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Blood in Ukraine: A Surprise for the Russian Presidential Elections

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Blood in Ukraine: A Surprise for the Russian Presidential Elections



The meeting of Volker and Surkov showed that the positions of Russia and the United States in Ukraine are very far from each other, and they need to be brought together. Moscow has made a very strong move with the exchange of prisoners and is waiting for 2019 of the year when it will be fully ready to start its game. And the United States can not wait ...

Exchange of prisoners: the strong move of Russia and ... Medvedchuk

15 November 2017 on the territory of the Resurrection New Jerusalem Monastery special representative of Ukraine in the Tripartite contact group on the peaceful settlement of the situation in Donbass Viktor Medvedchuk at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, Kiril, asked captives.



The move was the strongest. The meeting of Kurt Volker and Vladislav Surkov has just ended. Although both sides have made progress, their positions today are very far from each other. And it seems that the US and Russia will not be able to agree until the end of 2019. Why exactly before this date?

First, Donald Trump cannot make concessions to Moscow. This is just what his opponents are waiting for in Washington, which in this case will immediately launch an attack on him.

Secondly, elections will start in Russia, and Vladimir Putin will not make any significant concessions either. Moreover, so far for him on the Ukrainian "front" everything is going pretty well.

Third, Petro Poroshenko also cannot make important concessions, since in this case “patriots” and “opposition” will immediately “eat” him. And he also has choices that he can not lose.

But in the 2019 year, when both Moscow and Kiev will have a pre-election campaign, and in the United States they will again be preparing for the presidential elections, a very convenient situation may arise to reach an agreement. Moscow’s trumps at this point will be indisputable, and most likely there will be nothing to cover them.

United States

Americans have a lot worse in Ukraine. They failed in 2014 to draw Moscow into open confrontation, and now they are reaping the fruits of their “victories”. Kiev for them is gradually turning into a suitcase without a handle.



In Ukraine, as time has shown, it is easy to enter, it is hard to resist ...

The strategic value of this territory after the construction of Russian bypass gas pipelines for Washington drops sharply. Unfortunately for the Americans, Russia did not manage to quarrel with Europe. On the contrary, with each new year the axis Moscow - Berlin becomes more and more tangible.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine itself, Washington is not able to control the power set by it. Poroshenko’s regime has chosen the worst-case behavior for the United States. He launched into all troublesome, and clearly behind the backs of the Americans agreed with the Russians, and now he is doing everything to discredit once and for all the idea of ​​the western vector of Ukraine’s integration. At the same time, an attempt to put the regime in place with the hands of Saakashvili and direct American agents (NABU) has obviously failed.

Time is now playing against the United States, and they simply cannot sit and wait for the 2019 of the year when Moscow finishes training. It is necessary to make a move, and there is no time for a mistake anymore.

Strike on elections

One of the most convenient options for American diplomacy could be a sharp worsening of the situation in Ukraine on the eve or right after the Russian presidential election.

And it will not necessarily be an escalation of the conflict in the Donbas. Rather, on the contrary, something can happen on Ukrainian territory that should either push the Russian authorities to intervene, or it will be a strong blow to its image.

For example, some kind of megaprovocation is akin to Odessa (May 2). Although, I think it could be something else.

What does this give Washington? The first and most important is the initiative. The enemy will be forced to respond to American strikes, and sooner or later we can hope for his mistake.

The second. Probably, the strike will create a new large fault line between Moscow and Kiev, which will cancel out the temporary agreements between Poroshenko and Putin and make the conclusion of new ones impossible.

As already mentioned, a blow will be dealt to the image of the Russian authorities. Yes, it will not demolish the regime, but it will greatly narrow the fork of solutions for it and, possibly, force it to abandon the best options.

And one more important moment. It is not the administration that can strike this blow, but Trump's opponents. In this case, they will be able to force their adversary to completely abandon their foreign policy (agreements with Moscow and the confrontation with China) and force them to return to the path that the administration of Barack Obama followed before him.

I am sure that the weakening of Poroshenko’s regime, which in this case becomes inevitable, will be used by the Ukrainian “opposition” for an early reboot of power and will add chaos.

Thus, Washington (official or unofficial) has a chance to completely reset the situation in Ukraine. The game of Moscow will be broken, and Kiev will turn into an even bigger problem for the neighboring countries. That is just what Americans need.

How to prevent this



There is no one simple and radical solution. Here we need a set of measures that will either force the enemy to abandon such plans, or reduce the effect of their implementation to zero.

A warning. One of the most effective solutions is the warning, that is, the preparation of the information space. If you throw into the Ukrainian society the idea that such a plan is not only possible, but also being prepared, then its implementation for the customer can lead to the opposite result. A timely, successful counterplay can force an adversary to abandon his plans. For example, write more analytical articles on this topic.

Preparation of response steps. The opponent should know that you are ready and for each of his "shah", you will surely give him a "mate". To give up his intentions, he just needs to show his willingness. As an example, I can cite the Little Russia project, which Zakharchenko spoke about several months ago. This is not his impromptu and not stupid. In fact, this is Moscow’s response to a possible Nazi coup in Kiev. And if Russia can show its readiness on any of the possible American options, then this will certainly force them to abandon the implementation of their plans.

Counterplay In the end, the enemy can simply replay and try to impose a game on his terms. Abrupt steps, I do not expect. But the exchange of “all for all” can just be an element of counterplay, which makes the aggravation of the situation not entirely logical. By the way, the possible refusal to go for a second presidential term on the part of Vladimir Putin fits in very well with this additional argument. A blow to the image of a successor is not as important to Washington as a blow to the image of GDP.

We will not think ahead. But there is a danger of a sharp aggravation of the situation in Ukraine. And in order to avoid this, we must act yesterday, which, in fact, is happening ... And therefore there is a chance that we will be able to avoid this scenario.
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  1. avia12005
    avia12005 17 November 2017 06: 48 New
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    Butting with the United States in the Ukrainian field is stupid, pointless and counterproductive. It is necessary to butt with him on the American field. As long as the United States and Britain exist in their current form, Russia will not be allowed to develop calmly. Washington must be destroyed. Point.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 17 November 2017 06: 53 New
      +2
      avia12005 Today, 06:48 Washington should be destroyed. Dot.

      ... boldly, but very accurately ...
      1. Lycan
        Lycan 17 November 2017 16: 12 New
        0
        Just like Carthage ...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 November 2017 07: 58 New
      +8
      How tired of this next vanging, fortune-telling on maps of virtual opportunities and pre-election "scammers". Cases must be done, and not engage in semi-political verbiage.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 17 November 2017 09: 27 New
        +7
        To do business, you must first assess the situation from different angles.
        Otherwise, this may not be the case. As in the famous joke - "What is there to think, you need to shake!"
      2. Yurasumy
        17 November 2017 11: 34 New
        +4
        You suggest not to write anything to anyone? All media close? To take automatons into everyone's hands? And do the thing? Or how to understand you?
        1. stas
          stas 17 November 2017 12: 44 New
          12
          It is necessary to write reasonable articles and not Urya speculation.
          What does the election and the future of Donbass have to do with it, not everything in Russia will depend on Putin.
          For Russia, the stratification of society is a great danger, a market flea market that harms everyone, except for the thief-oligarchs who are protected by power.
          1. 97110
            97110 17 November 2017 13: 18 New
            +7
            Quote: stas
            except for the thieves-oligarchs whom the roof of power.

            It’s very deftly that you rearranged cause and effect. We live (or live, as the PFR aptly defines it) in a capitalist country where the ruling class (including oligarch thieves. The rest, unfortunately, are not saints) are hired by the authorities. Should she protect workers?
            1. stas
              stas 17 November 2017 14: 44 New
              +5
              Do not be cunning.
              Power must work for the people in accordance with the Constitution of Russia.
              And the cause of our problems is a fascist market economy with the elite, which the government is protecting.
              Therefore, in the vocabulary of power there are no words about truth, justice and human conscience.
              There is loot and only loot, but they share the loot, so the people are Figv, and how many you will steal to your loved ones. That's the whole navel arithmetic (simple arithmetic) to steal and divide yourself more.
              1. 97110
                97110 17 November 2017 19: 09 New
                +6
                Quote: stas
                Do not be cunning.

                And I do not dissemble. In the discipline "Scientific Communism" I was taught (long ago, in the year 75) a simple truth: "The basis of any social phenomenon is to see its economic base." Therefore, the oligarchs and other "owners" are primary, and so the power that you condemn is secondary. For hired by the employer - the capitalist. Thus, in Soviet times, they painted Kukryniksy, fat, in a cylinder and with a large bomb in his fist. Behind him is a forest of large-caliber artillery barrels. And saliva drips from fangs from anger in the USSR. Where no one hired the government. It is itself ...
          2. Sverdlov
            Sverdlov 17 November 2017 18: 04 New
            +1
            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        2. Jodina
          Jodina 19 November 2017 02: 08 New
          0
          I suggest not paying for a patent, but taxes, my friend :)
        3. Jodina
          Jodina 19 November 2017 02: 15 New
          0
          I noticed one more interesting thing. Druzhban Vash, Mashiel, a Jew, fasts where people don’t even react.
          Yuri Ivanovich - hammer him with a paddle!
      3. kiril-belo
        kiril-belo 17 November 2017 16: 55 New
        +3
        Back in 2014, it was necessary to make a successful march to Lviv after the statement of Yanukovych. Then today you’re already boiling, you would have settled down and Ukraine would not have been, and the problem would have resolved by itself.
    3. Romey
      Romey 17 November 2017 09: 20 New
      +3
      Butting with the United States in the Ukrainian field is stupid, pointless and counterproductive. You have to butt him on an American field.

      What did you mean? Or about whom? And in general some kind of heresy. How is it possible? After all, there they print the sacred. wink
      As long as the USA and Britain exist in their current form, Russia will not be allowed to develop quietly.

      We have never had and will never have greenhouse conditions, but nonetheless, in the presence of shaving and Yankees, the Russian Federation can develop if it wants to. So far, only the appearance of desire is observed ...
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 17 November 2017 10: 09 New
        0
        History suggests that external forces in their face will never allow the stable development of Russia. What will put up with the strengthening of the geopolitical opponent?
        1. dmitry.kashkaryow
          dmitry.kashkaryow 17 November 2017 12: 52 New
          0
          Quote: avia12005
          will never allow the stable development of Russia. Which will put up with gain

          "Not allow" their gut is thin! To embarrass is a fact. Slow down as much as you like. But Russia is developing and the United States, together with its USA, is trying to achieve a state of things when Russia can pursue an active, offensive policy that destroys the cozy world of the world robbery club. They are afraid of this with trembling knees and the task of Russia is not to frighten the Western establishment, until they lose their minds, when they can reach for the last argument - the "vigorous" weapon!
          1. 97110
            97110 17 November 2017 13: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: dmitry.kashkaryow
            when Russia will be able to pursue an active, offensive policy that destroys the cozy world of the robbery club.

            The Russian Federation has a purely constructive policy. The Russian Federation is not going to destroy anything. To occupy a decent place in the club in the Russian Federation and get your share in the possibility of robbing someone, like all other members - nothing more.
            1. stas
              stas 17 November 2017 15: 42 New
              +2
              The tsarist government creates a capitalist fascist economic paradise for its elite.
              A large organized crime group needs a lot of space, and the people in this organized crime group play the role of men (slaves) according to the prison classification.
      2. Essex62
        Essex62 17 November 2017 16: 55 New
        +1
        Only if a fence shuts off and Felix and Lavrentiy lead everyone to a common denominator. Citizens of the Russian State should know that to be rich is bad and no way down. The limit of dreams (in modern conditions) - a cottage in two floors and Toyota
    4. andrew42
      andrew42 17 November 2017 10: 41 New
      +2
      The American Field is the emission of the inexhaustible green papers of the US Federal Reserve, the organ of transnational financial control in the hands of the Zionists. This "American field" is reliably protected by the "democratic values" in the brainwashed American citizen, and by the most expensive armed forces in the world. The chimera can collapse only when the parasite is cut off from the juices. So everything is much more complicated. The battlefield is Earth.
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    6. AIR
      AIR 17 November 2017 13: 26 New
      +2
      The Iron Curtain must be returned! It will immediately become easier.
      1. ID90
        ID90 17 November 2017 13: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: AVIA
        The Iron Curtain must be returned! It will immediately become easier.

        you need to go to Pyongyang.
        1. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 17 November 2017 14: 27 New
          +4
          Quote: ID90
          you need to go to Pyongyang.

          Yes, at least send to Beijing for a week. There is no Google, there is no YouTube, there is no Google.
          Calling wherever the wiretap immediately turns on. The cameras are almost in the toilet. ordinary people do not know anything except the Sino-Japanese war. Television two channels war with Japan.
          I would look at this Patriot.
          1. demo
            demo 17 November 2017 15: 14 New
            +2
            And also series about the Ming and Qing dynasty.
    7. Curious
      Curious 17 November 2017 14: 15 New
      +1
      "Washington must be destroyed. Point." In the language of the enemy - THE FLOW OF THE IMMEDIATE FANTASY.
    8. Natalia777
      Natalia777 17 November 2017 15: 09 New
      +2
      And so it goes. The US is losing to Russia in a hybrid war and in the political arena. USA lost
      Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in Russia. And the biggest blow to the United States is their finances. The United States was essentially bankrupt and planned to improve its financial situation by gobbling up Russia and Europe, plunging them into a war for Ukraine. Adds oil to the fire of US bankruptcy by closing the Syrian oil crane - that is, shale American oil. US spending is higher than revenue. The United States is already rolling downhill and the speed of the fall of the United States is increasing.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 17 November 2017 15: 51 New
        +2
        ... yeah ... they’ve been rolling and rolling downhill for 300 years ...
        ... and the whole world is buying up and buying up their "candy wrappers" ... so that their kirdyk will wait until the "second coming" ...
        Well, about the Crimea, which the United States "lost", you obviously turned down ...
      2. stas
        stas 17 November 2017 16: 17 New
        +1
        Natalia, well, you can’t show your blond brains so convexly.
        Blondes women are forgiven much, but not perceived, their fool
        children or grandchildren brains until they send far in Russian.
    9. Essex62
      Essex62 17 November 2017 16: 59 New
      0
      Behind everything is burning and crying, everything is scattering ahead - the dream of every Soviet warrior before a fucking perestroika
    10. dSK
      dSK 17 November 2017 21: 46 New
      +3
      Dear analysts! Recent decades, the Russian Federation has survived two Chechen - Dagestan wars, halted the process of further destruction. 2008 - South Ossetia and Abkhazia were defended (restoration of Tskhinval and annual subsidies to these regions). 2014 - the protection of Crimea and its restoration (energy, water, roads, bridge.) The population of Crimea is more than Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
      Now help is to Donbas (more than 60 humcon convoys and this is just the beginning), the population is larger than in Crimea. This week, some deputies of the Verkhovna Rada proposed restoring Donbass at the expense of Russia. And who will help Donbas? In this case, and other problems in Russia above the roof. The simple rule is "don’t swallow a piece that you can’t swallow, you can choke. "Donbas will not end, will have to restore the rest of the Orthodox part of Ukraine. hi
      1. dSK
        dSK 17 November 2017 22: 40 New
        +4
        "Sow a habit, reap a character, sow a character reap a fate." The states are used to raking in heat with the wrong hands - if they gather a crowd of 20 for one, and find a "possessed" like Hitler to lead the crowd in Europe or Asia - there will be a "big war."
        States alone will not attack Russia openly. Japan was the first to start a war with the States. The States began the war with Germany after many years of requests from the Allies and only when Russia did the main work.
        In order to gather the crowd as much as possible, they offer "free cheese" in the form of cheap loans, development grants, "visa-free", etc. Then, under the pretext of protecting themselves from "mythical" threats, they are dragged into NATO. Whole parliaments bribe. "Blackmail and bribery." Large, independent countries are crushed into pieces, falling apart from the inside and out. A striking example of Yugoslavia. Now only Serbia is not a member of NATO. The same is prepared for Ukraine. When NATO bases appear in another country, the mousetrap closes. After a few years, the supply of “free cheese” is declining (the modern Baltic states) and demands for NATO spending are growing. hi
      2. dSK
        dSK 17 November 2017 23: 39 New
        +2
        In Russia, as always in conditions of extreme danger, there will be a further consolidation of society. hi
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 November 2017 06: 52 New
    0
    And one more important moment. This strike can be delivered not by the administration, but by opponents of Trump

    ... and judging by the latest statements of the "opponents of the trump" - this will happen ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 November 2017 06: 58 New
    +5
    there is a danger of a sharp aggravation of the situation in Ukraine

    Yes, this is a daily danger, given the inadequacy of the Kiev authorities. I am interested in another question. What provocation can Kiev commit in itself (the author of Donbass excluded) so that Russia was forced to intervene and undermine its image? The author is wise, and this is not the first time.
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 17 November 2017 07: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      What provocation can Kiev commit in itself (the author of Donbass excluded) so that Russia was forced to intervene and undermine its image?

      Well, for example, in Ukraine there are 15 nuclear reactors.
      There is also the Dnieper cascade of hydroelectric power stations.
      There is still a certain amount of chemical production, the accident at which, by its consequences, will be much more serious than the Chernobyl accident and will affect the entire region.
      It is possible to arrange interethnic clashes in the southeastern regions, as a result of which a mass of refugees, about 10 million people will move into the territory of Russia ...
      You can come up with a lot of scripts if you wish.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 17 November 2017 07: 30 New
        +1
        in Ukraine there are 15 nuclear reactors.
        There is also the Dnieper cascade of hydroelectric power stations.

        That is, Ukraine will decide to commit suicide? So you need to observe - as soon as the entire leadership of Ukraine rushes abroad, then your conspiracy theological version has the right to exist.
        1. Mik13
          Mik13 17 November 2017 09: 54 New
          +8
          Quote: rotmistr60
          That is, Ukraine will decide to commit suicide?

          Ukrainian politicians have committed suicide their political life in 2014. Current politicians are the occupation administration. They do not possess subjectivity.
          Actually, Ukraine as a state is no more. There are territories. Therefore, your phrase is incorrect. This is about Russia or the United States, we can say that "Russia has decided" or "the USA has decided." About Ukraine-is no longer possible.
          Quote: rotmistr60
          So you need to observe - as soon as the entire leadership of Ukraine rushes abroad, then your conspiracy theological version has the right to exist.
          When Oleg Tsarev spoke in the Ukrainian parliament in the autumn of 2013 and said that a coup and a civil war were being prepared for American money in Ukraine, he was also laughed at and called a conspiracy theorist. Although he disclosed financing schemes in detail ...
          Unlike Tsarev, I do not predict anything. I have identified factors that can be used to influence the Russian Federation.
          1. avt
            avt 17 November 2017 10: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Mik13
            Current politicians are the occupation administration. They do not possess subjectivity.

            Not certainly in that way .
            Quote: Mik13
            occupation administration

            This is Walker and the US Embassy, ​​and with his appointment, the level has been lowered from the Viceroy (Biden) to a simple Gauleiier from Mac Cain, and these, well, local, simple punitive liquidators, recruited to the schutzshaft, battalion and other separate Einsatzkomando like SBU, NABU and etc.And the rest is yes
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 17 November 2017 12: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: rotmistr60
          in Ukraine there are 15 nuclear reactors.
          There is also the Dnieper cascade of hydroelectric power stations.

          That is, Ukraine will decide to commit suicide? So you need to observe - as soon as the entire leadership of Ukraine rushes abroad, then your conspiracy theological version has the right to exist.
          Not the fact that Ukraine has a desire to "commit suicide", but the fact is that the government of Urkaina is ready to do anything to save its skin. About six months ago, they allowed American "specialists" access to their hydraulic structures. What is it for? I do not think that the mattresses are concerned about the technical condition of the dams in v. Urkaine. Obviously, they are plotting something not good.
      2. raw174
        raw174 17 November 2017 07: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Mik13
        Well, for example, in Ukraine there are 15 nuclear reactors.
        There is also the Dnieper cascade of hydroelectric power stations.
        There is still a certain amount of chemical production, the accident at which, by its consequences, will be much more serious than the Chernobyl accident and will affect the entire region.

        What's the point? They need a provocation for Russia's open invasion of Ukraine, and not a situation in which we will again need to save the independent from our own shit ... They need to de-credit the Kremlin primarily within Russia, and secondly in the face of its BRICS and SCO partners and what else there is...
        1. Romey
          Romey 17 November 2017 08: 53 New
          0
          They need to credit the Kremlin primarily within Russia

          They no longer need to discredit, the Kremlin itself does it better than anyone else ... Both inside and outside ...
          1. raw174
            raw174 17 November 2017 09: 28 New
            +3
            Quote: romey
            They no longer need to discredit, the Kremlin itself does it better than anyone else ... Both inside and outside ...

            Well, Putin's rating is quite large and there is no revolutionary demand in society ...
            1. Romey
              Romey 17 November 2017 10: 08 New
              +2
              This is until the TV defeats the refrigerator. So far, driving around in the ears is not bad, but when the West begins to confiscate the excessively acquired, and the regime is forced to fulfill one condition after another until the cap is completely accepted, then the ratings of the Megagiant Nano-Geopolitics will turn into sand. What happened in China at the beginning of the 20th century under similar conditions? Correctly! The revolt of the Iethuan and the country’s deriban by foreigners. How did it end? Fifty-year-old turmoil and revival of the country of the CCP. We are on the same path only without the Chinese human resource. And this is fraught with final death, and in this case no nuclear weapons will save us. Dissatisfaction with society is already growing and the process, as Misha the Sword said, has already begun.
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              2. raw174
                raw174 20 November 2017 06: 19 New
                +2
                Quote: romey
                This is until the TV defeats the refrigerator.

                We will live, we will see. In the meantime, for today, I do not see the impoverishment of the people, my friend who recently bought a good three-story mansion speaks of impoverishment of 85% ... I mean that wealthy people always muddle the water, who want to come to power through it ...
          2. Mestny
            Mestny 17 November 2017 09: 30 New
            +2
            Everything is lost?
            The main thing is to talk more about this - then it will turn out to support freedom and democracy.
            1. Romey
              Romey 17 November 2017 10: 23 New
              +1
              Not all yet. There are still hypothetical chances to survive. But for this it will be necessary to change the entire system of socio-economic relations. With the current leadership, this is fundamentally impossible.
              1. rotmistr60
                rotmistr60 17 November 2017 12: 30 New
                +5
                for this you will have to change the whole system of socio-economic relations

                When will you start? Or should you first consult with Navalny? As you decide, inform and you will be met.
                1. Romey
                  Romey 17 November 2017 14: 54 New
                  +3
                  Will we start? Yes, you yourself will do everything better for us than anyone else. The Yeltsin-Putin leadership has exhausted the Soviet resource more than fully. Okromya Ponte there is nothing behind him. From the word at all. Citizens are security guards - you are starving people (according to Papanov from “Watch out for the car”), okrom of course the oligarchy and friends of the president. Oil has fallen in price, but I still want to show off: olympiads, championships, festivals, a showy war game in Syria in order to demonstrate our coolness to the Russian inhabitant after the Ukrainian feil and distract it from all the New Russia there. So they began to rob the population of all sorts of Platonos and other liberal rubbish. And what about raising the retirement age after Putin’s election? And why should the percentage of bankruptcies of enterprises sharply increase? What do we have with deoffshorization? What about the interest rate of the Central Bank? How is it that with education and medicine that have been reformed so abruptly that teachers have no time to teach, and doctors no time to treat, you have to write to ease the hard work of clerks in ministries?
                  And by the way, you remembered Navalny there ... And, I wonder why he is still at liberty if he is absenteeism in the zone? Is it because he has influential intercessors in the AP politics department? Is it because this bastard is beneficial as a scarecrow for the average spectator of evenings with Shapiro again? Is it because the liberal course of the government and the president is practically the same as the bulk program of the economy? Guys, you are on the verge of bankruptcy, you can’t chronically succeed in doing anything sensible, and by the definition, the semicolony cannot succeed, and the main problem for us, the patriotically oriented opposition, is to seize at the time of the inevitable acute crisis, when the authorities can no longer live according to the old , trampled into the mud on the model of October 1917, the authorities are piled up until they get to it.
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      3. Curious
        Curious 17 November 2017 17: 15 New
        +2
        "A lot of scenarios can be invented if you want."
        And you can dig a volcano. After all, they dug up the Black Sea, why not dig a volcano. Huge!. And the neighbors will have to fall asleep.
    2. Yurasumy
      17 November 2017 11: 35 New
      +2
      The author of Donbass did not rule out. He does not believe that the cause will be a sharp intensification of the war. And these are different things.
    3. demo
      demo 17 November 2017 15: 18 New
      +2
      I also sort of thoughtfully go through the options in my head and I won’t have a mind.
      Ears have already frostbite. The leg was shot. The hand was chopped off.
      What is left to do?
      Hang on evil to us?

      Of course, you can undermine the sarcophagus in Chernobyl. Or break the Dnieper dam.
      But perhaps this is even cool for H. Okhlov.
      1. stas
        stas 17 November 2017 16: 49 New
        0
        The demo is that you are a sleeping terrorist. Go to a psychotherapist. Time is running out.
        You actually need to take control.
  4. raw174
    raw174 17 November 2017 07: 05 New
    +3
    I already spoke about a month and a half ago here about the escalation of the conflict by the end of the current - the beginning of next year. Still, I think that Donbas will be exactly - the most trump card in the hands of the State Department, which can shake the Kremlin’s position ...
    1. Yurasumy
      17 November 2017 11: 36 New
      0
      Just intensifying the war on the line of contact is stupid. This is a US loss and many articles have already been written about this.
      1. 75 hammer
        75 hammer 17 November 2017 14: 32 New
        0
        Especially for the author: it is impossible to consider and especially to make forecasts without taking into account the economic aspect of certain far-reaching political steps! The article is good, but it is necessary in such forecasts not to make forecasts for the future, but to consider everything as the possibilities of one or another warring party! Try to mitigate the probabilistic estimates of this or that possible event, and simply present the detached intuitive statement as a personal opinion, there will be fewer people who want to throw a stone at you and the debate around the article will be calmer! The past is past, the future is uncertain, the present is with us!
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 November 2017 07: 40 New
    0
    I can’t imagine that VNA ukroin listened, and even listened to the opinion of a certain Russian man who demanded that troops be withdrawn from the republics and tame the slaughter! sad
    1. 97110
      97110 17 November 2017 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      vna ukroine

      Did you get so upset that it seems like in Russian yet, but already in English (USA), if you order?
  6. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 17 November 2017 11: 59 New
    +2
    It’s for sure that Russia, like the USA, is just “officer” pieces on a chessboard where the game is for something more than the dominance of one country over another. World management and distribution institutions and organizations have already been created and are operating, international control and arbitration structures have been created and are functioning, a single financial system and information system are working on the Internet, etc. Thus, a world management system has already been created for which states have become just a burden that impedes globalization. . And Russia ... and that Russia-it was put in place of the "wolf" to drive the rest of the sheep into the right stall ... that's all.
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  8. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 17 November 2017 13: 02 New
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    But before the election, they will definitely notice some kind of mess. And demons will come out all over the country.
  9. koshmarik
    koshmarik 17 November 2017 14: 04 New
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    Many comments say that Ukraine will do this or that. She will not do anything - all issues in Ukraine will be decided by the United States and Russia. For example, the last negotiations on the fate of Ukraine are held between these countries without the invitation of the Ukrainian side.
  10. Gloomy
    Gloomy 17 November 2017 14: 59 New
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    I just don’t understand what is stopping Russia from arranging a maidan somewhere in Mexico. What prevented Russia from rocking the situation in Ferguson?
    I think it’s stupid to run after a pyromaniac and put out fires, it’s easier to set fire to his house, and let him run around with a bucket.
  11. Natalia777
    Natalia777 17 November 2017 15: 00 New
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    I hope that Vladimir Putin will be the President of the Russian Federation for another term. The people are waiting for this with hope. Putin's refusal to go for a second presidential term will only bring harm to the Russian Federation.
  12. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 17 November 2017 18: 14 New
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    [quote = Romey] [quote] Butting with the USA on the Ukrainian field is stupid, pointless and counterproductive. It is necessary to butt him on an American field. [/ Quote]
    What did you mean? Or about whom? And in general some kind of heresy. How is it possible? After all, there they print the sacred. wink
    [quote] As long as the USA and Britain exist in their current form, Russia will not be allowed to develop quietly. [/ quote]
    We have never had and will not have greenhouse conditions for sure, but nevertheless, in the presence of shaving and Yankees, the Russian Federation can develop if it wants to. While there is only the appearance of desire ... [/ quote]
    [quote = Romey] [quote] Butting with the USA on the Ukrainian field is stupid, pointless and counterproductive. It is necessary to butt him on an American field. [/ Quote]

    As long as the dollar exists,
    What did you mean? Or about whom? And in general some kind of heresy. How is it possible? After all, there they print the sacred. wink
    [quote] As long as the USA and Britain exist in their current form, Russia will not be allowed to develop quietly. [/ quote]
    As long as there is a dollar, Russia will not be allowed to develop.
    Only decoupling from the owners of money can change something. Although, this is how to refuse a pension for the oligarchs ....
  13. Ural resident
    Ural resident 17 November 2017 19: 44 New
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    Yes, they are preparing for the "election" - this is undeniable.
    They certainly won’t miss such an event - they have been preparing for several years.
  14. Puma
    Puma 17 November 2017 21: 20 New
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    The author, apparently, due to his origin and interest due to this, is constantly trying to present the case in such a way that Ukraine has some objective value and therefore it is necessary to fight for it. In fact, Ukraine is a bag of trouble.
    What do we have in this bag or in connection with it:
    1. Several million Russian people who are intensely made by Ukrainians with a Russophobic bias. Some of these people are actively or passively against. Part - does not understand the scale of the disaster.
    2. Russian lands, which became part of Ukraine in the amount of about 8 regions.
    3. Crimea reunited with Russia, which no Ukrainian authorities will leave alone for the foreseeable future. And the card of which any "dear partners" will try to play at any time convenient for them.
    4. A considerable number of dangerous complex technical objects, each of which are “svidomye” at any moment, can lead to a man-made disaster by malicious intent or elementary thoughtlessness.
    What would be nice to get as a result:
    1. People and land to regain. With our demography and geography, neither millions of Russians, nor fertile lands with a good climate will ever be superfluous.
    2. Stop fussing around Crimea, creating a situation where there will be no one to “return” him.
    3. Take control of a part of nuclear and other facilities. The rest will be transferred to the control of more sane players.
    Thus, an option that is ideally consistent with the national interests of Russia is either the complete disappearance of Ukraine from the map, or its compression to the size of the ethnic core. Accordingly, all actions and processes aimed at this result are correct and desirable. The reverse processes are undesirable and require counteraction. Simply put, the chaotization of Ukraine is in Russia's interests, and stabilization is in the interests of the United States.
    And what do we see in practice? Stabilization of the Poroshenko regime on both sides. And do not tell cunning tales.
    There will be no "terrible" provocations, no serious aggravation in the Donbass before our elections. It is highly likely that before the election, our authorities will not dare not to answer. But the strengthening of shelling and the increase in the number of sabotage will certainly be. Strictly within - so that people get angry, but don't jump to the consequences. But after the election they may intensely try to come to an agreement. Up to the peacekeepers on the "compromise" option.
  15. Puma
    Puma 17 November 2017 21: 24 New
    +1
    And forget about it already - they wanted to drag us into the conflict. Not even funny. We would like to draw it in. To do this, it is enough to regularly shell not Donetsk, but Armyansk. Both Ukrainians and Americans are afraid of direct conflict, like a damn incense.
  16. Pax tecum
    Pax tecum 18 November 2017 11: 30 New
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    She that workers should protect? [/ Quote]
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  18. Pax tecum
    Pax tecum 18 November 2017 11: 40 New
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    Quote: 97110
    Should she protect workers?

    The dictatorship of the working class! Ideally, the people should "protect" their power.
  19. dmitry.kashkaryow
    dmitry.kashkaryow 18 November 2017 15: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: 97110
    The Russian Federation has a purely constructive policy. The Russian Federation is not going to destroy anything. To occupy a decent place in the club in the Russian Federation and get your share in the possibility of robbing someone, like all other members - nothing more.

    You look closely at the history of Russia. Russia did not have under the fifth territories it robbed. Even the enemies of Russia recognize the fact of the civilizational mission of Russia in the zone of its influence. Where Russia came and then left, the peoples received their states absolutely freely and bloodlessly. The closest historical example: three Baltic "lions", Ukraine, Bulgaria.
  20. dmitry.kashkaryow
    dmitry.kashkaryow 18 November 2017 15: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: kepmor
    well, and about the Crimea, which the "lost" usa, you obviously bent

    In the previous comment, no errors .... The states have muddied in Ukraine to organize a boiling boiler on the European continent, stir the fire under which they were going from an air base in Crimea. There were already preparing barracks for staff building battalions. Coarse broken off and grossly offended!
    The states are falling not 300 years, but the last one and a half to two decades, when they exploded the role of "world gendarme". Their debt is twice the annual GDP and they continue at the usual pace. This cannot go on for long. They desperately need a world conflict, on which they would cash in more than the Second World War. In Europe, nothing has come out yet; Russia has not pecked at the poisoned bait. The states are now stirring up water around China.
  21. KonOnOff
    KonOnOff 21 November 2017 04: 13 New
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    One of the most convenient options for American diplomacy could be a sharp worsening of the situation in Ukraine on the eve or right after the Russian presidential election.

    And it will not necessarily be an escalation of the conflict in the Donbas. Rather, on the contrary, something can happen on Ukrainian territory that should either push the Russian authorities to intervene, or it will be a strong blow to its image.


    Just there will be an attempt to clean the DNI and LC! Troops to the demarcation line have long been pulled back, constant shelling and sorties are being carried out in order to study "holes" in the defense and shooting for future targets. The Americans ride there no longer hiding along and across under the guise of evaluating the input of the "blue helmets."

    Is everything ready. And the attack will be committed, as the "established tradition" suggests to me, precisely during the start of the Olympics. Most likely the night of the opening day in South Korea. This time Russia will be forced to answer openly, and not catch up with the "north wind". Russia, of course, will be declared an aggressor, and Ukrainian athletes will wave the Ukrainian flag in Korea, collecting applause from “dumb hamsters” (“the picture from the box” will be “correctly” presented to them). On the contrary, Russian athletes will be whistled and thrown with mineral water bottles ...

    And then there will be the election of the President of Russia ... It is clear that they cannot stop Putin’s arrival (again). But then they’ll spoil the soul of the whole Russian people and Putin’s health will definitely be spoiled ...