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Fighting platoon T-26 eyes of his commander

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The few tankers who happened to start a war on tank T-26, survived to the opportunity to talk about what they experienced in memoirs and interviews. The largest tank of the Red Army by the beginning of the Great Patriotic War with armor, which protected tankers only from bullets, with insufficient mobility, did not contribute to the survival of the crew.

Our "boxes" seemed to us "formidable fighting machines"

Joseph Yampolsky is one of those who joined X-NUMX on T-1941, commanding a platoon of these machines. He was not a regular soldier (I remember the site): “In 26, I came to Kiev and started working at the Mechanical Plant. A couple of years he entered the Kiev Industrial (Polytechnic) Institute. He graduated in March 1932, received a degree in mechanical engineering of chemical engineering and returned to his native plant as a chief mechanic ... I studied in the militarized faculty. After the commander’s training, which lasted several months, we all were given the commanding ranks, and we were certified to the position of “commander of a tank platoon” ... When they passed Molotov on the radio, I collected a backpack, said goodbye to my wife and came to the recruiting office. According to the mobilization prescription, in the event of a call, I had to arrive during 1939 hours in the city of Lviv, in the Stryi park, where my tank unit was stationed. In the military registration and enlistment office of us, twenty “Lviv” people were detained for two days. It turned out that our unit was bombed out and there is an instruction not to send to Lviv, until further notice. We, a group of commanding officers, were sent to Lubny, and from there to Kharkov, to the 24-th reserve tank regiment. Here was the formation of individual tank battalions for the front ".

Neither T-34 nor KV were in the formed tank battalion:

“T-26 tanks ... Crew three people. Then, before the first real battle, our "boxes" seemed to us "menacing fighting machines" ... Almost all the cars were with walkie-talkies. There were some more BT-5 and BT-7. With rare exceptions, all the tankers were called up from the reserve, so our training was, to put it mildly, not very bearable ... But then who had the time to thoroughly prepare the reserves ”!

We beat on all sides

Joseph Yampolsky and his tank platoon had to enter the first battle not far from the location of the 615 reserve tank regiment near Kharkiv:

“After three months we were thrown into battle. There is such a village - Kilukivka, it seems. The Germans placed artillery batteries in the area of ​​this village and shelled the highway leading to Kharkov. Notice and suppress our batteries could not. I was summoned by the battalion commander and put a task to my platoon - to break through to the outskirts of this village occupied by the Germans, call the fire on myself, detect and map the location of enemy firing points, and transmit the data on the radio to the command post. This task, in fact, was a death sentence for us, but the order was received. At that time I was already a communist, I was brought up as a patriotic fanatic, therefore I was preparing for a heroic death for my Motherland. There was no fear. On the contrary, some kind of naive sense of pride that today I will die for my beloved country, but I will accomplish a feat ... It’s ridiculous to recall now. But this was my first fight. In the afternoon, my platoon as part of the five T-26 vehicles entered the village, and we were divided. With three tanks, I walked along the main street, and my commander-in-chief, Tereshchenko, moved with two tanks in parallel. And then it began. We beat on all sides. One car was burned, another was hit, but the crew died. I still managed to reach the tank Tereshchenko and take away the tablet with the map, which coordinates the German guns were killed from the hands covered with blood ... God kept us, three tanks left the village and returned to their back. Tereshchenko (posthumously) and I was awarded the Order of the Red Star, and the rest of the tank crews - with medals "For Courage". In October, our 41 unit was completely broken. ”

In 1941, fighters and commanders rarely spoiled the awards, to say the least. And then - in one battle, the platoon commander was awarded the order, his deputy received the order posthumously, the rest of the tankers received the medal “For Courage”. For that terrible time - generous rewards. And there is a reason. The tank platoon was able to complete the task assigned to him.

In another situation, one could rely, for example, on aerial reconnaissance. But ... were there any people in the fall of forty-one who were up in the air, were there still any combat-capable planes?

It would have been possible to try not to drive tanks under fire, but to send foot reconnaissance — if only there were trained fighters there capable of detecting German guns. And if they were not there, it remained only to expose extremely vulnerable tanks under artillery fire, relying on the courage of the tankers.

Yes, one T-26 was burned, the other was hit, but it was possible to put on the tablet the coordinates of the heavily annoying German guns. Yes, three more tanks were able to return under their own power from the village. Success, according to the forty-first year ...
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  1. Amurets
    Amurets 18 November 2017 07: 01 New
    +5
    Few tank crews who happened to start a war on the T-26 tank survived the opportunity to talk about their experiences in memoirs and interviews. The most numerous to the beginning of the Great Patriotic War tank of the Red Army with armor, protecting tankers only from bullets, with insufficient mobility, did not contribute to the survival of the crew.

    Yes, really rare memories. Prior to this, if tankers remembered the beginning of the war, the participation of the T-26 was rarely mentioned. Mainly BT and T-34 of the first releases, Kharkov plant.
    1. igordok
      igordok 18 November 2017 07: 38 New
      10
      Enough photos of 1941, with the tag "death field", with the image of the damaged T-26.
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 18 November 2017 17: 11 New
        +5
        Quote: igordok
        Enough photos of 1941, with the tag "death field", with the image of the damaged T-26.

        Like under Dubno Brody. There was a very large-scale tank battle, we have no one to cover from the air, but here we have an order to attack the steppes and fields. We lost almost all the equipment, many of our tankers fell - their blessed memory!

        We have just started mass production of light tanks, and already Spain 1936, where light armored vehicles showed themselves poorly, just the most massive T-26, after which their production was significantly reduced. BT is relatively good, but they also had flaws, especially the first models.

        T-26 could be used in fortifications, IMHO. Especially disguising as a forest area. But our "lines" in many places, due to a misunderstanding, were either nothing and no one to protect in the turmoil of the first days, or were bypassed by the Germans.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 18 November 2017 07: 51 New
    +6
    And then it began. Dolby us from all sides.
    Yeah ... most of the T-26s were lost in the first months of the war, mainly during shelling of enemy artillery and air strikes.
    1. hohol95
      hohol95 18 November 2017 23: 16 New
      +4
      You still forgot technical malfunctions and lack of fuel.
  3. lwxx
    lwxx 18 November 2017 08: 04 New
    +6
    It would be possible to try not to send tanks under fire, but to send foot reconnaissance - if only there were trained fighters capable of detecting German guns. It proves once again that with the army intelligence in the first months of the war it was, to put it mildly, not very. Well, we were going to fight on foreign territory and with little blood
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 18 November 2017 10: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: lwxx
      It proves once again that with the army intelligence in the first months of the war it was, to put it mildly, not very. Well, we were going to fight on foreign territory and with little blood

      The Red Army had reconnaissance units armed with light armored vehicles and amphibious tanks T-37 and T-38. http://militera.lib.ru/tw/kolomiets_mv/22.html
      “However, due to the fact that the industry could not make the required number of medium-sized armored vehicles on time, [255] the staffing of the reconnaissance battalions was rather slow. So, on March 1, 1938, the provision of equipment for reconnaissance battalions (ORB) of the infantry divisions was as follows:“ 25 orb - 100 %, 22 orb - 50-60%, 38 orb - only 1-4 pieces each to ensure study. ”

      By the beginning of World War II, there were three types of peacetime divisions in the composition of the infantry troops of the Red Army - standard, shortened and mountain. Armored vehicles were part of their intelligence units in the following quantities.
      The typical rifle division had an reconnaissance battalion with an armored company (frame) - 10 medium armored vehicles, 4 of which were radium. The armored company of the reconnaissance battalion of a small-scale rifle division consisted of only 4 medium armored cars, of which 1 was a radium one. [256]
      The mountain rifle division had a separate cavalry squadron with a platoon of 5 medium armored vehicles, of which 1 was a radium one. For all these states, the infantry divisions relied on BA-6 or BA-10, but often BA-27M, BAI-M, or BA-3M were used instead. "
      1. lwxx
        lwxx 18 November 2017 14: 03 New
        0
        Many words, but! in 1941 where was all the army intelligence? We had many parts of the offensive
        , and? Can you point out defense units as much as you want, and where were they in the summer of 1941? hi
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 21 November 2017 01: 16 New
          +4
          Have you even served urgently? And if they served, what part did you have: offensive or defense?
          Somehow, the sect of the rezun followers will not calm down. By the way, Rezun taunted Goering’s idea to use concrete for making steam locomotives. But in the thirties in the USSR, a draft mobilization tank was made of concrete with a 45 mm cannon and an armored frontal sheet. In this project, the tank received the designation T-34. But we did not refuse to study the possibility of using concrete in tank building. In 1942, the production of the T-34 from 15 mm armor was considered. But the essence was that between these sheets was supposed to be a layer of concrete. Despite the difficulties with the presence of 45 mm armor, the project was abandoned due to the complexity. But it’s a pity that the term “chobhem” would not have appeared, but the whole world would have used the term combined armor.
          Do not you think that concrete tanks are not the best way to advance? And the war (big) began only seven years later.
          1. lwxx
            lwxx 21 November 2017 03: 26 New
            +3
            And he served urgently, part of the rear support, 105 optmkt. And then the reason? If about the fact that we wanted to attack first, then by the cash register. I'm definitely not a fan of Mr. Suvorov. And for military intelligence, especially tactical in the first months of the war- In September 1941, in a memorandum to the USSR People’s Drug Defense, the head of the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (General Staff of the General Staff), Lieutenant General F.I. Golikov noted that military intelligence was unsatisfactory, and suggested that as a key measure to improve it, the general leadership of military intelligence should be assigned to the General Staff of the General Staff, and an appropriate department should be created in it1 (there were already military intelligence departments in the intelligence departments of the front and army headquarters). The war confirmed the correctness of Golikov’s proposal aimed at building the vertical of military intelligence from regiment headquarters to the General Staff of the General Staff.

            The bulk of the work on organizing military intelligence was carried out by the intelligence department of the front headquarters. His staff included the position of deputy head of the military intelligence department, to which the intelligence departments of the army headquarters (corps) and the intelligence department of the headquarters of individual units were subordinate. The network is a lot of information on this subject, search, study hi And by the way, about concrete tanks, there, too, is not so simple. They wanted to apply concrete in the beginning from the lack of high-quality metal, and only then how it turned out.
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 18 November 2017 16: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: lwxx
      It proves once again that with the army intelligence in the first months of the war it was, to put it mildly, not very. Well, we were going to fight on foreign territory and with little blood

      Yes, actually, with the total offensive of the Nazis, there was no time for intelligence. The troops were constantly confused, fell into boilers, retreat is a difficult matter, especially when the enemy has the initiative. We had a lot of misses in the organization .... without fraud in any way, otherwise to the wall. Therefore, before the winter, such terrible losses, in 42-43 they actually put new armies under arms - they only stopped, and then, on the order of "not a step back", the Fritzs were exhausted and spread over vast expanses. Oh, there would be those that Frunze, Uborevich, Primakov, Kuibyshev ..... and even royal experts like Shorin, Svechin, Kakurin. Then no Hitler would jerk at us.
  4. midshipman
    midshipman 18 November 2017 08: 40 New
    14
    He arrived in Novgorod in 1974 from Leningrad. Bought a car "Lada". This tank stood on the main square of the city. He was taken out of the lake. I saw people bow their heads as they walked by. And we came up, put on caps and saluted him. My daughter asked: "Dad, because this is not a military man, why do you salute him?" I replied: "Mashenka, this military man who defended our homeland." I have the honor.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 18 November 2017 13: 39 New
      +8
      This tank stood on the main square of the city.

      Yuri Grigoryevich, on one of the squares of Vyborg there is also a radial T-26 (with a handrail antenna), which was pulled out from the bottom of the Vyborg Bay in the 2010s. When the attack on Vyborg was in 1940, some units were thrown around the ice of the bay. The Finns opened fire, and this tank went to the bottom. The tank’s body was found in the tank, and it seems that they even established a personality .. Bright memory to him!
      In general, our Leningrad region is a solid memory of the war. In front of Kingisepp there is even a place where there was a firing point made on the basis of MS-1 (T-18). I didn’t even get to her .. True, there was only a foundation left.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 18 November 2017 23: 15 New
        +5
        A monument to the T-26 tank is also installed in Pitkäranta (Karelia)!
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 18 November 2017 23: 59 New
          +5
          Alexei, in our Leningrad region near the Nevsky Piglet there is a Museum of the blockade breakthrough. There is not only a panorama of a breakthrough, but also an exposition of equipment under the open sky. And half of the exhibits were taken from the bottom of the Neva! Ours tried to transfer the equipment to the "piggy", the Germans drowned it, then, already in the 2000s, our people got it. There are amphibious tanks, and several KV of different models (KV-2 not), T-26, BT-5, "duty" T-34-85 in the form of monuments on a pedestal. If you want, I can go, take a picture, describe. drinks The esteemed Michman can tell a lot about Svir during the war, his relatives fought there. hi
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 19 November 2017 00: 22 New
            +5
            Too bad the T-28 is not there! They were used on the Leningrad Front until 1944!
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 19 November 2017 00: 30 New
              +4
              no Unfortunately! request pre-war fought on Lenfront and BA, even there was only one BA-11, and "Izhora ersatz armored cars" good drinks
              1. hohol95
                hohol95 19 November 2017 00: 41 New
                +4
                On July 27, 1942, the 61st Tank Brigade had 64 tanks in two tank battalions (63 T-60 and 1 T-26) and 39 armored vehicles as part of a separate armored battalion (16 BA-20 and 23 BA-10). In this situation, the BA-10 forces outnumbered tanks and were the main firepower of the brigade.
                There were TWO separate armored battalions (OABB) - the 1st and 2nd.
                BA-11 and 1 armored car of the Izhora plant on the ZIS-6 chassis with a 45-mm gun. were in the 2nd obb! BA-11 lived to see the end of the war.
                On April 19, 1944, the 152nd Tank Brigade had 2 BA-10 and 1 BA-6.
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 19 November 2017 00: 44 New
                  +2
                  and in Leningrad, 2 separate armored car battalions, one of which reached Vyborg! By the way, this city and churchilli got a photo.
                  1. hohol95
                    hohol95 19 November 2017 00: 59 New
                    +2
                    And what was in Vyborg - in the book "Armor on Wheels" it is written that these armored battalions did not participate in the battles for Vyborg.
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado 19 November 2017 01: 48 New
                      +3
                      did not participate, but entered! who entered is unclear. I also refer to this book. good Perhaps this and some other part was, I could be wrong! hi drinks

                      I also took photos and information on D-8 for the last article from this book drinks
                      1. Mikado
                        Mikado 19 November 2017 01: 59 New
                        +2
                        and Svirin has a "churchill" photo in Vyborg (heaven be with him!) drinks
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 18 November 2017 13: 32 New
    11
    The T-26 Russian Vickers was an infantry support tank with a 45 mm gun. It was impossible to throw him at enemy tanks, but he could advance with his infantry and suppress enemy machine guns and mortars.
    So the Germans used numerous captured T-26s in 1941 and did not complain.
    The 45 mm gun in the 41st year was a luxury. The Germans had their tanks with a gulkin nose and wedges, much weaker than the T-26 among them - in bulk. In case of T-26 breakdowns, they threw (without spare parts).
    In total, the T-26 tanks in the Red Army were more than 10 thousand units.
    So not the tank was bad, but the tactics of its use.
    1. tasha
      tasha 18 November 2017 19: 32 New
      +3
      It was impossible to throw him at enemy tanks, but he could advance with his infantry and suppress enemy machine guns and mortars.

      After the creation of rapid-fire anti-tank guns, all tanks with bulletproof armor became outdated. It became clear back in Spain ...
      In your comment, much is debatable ...
    2. not main
      not main 18 November 2017 23: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Germans had their tanks with a gulkin nose and wedges, much weaker than the T-26 among them - in bulk.

      even so? Of course, everything is always more visible from Israel! And when you consider that the main tank of the Wehrmacht was the T-3, and the "Skoda", "Renault" and so on exceeded the licensed Vickers? I even agree with the tactics!
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 November 2017 11: 25 New
        +4
        The T-3 did not immediately become a full-fledged medium tank.
        On those tanks that attacked the USSR, there was a 37 mm short-barreled gun
        and 15 mm armor (compare with the T-26) Then the gun was placed 50 mm and the armor made 30 mm.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 November 2017 12: 04 New
          +4
          Self-correction: hi
          I was wrong. T-3 tanks that attacked the USSR (about 1000 pieces)
          were already with 30 mm of armor. At 1/4 (approximately) there was 37 gun, and at 3/4 - already 50 mm.
    3. Mikado
      Mikado 18 November 2017 23: 49 New
      +7
      but he could advance with his infantry and suppress enemy machine guns and mortars

      before the appearance of a full-fledged VET. The British quickly realized that the "Vickers six-ton" weak assistant, and began to make infantry tanks much more thick-armored.
      So not the tank was bad, but the tactics of its use.

      in the 44th year, the Finns broke through the defense of the Svir to the entire depth with minimal losses with the help of .. T-37 and T-38! But this was ensured by the fact that a lot of artillery was pulled into the site, several heavy SAPs in addition, which almost directly aimed from the coast, hollowed the Finnish defense. And when the infant tanks went on the attack across the river, and the infantry crossed, the Finns could not stop them, they simply would not succeed. But this is the 44th year, then there was already a lot of new technology, and the supply was good, and we learned to fight. Although the Finns were a very skilled and dangerous opponent in a particular theater of operations! hi
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 19 November 2017 00: 32 New
        +5
        Ancestor T-26 was created by Vickers for EXPORT only!
        And the British army itself was not used!
        But even their machines designed to accompany the infantry had, before the appearance of the Matild 1 and 2 and Valentine, bulletproof armor!
        In December 1941, the platoon commander Junior Lieutenant M. I. Yakovlev performed his feat on the T-26 tank, carrying out the task of supporting the attack of our infantry from the Kolpino area in the direction of Krasny Bor, Tosno.
        By the beginning of the operation to lift the blockade in January 1944, there were 1 T-220 tanks each in the 32st and 26th tank brigades of the Leningrad Front.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 19 November 2017 01: 35 New
          +3
          Ancestor T-26 was created by Vickers for EXPORT only!

          absolutely right! therefore, they were bought by Poles, Finns, Latin American countries. In terms of price-quality ratio.
          By the beginning of the operation to lift the blockade in January 1944, there were 1 T-220 tanks each in the 32st and 26th tank brigades of the Leningrad Front.

          and the last time these tanks were used in 1945, in landings in Korea against the Japanese. As far as I understand, they failed to participate in the battle, but they gave “weight” to our troops. But there they were used appropriately - the Japanese units were fragmented, partially demoralized, and the Japanese anti-tank movement was weak during the war. soldier in general, the very thing "to land and demoralize completely." hi
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 19 November 2017 16: 56 New
            +2
            Regarding the landing of 1945, I propose (if you have not read) -
            A. Polyansky “Living Gold Island. Ten percent of hope. Pamir legend "
            The first two works about the fighting on about. Sakhalin and landings on the islands of the Far East! There and T-26 fought on about. Sakhalin mentioned!
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 19 November 2017 00: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Mikado
        The British quickly realized that the "Vickers six-ton" weak assistant, and began to make infantry tanks much more thick-armored.

        Well, the British, at that time it means the beginning of the 30s, also rushed about, not knowing where to go. Vickers-E or Vickers 6-ton purely commercial project: "The development of a new light tank was complicated by the fact that the British army did not need it. At that time, the concept of the English mechanized units implied the use of heavy tanks (A1E1 Independent) as breakout vehicles that should were supporting medium tanks with cannon-machine gun weapons (Medium Tank Mk.I and Medium Tank Mk.II). The third “link” in this system was tankettes (Carden-Loyd Mk.VI). Light infantry support tanks like Renault FT in this there was simply no concept for the place. The development of the tank for export was a natural way out of the situation. " http://warspot.ru/7252-eksportnyy-bestseller Here is a link to a very interesting article about Vickers tanks and a Carden-Lloyd wedge. In fact, the Vickers 6ton tanks spread all over the world, but they were not needed in the English army. They did not fit into the concept of tank weapons of the English army. The development of a new light tank was complicated by the fact that the British army did not need it. At that time, the concept of the English mechanized units implied the use of heavy tanks (A1E1 Independent) as breakout vehicles that were supposed to support medium tanks with cannon-machine gun weapons (Medium Tank Mk.I and Medium Tank Mk.II). The third “link” in this system was wedges (Carden-Loyd Mk.VI). Light infantry support tanks like the Renault FT simply had no place in this concept. A natural way out of the situation was to develop a tank for export. http://warspot.ru/7252-eksportnyy-bestseller
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 19 November 2017 01: 42 New
          +2
          Light infantry support tanks like the Renault FT simply had no place in this concept.

          Nikolay, good evening! And in our weapons system there was no place for BT tanks, so they came up with a separate designation. The British perfectly understood that they were sitting on a separate cozy island, their economy and industry were good, and they were experimenting. And by the way, BTTs came to more or less tolerable models only towards the end of the war (Sherman Firefly, Comet)! And before the war .. they needed a fleet (more to protect the colonies) and aviation (less). So dozens of cruisers were built! request
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 19 November 2017 02: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Mikado
            Nikolay, good evening! And in our weapons system there was no place for BT tanks, so they came up with a separate designation. The British perfectly understood that they were sitting on a separate cozy island, their economy and industry were good, and they were experimenting.

            Namesake. We have morning already. This is your deep night. Now let me disagree. The division of tanks into cruising and infantry occurred after the Great Kiev Red Army maneuvers. The British carefully studied the course of these maneuvers, although they themselves were not present.
            "Artillery preparation, an infantry attack — an attack with tanks of direct infantry support, the launch of a group of long-range tanks and their support, the introduction of a cavalry mechanized group (2nd cavalry corps reinforced with tanks), a massive attack by the Reds’s aircraft were being worked out on the “blue” mobile group, the breakthrough by the horse-mechanized “blue” group of the hastily occupied defense of the “red” in depth, the preparation of the “red” counteroffensive on September 14. " This is from the memoirs of Marshal Eremenko. This is the moment when the T-26 tanks break through the defenses, and BT tanks (long-range tanks) are introduced into the breakthrough. This is what influenced the choice of dividing the tanks into classes in England. The 1936 Belarusian maneuvers only reinforced this opinion. If there were no British at the Kiev maneuvers, then they were at the Belorussian 1936.
            From the British Armed Forces United Kingdom: Commander of the 2nd Aldershot Division, General A. Wavell, representative of the General Staff Colonel Martell - a tank theoretician at that time, as well as Colonel Wiglesworth;
    4. hohol95
      hohol95 19 November 2017 00: 52 New
      +2
      The T-26 is a light infantry tank, or a light infantry escort tank.
      The escort tank in the classic version is a machine-gun version of the T-26.
      With a 45 mm cannon, he became a fighter tank with bulletproof armor and low speed!
      But some T-26s survived many relatives - both the British Vickers in China and the Polish 7TP, German (Czechoslovak) Pz.35 (t).
      For information - runaways on about. Formosa in 1949, the soldiers of Chiang Kai-shek took with them the remaining combat-ready T-26s (the USSR delivered 82 T-26 tanks to China)!
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 19 November 2017 02: 13 New
        +1
        For information - runaways on about. Formosa in 1949, the soldiers of Chiang Kai-shek took with them the remaining combat-ready T-26s (the USSR delivered 82 T-26 tanks to China)!

        An interesting Chinese film is “Signal to Collect” (or “In the Name of Honor”) about the struggle of the Communists against the Kuomintang at the last stage after WWII. It just shows the American tanks used by Chiang Kai-shek's army. drinks
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 19 November 2017 17: 02 New
          +2
          The Kuomintang army also had more modern light M3 / M5 “Stuarts” and medium M4 “Sherman”!
          BUT they did NOT DROP T-26 and evacuated to about. Taiwan (Formosa) the remaining tanks of this type!

          Tank T-26 of the Army of the Republic of China in Taiwan. 1951 (c) blog.xuite.net
  6. Monarchist
    Monarchist 18 November 2017 19: 16 New
    +3
    This Drabkin has a great cycle: "I fought", but he has only about "donkeys". How much courage was needed to fight with him with a mustache on Me109!
    Now I remembered the topic: Abakumov "Unknown War in the Sky of North Korea", I recommend- THING. Personally, I was stupid when I read. It is available in electronic version and in the public domain.
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist 18 November 2017 19: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: Novel 11
    Quote: lwxx
    It proves once again that with the army intelligence in the first months of the war it was, to put it mildly, not very. Well, we were going to fight on foreign territory and with little blood

    Yes, actually, with the total offensive of the Nazis, there was no time for intelligence. The troops were constantly confused, fell into boilers, retreat is a difficult matter, especially when the enemy has the initiative. We had a lot of misses in the organization .... without fraud in any way, otherwise to the wall. Therefore, before the winter, such terrible losses, in 42-43 they actually put new armies under arms - they only stopped, and then, on the order of "not a step back", the Fritzs were exhausted and spread over vast expanses. Oh, there would be those that Frunze, Uborevich, Primakov, Kuibyshev ..... and even royal experts like Shorin, Svechin, Kakurin. Then no Hitler would jerk at us.

    What's true is true
  8. Snoop
    Snoop 6 January 2018 13: 40 New
    +1
    I read an interview with a veteran on the I Remember website, I don’t remember my last name, he also fought on the T-26. He started the war from the very beginning. In the first battle, he knocked out a Pz-III, which caught fire. But the second treshka at the next moment knocked out his tank. He himself wondered how the three of them quickly jumped out of the ignited tank and remained alive.