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Ukrainian media: Russia and the United States are close to agreeing a resolution on peacekeepers in the Donbas

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The Ukrainian publication Apostrof publishes material in which it is stated that in fact Russia and the United States are “close to agreeing” on issues connected [with the deployment of a peacekeeping mission in Donbas. Recall that after meeting with the US Special Representative for Ukraine in Belgrade, Vladislav Surkov said that the Russian side is ready to approve only 3 proposed by the American side of the paragraph of the document from 29.


"Apostrophe", referring to an unnamed representative of the official authorities of Ukraine, writes about a possible draft resolution, which supposedly looks like this:
point one: control over the line of contact of the parties;
point two: the adoption of the Verkhovna Rada of the law on elections and de-occupation of the Donbass;
point three: the mandate of the UN mission for the entire territory of Donbass;
point four: Kiev recognizes the legitimacy of local authorities on the basis of the approval of a special procedure for self-government;
point five: admission of Ukrainian troops to the border with the Russian Federation and the spread of Ukrainian laws on the entire territory of Donbass.



Earlier, the Kremlin’s press service said that all the statements made about the alleged coordination of the mission of peacekeepers in the Donbas are untrue. In Kiev, they continue to insist that "a compromise solution was actually found."
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 16 November 2017 13: 59
    +5
    And the navel will not get loose?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 16 November 2017 14: 01
      +7
      hi That's it! Ukraine who imagines herself that makes such statements?
      1. Going
        Going 16 November 2017 14: 44
        +9
        Let them shave themselves, and so it’s not sweet for them, from all sides there are only hicks, already the whole ass is in sticks.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 16 November 2017 14: 53
          +4
          This is no longer a mriy, it’s already going through a borzometer. negative
          1. Going
            Going 16 November 2017 14: 57
            +8
            So they need to give a borzomer, otherwise they don’t know and don’t feel the coast.
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 16 November 2017 15: 39
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        That's it! Ukraine who imagines herself that makes such statements?

        Yes max hi just everyone, striped with the lips of their slaves, probe our reaction to their version. hi
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 16 November 2017 15: 43
          +3
          Vlad hi So let them play and feel with each other in the hospital for the neoplasms, the therapists from Kukuevo. lol
    2. Logall
      Logall 16 November 2017 14: 02
      +7
      In my opinion, we have already passed a similar conspiracy! Minsk-2 is called ... And what will we call this? Un one?
      Our politicians are whispering well, let's see how in reality ...
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 November 2017 14: 02
      +3
      Ukrainian Media: Russia and the USA
      and the states are not beguiled? can dump on your island, and shut up?
      1. The black
        The black 16 November 2017 14: 31
        +2
        But I think that the Americans do not need Ukraine anymore. But they are still not mentally prepared to admit defeat .... not yet ready smile.... I think they are holding it as a bargaining chip ...
        1. Slovak
          Slovak 17 November 2017 12: 14
          0
          The states do not need Ukraine as such, but a territory near Russia, provided with cheap labor, a slave government, in other words, able to satisfy and satisfy the needs of a gigantic US military base.
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 16 November 2017 14: 30
      +5
      Quote: Sith Lord
      And the navel will not get loose?

      Is this with the item 5? wassat
      Well .... These shustriks have already changed the Minsk agreements in their own way, where the main and only point, in their Bandera opinion, is
      point five: the admission of Ukrainian troops to the border with the Russian Federation and the spread of Ukrainian laws throughout the territory of Donbass.
      . laughing
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 16 November 2017 14: 38
        +5
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Is this with the item 5?

        In fact, the key points in this statement are:
        point one: control over the line of contact of the parties ( i.e. blocking and destroying the DPR armed forces);

        point three: mandate of the UN mission throughout the Donbass (i.e., calculation for the USA and other allies of dill);

        point five: the admission of Ukrainian troops to the border with the Russian Federation and the spread of Ukrainian laws throughout the territory of Donbass (full occupation).
        LET and LET, twice.
        First - to their positions;

        Second - until the moment where the next Minsk will catch us ...
        And Minsk would not be desirable.

        TIME TO DOT!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 16 November 2017 14: 44
          +4
          Quote: Separ DNR
          TIME TO DOT!

          No doubt .....
          I just wanted to emphasize the Bandera approach to solving the problems of Donbass. They sleep and see how they enter there in the form of an SS under the guise of modern Panzervaffen with Luftwaffen.
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 16 November 2017 14: 50
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            No doubt .....
            I just wanted to emphasize the Bandera approach to solving the problems of Donbass. They sleep and see how they enter there in the form of an SS on the cover of modern Panzervaffen with Luftwaffen.

            In the process of “thinking through”, I made some of my thoughts and comments regarding the dill “fad”.
            As a result, almost 100% e coincidence with your assessment of dreams non-monetary yes .
    5. win
      win 16 November 2017 14: 40
      +1
      And the navel will not get loose?


      Give Ukraine a navel brush.
      Believe me, she will be pleased smile

  2. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 16 November 2017 14: 02
    +4
    Somewhere wrote 3 out of 29 ??
    Far as close!))
  3. BMP-2
    BMP-2 16 November 2017 14: 24
    +2
    M-yes, the strange logic of the brothers in mind from the "Apostrf." what Where do they suffer from "Russian aggression"? In Kiev! So, peacekeepers should be introduced there! yes It is desirable directly to the Verkhovna Rada: to prevent the spread, so to speak. laughing
  4. stolz
    stolz 16 November 2017 14: 26
    +1
    Quote: Logall

    Our politicians are whispering well, let's see how in reality ...

    If that happens, it will be, as always: Russia will remain in the cold, wipe off, and then will be long and tedious to resent, take retaliatory "mirror" measures and condemn someone.
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 16 November 2017 15: 00
      +3
      Quote: Stolz
      If that happens, it will be, as always: Russia will remain in the cold, wipe off, and then will be long and tedious to resent, take retaliatory "mirror" measures and condemn someone.


      Well, if you think so, then the keys to the Mother See are to be taken out on a platter.
      You, in the beginning, feel the price of the issue for Russia, then reason ...
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 November 2017 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: Stolz
      If that happens, it will be, as always: Russia will remain in the cold, wipe off, and then will be long and tedious to resent, take retaliatory "mirror" measures and condemn someone.

      Stolz, where are you broadcasting from? Either from bulk anal, or from Maidan nezalezhnogo. In all the comments you have Russia "in the cold."
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 16 November 2017 14: 37
    0
    Well, how they want to wishful thinking. They have politics and all built on a lie.
  6. Black water
    Black water 16 November 2017 14: 39
    0
    Quote: Black
    But I think that the Americans do not need Ukraine anymore. But they are still not mentally prepared to admit defeat .... not yet ready smile.... I think they are holding it as a bargaining chip ...

    I support, the main task was a base on the Black Sea on the Crimean peninsula. and now they are trying to get rid of Ukraine ....
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 16 November 2017 14: 51
      +1
      Quote: Black Water
      Quote: Black
      But I think that the Americans do not need Ukraine anymore. But they are still not mentally prepared to admit defeat .... not yet ready smile.... I think they are holding it as a bargaining chip ...

      I support, the main task was a base on the Black Sea on the Crimean peninsula. and now they are trying to get rid of Ukraine ....

      I don’t agree. The main task was and remains the presence of cannon fodder, which, poorly and poorly, will be ready to fight with Russia. And this task has been successfully completed, with a prospect for the foreseeable future. And the base in Crimea is like that, the concomitant nishtyak.
    2. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 16 November 2017 14: 55
      +6
      Quote: Black Water
      I support, the main task was a base on the Black Sea on the Crimean peninsula. and now they are trying to get rid of Ukraine ....

      Without a base in the Crimea, the Americans certainly are not.
      But Russia, with the Americans in Ukraine, you need to understand, is also not that ...

      In vain do you think that the Americans just so abandon such a bridgehead and ram.
      1. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 16 November 2017 15: 12
        +2
        From this we conclude that in such a half-starved, embittered, more or less not badly armed, Ukraine will be supported for a long time.
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 16 November 2017 15: 19
          +4
          Quote: Hagalaz
          From this we conclude that in such a half-starved, embittered, more or less not badly armed, Ukraine will be supported for a long time.

          I agree to: half-starved, embittered, even more or less badly armed Ukraine (if such a state suits Russia). BUT without us !

          That is, the DPR and LPR in the beginning should regain the previously lost territories, having entered the previously administrative, and now state borders, and only then ...

          Let Ukraine starve itself, become embittered, "not badly armed", but without us.
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 16 November 2017 15: 25
            +2
            Definitely. Not even discussed.
  7. Galan
    Galan 16 November 2017 15: 01
    +1
    "Earlier, the Kremlin’s press service announced that all the statements made regarding the alleged coordination of the peacekeeping mission in the Donbass are untrue."
    Mrs. Rozmovylyut, but why should Ukrainian servants lick at Rozmov?
  8. stolz
    stolz 16 November 2017 16: 25
    0
    Quote: Separ DNR

    That is, the DPR and LPR in the beginning should regain the previously lost territories, having entered the previously administrative, and now state borders,

    I don’t know how the DNI, but the LC is already trying to determine the borders:
    In early November, the Acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of the LPR, Vladislav Deiny, officially announced that the leadership of the republic was deciding on the possibility of reintegrating the region into Ukraine. He substantiated this by the fact that the international community will never recognize the Republic of Donbass anyway, and the frozen conflict with Kiev will still be harvesting its death crop for a very long time.
  9. stolz
    stolz 16 November 2017 23: 00
    0
    Quote: Piramidon

    Stolz, where are you broadcasting from? Either from bulk anal, or from Maidan nezalezhnogo. In all the comments you have Russia "in the cold."

    You see, silly woman, I once passed exams and tests, wrote term papers on the following sciences: "International Relations and the Foreign Policy of the USSR", "History of the International Worker and Communist Movement", "History of Wars and Military Art" and many others, there was even a “History and Theory of Russian, Soviet and Modern Foreign Literature” - this means that education and further career activities allow me to objectively evaluate events. So, do not be particularly smart, but listen and remember what the elders say.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 November 2017 23: 18
      0
      Quote: Stolz
      So, do not be particularly smart, but listen and remember what the elders say.

      And with such "knowledge" and "scientific works" the answer is at the level of the yard urka. Turning to “you” and not knowing your opponent’s age to classify him as “younger”, thereby sticking out your significance and superior mind - this, of course, is the pinnacle of education.
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 16 November 2017 23: 19
      +7
      Quote: Stolz
      I once passed exams and tests, wrote term papers in such sciences ...

      All these words ... who or what obliges you to believe?
      According to your remarks, a great depth of thought ... cannot be traced, but aplomb - more than enough.
      Quote: Stolz
      listen and remember what the elders say

      Let the “elders” say at least something clever ... purely for a change ...
  10. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 17 November 2017 01: 37
    0
    I do not like this idea of ​​peacekeepers. The United States may even agree with the presence of Russian peacekeepers from the Donbass. Then the NATO forces occupy the whole of Eastern Ukraine east of the DPR and LPR, and this is serious and for a long time.
  11. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 17 November 2017 01: 46
    0
    Donbass USA is not needed. NATO plans to capture the Black Sea coast of puppet Ukraine.
  12. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 17 November 2017 02: 01
    0
    Russia's passive stance is beneficial to NATO. Ukraine will soon disappear, and the Black Sea coast will occupy NATO. In this case, a war with Ukraine is more profitable than the world, because it will not allow the United States to gain a foothold in the strategically beneficial region for the Russian Federation - Transnistria, Odessa region, etc.
  13. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 17 November 2017 02: 22
    0
    An empire cannot exist without wars, at least small, regional ones. Otherwise, the army begins to decompose, which I was an eyewitness in Soviet times. Inevitable drunkenness. The soldiers are commanded by the general’s wives in the construction of cottages, etc. Chechens also go to the army not only for the sake of salary and beautiful form.