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Turchinov: Transferring the celebration of Christmas on December 25 we get rid of Moscow calendars

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Secretary of the Ukrainian Council of National Security and Defense Oleksandr Turchynov once again spoke about the chosen path of Ukraine. According to Turchinov, the transfer of the day off from January 7 to December 25, together with the postponement of the celebration of Orthodox Christmas, is “an important event for Ukraine.” The press service of the NSDC cites Turchinov’s statement, which has not yet left the composition of one of the destructive sects:
Ukraine breaks away from Moscow calendars and Russian imperial standards. Now Ukraine will celebrate Christmas with the entire civilized world, according to the calendar by which we live. This is an important worldview historical a solution that will strengthen the European integration position of Ukraine.



Turchinov himself recalls that he took the initiative to postpone the celebration of the celebration in the country of the Nativity of Christ from January 7 to December 25 in the year 2015.

Turchinov: Transferring the celebration of Christmas on December 25 we get rid of Moscow calendars


It is noteworthy that the Ukrainian Security Council considers it necessary to pay attention even to the transfer of holidays that have a confessional color. This is clear evidence that the Ukrainian Maidan authorities intervene not only in the political, but also in the confessional space of Ukraine. Apparently, the next stage will be attempts to force Orthodox Ukrainians of the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate to celebrate Christmas according to Catholic canons.

In fact, Ukraine faces an attempt to convert the bulk of the population to a different faith with the clear desire of the curators of Kiev to alienate the people from traditional Orthodoxy.
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  1. Warrior with machine gun
    Warrior with machine gun 16 November 2017 15: 34
    17
    God forbid, Ukraine will get rid of such degenerate fanatics as Turchinov !!!
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 16 November 2017 15: 36
      +7
      The interesting thing is that anyway the time will come when everyone will return to the original ...
      1. Going
        Going 16 November 2017 15: 47
        17
        In fact, Ukraine faces an attempt to convert the bulk of the population to a different faith with the clear desire of the curators of Kiev to alienate the people from traditional Orthodoxy.


        It is really very serious and the hand of the curator is felt, according to systematic work, to break our peoples.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 16 November 2017 15: 58
          +6
          Let the curator in his USA establish order in the faiths. Or is everything "decorum and noble" there? negative
          1. Going
            Going 16 November 2017 16: 09
            +9
            Yes, they’ll break their leg there, a lot of Baptists of all stripes, some of which are Mormons.
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 16 November 2017 16: 26
              +4
              The pastor measures the nano-pan in the photo smile
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 16 November 2017 16: 33
                0
                Going
                Yes, they’ll break their leg there, a lot of Baptists of all stripes, some of which are Mormons.
                However, the "Blood Pastor" Turchinov in Ukraine in the United States on a particularly trusting account!

                The executioner of Donbass is a bloody pastor Turchinov, without a mask. Posted: 16 Apr 2015
                1. Going
                  Going 16 November 2017 16: 41
                  +9
                  Nothing will come, and the smile from his face will disappear.
                  1. comprochikos
                    comprochikos 16 November 2017 16: 49
                    +4
                    The land of freaks gives birth belay So it’s necessary to transfer the New Year, even if they live on their own calendar in their fictional parallel world
                    1. Going
                      Going 16 November 2017 16: 54
                      +8
                      They will cancel it altogether. lol
                      1. Vladimir16
                        Vladimir16 16 November 2017 22: 34
                        +3
                        First, Peter Romanov got rid of the Russian calendar. Then Lenin got rid of the Russian calendar. Now Turchinov gets rid of the Russian calendar.
                        All these deliverers wanted to become Europeans, as a result, they died, and the Russian calendar exists.
                        Thank God!
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            3. Orionvit
              Orionvit 16 November 2017 20: 01
              +2
              Quote: Going
              a lot of Baptists of all stripes, some of which are Mormons.

              Mormons are not Christians at all, and they did not stand nearby.
            4. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 16 November 2017 23: 08
              +1
              Quote: Going
              Yes, they’ll break their leg there, a lot of Baptists of all stripes, some of which are Mormons.

              Catholics 12% of the total number of inhabitants, but nevertheless they stubbornly impose their will on the majority of the population of the Ukaine, both in the field of language and in the field of religion. This will not continue indefinitely and most likely will end with the majority taking up the pitchfork.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 17 November 2017 08: 14
                0
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                that the majority will take up the pitchfork.

                not necessarily, Catholics (Poles) for a long time ate ukrov as they wanted, but no one especially took up the pitchfork
                the question is not how many people are in percentage terms, but where are active people
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 16 November 2017 16: 00
          +3
          Ukraine faces the conversion of the majority of the population to a different faith with the clear desire of the curators of Kiev from traditional Orthodoxy.
          Well, why only with an attempt to tear people away from traditional Orthodoxy?
          The "bloody pastor" of Ukraine Turchinov generally does everything to tear off the Russian people from Russian civilization!
        3. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 16 November 2017 22: 17
          0
          not ours, but OUR people ...
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 17 November 2017 08: 28
        0
        the division into Ukrainian and Russian peoples is very difficult. the language used and the culture itself are almost identical. therefore, actions such as "getting rid of the Moscow calendar" look naive.

        I myself am from Nikolaev, but I must admit that although we were telling jokes about
        “Muscovites” when he was in Russia could not notice serious cultural differences.
        I personally would like to hear from Moscow a vision of the future, a plan integrating the “Russians” and “Ukrainians”. projection of the future for two fraternal peoples.
        perhaps such a plan, if put into practice, will become more attractive for Ukrainians than the machinations of Western countries.
        ps I would also like to see less here words like "banderlogs" and "ukrofashisti" etc.

        The Ukrainian people are now misled, but the Russians should not forget that closer than there are no Ukrainians.
        abusive vocabulary between Russians and Ukrainians in the joy of those who brewed this porridge from behind the curtains.
    2. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 16 November 2017 15: 41
      +8
      Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
      God forbid, Ukraine will get rid of such degenerate fanatics as Turchinov !!!

      this is not one person - this is an epidemic request
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 16 November 2017 15: 44
        +4
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
        God forbid, Ukraine will get rid of such degenerate fanatics as Turchinov !!!

        this is not one person - this is an epidemic request

        and besides for the whole pan hi
    3. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 16 November 2017 15: 50
      +6
      Turchinov: Transferring the celebration of Christmas on December 25 we get rid of Moscow calendars

      By the way, this "new", in fact, is nothing but the well-forgotten old:

      It should be noted separately that this "creativity" refers to the pre-war 2011 ...

      Link to the entire calendar: http://chornogora.livejournal.com/850551.html
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 16 November 2017 20: 15
        +1
        Ukraine will celebrate Christmas with the whole civilized world, according to the calendar on which we live.
        Firstly, I would like to know what is “civilized world” in their concept? However, it is clear here. And for example, Japan, or China? Which, in their traditions, live generally according to their calendars, with their new years, their "saints" and so on, and they wanted to spit on all Christian traditions combined.
        Turchinov: Transferring the celebration of Christmas on December 25 we get rid of Moscow calendars
        This statement, in general, touches with its dullness. If Pan Turchynov still does not know, then the whole so-called "civilized world", to which he ranks Ukraine as well (though it’s not clear why), lives on one Gregorian calendar. Holidays are different for everyone, but this does not apply to the calendar. They don’t like the “Moscow” calendar (one to one like the American one), even if they switch to the Mayan calendar, or lunar Arabic, then for sure it will not be like in Moscow. laughing
    4. stolz
      stolz 16 November 2017 16: 09
      +2
      Who about what, and lousy everything about the bath.
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 16 November 2017 16: 20
      12
      Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
      God forbid, Ukraine will get rid of such degenerate fanatics as Turchinov !!!

      And from one more tool.
    6. antivirus
      antivirus 16 November 2017 21: 09
      0
      3 weeks zrobitschane will drive the bald -1 week before and 10 days after NG
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    1. Neserg
      Neserg 16 November 2017 15: 37
      +1
      Good afternoon.
      Perhaps such a time will come.
      As history shows, much is repeated.
  3. 210ox
    210ox 16 November 2017 15: 35
    +2
    You don’t like everything that is connected with the Russians and the Soviet. You live next to us. Do not you think to dump the planet Earth? You can take a closer look. At the cemetery.
    1. pjastolov
      pjastolov 16 November 2017 15: 48
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      You do not like everything that is connected with Russian and Soviet.

      I don’t understand, the church then? After all, the church calendar, as far as I think, is considered by the lunar month?
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 16 November 2017 15: 59
        +4
        Quote: pjastolov
        I don’t understand, the church then? After all, the church calendar, as far as I think, is considered by the lunar month?

        Yes, they simply switch to the Julian calendar adopted in Catholicism ...
        Spit on the faith of their ancestors ...
        1. pjastolov
          pjastolov 16 November 2017 16: 11
          +4
          so he doesn’t fit in with the lunar system, and therefore the easter floats hi
          1. Going
            Going 16 November 2017 16: 58
            10
            So, according to it, only Easter is determined, all other holidays have a fixed date according to the secular calendar.
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 39
          +1
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Yes, they will simply switch to the Julian calendar adopted in Catholicism ... Spit on the faith of their ancestors ...

          The Julian calendar (more archaic) is just at the ROC. Other Orthodox churches, like Catholics, celebrate according to a more accurate Gregorian calendar.
          Teach materiel laughing
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 17 November 2017 08: 29
            0
            Quote: Normal ok
            Teach materiel

            yes really learn the Julian calendar more precisely

            "The old style is convenient, simple and not spoiled by false science under the influence of politics. The old style is used in the Church and in astronomy, where accurate calculations are required. The Julian period, or Julian days, is still used by astronomers (and not Gregorian at all), because when "infallible" Pope Gregory (in 1582), introducing a new calendar, banned the old calendar (Julian), then the next year this old style was revived in astronomy under the name of the Julian period, or Julian days. "
            http://www.tropinka.orthodoxy.ru/kalendar/pocemu_
            u.htm
            1. Mimoprohodil
              Mimoprohodil 17 November 2017 11: 19
              +1
              Have you heard of the New Julian calendar? Does it coincide with the Gregorian calendar?
              The New Julian calendar was formally introduced by Patriarch Tikhon for use in the Patriarchal Church on October 15, 1923 - the Renovationists switched to it even earlier. However, this innovation, although it was adopted by almost all Moscow parishes, in general caused disagreement in the church, therefore, already on November 8, 1923, Patriarch Tikhon ordered "to temporarily postpone the widespread and mandatory introduction of a new style in church use." Thus, the new style only lasted 24 days in the Russian Orthodox Church.
      2. a housewife
        a housewife 17 November 2017 01: 54
        +1
        On the sunny. According to the lunar, Easter and the holidays associated with it are considered.
    2. win
      win 16 November 2017 15: 54
      +2
      Do not think to dump the planet Earth? You can take a closer look.At the cemetery.


      To commemorate the Catholic Nativity of Christ, Russia has successfully experienced
      missile system "Satan 2 " (RS-28 "Sarmat")! am
  4. win
    win 16 November 2017 15: 37
    +4
    - Why the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate is moving to the accepted in everything
    World Julian calendar?
    - Because then in Ukraine they will also celebrate Old Christmas,
    how to celebrate the "Old New Year" !!! drinks
    1. 210ox
      210ox 16 November 2017 15: 51
      +2
      It is very doubtful if the zombies of the last twenty-five years have corroded everything normal from people, then what about those who come after? I already wrote about my fellow students who were there by distribution. They became real Svidomites. And they are already under sixty years old.
      Quote: Siegen
      - Why the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate is moving to the accepted in everything
      World Julian calendar?
      - Because then in Ukraine they will also celebrate Old Christmas,
      how to celebrate the "Old New Year" !!! drinks
    2. fa2998
      fa2998 16 November 2017 16: 44
      +1
      The Church of the Moscow Patriarch will celebrate with Moscow on January 7, these signs on them do not matter! The only thing the authorities can do is to make a holiday weekend, and on the old holiday, a working day. Every weekend is harmful to production, they will drink in the new and the old (at work). drinks hi
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 36
      0
      Quote: Siegen
      - Why the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate is moving to the accepted in everything
      World Julian calendar?
      - Because then in Ukraine they will also celebrate Old Christmas,
      how to celebrate the "Old New Year" !!! drinks

      Not a single adequate proposal. The UOC-KP and so on the Julian calendar as well as the UOC-MP. Nobody goes anywhere.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 November 2017 08: 31
      +1
      Quote: Siegen
      Why the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate is moving to the accepted in everything
      World Julian calendar?

      What are you about?!
      in fact, everything is exactly the opposite
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto 16 November 2017 15: 40
    +1
    Get rid of DneproGES already ... it is thoroughly communist, and we'll see how you heal ..)

    that is, there is still no heating in half of Kiev, it doesn’t excite them, well, it’s necessary to come up with a ban on something, .. necessarily.
  6. rruvim
    rruvim 16 November 2017 15: 44
    0
    Here they "pierced." You can not drive the Orthodox Outskirts under the Catholics. Ukrainians can understand about the “dug up scarlet sea”, but they will never go under the calendar of Catholics. Uniates do not count ... Turchinov, as always screwed up.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 16 November 2017 19: 27
      +3
      Quote: rruvim
      Here they "pierced." You can not drive the Orthodox Outskirts under the Catholics. Ukrainians can understand about the “dug up scarlet sea”, but they will never go under the calendar of Catholics.

      what what what you underestimate the hatred of Ukrainians !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  7. 23424636
    23424636 16 November 2017 15: 46
    +3
    this foster man of quiet Judah Tigipko with the seal of Tymoshenko’s vagina on his forehead, who killed more than one hundred civilians only in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, until he passed the bloody baton to another Chalde Waltzman and received from the sharp tongue of his fellow countryman Filatov chased - The bloody pastor deserves only an answer for climbed onto the bell tower from which there is no descent.
  8. K-50
    K-50 16 November 2017 15: 48
    +3
    The point is not the "Moscow" calendar or not. the calendar of the celebration of Christmas generally refers to the church. And to transfer this celebration to a Catholic day, it does not give a damn about 90% of Orthodox parishioners. But it is probably all a matter of the fact that Turchinov is a Catholic papist and celebrates the scrap of the Orthodox canon, and in order not to be bored, he decided to force the whole country to celebrate with the Catholics.
  9. win
    win 16 November 2017 15: 48
    +4
    - Father, today, for many, Christmas is just a reason to drink.
    - Nothing, my son, to drink for Christ is a good reason drinks
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 16 November 2017 16: 05
    0
    Heh ... I’m setting a plan for this wise guy: get rid of the Soviet gas transportation system, Soviet weapons, Soviet nuclear power plants, Soviet factories, ports, and other enterprises, Soviet ships (almost done, well done!) And further down the list, where there is a stamp “Made in the USSR” or “Made in Russia”.
    I wonder how long after this this power lasts - two days?
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 16 November 2017 16: 07
      +2
      it’s not power, and so, vremezhiki ... crap before surrendering the outskirts of Russia
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 16 November 2017 16: 12
        0
        Yes, I had to take the word in brackets.
  11. 1536
    1536 16 November 2017 16: 05
    +1
    The persecution of the Orthodox Church reached its peak. It remains to legally force all citizens of Ukraine to accept Catholicism.
  12. Govorun
    Govorun 16 November 2017 16: 06
    +1
    Turchinov: By postponing the celebration of Christmas on December 25, we are getting rid of Moscow calendars.
    I suggest that Turchinov simply shoot himself while supporting the action of the decommunization of Ukraine, as born in the USSR.
  13. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 16 November 2017 16: 06
    +1
    transferring the pastor's carcass to the cattle cemetery, the outskirts will get rid of a certain share of problems
  14. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 16 November 2017 16: 08
    0
    Quote: rruvim
    ... but they will never go under the Catholic calendar.

    Where are they going? They say they’ll cross over.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 16 November 2017 16: 15
      0
      No, not that mentality. The West has long celebrated Catholic Christmas, and the center and south are only Orthodox. It's in the blood, you can’t change. Even Gunpowder will go to the Temple that day. And the whole so-called opposition. Now, as never before, Ukrainians are not with the Vatican, but also with the Russian Orthodox Church MP. They want their autocephaly, and clearly under the Ecumenical Patriarchate. So that Turchinov simply “drives”.
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  16. afrikanez
    afrikanez 16 November 2017 16: 11
    +1
    “They” do not tear themselves away from the “Moscow calendars”, but abandon their religion and roots. Interestingly, for a long time will people endure such "Turchaks"?
  17. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 November 2017 16: 14
    +1
    along with the transfer of the celebration of the Orthodox Christmas
    f what relation does this chuvirl have to Orthodoxy

    is a parishioner of the Church of Peace, Love and Unity, relating to the unification of the Word of Life churches
    The Word of Life (Swedish: Livets Ord) is a religious community belonging to the Faith Movement group, also an international association of local Pentecostal communities. In the confessional field, the Word of Life is positioned as a Protestant movement of a moderate charismatic orientation, as well as a non-Pentecostal movement. Turchinov was baptized in the Word of Life Church in 1999. Here he carries out deaconial ministry and preaching.

    it is the same if the Orthodox transfer Uraza Bayram to another day
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 16 November 2017 16: 18
      0
      Well, it’s well known that Turchinov is a Pentecostal sectarian, and therefore carries nonsense ...
  18. Sergey53
    Sergey53 16 November 2017 16: 18
    +1
    Still, you would get rid of those lands that you got from the Soviet government, from those factories that the Soviet government built for you. And much more. You either sold these plants or sold them to foreigners. YOU EVEN managed to sell your native land. I mean black soil. So who are you ???
  19. Mazandaran
    Mazandaran 16 November 2017 16: 25
    +1
    Where do the pseudo-leaders of the Rohulyatiks lead? It’s not shaky for the mind, they are forcibly converted from the Orthodox into Catholics, so that in the future they can unite with Poland !!!
  20. Altona
    Altona 16 November 2017 16: 33
    0
    The pastorization and tourization of Ukraine continues.
  21. gorgo
    gorgo 16 November 2017 16: 39
    +1
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: pjastolov
    I don’t understand, the church then? After all, the church calendar, as far as I think, is considered by the lunar month?

    Yes, they simply switch to the Julian calendar adopted in Catholicism ...
    Spit on the faith of their ancestors ...

    Catholicism adopted just the Gregorian calendar ... As in the entire secular world. The Orthodox Church lives according to Julian (from Julius Caesar).
    1. Mazandaran
      Mazandaran 16 November 2017 16: 45
      0
      Rohulyatik, but tell me, what does the calendar have to the USSR? As far as I remember, the commies’s attitude to believers was terrible?! So why do your ZRADA clowns allegedly name the reason because of de-Sovietization ....?!
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 32
      0
      Quote: gorgo
      Catholicism adopted just the Gregorian calendar ... As in the entire secular world. The Orthodox Church lives according to Julian (from Julius Caesar).

      Most Orthodox churches in the world live just according to the Gregorian calendar. Julian remained only in the Russian Orthodox Church.
  22. fa2998
    fa2998 16 November 2017 17: 05
    0
    I suggest that the Kiev authorities finally abandoned the communist legacy, to return the lands that bloody Stalin had taken from the democratic Europeans before WWII. Return the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians. I think the EU will appreciate it, maybe a loan will be thrown! lol hi
  23. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 16 November 2017 17: 10
    0
    Turchinov: Transferring the celebration of Christmas on December 25 we get rid of Moscow calendars
    So Moscow will do everything pleasant and postpone its holiday to December 25th. That will make SYKakunov. Well, on December 27, we will postpone the holiday again on January 1 (we’ve got used to .... postpone)
  24. NEXUS
    NEXUS 16 November 2017 17: 12
    +2
    Ukraine breaks away from Moscow calendars and Russian imperial standards.

    DB Damn (through yat)!
    Calendar (lat. Calendarium - debt book: in ancient Rome, debtors paid interest on the calendar day, the first days of the month)
    Other calendars
    Armelina · Armenian: Ancient Armenian, Christian · Assyrian · Aztec · Bahá'í · Bengali · Buddhist · Babylonian · Byzantine · Eastern Slavic · Vietnamese · Hilbourd · Holocene · Gregorian · Georgian · Ancient Norwegian · Ancient Hebrew Indian · Inca · Iranian · Irish · Islamic · Celtic · Chinese · Konta · Coptic · Malay · Maya · Masonic · Mingo · Nepali · New Julian · Proleptic: Julian, Gregorian · Roman · Romanian · Symmetric · Soviet · Stable · Tamil · Thai: lunar, sunny · Tibetan · Three-season · Tuvan · Turkmen · French · Khakass · Canaanite · Harappa · ​​Juche · Swedish · Sumerian · Ethiopian · Julian · Javanese · Japanese

    And where is the Moscow calendar? foolSoviet? So the Union has not existed for more than 25 years. lol
  25. Political Department-M
    Political Department-M 16 November 2017 18: 16
    +1
    Everyone transfers, forbids, destroys Russian in Ukraine and all that reminds us of us .. But they don’t think that the whole point is that family ties have connected us for many generations with Ukraine! Evict all those who are connected with Russia and Ukraine will simply be empty .. The Westerners will only remain in the farms there, chewing and shouting fat, "Ukraine, ce neuropa"
    AND EVERYTHING! And Turchinov, who forgot this sectarian and not even a Catholic, especially not the Orthodox faith!
    Excellent work Sanya Turchinov .. Well, damn ..
  26. pasechnik
    pasechnik 16 November 2017 18: 33
    +1
    Slowly moving to Catholic Christmas! :-)
  27. gorgo
    gorgo 16 November 2017 18: 35
    +1
    Quote: MAZANDARAN
    Rohulyatik, but tell me, what does the calendar have to the USSR? As far as I remember, the commies’s attitude to believers was terrible?! So why do your ZRADA clowns allegedly name the reason because of de-Sovietization ....?!

    So you seriously consider yourself entitled to talk to people like that? It seems to me that you did not even understand the meaning of my post for some reason, although everything is simple. And now, having endowed me with a kind of offensive epithet, you are asking about some things ... to which I, in fact, are only related to the fact that I live in the country where they take place. I would leave your comment unattended, but I want you to still see that I read it.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 30
      0
      Quote: gorgo
      So you seriously consider yourself entitled to talk to people like that?

      And he does not know how otherwise lol I’m used to talking in the zone.
  28. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 16 November 2017 18: 42
    +2
    I still understand the desire of the "banderlog" to abandon ...., but from the fundamental one is a bust. This is me, as a Muslim, and then I understand. It turns out that not to be friends with the head at home, i.e. They do not have everything at home!
  29. BABAY22
    BABAY22 16 November 2017 20: 54
    0
    So I won’t be surprised at all if the next step in the European integration of this land area is the proposal of one of the Maidan: dig up all of Ukraine, move it all together somewhere to the west, and preferably overseas and live there, with the whole civilized world. I'm afraid only the Civilized will sharply object to such a new neighbor.
  30. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 16 November 2017 21: 00
    0
    In the beginning they will get rid of Moscow calendars and then they will get rid of wind and air blowing from Russia
  31. ufpb
    ufpb 16 November 2017 21: 11
    +4
    For me and my family, 25 December will remain an ordinary WORKING DAY.
  32. Eurodav
    Eurodav 17 November 2017 00: 01
    +1
    Bravo pastor! I cooked an aspen stake! I will pass it to LDNR ... With the inscription - from VO! Admins! Do not urinate? From Important Persons! Relax ...
  33. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 28
    0
    In fact, Ukraine faces an attempt to convert the bulk of the population to a different faith with the clear desire of the curators of Kiev to alienate the people from traditional Orthodoxy.

    This is pure nonsense. Celebrating Christmas according to an adequate calendar has nothing to do with the transition to another faith (Islam, for example))) and even to another branch of Christianity. Most Orthodox churches in the world are celebrated according to the Gregorian calendar.
    The transfer of the weekend from January 7 to December 25 together with the transfer of the celebration of the Orthodox Nativity of Christ is “an important event for Ukraine.”

    And this is a pure lie. No one can bear anything. As was the day off on January 7, it will remain so. They will only add the weekend also on December 25.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 November 2017 08: 33
      0
      Quote: Normal ok
      Celebrating Christmas by Adequate Calendar

      What is an adequate calendar in your concept?
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 17 November 2017 21: 32
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Normal ok
        Celebrating Christmas by Adequate Calendar

        What is an adequate calendar in your concept?

        Much more accurate lol
  34. mavrus
    mavrus 17 November 2017 00: 33
    0
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: pjastolov
    I don’t understand, the church then? After all, the church calendar, as far as I think, is considered by the lunar month?

    Yes, they simply switch to the Julian calendar adopted in Catholicism ...
    Spit on the faith of their ancestors ...

    Guys, let's live ... do not confuse calendars. The Julian calendar was introduced by Julius Caesar. According to it, the Orthodox Church celebrates the holidays, it is often called the “old style” in our country, the Gregorian calendar in Catholic countries was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII in the 18th century. And in Russia, the Bolsheviks in the XNUMXth year.
  35. Chever
    Chever 17 November 2017 00: 49
    0
    This is so ridiculous that it’s not even funny fool
  36. a housewife
    a housewife 17 November 2017 02: 01
    +1
    A calendar is a conditional thing invented by people. And the exact date of Christmas is generally unknown, therefore it is tied to the solstice. The Orthodox Church has kept its calendar purely as a tradition, precisely because they are well aware of the conventions of Christmas. And these Turchinovs and their ilk do not give a damn about all these subtleties, if only to once again get away from Russia, to widen the gap. Only here most likely the opposite will happen. Prohibit something, people will defiantly violate the ban.
  37. iouris
    iouris 17 November 2017 02: 20
    0
    By the way, right. It is necessary to get ahead of them.
  38. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 17 November 2017 04: 48
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    It’s time for us to figure it out ourselves — the reckoning “from the birth of Christ” !!! . but we first celebrate the new year, and then we celebrate Christmas - idiocy.
    1. delvin-fil
      delvin-fil 17 November 2017 05: 36
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      What's the connection? NG and before Christ celebrated, and after. And all nations are different. It’s time for you to decide whether you are Orthodox, or a Catholic.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 November 2017 08: 34
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      Quote: tolmachiev51
      First we celebrate the New Year, and then we celebrate Christmas - idiocy.

      ? !!!!
      and what is the connection
      new year is new year, christmas is christmas
    3. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
      Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 17 November 2017 11: 23
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      And Catholics celebrate the New Year after Christmas. And than after better than to?
  39. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 17 November 2017 05: 34
    +1
    Uncle's bo-bo head - the pan (and helmet) crushed a single ganglion.
    No, well, they would make separate holidays for Verkhzrada, according to the rules of the curators, and would cheerfully report back, wO!
    What does the people have to do with it?
  40. Vitas
    Vitas 17 November 2017 06: 54
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    As I understand it, January 7th is a holiday. Canceled on May 2, and introduced on December 25.
  41. sgr291158
    sgr291158 17 November 2017 07: 17
    +1
    Yes, let them do what they want, even though Islam is accepted and circumcised.
  42. uav80
    uav80 17 November 2017 07: 57
    +1
    Somewhere I already saw it ...

  43. gorgo
    gorgo 17 November 2017 10: 22
    +1
    Quote: ufpb
    For me and my family, 25 December will remain an ordinary WORKING DAY.


    Totally agree with you. hi
  44. gorgo
    gorgo 17 November 2017 10: 26
    +1
    Quote: uav80
    Somewhere I already saw it ...



    My grandmother survived the occupation in Kiev and remembered and talked about the black-and-white flags and the war ... The same thing ...
  45. locos
    locos 17 November 2017 10: 34
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    Turchinov certainly can say a lot, but he did not say anything about the transfer of Orthodox Christmas from January 7 to December 25. This is on the conscience of the news compiler. Ukraine, as it celebrated Orthodox Christmas on January 7, will continue to celebrate. January 7, as it was a weekend, it remained.
  46. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 17 November 2017 11: 24
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    Quote: tolmachiev51
    It’s time for us to figure it out ourselves — the reckoning “from the birth of Christ” !!! . but we first celebrate the new year, and then we celebrate Christmas - idiocy.

    And Catholics celebrate the New Year after Christmas. And than after better than to?
  47. Bosch
    Bosch 21 November 2017 15: 22
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    The bloody pastor has chronic schizophrenia.