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US media called the threat of a record wheat harvest in the Russian Federation

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The large grain harvest in Russia was the main reason for the fall in wheat prices in the United States, according to The Wall Street Journal (WSJ).




"As a result, the United States is closing the sales office of the Wheat Association in Egypt," the newspaper newspaper article cites News.

According to the author of the publication, the American "farmers lost the old rival." He also noted that the expected harvest of 130 million tons of wheat "strengthened the revival of the country (Russia) as an agricultural superpower."

The publication reports that "wheat prices in the Chicago Board of Trade fell by 25% from the beginning of the harvest in the Russian Federation in July and amounted to $ 4,19 per bushel (35,2 l)." According to the WSJ, bypassing America as a world exporter of wheat “Russia was helped by large investments and a weakening ruble.”

Analysts expect the US wheat harvest to fall by a quarter due to drought. At the same time, American wheat will make up only 15% of world exports, whereas in 1970-s this figure was at the level of 50-percent.

The Ministry of Agriculture of the United States assumes that the harvest of the Russian Federation this season will be twice as much as in their country.

This year, Russia began to export wheat to Venezuela. The first batch of grain (30 thousand tons) arrived in this republic on September 1.
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  1. Shura Perm
    Shura Perm 14 November 2017 12: 04 New
    +9
    They are them any good news from Russia threat
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 14 November 2017 12: 07 New
      21
      Quote: Shura Perm
      They are them any good news from Russia threat

      For them, the very existence of Russia is considered a threat. winked
      1. Cat Marquis
        Cat Marquis 14 November 2017 12: 17 New
        13
        Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency, and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "swellders" ....
        1. hrych
          hrych 14 November 2017 12: 19 New
          30
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency, and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "swellders" ....

          Says cat Marquis daughter of a cat Leopold (believe me, with millet not everything is so simple, the mice ate laughing ), under the American flag wassat wassat wassat
          1. drunkram
            drunkram 14 November 2017 17: 21 New
            +2
            With such a huge surplus of wheat, for some reason, prices do not fall on bread, it’s very strange, I looked on the Internet compared to November 2015, prices almost did not change, and some even increased
            1. hrych
              hrych 14 November 2017 17: 26 New
              +5
              Reducing prices, we hit the agricultural producer, the main thing is that feed fall. Bread and so cheap against the background of everything else, is worth a penny in the Russian Federation, so it’s not worth even discussing it. It is better to build up reserves and strike at competitors, in fact what they complain about laughing
            2. Albert1988
              Albert1988 14 November 2017 20: 03 New
              0
              Quote: drunkram
              Compared to November 2015, prices have not changed much.

              Naturally - after all, we have annual inflation of the ruble and not very small. that prices do not fall ... request
          2. 406ppm2gv
            406ppm2gv 14 November 2017 21: 44 New
            +1
            Dear Grunt! And why such a great power joy? I think that the Cat Marquis is right, hard varieties of wheat (with high gluten) are exported abroad, and no one needs soft varieties (the so-called "feed" wheat). Since hard wheat varieties sprout in Russia not so much, they will interfere with soft varieties. and such bread will do. Business, nothing personal, I already am an amateur in this and I understand that.
            1. hrych
              hrych 14 November 2017 22: 20 New
              +5
              Quote: 406ppmp2gv
              the so-called feed wheat

              This wheat (Grade 5) gives us meat, which is no less valuable for the state. Do not forget the Russian Federation - the northern country, and nevertheless, Putin's agricultural holdings has achieved 1 place in the export of millet. That says a lot. Solid (1-2 class) we buy ourselves in Kazakhstan, there is a special climate. In 2012, the following types of wheat were exported from Russia: 4th grade wheat - 8,4 million tons, 3rd grade wheat - 6,8 million tons, 5th grade wheat - 0,4 million tons, 2nd wheat class - 0,01 million tons. Grade 1 goes to the production of pasta, where hardness is required. For a flour mill, grade 3 and 4 are required. We produce
              Grade 2 - 0,04%
              Grade 3 - 36,0%
              Grade 4 - 44,1%
              Grade 5 - 19,9% ​​(feed)
              Those. both in the structure of production, and exports are consistent. The most important thing is overlooked, we are not pasta, traditional dishes of Russian people also do not require hard varieties. Bread requires Grade 3. Grade 4 requires the addition of high-grade varieties, so we sell it the most. In short, everything is fine. Those who buy grade 4 from us are also satisfied with their culinary issues. What are your problems? Denigrate our next victory? And this is a real achievement of the regime because the USSR bought millet in the USA. By the way, the purchase of grain in Kazakhstan (98%), the former Soviet republic (no Turkish promoters) is not the purchase of grain from enemies. The buyers of Russian wheat have traditionally been the countries of North Africa, the Middle East and Turkey.
            2. Mih1974
              Mih1974 15 November 2017 04: 31 New
              +2
              Ha, they scared the hedgehog with a naked aphedron, and some (personally me) generally prefer the rye bread tongue laughing
              So - exported, "hard" wheat, imported, the majority of the people do not care. I'll tell you more - buy yourself a bread machine good , buy any flour and bake yourself what you want. (I personally do this and believe me it's worth it good ) By the way, “fodder” grain is more or less fattening belly and Birds good
            3. ghby
              ghby 15 November 2017 10: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: 406ppmp2gv
              That they will interfere with the soft varieties.

              And selling a business abroad is nothing personal wassat
        2. The black
          The black 14 November 2017 12: 19 New
          19
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency, and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "swellings" ...

          You would first change the flag on the profile, and then you would be happy for us smile
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 14 November 2017 12: 23 New
            10
            So he can write about his
            and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "bulking agents" ....
            1. hrych
              hrych 14 November 2017 12: 29 New
              11
              He had a bulldozer snack on Brighton wassat
          2. Cat Marquis
            Cat Marquis 14 November 2017 12: 30 New
            +5
            So, always, everyone strives to offend the cat .... then they kick it with their feet, then they will incite the "Dog" and the unfortunate animal will always reproach the flag ..... sad
            1. ando_bor
              ando_bor 14 November 2017 13: 15 New
              12
              Quote: Marquis Cat
              So, always, everyone strives to offend the cat .... then they kick it with their feet, then they will incite the "Dog" and the unfortunate animal will always reproach the flag ..... sad

              For the tail and the ground of such a cat, - State Department of State.
            2. Hammerlock
              Hammerlock 14 November 2017 13: 21 New
              +3
              and you (number of PIs) (3) less di, you look and sausages will give
            3. demos1111
              demos1111 14 November 2017 15: 57 New
              +4
              And what will they sing in your homeland when in Russia 250 million. Will tons of grain be harvested? Lands of people walking in darkness, starving people even more.
              And they consider Russia a threat because of grain for one reason, it is clean in Russia, without GMOs and cheaper than Americanosovsky, with all their additives. And they know the mattresses, they will lose the competition, so they are furious.
            4. Mih1974
              Mih1974 15 November 2017 04: 32 New
              +1
              And who will cheat - we will beat in the face. I repeat on the impudent Red face (s) laughing
        3. Scoun
          Scoun 14 November 2017 12: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency,

          Yes, even so, yesterday on the news they showed, still a lot of grain has not been cleaned, there is no place to store corny !!! And Russian Railways failed and Russian Railways says that the owners of the cars are to blame .......
          HARVEST is, and of maximum benefit, and from this, we cannot get without a kick.
          Arrows only throw on each other.

          Will the bread disappear? In Kurgan region, harvested crops rot in the fields | AIF Chelyabinsk
          chel.aif.ru/kyrgan...urozhay_gniyot...
          Turbo · An unprecedented crop in the Kurgan region. The harvesting campaign has not yet ended, and two million tons of grain have already been harvested. ... High-yield farmers are not happy
          1. hrych
            hrych 14 November 2017 12: 34 New
            +5
            I’ll tell you a secret that in extreme cases, if the capacities do not allow processing, you can just drop it and business. Humorous soil for joy laughing Therefore, do not worry much about our luck laughing By the way, feed will become cheaper and the meat industry will receive a bonus. Amid sanctions and import substitution, heaven is for us good
            1. LUCKY777
              LUCKY777 14 November 2017 18: 52 New
              +2
              Yes, I am for you! EtozhZh almost alcohol!)
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 14 November 2017 13: 02 New
            +2
            Duc ... since Soviet times an unprecedented crop - the worst disaster in the village. For he always comes unexpectedly, and they don’t know what to do with him. smile
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 14 November 2017 16: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Duc ... even from Soviet times, an unprecedented harvest - the worst disaster in the village. For he always comes unexpectedly, and they don’t know what to do with him.

              Now they know, but at least there are no temporary transshipment points, and with frame technology it was possible to "rivet" them, for a month they could be kept there.
          3. Kent0001
            Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 45 New
            +2
            Harvest this year is a terrific combination of weather conditions, and not agro-breakouts, which have subsided due to our agricultural output reaching a new level. I doubt that this will happen again next season.
            .
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 14 November 2017 17: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Kent0001
              Harvest this year - cool weather

              A good harvest is always a coincidence, all over the world. Good agronomy, can only slightly "smooth the corners." Moreover, the lion's share of agricultural land in Russia is located in the risky farming zone. Out in the vaunted states, where agronomy has reached "unprecedented heights" (not to mention genetics), and then
              U.S. Wheat Crop Drops By Quarter Due To Drought
              So, a good harvest of bread, you have to rejoice, but somehow I look, and on this occasion, there are a lot of dissatisfied. If only to whine, how everything is "bad."
          4. Mih1974
            Mih1974 15 November 2017 04: 37 New
            +1
            Yes there is a problem, but you think sympathetically, this is not a Problem because "if the Problem can be solved for money, then this is not a Problem, it is Expenses" (c) Judean joke lol
            You just don’t want to understand that such a task (transporting and storing so much) has not been set before, but now it’s clear that manufacturers and carriers and heads of regions will solve it. Just have to rejoice that the problem is "where to go," because it is much better than "what to eat." Remember 90 and "pink salmon" and where is now this thawed chemical American chicken? laughing They will build granaries, flour mills, purchase wagons, decide everything - it would be something to carry good
        4. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 22 New
          +1
          But does it really matter what kind of wheat bread is from.
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 14 November 2017 13: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            what kind of wheat is bread

            No. Of the hard varieties _bread_ will not work. And then most of the grinding in the flour is replaced by corn (there are other substitutes). The taste is disgusting, it dries, you need to change the cooking mode.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 14 November 2017 14: 04 New
              +1
              Now they seem to be working on mixtures.
        5. APASUS
          APASUS 14 November 2017 19: 27 New
          0
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency, and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "swellders" ....

          A man with an American flag is writing on an avatar!
          1. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 14 November 2017 19: 56 New
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            A man with an American flag is writing on an avatar!

            It’s high time to ban it for such a thing. And the point.
        6. kos2910
          kos2910 15 November 2017 06: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          and we will eat more expensive "bread"

          Are you talking about mattresses? What do you care about us? We’ll figure it out ourselves, everything is fine with bread, although I practically don’t buy it myself, I don’t know how much it costs, but the export of agricultural products exceeded the export of arms - that’s good. Thanks for the sanctions!
      2. The black
        The black 14 November 2017 12: 17 New
        0
        The threat is that Granny Barbara shouted over the fence. laughing
      3. 210ox
        210ox 14 November 2017 12: 17 New
        +2
        The main thing is that for us this crop would not become a "disaster" as in previous years ..
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 November 2017 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          The main thing is that for us this crop would not become a "disaster" as in previous years ..

          It is necessary to buy agricultural zemlyots closer to Novorossiysk - you are guaranteed to sell ahead of everyone and at the right price - the cheapest logistics to the port - all exporters and outbid phones will be cut off even before harvesting begins
          1. Guillon
            Guillon 14 November 2017 12: 48 New
            +1
            In the Kuban, having come in large numbers, there isn’t much to let your own go! am
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Gillaton
              In the Kuban, having come in large numbers, there isn’t much to let your own go! am

              Here is an eccentric man - more people - easier to earn.
          2. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 14 November 2017 12: 51 New
            +2
            It is necessary to buy agricultural zemlyots closer to Novorossiysk

            Yeah. there such a “tail” of grain carriers is built-up from the port and, probably, to Krasnodar itself, if not further, not only the main ones, but all the bypasses are clogged with cars. For weeks, they stand in line, waiting for loading .. Local people are fumbling, neither drive nor pass. And what is being done on the Standard, taxi drivers refuse to carry passengers to the railway station, all are packed with wagons, people with things from the main pawn, across the bridge ....
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              It is necessary to buy agricultural zemlyots closer to Novorossiysk

              Yeah. there such a “tail” of grain carriers is built-up from the port and, probably, to Krasnodar itself, if not further, not only the main ones, but all the bypasses are clogged with cars. For weeks, they stand in line, waiting for loading .. Local people are fumbling, neither drive nor pass. And what is being done on the Standard, taxi drivers refuse to carry passengers to the railway station, all are packed with wagons, people with things from the main pawn, across the bridge ....

              In Novoros, I often wander, I did not observe such a collapse, to be honest
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 25 New
            +2
            To do this, you need another network of roads, with numerous interchanges, as well as another port to build.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              To do this, you need another network of roads, with numerous interchanges, as well as another port to build.

              I am writing about how to sell faster now. Exporters and resales are bought primarily from those who are closer to Novoros - delivery is cheaper. And about the roads and another port - right. It is necessary. From Rostov to Krasnodar, the M4 is good, and from Krasnodar to the sea - so-so ...
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 46 New
          0
          We have no other way.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 14 November 2017 14: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Kent0001
            We have no other way.

            That's right: first the battle for the crop, and then the battle with the crop! yes
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 14 November 2017 12: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: 79807420129
        For them, the very existence of Russia is considered a threat.


        Hey.
        In connection with what you have said, it is gratifying to realize that this threat is expanding not only in the military field. We sat for too long in the rearguard (not without effort to the same Americans). But from these small successes it is not necessary to arrange a race for laurels, but to systematically arrange an upgrade to all branches of the economy and avoid jubilation about rising prices for raw materials, especially for oil and gas, which are not endless. yes
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 47 New
          +1
          This is not about our bureaucrats. For them, oil prices are everything.
    2. SOF
      SOF 14 November 2017 12: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Shura Perm
      For them, any good news from Russia is a threat

      ... of course, because here again the Russian hackers distinguished themselves pretty well inflated with mildonium ...
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 14 November 2017 13: 54 New
      0
      McCain's best friends - mice
    4. Barbulator
      Barbulator 14 November 2017 14: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Shura Perm
      They are them any good news from Russia threat

      Shurik, did he even understand what he had done? Or do not control yourself from an excess of feelings, just to be noted?
  2. fedor13
    fedor13 14 November 2017 12: 08 New
    +3
    I didn’t understand about 30 tons, maybe 30000 tons?!?! Which is also not much.
  3. Yves762
    Yves762 14 November 2017 12: 10 New
    +4
    "Chicago wheat prices ward fell 25% since the beginning of harvesting in the Russian Federation in July and amounted to $ 4,19 per bushel (35,2 l) "
    - PFF .. bully .. Citizens, drop your "chambers", and go bargain to our stores to trade. There, prices for relevant goods are rising regardless of the harvest!
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 14 November 2017 12: 16 New
      +8
      I won’t be surprised if the price of bread, on the shelves of our stores, crawls up again! And our leadership will be able to explain this phenomenon to the public ... yes
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 14 November 2017 12: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Nasr
        I won’t be surprised if the price of bread, on the shelves of our stores, crawls up again! And our leadership will be able to explain this phenomenon to the public ... yes

        Again? Tell me, when did she crawl up? Bread as it cost in 12-13, and now it costs the same. Well, maybe the ruble has grown, but this is normal, because there is such a thing as inflation. Stop lying enough?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 14 November 2017 12: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Muvka

          Again? Tell me, when did she crawl up? Bread as it cost in 12-13, and now it costs the same. Well, maybe the ruble has grown, but this is normal, because there is such a thing as inflation. Stop lying enough?

          Hehe ...
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 14 November 2017 13: 00 New
            0
            Hehe ... It turns out the bread has fallen in price.
            And compare the prices of eggs and fish. And people like you constantly whine that everything is getting more expensive. But we compare 2 tables - and everything becomes cheaper. What will be your arguments?
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Muvka
              Hehe ... It turns out the bread has fallen in price.

              The picture is not readable .... negative corrected wonderful ..
              And gasoline also fell in price ... And the metal fell in price the same ... And electricity ... bully

              By the way, what kind of grain was collected? ... record holder ..
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 14 November 2017 13: 21 New
                0
                We kind of talked about bread. That prices for it due to huge fees are rising. Is not it so? Well, if you want, let's calculate how many points fell in price, and how many went up. I am for.
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 14 November 2017 14: 06 New
                  0
                  About bread - they will bake you a loaf of feed wheat, add chemistry - the price will still fall in price ... the main thing is that the administration will rejoice ...
                  1. ghby
                    ghby 15 November 2017 10: 30 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Nasr
                    About bread - they will bake you a loaf of feed wheat, add chemistry - the price will still fall in price ... the main thing is that the administration will rejoice ...

                    Which year I buy bread in the same place for 30 rubles per bun (white gray - it doesn’t matter), they bring it 2 times a day, with a crispy crust, it reminds one from childhood.
                    What varied is that now the competition in our city for essential products is bearing fruit. For bread - I want fresh bread that is stored in wooden trays without bags for 30 rubles - please, I want it in a bag locked in a supermarket, please, but it is more expensive. I want milk - which turns sour into yogurt - please, I would like with chemistry - please go to the supermarket, though the farmers also opened a department there - they sell the same milk with a 3-day shelf life. Moreover, access to quality goods has all groups of the population, and not like in the United States only for a lot of money.
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 15 November 2017 11: 56 New
                      0
                      Quote: ghby

                      ... with a crisp, reminiscent of one from childhood.
                      .

                      Hehe, apparently hard wheat is delivered to your city (less than 1% of the crop is grown in the country) ..... otherwise - fodder + very good chemistry, with a crust! tongue bully
              2. Nasrat
                Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 23 New
                0
                If you look not at the “shaft” with which, of course, everything is in order, but at the quality of grain produced in our country, you will have to admit that it is decreasing, and very significantly.

                Durum wheat production (grades I and II) in 2016 amounted to about 600 thousand tons out of 73,3 million tons of the total harvest, or less than 1%. At the same time, the quality of soft wheat also decreases: in 2016, grain of the III class accounted for 22,3% (in 2015 - 36%), IV class - 49,1% (44,1%), and V class 28,6 - 19,9% (11%). This year, the imbalance towards wheat of IV – V classes will only increase: the share of grain of III class will decrease to 12–XNUMX%.
                It should be said that for the needs of the baking industry, Soviet GOSTs allowed the use of wheat not lower than class III (22-24% gluten). Now, bread is baked everywhere from flour, ground from a mixture of grain of III – IV class, using special “improving” additives: this is cheaper. But the protein from this in bread, by itself, is not added. The same goes for flour, pasta and other cereal groceries. So if we take it “according to protein” (gluten), then our agriculture is still far from the level of the late 70s – early 80s.

                By the way, IV and V classes of wheat were introduced only by GOST of 1990, and before that all wheat with a gluten content below 22% was classified as fodder, that is, exclusively suitable for livestock feed. But for the market there is only profit, and if the price of the goods cannot be raised to the right degree, then you have to reduce the quality of the products.
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 26 New
                  0
                  Our average compatriot annually consumes 118-120 kg of baked goods (in terms of flour), which provides about a third of the calorie content of his diet. Since “bread” calories, along with “potato” ones, are the cheapest, in the case of falling incomes of the population, the consumption of bread, absolute and relative, increases, and if they grow, it decreases.

                  From this it is clear that the cost of the main types of bread, if necessary, turns out to be, one way or another, tied to the level of the minimum wage (minimum wage) in a particular region. This link means the ability to buy a tenth of a minimum wage of 1500 "bread" kilocalories per day, which roughly corresponds to 500 g of white bread.
                  Consequently, the chain of improving the quality of grain produced in Russia can be launched only from the level of increasing incomes of the population and subject to extremely flexible and precise state regulation of each link in this chain in the reverse order - relatively speaking, from the counter to the field.

                  Unfortunately, one cannot count on this in the near future, which means that, apparently, a new aggravation of the "bread problem" inside the country, despite record grain crops, is just around the corner.
                  1. ghby
                    ghby 15 November 2017 10: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Consequently, the chain of improving the quality of grain produced in Russia can be launched only from the level of increasing incomes of the population and subject to extremely flexible and precise state regulation of each of the links in this chain in the reverse order - relatively speaking, from the counter to the field.

                    Well, the climate would change - then definitely improve :)
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: Nasr
                  If you look not at the “shaft” with which, of course, everything is in order, but at the quality of grain produced in our country, you will have to admit that it is decreasing, and very significantly.

                  Durum wheat production (grades I and II) in 2016 amounted to about 600 thousand tons out of 73,3 million tons of the total harvest, or less than 1%. At the same time, the quality of soft wheat also decreases: in 2016, grain of the III class accounted for 22,3% (in 2015 - 36%), IV class - 49,1% (44,1%), and V class 28,6 - 19,9% (11%). This year, the imbalance towards wheat of IV – V classes will only increase: the share of grain of III class will decrease to 12–XNUMX%.
                  It should be said that for the needs of the baking industry, Soviet GOSTs allowed the use of wheat not lower than class III (22-24% gluten). Now, bread is baked everywhere from flour, ground from a mixture of grain of III – IV class, using special “improving” additives: this is cheaper. But the protein from this in bread, by itself, is not added. The same goes for flour, pasta and other cereal groceries. So if we take it “according to protein” (gluten), then our agriculture is still far from the level of the late 70s – early 80s.

                  By the way, IV and V classes of wheat were introduced only by GOST of 1990, and before that all wheat with a gluten content below 22% was classified as fodder, that is, exclusively suitable for livestock feed. But for the market there is only profit, and if the price of the goods cannot be raised to the right degree, then you have to reduce the quality of the products.

                  Gluten 22% is cool ...
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 28 New
                +1
                No matter what grade it is, everything is suitable for processing and consumption.
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 31 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  No matter what grade it is, everything is suitable for processing and consumption.


                  I agree, poultry farmers and pig farms rub their hands ...
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 14 November 2017 14: 06 New
                    +2
                    And you yourself can bake bread, maneuvering recipes.
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 14 November 2017 14: 09 New
                      +1
                      You can bake yourself, you can furry yourself, you can carpentry, potato and that by yourself .... because the Russian people did not die! It’s not for the sovereign to hope well!
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 14 November 2017 14: 21 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Nasr
                        You can bake yourself, you can furry yourself, you can carpentry, potato and that by yourself .... because the Russian people did not die! It’s not for the sovereign to hope well!

                        Flax and cotton to grow yourself
                        Sew clothes yourself;))))
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 November 2017 13: 10 New
        +2
        Duc ... it was with oil and gasoline.
        If the price of oil has fallen, then gasoline will rise in price: the oil industry needs to compensate for the losses.
        If the price of oil has risen, then gasoline will rise in price: for refinery feedstock has risen in price. smile
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 49 New
        0
        And there is. Now the cheapest bread figs knows what they are making. And the fact that of the normal components is no longer cheap.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 14 November 2017 12: 35 New
      +3
      and how many rubles did your bread rise in price?
  4. Sergei75
    Sergei75 14 November 2017 12: 14 New
    +1
    For whom is the threat? We, in Russia, can even turn something good in such a way that it is no longer good.
    The problem is that the crop is big, but its cost is higher than the sale price! Is this how we manage to work at a loss?
    1. hrych
      hrych 14 November 2017 12: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: Sergei75
      the crop is big, but its cost is higher than the sale price!

      What are you talking about? What a fright laughing Thanks to the Dark One, Russia is the first in the export of wheat and the third in the export of grain (neither tsarism nor Bolshevism could feed the country by the way). And here is another hysteria because we knock out the main competitor from the market. A big crop, we can dump and throw a competitor out of the market. A bunch of farmers will go bankrupt, but you need a trillion for strategic nuclear forces and so on. You can understand and forgive them wassat
      1. Sergei75
        Sergei75 14 November 2017 12: 45 New
        +2
        Knock out? something I’m delaying, today we will fill up the whole world with our grain at a bargain price, because we can’t practically store it, unlike our import competitors, but the cost is higher than the sale price, so we won’t be able to give loans, so we won’t sow so much next year, so the price will skyrocket and we will buy, of course, unless we get more loans , and today's do not restructure.
        1. hrych
          hrych 14 November 2017 12: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: Sergei75
          because we can’t practically store it

          You probably don’t know, but we have what, what, and the elevator capacities, the State Reserve’s storage facilities are simply superior to anyone else. Therefore, do not look for cons in good, you hope not an enemy of our people, there are enough of them without you laughing
          1. Sergei75
            Sergei75 14 November 2017 16: 54 New
            0
            what was and what is, everyone wants fast money.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 14 November 2017 12: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: hrych
        You can understand them and forgive wassat

        Yeah, absolve sins ... Sobarovat ... Sing a waste ... After, once a year, plant flowers and fix the fence. yes And so yes, however, they caught up and overtook. Even somewhat unexpectedly, but at the same time calmly, sort of as it should be. Only, here, the mattresses complain ... laughing Don’t go to your grandmother - now they must bring some kind of sanctions to our agriculture. yes
      3. ando_bor
        ando_bor 14 November 2017 13: 22 New
        +2
        There are already more than half of the hired refugees and their brainless victims in the film - the information war in action, whine any positive.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 51 New
      0
      So the production is built. Managers in the field are sawing the budgets of agricultural holdings together with suppliers of goods and materials. Nothing new.
  5. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 14 November 2017 12: 15 New
    +1
    so in Russia wheat prices fell
    Everyone keeps corn, because prices below the plinth
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 14 November 2017 12: 17 New
      +3
      We are waiting for the price of bread to fall .... bully




      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 14 November 2017 12: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Nasr
        We are waiting for the price of bread to fall .... bully

        )))))
        Yeah .... :)
      2. Ankipelgygyrgyn
        Ankipelgygyrgyn 14 November 2017 12: 21 New
        +8
        The flour has fallen noticeably. 2 kg bag of premium wheat flour - 35 rubles, and was in the region of fifty kopecks.
      3. Muvka
        Muvka 14 November 2017 12: 36 New
        +1
        And could you attach a table with an average salary to that plate in those days?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 14 November 2017 12: 51 New
          0
          go to no and look, I’m not your reference ..
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 14 November 2017 13: 05 New
            +1
            You have posted this table. And do not indicate the difference in rubles. You are an ordinary cheap manipulator.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 14 New
              0
              The manipulation is that the state in 1947-53 tried to remove the heavy burden from the population, unlike in 2014-2017 tongue
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 33 New
                +3
                Unfortunately, now our economy is not planned, but market - there are other rules on it. And due to what is the burden to remove now?
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 14 November 2017 13: 34 New
                  +3
                  Due to the robbery of the population !!! laughing
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 57 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Unfortunately, now our economy is not planned, but market - there are other rules on it. And due to what is the burden to remove now?

                  And I thought that the planned economy, among other things, the Union collapsed ...
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 14 November 2017 14: 08 New
                    +1
                    The Soviet Union ruined the planned provision of half of the world, for everyone - for a gift.
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 14 November 2017 14: 12 New
                      0
                      I would add-betrayal of the leadership of the country !!! - this is the main thing!
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 14 November 2017 14: 22 New
                      0
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      The Soviet Union ruined the planned provision of half of the world, for everyone - for a gift.

                      And that too
                  2. Kent0001
                    Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 52 New
                    +1
                    Sorry minus canceled.
      4. Sergei75
        Sergei75 14 November 2017 12: 49 New
        +1
        the price of bread will not fall!
        Each loaf now has a value of at least 2 + profit, as shops sell bread from bakeries on the terms of returning products if it is not sold, sometimes the return is up to 40%. instead of forecasting demand, stores just take ... as much as you want, no responsibility.
      5. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 14 November 2017 12: 54 New
        +3
        Not enough for bread? Or did he just write?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 14 November 2017 12: 55 New
          0
          Is he ready to send bread and pasta every day? I will send a p / invoice - will you pay?
          bully
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 November 2017 12: 20 New
    +4
    Russian "liberals" are already playing this article for their own benefit. It turns out this is nature and only it gave such an opportunity, and those who plowed the land, planted bread, and then cleaned it, they are not taken into account.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 14 November 2017 12: 27 New
      0
      So then they are liberals - they say, for example, that "frost-general" won the war.
      Well, that is, that we ourselves are not capable of anything - nature helps.
      And that is characteristic, all these speakers without interruption as to the selection of one well-known nationality.
      And they also like to question with a tear and anguish - "Well, for what, for which you do not love us?"
  7. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 14 November 2017 12: 23 New
    +3
    A large grain crop in Russia has become the main reason for the fall in wheat prices in the United States, according to The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) ... As a result, the United States closes the Wheat Association sales office in Egypt ...

    Poor - poor America, well, everywhere Russia offends her ..... I'm crying .... tongue lol
  8. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 14 November 2017 12: 24 New
    +1
    like living in Siberia:
    our farmers here howl that they’ve harvested wheat: 1) they collected before ... I.; 2) but there is no place to store it - all elevators are busy, because they can’t cope, i.e. now it rots on the street under wet snow; 3) they sell for nothing, and the prices in the stores for bread, best case scenariodo not change; 4) well, respectively, that they do not have time to sell for the most part will be lost, and loans must be given ...
    so the crop is good, but it’s not enough to grow it, it is also necessary to implement it. and he unfortunately has the property of deteriorating.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 November 2017 12: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: K0
      like living in Siberia:
      our farmers here howl that they’ve harvested wheat: 1) they collected before ... I.; 2) but there is no place to store it - all elevators are busy, because they can’t cope, i.e. now it rots on the street under wet snow; 3) they sell for nothing, and the prices in the stores for bread, best case scenariodo not change; 4) well, respectively, that they do not have time to sell for the most part will be lost, and loans must be given ...
      so the crop is good, but it’s not enough to grow it, it is also necessary to implement it. and he unfortunately has the property of deteriorating.

      It is better to build an elevator for these loans - if they are not enough
      My father-in-law is quite a large farmer - there are so many bunts ...
      In general, the most profitable culture is SPK Sunflower.
      1. Cxnumx
        Cxnumx 14 November 2017 12: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It is better to build an elevator for these loans - if they are not enough

        loans for the elevator do not subsidize (and HBs how much money is needed for it), and for planting crops - yes, but, in my opinion, it is necessary to sow a certain number of hectares
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: K0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          It is better to build an elevator for these loans - if they are not enough

          loans for the elevator do not subsidize (and HBs how much money is needed for it), and for planting crops - yes, but, in my opinion, it is necessary to sow a certain number of hectares

          An elevator from 2-3 million tanks costs
          Subsidies are limited, give only to "their"
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 38 New
            +2
            A good elevator will cost 500 million rubles.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 14 November 2017 13: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              A good elevator will cost 500 million rubles.

              That is yes. Very good. Acting.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 14 November 2017 14: 26 New
                0
                Yes. With a carefully grown _ your_ civil engineer, you can fold.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 14 November 2017 15: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: sogdy
                  Yes. With a carefully grown _ your_ civil engineer, you can fold.

                  Are you in the subject?
                  Did you find out about this, have you worked with this?
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 15 November 2017 07: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: K0
                    At smaller Novosibirsk agricultural enterprises

                    Nii, I won’t catch up. The client has an entire institution that has grown from the young blockheads the current main skeleton. And several enterprises in the region. So everything can be worked out on the spot, with the locals, from the villagers (the same Nsk), in stages, to self-sufficiency.
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 14 November 2017 12: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: K0
      like living in Siberia:

      here and take care of storage and processing. So I personally do not interfere, only FOR.

      And yes, they don’t make bread from grain. So how can a wheat crop (hard !?) this year affect the cost of soft wheat, eggs, milk and butter, maintenance and repair of equipment in THIS year?
      1. Cxnumx
        Cxnumx 14 November 2017 12: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: sogdy
        here and take care of storage and processing. So I personally do not interfere, only FOR

        I don’t get involved, I don’t want to sell my organs in order to give loans.
        Quote: sogdy
        And yes, they don’t make bread from grain.

        it is made from flour, flour can be of different grades, unfortunately, according to Rospotrebnadzor, a lot of manufacturers go to reduce the cost of production and use cheaper grades instead of the highest grade.
        Well, last year we also had a record, only then it was sold at higher prices.
        and if you want specifics, here is part of the interview:
        Smaller Novosibirsk agricultural enterprises and the contracts for the supply of grain abroad do not. Usually, wheat was sold only in the domestic market. This year, Russia harvested a large crop and grain prices in the country fell sharply.
        https://news.mail.ru/economics/31627787/
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 14 November 2017 13: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: K0
          flour can be of different grades

          Aha, and consists not only of grinding wheat.
          About hard / soft did not hear - and this is the essence of the issue.
          Quote: K0
          and if you want specifics

          someone rushed under the tanks to live like that.
          Quote: K0
          I don’t get involved, I don’t want to sell my organs in order to give loans

          Quote: Krasnodar
          It is better to build an elevator for these loans - if they are not enough

          Take off your bodies - or it will remain so, only no one will regret you. Kismet, damn it, it was not necessary to throw under the tanks - now so under the tanks and until the end of life.
          And if without mats - sponsors, investments and other miracles to look for yourself and within the country - otherwise you will pay for debts.
          1. Cxnumx
            Cxnumx 14 November 2017 13: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: sogdy
            Take off your bodies - or it will remain so, only no one will regret you. Kismet, damn it, it was not necessary to throw under the tanks - now so under the tanks and until the end of life.
            And if without mats - sponsors, investments and other miracles to look for yourself and within the country - otherwise you will pay for debts.

            Yes, no one needs your pity and anyone else, especially in Siberia, they are flimsy here and now they do not live long. just rejoice only in the fact that in the whole country a huge harvest is of little use. it’s necessary to rejoice when this whole crop is sold.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 14 November 2017 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: K0
              in your pity and someone there, especially in Siberia

              So I am in Siberia. Today is -23. The three branches of my family have lived here (north) for at least 10000 years. So sho mmeeest we. What kind of crops, what kind of wheat (and not only) is not new.
              Quote: K0
              rejoice only in the fact that in the whole country a huge harvest is of little use.

              That's why they were preoccupied (a good word!) With selling across the border, which is closer than the elevator, storage and processing with their warehouses. In order for _possible_ revenues to build their processing and storage complexes. But, alas, already SAMI.
              Have you been to the areas of goldfish? There SUCH (aspirated!) Roads, transporters with tanks sit down. Roads for money from mining. The troops also contain. And in 1916 it was unprofitable.
              Well shaw, am I wrong?
              1. Cxnumx
                Cxnumx 14 November 2017 15: 35 New
                +2
                Quote: sogdy
                Well shaw, am I wrong?

                still right in what? that you have to sell a woman abroad. fine. only there you do not need rotten grain. or give away for nothing, so as not to cover the costs - then all such hard workers will send this forest with agricultural products, and again we will take products abroad. farmers, I repeat - the farmers!should elevators also build? and you did not confuse them with the oligarchs from oil? where did they get so much money that 1) they need to find - come for such a loan to the bank, they will send you to ku ...; 2) then give it back, and there are not so high profits, especially if you can’t sell the goods.
                you are talking nonsense here, frankly: the farmer must grow up, and build his own granaries, and sell them abroad. I want to add and gobble up myself, too, + I must get profit from this.
                PS and if you think that this is a "cry of the soul" - in vain. I work not on a farm, but in the field of public procurement, and no special Our goods there, very often, have no advantages.
            2. sogdy
              sogdy 14 November 2017 14: 09 New
              0
              Quote: K0
              it’s necessary to rejoice when this whole crop is sold.

              you have to rejoice when the bread in the store for 12 and 16 kopecks a kilogram loaf will lie. One that does not dry for 3-4 days without any packages.
              1. Cxnumx
                Cxnumx 14 November 2017 15: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: sogdy
                One that does not dry for 3-4 days without any packages.

                then your neglect of the difficulties of our manufacturers look even more delusional. you already decide, and then rushing back and forth.
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 14 November 2017 15: 43 New
                0
                Quote: sogdy
                Quote: K0
                it’s necessary to rejoice when this whole crop is sold.

                you have to rejoice when the bread in the store for 12 and 16 kopecks a kilogram loaf will lie. One that does not dry for 3-4 days without any packages.

                Yeah. So that we had everything, but we had nothing for it ...
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    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 56 New
      +1
      And the elevator in general does not work for us for the second year. Nobody needs.
  9. alfa19638
    alfa19638 14 November 2017 12: 26 New
    +3
    Another reason to extend the sanctions!
  10. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 14 November 2017 12: 36 New
    +2
    SNN, BBS: urgently to the room! The battle for the harvest! Russian hackers broke into the servers of the Chigak TP and collapsed wheat prices! Russia has experienced drought-causing nanoweapons in the United States! Putin imposed an embargo on the delivery of rains in the United States! smile
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 14 November 2017 12: 43 New
    +3
    A crop of wheat is a threat; a crop of wheat is a threat again. Perhaps an unprecedented harvest of Zircons and Sarmatians will help from zoological Russophobia?
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 November 2017 12: 52 New
    +3
    Waiting for sanctions? For the intervention of wheat? Does aggressive Russian wheat take over markets?
  13. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 14 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +2
    I’m wondering: in Russia there has always been a problem with preserving the harvest, and therefore, under the USSR, grain silos were systematically built. I’m talking about how many elevators were built in Putin's Russia (stadiums, Olympiads, summits, etc., please do not remember, hehe wink ) or is everything originally planned for export, why store it? winked
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 November 2017 13: 45 New
      +1
      Now we need to immediately conclude a contract for wheat and cereals for export, make containers, harvested, agreed upon in the contract, the crop directly to these special containers for grain and sent abroad.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 14 November 2017 14: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Now we need to immediately conclude a contract for wheat and cereals for export, make containers, harvested, agreed upon in the contract, the crop directly to these special containers for grain and sent abroad.

        )))))
        Everything must be cost-effective
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 November 2017 19: 17 New
          +1
          With containers for collection and storage it will be even more profitable, grain will disappear less and be lost during transportation, as well as simplify loading unloading ..
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 14 November 2017 14: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      how many elevators were built in Putin's Russia

      I know of three in our area - not state ones.
      And who promised that the state, by subsidizing manufacturers, will build itself?
    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 59 New
      0
      Dofig built. And still build. Plus there is storage technology in plastic sleeves. So, Kargil will soon produce more in Putin's Russia than in the territory of Russia.
  14. Elevator
    Elevator in the building 14 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +4
    I wake up, it means, from the morning - and out of habit I threaten the United States instead of washing.
    I sit on the train, greet friends - and immediately threaten the United States together.
    He came to work, he was promised with the guys - we sit on the “matinee” to threaten the United States.
    And then another dinner with threats, and the return trip, again with threats. And at home we always threaten with family.
    This is the meaning of our simple Russian life - always and everywhere to threaten the United States. By definition, we have no other business, well, perhaps sometimes we are distracted by the Baltic extinctions, but by the pan with Europe, but this is so on weekends. Soon, excuse me, the gases after the "music stew" will be called an attack on the "free world", and the soup itself will be doping.
    What is that at all, is there at least something in us that does not pose a threat to them ..?
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      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 14 November 2017 13: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Marquis Cat
        But it doesn’t occur to you that it’s your media that specifically collects any “bad” news about Russia and replicate it just to assure you that it’s the “whole world” that is against you so that you don’t think about anything else, except about the "mischief" of the US and the EU and did not ask "uncomfortable" questions to their authorities?

        No, it doesn’t come. Because we atlichno know what our power is, we don’t put pots on our heads and don’t ask uncomfortable questions. Because it is a dream of striped freaks and other Europedists - what would we all have done for ourselves. And we, you know, somehow live. And we are going to continue, even when, according to the precepts of Ilyich, the West will finally rot. Cadaverous spots around the world already, fact. drinks
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 14 November 2017 13: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Marquis Cat
    Why rejoice? Resellers will take out all the grain from Russia and sell it for currency, and we will eat more expensive "bread" from low-grade wheat with Turkish "swellders" ....

    And put in Putin, Putin, because he, personally, “will take out all the grain from Russia to the dealers”, but he will take all the currency! Then your thought will be complete!
  16. Boris Tomarov_2
    Boris Tomarov_2 14 November 2017 17: 20 New
    0
    What, then I don’t understand what a lot of 30 tons, only three KAMAZ trucks, or rather one transport plane or 76 silt with incomplete loading. But I don’t think that the grain was transported by plane, on ships the consignment should consist of several (tens-hundreds) thousand tons.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 November 2017 19: 18 New
      +1
      Rather, this batch is trial.
  17. Orionvit
    Orionvit 14 November 2017 17: 41 New
    0
    At the same time, American wheat will make up only 15% of world exports, while in the 1970s this figure was at the level of 50 percent.
    Because everything was sown with corn, which is much more profitable.
  18. Roust
    Roust 14 November 2017 18: 27 New
    0
    I don’t think we should brag about it. We must think like fields from saboteurs - horses - lovers to save fire. it is for the future.
  19. Black5Raven
    Black5Raven 14 November 2017 20: 01 New
    0
    In the last article, there was a mention in the comments about the quality of grain, but unfortunately it doesn’t take away all the higher grades, far from all. Crops of relatively low-quality grain are increasing.
  20. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 14 November 2017 22: 53 New
    0
    There is a good film about agricultural and the situation of farmers in the Sha. Called Food Corporation. There, the mafia took everything from them from agriculture - they make money. So it’s not surprising that they are worried. Real competition prevents them from earning superprofits.