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Kuzmuk: To capture the Donbass, you need to destroy Donetsk and Lugansk

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Ukrainian army to capture the Donbass will have to wipe out the Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and all other major cities in the region. About this in an interview with television channel ZIK, said the general of the Ukrainian army, the former Minister of Defense Alexander Kuzmuk.


By the way, they (Donbas militia) have a very good discipline. They don’t wait for courts and sentences; everything is decided according to martial law. However, the Ukrainian army can still reach the border with Russia. We can do this in terms of potential and power, but we will have to erase Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities from the face of the earth.
- said Kuzmuk.

Kuzmuk: To capture the Donbass, you need to destroy Donetsk and Lugansk


He added that when attempting to carry out such military operations there will be many civilian casualties.

Imagine how you can storm Donetsk - this is impossible. I can even in the studio develop and substantiate a plan for de-occupation of Donbass, but for the same reasons it cannot be completed
- noted the general.

On November 13, the commander of the Troy special forces detachment of the armed forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Vladimir Alabai Novikov, stated that in the near future, the Ukrainian army could launch an offensive along the administrative border of the Donbas republics towards the Russian border. According to him, 70-80 thousands of people concentrated on the contact line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The armed conflict in the Donbass began in the spring of 2014, after an attempt by new Kiev authorities to suppress by force appearances in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. The parties have repeatedly announced a truce, but still completely failed to stop the fighting, reports "Lenta.ru"
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  1. hrych
    hrych 14 November 2017 17: 37 New
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    Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer
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      1. Logall
        Logall 14 November 2017 18: 13 New
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        Quote: c-Petrov
        Ukrainian is really a brain disease

        I do not agree! UKR, yes, this is a disease! Ukrainian is a nationality. There is no need to confuse the concept, in every nationality there are enough maydans. There are also many Russians jumping there. All ukro-ogres!
        1. NKT
          NKT 14 November 2017 18: 22 New
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          “Ukrainian” is the same nationality as “American”.
          1. Logall
            Logall 14 November 2017 18: 50 New
            +7
            Why not a German or a Frenchman? Rows everyone: some are gunas, others are galls ...
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 14 November 2017 20: 23 New
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              Quote: Logall
              Why not a German or a Frenchman? Rows everyone: some are gunas, others are galls ...

              Can I talk about Gala in more detail?)
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 14 November 2017 20: 55 New
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                Quote: Pirogov
                Quote: Logall
                Why not a German or a Frenchman? Rows everyone: some are gunas, others are galls ...

                Can I talk about Gala in more detail?)

                Galya is blonde, and Marushechka is brunette. Brown-haired Anya carries a samovar. Well, then bagels, lemon chiki, eeeeeh, pour it.drinks
            2. Popovich
              Popovich 14 November 2017 23: 08 New
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              - galls. came from gallicia, i.e. they are great-grandchildren of ancient ukrov winked
          2. revnagan
            revnagan 14 November 2017 19: 30 New
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            Quote: NKT
            “Ukrainian” is the same nationality as “American”.
            ... like a Russian, right?
          3. Karaul73
            Karaul73 14 November 2017 21: 59 New
            +2
            I am russian? Think what you write.
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov 14 November 2017 18: 46 New
          +6
          Yes, there are no Ukrainians and Belarusians - divided by spreading a thin layer on the bread. They told each other about the independence and voila - 3 different people

          therefore, those who speak with pride - I am Ukrainian - I look at those with suspicion and not understanding
          1. Logall
            Logall 14 November 2017 19: 19 New
            +7
            Then, according to your logic, there is no Moldovans either, Well, or Romanians ...
            For a long time they lived separately from Russia. Even before Peter I, it was already a separate state ... They joined the Russian Empire later!
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 14 November 2017 21: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: Logall
          uk.r yes it is a disease

          still crest forgot !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing and "Ukrainian", unfortunately, became an endangered species !!! Apparently, they remained in LDNR !!! negative negative negative request request
        4. Cutter
          Cutter 15 November 2017 00: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: Logall
          Quote: c-Petrov
          Ukrainian is really a brain disease

          I do not agree! UKR, yes, this is a disease! Ukrainian is a nationality. There is no need to confuse the concept, in every nationality there are enough maydans. There are also many Russians jumping there. All ukro-ogres!

          Oooh, how! hi bully But generally correct ... yes
        5. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 15 November 2017 23: 12 New
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          Quote: Logall
          I do not agree! UKR, yes, this is a disease! Ukrainian is a nationality. There is no need to confuse the concept, in every nationality there are enough maydans. There are also many Russians jumping there. All ukro-ogres!

          The number of people with a similar quality of life directly depends on upbringing and ideology.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 14 November 2017 17: 44 New
      +7
      Quote: hrych
      Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer

      Oh well, this is a great Ukrainian strategist! I recall that in his time as Minister of Defense, the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces shot down in 2001 the Russian Tu-154 over the Black Sea. So he otmazyvatsya to the last ..
      In short, he has experience shooting down civilian aircraft. But how is this useful in an open war with Russia?
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 14 November 2017 17: 45 New
        +5
        In short, he has experience knocking lithakiv. Do you think this will come in handy in an open war with Russia?


        tied with blood for a long time, and therefore sits where he sits. and do what they say. in front of himself, this jerk has long been justified
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 14 November 2017 17: 55 New
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        Vladimir Alabai Novikov said that in the near future the Ukrainian army could launch an offensive along the administrative border of the republics of Donbass towards the Russian border.

        And in his words there is a grain of truth, the junta can try to make an attempt. This is what the minister of defense says about this.
        However, the Ukrainian army can still go to the border with Russia.

        If they block the border with Russia, they will be strangled by the blockade of LDNR, which this general calls for. yes
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 14 November 2017 19: 26 New
          +1
          Rather, he wants to redraw the "Croatian scenario" in a bloody fashion.
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 15 November 2017 05: 55 New
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            The "Croatian scenario" in the Donbass is not possible in principle (if you nevertheless study the history of the issue, and not use the term in vain). The conditions and times for implementation are no longer the same. Moscow is not Belgrade, with its ambivalent politics. The Russians will not abandon their own, and the concept of "Russian World" will become really impossible to limit by any methods and technologies.
            LDNR is still in its right to annex territories occupied by pseudo-power, and God knows where these territories end.
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 November 2017 18: 21 New
        +4
        In fact, even judging solely by his two phrases, “without water” his statements boil down to the simple phrase ““ de-occupation of Donbass is impossible ”

        The rest is like that, mantras on the theme "I am strong ... but light" from a famous joke. One must justify the impotence of the "strongest army in Europe." In his opinion, the alleged reluctance of high casualties among the civilian population does not allow this great army to fulfill the plan to take control of the territory.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 14 November 2017 17: 44 New
      +4
      What rascals! No words. Aspen and hemp rope crying over it.
      Quote: hrych
      Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer
      1. volodya
        volodya 14 November 2017 17: 50 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        What rascals! No words. Aspen and hemp rope crying over it.
        Quote: hrych
        Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer

    4. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 14 November 2017 17: 52 New
      +3
      To capture the Donbass, the Ukrainian army will have to wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and all other large cities of the region from the face of the earth

      Kuzmuk said everything correctly ... Donbass can’t be broken, even if NATO troops enter there!
      The military spirit, there at the highest level ... They will resist until the last militia!
      And the majority in Russia will be the militias, we’ll go old and young .. soldier
      1. shark
        shark 14 November 2017 17: 58 New
        +4
        Star can and will go. And the young one will go in line for a new stub
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 14 November 2017 18: 17 New
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          You shouldn’t be so. The normal youth of 18-27 year olds and mature men 35-45 years old in Russia are overwhelming majority! There are scoundrels, but these have always been, are, and unfortunately will parasitize on the body of our Motherland!
          1. Dembel77
            Dembel77 14 November 2017 18: 58 New
            +3
            To capture the Donbass, the Ukrainian army will have to wipe off Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and all other major cities of the region. This was stated in an interview with ZIK by a general of the Ukrainian army
            He argues as a Nazi fascist, which means that he is actually a fascist! Therefore - to stake it. And the deal with the end. Amen.
    5. IL-18
      IL-18 14 November 2017 21: 53 New
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      To comment on an article
      Quote: hrych
      Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer

      it would be nice to read it first. The essence of Kuzmuk’s speech: Imagine how you can storm Donetsk - this is impossible. I can even develop and justify in the studio a plan for the de-occupation of Donbass, but for the same reasons it cannot be implemented.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 15 November 2017 02: 03 New
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        He - for a moment - the general of the very army that is now killing civilians - our brothers and sisters. He is an enemy in its purest form, and not ordinary.
        For one you can put to sleep, agree.
        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 15 November 2017 05: 59 New
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          To put to sleep is too humane, but to observe the tradition of wartime ...
        2. IL-18
          IL-18 16 November 2017 21: 28 New
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          I agree. It is possible to burn for the use of phosphorus ammunition APU.
  2. svp67
    svp67 14 November 2017 17: 38 New
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    We can do this in terms of potential and power, but we will have to wipe off Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities
    - said Kuzmuk.
    Mr. Kuzmuk, it’s easier for you to IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY.
  3. Kleber
    Kleber 14 November 2017 17: 41 New
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    According to him, 70-80 thousand people concentrated on the contact line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    It is time to consider the potential fertilizer in tons, and not in thousands.
  4. solzh
    solzh 14 November 2017 17: 41 New
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    will have to wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities

    During the Great Patriotic War, the Nazis destroyed a lot of Soviet settlements. Well, where are they those invaders? The same will be with VSU.
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 14 November 2017 17: 49 New
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      Quote: solzh
      will have to wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities

      During the Great Patriotic War, the Nazis destroyed a lot of Soviet settlements. Well, where are they those invaders? The same will be with VSU.


      As where? Who else live marching in SS uniform in the cities of Ukraine.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 14 November 2017 17: 49 New
      +1
      It's a shame that the enemy was worthy then. and now...
  5. scrap123
    scrap123 14 November 2017 17: 44 New
    +1
    most likely you’ll have yourself with all your bunch of schizophrenics ....
  6. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 14 November 2017 17: 46 New
    +7
    Not one accordion tore while served, and of erysipelas.
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 14 November 2017 18: 31 New
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      Well, he drank his brains, now he carries all sorts of nonsense.
  7. pvv113
    pvv113 14 November 2017 17: 51 New
    +2
    former Minister of Defense of the country Alexander Kuzmuk

    This Kuzmuk has a tremendous combat experience. lol
    From Wikipedia:
    The general gained a notable part of his fame thanks to two high-profile scandals related to the tragic consequences of army exercises during his first tenure as head of the Defense Ministry. In the first case, on April 20, 2000, a ground-to-ground missile, unsuccessfully launched from a training ground in the Chernihiv region, fell into a residential building in Brovary, Kiev region. Three people died, five were injured.
    On October 4, 2001, another state of emergency: a ground-to-air missile, launched on an air defense exercises in Crimea, shot down a TU-154 aircraft with 78 passengers and crew over the Black Sea flying on a Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk flight. In both cases, within a few days after the emergency, the top officials of the Ministry of Defense, headed by the minister, tried to convince journalists and the public that the army had nothing to do with them. The head of the defense department resigned only at the peak of the second scandal

    wassat
    1. turbris
      turbris 14 November 2017 18: 01 New
      +3
      How can a former defense minister turn into such a moron or was he like that all the time? I would no longer be disgraced! I remember how Kuchma and he convinced everyone that they had nothing to do with the history of the Tu-154 - purely in Ukrainian, at least in the eyes of ........ all the dew of God. Ukraine still has not compensated for the damage to the airline and after that it can be called any state at all?
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 14 November 2017 18: 11 New
        +2
        Recently, the defense ministers of Ukraine are more like some buffoons than the heads of the military department
  8. stolz
    stolz 14 November 2017 17: 53 New
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    Quote: hrych
    Put to sleep Kuzmuk, so as not to suffer

    Exactly, judging the face of the face in the photo, he is constantly thumpy and not sober up. This is a truly Ukrainian officer, takes an example from the head of state.
  9. ded100
    ded100 14 November 2017 17: 57 New
    +3
    Where did such nits come from? I was born, studied in the union, and here such degradation! I agree with the first post just do not put to sleep and strangle like a sloppy cat!
  10. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 14 November 2017 17: 58 New
    +9
    SMERSH did not finalize after the age of 45, so they all multiplied in all their glory and take revenge on us ..

    Again, you will have to repeat everything, only it will be much more difficult and there will be more blood ..
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 14 November 2017 18: 23 New
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    What Kuzmuk never said: is the Ukrainian army ready for protracted battles in urban conditions?
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 14 November 2017 18: 42 New
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      Just said

      will have to wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities
      - said Kuzmuk.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 November 2017 19: 02 New
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        Quote: Kleber
        Just said

        will have to wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities
        - said Kuzmuk.

        Fighting out of town and just erasing it, these are things of a different order. I mean it’s a city battle, do the APU really think that such a city as Donetsk will be easy to take
        1. Kleber
          Kleber 14 November 2017 19: 11 New
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          So I meant that there will be no urban battles .... they will try to demolish the art.
        2. dzvero
          dzvero 14 November 2017 19: 22 New
          +1
          He knows that “take” will be on (or even beyond) the edge of opportunity and therefore he speaks of “wiping the face of the earth" ...
          Oh, how sorry that the loaf is dumb in the coffers ... am
  12. Troll
    Troll 14 November 2017 18: 45 New
    +1
    In fact, he admitted the impossibility of victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by military means.
  13. DPN
    DPN 14 November 2017 18: 58 New
    +4
    A man told the truth that it is not possible to defeat the DPR and LPR, so why blame him.? Well, you can’t take them!
    These cities are now comparable with Leningrad and Stalingrad, but such cities do not RENT.!
  14. Gunner
    Gunner 14 November 2017 19: 18 New
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    Such strategists cut with the whole family.
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 14 November 2017 19: 36 New
      +1
      What does the family have to do with it? Every family has its black sheep.
      1. White and fluffy
        White and fluffy 15 November 2017 06: 52 New
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        Inverted consciousness. The word is perceived as a person with physical disabilities, and in every family. This is actually the firstborn!
  15. kefan
    kefan 14 November 2017 19: 44 New
    +2
    Well, the muzzle soaked by entov general, Petin can immediately see a drinking companion.
  16. polpot
    polpot 14 November 2017 20: 11 New
    +2
    Here are freaks - an immortal phrase from a wonderful movie about stolen and their American friends
  17. Sergey53
    Sergey53 14 November 2017 20: 15 New
    +4
    To capture the Donbass, you need to destroy Donetsk and Lugansk. And if you destroy Kiev, you don’t have to do anything.
  18. nkilmaev
    nkilmaev 14 November 2017 20: 31 New
    -1
    When Kuzmuk was the Minister of Defense, I kept wondering how he could rise to the rank of general.
  19. Sergei75
    Sergei75 14 November 2017 20: 36 New
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    But the question needs to be solved, there people live under the bombs and they need to work and be treated.
  20. PValery53
    PValery53 14 November 2017 21: 19 New
    +2
    "wipe Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka and other cities from the face of the earth"
    (Kuzmuk)
    - It’s cheaper to wipe out Kogmuk Kuzmuk from the face of the earth so that he doesn’t grind such nonsense. And if they begin to "erase from the ground," then Kiiv himself will sooner "erase" than Donbass.
  21. av58
    av58 14 November 2017 23: 57 New
    +2
    It still hasn’t worked out - it won’t work out anymore. It is a pity that Putin did not let Mariupol take in 2014 and move towards Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 15 November 2017 01: 23 New
      +1
      Yes, this is an unforgivable and possibly irreparable mistake.
  22. LeonidL
    LeonidL 15 November 2017 01: 23 New
    0
    The general is right - the garbage war is the main development of plans.
  23. Sadam
    Sadam 15 November 2017 02: 10 New
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    As current agree on the price of Crimea on the next day, Luhansk and Donetsk will not be interesting to anyone in Moscow and all heroism will go to waste. everyone understands these obvious things. and so try for patriotism konesh is possible
    1. turbris
      turbris 15 November 2017 11: 10 New
      +1
      What do you understand how lousy is foreign, nobody is going to trade in Crimea, Crimea is Russia, the issue has long been resolved and we don’t need any kind of approval or recognition from anyone. With Donbas, the issue will be resolved in the same way.
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  25. Loki_2
    Loki_2 20 November 2017 17: 09 New
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    Stop posting the words of the dubious personality of Alabay-Ryabuhi-Novikov.