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Kudrin: The retirement age should be raised, since the government has no money

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Former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin gave an interview "Arguments and Facts". The head of the Center for Strategic Development Kudrin today announced that the government had run out of money for pensions.


According to Kudrin, the government violated social obligations as early as last year, when instead of indexing pensions for Russian citizens, they used a lump sum payment in the amount of 5 thousand rubles in January.

Kudrin: The retirement age should be raised, since the government has no money


Kudrin noted that the limitation of pension payments to working pensioners is being discussed. According to the head of the CSR, this indicates precisely that there are no funds in the country for the provision of pension payments in full.

Kudrin finally reduced all his arguments to another thesis about the need to increase the retirement age.

Aif quotes Mr. Kudrin:
Retirement now means a sharp - in 3 times - decline in the quality of life. This is such a "hard landing" for a person who is retiring. With the increase in the active period of a Russian’s life, the question of raising the retirement age is a necessary measure.


According to Kudrin, the retirement age for women in the Russian Federation should be raised to 63 years, for men - to 65.

Proposals on how to reduce the theft of funds from the treasury and increase the percentage of economic growth, economist Kudrin did not sound.
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  1. Orel
    Orel 16 November 2017 12: 53 New
    42
    They have no money ... They have no conscience ...
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 16 November 2017 12: 59 New
      24
      This bastard my eyes would not have seen
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 16 November 2017 13: 05 New
        16
        OK. We increase, but only to one Kudrin smile
        1. bagr69
          bagr69 16 November 2017 13: 10 New
          +5
          And where was he before with his brilliant ideas ???
          After leaving power everyone becomes so clever right ...
          1. Zibelew
            Zibelew 16 November 2017 13: 27 New
            25
            In vain Kudrin angers the people. The oligarchs are getting richer every year, but there is no money in retirement! Bastards sad
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 16 November 2017 14: 12 New
              13
              Quote: Thrall
              OK. Raise, but only one Kudrin smile

              Kudrin should not be raised. He urgently needs to retire. On further from the budget and overbearing ears.
              His pissing in the ears of government bureaucrats dramatically negatively affects the life of a Russian person.
              He also needs a stamp on his forehead - a foreign agent.
              1. Young_Communist
                Young_Communist 16 November 2017 14: 31 New
                +4
                Quote: Vladimir16
                His pissing in the ears of government bureaucrats dramatically negatively affects the life of a Russian person.

                But Putin left him as an adviser to himself - which means Kudrin is an intelligent and necessary person. And on pensions - we’ll trample over, grandfathers and not survived that. The important thing now is Borey to put in order and continue to benefit from the sanctions.
                1. Warrior with machine gun
                  Warrior with machine gun 16 November 2017 16: 07 New
                  12
                  you, as a young communist, should know that in such situations when there is no money, the proletariat must tightly squeeze the udder of the capitalists, because it is they who usually talk about their absence (often with the help of their snares like kudrin), and they have the money ( capitalists) is, so it’s not necessary to remove the last shirt from oneself, but 3-4 coats to be removed from these nits.
                  1. Young_Communist
                    Young_Communist 16 November 2017 16: 59 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
                    you, as a young communist, should know that in situations where there is no money, the proletariat must tightly squeeze the udders of the capitalists

                    Maidana wanted? How are Ukrainians?
                    1. Warrior with machine gun
                      Warrior with machine gun 16 November 2017 17: 06 New
                      +4
                      why should they be like, why should they spread the whole country in order to get rid of “sensible” kudins, and there the task was to cover and take control of the country, and not get rid of parasites, the fight against the oligarchy there was just a beautiful nonsense.
                      1. Young_Communist
                        Young_Communist 16 November 2017 17: 25 New
                        0
                        Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
                        why should they be like, why should they spread the whole country to get rid of “sensible” kudins, and there the task was to cover and take control of the country, and not get rid of parasites

                        Kudrina Putin took to his campaign headquarters. Those. a pension application is part of Putin’s program, albeit not yet official. Calling for the destruction of Kudrin, you indirectly call for the overthrow of Putin. Think about it.



                        MOSCOW, November 15, FederalPress. Former Minister of Finance, chairman of the Center for Strategic Research (CSR) Alexei Kudrin joined the work of the informal campaign headquarters of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

                        According to Vedomosti interlocutors, from the beginning of September of this year, Kudrin began to take an active part in the activities of the presidential administration - in particular, he regularly meets with the head of the AP Anton Vaino and his first deputy Sergei Kiriyenko.
                        “He [Kudrin] is invited not only to discuss strategy, but also to discuss political issues. In fact, the election headquarters of Vladimir Putin is already working, and Kudrin is actively participating in his work, relying on the development of the CSR, ”a source in the Committee of Civil Initiatives (KGI) told the publication.
                        According to the publication, Kudrin is preparing to more actively promote his draft strategy for Russia's economic development until 2024. In this regard, he can get more airtime on television, as well as a likely public meeting with Putin, which will help promote the project.
                    2. Litvinov
                      Litvinov 16 November 2017 18: 17 New
                      +4
                      Do Young Communists Really Know the International?

                      "... No one will give us deliverance
                      Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
                      We will achieve liberation
                      With your own hand. "

                      You talk like a United Russia ...
                      1. Warrior with machine gun
                        Warrior with machine gun 17 November 2017 14: 10 New
                        +4
                        nothing surprising, crushed the Communist Party, and on the RSDLP (b) is not at all like))
                    3. AUL
                      AUL 16 November 2017 20: 41 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Young_Communist
                      Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
                      you, as a young communist, should know that in situations where there is no money, the proletariat must tightly squeeze the udders of the capitalists

                      Maidana wanted? How are Ukrainians?

                      Or maybe it’s enough to scare us with Maidans when there are no other arguments? Tired of it already!
                      And about money - enter a progressive taxation scale, and there will be enough money not only for pensioners, but also for the army, and for health care, and for education, and science ... And there is no need for songs that then taxes will not be collected. Cover up the withdrawal of dough in offshore and tighten the penalty for non-payment - they will pay, how nice!
                      Yes, only someone upstairs will like it ...
                2. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 29 New
                  +3
                  Exactly! From Putin, and you have to ask! And the government suits him and Kudrin!
                  1. Young_Communist
                    Young_Communist 16 November 2017 17: 39 New
                    +2
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    Exactly! From Putin, and you have to ask! And the government suits him and Kudrin!

                    But the "asker" has grown to Rosguard and the Kadyrov’s forts?
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 58 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Young_Communist
                      Quote: andrej-shironov
                      Exactly! From Putin, and you have to ask! And the government suits him and Kudrin!

                      But the "asker" has grown to Rosguard and the Kadyrov’s forts?

                      Not sts uncle! If the Communists are now liquid, then the people are not!
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 17 November 2017 23: 07 New
                        0
                        Uncle is not a "scit", uncle jokes on black ..
                    2. Cadet
                      Cadet 16 November 2017 17: 59 New
                      +1
                      And what is the opinion of people no longer asked? and Kadyrov’s are so cool? Nuuu straight twist.
            2. corporal
              corporal 16 November 2017 14: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: Zibelew
              In vain Kudrin angers the people

              Can throw off the whole site on a killer? what
              Just kidding, just kidding ....... although the idea is not bad. wassat
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 30 New
                +4
                There's no point! This hydra has long steered Russia! There you can’t get off with one killer!
        2. Smog
          Smog 16 November 2017 13: 39 New
          +6
          Quote: Thrall
          We increase, but only to one Kudrin

          Or maybe he will be dispossessed ........., together with his gang of liberal funsists. ????? And for ..... ..... forget about raising the retirement age
          1. Logall
            Logall 16 November 2017 13: 59 New
            +6
            Why only liberal? All!
        3. alstr
          alstr 16 November 2017 13: 45 New
          +5
          No. It is better to send him immediately to retire somewhere in Siberia with a pension at the minimum wage.
          1. Dedall
            Dedall 17 November 2017 22: 31 New
            +2
            And I propose in general for all these Duma loafers to organize a reality show called "Either the minimum wage or the dead." Let them live on this amount for half a year with payment of rent, travel on transport and other things. Yes, so that there is constant control and, if all the same, who survives, then so be it - to be allowed to go in for legislative activity. I laugh in advance, imagining Zhirik with Anakom and a packet of kefir for a day, or Mironov, who is cooking soup on a broth from sausages and standing at the stove with holey socks.
            But the saddest thing is that my doctor’s salary does not even reach the minimum wage. So I have already accumulated anger in the two October and three French revolutions.
        4. My doctor
          My doctor 16 November 2017 13: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Thrall
          OK. Raise, but only one Kudrin smile

          Just he would be glad. For officials and people in decent posts, this is a great blessing. For most of them are afraid of the moment when they are asked to retire, they are afraid of becoming useless. Useless, but not for the homeland, but for their environment, to lose status.
          1. andr327
            andr327 16 November 2017 19: 07 New
            +3
            Hai with him with an increase in retirement age, and where will they get additional jobs? Or do you have money for unemployment benefits?
        5. volodya
          volodya 17 November 2017 14: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Thrall
          OK. We increase, but only to one Kudrin smile

        6. e-egod
          e-egod 18 November 2017 20: 43 New
          0
          And he is there to death and will be, until the count, they will not put him! negative
      2. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 16 November 2017 13: 15 New
        +6
        Quote: vkl.47
        This bastard my eyes would not have seen

        Why even propagate the nonsense of this pro-Western liberalist! fool All his public statements carry - either provocative or openly treacherous meaning !!! negative
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 16 November 2017 13: 41 New
          +5
          Quote: Sergey-svs



          Everything fits into the strategy that guides our president ..
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            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 16 November 2017 14: 32 New
              +5
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Apparently we have different presidents.
              We have Putin, but it looks like Poroshenko. Take the kudrin from us. Go to a place with him in ... oops, I wanted to say to Europe ..


              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 16 November 2017 14: 42 New
                +1
                State Duma deputies approved in the first reading a bill to increase the minimum wage to a living wage from January 1, 2019. As a result of these efforts, Russia will rise from 95th to 86th place in the world in terms of minimum wages, and this amount will still be lower than in African Congo and Latin American Honduras.
                ---------------------------
                The installation of the federal authorities to balance the budgets of the Russian regions turned into a sharp reduction in social spending, such a loud statement was made by the head of the Accounts Chamber Tatyana Golikova. According to her, first of all, allocations for healthcare went under the knife - they were cut in 84 out of 85 regions of Russia.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 16 November 2017 16: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          Quote: vkl.47
          This bastard my eyes would not have seen

          Why even propagate the nonsense of this pro-Western liberalist! fool All his public statements carry - either provocative or openly treacherous meaning !!! negative

          It is about long cheap money and access to technology.
      3. volodya
        volodya 16 November 2017 13: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: vkl.47
        This bastard my eyes would not have seen

        Over boost! Teachers, doctors and pilots, because, with their education reform, soon there will be nobody to teach, treat and fly!
      4. venik
        venik 16 November 2017 14: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: vkl.47
        This bastard my eyes would not have seen

        =======
        Do not believe it! But this "handsome" - in an AMAZING "way" - "looks like" to one of my acquaintances "businessman" ... ("Believe it or not - even the glasses are the same!) - put next to them -" identical twins " .... Similarity - OH !!! (Even - the jaw - and then the SAME ...) Moreover - equally vile ....
      5. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 16 November 2017 16: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: vkl.47
        This bastard my eyes would not have seen

        In Israel, retire at 67, in Europe at an average of 65 ... the question of the size of the pension.
        1. Dedall
          Dedall 17 November 2017 22: 38 New
          +1
          Yeah, and the doctors there do not work for 3 rates (the official statistics of the combination indicator is 1,8). Then you can save strength and up to 65, knowing later that you will not render anything to yourself. And here I am already at 55, as if squeezed lemon and a pension will be 8600 rubles, because it is charged from one bare salary. In short, the death of the Kremlin organized crime group!
    2. win
      win 16 November 2017 12: 59 New
      10
      For children on New Year's Eve came up with Santa Claus,
      for adults - New Year's discounts,
      for the elderly - increasing retirement periods,
      for impotent people - fireworks. request
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 16 November 2017 12: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: Orel
      They have no money ... They have no conscience ...

      They leave their conscience when they sit in the office chair. yes
      With the increase in the active period of a Russian’s life, the issue of raising the retirement age is a necessary measure.

      Yeah yeah, but will it add health to a person? Damn Through the Looking Glass. negative
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 16 November 2017 13: 04 New
      +5
      I generally read the headline, like "Kudrin must be hung"))
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 16 November 2017 13: 33 New
        +6
        Alyosha said something that Vova does not dare to say ... wink They’re probing the “soil” of the people, then Zhirik, then Alyoshka, then what a fabulous character ... character ... wassat

        Some comments are not good many ... if Putin said Vova-everyone would agree with the need to raise the retirement age .... laughing
        1. DOC
          DOC 16 November 2017 13: 57 New
          0
          Do you think that everything is decided by Vova and he is responsible for everything? Is the government white and fluffy? You live as a slave and you die to him .. What suggestions can there be sensible, or just tongue-in-cheek? Alyosha, like other liberals, should be put to the wall (by the way, Vova is the same liber in part). A great country of Russia has been kept by a bunch of ghouls, for almost 25 years. Is it a joke .. a quarter ..!
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 16 November 2017 14: 01 New
            +4
            Hrenase, how did you get this rakolbas enough ... Vovka, Dimka, Alyoshka - what's the difference? Vovka is ranked higher, and demand is from him ... tongue
    5. SIMALEX
      SIMALEX 16 November 2017 14: 24 New
      +1
      They have a casting - who will kill more people in the Russian Federation: this eccentric letter "M", this insect has passed and won.
    6. Maz
      Maz 16 November 2017 14: 25 New
      +2
      It is necessary to shock the gentlemen of the "Horoshavins" and their relatives, along with other similar servants of the people
    7. papas-57
      papas-57 16 November 2017 14: 31 New
      +3
      I agree, let them increase the retirement age. But with one amendment, officials were forbidden to occupy leadership positions after 60 years. No posts of consultants, deputies, assistants, etc. Let them go to work in the national economy.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 16 November 2017 14: 35 New
        0
        Quote: papas-57
        Let them go to work in the national economy.


        So now there is no national economy ... everything is private! yes
        1. papas-57
          papas-57 17 November 2017 01: 22 New
          +1
          The state still remains. Let them look for work there.
    8. ID90
      ID90 16 November 2017 14: 47 New
      +1
      Putin started an election campaign?
    9. dSK
      dSK 17 November 2017 01: 15 New
      +2

      Kudrin and the "company", 2012.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 16 November 2017 12: 58 New
    +5
    With the increase in the active period of a Russian’s life, the issue of raising the retirement age is a necessary measure.
    As I understand it, having studied the statistics of duration; life in Russia. We (the people) now have nothing to lose. The brave, however, in the government. And why do we need pension contributions now? wassat
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 16 November 2017 13: 06 New
      +7
      Quote: Observer2014
      With the increase in the active period of a Russian’s life, the issue of raising the retirement age is a necessary measure.
      As I understand it, having studied the statistics of duration; life in Russia. We (the people) now have nothing to lose. The brave, however, in the government. And why do we need pension contributions now? wassat

      I would put the question further, but why is there a state that only cuts taxes from the people, and in return does not give anything .. well, except for slogans ..
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 33 New
        +1
        I’ll say more. He doesn’t even give slogans! Going to vote for Putin?
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 November 2017 12: 59 New
    +7
    Kudrin

    As a minister, he systematically destroyed the country. Taking this post automatically fell into the category of “We don’t give our own over,” therefore, he calmly continues to give advice that can be attributed to provoking social discontent in the country. Not only the United States is working hard on the destruction of Russia ...
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 16 November 2017 15: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      As a minister, he systematically destroyed the country.

      During his ministry, the country developed at an unprecedented pace.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 08: 48 New
        0
        If the country collapsed during his reign, we would not be in such a deep ass now. One of his decisions to invest as much as possible in Treasury and in no way reduce credit rates for business, coupled with the absolute liberalization of government, we still come around!
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 16 November 2017 13: 00 New
    +7
    Or maybe just to reduce the staff of "deputies", their "assistants", etc. times in 3-4, and the remaining three times to cut salaries? Then, not only for pensioners, but also for the military-industrial complex, there will be enough roads and transport. And if thieves are also planted for real terms with confiscation, then we will generally forget what a crisis is.
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +3
    But Kudrin and joke. After all, he too, oooh, is very guilty that there is no money. what
  6. Viktorfi
    Viktorfi 16 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +3
    There is a second option - to lower the level of corruption.

    In Russia, the problem is that men already live a little. In other countries, including European ones, they are raising them, but there both men and women die much later than retirement.

    In Russia and parts of other countries of the post-Soviet space, the very big difference between men and women regarding life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.

    Against this background, women can actually raise the retirement age, but they need to be given the opportunity to work at that age, which is quite problematic.
    1. Viktorfi
      Viktorfi 16 November 2017 13: 08 New
      +2
      In Russia, a lot of women work in retirement this way, because it is difficult to live, and a similar law can deprive pensions of such women, which will even more affect poverty in the country.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 November 2017 16: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Viktorfi
      There is a second option - to lower the level of corruption.

      In Russia, the problem is that men already live a little. In other countries, including European ones, they are raising them, but there both men and women die much later than retirement.

      In Russia and parts of other countries of the post-Soviet space, the very big difference between men and women regarding life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.

      Against this background, women can actually raise the retirement age, but they need to be given the opportunity to work at that age, which is quite problematic.

      Good women professionals - accountants, doctors, competent lawyers, good managers, etc. and so hold with your hands and feet. I have a friend of his chief accountant in Her 66 years old, so he raised a considerable salary - 300 thousand rubles (about 18 thousand shekels) by a hundred, if only he would not leave him))) And this is not in Moscow ...
  7. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 November 2017 13: 02 New
    +2
    Katasonov. It’s hard about the important: “Money bags” - flight from Russia
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 16 November 2017 13: 04 New
    +7
    This topic is being discussed again ... oh, my heart feels I cannot live to retire ... crying
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 November 2017 13: 31 New
      +7
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I will not live to retire ...

      A rare Russian survives to retirement .....
      I was lucky, the Soviet stock affected.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 November 2017 13: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      This topic is being discussed again ... oh, my heart feels I cannot live to retire ... crying

      Come on. We have a pension for men 67, for women 62 and soon there will be 64 and nothing. Pensioners are full.
      1. Smog
        Smog 16 November 2017 13: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        We

        Aron! It is not with you, it is with us. And these are two big differences ... soldier
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 November 2017 13: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Smog

          Aron! It is not with you, it is with us. And these are two big differences ... soldier

          Come on. You might think we have little problems and poverty.
          1. Smog
            Smog 16 November 2017 14: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            You might think we have little problems and poverty.

            Yes, all these problems in bulk. But in fairness, you still have a longer life expectancy. hi
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 November 2017 17: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Smog

            Aron! It is not with you, it is with us. And these are two big differences ... soldier

            Come on. You might think we have little problems and poverty.

            Here the realities are different. If in Israel a pensioner traveling abroad does not surprise anyone, and people who live on average wages calmly allow themselves to travel abroad twice a year (including not cheap), then here is another song. Life in general is different.
      2. Per se.
        Per se. 16 November 2017 14: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Come on. We have a pension for men 67, for women 62 and soon there will be 64 and nothing
        Yes, Aaron, and women are still liable for military service ... Only, it is logical, when after 67 years you have a decent pension and no need to work, in fact we work until 70, and longer, since retired from such kudrins in It’s not worthy to live in our cold country, and to work without work-related pensions for pennies (work for pensioners). It was summer in the Arkhangelsk region, there were empty villages all around, where life was in full swing before, so only people with disabilities and retirees survive there, there is no work. If the Russian lobby prevailed in the world, perhaps it would have been Israel’s doctors leaving for Russia, and not vice versa. Maybe we will return socialism, then Russia will be reborn, but for now such kudrins are dancing to other people’s pipes, you will think who descended from Adam and Eve, and who, according to Darwin, from a monkey ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 16 November 2017 17: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Per se.
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Come on. We have a pension for men 67, for women 62 and soon there will be 64 and nothing
          Yes, Aaron, and women are still liable for military service ... Only, it is logical, when after 67 years you have a decent pension and no need to work, in fact we work until 70, and longer, since retired from such kudrins in It’s not worthy to live in our cold country, and to work without work-related pensions for pennies (work for pensioners). It was summer in the Arkhangelsk region, there were empty villages all around, where life was in full swing before, so only people with disabilities and retirees survive there, there is no work. If the Russian lobby prevailed in the world, perhaps it would have been Israel’s doctors leaving for Russia, and not vice versa. Maybe we will return socialism, then Russia will be reborn, but for now such kudrins are dancing to other people’s pipes, you will think who descended from Adam and Eve, and who, according to Darwin, from a monkey ...

          Yes, it’s not the Jewish lobby and socialism. Another mentality, other realities, including political ones and Russia in general, is a young country - in its current form it is 26 years old.
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 17 November 2017 05: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            But not in the Jewish lobby and socialism is business.
            Of course, a quarter of a century, what age it is ... Some during this time "from the plow" industrialized, built a powerful state, others returned from the nuclear shield and space technology, if not to the "plow", so only to keep afloat at the expense of Soviet developments, the Soviet safety margin. Already, practically on all TV channels, children are collected money for operations, that there is a retirement age, nonsense, everyday life.
  9. cedar
    cedar 16 November 2017 13: 05 New
    +1
    One of the American whistles. What they blow, then whistles ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 16 November 2017 13: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: cedar
      One of the American whistles. What they blow, then whistles ...

      Something like this. His statements miraculously coincide with the IMF's requirements to raise the retirement age in Ukraine to the same levels. In general, it’s interesting, the budget was planned based on the cost of a barrel of oil of 40 American rubles, today this barrel is trading at 61,73 dollars, i.e. 21 bucks higher than budgeted. And no babos? Along the way, Lenka simply does not have a conscience and a sense of self-preservation. He is traditionally ready to transfer the entire margin to American papers so that the "well-wishers" of Russia do not starve since for 25 years they got used to eat three throats. This deer should be invited to go to the Vorkuta mine until the age of 65 to wave a pickax. If he agrees, then the people will agree to work.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 35 New
      0
      American? Yes, full of you! What the Kremlin and oligarchs need is whistling! With its help, they simply probe the soil.
  10. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 November 2017 13: 07 New
    +3
    No US sanctions are needed; Siluanov and Nabiullina will ruin the Russian economy
  11. HAM
    HAM 16 November 2017 13: 08 New
    0
    A person lives only 10 years-7 years before school and 3 years in retirement, and this ... wants to take this away!
    Itself will reach 65 ty ?? Although, this will reach, arrogant long live.
    1. Smog
      Smog 16 November 2017 13: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: HAM
      Will it reach 65?

      Well, this “youth” is only 57 years old. So he will even live 8 years and 18. Especially in such a difficult position-
      On April 30, 2016, by decree of Putin, Kudrin was appointed deputy chairman of the Economic Council under the President of Russia.

      Does not have time to reduce labor corns ..
  12. Eurodav
    Eurodav 16 November 2017 13: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: Orel
    They have no money ... They have no conscience ...

    Who do they have? You don’t understand that this werewolf brainwashes? Go less into the fact that he babbles, he is nobody, he just rolls a hut, well, about his conscience ... but he certainly doesn’t know such a word, with the same code.
    Moreover, how to believe this abomination, if he, not being a Jew, took and accepted Judaism? Here is the mildest comment about him in the thinking Russian world: "... Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin is a completely mentally unhealthy person. ABSOLUTELY. Again, generally speaking - schizophrenic. Maybe it's not schizophrenia - but the fact that some kind of "cuckoo" is definitely ... "
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  14. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 16 November 2017 13: 13 New
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    I wonder how Kudrin sleeps? Nightmares do not torment, do not hiccup?
    1. stas
      stas 16 November 2017 13: 30 New
      +2
      Those who are no longer burdened with torment of conscience break into power. They know how to push their elbows and lie.
      And such is power everywhere, and not just in the Kremlin.
      Therefore, control over power is needed, but power has been shown to the people - the Big Figs.
  15. rruvim
    rruvim 16 November 2017 13: 18 New
    +1
    Where did the money go? With minimal inflation, minimum "wages", oil prices more than 40 bucks per barrel (budgeted), the minimum state debt? That everything went to the Crimea, Donbass and Syria?
  16. win
    win 16 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +3
    Kudrin:
    - We need to reduce tension in society and somewhere and somehow integrate into the global economy ...
    Journalist:
    - Due to what?
    “No, you know, I am a liberal economist ...”
    I do not know due to what.
    Ya know, at the expense of whom... belay
  17. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 November 2017 13: 23 New
    +2
    I’ll add another video
  18. win
    win 16 November 2017 13: 26 New
    +5
    Retirement age needs to be raised, because the government has no money

    Kudrin, remember - it’s time to reconstruct Belomorkanal ... am
  19. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 16 November 2017 13: 26 New
    +1
    Kudrin = Chubais! That says it all!
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 16 November 2017 13: 32 New
      +3
      Kudrin = Chubais = Putin ..... bully Try to refute ... laughing
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 16 November 2017 13: 56 New
        +3
        Kudrin + Chubais + Nabiullina + Gref-Rogozin-Shoigu-Lavro
        c = Putin. Try to refute ... fellow
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 16 November 2017 13: 57 New
          0
          Your formula is science-based! Can not argue with that.
          1. stas
            stas 16 November 2017 16: 59 New
            0
            Shit, he knows for sure because he doesn’t give a shit, you can’t change anything here.
        2. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 37 New
          +2
          Nothing to refute! Shobla alone.
  20. win
    win 16 November 2017 13: 29 New
    +4
    Kudrin believes that raising the retirement age will be beneficial
    on the pensioners themselves, because:
    - Now the costs of the funeral will be borne by enterprises;
    - pensioners will not hang around in lines in social security;
    - colleagues will not spend money on farewell gifts;
    - pensioners will not sit on a bench at the entrance and get nervous because
    young people;
    - pensioners from the Pension Fund will be able to make a new innovative nanorepair
    in offices. recourse
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 16 November 2017 14: 09 New
      +1
      You forgot:
      Pensioners will not have to lug around with bags from Pyaterochka or Crossroads on weekdays - during discount days. They will be at WORK !!! It’s not clear what ...
  21. askort154
    askort154 16 November 2017 13: 34 New
    +1
    Our government has some kind of arithmetic. The budget for 2017 was adopted based on the price of oil - 40 dlr. The price has been growing steadily throughout the year, from 40 to 60 dlr. The difference is kept in the American capsule (they are waiting for the United States to freeze them), but there is no money for retirement. The main thing is that they brazenly declare - "there is no money, but you hold on." fool
  22. stolz
    stolz 16 November 2017 13: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: vkl.47
    This bastard my eyes would not have seen

    And for this, what is needed? That's right: to shoot him nafig, and even better, as a warning to like-minded people: Kasyanov, Nemtsov and others, publicly put on a stake on Bolotnaya Square.
  23. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 16 November 2017 13: 34 New
    +1
    Ishak Ovsky thought about where the youth will work if older workers do not give up their places to it? Where will millions of people go without the opportunity to earn on anal stocks?
  24. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 16 November 2017 13: 43 New
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    there is another proposal - to build the entire economic bloc of the government with the Medvedev, give shovels, make them dig a ditch, and bury them there alive, no matter how bloodthirsty it sounds ... well, there Kudrina there with his friends from the Liberty
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 39 New
      +1
      Not so: to build all the power in Russia together with the oligarchs and then on your list.
  25. afrikanez
    afrikanez 16 November 2017 13: 52 New
    +1
    Judging by how much money "flows" out of the country, it is not surprising that the government does not have it, and indeed it cannot be! Is it time to ask this "curly" from the country? Tired already with his "American" thoughts, on account of what we need to do!
  26. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 16 November 2017 13: 57 New
    +4
    For reference only:
    According to the World Health Organization, life expectancy in Russia for men is 64,7 of the year (127 is in the world), and for women is 76,3 of the year (89 is in the world).
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 16 November 2017 14: 03 New
      +1
      And where is Israel?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 16 November 2017 14: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: rruvim
        And where is Israel?


        Men are 80,6 and women are 84,3. Fifth and ninth place in the world, respectively.
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 16 November 2017 14: 11 New
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          And all of you - the Palestinian, Arab threat !!! You live on kosher food and do not experience stress ...
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 16 November 2017 14: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: rruvim
            And all of you - the Palestinian, Arab threat !!! You live on kosher food and do not experience stress ...

            And we do not complain. With the threat and stress cope. Who loves kosher, and who loves a trefoil for both cheeks cracks - to your health!
            By the way, your Palestinian brothers live 71,76, and the sisters - 75,64 of the year. But in Syria, life expectancy has decreased due to the war. In 2010, the average duration was almost 77 years, and now it is on par with the RF - 70,09.
            1. rruvim
              rruvim 16 November 2017 14: 35 New
              0
              But here in Russia the peasants are tight. That sanctions, the revolution, the war. And in revolutions, only one of your fellow tribesmen who, if they don’t live out, then destroy themselves. Kaganovich does not count. Then bears on the streets with balalaika, cold, vodka. Not that the belly warm on the lake of Galilee ...
              1. rruvim
                rruvim 16 November 2017 14: 39 New
                0
                Moreover, you need to know that the Christian is dying, then, when appropriate, God has already come and is Risen. And a Jew cannot die until he meets "his" Gd. Therefore, you drag your earthly time ...
                1. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 16 November 2017 15: 05 New
                  +1
                  But here in Russia the peasants are tight. That sanctions, the revolution, the war. And in revolutions, only one of your fellow tribesmen who, if they don’t live out, then destroy themselves. Kaganovich does not count. Then bears on the streets with balalaika, cold, vodka. Not that the belly warm on the lake of Galilee ...

                  It’s good in Galilee, excellent in the Mediterranean, and wonderful in Red and Dead. As for the rest, "Blessed is he who believes. It is warm to him in the world" (c). I wish you good health! hi
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 16 November 2017 17: 19 New
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                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    But here in Russia the peasants are tight. That sanctions, the revolution, the war. And in revolutions, only one of your fellow tribesmen who, if they don’t live out, then destroy themselves. Kaganovich does not count. Then bears on the streets with balalaika, cold, vodka. Not that the belly warm on the lake of Galilee ...

                    It’s good in Galilee, excellent in the Mediterranean, and wonderful in Red and Dead. As for the rest, "Blessed is he who believes. It is warm to him in the world" (c). I wish you good health! hi

                    On the Dead sucks))))
                    As for me:)
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 16 November 2017 17: 18 New
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                Quote: rruvim
                But here in Russia the peasants are tight. That sanctions, the revolution, the war. And in revolutions, only one of your fellow tribesmen who, if they don’t live out, then destroy themselves. Kaganovich does not count. Then bears on the streets with balalaika, cold, vodka. Not that the belly warm on the lake of Galilee ...

                Many start to plump on retirement.
              3. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 44 New
                0
                Not sanctions and revolutions, but Yeltsins and Putin!
  27. Sergey53
    Sergey53 16 November 2017 14: 54 New
    0
    If during the crisis we get poorer and OUR billionaires get richer and not go bankrupt, there is only one conclusion, we are just PREVENTED. Open and unashamed.
    1. White and fluffy
      White and fluffy 17 November 2017 07: 10 New
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      Good point, totally agree
  28. Romanenko
    Romanenko 16 November 2017 15: 11 New
    +1
    Yes, and right up to 85 years!
    Reliably and economically, those who survive will receive their pennies for poverty for this.
    By the way, you can still use the progressive experience of Myanmar - there is generally no such thing as a pension.
  29. bsk_una
    bsk_una 16 November 2017 15: 33 New
    0
    To drive such advisers in three necks so that they would run to the Mexican border. Medvedev, Shuvalov, Khristenko, Nabiulin and others. Oh, how many of them divorced on the free bread of Russia!
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 16 November 2017 16: 31 New
      0
      They each probably have accounts over the hill. Kudrin, in England, even has a whole Foundation in his name.
  30. Lycan
    Lycan 16 November 2017 15: 47 New
    0
    Kudrin:
    Here is the source for you
    "Chubais: we have a lot of money !!!! There is just a lot of them !!!!!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWxU5wNNw8A
  31. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 16 November 2017 15: 56 New
    0
    Sh luh A American!
  32. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 16 November 2017 16: 34 New
    +1
    do not forget that Putin pulled him out into the light of day again ...)))
    he is also liberal to the core
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 November 2017 17: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Eugene RS
      do not forget that Putin pulled him out into the light of day again ...)))
      he is also liberal to the core

      Actually, Kudrin didn’t reduce taxes weakly ...
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 16 November 2017 22: 02 New
        0
        According to the Kudrin system, money must be stored and not invested anywhere. How can one DEVELOP under such conditions? They support BANKS and not COMPANIES. And profit from speculation with their own ruble. And enterprises are forced to seek money abroad. And how to understand this?
  33. private person
    private person 16 November 2017 17: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    With the increase in the active period of a Russian’s life, the issue of raising the retirement age is a necessary measure.
    As I understand it, having studied the statistics of duration; life in Russia. We (the people) now have nothing to lose. The brave, however, in the government. And why do we need pension contributions now? wassat

    1000 times right !!!!!! Why do we need pension contributions if people do not live up to retirement with such a standard of living and medicine we have a direct road to the next world. As Lenin said, "Comrades, you are on the right track !!!"
  34. Roman 11
    Roman 11 16 November 2017 17: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
    in situations where there is no money, the proletariat must tightly squeeze the udder of the capitalists

    Mistake - November record month in bankruptcy legal entity ...... therefore taxes on social security (including pensions) are also not paid.

    Who to milk? What kind of capitalists? The oligarchs will pay off, many are already there, though on the hooks of all sorts of crusaders and other hangers-on, who will then find a way to dispossess them.

    There are no conditions for capitalism in Russia, here different climate. Putin is a kid, his oilmen "lit up." Economists, including Kudrin, are not stupid, but they don’t understand the essence - they adjust the economy to models and patterns. The theory here is powerless, practice is necessary in small and careful steps - once again, we have pollock brought to Omsk from Kamchatka, half the world! Corvettes are being built in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, and Kolomna delivers diesel! You will notice that these are only those components that we know ......

    Can you imagine such an economy? In a normal person, the language does not turn to call it that. You don’t wear panties over your head ??
    In short, it seems that everything is going to collapse ..... pensioners of their Putin were picking up, about 2 days ago there was a crush in Sberbank, some old people, nowhere to fall an apple, a mother and daughters of 7-8 years old are walking along the street, saying that she’s at home they don’t have any money at all, as if the child can help something - in general, some creeps are approaching, now pensions will be delayed, in markets the demand will fall and again in a spiral, they have been delayed for 2-3 months with ebony .... let's see what next, but something without light somehow.
  35. Nemesis
    Nemesis 16 November 2017 17: 21 New
    0
    If the government does not have money, then you need to collect a new, smarter person from those who were not in the previous government ...
  36. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 26 New
    0
    We all need to understand, Kudrin is just one of the Kremlin’s tools! Do not forget about the upcoming elections! Kudrin and Sobchak keep us in shape, forcing us to vote for Putin! But this is one and the same!
    1. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 17 November 2017 08: 35 New
      0
      Do you nominate yourself for president if you consider yourself smarter than Sobchak? Weak?
  37. Warrior with machine gun
    Warrior with machine gun 16 November 2017 17: 41 New
    +5
    Young_Communist,
    wait and see, the explosive is not far off when the real need to decide on whom and what to rely on, I think he understands that without this country there will be nobody, and the cockroaches of curls will scatter along the far slots, because unlike ordinary citizens, it’s here holds nothing. hi
    1. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 16 November 2017 17: 42 New
      +4
      rather their cockroaches))
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 16 November 2017 17: 46 New
      +1
      I beg of you! Yes, he will not rely on anyone! He has money, more than on the accounts of his friends!
      1. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 17 November 2017 00: 40 New
        +4
        when there will be nothing and nobody behind him, their pockets will be turned out and sent for a walk (this is at best)
  38. Slam
    Slam 16 November 2017 17: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Orel
    They have no money ... They have no conscience ...

    But then you have the Crimea and Lugandon in addition.
    1. Young_Communist
      Young_Communist 16 November 2017 17: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Slam
      But then you have the Crimea and Lugandon in addition.

      Yes, there is Crimea. Enviously?

    2. Sergei75
      Sergei75 16 November 2017 18: 09 New
      0
      That's what you get angry, I didn’t overcome Crimea, the LPR and the DPR, just our eccentrics agreed with yours that we should be separated, they pour it in your ears and you sucks and they do the same to us.
    3. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 17 November 2017 08: 51 New
      0
      And you (Crimea) stupidly galloped through it! And envy is a bad thing.
  39. Sergei75
    Sergei75 16 November 2017 18: 06 New
    +2
    And he can make everyone pensions of 30 rubles, then that's enough for everyone.
    My father-in-law died at age 62.
    And they are also surprised that the salaries are all gray, but in this situation they will be black! Why pay to a pension fund if you still don’t see the money.
    Corruption in our state goes through the roof; the external enemy is not so dangerous to us as the internal one.
  40. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 16 November 2017 18: 10 New
    +3
    Kudrin heads the Center for Strategic Research, because his merit in this field is the lack of money from the government to pay pensions.
    Any problem in life is solvable, including if there is no money, then they are worthless leaders, and therefore it is necessary to eliminate the cause. See how much money the PF spends not on the payment of pensions. Insufficient money collection is too low a salary for most workers, it is necessary to increase a salary for workers and moderate appetites from managers, because ordinary workers buy Russian goods, which stimulate the domestic market, i.e. the country's economy, and millions of revenues are spent on prestigious export goods, and are placed in Western banks, destroying the country's economy and strengthening external players who are ready to gobble up the Russian Federation. The government has all the authority to make the right decisions. It is necessary not only to eliminate the economic imbalance that is harmful to the state, but also to get rid of the maintenance of unnecessary structures such as the center headed by Kudrin, which costs the country dearly, and there is no use, only harm.
    1. l7yzo
      l7yzo 16 November 2017 19: 14 New
      +1
      The Saudis showed how you can replenish the budget and not at the expense of the people)
  41. anjey
    anjey 16 November 2017 18: 19 New
    +3
    Kudrin: Retirement age needs to be raised, because the government has no money
    nonsense, the oligarchs have the money and the government does not .... who to drive in the neck?
  42. l7yzo
    l7yzo 16 November 2017 19: 13 New
    0
    "where is our money, Shura?"
  43. gari1234
    gari1234 16 November 2017 19: 17 New
    +1
    Kudrin is a pro-Western politician, why he still holds a public office ... I am silent about Chubais!
  44. kefan
    kefan 16 November 2017 20: 43 New
    0
    This grief - the minister, in his time, only did that he invested money for a hill, he no longer knows how to go about anything.
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 16 November 2017 20: 45 New
      0
      His pupil ..
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBR3iovg3EA
  45. ZaRif
    ZaRif 16 November 2017 20: 46 New
    +1
    The slogan: "Kudrin - 12 tyr to retire!" Let it choke!
  46. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 16 November 2017 22: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Young_Communist
    Kudrina Putin took to his campaign headquarters. Those. a pension application is part of Putin’s program, albeit not yet official. Calling for the destruction of Kudrin, you indirectly call for the overthrow of Putin. Think about it.
    Hm))) Duc, Vladimir Putin has not yet made a statement that he is going to the polls! Where did the campaign headquarters with the election program come from? How do you know more than Putin himself knows?
    1. vladimirasha
      vladimirasha 16 November 2017 23: 53 New
      0
      AND HE TROUGH HIMSELF THAT MONEY WAS DISAPPEARED I THINK WHERE ANYTHING AGAIN organized fund who counted them.
  47. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 November 2017 00: 18 New
    0
    Raising the retirement age is only a matter of time. But no one will decide before the election.
  48. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 17 November 2017 01: 26 New
    0
    According to Kudrin, the retirement age for women in Russia needs to be raised ...

    Do not say what you need to raise a woman and she will not say where to go! repeat
  49. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 17 November 2017 08: 30 New
    0
    What are more smart people in Russia? Kudrin’s like Sharikov’s from “Heart of a Dog” - to pick up and share. Pension fund plundered - increase retirement age. I will tell Kudrin the development of the topic: to retire from 90 years, so that it survives less or to issue a referral to ephtanasia to the pension certificate.
  50. Whowhy
    Whowhy 17 November 2017 09: 02 New
    0
    "Solving complex problems with simple methods is fascism."
    What does raising the retirement age mean in situations where after 45 years it is almost impossible to get a job? - This is the cynical destruction of their own people.