In Syria, hit the photo destroyed T-90

The appearance on the Internet of photos of destroyed tank The T-90A raises many questions. No matter what IS propagandists say (the group is banned in the Russian Federation), there is no exact data on under what circumstances the given combat vehicle died, writes Messenger of Mordovia.

According to military expert Alexei Khlopotov, “so far there is no information confirming that the tank was hit in an anti-tank weapon, so it is possible that we face a fighting vehicle captured by militants about a month ago in Kurayba during a sandstorm.”

Perhaps the tank was destroyed by a blow VKS. For example, a bomb fell on him or near him. “The explosion was of such strength that it disrupted the“ Contact-5 ”dynamic protection placed on it from the outside of the tower,” the author of the material Lev Romanov comments on the photo.

It is possible that the militants themselves laid explosives in the tank and undermined it. As a result, the car turned into a pile of scrap metal.

In any case, the T-90 tanks, in contrast to the American Abrams and the German Leopard-2, demonstrated enviable durability and reliability, the author concludes.

Comments

[Vard]

At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...

[destination]

I’m not a tanker, but ... Something somehow ... I can’t believe that a tank was killed in a fair battle ... They blew up on the retreat so that the enemy didn’t get, that's what it looks like from my bell tower ...Tankers, of course, will better explain ...

[Lord of the Sith]

The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

[esaul]

Quote: Vard

At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...

Quote: destination

I’m not a tanker, but ... Something somehow ... I can’t believe that a tank was killed in a fair battle ... They blew up on the retreat so that the enemy didn’t get, that's what it looks like from my bell tower ...Tankers, of course, will better explain ...

Quote: Lord of the Sith

The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

And you are not alone in your assumptions, colleagues. On the Internet, this info is already widely discussed and a point of view similar to yours prevails.

[svp67]

Quote: Sith Lord

The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

Before that, there was infa that the Syrians from T-72 managed to drive a shell into the side of the previously lost T-90, it is quite possible that this is it ...

[donavi49]

Not. There are two other tanks captured in Aleppo and shot down in Idlib (over 500 km distance between them).

[uav80]

25/10/2017
Syrian units in the Mayadin area lost the T-90. Images appeared on the web of this tank, which apparently does not have any serious damage.

[hrych]

Quote: Sith Lord

The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

Although the top and torn, but the detonation of ammunition was not unique. Those. somehow, the ammunition was missing. There is no sign of fire, and the tower would not have flown around the corner of the dead building. Therefore, an unambiguously staged shot, to one degree or another

[PANZER]

The lower shoulder strap of the tower was torn from its place, plus, apparently, the left side of the car was torn apart, the tower was on the ground, the gun was torn from recoil devices, and the commander’s turret was missing. It seems that there was a detonation of cc in the fighting compartment (BC or stupidly undermining inside the cc), the tower flew off the shoulder strap and, when it fell, rested the cannon on the ground, otherwise how can we explain the cannon’s breakdown from the PU. Something like this. There were such shots in Chechen photos.

[PANZER]

What then turned the top of the case, if there was no explosion? Did it ever occur to you that the tower could fly over this building?

[hrych]

Quote: PANZER

What then turned the top of the case, if there was no explosion? Did it ever occur to you that the tower could fly over this building?

The building is frame, there is a concrete reinforced lattice, and the walls are laid with concrete blocks, they can be knocked out with a kick, and then the explosion threw up several tons of iron by twenty meters. Pay attention to the window opening opposite the tank, it is thin and almost not injured, there is not enough part of one block at the bottom of the opening. Corkas could have withstood and all the blocks would have endured blocks. The detonation of the ammunition, as well as the cumulative stream, cause a fire at high temperature, and the battle gear of the tower is clean, almost glistening.

[PANZER]

I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yerema. Take a look at the shoulder strap of the tower, and in the opening of the window building, which is nearby, and which is under the shoulder strap. There you can see the sky, but there should be a left side of the tank. The bend of the pallet up and the lack of a side speaks about something to you? The nature of the damage to the machine indicates that there was an explosion in the open space.

[donavi49]

It is doubtful. If this is this tank, then they managed to overtake it at 70 km. Moreover, he was captured when there was a sandstorm and the aircraft worked for Idlib. That is - if the same T-90 - then it has already been tracked clearly separately.

[iouris]

Any tank can be destroyed in battle, even if it is a T-90.

[stolz]

It’s a pity the car, it’s nefig to send such to Syria, and the T-55 would be enough for them.

[hrych]

Quote: Stolz

nefig there were such to send to Syria

They sent it to be tested in battle, so even its death is an invaluable experience for engineers. Of course, if the weak point is a tanker, then I'm sorry

[Partyzan]

Quote: hrych

if the weak point is a tanker, then excuse me

there are many videos on youtube where crews throw cars at the first danger, however Asia

[tomket]

Quote: Vard

Again, it feels like this tower was just put on the ground ... in short, again, a fake.

Not ISIS, but the opera and ballet theater .....

[Reserve officer]

Quote: Vard

At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...

The same thoughts. The wall of the building is almost untouched, and the tower is around the corner. And the sand around is even, no sign of a tower hitting the ground. It seems that the crane was removed and put next.
How the tank died is not clear, but what we see is the production, the scenery of the movie.

[Monarchist]

What's the point?

[Leeds]

In short, as I understand it, CIA directors in every igilovsky platoon. And the crane organized and filming.
But, the remnants of the former brains of observation decided - "Fake." It causes only a stretched smile of regret. And well-wishers of Russia in general laugh in a voice, as they have recently done over the Moscow Region.

[Magic archer]

Caterpillars and the hull seem to be intact ... The ammunition stock detonated ??? If the mine exploded then the hull usually turns into a pile of iron ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Magic Archer

Caterpillars and the hull seem to be intact ... The ammunition stock detonated ??? If the mine exploded then the hull usually turns into a pile of iron ...

Likely. If they were to be judged by the Merkavs who ran into the funds.

[dvina71]

Quote: Magic Archer

the fins and the body seem to be intact

Nifiga se..a whole..there is a ring on which the tower rotates, torn out .. and the hull back parted at the seams ..

[Magic archer]

You can’t tell from the photo that the case is amen. I saw a photo of the abrams after the blasting on a land mine. It’s not like caterpillars, there the body is barely distinguishable! But here the damage is not so strong. Although there may be less explosive force

[Romario_Argo]

self-explosion most likely!

[The leader of the Redskins]

Always noted that absolute weapons do not exist!

[Shadow of darkness]

There is no absolute defense, but an absolute weapon can be! What can be opposed to a nuclear explosion now? I’ll keep silent about the elements. But there really is no absolute protection, even the bunker does not give a full guarantee.

[The leader of the Redskins]

You are not right. For a nuclear explosion to occur, you need to deliver the charge to the place, and the carriers are currently quite vulnerable. With the same logic, I can fend off - what can be opposed to a projectile exploding in the fighting compartment of a tank? You say - armor, DZ and so on. At the expense of a nuclear explosion, I fend off-missile defense, air defense, electronic warfare, etc.

[Shadow of darkness]

At the expense of a nuclear explosion, I fend off-missile defense, air defense, electronic warfare, etc.

After the first stratospheric explosion of a powerful nuclear weapon, you can forget about all of the above for at least half an hour. It's not for nothing that I divided the weapon as such and the defense.

With the same logic, I can counteract - what can be opposed to a projectile exploding in the fighting compartment of a tank? You say - armor, DZ and so on.

What do you counteract from the existing tank protection to an ordinary steel bar weighing 500 kg, dropped from a height of 10 kilometers? Will the walls of the bunker help you, if the nuclear charge of hundreds of kilotons nevertheless burst through all missile defense and air defense?
The means of attack have long surpassed the means of defense, and where it is not possible to overcome the defense qualitatively, they overcome quantitatively!

[Herculesic]

In a couple of months, our specialists will restore it, it will be better than the new! If the tank has at least a couple of cats left it can be restored. True, this will be essentially a remake already.

[faiver]

Well, where are the tank specialists? and then fortunetelling on coffee grounds ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

Well, where are the tank specialists? and then fortunetelling on coffee grounds ...

Those specialists who are in the know about everything have a non-disclosure subscription !!!

[tv70]

Come on, they’ve probably plunged into the World of Tanks

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: tv70

Come on, they’ve probably plunged into the World of Tanks

it will be absolutely not those specialists !!!

[faiver]

such specialists are not needed here ...

[gorenina91]

-Yes, the Americans probably took the whole "captured" T-90 tank from the Ishilovites ... and here they slipped the remains of the "previously killed" tank of the same type ... to cover the tracks ...
-What kind of "garage number" is this tank and the fact that the Ishilovites recently captured ...- there probably is a difference ... and you can determine ...

[tomket]

Quote: gorenina91

Yes, probably the Americans took the whole "trophy" T-90 tank from the Ishilovites ... and here they slipped the remains of the "previously killed" tank

I’m wondering, the Syrians of t-90 like dirt, that there is no accounting for what they have lost, and in principle it is not kept? Here's how you can not know whose tank it is, government or trophy?

[pepel79]

If there was a detonation of BC (full), the hull would burst into rubbish ... The tank was destroyed after leaving the crew ... Luke mech. the water is open and in place ... It would have simply been vomited out in an internal explosion, during a defeat followed by detonation of the ammunition, since it would have been closed (logically during a battle) ... Destruction by a VKS strike or a land mine, the same thing disappears, the building is nearby integrally (cinder block filler) ... the tank didn’t burn (the building is clean), the walls are not burnt, the sand around is clean (there is no shovel from burning, traces of leakage of easily alloyed metals), the tower is on the contrary burned, there are no hatches, the cheekbones detonated, the upper, albeit more flimsy, in place ... most likely an undermining from the inside, and controlled, so that it would be, then what to show ...

[voyaka uh]

"If there was a detonation of BK (full), the body would burst into the trash .." ////

Not. Tears off the tower, and all the power goes up.
The hull remains, and the tower remains lying about 10-20 meters away.
Like here. A typical case. There were thousands and thousands of such options throughout the Middle East and throughout wars.

[pepel79]

Colleague, you are right in part, when the tower is broken, all the power goes up, but it all depends on the number of ammunition, or rather its equivalent of explosives, and therefore it happens ...
I will not exhibit photos of the war of the 90s ... but the picture is there ...

[pepel79]

You just do not compare the damage to equipment in the war of two states (the main priority in the fight against technology like their own (BPS choice)), but against illegal armed groups (armored vehicles against people in the field or in fortifications (the choice of OFS) ... hence the equipment of the BC and its numerical composition with respect to explosives, and the consequences of damage from its detonation.

[Dimy4]

A little certain skill and instead of the T-90, you can capture Armata in photos.

[Unbearable]

It’s strange somehow. Militants from the IG and did not photograph
if it’s got a turret from the T-90 during the striking of the airborne forces of the Russian Federation. Mog and the crew themselves could blow up a tank to prevent the IS from getting there.

[Unbearable]

Although it was possible afterwards to make the militants from the IG so. Lay explosives with a remote fuse, install a tower. After starting to shoot from a long distance hit on the "restored tank" hit from the ATGM and at that moment blow up the explosives. Do not stop shooting heading towards this tank, show the consequences. Apparently the IG did not bother so much, not before that.

[Geisenberg]

Surely he blew himself up ...

[stone]

and the towers both flew and fly

[Awaz]

Guys, I don’t understand why all this fuss is. Any tank can die in war. The fact that the barmalei are hunting for the T90 indicates that they have an order for this, most likely from sponsors who understand that if there are no photos of the destroyed T 90 in the press, soon there will be big problems with the sale of Leopards and Abrams. Well, the fact that they managed to knock out not so many of these machines, suggests that the tank is quite competitive.
It is not clear only: the tank "hooked" or is it so he went into the sand?

[Radical]

Quote: PANZER

The lower shoulder strap of the tower was torn from its place, plus, apparently, the left side of the car was torn apart, the tower was on the ground, the gun was torn from recoil devices, and the commander’s turret was missing. It seems that there was a detonation of cc in the fighting compartment (BC or stupidly undermining inside the cc), the tower flew off the shoulder strap and, when it fell, rested the cannon on the ground, otherwise how can we explain the cannon’s breakdown from the PU. Something like this. There were such shots in Chechen photos.

[AllXVahhaB]

O tempora! O mores! I imagine how during WWII they would rush about with a discussion one lined up tank. And it would be an information bomb and a means of propaganda war

[Dezinto]

Where do you climb from? Is it just to discuss the fact of discussion? Well do not like you go on ...!

[den_sibirskiy]

But someone died there.