Media: more than half of Leopard 2 tanks are not ready for use.

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More than a half tanks type Leopard 2 Bundeswehr not ready for use, according to the publication Focus.

According to the magazine, at the moment the Bundeswehr is armed with an 244 tank of this type. However, only 95 of them are in full combat readiness. 53 are in the process of being refitted, seven are on test sites. A number of tanks can not be repaired due to lack of spare parts.



Media: more than half of Leopard 2 tanks are not ready for use.


The question of who is responsible for this catastrophe should be raised
- said the publication of the chairman of the German Bundestag Committee on Defense, member of the SPD, Wolfgang Hellmich. He noted that this is a question "of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, which is responsible for the security of the country."

In May of last year, German media reported that the Bundeswehr was temporarily forced to abandon the purchase of additional Leopard 2 tanks due to lack of budget funds.

The defense budget is so tightly compiled that it is impossible to include the cost of purchasing new equipment. It was noted that there is not enough money even to maintain the existing equipment in the proper technical condition. RIA News
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  1. +6
    16 November 2017 16: 14
    Give me money! That's all. As the Bundeswehr was not noticed in hysterics before. Does the minister exert influence?
    1. +4
      16 November 2017 16: 17
      Quote: 210ox
      Give me money!
      If they find the money, don't worry. I think that Hitler’s generals, before the start of World War II, also cried for a lack of funds.
      1. +13
        16 November 2017 16: 28
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        I think that the Hitlerite generals before the start of World War II also cried about the lack of funds.

        When the Minister of Defense Gynecologist, is not Army, this is a women's consultation. laughing
        1. +5
          16 November 2017 16: 31
          Quote: Evdokim
          When the Minister of Defense is a gynecologist, this is not the Army, this is a women's consultation.
          When you have the largest economy in Europe, the Minister of Defense can be at least a gynecologist, at least a proctologist. "Everything is fine - there is money"
          1. 0
            16 November 2017 16: 55
            Yes, to this economy ... God forbid, Hitler's tank generals - uuuuuuuu what would be ...
            1. +9
              16 November 2017 18: 13
              Quote: Nathanael
              Yes, to this economy ... God forbid, Hitler's tank generals - uuuuuuuu what would be ...


              The USA strictly observes and will not allow, therefore, it does not allow rapprochement with Russia either.
          2. +5
            16 November 2017 17: 03
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            When you have the largest economy in Europe, the Minister of Defense can be at least a gynecologist, at least a proctologist. "Everything is fine - there is money"

            Well, the Bundeswehr has been allocated money since 2014. So what? And nothing - the percentage of combat-ready vehicles did not grow much from year to year. Moreover, there are problems not only with old models, but also with new ones. Clinical case - A-400M - only 1 combat ready vehicle.
            As the experience of the Frau gynecologist has shown, not the money itself is important, but its distribution. Frau, the minister threw all her strength into the most profitable sector from the point of PR - social and cultural life. As a result, everything is good with her image, and the state of technology in the Bundeswehr is deplorable.
            At the end of last year:
            Transport helicopter SN-53 in service 18 of 42 (in 2014 7 of 16)
            Tornado combat aircraft in service 28 of 74 (in 2014 36 of 66)
            Eurofighter combat aircraft in the ranks 41 of 79 (in 2014 8 of 42) - here there is growth
            Patriot air defense system in formation 6 out of 10 (in 2014 7 out of 12)
            Leopard 2 main battle tank in line 132 of 167 (in 2014 - 232 of 232)
            Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzer in the ranks 41 of 61 (in 2014 - 76 of 76)
            BMP SPz Puma in the ranks 23 of 48 (in 2014 - no)
            BTR GTK Boxer in the ranks 102 of 142 (in 2014 - 70 of 70)
            KHS Tiger attack helicopter in formation 12 out of 27 (in 2014 - 10 out of 10)
            Transport and combat helicopter NH-90 in the ranks of 9 out of 29 (in 2014 - 2 out of 8)
            Submarines 212 A in the ranks 2 of 4 (in 2014 - 1 of 1)
            Frigates in service 7 of 7 (in 2014 - 7 of 8)
            Corvettes K 130 in the ranks 3 of 4 (in 2014 - 2 of 2)
            Helicopter Mk 88 Sea Lynx in formation 5 of 18 (in 2014 - 0 of 18)
            Helicopter Mk 41 Sea King in formation 4 of 14 (in 2014 - 3 of 15)
            © bmpd
            1. +4
              16 November 2017 18: 53
              Quote: Alexey RA
              The Frau Minister threw all her strength into the most profitable sector from the point of PR - social and cultural life. As a result, everything is good with her image, and the state of technology in the Bundeswehr is deplorable.

              they’ve got a scandal there about the fascists in the army ... it’s too bad with the image !!! wink Yes laughing laughing laughing
            2. +2
              16 November 2017 22: 23
              Quote: Alexey RA
              . As a result, everything is fine with the image, and the state of technology in the Bundeswehr

              I was pleased with the little infoy, it is chopped into a varmachine, so there the coolest tank was the Italian Arieta, now they added tanks and the coolest tank is the T-90, then Abrams, then Leclerc ...
              Foreign creators of the game, considered that the T-90 is a cool tank and along the way after Syria.
            3. +1
              17 November 2017 09: 03
              As a result, everything is fine with the image.

              And what about her image? Does it somehow relate especially to Germany? What was the PR campaign? The question is without complaints, it’s really interesting if you know more than the media reaches us
          3. +1
            16 November 2017 18: 31
            When you have the largest economy in Europe, the Minister of Defense can be at least a gynecologist, at least a proctologist. "Everything is fine - there is money"


            yeah. therefore, new ones are not purchased, but with those supplied to the troops

            that there are not enough funds even to maintain the existing equipment in proper technical condition


            but I feel you would have had a different comment, if there was news about our tank building in this vein.

          4. +2
            16 November 2017 18: 52
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            "Everything is fine - there is money"

            what what what did not try to read article ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          5. +4
            16 November 2017 19: 05
            In 1990, there were probably> 3000 tanks in Germany.
            Germany produced approximately 2016 million passenger cars in 5,8. even a little truck, bus, etc.
            How long does it take for Germany to return to 1990 in terms of the number of tanks?
            1. 0
              16 November 2017 20: 32
              Quote: vlad_vlad
              How long does it take for Germany to return to 1990 in terms of the number of tanks?

              A lot of time.
            2. +2
              16 November 2017 21: 41
              Quote: vlad_vlad

              How long does it take for Germany to return to 1990 in terms of the number of tanks?

              a couple of hours, just stop fulfilling foreign orders, throwing the liberated forces over to our products.
            3. +1
              17 November 2017 01: 59
              Quote: vlad_vlad
              How long does it take for Germany to return to 1990 in terms of the number of tanks?

              How many nuclear missiles do you need to nullify ANY number of German tanks?
        2. +3
          16 November 2017 16: 56
          Quote: Evdokim
          When the Minister of Defense is a gynecologist, this is not the Army, this is a women's consultation.

          In the EU, half of these ladies ..
          1. +5
            16 November 2017 17: 02
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Evdokim
            When the Minister of Defense is a gynecologist, this is not the Army, this is a women's consultation.

            In the EU, half of these ladies ..



            And what kind of military background / education does the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation have? ... or is it enough to put on a cap to immediately get into the Suvorovs?
            1. +1
              16 November 2017 17: 11
              Now Iranian Defense Minister Amir Khatami. Always fought! All my adult life. Here's Shoigu - I don't remember ...
            2. +13
              16 November 2017 17: 20
              Quote: Town Hall
              And what kind of military background / education does the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation have? ... or is it enough to put on a cap to immediately get into the Suvorovs?

              Dear, Shoigu has headed an organization such as the Emergencies Ministry for almost 20 years, which is a semi-military force.
              Attach a cap and command the forces of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and I will see what you are standing with your cheap ambition, which costs three copecks on a market day.
              Demining, removal and cover of the wounded from places where there are armed operations, cover for humanitarian supplies ...
              By the way, did it get worse in the Russian army with the arrival of Shoigu?
              1. +3
                16 November 2017 18: 40
                It didn’t get any worse. But the base of the Ministry of Emergency Situations - Chkalovsky airfield For 20 years, the "evil tongues" sound like a place of smuggling.
                1. 0
                  16 November 2017 22: 55
                  What would you know, the aviation base of the Ministry of Emergencies is actually located in Zhukovsky.
            3. +1
              16 November 2017 17: 25
              Google to help. See WHAT he was and what kind of education. In any case, not a gynecologist, and not even Aibolit. He built and saved people.
              Quote: Town Hall
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: Evdokim
              When the Minister of Defense is a gynecologist, this is not the Army, this is a women's consultation.

              In the EU, half of these ladies ..



              And what kind of military background / education does the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation have? ... or is it enough to put on a cap to immediately get into the Suvorovs?
              1. +2
                16 November 2017 17: 43
                Quote: 210ox
                Google to help. See WHAT he was and what kind of education. In any case, not a gynecologist, and not even Aibolit. He built and saved people.



                That is, you agree that in order to be a good defense minister, it is not necessary to be a professional military man? ... a builder and a fireman can become one ... and a doctor. If you were a good person ... by the way. He was a good Ministry of Emergencies Nikom. And he really education "Ministry of Emergencies" -noe? ..... I do not remember exactly already.


                Or is such universality possible only in Russia but not in other countries?
                1. +1
                  16 November 2017 17: 57
                  Civil Protection Academy and General Staff courses Wouldn't you have enough to get a military education?
                  Quote: Town Hall
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Google to help. See WHAT he was and what kind of education. In any case, not a gynecologist, and not even Aibolit. He built and saved people.



                  That is, you agree that in order to be a good defense minister, it is not necessary to be a professional military man? ... a builder and a fireman can become one ... and a doctor. If you were a good person ... by the way. He was a good Ministry of Emergencies Nikom. And he really education "Ministry of Emergencies" -noe? ..... I do not remember exactly already.


                  Or is such universality possible only in Russia but not in other countries?
                  1. +3
                    16 November 2017 18: 22
                    Quote: 210ox
                    Civil Protection Academy and General Staff courses Wouldn't you have enough to get a military education?



                    Well, how to say. There were times when there were enough accelerated cavalry courses for this.


                    If you carefully study the topic, you will see that in the world the post of defense minister is usually held by "civilians" or at most retired military. Do you think so in vain?. A minister, even of defense, is a political position.

                    By the way, Grachev was a professional military man, but a very bad minister ...
                2. +3
                  16 November 2017 18: 33
                  That is, do you agree that in order to be a good minister of defense, you do not have to be a professional military man?


                  G - Grachev. Wonder Minister. You yourself answered your own question in the last sentence.

                  Everyone looked at his professionalism. The land of grief drank and buried many of its sons.

                  With Shoigu, exactly the opposite. The country is proud of the military, the military is neat, dressed, shod, with good pay and motivation. And he lived with resolved issues.





                3. 0
                  18 November 2017 01: 09
                  You, as I understand it, are not of this world, since you write such nonsense. Liberal .... in one word! A woman minister of war is the same as selling "gaskets" to them in a pharmacy, and not to command the army .... Themselves, then at least served as monsieur? Of course you are a thinker from God!
            4. 0
              17 November 2017 01: 18
              And the Minister of Defense does not need, by and large, military education. For planning operations, the General Staff is in place, and the task of the ministry is to provide MTS and mob resources for these operations.
      2. +4
        16 November 2017 17: 09
        however, one has only to wonder how they famously restored the equipment, if the battlefield remained behind them, and the evacuation was at the level, did they really forget how to do this?))
    2. +11
      16 November 2017 16: 34
      More than half of the Leopard 2 tanks of the Bundeswehr are not ready for operation,
      what kind of tanks is and funding request
      1. +2
        16 November 2017 16: 45
        Wow !!! There are few tanks in Europe ... I think clearly, they squealed about the aggression after the West-2017. The Russian tanks remained, but the Germans had ... dumb gold reserves ???? Those who want to "praise the American army" .... to me in a personal, I will answer from the bottom of my heart ...
        1. jjj
          +2
          16 November 2017 17: 23
          Is something like that pouring on Vaterland? Not bad for bad. Apparently the Germans are preparing the world ahead of time for the fact that they won’t go to war, they say there’s nothing to fight
          1. 0
            16 November 2017 18: 03
            Quote: jjj
            Apparently the Germans are preparing the world ahead of time for the fact that they will not go to war, they say there is nothing to fight


            Fuck fighting when beer is sea. Let them come and drink beer.
        2. +5
          16 November 2017 17: 51
          Quote: Cutter
          Wow !!! There are few tanks in Europe.

          so striped their tanks are driven there and driven, and the German ones probably need to be destroyed so that the American ones would buy
    3. +1
      16 November 2017 17: 54
      Quote: 210ox
      .Kak that before the Bundeswehr was not seen in hysterics.


      Good evening.
      Previously, and even now, the Bundeswehr is completely subordinate to the NATO command. But lately, the question of creating a unified European army with their own command, independent of NATO (read, independent of the United States), has been raised louder by Germany and France. If this happens, then NATO is blown away (which the "Young Europeans", who receive free weapons and bonuses for bases, training grounds and the deployment of units from NATO, are in full opposition to), and Germany and its competing France become the main ones in the EU space (Macron even puts France number 1). Not a word about the role of the "Englishwoman", and this is understandable - the Britons are in the wake of the United States. Here is the alignment, Maxim.
      1. +1
        16 November 2017 18: 17
        Quote: Lelek
        But recently, the question of creating a unified European army with their own command, independent of NATO (read, independent of the United States), has been raised louder by Germany and France.

        They agreed on this in Brisbane. When Putin allegedly wanted to talk with Merkel for an hour. But then, like the devil from the snuff box, Juncker "drew". And for some reason the negotiations dragged on for three hours.
        1. +1
          16 November 2017 18: 25
          Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
          They agreed on this in Brisbane.


          Hey. We have the results of these negotiations = 0. You are closer there and should know more. Yes
      2. 0
        16 November 2017 21: 28
        In Europe, before the creation of a common army as far as Mars on foot! For what pennies will they complete?
  2. +2
    16 November 2017 16: 18
    Along the way, pragmatic Germans understand that there will be no war with the Russians, so why throw extra money to cut them to the military, if the hegemon already insists on larger contributions from NATO members. Plus, there was news that after England left the EU, Germany will have to contribute more money to the European budget.
    1. +1
      16 November 2017 16: 32
      All the money goes like refugees. Not enough for defense
    2. +1
      16 November 2017 18: 04
      Quote: Fayter2017
      Germany will have to contribute more money to the European budget.


      It is for this reason that the EU, where the main "donor" is Germany, is cutting subsidies to "leeches" (the Baltic states and eastern "Young Europeans"). The snot is already in tanks. Yes
  3. 0
    16 November 2017 16: 26
    70 years of occupation are not in vain
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  5. 0
    16 November 2017 16: 36
    They had about the same combat readiness and aviation.
  6. 0
    16 November 2017 16: 39
    "The question must be raised as to who is responsible for this disaster."
    Like who? The hand of the Kremlin and Putin are personally responsible for this!))
  7. +1
    16 November 2017 16: 40
    Because of the minister of gynecology, the German defense industry was covered with a place that gynecologists treat :)
  8. +1
    16 November 2017 16: 45
    In the course of theirs, the Minister of Defense covered the entire German army with her charisma with the letter P. sad
  9. +9
    16 November 2017 16: 51
    Defense budget is so tight


    So tight or wrong? , honestly sorry for the Germans, the United States brought them to the handle.
    1. +2
      16 November 2017 18: 21
      Quote: Going
      honestly sorry for the Germans, the United States brought them to the handle.


      Hey. You tell this to our former neighbors in a communal apartment called the USSR. They, nevertheless, broke a coward in an effort to call themselves "members" of the EU (too many "members" for one tit). Those who stuck there earlier already grumble displeasedly and put forward their "Wishlist" (but not to write in SPORTLOTO). Already, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan are rubbing skis with ointment. And Armenia tries to sit on two chairs. But the disappointment will be bitter, the loss of connection with Russia will be painful, and the return will be impossible. You should look at the former Ukraine.
  10. +2
    16 November 2017 16: 51
    The age-old Russian question Who is to blame is in the German interpretation. Well, the gynecologists are stables .... Poor Guderian Goth and other tank generals of the Wehrmacht .. Well, at least they did not survive
  11. +1
    16 November 2017 16: 53
    Good car! And for the Germans, if there is no first-aid kit, then it is unusable ...
  12. 0
    16 November 2017 17: 03
    and the thought that the crappy EU policy and the Yankee policy are to blame for this still does not occur to the burghers ...
  13. 0
    16 November 2017 17: 04
    Media: more than half of Leopard 2 tanks are not ready for use.
    They exploit their wife or mother-in-law!
    On tanks, they quietly fight in the interests of the state or, in extreme cases, perform the assigned task, but here it is possible and loud.
  14. +1
    16 November 2017 17: 37
    If we recall fascist Germany, then despite the sanctions after the First World War, they pretty quickly transferred the industry to military tracks .. So let them not pretend to be peace-loving!
    1. 0
      16 November 2017 18: 14
      But then at least they were Germans, but now they are only queers. And in the factories of the Ruhr there are only Turks ...
      1. 0
        16 November 2017 18: 34
        Quote: rruvim
        But then at least they were Germans, but now they are only queers. And in the factories of the Ruhr there are only Turks ...

        Well, God forbid, so that it continues ... otherwise Berlin will have to be taken again ... heh heh
      2. +2
        16 November 2017 21: 54
        Quote: rruvim
        But then at least they were Germans, but now they are only queers. And in the factories of the Ruhr there are only Turks ...

        at the necessary enterprises the Turks only clean toilets. wink
  15. 0
    16 November 2017 18: 31
    Baba the Minister of Defense decides everything! :-)
  16. +2
    16 November 2017 23: 28
    In the Bundeswehr, for a long time already, a good half of combat aircraft and helicopters have not been combat-ready, and no one is particularly scratched about this. While the USSR existed and the Warsaw Pact, the Bundeswehr was much more combat-ready.
  17. +2
    16 November 2017 23: 30
    Quote: Political Department-M
    If we recall fascist Germany, then despite the sanctions after the First World War, they pretty quickly transferred the industry to military tracks .. So let them not pretend to be peace-loving!


    This is fast in the second half of 1943, when it became clear that Germany was losing the war both in the east and in the west.
  18. +1
    17 November 2017 02: 42
    In May last year, German media reported that the Bundeswehr was temporarily forced to abandon the purchase of additional Leopard 2 tanks due to a lack of budgetary funds.
    Do the Germans care about tanks, when the igils who have escaped from Syria have to put on European rations, do you understand tolerance ...
  19. 0
    17 November 2017 07: 00
    poor, beggar Germans ... I feel so sorry for them crying
    but in general: "there is no money, but you hold on" ©
  20. +1
    17 November 2017 07: 04
    Why do they need more? They have enough. If the current situation demands, then it will be quickly corrected, no doubt. Well these are the Germans!
  21. +1
    17 November 2017 08: 03
    They are becoming impoverished again, like the United States ... Everybody is doing to justify the military budget increase ...
    No country in the world has 100% ready-to-use military equipment, something is constantly being repaired, something is broken, and there are always no spare parts ... When we served in Chechnya under a contract, we also repaired spare parts at our own expense and equipment bought ...
  22. +1
    17 November 2017 08: 29
    Where is the hype? Where are the screams about corruption and sabotage?
  23. 0
    17 November 2017 20: 30
    And with whom are the Teutons going to fight again? Another Drang nach Osten? So we have 65 thousand tanks on storage, we can take it off, if anything ..
    1. 0
      18 November 2017 01: 12
      If all the armor is removed from conservation and deafened, it is not necessary. They will scream that Russia is going to attack again