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US general: Trump's nuclear strike order can be ignored

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The US military has the right not to execute the president’s “illegal order” on a nuclear strike, former head of the US Strategic Command Robert Koehler told the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee at the hearing. The words of a retired general leads The Guardian.


US general: Trump's nuclear strike order can be ignored


The military is obliged to follow legal orders, but is not obliged to execute illegal
Said Köhler. He clarified that such a situation is possible if the Strategic Command considers that the White House made a premature decision that does not correspond to the nature of the threat.

Köhler, however, spoke out against limiting the powers of the president in the area of ​​national security, since such a move, in his opinion, could adversely affect the country's defense capability.

The hearings in the Foreign Relations Committee are taking place against the background of the aggravation of the North Korean crisis and the active development of the nuclear program by Pyongyang. Some senators consider it necessary to limit the powers of the president, in particular to forbid him to make a single decision on a preventive nuclear strike. As explained by a member of the Democratic Party, Chris Murphy, lawmakers fear the "impulsiveness" and "inconsistency" of the commander in chief, reports RIA News
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  1. Muvka
    Muvka 15 November 2017 19: 08
    +3
    Well, actually, ours work in the same way. The decision on a nuclear strike should not and cannot be taken by one person. I do not see the point in the news.
    1. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 15 November 2017 19: 13
      +6
      Quote: Muvka
      I do not see the point in the news.

      And I see, the military junta in the USA is planned, not Trump .. And those who lost, the team of the witch Hillary!
      And we need to be prepared for any scenario ..! If Trump can stand it, he will squeeze all of these to the nail (Putin will help him in this, he has a lot of experience ..))
      1. stas
        stas 15 November 2017 19: 18
        +9
        In American it turns out - I want to hit I want not to hit.
        This is dangerous, in the same way the military may not fulfill the president’s order not to use nuclear weapons.
        1. Going
          Going 15 November 2017 20: 07
          14
          They from Trump make the Queen of England, let's see how he will react.
          1. Pirogov
            Pirogov 15 November 2017 21: 00
            +3
            Quote: Going
            They from Trump make the Queen of England, let's see how he will react.

            Any American president, American queen, and Trump is also a showman.
          2. askme
            askme 16 November 2017 01: 17
            0
            It is good that they themselves admit everything in advance. The CIA and Pentagon, therefore, are subordinate only to the hereditary financial aristocracy, which is always in the background, and no one else. You need to knit them all. Like the most dangerous maniacs, with all the signs of rebellion. It remains only to decide on those who will knit, at worst, who will let all the conspirators shoot a bullet in the forehead ...
        2. In100gram
          In100gram 15 November 2017 20: 25
          +1
          Quote: stas
          It turns out in American way - I want to hit I want to not hit

          It's five"! You can send the Commander on foot erotic journey. It looks like a throw-in, or preparation for the "throw" of their preza. I think soon we will learn about the new resignations at the Pentagon
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 15 November 2017 23: 21
            +3
            Quote: In100gram
            You can send the Commander on foot erotic journey.

            Well, here it is ... A system of "checks and balances." In case of, for example, insanity "first person", "protection from the fool." And it’s a shame to get it - one has been pinched, and billions have evaporated and incinerated.
            1. In100gram
              In100gram 15 November 2017 23: 56
              +1
              Quote: Paranoid50
              In case of, for example, insanity "first person", "protection from the fool"

              And who will install this "insanity"? No wonder the post of vice preza is established. Oh no wonder .... And who will establish the diagnosis? Who is the first "diagnosis" crowing? Explicitly prepare a "straw".
      2. 210ox
        210ox 15 November 2017 19: 20
        +8
        What are they all bold, these "aks." And the Supreme is not a decree to them. And in the service everyone was tiptoeing..And though .. But who is Trump?
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        Quote: Muvka
        I do not see the point in the news.

        And I see, the military junta in the USA is planned, not Trump .. And those who lost, the team of the witch Hillary!
        And we need to be prepared for any scenario ..! If Trump can stand it, he will squeeze all of these to the nail (Putin will help him in this, he has a lot of experience ..))
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 15 November 2017 19: 57
          +6
          Quote: 210ox
          What are they all bold, these "aks." And the Supreme is not a decree for them

          Yes Dmitry hi Ex he is in America ex, that is, a downed pilot, he can tryndet anything, but who will listen to him. request hi
          1. Krabik
            Krabik 15 November 2017 22: 05
            0
            So we have a "zrada" for each exhaust eksov.
    2. Monos
      Monos 15 November 2017 19: 15
      +7
      Quote: Muvka
      He clarified that a similar situation is possible if the Strategic Command considers that the White House has made a premature decision that does not correspond to the nature of the threat.

      Have you seriously written this now? M-yes ... And what do people who have no idea about the decision-making mechanism do at VO? You should be bored here ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 15 November 2017 19: 19
        +1
        Well enlighten us. Since you know so much.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 15 November 2017 19: 22
          +2
          Quote: Muvka
          Well enlighten us. Since you know so much.

          How would you like to use this information, Mr. Major?
          No, it's not a typo, lieutenant ... smile
        2. Monos
          Monos 15 November 2017 19: 43
          +6
          Quote: Muvka
          Well enlighten us. Since you know so much.

          The difference is that we have order They cannot ignore the Supreme. They just won’t give it. You only need to know this.
        3. Cutter
          Cutter 15 November 2017 23: 04
          +2
          Quote: Muvka
          Well enlighten us. Since you know so much.

          Probably I will not educate ... I won’t become Lunacharsky ... (if you know who it is, although it is unlikely). Do you know more ???? I doubt it ...
      2. poquello
        poquello 15 November 2017 19: 21
        +4
        Quote: Monos
        Quote: Muvka
        He clarified that a similar situation is possible if the Strategic Command considers that the White House has made a premature decision that does not correspond to the nature of the threat.

        Have you seriously written this now? M-yes ... And what do people who have no idea about the decision-making mechanism do at VO? You should be bored here ...

        cards, dice, five coins - are we bombing or not bombing?
    3. hrych
      hrych 15 November 2017 19: 20
      +6
      Quote: Muvka
      I see no point in the news

      The point is that the retired dog, the six of the old team, is once again trying to bite the President with a toothless mouth.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 15 November 2017 20: 08
        +3
        Hi friend! hi drinks
        Quote: hrych
        trying to bite the President with a toothless mouth.

        A bite will not bite, but will suck to death. belay
        1. hrych
          hrych 15 November 2017 20: 24
          +2
          Good evening! drinks
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Bite won't bite, but suck to death

          Exactly wassat There is a scandal in Hollywood, they say, the fat Weinstein of all the movie stars posted, Kevin Spacey began the theme of rear-wheel drive. We, Pavel, know with you that nothing just happens. Hollywood with these divas, declared war on Trump, and he showed (his PR specialists) that all of them had a loose pudding for the sake of roles laughing After all, the election was lost not by Clinton, but by her urinal wassat Information war however hi
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 15 November 2017 20: 28
            +3
            This circus with Hollywood has just begun - it will be even more fun later on, I have no doubt. In general, I am in this bank with spiders, called Matrasia, everything comes from excessive freedom. wink
    4. Cutter
      Cutter 15 November 2017 22: 59
      +1
      [quote] [I do not see the point in the news. / quote]
      There's no point? Well, ladies ... I’ll go, I’ll tell the guys so that they don’t strain to train together, THERE IS NO SENSE !!!!!!
    5. Cat Marquis
      Cat Marquis 16 November 2017 06: 19
      +1
      I do not see the point in the news.


      Well, why doesn’t it make sense. “The point” is to “once again” show those to whom it is “balm,” they say, President Trump is a dummy, a talking doll, no one counts with him, etc. Some people like that.
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  3. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 15 November 2017 19: 09
    +2
    Trump is the "wedding general" ... But I hope Putin has time to send a signal! soldier
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 12
      +6
      Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
      But I hope Putin has time to send a signal!

      signal flare?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 November 2017 19: 13
        +5
        Angel_and_Demon
        signal flare?
        No, they’ll bring it on a bicycle. repeat
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 16
          +8
          Quote: Observer2014
          No, they’ll bring it on a bicycle.

          teletype bicycle - did not hear request
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 15 November 2017 19: 19
            +4
            Angel_and_Demon
            teletype bicycle - did not hear
            What do you want? This is not for you. Among other things. And in general, for what purpose are you interested in? bully
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 23
              +8
              Quote: Observer2014
              What do you want? This is not for you. Among other things. And in general, for what purpose are you interested in?

              and you?
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 15 November 2017 19: 26
                +4
                [b] Angel_and_Demon [/ b
                ]and you?
                Only very ill-educated people answer the question, question, question repeat laughing
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                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 15 November 2017 19: 50
                    +5
                    Angel_and_Demon
                    you want to say that I got something wrong?
                    The times today are such that even a bulb (potato) can be genetically modified to such an extent that ... Maybe in general, anything. belay
                    1. Angel_and_Demon
                      Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 56
                      +7
                      Quote: Observer2014
                      Maybe anything.

                      yeah, philosophy however recourse
                      1. Vanek
                        Vanek 16 November 2017 12: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                        philosophy however


                        Karoche - unpromising ... recourse

                        - Comrade Warrant Officer. Can we fuck it?*

                        DMB *
                    2. Vanek
                      Vanek 16 November 2017 12: 08
                      +1
                      Quote: Observer2014
                      Maybe anything.


                      Everything can be and everything can be. And only that cannot be, which cannot be at all.*
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          2. sabakina
            sabakina 15 November 2017 20: 30
            +4
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            teletype bicycle - did not hear request

            Victor, I don’t understand, if you have fallen behind life, you have surpassed it ... recourse
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 20: 37
              +7
              Quote: sabakina
              You are behind life, roofing felts surpassed it ...

              probably overtook laughing
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 15 November 2017 20: 48
                +5
                Mdyayaya, probably, it is even worse than I was too much ... wink
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  4. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 10
    +9
    Hearings in the Committee on Foreign Relations are held against the backdrop of an exacerbation of the North Korean crisis and the active development of the nuclear program in Pyongyang. Some senators consider it necessary to limit the powers of the president, in particular, prohibit him to single-handedly decide on a preventive nuclear strike. As Democratic Party member Chris Murphy explained, lawmakers fear the “impulsiveness” and “inconstancy” of the commander in chief,

    Interesting - but will soon bring a doghouse to the white house for a rafter?
  5. ded100
    ded100 15 November 2017 19: 11
    +3
    Trump is a dummy as you would expect!
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 November 2017 19: 16
    +3
    And they, in Matrasia, in general, have a supreme commander ...?
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 15 November 2017 19: 49
      11
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And they, in Matrasia, in general, have a supreme commander ...?
      Yes
  7. raid14
    raid14 15 November 2017 19: 23
    +1
    Fear of his "impulsiveness" and "inconstancy.
    An understandable solution, especially after his order, to hit the Tomahawks in Syria.
  8. Eurodav
    Eurodav 15 November 2017 19: 30
    +1
    And the American military have an idea which order is illegal? What difference do they feel / know?
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 15 November 2017 19: 41
      +1
      When the command of the combat command comes, the commander of the seamen does not have where he shoots. The main thing for him is to ensure the launch of a rocket. But who sends this command is a question how they solve there
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 15 November 2017 19: 42
      +4
      Quote: Evrodav
      What difference do they feel / know?

      Execute if they know that the return will not follow, and do not fulfill if they feel that they will receive in response wink smile
  9. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 15 November 2017 19: 53
    +5
    Scatter and reels in a star-striped state. It would not even enter my head not to execute an order from above. And who will decide whether to launch a vigorous loaf or not? Not the performers in any way.
    The former carries too much snowstorm.
  10. sir_obs
    sir_obs 15 November 2017 19: 56
    +6
    at our brigade we were conducting exercises somehow on psychological stability, they sent (allegedly) a dispatch to the boat that was watching the Aug in the Greenland Sea. Well, the commander of bch4 during a communication session, replaced according to a previously agreed scheme the tape from the Shark, which was "accepted" at the communication session and gave it for decryption, 0. The shaman (decoder) will split this case under the control of the deputy. And the text is like that, the war began with the use of nuclear weapons, and therefore destroy the AUG using this nuclear weapons in the form of two torpedoes.
    That this teaching was known only to the commander of the ship and the commander of the bch4.
    And nothing, the roof didn’t go off from anyone, no one refused to shoot and didn’t fall into a stupor after a couple of days, they announced that it was a teaching and the base, And there are already psychologists, well, different there.
    Everyone remained sane.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 15 November 2017 21: 22
      +1
      We really hope that among the men with stability everything will be normal and they will cling to the vigorous club of the Yankees, with the gay men in addition, if necessary, without any mental torment.
    2. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 16 November 2017 05: 14
      +1
      Quote: sir_obs
      And nothing, the roof didn’t go off from anyone, nobody refused to shoot and didn’t fall into a stupor in a couple of days, they announced that it was a doctrine and base

      Those. AUG drowned, and a couple of days later they said that the teachings? laughing
      We had a case. A torpedo attack was practiced on the simulator. The calculation was led by my friend. We determined the EDC, prepared the data, entered the torpedo, but entered the angle with the opposite sign. And now the comrade understands that he was mistaken somewhere, but where, he still did not understand, and time is running out ... In short:
      - First, second torpedo tubes, tov!
      - There is a tov!
      - First second! Pli!
      - Got it! The torpedoes went out, fighting on the spot ...
      And then it dawned on a comrade that they had entered the corner of the wrong side and said, "Set aside!"
      We all lay down with laughter. Then he was jabbed for a long time, "Oh, not pli, not pli ...".
  11. rruvim
    rruvim 15 November 2017 20: 27
    0
    Murphy himself is "impulsive" and "fickle." Judging by his lawyer practice ... "Substantiated" by Vanya Liebermann, now he has become the president.
  12. Sergey53
    Sergey53 15 November 2017 20: 37
    +1
    NOW this is called democracy in the USA, but in general it is anarchy. THE SAME "DEMOCRACY AND IN \ IN UKRAINE.
  13. VadimSt
    VadimSt 15 November 2017 20: 41
    +1
    Again, Russia is to blame. It’s all the fault of our saying, introduced by the method of information war - “Meli Emelya, your week”!
  14. kefan
    kefan 15 November 2017 21: 06
    +1
    There is nothing to put in the old man’s mattress.
  15. Essex62
    Essex62 15 November 2017 21: 17
    +1
    What Trump, what Pentagon and Congress? Such a decision can only be made by the advice of the sages, unless of course these scorpions can endure each other in one bank (room). Uncle Rockefeller, like Grandfather Morgan, does not smile at all to live the rest of his days in a bunker, albeit a very comfortable one.
    Someone showman, or a brave warrior, will entrust such a function. As long as they can’t escape from planet Earth and have nothing to sleep on (unless of course they paid taxes). wink laughing
  16. rruvim
    rruvim 15 November 2017 21: 58
    0
    Quote: kefan
    There is nothing to put in the old man’s mattress.

    They put. By bitcoin. Will there be an “impeachment” or not? fellow
  17. tv70
    tv70 16 November 2017 03: 48
    0
    Do not rush to fulfill the order, for soon another will follow, repealing the previous one. Many remember, no?
  18. Shukshin
    Shukshin 16 November 2017 04: 03
    0
    Keyword retired. Fake news.
  19. bk316
    bk316 16 November 2017 18: 48
    +2
    And so I see the picture: the captain of the Ohio receives an order to launch all the missiles. He looks at the start-up and says: “they’re like my love, they’ve got fucked up in the white house, they’ll drown us after the third, but letting go, we decided that we wouldn’t execute the illegal order”

    Trump - well, to hell with you I will give the Air Force order. The B-2 commander receives an order and tells the navigator: "estimate the line of attack! 500 km inside the Russian Federation? Are they really that, we really are invisible, but come on, the confirmation of the qualified majority of the Congress, the Senate Arms Commission and in person is required Senator McCain

    Trump gets upset and calls the control center of the ground component of the strategic nuclear forces, and there they DO NOT TAKE A PIPE.

    After 10 minutes of waiting, the shelter sighs and goes to write in its facebook how it will betray the sword and fire of all the enemies of OMERICA!