And what about the role of our "brothers"?
Despite the fact that some of our readers openly accuse us of Ukrainophobia and anti-Ukrainianism, we still continue to reflect on what is happening inside Ukrainian heads today. And we do it not for Ukrainians, of course, but for Russians. In Ukraine, we are hardly read, but understanding for Russians is an important component. At least so that we do not have the next cultural and intellectual shock in the case of Maidan-3 or Odessa-2.
That this happens, if we had doubts, then every day they, like smoke, evaporate. At least, Ukrainians are doing quite a lot for this.
We do not draw our conclusions on the basis of statements by high-ranking officials or experts of various kinds. We were most interested in the lowest level of the hierarchical ladder of Ukraine. Those who today-tomorrow will go to serve in the ATO, repair Tanks and send SMS with the help of the glorious soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Everyone with whom we communicated at a simple everyday level perceived our questions in completely different ways and, accordingly, gave answers. Someone perceived it as an information war, in which you just need to win. Someone, on the contrary, as a PR campaign of authors on the "hot" topic. For some, the topic was simply "dead" and the answer then, at best, was "yes, they went, these politicians." At worst - known routes, defined by the prepositions "in", "to" and "on".
However, a certain amount of information was collected and assimilated, from which this topic was born.
Today the topic is "ripe". And the problem that will be discussed has already become global for Ukraine, and for us as well. Today, Ukraine is exactly the same country as all the others. Ukraine is already far from Russia and not even a good neighbor. The problem of Donbass every day becomes a real threat of war. This is what the Donetsk residents are telling us. This is spoken by quite a few citizens of Ukraine. And this threat is not in interstate relations between our two countries. The threat in the generation that now "rules the ball" in Ukraine. The threat in those purely human relationships that always exist between ordinary people.
In the comments to any article about Ukraine, you will definitely find something like this: “The author is already tired of this nedostran. Let them live as they want. They kill each other, they destroy the industry, they sell their unique land, fall under the US or the European Union. charges. "
Even the citizens of Ukraine write about the same. "Tired, do not watch TV. Survive" ...
Survival, in fact, killed politicization in their heads. Those who survived from the time of the USSR and are not particularly susceptible to propaganda, alas, but the number of people in this category has significantly decreased in the post-Mayd period. The category of those who have become apolitical for 45-50. 9 from 10 says directly that they don't trust anyone. And they will not support anyone in the elections.
But it is this category of voters that makes up the bulk of those who go to the polls. Younger "boys and girls" often ignore such activities. They solve political issues in a more radical way. March with torches. Poorat on Independence. Turn a couple of cars ... This is more like the process of "revolution".
Naturally, now by virtue of the profession, we communicate with this category. And also make some conclusions. Findings of their own, based on personal conversations, at meetings, on the participation in information "get-togethers" on the Internet. We did not use any official data.
So, what is the Ukrainian youth politically? Those who have not found the Soviet Union and who have an idea about Russia, about stories Ukraine, on the structure of the world formed already in the period of Ukrainian statehood.
The percentage of 35-40 young people are clearly tuned to emigration. And run away from the country at the earliest opportunity. Moreover, the place of the future life is absolutely not important. The main thing is to get everything at once. And preferably without problems. This category is completely apolitical, as well as parents, and look at the world exclusively with the “belly.” "I want to go where well fed." In a not very well-fed country, this is both normal and justified.
The next group is not particularly left from the first. A small but existing in the political realities of Ukraine group of nihilists. They have already understood that nothing happens just like that. You have to pay for everything. And I do not want to pay. They are "old" in advance. "Live as you like and come what may." The curve is still somewhere take out.
The 10-15 percentages are "peace loving reformers". They understand that the country must be reformed, but it must be done through improved laws, through economic growth, through the development of their own country. In principle, this category was supposed to form the backbone of the "revolutionaries." But they are not fighters. They are not able to fight and shout down the opponent.
And finally, the largest category of youth in Ukraine. The very radicals who are actively involved in all the revolutionary events. They learned from childhood, at the subconscious level they know that the main enemy is Russia. They do not need proof of this hostility, and those who are trying to tell the truth about modern Russia automatically become enemies of the nation. If you like, their personal enemies.
They volunteer for the ATO. They form the backbone of radical organizations. They are clearly "sharpened" by the enemy. About Russia, the conversation has already been. But the enemy in the eyes of these young people can be any state that ceases to support their revolution. Today it is Poland, Hungary, Germany. These countries "betrayed the ideals of Maidan" and "have centuries-old ties with imperial Russia." And most importantly, "these countries have always tried to oppress free Ukrainians."
Probably, after the decision of the United States, after all, not to give money for the junta, the Americans will also turn into enemies ...
By the way, here it is necessary to dispel another myth that exists in Russia. The basis of this category is not "zapadentsy". No, it is most often students of universities and other educational institutions. And from central and southern Ukraine. For Western Ukraine, on the contrary, the separatist sentiments of the “Crimean” model are characteristic. Separate from this "madhouse" and join a European country. It is desirable that for this they had nothing. In order not to beat them, as they beat Donbass today. You know, a sort of modern dream Oblomov. Live well and do nothing.
In the comments to the articles there is another topic that meets constantly. "We are fraternal peoples. Most Russians have relatives in Ukraine. And you want to embroil them with your articles. We have to wait for the change of power in Kiev and everything will be the same" ...
We admit that at some time we, too, considered our peoples fraternal. It was driven into us in the Soviet school. Yes, so deeply hammered that became part of the world.
However, over time, simple questions began to arise. For the four postmaid years, show us at least one proof of our "fraternity." One! We can give hundreds of examples of what we, Russians, are called to remember about the fraternal people. Pay stupidity younger "brother." But there is no evidence from the Ukrainian side!
Brothers differ from friends and acquaintances in that they are not chosen. They just are. And what do we see in relation to us from the Ukrainian side? The "brotherhood" is remembered exactly when there is nothing to eat. Next year we will definitely become “brothers” again. Just because the Ukrainians are hoping for a “brotherhood” to buy another agreement on the transit of oil and gas. We will be such "brothers" that participants from both sides will kiss our gums at our political shows.
There is a person like the body, such "brothers". Many and different. Only they are called differently. Strange, but with these "brothers" we fight. We kill them in all available and inaccessible ways. Even harming their own health.
Family ties? Is there a person in Russia who has all the family ties in Ukraine? Is there a person who has not heard or read angry words about himself? Yes, those from which the hair stood on end. Is there a person who did not “delve into himself”? “Maybe the truth is that we have done something bad to the Ukrainians?” We doubt, but we allow, of course.
And then, why is our "brotherhood" accompanied by such anti-Russian hysteria? Why do the "brothers" collect money for the whole world for their soldiers who "are at war with the Russian-separatist troops in Donbass"? Why in the border areas of Russia almost every week the FSB catches the next "shpygunov"? Why are the specialists in "constant tension" from the real possibility of terrorist attacks from Ukraine? Why recently, in one of the Ukrainian social networks, we read the "memories of the taiga arsonist"?
The man allegedly worked in the Krasnoyarsk Territory and set fire to the taiga. In free from working days at the aggressor time. It is clear that this is most likely a fake message. Who wrote it in general from the territory of Ukraine did not leave. Or traveled, but did not set on fire. Taiga and so burns itself, as with the help of man, and without. Or indeed, he went and set on fire.
But who made him write it? And how will other "workers" react to such a feat? This is exactly the "brother" wrote? And likes him put "brothers" Russian?
So, smoothly, we go on another topic, which is often written about. The theme of these most "workers". It always strikes our man’s ability to invent a question. Then answer it yourself and still argue. Quiet with yourself ...
Most of the citizens of Russia have a rather positive or loyal attitude towards Ukrainian workers. It is difficult for ordinary people of the neighboring country. Hard to live. Therefore, let us have a little "fed up." Look around. Then they will come to Ukraine and tell about the lies that they write about us and say in the Ukrainian media.
Yes, and by their low demands, Ukrainians make our enterprises competitive in the global market. On the one hand, ready-made professionals who practically do not need training, and on the other hand, they do not require high salaries and, consequently, ensure low production costs. Ukrainians will leave and Russians will come to their place. Require higher wages and thereby reduce the competitiveness of products! And here to you, as result - the next rise in prices.
We think you read such "economists' opuses."
Okay, about the salaries of Russians who are really dropping from the presence of serious competition in the labor market. This is an inexhaustible topic. But competitiveness is worth talking about. Is it good about what you wrote above? Not reminiscent of the Soviet Union? What part of the cost of production is the wage of the employee? This is the basis of economics for first graders. Maybe the old fashioned way? To modernize production, introduce the most modern technologies, reduce additional costs?
For Ukrainians today there is only one god - Hryvnia! From which it is transformed, do not care. From the ruble, dollar, euro, zloty ... The main thing - to get! The main thing is to support the family, and, consequently, the country. It is possible to get the hryvnia at home - well. No - go ahead in the "Zarobitchan". Bring the currency and provide war, "reform", the fight against Russian influence and other revolutionary activities. You are a slave of the state and must make a profit for this state.
And, say, this concerns the Russians to some extent. Yes, but we do not need to go anywhere yet. And, speaking of the slave relationship of a person and the state, it does not matter in principle that we mean Ukraine or Russia.
But, as one of the interlocutors told us, “how many hryvnias do not print, they are paperless without a dollar or ruble.” Accordingly, the extraction of mineral hryvnia through the ruble or the dollar is quite a task for the public and private levels.
And here comes an interesting thought. Can a slave be friends with his master? Or be a "brother"? Can a slave who must earn and bring money to the owner of money by any means be a "friend" to the one who allows him to do this? Alas, can not. There is an insoluble contradiction between these people. Both want to make money and both are unhappy with the profits of the other.
We talk and write for a long time that Ukraine is being used. Russia, the USA, Western Europe, China ... It all depends on the political orientation of the one who speaks. But is it? Or maybe everything is exactly the opposite? Maybe Ukraine uses the world around it? Why strained relations with neighbors? Just because it comes time to pay the bills. And oh how Ukrainians do not like to pay. "Write off the debt! You wrote off Cuba!" And again about the "brotherhood" ...
We think that exactly the same will soon be heard by the Europeans and the Americans. Interest on the debt must be paid. And every year more and more. And there is nothing to pay. So, new debts. And, in the end, there will be European and American "moskalyaki", which simply need "to Gilyaku" ...
Otherwise, the “Ukrainian brothers” will simply not survive.
We have long talked about the generation of enemies, which will appear "soon." And this "soon" came. This generation is now in Ukraine the main political force. They do not alter. They are not rehabilitated. They will not leave.
It should be clearly understood that the Ukraine, which we still remember, no longer exists and never will.
There is a parody of the modern Baltic states and Poland. And an aggressive and vile parody. There is an insidious enemy who uses us today, but tomorrow, with pleasure, will thrust the knife into our back.
It is very difficult to understand a normal person, but we will try to do something in this direction. And with this we will be helped by two former graduates of the history department of the Kiev Taras Shevchenko University, one of whom “loves” Russia so much that he kindly agreed to provide all the necessary documents and hold consultations on the topic “Why Russia is an enemy of Ukraine.”
By documents, if someone does not understand, we mean educational and methodical literature, on the basis of which Ukrainian patriots are raised today. And successfully brought up, by the way.
In general, as we believe, it is time to, if not bury, then seriously rethink the myth of some "fraternal peoples." By the way, this is not only about Ukraine.
That this happens, if we had doubts, then every day they, like smoke, evaporate. At least, Ukrainians are doing quite a lot for this.
We do not draw our conclusions on the basis of statements by high-ranking officials or experts of various kinds. We were most interested in the lowest level of the hierarchical ladder of Ukraine. Those who today-tomorrow will go to serve in the ATO, repair Tanks and send SMS with the help of the glorious soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Everyone with whom we communicated at a simple everyday level perceived our questions in completely different ways and, accordingly, gave answers. Someone perceived it as an information war, in which you just need to win. Someone, on the contrary, as a PR campaign of authors on the "hot" topic. For some, the topic was simply "dead" and the answer then, at best, was "yes, they went, these politicians." At worst - known routes, defined by the prepositions "in", "to" and "on".
However, a certain amount of information was collected and assimilated, from which this topic was born.
Today the topic is "ripe". And the problem that will be discussed has already become global for Ukraine, and for us as well. Today, Ukraine is exactly the same country as all the others. Ukraine is already far from Russia and not even a good neighbor. The problem of Donbass every day becomes a real threat of war. This is what the Donetsk residents are telling us. This is spoken by quite a few citizens of Ukraine. And this threat is not in interstate relations between our two countries. The threat in the generation that now "rules the ball" in Ukraine. The threat in those purely human relationships that always exist between ordinary people.
In the comments to any article about Ukraine, you will definitely find something like this: “The author is already tired of this nedostran. Let them live as they want. They kill each other, they destroy the industry, they sell their unique land, fall under the US or the European Union. charges. "
Even the citizens of Ukraine write about the same. "Tired, do not watch TV. Survive" ...
Survival, in fact, killed politicization in their heads. Those who survived from the time of the USSR and are not particularly susceptible to propaganda, alas, but the number of people in this category has significantly decreased in the post-Mayd period. The category of those who have become apolitical for 45-50. 9 from 10 says directly that they don't trust anyone. And they will not support anyone in the elections.
But it is this category of voters that makes up the bulk of those who go to the polls. Younger "boys and girls" often ignore such activities. They solve political issues in a more radical way. March with torches. Poorat on Independence. Turn a couple of cars ... This is more like the process of "revolution".
Naturally, now by virtue of the profession, we communicate with this category. And also make some conclusions. Findings of their own, based on personal conversations, at meetings, on the participation in information "get-togethers" on the Internet. We did not use any official data.
So, what is the Ukrainian youth politically? Those who have not found the Soviet Union and who have an idea about Russia, about stories Ukraine, on the structure of the world formed already in the period of Ukrainian statehood.
The percentage of 35-40 young people are clearly tuned to emigration. And run away from the country at the earliest opportunity. Moreover, the place of the future life is absolutely not important. The main thing is to get everything at once. And preferably without problems. This category is completely apolitical, as well as parents, and look at the world exclusively with the “belly.” "I want to go where well fed." In a not very well-fed country, this is both normal and justified.
The next group is not particularly left from the first. A small but existing in the political realities of Ukraine group of nihilists. They have already understood that nothing happens just like that. You have to pay for everything. And I do not want to pay. They are "old" in advance. "Live as you like and come what may." The curve is still somewhere take out.
The 10-15 percentages are "peace loving reformers". They understand that the country must be reformed, but it must be done through improved laws, through economic growth, through the development of their own country. In principle, this category was supposed to form the backbone of the "revolutionaries." But they are not fighters. They are not able to fight and shout down the opponent.
And finally, the largest category of youth in Ukraine. The very radicals who are actively involved in all the revolutionary events. They learned from childhood, at the subconscious level they know that the main enemy is Russia. They do not need proof of this hostility, and those who are trying to tell the truth about modern Russia automatically become enemies of the nation. If you like, their personal enemies.
They volunteer for the ATO. They form the backbone of radical organizations. They are clearly "sharpened" by the enemy. About Russia, the conversation has already been. But the enemy in the eyes of these young people can be any state that ceases to support their revolution. Today it is Poland, Hungary, Germany. These countries "betrayed the ideals of Maidan" and "have centuries-old ties with imperial Russia." And most importantly, "these countries have always tried to oppress free Ukrainians."
Probably, after the decision of the United States, after all, not to give money for the junta, the Americans will also turn into enemies ...
By the way, here it is necessary to dispel another myth that exists in Russia. The basis of this category is not "zapadentsy". No, it is most often students of universities and other educational institutions. And from central and southern Ukraine. For Western Ukraine, on the contrary, the separatist sentiments of the “Crimean” model are characteristic. Separate from this "madhouse" and join a European country. It is desirable that for this they had nothing. In order not to beat them, as they beat Donbass today. You know, a sort of modern dream Oblomov. Live well and do nothing.
In the comments to the articles there is another topic that meets constantly. "We are fraternal peoples. Most Russians have relatives in Ukraine. And you want to embroil them with your articles. We have to wait for the change of power in Kiev and everything will be the same" ...
We admit that at some time we, too, considered our peoples fraternal. It was driven into us in the Soviet school. Yes, so deeply hammered that became part of the world.
However, over time, simple questions began to arise. For the four postmaid years, show us at least one proof of our "fraternity." One! We can give hundreds of examples of what we, Russians, are called to remember about the fraternal people. Pay stupidity younger "brother." But there is no evidence from the Ukrainian side!
Brothers differ from friends and acquaintances in that they are not chosen. They just are. And what do we see in relation to us from the Ukrainian side? The "brotherhood" is remembered exactly when there is nothing to eat. Next year we will definitely become “brothers” again. Just because the Ukrainians are hoping for a “brotherhood” to buy another agreement on the transit of oil and gas. We will be such "brothers" that participants from both sides will kiss our gums at our political shows.
There is a person like the body, such "brothers". Many and different. Only they are called differently. Strange, but with these "brothers" we fight. We kill them in all available and inaccessible ways. Even harming their own health.
Family ties? Is there a person in Russia who has all the family ties in Ukraine? Is there a person who has not heard or read angry words about himself? Yes, those from which the hair stood on end. Is there a person who did not “delve into himself”? “Maybe the truth is that we have done something bad to the Ukrainians?” We doubt, but we allow, of course.
And then, why is our "brotherhood" accompanied by such anti-Russian hysteria? Why do the "brothers" collect money for the whole world for their soldiers who "are at war with the Russian-separatist troops in Donbass"? Why in the border areas of Russia almost every week the FSB catches the next "shpygunov"? Why are the specialists in "constant tension" from the real possibility of terrorist attacks from Ukraine? Why recently, in one of the Ukrainian social networks, we read the "memories of the taiga arsonist"?
The man allegedly worked in the Krasnoyarsk Territory and set fire to the taiga. In free from working days at the aggressor time. It is clear that this is most likely a fake message. Who wrote it in general from the territory of Ukraine did not leave. Or traveled, but did not set on fire. Taiga and so burns itself, as with the help of man, and without. Or indeed, he went and set on fire.
But who made him write it? And how will other "workers" react to such a feat? This is exactly the "brother" wrote? And likes him put "brothers" Russian?
So, smoothly, we go on another topic, which is often written about. The theme of these most "workers". It always strikes our man’s ability to invent a question. Then answer it yourself and still argue. Quiet with yourself ...
Most of the citizens of Russia have a rather positive or loyal attitude towards Ukrainian workers. It is difficult for ordinary people of the neighboring country. Hard to live. Therefore, let us have a little "fed up." Look around. Then they will come to Ukraine and tell about the lies that they write about us and say in the Ukrainian media.
Yes, and by their low demands, Ukrainians make our enterprises competitive in the global market. On the one hand, ready-made professionals who practically do not need training, and on the other hand, they do not require high salaries and, consequently, ensure low production costs. Ukrainians will leave and Russians will come to their place. Require higher wages and thereby reduce the competitiveness of products! And here to you, as result - the next rise in prices.
We think you read such "economists' opuses."
Okay, about the salaries of Russians who are really dropping from the presence of serious competition in the labor market. This is an inexhaustible topic. But competitiveness is worth talking about. Is it good about what you wrote above? Not reminiscent of the Soviet Union? What part of the cost of production is the wage of the employee? This is the basis of economics for first graders. Maybe the old fashioned way? To modernize production, introduce the most modern technologies, reduce additional costs?
For Ukrainians today there is only one god - Hryvnia! From which it is transformed, do not care. From the ruble, dollar, euro, zloty ... The main thing - to get! The main thing is to support the family, and, consequently, the country. It is possible to get the hryvnia at home - well. No - go ahead in the "Zarobitchan". Bring the currency and provide war, "reform", the fight against Russian influence and other revolutionary activities. You are a slave of the state and must make a profit for this state.
And, say, this concerns the Russians to some extent. Yes, but we do not need to go anywhere yet. And, speaking of the slave relationship of a person and the state, it does not matter in principle that we mean Ukraine or Russia.
But, as one of the interlocutors told us, “how many hryvnias do not print, they are paperless without a dollar or ruble.” Accordingly, the extraction of mineral hryvnia through the ruble or the dollar is quite a task for the public and private levels.
And here comes an interesting thought. Can a slave be friends with his master? Or be a "brother"? Can a slave who must earn and bring money to the owner of money by any means be a "friend" to the one who allows him to do this? Alas, can not. There is an insoluble contradiction between these people. Both want to make money and both are unhappy with the profits of the other.
We talk and write for a long time that Ukraine is being used. Russia, the USA, Western Europe, China ... It all depends on the political orientation of the one who speaks. But is it? Or maybe everything is exactly the opposite? Maybe Ukraine uses the world around it? Why strained relations with neighbors? Just because it comes time to pay the bills. And oh how Ukrainians do not like to pay. "Write off the debt! You wrote off Cuba!" And again about the "brotherhood" ...
We think that exactly the same will soon be heard by the Europeans and the Americans. Interest on the debt must be paid. And every year more and more. And there is nothing to pay. So, new debts. And, in the end, there will be European and American "moskalyaki", which simply need "to Gilyaku" ...
Otherwise, the “Ukrainian brothers” will simply not survive.
We have long talked about the generation of enemies, which will appear "soon." And this "soon" came. This generation is now in Ukraine the main political force. They do not alter. They are not rehabilitated. They will not leave.
It should be clearly understood that the Ukraine, which we still remember, no longer exists and never will.
There is a parody of the modern Baltic states and Poland. And an aggressive and vile parody. There is an insidious enemy who uses us today, but tomorrow, with pleasure, will thrust the knife into our back.
It is very difficult to understand a normal person, but we will try to do something in this direction. And with this we will be helped by two former graduates of the history department of the Kiev Taras Shevchenko University, one of whom “loves” Russia so much that he kindly agreed to provide all the necessary documents and hold consultations on the topic “Why Russia is an enemy of Ukraine.”
By documents, if someone does not understand, we mean educational and methodical literature, on the basis of which Ukrainian patriots are raised today. And successfully brought up, by the way.
In general, as we believe, it is time to, if not bury, then seriously rethink the myth of some "fraternal peoples." By the way, this is not only about Ukraine.
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