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In Syria, hit the photo destroyed T-90

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The appearance on the Internet of photos of destroyed tank The T-90A raises many questions. No matter what IS propagandists say (the group is banned in the Russian Federation), there is no exact data on under what circumstances the given combat vehicle died, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


In Syria, hit the photo destroyed T-90


According to military expert Alexei Khlopotov, “so far there is no information confirming that the tank was hit in an anti-tank weapon, so it is possible that we face a fighting vehicle captured by militants about a month ago in Kurayba during a sandstorm.”



Perhaps the tank was destroyed by a blow VKS. For example, a bomb fell on him or near him. “The explosion was of such strength that it disrupted the“ Contact-5 ”dynamic protection placed on it from the outside of the tower,” the author of the material Lev Romanov comments on the photo.

It is possible that the militants themselves laid explosives in the tank and undermined it. As a result, the car turned into a pile of scrap metal.



In any case, the T-90 tanks, in contrast to the American Abrams and the German Leopard-2, demonstrated enviable durability and reliability, the author concludes.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 17 November 2017 13: 33
    12
    At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...
    1. destination
      destination 17 November 2017 13: 38
      +5
      I’m not a tanker, but ... Something somehow ... I can’t believe that a tank was killed in a fair battle ... They blew up on the retreat so that the enemy didn’t get, that's what it looks like from my bell tower ...repeatTankers, of course, will better explain ... hi
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 17 November 2017 13: 39
        +7
        The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.
        1. esaul
          esaul 17 November 2017 13: 42
          +7
          Quote: Vard
          At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...

          Quote: destination
          I’m not a tanker, but ... Something somehow ... I can’t believe that a tank was killed in a fair battle ... They blew up on the retreat so that the enemy didn’t get, that's what it looks like from my bell tower ...repeatTankers, of course, will better explain ... hi

          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

          And you are not alone in your assumptions, colleagues. On the Internet, this info is already widely discussed and a point of view similar to yours prevails.
        2. svp67
          svp67 17 November 2017 13: 53
          +2
          Quote: Sith Lord
          The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

          Before that, there was infa that the Syrians from T-72 managed to drive a shell into the side of the previously lost T-90, it is quite possible that this is it ...
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 17 November 2017 14: 16
            +5
            Not. There are two other tanks captured in Aleppo and shot down in Idlib (over 500 km distance between them).
            1. uav80
              uav80 17 November 2017 14: 49
              +3
              25/10/2017
              Syrian units in the Mayadin area lost the T-90. Images appeared on the web of this tank, which apparently does not have any serious damage.

        3. hrych
          hrych 17 November 2017 14: 07
          +3
          Quote: Sith Lord
          The tank lost its course; Shiite militias abandoned it and called in aircraft.

          Although the top and torn, but the detonation of ammunition was not unique. Those. somehow, the ammunition was missing. There is no sign of fire, and the tower would not have flown around the corner of the dead building. Therefore, an unambiguously staged shot, to one degree or another laughing
          1. PANZER
            PANZER 17 November 2017 17: 25
            +6
            The lower shoulder strap of the tower was torn from its place, plus, apparently, the left side of the car was torn apart, the tower was on the ground, the gun was torn from recoil devices, and the commander’s turret was missing. It seems that there was a detonation of cc in the fighting compartment (BC or stupidly undermining inside the cc), the tower flew off the shoulder strap and, when it fell, rested the cannon on the ground, otherwise how can we explain the cannon’s breakdown from the PU. Something like this. There were such shots in Chechen photos.
          2. PANZER
            PANZER 17 November 2017 17: 27
            +2
            What then turned the top of the case, if there was no explosion? Did it ever occur to you that the tower could fly over this building?
            1. hrych
              hrych 17 November 2017 21: 12
              +1
              Quote: PANZER
              What then turned the top of the case, if there was no explosion? Did it ever occur to you that the tower could fly over this building?

              The building is frame, there is a concrete reinforced lattice, and the walls are laid with concrete blocks, they can be knocked out with a kick, and then the explosion threw up several tons of iron by twenty meters. Pay attention to the window opening opposite the tank, it is thin and almost not injured, there is not enough part of one block at the bottom of the opening. Corkas could have withstood and all the blocks would have endured blocks. The detonation of the ammunition, as well as the cumulative stream, cause a fire at high temperature, and the battle gear of the tower is clean, almost glistening.
              1. PANZER
                PANZER 18 November 2017 10: 22
                0
                I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yerema. Take a look at the shoulder strap of the tower, and in the opening of the window building, which is nearby, and which is under the shoulder strap. There you can see the sky, but there should be a left side of the tank. The bend of the pallet up and the lack of a side speaks about something to you? The nature of the damage to the machine indicates that there was an explosion in the open space.
        4. donavi49
          donavi49 17 November 2017 14: 19
          +2
          It is doubtful. If this is this tank, then they managed to overtake it at 70 km. Moreover, he was captured when there was a sandstorm and the aircraft worked for Idlib. That is - if the same T-90 - then it has already been tracked clearly separately.
      2. iouris
        iouris 17 November 2017 15: 05
        +2
        Any tank can be destroyed in battle, even if it is a T-90.
    2. stolz
      stolz 17 November 2017 13: 41
      +3
      It’s a pity the car, it’s nefig to send such to Syria, and the T-55 would be enough for them.
      1. hrych
        hrych 17 November 2017 14: 02
        11
        Quote: Stolz
        nefig there were such to send to Syria

        They sent it to be tested in battle, so even its death is an invaluable experience for engineers. Of course, if the weak point is a tanker, then I'm sorry laughing
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 17 November 2017 14: 15
          +8
          Quote: hrych
          if the weak point is a tanker, then excuse me

          there are many videos on youtube where crews throw cars at the first danger, however Asia request
    3. tomket
      tomket 17 November 2017 14: 34
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      Again, it feels like this tower was just put on the ground ... in short, again, a fake.

      Not ISIS, but the opera and ballet theater .....
    4. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 17 November 2017 14: 38
      +3
      Quote: Vard
      At first glance ... yes, an explosion of ammunition ... the tower was torn down ... and then the questions begin ... the wall is nearby ... as it was very neatly surrounded the tower by it ... again, it seems like they just put this tower on the ground ... in short, again, a fake ...


      The same thoughts. The wall of the building is almost untouched, and the tower is around the corner. And the sand around is even, no sign of a tower hitting the ground. It seems that the crane was removed and put next.
      How the tank died is not clear, but what we see is the production, the scenery of the movie.
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 17 November 2017 17: 50
        +1
        What's the point?
        1. Leeds
          Leeds 17 November 2017 19: 23
          0
          In short, as I understand it, CIA directors in every igilovsky platoon. And the crane organized and filming.
          But, the remnants of the former brains of observation decided - "Fake." It causes only a stretched smile of regret. And well-wishers of Russia in general laugh in a voice, as they have recently done over the Moscow Region.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 17 November 2017 13: 37
    +2
    Caterpillars and the hull seem to be intact ... The ammunition stock detonated ??? If the mine exploded then the hull usually turns into a pile of iron ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 17 November 2017 13: 40
      +4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Caterpillars and the hull seem to be intact ... The ammunition stock detonated ??? If the mine exploded then the hull usually turns into a pile of iron ...

      Likely. If they were to be judged by the Merkavs who ran into the funds.
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 17 November 2017 13: 44
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      the fins and the body seem to be intact

      Nifiga se..a whole..there is a ring on which the tower rotates, torn out .. and the hull back parted at the seams ..
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 17 November 2017 13: 47
        +2
        You can’t tell from the photo that the case is amen. I saw a photo of the abrams after the blasting on a land mine. It’s not like caterpillars, there the body is barely distinguishable! But here the damage is not so strong. Although there may be less explosive force
  3. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 17 November 2017 13: 42
    0
    self-explosion most likely!
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2017 13: 44
    +1
    Always noted that absolute weapons do not exist!
    1. Shadow of darkness
      Shadow of darkness 17 November 2017 13: 57
      +2
      There is no absolute defense, but an absolute weapon can be! What can be opposed to a nuclear explosion now? I’ll keep silent about the elements. But there really is no absolute protection, even the bunker does not give a full guarantee.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2017 15: 49
        +1
        You are not right. For a nuclear explosion to occur, you need to deliver the charge to the place, and the carriers are currently quite vulnerable. With the same logic, I can fend off - what can be opposed to a projectile exploding in the fighting compartment of a tank? You say - armor, DZ and so on. At the expense of a nuclear explosion, I fend off-missile defense, air defense, electronic warfare, etc.
        1. Shadow of darkness
          Shadow of darkness 17 November 2017 19: 03
          0
          At the expense of a nuclear explosion, I fend off-missile defense, air defense, electronic warfare, etc.

          After the first stratospheric explosion of a powerful nuclear weapon, you can forget about all of the above for at least half an hour. It's not for nothing that I divided the weapon as such and the defense.
          With the same logic, I can counteract - what can be opposed to a projectile exploding in the fighting compartment of a tank? You say - armor, DZ and so on.

          What do you counteract from the existing tank protection to an ordinary steel bar weighing 500 kg, dropped from a height of 10 kilometers? Will the walls of the bunker help you, if the nuclear charge of hundreds of kilotons nevertheless burst through all missile defense and air defense?
          The means of attack have long surpassed the means of defense, and where it is not possible to overcome the defense qualitatively, they overcome quantitatively! hi
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 November 2017 13: 51
    +2
    In a couple of months, our specialists will restore it, it will be better than the new! If the tank has at least a couple of cats left it can be restored. True, this will be essentially a remake already.
  6. faiver
    faiver 17 November 2017 14: 09
    +1
    Well, where are the tank specialists? and then fortunetelling on coffee grounds ...
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 17 November 2017 18: 09
      +4
      Quote: faiver
      Well, where are the tank specialists? and then fortunetelling on coffee grounds ...

      Those specialists who are in the know about everything have a non-disclosure subscription !!! laughing laughing laughing
      1. tv70
        tv70 18 November 2017 02: 10
        +1
        Come on, they’ve probably plunged into the World of Tanks
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 18 November 2017 02: 48
          +2
          Quote: tv70
          Come on, they’ve probably plunged into the World of Tanks

          what what it will be absolutely not those specialists !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
        2. faiver
          faiver 18 November 2017 06: 50
          0
          such specialists are not needed here ... laughing
  7. gorenina91
    gorenina91 17 November 2017 14: 13
    +2
    -Yes, the Americans probably took the whole "captured" T-90 tank from the Ishilovites ... and here they slipped the remains of the "previously killed" tank of the same type ... to cover the tracks ...
    -What kind of "garage number" is this tank and the fact that the Ishilovites recently captured ...- there probably is a difference ... and you can determine ...
    1. tomket
      tomket 17 November 2017 14: 36
      +1
      Quote: gorenina91
      Yes, probably the Americans took the whole "trophy" T-90 tank from the Ishilovites ... and here they slipped the remains of the "previously killed" tank

      I’m wondering, the Syrians of t-90 like dirt, that there is no accounting for what they have lost, and in principle it is not kept? Here's how you can not know whose tank it is, government or trophy?
  8. pepel79
    pepel79 17 November 2017 14: 40
    +5
    If there was a detonation of BC (full), the hull would burst into rubbish ... The tank was destroyed after leaving the crew ... Luke mech. the water is open and in place ... It would have simply been vomited out in an internal explosion, during a defeat followed by detonation of the ammunition, since it would have been closed (logically during a battle) ... Destruction by a VKS strike or a land mine, the same thing disappears, the building is nearby integrally (cinder block filler) ... the tank didn’t burn (the building is clean), the walls are not burnt, the sand around is clean (there is no shovel from burning, traces of leakage of easily alloyed metals), the tower is on the contrary burned, there are no hatches, the cheekbones detonated, the upper, albeit more flimsy, in place ... most likely an undermining from the inside, and controlled, so that it would be, then what to show ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 November 2017 20: 53
      +2
      "If there was a detonation of BK (full), the body would burst into the trash .." ////

      Not. Tears off the tower, and all the power goes up.
      The hull remains, and the tower remains lying about 10-20 meters away.
      Like here. A typical case. There were thousands and thousands of such options throughout the Middle East and throughout wars.
      1. pepel79
        pepel79 17 November 2017 21: 50
        0
        Colleague, you are right in part, when the tower is broken, all the power goes up, but it all depends on the number of ammunition, or rather its equivalent of explosives, and therefore it happens ...
        I will not exhibit photos of the war of the 90s ... but the picture is there ...
        1. pepel79
          pepel79 17 November 2017 22: 33
          0
          You just do not compare the damage to equipment in the war of two states (the main priority in the fight against technology like their own (BPS choice)), but against illegal armed groups (armored vehicles against people in the field or in fortifications (the choice of OFS) ... hence the equipment of the BC and its numerical composition with respect to explosives, and the consequences of damage from its detonation.
  9. Dimy4
    Dimy4 17 November 2017 14: 53
    +1
    A little certain skill and instead of the T-90, you can capture Armata in photos.
  10. Unbearable
    Unbearable 17 November 2017 15: 29
    +2
    It’s strange somehow. Militants from the IG and did not photograph
    if it’s got a turret from the T-90 during the striking of the airborne forces of the Russian Federation. Mog and the crew themselves could blow up a tank to prevent the IS from getting there.
  11. Unbearable
    Unbearable 17 November 2017 15: 30
    +1
    Although it was possible afterwards to make the militants from the IG so. Lay explosives with a remote fuse, install a tower. After starting to shoot from a long distance hit on the "restored tank" hit from the ATGM and at that moment blow up the explosives. Do not stop shooting heading towards this tank, show the consequences. Apparently the IG did not bother so much, not before that.
  12. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 17 November 2017 15: 37
    +1
    Surely he blew himself up ...
  13. stone
    stone 17 November 2017 16: 03
    +1
    and the towers both flew and fly
  14. Awaz
    Awaz 17 November 2017 19: 29
    +2
    Guys, I don’t understand why all this fuss is. Any tank can die in war. The fact that the barmalei are hunting for the T90 indicates that they have an order for this, most likely from sponsors who understand that if there are no photos of the destroyed T 90 in the press, soon there will be big problems with the sale of Leopards and Abrams. Well, the fact that they managed to knock out not so many of these machines, suggests that the tank is quite competitive.
    It is not clear only: the tank "hooked" or is it so he went into the sand?
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 17 November 2017 21: 45
    0
    Quote: PANZER
    The lower shoulder strap of the tower was torn from its place, plus, apparently, the left side of the car was torn apart, the tower was on the ground, the gun was torn from recoil devices, and the commander’s turret was missing. It seems that there was a detonation of cc in the fighting compartment (BC or stupidly undermining inside the cc), the tower flew off the shoulder strap and, when it fell, rested the cannon on the ground, otherwise how can we explain the cannon’s breakdown from the PU. Something like this. There were such shots in Chechen photos.

    yes
  16. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 18 November 2017 02: 36
    +1
    O tempora! O mores! I imagine how during WWII they would rush about with a discussion one lined up tank. And it would be an information bomb and a means of propaganda war what
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 18 November 2017 17: 14
      0
      Where do you climb from? Is it just to discuss the fact of discussion? Well do not like you go on ...!
  17. den_sibirskiy
    den_sibirskiy 18 November 2017 18: 00
    0
    But someone died there.