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BDK "Ivan Gren" completes factory running tests

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On the large landing ship "Ivan Gren" checks are completed on the program of factory tests. The latter were carried out checks of the communications complex and products of the information management system of the ship. Prior to this, the work of the artillery complex, maneuverable elements, broadcast systems and others was verified, according to the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Russian Defense Ministry


BDK "Ivan Gren" completes factory running tests


BDK project 11711 is the development of large landing ships of project 1171, which have proven themselves over decades of service on navy. However, most of the design has undergone major changes.

The large landing ships of the 11711 project will be armed with AK-176М and AK-630М universal naval artillery mounts. Also, to hit the coastal targets and support the landing force, the BDK is equipped with two ship installations of the A-215 Grad-M multiple launch rocket system with a range of about 20 km. On the deck of the BDK, a single Ka-27 search and rescue helicopter or a Ka-29 transport and combat helicopter is based.

Project 11711 ships will be able to take on board up to 13 units of heavy equipment (tanks) or up to 36 infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers, as well as the personnel of the air assault units.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 15 November 2017 12: 50 New
    +5
    Finally! Less than .. how many years? Twenty?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 November 2017 12: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      Finally!

      If the yachts were not built for Abramovich and Waxelberg, then there would be enough of these BDKs ... Only now WOULD interferes!
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 15 November 2017 14: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        If the yachts were not built for Abramovich and Waxelberg, then there would be a sufficient number of these BDKs ... But it WOULD interfere!

        Well, whoever pays, he orders the music (BDK or yachts). MO has much less money than Abramovich. But Abramovich pays taxes to the treasury the same 13% as I do.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 15 November 2017 14: 17 New
          +4
          And in rubles, tell you the difference? From your 13% and from him.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 15 November 2017 14: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Muvka
            And in rubles, tell you the difference? From your 13% and from him.

            You better show the difference between mine and his "salary". How much is being taken from me, and how much is from him.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 15 November 2017 15: 42 New
              +3
              Here. you answered yourself. Roughly speaking, with your salary of 100 rubles, you pay 13 rubles, and he pays 100000 rubles, 13000. If 13 and 13000 are the same for you, I feel sorry for you. And envy is a very harmful feeling.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 15 November 2017 16: 21 New
                +1
                Quote: Muvka
                Here. you answered yourself. Roughly speaking, with your salary of 100 rubles, you pay 13 rubles, and he pays 100000 rubles, 13000. If 13 and 13000 are the same for you, I feel sorry for you. And envy is a very harmful feeling.

                If he raises billions from his national status, and pays for it pathetic millions, then he will end up with the same billions, and I have hundreds of my own.
              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 16 November 2017 07: 29 New
                +4
                Insolent lies. From "their" 100 rubles, a simple person pays: 13 rubles PN, 33 rubles of social tax in pension and medical funds. And we don’t need to lie that the Owner of any private enterprise will pay these 33 rubles “out of pocket”, always and everywhere it is paid from the amount spent on wages of workers !! One of my past employers, who paid us “in envelopes,” once gathered for our grumbling about “gray salary,” and just said so “you want to get in white, no question, every person transferred to a white salary will get a third less” . fool How much do you wish for such "happiness"? The answer is only one, it was a woman who in a year had to apply for a pension, and ALL the rest "modestly refused."
                P now about "the same Abramovich" - he will pay 13% of legal income in Russia, but if he receives the income as "dividends on shares", then ONLY 9% am . That is, a miner, a driller, a driver, and even a helicopter pilot in his factories will pay 46% of the taxes for the Arctic Circle, while Abromovich will be taxing for the curlers, for Nice, and only 9% cut through the warm waters of his yacht cruiser ?! !! am am
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 15 November 2017 16: 18 New
            +6
            Quote: Muvka
            And in rubles, tell you the difference? From your 13% and from him.

            You indicate better how much is left after that! Then we’ll see that one has everything, and the other has nothing.
            Quote: Muvka
            And envy is a very harmful feeling.

            Highly. A state in which most people experience a keen sense of injustice due to social inequality cannot be strong.
      2. St Petrov
        St Petrov 15 November 2017 14: 14 New
        +4
        If yachts were not built for Abramovich and Wakselberg, then there would be a sufficient number of these BDKs ..


        How is this interconnected? BDK and the yacht? Yacht took a place at the shipyard? belay Or is the fleet having a lack of money?

        If not for a private yacht, would our fleet be huge?
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 15 November 2017 14: 37 New
          +4
          Do you not understand the essence of the matter?
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 15 November 2017 14: 43 New
            +3
            I ask just about the essence and tell. only without slogans about take away and divide.

            If yachts were not built for Abramovich and Waxelberg, then there would be a sufficient number of these BDKs


            How is that at all? That is, if there weren’t Abramovich and the second character, would you live in paradise and would the BDK bake like pies?)

            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 15 November 2017 15: 00 New
              +6
              In the USSR there were no Abromovichs and there were no yachts, but there was a powerful Soviet ocean fleet.
              PS And now the alligarchs are divided, to whom the yachts, and to whom the BDK. hi
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 15 November 2017 15: 09 New
                +1
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                In the USSR there were no Abromovichs and there were no yachts, but there was a powerful Soviet ocean fleet.

                Well, now pull the feathers from the tail. Yes, it was, but it has already passed. And now these Abramovichs rule.
                1. Uncle lee
                  Uncle lee 15 November 2017 15: 13 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  these are Abramovich’s rule.

                  And they navy to the bulb. Fly on their yachts to London.
                  Further mat, mat, and rewind. !
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 15 November 2017 15: 17 New
                    +3
                    How is Abramovich related to BDK? He decides what to build, BDK or a yacht? All the same, I can’t understand your promises.

                    How many yachts were built in Yantar? Maybe they interfered with the construction of the BDK?
                    1. Uncle lee
                      Uncle lee 15 November 2017 15: 26 New
                      +4
                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      How is Abramovich related to BDK?

                      According to the law of conservation. If someone arrived (yacht), then someone departed (BDK).
              2. St Petrov
                St Petrov 15 November 2017 15: 13 New
                +6
                In the USSR there were no Abromovichs and there were no yachts


                but enough clowns! they came together and the USSR was over! Do you think these are few? The main thing is not to get into their ranks and everything will be fine.

                1. Uncle lee
                  Uncle lee 15 November 2017 15: 20 New
                  +4
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  but enough clowns!

                  Clowns are full of always and everywhere! The main thing is not to let them out of the circus to the people!
                  And think with your own head, and not buy into other people's promises! hi
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 15 November 2017 15: 24 New
                    +1
                    drinks I agree with you
                    1. Uncle lee
                      Uncle lee 15 November 2017 15: 33 New
                      +4
                      drinks Mutually! Now everything is decided by money. And it’s not the state that decides what to build, the BDK or Abramovich decided to build a superyacht for himself and Chelsea will play football on it .... But the BDK and other ships are up to him.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 15 November 2017 16: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: c-Petrov
          How is this interconnected? BDK and the yacht? Yacht took a place at the shipyard?

          Everything is very simple! The money from the oligarchs, and the money for the BDK are taken from one pocket, called the Russian economy. If the oligarch has a yacht, then there is no BDK. There is a BDK - the oligarch does not have a yacht.
          Quote: c-Petrov
          That is, if there were no Abramovich and the second character, would you live in paradise and would the BDK bake like pies?)

          Yes ... that was a wonderful time! The happy Soviet past was called. And BDK baked like cakes!
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 15 November 2017 17: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        If yachts were not built for Abramovich and Waxelberg, then there would be a sufficient number of these BDKs ...

        And icebreakers of different classes, for what money are we building fast enough? There is a rearmament program, and the desire of the Moscow Region to purchase these or those ships.
        Ivan Gren is essentially obsolete, like the excrement of a mammoth. In your opinion, why did we order two Mistral from the French? And technology to slam and get a modern UDC. And Grena began to be finished when the French showed us where to go with the order on the Mistral.
        At the same time, it is not clear why the destroyer Leader is not being laid down, given that the YaSU RITM-200 is ALREADY standing on the new Arctic icebreaker.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 16 November 2017 01: 47 New
          +4
          I'm talking about the BDK, and not specifically about Gren. What plant will be built in B. Kamen? BDK or fleet for platform maintenance? So it turns out that they are building for the Abramovichi, and the Navy on the residual principle. hi
    2. wildgluk
      wildgluk 15 November 2017 12: 57 New
      0
      Only ten) and even there with a ramp jamb xs when done
    3. Going
      Going 15 November 2017 12: 58 New
      +7
      Tortured, but let's hope all conclusions are made.
    4. Burbon
      Burbon 15 November 2017 13: 09 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Finally! Less than .. how many years? Twenty?

      )) .. that's when there will be an article that he was accepted into the fleet - will be 20 years old))
    5. - = ANTRAX = -
      - = ANTRAX = - 16 November 2017 05: 39 New
      0
      roasted rooster just pecked.
  2. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 15 November 2017 12: 56 New
    +3
    The end of August 2017, the Amber plant ... The sides are pulled together with cables ..
    1. next322
      next322 15 November 2017 13: 08 New
      +3
      the ship is on the next demagnetization, of which countless were at the green
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 15 November 2017 13: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      The sides are pulled together with cables.

      CABLE it, not cables!
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 15 November 2017 15: 02 New
        +1
        People, I'm not special. laughing I saw it with my own eyes ... It looked like a net of "rusty" cables .. Tugboats were twisted in the harbor in front of the factory .. But, in general, I go fishing there laughing
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 15 November 2017 15: 11 New
      0
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      The end of August 2017, the Amber plant ... The sides are pulled together with cables ..

      Yeah, with ropes, scotch tape and Moment glue.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 15 November 2017 20: 21 New
        +1
        She, Dude .... I saw him with my own eyes, and more than once ... when I was still standing at the wall .. And what you saw in your life .., I wrote already. I'm not special
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 15 November 2017 19: 55 New
      +1
      Actually the main reason for the delay at 1,5 of the year. The windings were counted incorrectly. As a result, he did not go through physical fields. I had to tear out the windings and stretch again throughout the ship.
  3. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 15 November 2017 12: 59 New
    0
    The difficult birth of a child, the difficult ...
    God grant that all the shortcomings and shortcomings are run on this ship, and the rest in the series went already without childhood diseases.
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 15 November 2017 13: 12 New
      +4
      There, of the remaining in the series, only Morguns. The Moscow Region believes that two BDKs for four fleets are quite enough.
      If all childhood diseases are removed from this project, this does not mean that only virtues will remain. It is possible that nothing will remain of the ship at all.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 15 November 2017 14: 19 New
        +1
        At least on the SF BDK to anything. In general, in addition to these two, we have other BDKs. + restore the production of BISONs.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 15 November 2017 14: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Muvka
          At least on the SF BDK to anything.

          and the marines are not needed there either?
          Quote: Muvka
          In general, in addition to these two, we have other BDKs.
          yeah, the youngest of which was built in 91
          Quote: Muvka
          restore the production of BISONs.

          some plans so far, and this is a small ship, with a small range and autonomy
  4. next322
    next322 15 November 2017 13: 05 New
    +2
    it’s slipperyly written ...... it’s possible to complete running tests, and a couple more years ..... and then the state tests begin, and the famous frigate is an example of such tests
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 15 November 2017 13: 06 New
    +4
    Is this really going to happen. A long-suffering person will join the systematic work of the Russian Navy. You can exhale.
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 15 November 2017 13: 14 New
      +1
      What happened? After ZHI there will be still GHI. Maybe in a year or so they will be part of the fleet.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 15 November 2017 13: 17 New
        +4
        I did not write "done."
  6. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 15 November 2017 13: 13 New
    0
    They have been waiting for him !!!
  7. Neputin
    Neputin 15 November 2017 13: 43 New
    +5
    Nothing but sarcasm, such news no longer cause. No joy, no pride, no patriotism, ..... nothing. Tired of the "successes" of our shipbuilding. If only they would be ashamed.
    1. turbris
      turbris 15 November 2017 14: 55 New
      +1
      But do not want to still be glad that the ship took place, without sarcasm? A lot of critics divorced who lost joy, pride and patriotism.
      1. Neputin
        Neputin 15 November 2017 22: 55 New
        +2
        Tired of rejoicing when not at all joyful ....
  8. exo
    exo 15 November 2017 15: 29 New
    0
    Private bulk carrier, but better than nothing. It would be better if the project 1174 was reanimated, having processed it well.
    1. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 15 November 2017 16: 53 New
      +1
      1174 destroyed GTU of the Nikolaev plant. "Moskalenko" "died" due to the fact that they could not extend the resource. It is a pity that history does not tolerate the word "if", but now they are sorely missed in the "Syrian Express."
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 15 November 2017 19: 52 New
      +1
      1174 is still a "freak" - in the sense of exploitation. The resource is small. Exit Cost - Equated to BOD. The working conditions of the aviation group are terrible. Living conditions are terrible. Well, etc.

      Even the ultra-budget Makassar - by capacity +/-, by the aviation group and tolerances is much better (a large forage platform for 2-3 cars), by its habitability is clearly better, by resource and combat readiness it is extremely better (design 260 days a year - diesel there customer at least MTU, at least Vyartsila, even Chinese).

      And this is by no means the best DKVD. Just an affordable ship for 50 million dollars and 1.5 of the year of construction in Indonesia or Peru.
      1. Sasha_Sar
        Sasha_Sar 16 November 2017 11: 44 New
        +1
        For three years at “Moskalenko” I had to serve as a battalion commander for 93-96 years. Yes, the output is a little expensive. One turbine in 1 hour consumed a ton of solarium, plus 2 diesel-powered diesel generators from Kolomna "eat up". But living conditions at that time were not bad. But we must understand that 1174 was built under our latitudes, where sometimes it fell for -35С. Can Makassar walk in the Barents Sea? Moskal could land on an un-equipped coast, and also land and land marine corps on a raid. The helicopter pads are the same two. In the hangar (I can be mistaken) up to 6 Ka-29 helicopters. Up to 44 tanks in a tank hold. But his resource is not so hot, "gluttony" and this is his trouble. I agree that 1174 is not a control ship like the Mistral. In 94 exercises, 12 admirals with the headquarters of the squadron and navy took aboard at the exercises (CSF gathering campaign). The officers had to sleep m / d on shifts and alarms at their checkpoints. After serving on TFR pr. 50, Moskal was a paradise.
  9. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 15 November 2017 16: 49 New
    0
    "BDK project 11711 is the development of large landing ships of project 1171." Nonsense. 1171 "Krasnaya Presnya", "Donetsk Miner", the same "Saratov" is a converted "timber truck". What do they have in common? Is the first four digits ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 15 November 2017 19: 42 New
      0
      Original idea. Cheap BDK - with the unification of which there will still be commerce (at the beginning of the design, at the peak of conversion - it was just fashionable to break through such projects)

      Then nothing.
  10. Nemesis
    Nemesis 16 November 2017 03: 59 New
    0
    This (joke) dragged on nowhere now ... When will this ship be finally brought to mind and transferred to the fleet?