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New bill VRU: Russia is obliged to economically contain Donbass

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Narpdep I LIE from Petro Poroshenko’s Bloc Ivan Vinnyk, who, as Ukrainian media previously reported, tried to initiate a complete rupture of diplomatic relations with the Russian Federation, made a new statement that draws attention to itself. According to Vinnik, in the updated bill on the status of Donbass, now there is no mention of the Minsk agreements.


From Vinnik's statement:
We completely cleared the mention of the Minsk Agreement in any form. In the first reading, it was mentioned here and there that Ukraine must ensure the implementation of interstate and international agreements in connection with the war with the Russian Federation. This could be interpreted as the implementation of the Minsk agreements. We also removed these mentions in order not to excite the hall.


Vinnik said that in the new version of the bill all responsibility for the maintenance of Donbass lies with Russia. At the same time, Vinnik, habitually for Kiev, calls LDNR “occupied territories”.

New bill VRU: Russia is obliged to economically contain Donbass


Winnick:
This will stop any discussion about the payment of pensions to citizens who are there. This is an obligation of the Russian Federation, or citizens will want to return more to the usual constitutional order within the territory of Ukraine.


At the same time, Vinnik said that he had not yet decided in the Verkhovna Rada whether to maintain the status of "ATO" for a military operation in Donbas or not. According to the people's deputy, the Supreme Commander will personally make this decision.
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 13 November 2017 15: 12 New
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    ... Russia is obliged to economically support the Donbass ...

    Here it is ... the essence of the non-brothers ...
    ... We have completely cleared the mention of the Minsk agreements in any form ...

    Cleaned up in zRada? Do they know about this in Berlin and Paris?
    ... In the first reading, it was mentioned in some places that Ukraine should ensure the implementation of interstate and international agreements in connection with the war with the Russian Federation ...

    The trouble is, the Russian Federation did not show up for war., Pan-and-panheads in their repertoire ...
    ... This will stop any discussions regarding the payment of pensions to citizens who are there ...

    It was necessary to start with this, the social payments to the hard workers hunching on b / y, on / to Ukraine were not paid from the very beginning of the unleashed massacre in the Donbass, the debt was accumulating ... And here again - with a stroke of the pen all obligations to drop ...
    Like they kept, tired of these parasites ...
    For whom are these cheap sketches ...
    1. Logall
      Logall 13 November 2017 15: 16 New
      11
      Quote: Andrey K
      ... Russia is obliged to economically support the Donbass ...

      Here it is ... the essence of the non-brothers ...
      Like they kept, tired of these parasites ...
      For whom are these cheap sketches ...

      They simply refuse this territory ... It is drawn in front of Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 13 November 2017 15: 25 New
        13
        Quote: Logall
        ... They simply refuse this territory ... It is drawn in front of Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

        So they would have gathered courage and would have spoken directly about it, if they had designated the border along the Dnieper and wouldn’t have to contain them, it would suddenly have turned out that Donbass is self-sufficient.
        This is the same story that they sang about Crimea - parasites, prisoners, donors.
        Time has passed and let's poke around with your enchanting lawsuits about lost profits.
        1. Logall
          Logall 13 November 2017 15: 34 New
          15
          In Crimea, for them, 1 lost profit is Sevastopol for NATO ...!
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 13 November 2017 15: 53 New
            20
            Quote: Logall
            In Crimea, for them, 1 lost profit is Sevastopol for NATO ...!

            So Sanya would have been free, would have recognized the independence of LDNR long ago, and there would have been a completely different matter, otherwise Minsky, squeaks. what
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 16: 11 New
          +7
          Quote: Andrey K
          This is the same story that they sang about Crimea - parasites, prisoners, donors.

          Svidamya strange concept of subsidization !! wassat wassat wassat along the way, they obviously confuse him with something ... cannot be subsidized 3 regions, as a result of the loss of which the Hohlyat economy collapsed by tens of percent !!! lol lol lol
          1. Going
            Going 13 November 2017 19: 57 New
            +9
            Why is it strange. just pure Ragul - everything is for us, and we are dummies ...
      2. volodya
        volodya 13 November 2017 15: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: Logall
        They simply refuse this territory ... It is drawn in front of Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

        Refuses then refuse, but they will bomb! As I understand it! DNI and LC will provide for themselves, do not fire at them! And that’s it.
        1. Logall
          Logall 13 November 2017 15: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: volodya
          Quote: Logall
          They simply refuse this territory ... It is drawn in front of Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

          Refuses then refuse, but they will bomb! I get it!

          Of course they will! They are not just like that, they are bombing the aggressor ... And the bill is a legitimate reason for it!
      3. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 13 November 2017 15: 42 New
        +1
        Give these territories right away, we’ll figure it out ...
        1. PalBor
          PalBor 13 November 2017 15: 50 New
          +3
          Here. For starters, in the administrative borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions ... And then we'll see yes
      4. svp67
        svp67 13 November 2017 16: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        Drawn before Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

        And there is the administration and state bodies of the Russian Federation? No. And if so, then by all international laws this territory is not considered occupied.
        But the fact that they DIRECTLY REFUSE to support the citizens whom they consider to be theirs is not only contrary to the “Minsk agreements” and they de facto REFUSE these territories. I really hope that our international lawyers will take advantage of these “gifts”.
        1. major147
          major147 13 November 2017 18: 52 New
          +1
          Yes, they can’t contain their not “occupied” citizens, beatings.
      5. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 16: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Logall
        Quote: Andrey K
        ... Russia is obliged to economically support the Donbass ...

        Here it is ... the essence of the non-brothers ...
        Like they kept, tired of these parasites ...
        For whom are these cheap sketches ...

        They simply refuse this territory ... It is drawn in front of Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

        in the event of the adoption of such a law, Russia should be given 3 days of Svidamit to clear the entire territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions from its military, and take them under its wing !!! Naturally with the destruction of all hohlyatskoy scum, which will try to shell these territories !!!
        1. Logall
          Logall 13 November 2017 16: 22 New
          +9
          Buddy hi , the fact is that in fact they refuse people! And the territory - occupied, temporarily! by locals, apparently ...
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 16: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: Logall
            Buddy hi , the fact is that in fact they refuse people! And the territory - occupied, temporarily! by locals, apparently ...

            drinks drinks drinks hi Well ... you need to look at the situation !!! request
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 13 November 2017 15: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      For whom are these cheap sketches ...

      So the soil is probed. I suppose that in the next bill the Parliament will oblige Russia to contain the entire Ukraine, so to speak, "from Xian to Don" laughing
    3. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 13 November 2017 16: 26 New
      +1
      It’s time to deal with the non-brothers already.
      1. major147
        major147 13 November 2017 18: 54 New
        +1
        Better themselves, no one will deal with them. Fuck about them ...
    4. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 13 November 2017 16: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      ... Russia is obliged to economically support the Donbass ...

      Here it is ... the essence of the non-brothers ...

      I was not even surprised! They still require that we keep their Radu (there they turned off the heating and svidomye freeze ..)))))
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 13 November 2017 15: 12 New
    +3
    This Vinnik is quite a good delusional generator. yes
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 13 November 2017 15: 29 New
      +4
      Yura, there are such a dozen of them in 13 pieces laughing
      I already read their “statements” as nonsense from chamber No. 6
      Hi, you bastard! drinks
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 13 November 2017 21: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: stock buildbat
        wickedness!

        belay
        Hic ... what
        Yes, only one person in the History of Mankind was kinder than me! yes His name was Jesus Christ. smile
        Hi, three phase! drinks
        Well, briefly describe to me the 2nd law of Kirchhoff. wink Well, so that I finally christened you electricians and do not call names request historian ... winked
        Waiting at the HQ on Friday. With an abstract. hi
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 13 November 2017 21: 36 New
          +3
          Agreed. In 19: 00 you will not be there - you lost laughing hi
          Will you slander history essay
  3. Makarov
    Makarov 13 November 2017 15: 15 New
    0
    According to the people's deputy, such a decision will be made personally by the supreme commander.
    ... and it will be Petya or Misha, it will depend on their compliance, only the result will be one ...
  4. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 13 November 2017 15: 15 New
    +2
    sold LDNR skakuasy) just the question is, if it’s the territory of the Russian Federation, is it the territory of the Russian Federation?
  5. Simon
    Simon 13 November 2017 15: 16 New
    +2
    I understood that Ukraine completely abandons the republics of the DPR and the DRN.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 13 November 2017 15: 19 New
      +4
      No, she refuses only their maintenance financially. And the territory reserves.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 15: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Sergey53
        No, she refuses only their maintenance financially. And the territory reserves.

        Very clever (for Ukraine), only stupid.
  6. Sergey53
    Sergey53 13 November 2017 15: 16 New
    +1
    They figured out how to push themselves away and not pay pensions, but they did not decide how to with ATO status. We galloped, we galloped.
  7. Nemesis
    Nemesis 13 November 2017 15: 17 New
    +5
    And in Russia, it’s time to introduce passports of Non-Citizens of the Russian Federation for the entire audience with Russophobia ... As for the Donbass, it is occupied and the occupier is Ukraine ...
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 November 2017 15: 21 New
    0
    I understand that this is a veiled form of transfer ukroinoy republics under the official jurisdiction of Russia? ?? recourse Then we are only in favor !!!
  9. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 15: 23 New
    +2
    Whoever holds the Donbass dances it.
    And what do raguli boil? Crimea, Donbass ... Easy came, easy gone. request
  10. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 13 November 2017 15: 23 New
    0
    The very word deputy is already causing rejection ... What the Duma balabol, what is in their parliament ... Like two boots - a pair.
    1. Slovak
      Slovak 13 November 2017 20: 58 New
      +1
      Fedya, which one will you be from? It is from the plow that you bring happiness to your country?
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 13 November 2017 22: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Slovak
        Fedya, which one will you be from? It is from the plow that you bring happiness to your country?

        Yes, not one of yours ... You pluck the grass, not moo.
  11. ded100
    ded100 13 November 2017 15: 33 New
    +2
    The Commander-in-Chief has not yet sobered up for decision-making! wassat
  12. K-50
    K-50 13 November 2017 16: 35 New
    0
    Vinnik said that in the new version of the bill, all responsibility for the maintenance of Donbass rests with Russia

    This person forgot one thing: whoever pays for the girl dances her. The campaign he is so veiled Donbass gives Russia.
  13. Domestic cat
    Domestic cat 13 November 2017 16: 51 New
    +2
    Within the boundaries of the regions and not only these, it’s time to simply transfer Russia to Russia, including Kiev, and let Westerners and others like them dump to their historic small homeland (their homeland is not worthy of a capital letter for growing such freaks). yes
    1. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 13 November 2017 17: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Home Cat
      Within the boundaries of the regions and not only these, it’s time to simply transfer Russia to Russia, including Kiev, and let Westerners and others like them dump to their historic small homeland (their homeland is not worthy of a capital letter for growing such freaks). yes

      Everything has its time Olenka ..! love
  14. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 13 November 2017 16: 59 New
    0
    and you don’t need to adopt Vinnik ?!
    Why trifle something ???
  15. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 November 2017 16: 59 New
    +4
    Ukrainians are strange. They call us "Donbabwe", they openly hate, shell them, but at the same time they want to return the territory. Ukraine does not care about the LDNR population. And so much so that they are ready to kill the entire population, from small to large, and their hand will not flinch.

    Also, "Russia is obliged to economically support the Donbass." This is so.
  16. Galleon
    Galleon 13 November 2017 17: 15 New
    +2
    Guys, so that all our enemies would be such cretins as these seem to be!
  17. ZVS
    ZVS 13 November 2017 18: 00 New
    0
    This "cleaned up" will cost Ukraine dearly.
  18. Romanenko
    Romanenko 13 November 2017 20: 44 New
    0
    The obligation of a country to economically maintain any regions, as a rule, extends to its own territories ...
    Is this recognition of the DNI’s affiliation to the Russian Federation ???
    Or a typo with a reservation?
    Or maybe traditional stupidity and thoughtlessness?
    In the Verkhovna Rada it is all the time.
  19. Slovak
    Slovak 13 November 2017 20: 55 New
    0
    like r ... in the hole, hang out and do not drown.
  20. Slam
    Slam 13 November 2017 23: 55 New
    0
    Quote: svp67

    1
    svp67 Today, 16: 04 ↑
    Quote: Logall
    Drawn before Europe - '' Russia has occupied, even if it contains ... ''!

    And there is the administration and state bodies of the Russian Federation? No. And if so, then by all international laws this territory is not considered occupied.
    But the fact that they DIRECTLY REFUSE to support the citizens whom they consider to be theirs is not only contrary to the “Minsk agreements” and they de facto REFUSE these territories. I really hope that our international lawyers will take advantage of these “gifts”.

    Whoever danced, he should drink and feed, otherwise it turns out that I’m silent about Kiev before the Lamansh, they were going to get there in three days, and then the havchik ended. Sanctions declare to Peter Likseich.
  21. sgr291158
    sgr291158 14 November 2017 06: 07 New
    0
    Here is a sick person then.