus, which consists in the fact that when the technology is acquired, the state is forced to restructure its scientific and technical potential to study and develop it, and this is to the detriment of new research in this area. As a result, there is the effect of a systemic lag of 3-5 years, and the country the technology seller receives additional financing i.e. accelerating the creation of new technologies.
        1. +4
          20 November 2017 15: 54
          This is so, but provided that the seller of technology they (technology) should be put on stream. Honestly, I don’t see in our country a modern scientific, technological, interdisciplinary and interdisciplinary environment that ensures the growth of technology, a scientific and technical reserve. Perhaps it is ahead, but so far it is not.
          1. +1
            20 November 2017 16: 35
            Quote: Dashout
            from a technology seller, they (technologies) should be put on stream. Honestly, I don’t see in our country a modern scientific, technological, interdisciplinary and interdisciplinary environment that ensures the growth of technology, scientific and technical groundwork

            Partly right, Serdyukov ruined a large number of scientific schools at universities and research institutes. But most of them have recovered in recent years, and it seems to me to work well. Perhaps there are continuity problems in some areas of rocket and radioelectronic technologies, but after young research teams get bumps from their mistakes, this problem will gradually disappear. The main thing here is the formation of sustainable scientific and technical teams that will work and develop efficiently.
            1. +4
              20 November 2017 19: 46
              Quote: Vita VKO
              The main thing here is the formation of sustainable scientific and technical teams that will work and develop efficiently.

              I said I agree! Our youth is good, smart - they will catch up and overtake. Nevertheless, all these are local centers of creativity. Combine them should a new scientific and technological and interdisciplinary instrumental platform. This would give a new impetus to the development of innovative technologies in all areas. So far, we have local breakthroughs and under them we need new instrumental support.
              1. +4
                20 November 2017 20: 08
                Quote: Dashout
                The main thing here is the formation of sustainable scientific and technical teams that will work and develop efficiently.

                Reread and decided to add. I noted the need for a new instrumental environment. Without its availability, I would not risk selling the latest technological developments, hoping that there are more efficient ones in the stock (developments). It is possible that with a modern instrumental platform and having received an impulse from our developments, competitors will be able to go far in parallel courses that are not relevant to a particular product. It will not be great.
                But who makes the sale decisions must have figured it all out ... hopefully ...
    4. +4
      18 November 2017 01: 51
      And the continuation of this list is the S-400 and the development of a civil wide-body aircraft, and that especially upsets the new PD-35 engine together with China. China cannot copy engines, so it will cheaply receive technology from Russia. No country in the world is selling its latest technology, and if you give your finger to China, it will bite your hand off.
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    6. +2
      19 November 2017 12: 01
      It will not lead to good. China is very tricky and at the right time can bite off a piece of “something” if it hasn’t.
    7. 0
      21 November 2017 17: 03
      Here with whom I would not want to fight finally ...

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