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State Department: Russia is weak because of the lack of a unified ideology

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Following statements by the White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, that Trump is against disputes with Putin and for building relations with Russia, the State Department intervened. According to Brian Hook, director of political planning for the US foreign affairs agency, Russia is "the main threat from the Baltic to the Black Sea." At the same time, the Russian-Belarusian military exercise Zapad-2017 was once again given as an example in the State Department. The logic is “wonderful”: if three American aircraft carrier groups maneuver off the coast of Korea, this is a normal attempt to protect world democracy, and if exercises are conducted on their territory by the troops of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, this is a terrible threat to the world ...


RIA News cites Mr. Hook’s statement:
Russia has no ideological unity that would direct its actions. But Russia, nevertheless, is a serious opponent. There is a similarity with the threat that we met during the Cold War. As in the past, the threat comes from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Russia has shown the ability to conduct and prepare large-scale exercises, such as the recent "West-2017". The conventional threat is real. Russia is upgrading the army and nuclear arsenal, as well as delivery vehicles. She developed a cruise missile capable of carrying a nuclear weapon, clearly violating the INF Treaty.


State Department: Russia is weak because of the lack of a unified ideology


The first phrase is particularly noteworthy. The “Comrade” from the State Department actually confirms the thesis that the lack of a unified ideology weakens Russia. Does this mean that Russia is proposing to acquire a state ideology? If so, then now the State Department can be fully referenced in the event that the authorities of the Russian Federation mature to introduce certain amendments to the Basic Law - to the clause on legislative recognition of the absence of any single ideology. Is a hook a Russian agent? ..
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  1. Logall
    Logall 17 November 2017 06: 54 New
    19
    There is a single ideology in Russia: it is not to bend under the pressure of the warming imperialist West! And also to prevent a new war from breaking out, because we remember how scary it is! Remember, and we will never forget all the suffering and consequences of the Great Patriotic War ...!
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 17 November 2017 06: 56 New
      23
      Alexander! !! hi This is not an ideology, but a mechanism of self-defense against an alien to us Western anti-Russian policy! !! negative
      1. Logall
        Logall 17 November 2017 06: 59 New
        18
        At the state level, this is a mechanism! At the level of people's consciousness - this is ideology!
        And the other is still no ...
        1. Orel
          Orel 17 November 2017 07: 07 New
          +9
          Quote: Logall
          Article title: "State Department: Russia is weakened due to the lack of a unified ideology"


          State Department statement: "Russia does not have an ideological unity that would direct its actions."


          The title of the article is completely inconsistent with what the State Department said. It’s a completely different matter, that the policy of the country's leadership does not cause a single support in the power circles, business and among ordinary people. Hence, the course towards confrontation and opposition to the West has serious domestic problems. Actually this is a fact, and the State Department said this, and not about the "lack of a single ideology." Actually in Western countries there are also different opinions on the issue of relations with our country. This is normal.
          1. Logall
            Logall 17 November 2017 07: 13 New
            10
            Why did you attribute the title to me?
            1. dik-nsk
              dik-nsk 17 November 2017 07: 35 New
              +5
              Russia has no ideological unity
              I can’t disagree, he’s right, but we strive for unity and when all sectors, from oligarchs, officials to ordinary citizens, will work for the good of the country, the good of society, and not the stomach — than the Russians (I'm not talking about nationality, and the Spirit) always differed from Westerners, we will not be afraid of sanctions or the State Department .. we need to respect and love our country ourselves, live for its good, then the rest will respect you and ask for partners .. Respect the strong
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 17 November 2017 07: 56 New
                11
                Russia has no ideological unity

                And this is enshrined in the Constitution! With what I congratulate everyone love
                Why the hell do you need a Duma if it is not capable of essentially solving the main question - to create a Constitution that would satisfy the needs of the Russian people and bear legal protection from foreign lawlessness and the constant interference of the Anglo-Saxons in the affairs of Russia?
              2. FID
                FID 17 November 2017 10: 02 New
                +6
                Quote: dik-nsk
                he is right, but we strive for unity and when all sectors, from oligarchs, officials to ordinary citizens, will work for the good of the country

                I apologize if it is possible in more detail about the aspirations of the oligarchs and officials .... A simple man, apparently it's you ...
                1. dik-nsk
                  dik-nsk 17 November 2017 10: 05 New
                  0
                  is it possible in more detail about the aspirations of oligarchs and officials
                  What exactly? ask a specific question, in my opinion everything is written ..
                  A simple person, apparently it's you
                  yes, a simple official))
                  1. FID
                    FID 17 November 2017 10: 17 New
                    +3
                    Quote: dik-nsk
                    What exactly? ask a specific question, in my opinion everything is written ..

                    This is me about aspiration ... Who is striving, with what speed is striving, and where is striving? Is this specific enough? Further, I’ll make it even more specific: who, personally from the oligarchs, strives for “unity” with me, a simple Soviet engineer, and where do you aspire - a simple official, in your own words?
                    1. dik-nsk
                      dik-nsk 17 November 2017 10: 23 New
                      +1
                      no need to take the phrase out of context
                      and when all layers, from oligarchs, officials to ordinary citizens, will work for the good of the country
                      it says AND WHEN, do you feel the difference?
                      and the phrase “we strive” refers to that despite everything, having left the peak of the 90s, the country is coming to unity, the pro-Western opps are a marginal minority at the level of error - is it not the desire for unity? and then indicated "and when" .. so accessible? hi
                      ps Yes, I, as a simple official, strive to do my job within the framework of authority based on the law and human relations
                      1. FID
                        FID 17 November 2017 10: 35 New
                        +2
                        Quote: dik-nsk
                        "and when" .. so accessible?

                        Balabolism is a profession ... I repeat - WHO, personally, from the OLIGARCHS (it was said about them) ... Obviously, bureaucracy is marginalized ... since they strive for unity with whom ????
              3. free
                free 17 November 2017 10: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: dik-nsk
                Russia has no ideological unity
                I can’t disagree, he’s right, but we strive for unity and when all sectors, from oligarchs, officials to ordinary citizens, will work for the good of the country, the good of society, and not the stomach — than the Russians (I'm not talking about nationality, and the Spirit) always differed from Westerners, we will not be afraid of sanctions or the State Department .. we need to respect and love our country ourselves, live for its good, then the rest will respect you and ask for partners .. Respect the strong

                Just do not live up to those bright days, either to us or to bureaucrats.
            2. Orel
              Orel 17 November 2017 08: 46 New
              +1
              Quote: Logall
              Why did you attribute the title to me?


              Guilty) I'm sorry, I didn’t notice.
          2. Nix1986
            Nix1986 17 November 2017 07: 18 New
            14
            I agree that the whole ideology is based only on the development and glorification of the army and some kind of pseudo-patriotism, which applies only to ordinary people. Almost all the children of government representatives study, live and are treated abroad, even by the banal offenses of traffic laws, we see that the legal system in the case of such people is powerless (is it not from our country that the director Elysium wrote the script ?! :)) the list goes on and on.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 17 November 2017 07: 31 New
              12
              Quote: Nix1986
              ... even corny on traffic violations, we see that the legal system in the case of such people is powerless ...

              And what, once it was different? The USSR did not offer - there were no alligarchs, but there was a party nomenclature. With opportunities as if not greater than current alligators.
              And at least the “upper” ones were certainly not subject to jurisdiction ... Churbanova and other “cotton matters” should not be offered, again - these are the guys taking their own scores yes
              1. Nix1986
                Nix1986 17 November 2017 08: 43 New
                0
                The fact that this has never happened does not mean to come to terms with it and call it our traditional fact. At least for myself, that's for sure I do not want to consider it the norm.
            2. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 17 November 2017 08: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Nix1986
              I agree that the whole ideology is based only on the development and glorification of the army and some kind of pseudo-patriotism, which applies only to ordinary people.
              I would say that the ideology of the consumer society, well, the cult of the irreplaceable leader, around which it is necessary to rally, is persistently planted in all media ... well, with all kinds of information troops, in the form of paid trolls soldier
              1. Nix1986
                Nix1986 17 November 2017 09: 48 New
                +3
                I would say that it’s not just “consumption”, but beggarly consumption, i.e. it is being instilled that the usual desire to use the benefits of civilization is evil, a smartphone, a foreign car, rest abroad, quality medicine - this is evil and the 5th column, bought on credit from West, rest in Crimea and a beer with dumplings, he is a real patriot. Our self-esteem has fallen so much that even the proposed "death tax" and statements about helplessness in the payment of pensions are calmly swallowed and we discuss whether such a state has an ideology. What kind of ideology can one speak of when the state itself, with its statements about the new tax and pensions, says that it is not interested in the ordinary needs of the population ?!
            3. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 08: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: Nix1986
              I agree that the whole ideology is based only on the development and glorification of the army and some kind of pseudo-patriotism, which applies only to ordinary people. Almost all the children of government representatives study, live and are treated abroad, even by the banal offenses of traffic laws, we see that the legal system in the case of such people is powerless (is it not from our country that the director Elysium wrote the script ?! :)) the list goes on and on.

              Unfortunately, the authorities believe that patriotism is for suckers and serves as a tool for managing the electorate, by including the necessary rhetoric.
          3. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 17 November 2017 07: 22 New
            0
            Well, you, too, conceived it in your own way. Judging strictly by the article and the headline, there is no explicit message that you wrote either.
            Quote: Orel
            Quote: Logall
            Article title: "State Department: Russia is weakened due to the lack of a unified ideology"


            State Department statement: "Russia does not have an ideological unity that would direct its actions."


            The title of the article is completely inconsistent with what the State Department said. It’s a completely different matter, that the policy of the country's leadership does not cause a single support in the power circles, business and among ordinary people. Hence, the course towards confrontation and opposition to the West has serious domestic problems. Actually this is a fact, and the State Department said this, and not about the "lack of a single ideology." Actually in Western countries there are also different opinions on the issue of relations with our country. This is normal.
        2. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: Logall
          There is a single ideology in Russia: it is not to bend under the pressure of the warming imperialist West!

          Quote: Logall
          At the level of people's consciousness - this is ideology!
          And the other is still no ...


          Alas, all this is a struggle of unities and opposites ...

          In the United States, of course, they are satisfied that the wormhole in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, incorporated into them in the 90s, in the form of a lack of consolidation of the state ideology in the Basic Law, is corroding Russia from the inside.
          So, this statement is just a statement of fact.

          And that's what leadership of the Russian Federation going to undertake to correct this dangerous incident, it would be interesting to know ...
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 17 November 2017 07: 31 New
            +5
            And the leadership of Russia is united by some kind of succession, between the past, present and future? I have so far been very insolent. Based on this, I believe that actions will be symptomatic and possibly absurd.
            1. Separ DNR
              Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 35 New
              +5
              Quote: Hagalaz
              And the leadership of Russia is united by some kind of succession, between the past, present and future? I have so far been very insolent. Based on this, I believe that actions will be symptomatic and possibly absurd.


              That's about this absurdity, resulting in the weakening of the state, and the Americans lapochki ...
            2. Nix1986
              Nix1986 17 November 2017 08: 46 New
              +4
              Do not doubt it is combined, continuity is expressed in providing guarantees for the transfer of property and rights (in other words, to inherit an account in a Swiss bank and an oil tower and guarantees of their legal integrity) from fathers to children in the backdoor oligarchic clan "GDP and close associates".
              1. Hagalaz
                Hagalaz 17 November 2017 10: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Nix1986
                Do not doubt it is combined, continuity is expressed in providing guarantees for the transfer of property and rights (in other words, to inherit an account in a Swiss bank and an oil tower and guarantees of their legal integrity) from fathers to children in the backdoor oligarchic clan "GDP and close associates".

                If it were, then this would not be the worst option at all. I’m not sure that the elite understands that all those nishtyaks that you have listed, they can get it only here, and not somewhere over the hill, where they are ready to dump in case of something and if (God forbid) the western masters of life prevail here, then they’ll take everything away from the locals.
                1. Nix1986
                  Nix1986 17 November 2017 10: 14 New
                  0
                  She realizes that if she dumps capital there (any Western country), then she will be welcomed there. History has shown this more than once, and which country will refuse to receive extra lards there.
                  1. Hagalaz
                    Hagalaz 17 November 2017 10: 51 New
                    0
                    Yes, but will only the lords who have fallen over the hill remain masters of their lards? If Russia falls, I think that in one way or another they will be deprived of their own there.
            3. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 17 November 2017 09: 19 New
              +3
              And the leadership of Russia is united by some kind of succession, between the past, present and future?

              Dear, what are you talking about? There is a huge gap between the leadership of the country and the country ....
              The Russian national idea, Russian patriotism and love for the motherland, this is at the genetic level ... It is a pity that this gene code was someone “cracked” by our country's leadership ....
              From the work of the ex-minister econom. Ulyukaev's development:
              Drive my son, drive away

              You will find on the ball now

              A lot of places where a step forward

              Five hundred optional

              Steps back where they say

              Not everything is always the other way around

              Where not always a convoy platoon

              On the small guys kicked out

              Where not always a gag

              It happens - they say the truth

              There is a head up

              And below - legs

              Where no bread was sprinkled on bread

              And they did not laugh at the wretched:

              Ha ha, hehe, hee hee, huh

              Oh Gods!

              Published in the Banner magazine in 2011]


              This statesman (at that time), "loving his homeland," gives advice to his child .... How many of them are there?
              We have no State, no ...... There is a homeland, but no State ....
              1. Hagalaz
                Hagalaz 17 November 2017 10: 08 New
                +1
                Solomon: Duc about that and interpret!
        3. Esoteric
          Esoteric 17 November 2017 07: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Logall
          At the state level, this is a mechanism! At the level of people's consciousness - this is ideology!
          And the other is still no ...

          It has always been and remains relevant today:
          "Until the roasted cock pecks" и "Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself"
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 39 New
            +8
            Quote: Esoteric
            It(Do you need to understand ideology? /remark Separ DNR/)has always been and remains relevant today:
            “Until the roasted cock pecks” and “Until the thunder strikes, man will not cross”

            This is not an ideology - REFLEXES on stimuli.
            Of course it’s good that the body is still capable of at least somehow responding to stimuli (internal and external), but you can’t go far with reflexes alone.
        4. 210ox
          210ox 17 November 2017 07: 31 New
          10
          Alexander hi Yes, we, the people have an ideology. It’s only a pity that the state doesn’t. Here the State Department is right. Unfortunately
          Quote: Logall
          At the state level, this is a mechanism! At the level of people's consciousness - this is ideology!
          And the other is still no ...
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: 210ox
            Yes, we, the people have an ideology. It’s only a pity that the state doesn’t. Here the State Department is right. Unfortunately

            A plus ! One sentence, and the whole layout! Taking off my hat hi
            And here I fight, I prove, I wrote a line to what, and God knows how much recourse .
      2. Vanek
        Vanek 17 November 2017 09: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        from alien to us


        This is perhaps the most important thing ...

        hi
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 17 November 2017 07: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Logall
      There is a single ideology in Russia: it is not to bend under the pressure of the warming imperialist West!

      Therefore, in addition to barking because of the fence, they do nothing. They are waiting for us to devour each other in local showdowns due to a parking place, passage on the sidewalk, order on the landing, dogs walking without a leash and a muzzle ...
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 17 November 2017 07: 33 New
      +5
      According to our (American) Constitution, state ideology is prohibited in Russia. And the Americans know what they say. And when there is no ideology, anti-people’s laws, such as the Bologna system of education, juvenile justice, etc., are being squeezed, how to make the Motherland (i.e. power) love. Therefore, public administration is mainly carried out in "manual mode". State ideology is a system of goal-setting and designation of the basic, most significant values ​​that determine the movement and development of the state. And we don’t even know where we are going and what future we are building for our children, but the ruble exchange rate for tomorrow. In fact, they are doomed to live one day (in darkness) without any confidence in the future.
    4. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 08: 56 New
      0
      Where is the idea here? For me, this is the action of Pavlov’s dog on external stimuli.
    5. stolz
      stolz 17 November 2017 09: 29 New
      +1
      Russia has no ideological unity that would direct its actions. But Russia, nevertheless, is a serious opponent.

      That’s because arrogant people, you see, are worried about our ideological unity, but the main thing is that they understand very well about a serious adversary, and everything else is just idle talk.
    6. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 November 2017 09: 51 New
      +4
      The question is not about whether Russia has any ideology ...
      The essence of the problem - the State Department itself composes horror stories about Russia, and then recommends that the White House and Congress give an adequate response to the threats they themselves invented ....
      In the news for 2 hours, 3 news about the US .... It seems that Russia was seriously involved there.
    7. iouris
      iouris 17 November 2017 20: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Logall
      There is a single ideology in Russia

      Communist (anti-imperialist) ideology does not dominate in the Russian Federation. This was stated by the keynote speaker. In a class society, the ideology of the ruling class dominates. And this class is connected with the USA, therefore Russia is weakened.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 November 2017 06: 54 New
    13
    It’s a rare case when I agree with the Yankees that we don’t have a national idea that is not clearly formulated and implemented by an ideology. We live as God puts on a soul! !! sad
    1. faiver
      faiver 17 November 2017 06: 57 New
      +6
      essentially yes, life today ...
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 November 2017 07: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Herkulesich
      It’s a rare case when I agree with the Yankees that we don’t have a national idea that is not clearly formulated and implemented by an ideology. We live as God puts on a soul! !!

      Why is this not? If in a word, then "Let's go!" . Briefly and succinctly Gagarin said.
      What now, to legislate and bring to the attention of the State Department? Yes they went. I’m still dancing at the grave of world imperialism.
  3. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 17 November 2017 06: 56 New
    +2
    We need to worry about Russia, they want us to strengthen ourselves. What can you not hear from a bunch of well-wishers.
  4. Fedorov
    Fedorov 17 November 2017 06: 56 New
    +3
    An ideology, or one of its forms, in my opinion, is - Tapping the Western senility together with their armies around their necks, if necessary. am
    And if Russia is now "weakened", imagine what will happen when it is STRONG.
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Fedorov
      An ideology, or one of its forms, in my opinion, is - Tapping the Western senility together with their armies around their necks, if necessary.

      Well, such a “form” is only suitable for communication in kitchens, smoking rooms and forums. It's about something else ...
      About state ideology.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 17 November 2017 07: 54 New
        +1
        Ideology: ensuring healthy public morality as the basis for a steady increase in the well-being of citizens and the development of national culture.
        The mission of the state is to increase the welfare of citizens through the development of society (the creation of a social state and civil society). Few?!
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 17 November 2017 07: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Victor N
          Few?!

          Yes, for the consolidation of society in the light of the challenges and impending threats - REALLY SMALL.

          And if still ... (God forbid!), Then in general ...
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 17 November 2017 16: 35 New
            0
            But you yourself try to formulate, at least at the concept level. Yes, correlate with ideology in the USSR. What other idea can people unite and carry away?
        2. faiver
          faiver 17 November 2017 08: 10 New
          +1
          But just that embodiment of this ideology is not visible ...
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 17 November 2017 08: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Separ DNR
        It's about something else ...
        About state ideology ...


        Enlighten, please, and in the USA what "state ideology"?
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 17 November 2017 08: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: B.T.W.
          Enlighten, please, and in the USA what "state ideology"?

          Here is the material for self-study (link below).
          And this "state ideology" of the United States is enshrined both in the US Constitution and in the "Bill of Rights" (constitutional amendments).
          http://rusrand.ru/analytics/natsionalnaja-ideja-s
          sha
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 17 November 2017 08: 55 New
            +1
            Thank you for the link, but this site does not inspire confidence in me, because S.S.Sulakshin was an adviser to E.B. Na at one time, and now he has "suddenly begun to see."

            I am interested in another definition of state. ideology of the SGA: "... modern American state ideology is a hellish symbiosis of conspiracy theories and militant nationalism with megalomania ...". In any case, it is closer to the truth.
            1. Separ DNR
              Separ DNR 17 November 2017 09: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: B.T.W.
              Thank you for the link, but this site does not inspire confidence in me, because S.S.Sulakshin was an adviser to E.B. Na at one time, and now he has "suddenly begun to see."

              You're welcome.
              And at the expense of "I believe I do not believe", so this is purely individual. Moreover, in the article Sulashkin “does not wash his brains”, but gives certain materials on a certain topic. Just...
              1. B.T.V.
                B.T.V. 17 November 2017 09: 52 New
                0
                Just like, "brain washes!" He only does it cunningly and subtly, he does not immediately catch his eye.
                1. Separ DNR
                  Separ DNR 17 November 2017 09: 56 New
                  +3
                  Quote: B.T.W.
                  Just like, "brain washes!"

                  I do not agree, in the article to which I gave a link, this is not. Well, okay, everyone has their own perception ...
                  1. B.T.V.
                    B.T.V. 17 November 2017 09: 59 New
                    0
                    I’m not talking about this article specifically, but about the whole thrust of the work of the Sulakshin Center.
                    1. Separ DNR
                      Separ DNR 17 November 2017 10: 04 New
                      +3
                      Quote: B.T.W.
                      I’m not talking about this article specifically, but about the whole thrust of the work of the Sulakshin Center.

                      Well, we will not discuss the activities of Sulashkin here? ...
                      You asked me to justify the existence of state ideology in the United States, I gave a link to an article (and it does not matter who the author is), where this phenomenon is more or less clearly and briefly described.
                      We will stop on this.
  5. anjey
    anjey 17 November 2017 06: 58 New
    +1
    Russia does not have an ideological unity that would direct its actions.
    the ideology is simple - to love your homeland and not sell for any foreign haircuts ....
    1. faiver
      faiver 17 November 2017 08: 11 New
      +2
      and does the country's leadership know about this? laughing
  6. K-50
    K-50 17 November 2017 07: 10 New
    +3
    State Department: Russia is weak because of the lack of a unified ideology

    As they want Russia to be "weakened and torn to shreds", they cannot sleep peacefully. request laughing
    Russia - “the main threat from the Baltic to the Black Sea”

    Forgot about the Pacific and Arctic Oceans. yes
    We are also threatening everyone there. yes laughing
    Downs !! D.B. S. Lavrov.
    As our management can communicate with them, I would have broken all the mop handles about their ridges for a long time. angry
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 November 2017 07: 16 New
    0
    The logic is “wonderful”:

    ... here we have to beat this logic with their own weapons ... beat at one point - even the water wears away the stone ... let them all throw out there from the windows shouting "Russians are coming!" .. bully
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 17 November 2017 07: 20 New
    +6
    Everything is correct. But we seem to have no state ideology at all. With the exception of robbing the loot or something that has not yet managed to grab.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 November 2017 07: 20 New
    +5
    Russia does not have an ideological unity that would direct its actions.

    Who is talking about ideology? Ba, a representative of a country that does not recognize ideology and which has always accused the USSR of ideologization forever. Thanks for the advice, take into account.
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 17 November 2017 07: 31 New
    +6
    If the ideology is that the flag, sorry, put on the ass ... then really no ...
  11. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2017 07: 37 New
    +1
    Well, to protect the state there is only one ideology - to protect our territory and our people. There is no need for any additional theses "on the dominion of the Russian empire over the Bosphorus" or "on the dictatorship of the proletariat around the world". Who wants to betray, he will betray with any ideology.
  12. 1536
    1536 17 November 2017 07: 49 New
    +2
    In the 1812 and 1941-1945 years in the West, for some reason, they also spoke of fragmentation in Russian society. In the first case there was a conflict of serfs with landowners, in the second in the country the Bolshevik party ruled, but not everyone accepted its ideology. What ended the first and second throws to the East is known. It is a pity that we did not take into account the lessons and mistakes after the first “throw”, and after eliminating the “second” we stepped on the same rake.
  13. Knowing
    Knowing 17 November 2017 07: 52 New
    0
    However, it’s not very “behind the puddle” there, because it is she, - Sanders stated that: "The president will not beat around the bush on the issue that he needs to work with this world leader and he wants to work with him on the serious challenges that our country is facing right now."... sorry she didn’t say about Trump’s fear of Putin ...
  14. Neputin
    Neputin 17 November 2017 08: 01 New
    +3
    Ideology is a set of tools for scientific substantiation and implementation of the main national idea in the given period of development of the society to the masses of people. it is the national idea that determines the state development vector. The national idea of ​​building a society based on the principles of social justice, and the ideology of this society we have successfully destroyed. They did not come up with anything sensible. From the word at all. Love for the Motherland and patriotism is not an ideology, it is a state of mind, and they (the authorities) are trying to put it at the forefront. On this occasion, at the time, Saltykov-Shchedrin walked. "Something began to push for patriotism. Probably steal ..."
    1. 34 region
      34 region 17 November 2017 10: 05 New
      0
      Neputin Today, 08:01. Why is ideology a scientific justification? Here in the DPRK there is an ideology of reliance on our own strengths — no one but us! And where is their science? Our ideology-West will help us! The USA has an ideology about the superiority of the USA. Where is the scientific rationale? And Europe conquered the world on a scientific basis? The issue of social justice is very slippery. What does social justice mean? This is when there are rich, and the poor should not protest at all? Did Catherine socially rightly suppress the Pugachev rebellion? In October 1917, unjustly power passed to the lower class? Love for the motherland is also an interesting question. Here Lenin and Stalin did not integrate into the global economy. Well, they didn’t want to. But Gorbachev handed everything over to the boiler of the global economy. Our elite continues the work of Gorbachev. That's where the homeland and love of Gorbachev and the elite? Lenin and Stalin did not like Russia? *** Saltykov-Shchedrin walked. "Something began to push for patriotism. Probably steal ..." *** Interesting phrase! How to interpret it? They robbed us! Slaves must rally around the exploiters and punish thieves! All the slaves of the patriots of their oppressor! Die slaves for your master! It looks like this. hi
      1. Neputin
        Neputin 17 November 2017 18: 52 New
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        Some kind of demagogy. If you have chaos in your head — read Marx and Lenin — enlightenment will come and you will understand what ideology and the concept of social justice are.
  15. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 17 November 2017 08: 16 New
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    let them rejoice that the Russian peasant does not have ideology to bend the whole world ... but he can !!!! that more than once proved
  16. Moskovit
    Moskovit 17 November 2017 08: 20 New
    +3
    We are very interested in foreign policy, state departments and other riffraff. It seems to me that one of the main pillars of ideology should be the family. The Anglo-Saxons themselves destroyed the institution of the family, now they bring it to us.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 November 2017 08: 27 New
      +2
      Yes, come up with a bicycle?
      Ideology should be one:
      Improving the welfare of citizens and the creation of strong social guarantees while constantly increasing the country's defense capability.
  17. Ural resident
    Ural resident 17 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +3
    Did you miss the Soviet Union in the State Department?
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 17 November 2017 09: 18 New
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      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      Did you miss the Soviet Union in the State Department?

      Looks like they lost a goal in life. It happens...
  18. rudolff
    rudolff 17 November 2017 08: 54 New
    +3
    We really have a problem with ideology. After the destruction of the communist, a vacuum formed. Post-perestroika slogans about democracy, the rule of law and social justice have remained the slogans. The sluggish attempt to revive an ideology based on Orthodoxy quietly came to naught. The church (its elite) has compromised itself even worse than the Central Committee of the CPSU. The idea of ​​the "Russian world" got a bullet in the temple immediately after the Minsk agreements in the Donbass. What do we have now? Putin. Putin became the Russian ideology. Idol. To hell with all ideas, to hell with all doubts, there is a good king and he knows everything, he knows how, he is always right and even when he is wrong. He leads the country into a bright future, fights against internal enemies, confronts all the machinations of the West, he is our mind, honor and conscience. What will happen after him, but HZ!
    1. 34 region
      34 region 17 November 2017 10: 24 New
      +2
      rudolff Today, 08:54. Constitutional state!? What's this? This is when the top can crush the bottom ?! Well, they have such a right. This is not a rule of law? Now, if the top was shot down on the bottom of the car, they’re nothing for it. Is it a state of law? Is it social justice? Orthodoxy? Yes, this is a time bomb! For a multiconfessional country, leaving Shoigu with Orthodox crossings is a spit in the face of other faiths! Other faiths can easily blame the president for imposing an alien religion! Few religious confrontations in the world ?! Does the king know and know everything? And then the USA purged Ukraine? Or is it Russia overplayed by the USA? Where is the confrontation? And when the sponsors of the broads brought out, and not one shell, and not one rocket of Russia did not cover this exit? Right Kedmi. Where is the fulfillment of the promise to soak in the toilet? Who is fighting internal enemies? And who are the enemies? Those who drag everything from the country or those who are poor? Yes, ah! Of course I would like specifics. What does it mean to lead a country into a brighter future? Which country. Russia or the USA, or England, or ...? What is the future like? Paradise? This is when naked and barefoot eat apples ?! Lead to this paradise? recourse
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 17 November 2017 12: 08 New
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        You have correctly written everything, but ... Belief in the "king-father", like faith in God, is good, which does not require confirmation, evidence or a rational explanation. Moreover, it is contraindicated. Any doubt is apostasy and blasphemy. He who is not with us is against us. Red and white. In the first, or what? And the future ... Yes, it’s not customary for us to think about the future somehow. So, just dream. Today is good, and okay.
      2. Neputin
        Neputin 17 November 2017 18: 56 New
        +1
        This is already better. 34 REGION, ask good questions, right ones. You plus, there is reason for discussion.
  19. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 08: 55 New
    +2
    What am I writing and writing? No idea, no ideology, no leader. Feeling our weakness, the West is cynically crushing on all fronts. And our power is poisoned by the chimeras of neoliberalism.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 November 2017 09: 03 New
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      Quote: andrej-shironov
      What am I writing and writing? No idea, no ideology, no leader. Feeling our weakness, the West is cynically crushing on all fronts. And our power is poisoned by the chimeras of neoliberalism.

      Swollen public sector, state corporations + Miltonfriedmanism (monetarism) otherwise. This is far from neoliberalism.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 09: 15 New
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        Bloated public sector? Hardly. Corporation yes! In my amateurish opinion, nevertheless, power is advocated by neoliberalism. This is expressed in the reduction of any state participation + preferences for oligarchs + state withdrawal from its basic functions = current state of Russia.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 November 2017 09: 22 New
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          Quote: andrej-shironov
          Bloated public sector? Hardly. Corporation yes! In my amateurish opinion, nevertheless, power is advocated by neoliberalism. This is expressed in the reduction of any state participation + preferences for oligarchs + state withdrawal from its basic functions = current state of Russia.

          In the Modern Russian Federation, officials of different stripes are twice as many as in the USSR (with a difference of 2 times in the population of the latter). Neoliberalism does not imply oligarchy and state corporations. For the rest, yes - Milton Friedman's theory of Chicago boys.
      2. 34 region
        34 region 17 November 2017 10: 29 New
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        Krasnodar Today, 09:03. But is there no public sector in the US or Israel? What does bloated mean? How much is this? 1%, 50%, 100%? Where is the effectiveness of private business? Why bankruptcy alone? If state administration is inefficient, then the army must be made private?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 November 2017 12: 04 New
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          Quote: 34 region
          Krasnodar Today, 09:03. But is there no public sector in the US or Israel? What does bloated mean? How much is this? 1%, 50%, 100%? Where is the effectiveness of private business? Why bankruptcy alone? If state administration is inefficient, then the army must be made private?

          The government administration apparatus of the RSFSR in 1988 totaled 1,16 million people, or 81 officials per 10 thousand people (20% less than now).
          Now it is 102 officials per 10 thousand.
          In the United States, 45% of the economy is small and medium-sized businesses, therefore the public sector is minuscule.
          In Israel, they are still getting rid of the remnants of socialism and the public sector is being reduced as they can.
          The effectiveness of private business in the Russian Federation - after you start earning about 10 lyam a month, (2 million tanks a year), you start the struggle for survival - they try to overcome it.
          Plus, the purchasing power of the population fell - with oil prices and the ruble.
          A private army is good for the United States and China, which means it will be good for Russia too.
          My personal opinion is that everyone should serve in the army - both smart and dumb, and strong and weak, and children of the offspring of oligarchs and children from low-income families. But this scheme - the melting pot - is Israeli.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 17 November 2017 22: 25 New
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            Krasnodar Today, 12:04. I am skeptical of private business. Without government, this is all complete bullshit. There can be no efficiency where everyone is on his own. Talk about the inefficiency of government plays into the hands of globalists. In this case, the public sector passes under the control of global governance. And it is controlled by private individuals. There is a destruction of states and absorption by private individuals. With all the many companies, the world is really ruled by a dozen real owners. And these owners, speaking about the effectiveness of private business, swallow a trifle and have centralized management. No private initiative within companies. Of course there are branches. But they are part of the structure, and do not work on their own. 10 lyam a month, not a lot. Even 10 lyam per month’s salary is also a small business. Man 500-600. Private army is nonsense. A private tank regiment, a private air defense division, a private nuclear submarine, ... And no central command !? Private sanbat. Who will give orders to the private army? Or will there be an order with financing? I give the order, take this height, cry a million! Opponent, I give the order to arrest my leadership, I pay two lemons! How will a private sanbat be treated? Who will not have the money will go to the authorities? Should everyone serve? But what about efficiency? Then everyone should learn the profession of surgeon and plumber. Why not? Is the military a profession or a hobby?
  20. Chaos
    Chaos 17 November 2017 09: 06 New
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    The ideology of the state. 1. Scientific and technological progress in all areas. 2. Sports. 3. Social protection.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 November 2017 09: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Chaos
      The ideology of the state. 1. Scientific and technological progress in all areas. 2. Sports. 3. Social protection.

      This sport is part of the social program - free sections and a high coaching salary starting from the level of the PGT Sports Palace.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 09: 16 New
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      :-) Nice joke! I’ll copy it on social networks.
  21. cedar
    cedar 17 November 2017 09: 12 New
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    The lack of ideology, as well as external management, was imposed on us by the winners in the twentieth century, which were the USA and England. They secured this victory in the Constitution of the Russian Federation. All the authorities, and there are three of them under the constitution, are not obliged to obey the people who are not the “source of power” and who care about them, although it is named there
    The Russian Federation is a social state, and about the winners and their colonial state apparatus, which regularly must supply the metropolis with wealth sucked from the colony.
    At least 100 greens are pumped out of Russia per year. Such is the price of the lack of a people’s not only a unifying ideology, but also a mind capable of understanding and realizing its true position.
    Without changing the colonial constitution, a trap will be skinning us.
    Change requires a national referendum. Here is an idea and ideology in one bottle. This is exactly what President Putin wants, the leader of the Russian National Liberation Movement.

    P.S.
    The IMF ordered, and "our" government said, "Yes." From January 1, raise gas prices, i.e. for all.
    There are other preparations of the colonialists, how to defeat the people on the eve of the elections, so that with their hands, once again, in the next colony, to remove the leader of the liberation movement that they do not like.
    See at the root, dear.
  22. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2017 09: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Neputin
    They did not come up with anything sensible. From the word at all. Love for the Motherland and patriotism is not an ideology, it is a state of mind, and they (the authorities) are trying to put it at the forefront. On this occasion, at the time, Saltykov-Shchedrin walked. "Something began to push for patriotism. Probably steal ..."

    -------------------------
    It was precisely the new ideology of power that they came up with, a cunning one, not advertised especially, but well manifested in detail. This is the Black Hundreds, such a tight-class protection of the current government, abundantly oiled with liberal Westernism. This is manifested in the tantrums of Poklonskaya and Zhirinovsky about the monarchy, and in the call candidates in the form of Ksenia-Grisha-Alesha.
  23. Leontrotsky
    Leontrotsky 17 November 2017 09: 31 New
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    I wonder what is the ideology of the West? The ideology of the Golden Calf? So much the worse for them. Under various ideologies, we emerged victorious both in the company of 1812 and in Stalingrad and Poltava. And whom did they defeat? Grenada and Iraq?)))
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 November 2017 09: 37 New
      +1
      USSR they won.
    2. Chaos
      Chaos 17 November 2017 10: 02 New
      +1
      yes you give up. after the war they ate sausage and went to Mercier. and my grandmother at harvesting damaged health. hunger, hard work.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 17 November 2017 10: 18 New
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        Quote: Chaos
        yes you give up. after the war they ate sausage and went to Mercier. and my grandmother at harvesting damaged health. hunger, hard work.

        My grandmothers, too, but in the confrontation between the USSR and the West they defeated, the CPSU Central Committee and republic leaders decided to transfer the devidents of power to real money and live "like in America", and the people stood in line at McDonald's and joined the "Western culture" in water dealerships. That and won.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 November 2017 10: 17 New
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      What is the ideology of the West? The ideology of the Golden Calf?
      Is it not so in Russia now?
  24. Vend
    Vend 17 November 2017 09: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: Orel
    the policy of the country's leadership does not cause a single support in the power circles, business and among ordinary people

    Quote: Orel
    Quote: Logall
    Article title: "State Department: Russia is weakened due to the lack of a unified ideology"


    State Department statement: "Russia does not have an ideological unity that would direct its actions."


    The title of the article is completely inconsistent with what the State Department said. It’s a completely different matter, that the policy of the country's leadership does not cause a single support in the power circles, business and among ordinary people. Hence, the course towards confrontation and opposition to the West has serious domestic problems. Actually this is a fact, and the State Department said this, and not about the "lack of a single ideology." Actually in Western countries there are also different opinions on the issue of relations with our country. This is normal.

    And what is a country where everyone shares the actions of the government? This is the situation in all countries of the world. The point is the accent.
  25. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 November 2017 10: 27 New
    +1
    Ideology proclaimed long ago



    What is not clear?
    1. Chaos
      Chaos 17 November 2017 10: 39 New
      +1
      Yes, everything is clear. I would like to hear that the peoples living in the territory of the Russian Federation are chosen by God. And the rest of the country should work for us, thereby raising the standard of living in the Russian Federation.
  26. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 17 November 2017 11: 36 New
    +2
    The Russian economy is "torn" to shreds, "isolated" from world institutions, there is no ideological unity with allies, but it is not clear what will be worn out?
  27. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2017 12: 01 New
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    Quote: Chaos
    Yes, everything is clear. I would like to hear that the peoples living in the territory of the Russian Federation are chosen by God. And the rest of the country should work for us, thereby raising the standard of living in the Russian Federation.

    ----------------------
    These are pipes. People of Russia again want to return to serfdom. Our executives want to live in America or Great Britane.
  28. Eurodav
    Eurodav 17 November 2017 12: 03 New
    +1
    Dunce, they are discussing something in which they understand nothing ...
  29. nikolaev
    nikolaev 17 November 2017 12: 05 New
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    There is such an ideology - to defend and strengthen the homeland. On this line, a breakdown of society and oligarchs + creative-thieving punks happen to be in the camp of the enemy.
  30. Eurodav
    Eurodav 17 November 2017 12: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    What is the ideology of the West? The ideology of the Golden Calf?
    Is it not so in Russia now?

    Not this way! Some individuals, perhaps, but for some reason you asked for the whole of Russia ...
  31. cedar
    cedar 17 November 2017 13: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    Ideology proclaimed long ago



    What is not clear?


    It is not clear why the leader ... of Russian liberals fell upon the sanctions of Western liberals?
    "The raven will not peck out the crow", and here they are preparing to arrange, if not the October relativity, then the Kiev Maidan ...
    Discrepancy, dear ...
  32. Serg nik
    Serg nik 17 November 2017 15: 28 New
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    The absence of an ideology uniting the country is one of the “viruses” remaining since the “perestroika”. It is bad that the current authorities have come up with nothing better than to turn to religion. It is good that Russia is a country that can exist even contrary to the state.
  33. Antokha
    Antokha 17 November 2017 17: 27 New
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    What is true is true - we do not have ideology, and this weakens us very much. Almost all countries have an ideology. We definitely need it, without it we can exist for a long time.
  34. erased
    erased 17 November 2017 18: 52 New
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    There is an ideology in the Russian Federation. She is simple.
    1. Rob as much as you can and drag to your home! If you share it, you won’t be anything for it.
    2. Spit on the people, he will die anyway!
    3. You can do absolutely everything and you are above the law, for the strong spit on the law. And do not pay attention to the slaves, while they can walk freely. For the time being.

    That's all. The main thing is that the Kremlin supports and provides this. And there, at home, you have full support. If only not to go against their own. Who’s yours? True, mine are there.
  35. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 17 November 2017 18: 57 New
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    They said it very correctly in the State Department ... The absence of not only a “unified” but generally ideology in Russia actually puts it on the edge of survival. You can’t argue with objective reality. A country in which two times over a century has completely changed the governing elite ... a potential candidate for plunder and destruction ... Yes, even if the new elite were at least a little bit adequate then okay. And then either the Bolsheviks (Jews mainly) Stalin barely saved the country and strengthened it, then the Democrats (again mainly from the same diaspora), but now there is neither Stalin nor ideology, and in general there is nothing bringing people together, thieves at ALL levels and power and "business".