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Israeli Glock - MASADA Pistol

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More recently, a new gun from the Israeli was demonstrated armory IWI company. The new weapon received the name MASADA and journalists have dubbed it the “Israeli Glock”. Despite the fact that the gun is still completely fresh, nobody conceals certain aspects and features of its design and all of them are presented on the company's website in text or video material.


Taking into account the fact that most of the Internet resources were limited only to mentioning the appearance of a new pistol without any details of its device, it would not be superfluous to study weapons in more detail.

The reasons for the appearance of the gun MASADA

Any sensible leadership of the country is trying to provide its own army and law enforcement agencies with weapons and ammunition of its own production. Even if the country does not have the opportunity to develop its own unique weapons, it is still trying to deploy the production of weapons and ammunition on its territory under a license from major weapons companies. Such an approach makes it possible not to depend on other countries in the event of a deterioration in relations, or even war.

It would be naive to believe that Israel will not adhere to this rule and the replacement of the Glock, with a similarly designed gun of its own design, will not happen.

Those who are fond of handguns will remember that IWI has pistols under the designation Jericho 941. It should be noted that these guns in any of their performance are very charismatic, resemble the outwardly well-known “Desert Eagle”, and their characteristics are quite good, for which you need to thank a design similar to Hi-Power and CZ-75. This weapon has proven to be an excellent gun, combining both high reliability and accuracy, but the Austrian Glock liked more, primarily due to the high safety of the weapon.

One way or another, but the question of creating your own pistol, with a pre-stroke shock trigger mechanism, with a plastic frame and the possibility of relatively safe to carry a weapon with a cartridge in the chamber, was only temporary. It is still difficult to say how this gun will spread, but it is logical to assume that it should be used by the Israeli army and police.

The design of the gun MASADA

The basis of the gun was the automation with a short stroke of the barrel. The coupling of the barrel and the housing-bolt occurs due to the occurrence of a protrusion above the chamber in the window for ejection of spent cartridges. Disengagement of the barrel and the housing-bolt is carried out while reducing the breech breech due to the interaction of the cutout in the tide under the chamber and the transverse pin.

As for the firing mechanism, one can only say that it will be a percussion trigger with pre-arming, how much it will be similar to the “Glockovsky” while it is too early to discuss. In addition, the manufacturers themselves emphasize that USM can be replaced with a more convenient one, that is, it is assumed that this part of the weapon will exist in various ways.

If we talk about the adaptation of the gun for the specific needs of the shooter, then you can immediately pay attention to the possibility of fitting the handle of the weapon to the size of the user's palm. This is done in the simplest way, with the help of interchangeable rear pads on the handle of the weapon, which are held by the pin. Lining of three different sizes, which is quite enough in most cases. In the collection, everything looks harmonious and seems to be a single whole, but this is more likely the norm for modern pistols, claiming at least some distribution.

Sights, which were installed on the exhibition sample, are the usual rear sight and front sight with tritium inserts, but these are separate parts inserted into the seats on the casing-gate, which means they can also be replaced.
Separately, emphasis is placed on the “two-sidedness” of the weapon, but here it should be noted that from the controls, which generally can be duplicated, this gun has only a shutter delay key and a magazine eject button, there is no fuse switch.

The safety of the weapon is achieved thanks to the key mounted in the trigger of the gun. While it is not pressed, the trigger is blocked, and even if it is pressed, the pressing force will be large enough for the weapon to accidentally fire from interacting with foreign objects. It’s possible to argue about how safe it is to wear such pistols with a cartridge in the chamber for a long time, citing the most varied arguments, but time has shown that, with an adequate level of responsibility on the part of the owner, it is really safe. Apparently, the version of the weapon with the usual many switch fuse will also be present in the future line of pistols.

The frame of the gun is made of plastic. Anticipating questions about how reliable this plastic is in adverse conditions, the manufacturer noted on its website resistance to high and low temperatures without critical changes in strength, resistance to ultraviolet rays.

If you walk through individual trifles of weapons, then they include: a seat under the LCC or a flashlight in a frame under the barrel, an indicator of the presence of a cartridge in the chamber, played by the ejector of spent cartridges, notches on the casing-bolt for various grabs, in general, a standard set for most pistols past years 10-20.

Characteristics of the gun MASADA

The sample gun presented is powered by 9x19 cartridges from a magazine with a capacity for 17 cartridges. However, the manufacturer plans to produce weapons not only for other common cartridges, but also of different dimensions, which by itself will affect the capacity of the same store and other parameters of the weapon.

The showpiece pistol boasts a fairly small weight in 650 grams without ammunition with a total length of 189 millimeters and a barrel length of 104 millimeters. By the way, the barrel of the pistol has a polygonal cut, but it’s not possible to say back that such cutting of the barrel will be preserved for the whole future of a number of pistols.

Pros and cons of the gun MASADA

While this weapon has not received at least some distribution, it cannot be given an adequate assessment, but some conclusions can be made. The first positive point of the new gun, or rather the entire line of guns, should be the price. It would be unwise to start the production of weapons that would be more expensive than their main competitor, the production of which is not only established, but also its position in the market is fairly stable.

Israeli Glock - MASADA Pistol
What can be more confidently said is about maintainability. If the manufacturer claims that individual weapon units can be replaced with more convenient and suitable ones for various preferences and tasks, then these units can be easily replaced in the event of their failure.

You can also note the potential adaptation of weapons for different cartridges by replacing individual parts of the MASADA pistol, but there will already affect demand in a market that is difficult to predict.

The drawbacks of weapons can also be found. First of all, strange as it sounds, it is a small weight pistol. 650 grams on the latest cartridges in the store should loudly “knock on” the accuracy, especially with more powerful ammunition than the 9x19. Separately on the manufacturer's website, a low-set trunk is indicated with a plus, which should have a positive effect on accuracy. It is a comparative affair of course, but even the Glock's trunk axis is visually located below. The location of the store extraction key, taking into account its mirror image, suggests possible random clicks when shooting, although it is doubtful that this will be possible.

In general, in order to give a specific assessment, it is necessary to “feel” this weapon, or at least talk to those who used it, and for obvious reasons, few have read the novelty.

Conclusion

In conclusion, I would like to say that when the material for the article about this pistol was just beginning to be collected, the attitude to the weapon was like another pistol, which is now producing ten new models a year with almost identical characteristics and design. However, in the process of even such a superficial acquaintance with weapons, the MASADA pistol gradually began to be liked, despite some controversial points in its design. It seems that the weapons do not have any interesting new solutions, everything that has been presented in it for a long time and repeatedly implemented in other models from other manufacturers, but to try how it all works all together and how much better or worse the Glock has a great desire.

So we can say that if the designers of the IWI company work as well as their PR department, the gun turned out to be great.
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  1. tracer
    tracer 17 November 2017 16: 29 New
    +7
    Licked everything with Smith & Wesson MP9. only the ORIGINAL will be better anyway. I like its accuracy and safety from drum stripping. 18 rounds of ammunition store .... According to Glock’s application, it will be an order of magnitude. The handle of this creation is clearly not made under the big hand, there are no inserts regulating it. In a word, another super Jewish "about nothing." Their Jericho can boast of polygonal rifling, yes. But why? For a billion shots? From a pistol? The descent to Jericho is such that it’s very difficult to shoot accurately. He talked with former "ours" who served in the Israeli army. They called him "Jericho" and traded by hook or by crook for Glock. This gun is a dark horse, as it will show itself ... and do not care.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 17 November 2017 16: 58 New
      +3
      And why did you decide that you licked?
      Modern pistols are all alike.
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 17 November 2017 17: 21 New
        +6
        Modern pistols are all alike.

        Only for amateur.
      2. AlexMark
        17 November 2017 17: 26 New
        +7
        Quote: Lex.
        Modern pistols are all alike.

        So similar, but the Devil is in the details, and while these little things determine the characteristics of the weapon, its ease of use and so on.
      3. tracer
        tracer 17 November 2017 20: 10 New
        +4
        Cars are also the same for you. And their wheels are black and the steering wheel is one.
    2. AlexMark
      17 November 2017 17: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: tracer
      The handle of this creation is made obviously not under a big hand, there are no inserts regulating it.

      I apologize, did you read the article? wink
      If we talk about the adaptation of the gun for the specific needs of the shooter, then you can immediately pay attention to the possibility of fitting the handle of the weapon to the size of the user's palm. This is done in the simplest way, with the help of interchangeable rear pads on the handle of the weapon, which are held by the pin.
      1. tracer
        tracer 17 November 2017 20: 12 New
        +2
        Yes, I read only I can not call this narrow rectangle a full insert. So clumsy to do ...
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 17 November 2017 23: 19 New
      +6
      Also similar to H&K VP9.
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2017 18: 19 New
      0
      Quote: tracer
      Licked everything with Smith & Wesson MP9. only the ORIGINAL will be better anyway. I like its accuracy and safety from drum stripping. 18 rounds of ammunition store .... According to Glock’s application, it will be an order of magnitude. The handle of this creation is clearly not made under the big hand, there are no inserts regulating it. In a word, another super Jewish "about nothing." Their Jericho can boast of polygonal rifling, yes. But why? For a billion shots? From a pistol? The descent to Jericho is such that it’s very difficult to shoot accurately. He talked with former "ours" who served in the Israeli army. They called him "Jericho" and traded by hook or by crook for Glock. This gun is a dark horse, as it will show itself ... and do not care.

      If traded for Glock, then they served in the special forces of the Yamam police)))
    5. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 22: 49 New
      0
      The pistol is likely to come out not bad, but strange - a mid-size shutter with a barrel shook its hand to the full-sized handle
      According to the mind, it was to do TWO pistols at once - version 120 mm barrel 17 rounds and 102 mm barrel 15 rounds
      Mostly - you can see bkdet
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 17 November 2017 16: 46 New
    11
    I don’t know who loves what, but I won’t change my Jericho for any plastic toys.
    1. AlexMark
      17 November 2017 17: 19 New
      +7
      If you need an opinion from the side, Jericho, well, damn handsome, awesome, well, just wonderful, and this is not just my opinion)))
      1. Kibb
        Kibb 17 November 2017 22: 16 New
        +2
        I do not argue, but I still like the CZ75B more, although it is very difficult for me. But Jericho is really praised by users - a worthy heir to the classic CH
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 November 2017 18: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Kibb
          I do not argue, but I still like the CZ75B more, although it is very difficult for me. But Jericho is really praised by users - a worthy heir to the classic CH

          Licked license from beret.
          Of the pistols that were ever at my disposal, and this is Karin (Israel - licensed with FN), Chez, Jericho, Glock 19, an ultrasound gun is the best Glock.
          1. Kibb
            Kibb 18 November 2017 18: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Quote: Kibb
            I do not argue, but I still like the CZ75B more, although it is very difficult for me. But Jericho is really praised by users - a worthy heir to the classic CH

            Licked license from beret.
            Of the pistols that were ever at my disposal, and this is Karin (Israel - licensed with FN), Chez, Jericho, Glock 19, an ultrasound gun is the best Glock.

            Actually, you need to be absolutely blind so as not to see that ChZ75, this is the development of Browning / FN

            I won’t say anything bad about Glock, but firstly, like the previous speaker, I do not like plastic, and secondly, I don’t really like USM with a drummer. Nevertheless, yes, Glock is a very nice pistol to handle, but the quality of its shooting is still inferior to the ChZ.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 20 November 2017 00: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Kibb
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Quote: Kibb
              I do not argue, but I still like the CZ75B more, although it is very difficult for me. But Jericho is really praised by users - a worthy heir to the classic CH

              Licked license from beret.
              Of the pistols that were ever at my disposal, and this is Karin (Israel - licensed with FN), Chez, Jericho, Glock 19, an ultrasound gun is the best Glock.

              Actually, you need to be absolutely blind so as not to see that ChZ75, this is the development of Browning / FN

              I won’t say anything bad about Glock, but firstly, like the previous speaker, I do not like plastic, and secondly, I don’t really like USM with a drummer. Nevertheless, yes, Glock is a very nice pistol to handle, but the quality of its shooting is still inferior to the ChZ.

              A couple of thousand rounds of ammunition fired from the Chelyabinsk (courses and retraining), 1200 (the same) from Glock 19.
              Glock is better - I don’t remember a single misfire, more precisely, than ChZ. The trigger is a lot softer.
              1. Kibb
                Kibb 20 November 2017 09: 29 New
                0
                Well, I’m much more both from that and from another (though Glock 17 is not new), I just don’t like Glock and I just don’t like the descent, just because of some problems with my left hand I had to look for a replacement for ChZ (as I already wrote ChZ for me and so on heavy), Glock came up, but I didn’t achieve such quality of shooting as from the ChZ (plus, as I wrote again, I don’t like plastics and drumming, but there wasn’t much choice) and, in principle, many of my friends agree with this opinion. I tried P99 a few years ago and I liked it a lot more. However, I see no reason for the dispute - to taste and color, all pistols are different wink
              2. Michael HORNET
                Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 22: 52 New
                0
                What other Berettas are you talking about? Erichon is ChZ-75 with redistributed ergonomics, and DE style) but ergonomics at a height are also successfully made
                Descent for Glock vs. ChS - for Glock 2,5 kg for ChZ 1,5 kg in SA mode
                Glock is a lot to wear but not enough to shoot, ChZ vice versa)
      2. tracer
        tracer 18 November 2017 02: 18 New
        +1
        You have a strange idea of ​​beauty .... Women are beautiful .... And the gun is made of iron.
        1. Kibb
          Kibb 18 November 2017 14: 30 New
          +1
          It does not interfere drinks
    2. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 17 November 2017 17: 22 New
      +2
      ... and looks very solid.
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 17 November 2017 18: 36 New
      0
      Beautiful ..))
    4. tracer
      tracer 17 November 2017 20: 13 New
      0
      Even for denyuzhki? ..... Yes, you are a simple fetishist.
    5. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 18 November 2017 14: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I don’t know who loves what, but I won’t change my Jericho for any plastic toys.


      support
  3. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 17 November 2017 17: 20 New
    +1
    Jericho is much prettier .. This design is somewhat clumsy .. And a good weapon is almost always attractive.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2017 18: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      Jericho is much prettier .. This design is somewhat clumsy .. And a good weapon is almost always attractive.

      There are ribs on the sides of the shutter. When you learn to quickly load a gun, you pull it dry a hundred times opposite the target.
      From these ribs such cuts on the fingers will be ... I do not envy the cadets.
      1. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 22: 55 New
        0
        The strike gun, its own, must also be
        The plastic frame on the traditional trigger design did not pay off
        Therefore, strike and steel-trigger polymer)
  4. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 17 November 2017 18: 31 New
    0
    '' And what will the merchants answer ''. What is the domestic producer. Are there any Vector-Gyurza, GS-18, etc. What old old Makarov is in our ranks as before? And it means that any sane leadership of the country is trying to provide its army and law enforcement with weapons and ammunition of its own production is not about Russia where the weapons of SpetsNaz often take foreign models (which weapons that equipment). Is that just me `` For the Power offensive ''?
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 17 November 2017 18: 48 New
      +2
      Merchants answer below))) PL-14 and PL-15K
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2017 18: 26 New
      0
      Quote: WapentakeLokki
      '' And what will the merchants answer ''. What is the domestic producer. Are there any Vector-Gyurza, GS-18, etc. What old old Makarov is in our ranks as before? And it means that any sane leadership of the country is trying to provide its army and law enforcement with weapons and ammunition of its own production is not about Russia where the weapons of SpetsNaz often take foreign models (which weapons that equipment). Is that just me `` For the Power offensive ''?

      Yarygin is not a bad gun.
  5. Mairos
    Mairos 17 November 2017 18: 38 New
    +1
    This one is also beautiful and predatory-beautiful.
    https://topwar.ru/124326-kalashnikov-predstavil-k
    ompaktnyy-pistolet-lebedeva-pl-15k.html

    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 17 November 2017 22: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Mairos
      This one is good too

      In my opinion, full-size is more interesting.
      1. tracer
        tracer 18 November 2017 02: 20 New
        0
        In my opinion, too, a beautiful gun with the right balance and a very low-set barrel. This will make the series of shots more accurate and faster.
  6. akela_sp
    akela_sp 17 November 2017 19: 25 New
    +6
    '' And what will the merchants answer ''. What is the domestic producer. Are there any Vector-Gyurza, GS-18, etc. What old old Makarov is in our ranks as before?

    In the photo the new gun is kept in two !!! hands.
    I went to the shooting range to try, what distinguishes the current Yarygin from the "old man" Makarov. He took it in his hand, stood in the pose as taught in the 70s, sideways to the target, his left hand behind his back, and he dangles in his hand. Instructor to me: "What are you doing. With two hands, please, this gun is not designed to be fired with one hand."
    Question to the professionals.
    Who, in real combat or operational conditions, targets an opponent in two hands, like in a Hollywood action movie, or computer shooter. It is no more sensible to hide the body, or even part of the head, behind a shelter. And how then to shoot with two hands? And if in combat conditions it came to close combat, isn’t it better to have a grenade in the left? So it seemed to me that if fate throws me into these conditions, I’d better take the “old man” Makarov, though it’s hard to shoot from one hand, but somehow it’s possible.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 November 2017 21: 02 New
      +5
      "or in operational conditions he targets an opponent in two hands, like in a Hollywood action movie or computer shooter. It’s not more sensible to hide the body, or even part of the head, behind cover" ///

      I answer how an experienced muff from a pistol with experience smile
      Two-handed shooting - for high-speed shooting. For professionals only.
      If you are not sure of the accuracy of your shooting, then it is better to keep the body sideways and the second
      with your hand, just support the bottom first (I do this). And shoot from the knee or from behind cover.
      1. tracer
        tracer 18 November 2017 02: 22 New
        +1
        Better yet, do not shoot at your logic ... Just show the language ...
        1. MOLODCHIK
          MOLODCHIK 18 November 2017 14: 24 New
          +1
          loshara. the Israelite answers, in any case, this man shot so much ammunition that you never dreamed of.
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 17 November 2017 21: 59 New
      0
      With two hands, please, this gun is not designed to be fired with one hand. "

      This is nonsense. PY is an ordinary pistol, not heavier than Stechkin or Mauser. And with it you can perfectly shoot with one hand.
      In the modern shooting course, there are exercises for both one-handed and two-handed shooting, and there is, at the shooter's request.
      1. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 22: 47 New
        0
        Why write nonsense? PY is unreliable, because it has an ill-conceived automation system, but you can shoot from it with one hand without breakdown. 80% of those unsubscribing have never fired a pistol, and if they fired, they have not learned))
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2017 18: 31 New
      0
      Quote: akela_sp
      '' And what will the merchants answer ''. What is the domestic producer. Are there any Vector-Gyurza, GS-18, etc. What old old Makarov is in our ranks as before?

      In the photo the new gun is kept in two !!! hands.
      I went to the shooting range to try, what distinguishes the current Yarygin from the "old man" Makarov. He took it in his hand, stood in the pose as taught in the 70s, sideways to the target, his left hand behind his back, and he dangles in his hand. Instructor to me: "What are you doing. With two hands, please, this gun is not designed to be fired with one hand."
      Question to the professionals.
      Who, in real combat or operational conditions, targets an opponent in two hands, like in a Hollywood action movie, or computer shooter. It is no more sensible to hide the body, or even part of the head, behind a shelter. And how then to shoot with two hands? And if in combat conditions it came to close combat, isn’t it better to have a grenade in the left? So it seemed to me that if fate throws me into these conditions, I’d better take the “old man” Makarov, though it’s hard to shoot from one hand, but somehow it’s possible.

      Up to 8 meters (at speed), shoot with one hand, then with two. Something like this )))
      In fact, how come :)
      1. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 22: 57 New
        0
        With two hands just shoot three times faster and more accurately than with one hand
        So choose for yourself. When it comes to firing a pistol with shelters it will be sparse)
  7. beeper
    beeper 18 November 2017 00: 21 New
    +5
    Dear Mark! I came to the site Topvar.ru, I saw, carefully (even somehow corrosively) I read and cast a spell, positively yes , Your work (as well as the fruit of the Israeli gunsmiths described by you))).
    But is it really necessary to artificially attract "flaws" by the ears winked ? After all, the small weight of the gun is not so small, it is usual for a plastic "form factor" smile and marksmanship is by no means a hindrance, categorically disagrees with yours: “Disadvantages ... First of all, oddly enough, this is a small weight of the gun. 650 grams on the latest cartridges in the store should loudly“ popped up ”on accuracy, especially with more powerful ammunition than 9x19 ". "On accuracy" that's for sure wink it doesn’t “ring around”, because the shooting is carried out in single shots, that is, with the restoration of the uniform position of the weapon relative to the target before each pull of the trigger. The bullet leaves the bore in small fractions of a second, all the consequences of recoil occur after its departure and a decrease in the total weight of the entire system (due to the consumption of one and a half dozen rounds) is unlikely to change the angle of departure of the bullet so that the accuracy of hits is so noticeably “backfired” by 10 -25 meters winked ?!
    If the balance of the pistol is correctly calculated by the designers, then the battle with him will be stable at any rate of ammunition. The shooter’s subjective sensations are another matter, but here’s the order, this is a system with a short barrel stroke — the recoil will feel softer (than with a pistol with a free shutter, but “sharpened” under a powerful cartridge) and the hand should not “dry”, and the handle (in the photo) has a large support area — a wide smooth back, “unclouded” neither by the “automatic fuse”, nor by the designer “refinements” that dig into the palm of the hand when “grabbed”.
    In my opinion, the design of the Israeli pistol is a little underdeveloped — the awkward trigger “gachok” and the eye-catching look of the “hyper-circular” outline of the trigger guard, sights look rude, but ... taste and color ... request In general, in the hands of a fighter (in the photo) the gun looks really nothing (the black color conceals “particulars”) and there remains only a general outline of a rather harmonious proportion, vividly reminding me of “CheZeta” winked ) smile
    As a mechanical engineering designer, the jumper of the shutter-casing (weak on the right side, under the extraction "window") and this, already traditional "Glokovskaya", dirt-collecting slit between the frame and the shutter "hurt me" smile . But again, this is my personal opinion, I do not impose it at all and I think that “in the process” the Israeli gunsmiths will further refine their gun, internally and externally.
    Thank you, Mark, for your tireless search! I was interested to learn about the new Israeli pistol.
    hi
    1. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 20 November 2017 23: 02 New
      0
      Finally, someone who really understands something)
      The shape of the trigger guard is generally stupid, the gun came out high (many are lower), the combination of a handle and a shutter is awkward (either shorten one or extend the second or release two options), there is an excess of teeth in front, Glock somehow manages with one slot
  8. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 18 November 2017 10: 45 New
    +1
    I would like to test))
  9. Maz
    Maz 18 November 2017 20: 31 New
    0
    Quote: tracer
    Licked everything with Smith & Wesson MP9. only the ORIGINAL will be better anyway. I like its accuracy and safety from drum stripping. 18 rounds of ammunition store .... According to Glock’s application, it will be an order of magnitude. The handle of this creation is clearly not made under the big hand, there are no inserts regulating it. In a word, another super Jewish "about nothing." Their Jericho can boast of polygonal rifling, yes. But why? For a billion shots? From a pistol? The descent to Jericho is such that it’s very difficult to shoot accurately. He talked with former "ours" who served in the Israeli army. They called him "Jericho" and traded by hook or by crook for Glock. This gun is a dark horse, as it will show itself ... and do not care.

    I heard the same thing from Israeli guards with at least 15 years of experience
  10. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 19 November 2017 05: 29 New
    +2
    Well, since such a booze went for the pistols, then I am very partial to M9. wink
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 20 November 2017 00: 35 New
      +1
      This is a classic :)
  11. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 20 November 2017 21: 52 New
    0
    Quote: tracer
    He talked with former "ours" who served in the Israeli army. They called him "Jericho" and traded by hook or by crook for Glock. This gun is a dark horse, as it will show itself ... and do not care.

    I’m embarrassed to ask ... And where is the "Jericho" used in the Israeli army?
  12. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 20 November 2017 21: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Krasnodar

    Licked license from beret.

    With a Tanfoglio pistol, which is a licensed copy of the ChZ-75.