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Morocco is negotiating the purchase of C-400

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Another sign of strategic change in the North African region was Morocco’s desire to acquire the C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia in order to diversify its military assets. bmpd With reference to the Moroccan resource www.alyaoum24.com.


Morocco is negotiating the purchase of C-400


The authorities monitor regional and international events and want to be prepared for them.

“Morocco is involved in projects in the military industry with a group of countries such as India, China and Brazil. They are interested in the production of air defense systems, including anti-aircraft missiles and long-range missile systems, through the acquisition of licenses for military production, ”the article notes.

According to military expert Abdel Makkavi, Morocco’s acquisition of air defense systems "will be a Russian solution aimed at creating a kind of military balance in North Africa between Morocco and Algeria."

He added that such a shift will have political aspects: “Moscow has not forgotten the treachery of Algeria, which doubled gas production and its exports to Europe after European sanctions against Russia, and what the late Ahmed Osman said:“ Algeria’s heart is in Russia, but his money is in Europe. ""

The expert also noted that “rapprochement between Morocco and Russia is based on a number of common interests, including with regard to the military situation in North Africa.” According to him, the course of the upcoming wars in North Africa will depend on long-range missiles, UAVs and air defense systems.

This is not the first time that Morocco addresses Moscow regarding the purchase of military equipment.

“So, for example, earlier Russian and American media published reports on a military agreement between the two countries, the subject of which is the acquisition by Morocco of a Russian submarine of the Amur 1650 project. The possibility of concluding this transaction was discussed with 2013 of the year, ”recalls the author of the material.

It was also reported on the acquisition of mechanisms for maintenance of the submarine and training in its management of the Moroccan team, all within the framework of a long-term bilateral agreement to strengthen military cooperation between the two countries.

Anti-aircraft missile-gun systems 2K22М1 "Tunguska-М1" of Moroccan ground forces. The 12 2K22М1 Tunguska-M1 combat vehicles were delivered to Morocco under a contract concluded by Rosoboronexport in January 2005.
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RIA Novosti / Sergey Malgavko, far-maroc.on.ma
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  1. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 13 November 2017 13: 15 New
    +4
    If a country has something to protect, then there must be something to protect it ...
    1. figwam
      figwam 13 November 2017 13: 17 New
      +3
      After removing the tomahawks from the sky, a queue appeared for the S-400.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 13 November 2017 13: 21 New
      +7
      Well, critics who said that the S-400 did not show itself anywhere, where are you? Moreover, people who make such decisions know much more than you and me.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 13 November 2017 13: 30 New
        +4
        I will support your comment, I was also always surprised that our couch analysts think that they are smarter than the North African and Middle Eastern rulers.
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 13 November 2017 13: 42 New
          +6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          I was also always surprised that our couch analysts think they are smarter than North African and Middle Eastern rulers

          hi
          Nuuu ... the diversity as well as the depths of the human mind are endless and unknown ...
          But Africans, like everyone else ... know how to count money, and trusting the Jankers (in everything) is dangerous.
          especially:
          According to him, the course of the upcoming wars in North Africa will depend on long-range missiles, drones and air defense systems.

          as if even the question is not worth it - possible ... like it will be all. request
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 13 November 2017 13: 47 New
            +2
            It’s not even a matter of the brains of rulers smoked with hookah, but the fact that a lot of former military men, analysts, large law and military firms work for them for big money.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 13 November 2017 14: 00 New
              +4
              hi
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              our couch analysts think they are smarter than North African and Middle Eastern rulers.

              Such analysts place their sofa incomparably higher than any North African or Middle Eastern throne. Which eloquently speaks of the level of intelligence.
    3. stolz
      stolz 13 November 2017 13: 43 New
      +2
      Just yesterday they got off the tree, and today they are already serving S-400!
    4. Orionvit
      Orionvit 13 November 2017 16: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Greg Miller
      If a country has something to protect, then there must be something to protect it ...

      Another African "lion" was drawn, with its ambitions. I do not know what to clean up there in Morocco, except for its advantageous strategic position. That is, first of all, control over Gibraltar.
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  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +3
    Well, just great. Let our plants "plow" in three shifts ...
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 November 2017 13: 59 New
      +1
      At three and plow
  4. Nemesis
    Nemesis 13 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +2
    Russia generally should not sell the latest air defense systems, which are sorely lacking in the army of Russia itself, especially on credit ... which then (will be forgotten) to return
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 13 November 2017 13: 29 New
      +3
      We do not have an acute shortage of S-400 - this time. And secondly, for our aircraft, the S-400 will be produced at the same pace as before. Export became possible due to expansion of production capacities.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 13 November 2017 13: 33 New
        +3
        If YOU do not have an urgent need for the S-400 air defense system, then the US has ... Such as you already sold the S-300 air defense system of NATO Greece, and as a result, this system has been studied in detail by the United States ... Such as you have already distributed to foreign countries a bunch of loans that no one returned to Russia ... It would be fair to get people like you to repay all the loans that you gave to all sorts of Kyrgyzstan, to the detriment of Russia, from your own pocket ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 13 November 2017 13: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: Nemesis
          Like you already sold the S-300 air defense system of NATO Greece, and as a result, this system was studied in detail by the USA

          The maximum that they could study is the characteristics of the emitter and receiver. An attempt to look at the insides of Soviet devices is pointless .. there isn’t even a marking on the parts, in case of a malfunction, the entire unit is changed and sent to the factory, where repairs or disposal are carried out. The board is usually flooded with resin .. In addition, Greece PMU1, in Korea, in general, S-300 elements are produced under license
          In Russia . S-300s are being upgraded to PMU2, and these are other emitters / receivers and other missiles. NU and S-300V were not sold to anyone at all, but
          In 2012, the modernization of all S-300V complexes to the S-300V4 level was completed, also in 2013 3 new S-300V4 divisions were delivered and a contract was signed for the supply of even new divisions by 2015. The effectiveness of the new B4 complex is 1,5-2,3 times greater than the previous S-300B3 [
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 13 November 2017 14: 05 New
            +2
            And the study of radar provides a lot, this is one of the key parts of any air defense system, and you can even disassemble a missile for study and even analyze its maneuverable capabilities, which is also a key element for intercepting air targets ... I don’t need to write that self-destructive rockets are installed on the rockets and cannot be disassembled ... The captured US-made missiles in the USSR and the Russian Federation were also disassembled and studied ... There are specialists for this .... in the USA too ...
          2. opus
            opus 13 November 2017 14: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: dvina71
            The maximum that they could learn is the characteristics of the emitter and receiver.

            Maximum belay

            Signal parameters (spectral width, duration, repetition period, radiated power)
            Receiver sensitivity;
            Antenna characteristics (aperture size or width of the pattern, side-lobe level).
            Space survey method and speed of review;
            Type of terminal;
            Dimensions and weight of the station;
            The power consumed from the power source
            Receiver parameters (receiver noise figure - ksh, receiver bandwidth - f, nominal intermediate frequency - f-array, total receiver gain, etc .;
            information transmission systems (IPN), information retrieval, radio control, information destruction, and combined systems.
            System capacity
            System performance
            Noise immunity

            etc. etc.
            MORE THAT AND NOT NEED!
            Quote: dvina71
            there is even no marking on the parts; in the event of a malfunction, the entire block is changed and sent to the factory, repairs are made there or recycling

            1.marking is No need to "whistle"
            ZRS C-300 **
            -5Е26.1 - VK 5Э26 for PBU 5К56 SU 5Н83 ЗРС C-300ПТ
            - 5E26.1 / 2 -?
            - 5E26.2 - VK 5E26 for gearbox 5Н63 ЗРС C-300ПТ
            - 5EX26.5 - VK 5E26 for the 5K56C PBU 5H83С ЗРС X-NNUMXPS
            - 5E26.5 / 6 -?
            - 5E26.6 - VK 5E26 for gearbox 5Н63С ЗРС C-300ПС
            - 40У6 - modification of 5Е26 with increased (3,5 million op. / S) speed and additional redundancy of equipment.
            simulator computing complex C-300


            2. What resin is not poured
            Memory board on ferrite DZU computer 5E26

            3.blocks, yes.

            It is not possible to repair / diagnose (outside the self-diagnosis cycle) in the field
            =============
            And more new - the same ("not filled with resin")



            KOMDIV64, KOMDIV64-SMP
            64th developed at the research institute of system research (NMM SI) of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Chips are made by foreign companies: Taiwanese TSMC and UMC, American GlobalFoundries and German X-Fab
            Arithmetic coprocessor KOMDIV128


            Quote: dvina71
            in Korea, S-300 elements are generally manufactured under license

            good
            KM-SAM ("Cheolmae-2") not S-300

            SAM 9M96 *, used in missile systems S-350E and S-400.

            It is on its basis that LIG Nex1 yuk ZUR produces, and the platform is made by Doosan DST under the leadership of Samsung Thales.
          3. Orionvit
            Orionvit 13 November 2017 16: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: dvina71
            in the event of a malfunction, the entire unit is changed and sent to the factory, where repairs or disposal are carried out. The board is usually flooded with resin.

            I do not know how in the states, but there was a similar case. When the American air-to-air missile hit the Soviet Union, the same blocks were flooded with resin. Quickly organized by the Chukchi and Yakut masters of bone carvers, and they within a month, manually, cleaned the resin without damaging the elements.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 13 November 2017 14: 13 New
          +2
          And then I think that these villains are due to which in general all our problems. But here they are, on the forum hid under the nickname Muvka!

          Are there too many dogs you hang on a single forum member?
        3. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 13 November 2017 14: 35 New
          +7
          Quote: Nemesis
          People like you have already given out a bunch of loans to foreign countries that nobody has returned to Russia ... It would be fair to make people like you pay off all the loans that you gave to all sorts of Kyrgyzstan, to the detriment of Russia, from your own pocket ...

          What hysteria again? request
          Loans that "no one returned" were given out mainly under the Union. Brezhnev handed them out yes
          The next “color revolution" was planned in Kyrgyzstan (they, you probably know, have rich experience on this topic); is it necessary, given that Kyrgyzstan is also a member of the CSTO (GYYY) and there is a Russian air base? No, don’t. That's why they wrote off ...
          And you, that ... would calm down a bit, but try to write only on those topics that you really understand.
          You see, it would be better for everyone ...
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 13 November 2017 14: 37 New
            +1
            And you should start writing reviews on articles, and not get on with all your opinions and assessments ... I don’t need bases in Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, they don’t affect drug trafficking in Russia through an unclosed border with Kazakhstan ...
        4. Orionvit
          Orionvit 13 November 2017 16: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: Nemesis
          sold the S-300 air defense system of NATO Greece, and as a result, this system was studied in detail by the United States

          Why go so far? S-300, in large numbers, is in the same Ukraine, which, with great pleasure and zeal, sold to the states, everything that is already possible.
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 13 November 2017 13: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Nemesis
      Russia should not sell the latest air defense systems at all

      Why so? Factories are money, sn workers, new equipment ..
      Second ... the S-400 is not an imba. This, at the moment, is a cherry on the cake - a complex air defense. Without this cake .. cherry just a berry. To create a multi-level air defense in the image of the Russian .. neither Algeria nor Morocco will have enough money ..
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 13 November 2017 13: 50 New
        +2
        After US specialists study the S-400 air defense system, the effectiveness of this system in the air defense of the Russian Federation will drop several times ... In addition, it is very doubtful that countries like Morocco would be able to buy S-400 in cash, and Putin’s gifts to foreigners to the detriment Russia is already tired ... Russia has enough of its problems, they need to be solved, and not all kinds of Morocco should be armed for free ... First, they give allegedly a loan, but no one returns these loans to Russia ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 13 November 2017 14: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Nemesis
          After US specialists study the S-400 air defense system, the effectiveness of this system in the air defense of the Russian Federation will drop several times.

          Efficiency will drop from the one they learn. For Russian domestic consumption, the S-400 is significantly different. In addition, as I already wrote .. In Russia, comprehensive air defense / missile defense .. yes, it does not provide a continuous field of coverage, but the USSR could not completely cover such territory. Sale of one of the elements. .even in its original form will not affect the capabilities of such a system.
          One way to solve internal problems .. selling high-tech equipment abroad ..
          And what does it mean for free .. did you hold a contract in your hands? what would you say ..
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 13 November 2017 14: 06 New
            +2
            What is your confidence based on? The Su-30SM has already been delivered abroad in the same configuration in which they are used by the Russian Armed Forces and this will not bring Russia any benefit ..
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 13 November 2017 14: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: Nemesis
              That Su-30SM have already been delivered abroad in the same configuration

              It’s not the same. But it was these deliveries that allowed Sukhoi to survive in the 90s, although they tried to break it down, and now this company is completing the 5th generation fighter and is releasing 4 ++ in full swing
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 13 November 2017 14: 16 New
                +2
                Before writing this, it’s better to study shipments of the Su-30SM abroad, you are not in the topic
                1. Muvka
                  Muvka 13 November 2017 14: 24 New
                  0
                  Su-30SM abroad is only in Belarus and Kazakhstan. And there ours will not let anything leak. Yes, and the Su-30 is not so new and secret.
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 13 November 2017 14: 29 New
                    +1
                    Among my friends there are two families of Russian refugees from Alma-Ata and ours are not there ... Kazakhstan is moving to the Latin alphabet, cooperating with the USA ... But in Belarus it is not a simple situation. The pogroms of the Russian population did not even happen there, but those who go to Belarus under red and white flags are Belarusian Bandera ... Lukashenko of Russia is not an ally, he banned the St. George ribbon in Belarus, now there are ribbons of the color of the flag of Belarus, with the apple tree flower .. .I did not recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation ... It sells fuel and lubricants for the ATO to Ukraine, cooperates with it in the military sphere, there are joint developments ... Even the film Crimea is prohibited in Belarus ... Where did you see ours there ?! All republics of the scoop are sick with Russophobia
    3. zivXP
      zivXP 13 November 2017 13: 46 New
      0
      Already with the S-600 in the entire development. Only this is a secret. laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 13 November 2017 17: 45 New
        +1
        It will already be a system of both ground and air based, with the ability to intercept ICBMs at altitudes and ranges up to 1000 kilometers.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 13 November 2017 18: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Nemesis
      Russia generally should not sell the latest air defense systems, which are sorely lacking in the army of Russia itself, especially on credit ... which then (will be forgotten) to return

      S-400 without missiles, this is just a tractor with guide tubes and no more. The most important thing is the arsenal. Without it, all these radars, tractors, etc. are just a pile of useless metal. And now the question is: What missiles do we export for these complexes? Do you really think that the most long-range and newest?
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 13 November 2017 18: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        Do you really think that the most long-range and new?

        The main thing is not to notice this before launch ..... lol

  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 November 2017 13: 29 New
    0
    Olga is not in exchange for coffee fool if there is not enough currency, there are a lot of jewelry diamonds - let them pay! !!
  6. askort154
    askort154 13 November 2017 13: 30 New
    0
    No one wants Gaddafi’s fate and realizes that the “patriots” will not help them, even if they are sold to them .. And if there is an S-400, they will not impose a “no-fly zone” on them, they themselves want to organize it.
    1. D040sm
      D040sm 13 November 2017 15: 40 New
      +1
      C400 alone will not be enough. complex solution required.
  7. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 13 November 2017 13: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Well, just great. Let our plants "plow" in three shifts ...

    it’s not “our factories” that will work - it’s their factories that will work, and our fat cats add money offshore
    acquisition of licenses for military production
  8. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 13 November 2017 13: 39 New
    +3
    “So, for example, earlier the Russian and American media published reports of a military agreement between the two countries, the subject of which is the acquisition by Morocco of a Russian submarine of the Amur 1650 project. The possibility of concluding this deal has been discussed since 2013. "
    So how is it? Got it ?! wassat The article is an obvious fake, everything that comes from some inarticulate sources, rather than officials, turns out to be a lie ... Algeria and I bought corvettes like this in 2380 and Morocco has the same Amur, it’s been buying everything for many years ... so cheers patriots to whack fool
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 13 November 2017 13: 47 New
      +1
      So the purchase is not yet discussed.
      Morocco is negotiating the purchase of C-400
      So far we are only talking about the desire to acquire and the negotiations, the result of which is still too early to speak.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 13 November 2017 13: 50 New
        0
        so the fact of the matter is that I doubt the existence of these negotiations ... with the same Turks and Saudis, the negotiations were at the highest level and covered by serious resources ... and here is a kind of slurred Moroccan website
  9. Egorovich
    Egorovich 13 November 2017 13: 40 New
    +4
    Well, that's the turn formed for the S-400. And this is most likely not the last buyer.
  10. Bronevick
    Bronevick 13 November 2017 13: 41 New
    +2
    Morocco bought a Mstu-S one long ago and gave it to the USA for disassembly.
  11. Sergey53
    Sergey53 13 November 2017 13: 55 New
    0
    Moroccans are friendly to us, solvent, why not?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 November 2017 13: 59 New
      0
      Moroccans are sworn friends of Algeria. Algeria - at the 3 position in terms of arms purchases in the Russian Federation.

      Therefore, to sell the sworn friend of Algeria complexes that will bring down the Su-30MKA and Su-34. Well, that.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 13 November 2017 14: 25 New
        0
        But we supply weapons to Armenia and Azerbaijan and nothing.
      2. Sergey53
        Sergey53 13 November 2017 16: 37 New
        0
        We can deliver them to Algeria if necessary.
  12. HEATHER
    HEATHER 13 November 2017 15: 29 New
    +2
    Morocco ... Why do they need the S-400? Is there something strategically important there? Or is it in the zone of spheres of influence of Moscow? Something has been boiling in my brain for the last XNUMX hours. I don’t understand anything. One thought slipped through, put our naval base there.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 13 November 2017 19: 54 New
      0
      Strait control for its part. Air defense just come in handy.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 November 2017 16: 30 New
    0
    Morocco is Algeria’s foe ... and we supply both? Can the Tunguzks bring down the Dry?
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 November 2017 16: 31 New
    0
    How will US sanctions affect buyers of our weapons? Arabs mainly? They have all the money in America.
  15. Livonetc
    Livonetc 13 November 2017 17: 42 New
    +1
    It seems that soon it will be necessary to launch new additional production facilities.
    And the world space in a certain future will be an unmanned zone for alien military aircraft.
    Such a good non-nuclear deterrent.
    Peace to the World!
    War is not necessary.
    C400 all together.
  16. Wolka
    Wolka 13 November 2017 17: 59 New
    0
    it's time to add the price ...
  17. enmesher
    enmesher 13 November 2017 18: 57 New
    0
    But it’s interesting, will we ever be able to block raw material earnings by revenues from the military?