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Kiev helped the United States to unravel the secrets of active protection "Drozd"

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Americans have repeatedly made attempts to gain access to installed on Tanks Russian active defense complexes. They had at their disposal the Drozd complex, which not only successfully passed the tests, but was officially accepted for service, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


Kiev helped the United States to unravel the secrets of active protection "Drozd"


Even now, this old system is capable of effectively intercepting most of the ATGM and rocket-propelled grenades and would be very useful in Syria.

“In February, the 1995 of the year, the author of these lines had the opportunity to inspect in the outskirts of Grozny padded military equipment: tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and armored personnel carriers. One of the soldiers sincerely wondered why our tanks were not equipped with active defense complexes. “Even during the USSR, in Baku, I saw T-55AD with Drozd. If now our equipment was with such protection, then the losses would have been many times less,” my interlocutor lamented. By the time we talked about this, most of the fifty-fives with this system were expected to be disposed of at special factories in Russia and Ukraine, ”says the author of the article, Lev Romanov.



However, not all such equipment disappeared in the smelting furnaces. According to the author, "two tanks with the KAZ Drozd, stocks of destructive elements from the territory of Ukraine were secretly delivered to the United States." The vehicles were transported to the state of Maryland at the training ground of the Aberdeen Training Center, where they were subjected to shelling from all American anti-tank weapons.



As noted earlier, there were no leaks to the press for these tests. Apparently "Drozdy" proved to be worthy, otherwise, Americans would be happy to talk about the shortcomings of protection. Later, Ukraine received a proposal to purchase a new batch of these complexes, and, of course, Kiev with great enthusiasm fulfilled the new order of its partners in Washington.



At present, one of the few remaining T-55AD tanks can be seen in the Patriot park near Moscow.
Photos used:
http://vestnik-rm.ru
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  1. zzdimk
    zzdimk 13 November 2017 12: 26 New
    12
    Selling lizards. And to reproduce in kind? - weak? Only sale?
    1. Ankipelgygyrgyn
      Ankipelgygyrgyn 13 November 2017 12: 30 New
      18
      And to reproduce in kind? - weak?

      What for? The chervonets and the wick stole, beyond this the Ukrainian thought does not spread.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 13 November 2017 12: 32 New
        25
        lucky with my little brothers eh?)

        as drug addicts are all from home, all for nothing in the desire to receive the IMF tranche and approval in the UN league.

        Need a fence and a visa. For racing on Independence should be punished. For the laws I lie - there must be punishment. For the sale of technology - should be punished. For the non-return of 3 billions of debt - should be punished. For the murder of journalists and residents of LDNR - to punish. For natural stupidity and selyukovatost - must be punished.

        Let their power punish them financially (which they are doing well, well done) - we need something more original and painful.

        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 13 November 2017 12: 40 New
          38
          For the sake of objectivity - in the 90s we ourselves were much more likely to sell everything ... for chewing gum
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 13 November 2017 12: 44 New
            +8
            For the sake of objectivity - in the 90s we ourselves were much more likely to sell everything ... for chewing gum


            we did it once and still here we regret it on the forums. And we are rebuilding the country so far from that time.

            And these clowns ... A spoiled show that squeaked on a repeat. Okay once, okay two. But now it's a diagnosis
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 13 November 2017 13: 01 New
              +3
              Actually, the article is absolutely unproven. So reacting to it is so painful ... Save your nerves, gentlemen. That "what one woman said ..." Facts in the studio, please, otherwise you will soon believe with such stuffing that Judas was also from Berdichev!
              Personally, I remember very well the stories about the latest tanks, S-300 units and Su-27 units sold during the withdrawal of our troops from Germany ...
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 13 November 2017 14: 33 New
                +2
                Is not it so???????
            2. Young_Communist
              Young_Communist 13 November 2017 17: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: c-Petrov
              we did it once and still here we regret it on the forums.

              "Once - not a national traitor!" laughing
          2. 79807420129
            79807420129 13 November 2017 12: 48 New
            21
            Quote: Nasr
            For the sake of objectivity - in the 90s we ourselves were much more likely to sell everything ... for chewing gum

            For the sake of objectivity, we all sold the country for jeans, chewing gum and Coca-Cola. The USSR was called. hi
            1. ImPerts
              ImPerts 13 November 2017 12: 59 New
              +8
              The USSR was a great power, but the sisters lived at the expense of the RSFSR and not only rode, but also managed to drive. Over the 25 years, it has become clear that “sisters and brothers” themselves do not represent anything. Maybe it was worth it?
              1. 79807420129
                79807420129 13 November 2017 14: 27 New
                +8
                Quote: ImPerts
                Maybe it was worth it?

                Maybe a colleague was worth it request But no one began to live richer and happier from this. yes hi
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 13 November 2017 16: 36 New
                  +3
                  But no one began to live richer and happier from this.


                  so we only paid the debts for RI. They gave for the USSR. I think soon our budget will be more complete. Import substitution in action no matter what they say. Pipes are pulling. Debts handed out. The nuclear weapons were updated - it was very expensive, and we are saturating the army with equipment - after the 20th year a lot of money will be freed.

                  Yes, and construction is now a lot of money. It is necessary to finish building. Although the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin will begin there. In general, not the wimps. There is money.

                  But no one began to live richer and happier from this.


                  moot point. Anyone who wants to have a car (someone with a pelvis, someone with a gelenvagen - that's not the point). An apartment in a mortgage is also real. So many acquaintances have already taken, I’m silent about the military, in general, in terms of housing, everything is now in chocolate
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 14 November 2017 20: 11 New
                    0
                    Quote: c-Petrov
                    moot point. Anyone who wants to have a car (someone with a pelvis, someone with a gelenvagen - that's not the point). An apartment in a mortgage is also real. So many acquaintances have already taken, I’m silent about the military, in general, in terms of housing, everything is now in chocolate


                    This is you about the capital. In the regions, see how people live. They don’t complain, because people are normal in Russia, and they’re fie about your “values”. But they do not live very well. Do not generalize.
              2. Egor Voronov
                Egor Voronov 14 November 2017 13: 55 New
                0
                So at least all the "sisters and brothers" were under the hood, and no one would have guessed to place the NATO WB in their territory, give the Black Sea to the US Navy, open a visa-free regime, etc. And now everyone is free to betray Russia as he wants.
        2. volodya
          volodya 13 November 2017 12: 53 New
          +9
          Quote: c-Petrov
          lucky with my little brothers eh?)
        3. 89513026469
          89513026469 13 November 2017 15: 23 New
          +2
          That's right, they are corrupt. But let's remember that we (Russia) merged amers — the Yak-141 ancestor of the Raptor as they sawed the BZHRK — they cut Typhoons ... In the 90s they all wanted to lick. But we came to our senses)) But the non-brothers are still sleeping and see how to still lick behind the cookie.
        4. Juborg
          Juborg 13 November 2017 20: 39 New
          0
          What does it have to do, bro, not bro? It was necessary to think when arms were abandoned both in Eastern Europe and in the former "allied" ones. When finances had already sung all the romances, and I want to eat not only bread, but with black caviar and lobsters, then the Almighty himself ordered the sale of the intellectual property of a former friend (and from the point of view of Ukraine, the aggressor!). We had to give and forgive less.
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 13 November 2017 15: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Ankypelgygyrgyn
        The chervonets and the wick stole, beyond this Ukrainian thought does not spread.

        Ha Ha Ha ... Probably Forgotten OUR "warrant officers" selling everything and everything directly to the enemy.
        TAVKR "Kiev" and "Minsk" have not the "ensigns" surrendered? And how did THEY open secret factories and design bureaus to star-striped friends? Do not forget to OWN, so malnourished history, and do everything that would not be repeated, and "ensigns" (such as Serdyukov or Kalugin) - to the wall !!!
        “In a stranger’s eye you see a mote in your own and you don’t notice a log” - Russian folk proverb
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 13 November 2017 16: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Serg Koma
          “In a stranger’s eye you see a mote in your own, you don’t even notice logs” - Russian proverb

          [media = https: //ok.ru/video/387767865674]
    2. Equalized
      Equalized 13 November 2017 13: 01 New
      0
      I will tell you a secret. Ukraine has developed its own version based on this KAZ.
      KAZ "Barrier".

      Here he is in the Polish armored personnel carrier.

      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 November 2017 13: 31 New
        10
        Quote: Equalized
        I will tell you a secret. Ukraine has developed its own version based on this KAZ.
        KAZ "Barrier".

        No. She did this on the basis of an even more ancient Leningrad KAZ Rain. Truth. they don’t like to mention it ...

        In the Soviet Army, this KAZ was not used for a very simple reason: like the Barrier, it is extremely dangerous for both its infantry and even its light armored vehicles.
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 13 November 2017 14: 38 New
        0
        Glory to God!
        Let them and the Poles continue to obscure this.
      3. pepel79
        pepel79 13 November 2017 16: 43 New
        0
        Pseudo Ukrainian) (Rennes, stands on Polish) (Renes ... Lyapota ...
  2. mad
    mad 13 November 2017 12: 26 New
    +3
    It’s necessary to somehow repulse 5 lards launched into “democracy”. And so there the vassal licked, then barked, here he wagged his ass to the joy of the owners and now star-hairy in the pluses.
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 13 November 2017 12: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: mad
      Am vassal licked, then barked, here he wagged his ass to the joy of the owners and now star-hairy in the pluses.

      strangely enough, the mattresses were not in the cons yet, their dough issue is of paramount importance laughing
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 13 November 2017 13: 10 New
        +8
        These merchants of overseas bottling do not give anything without benefit for themselves - it is a fact! yes
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 13 November 2017 13: 20 New
          +5
          so also take good interest
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 13 November 2017 13: 23 New
            +7
            So Karl Marx wrote about this in his Capital. wink
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 13: 41 New
              +5
              Quote: Jedi
              So Karl Marx wrote about this in his Capital. wink

              I said that the revolution in Russia was made with American money
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 13 November 2017 13: 44 New
                +7
                Quote: Partyzan
                revolution in Russia made with American money

                Including, but not only. wink
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 13 November 2017 13: 46 New
                  +4
                  those that came from Germany were also American hi
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 13 November 2017 13: 47 New
                    +6
                    How do you know? Bookkeeping went through you? lol
                    1. Partyzan
                      Partyzan 13 November 2017 13: 53 New
                      10
                      knowledgeable people said, but they know laughing
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 13 November 2017 13: 57 New
                        +6
                        So yes, you can’t but trust such analysts! wassat
                      2. Dead duck
                        Dead duck 13 November 2017 14: 13 New
                        +8
                        hi
                        one of the positive aspects of the USSR is that even drunks, movers and other citizens understood international politics and technology (especially military) laughing
        2. Dead duck
          Dead duck 13 November 2017 14: 10 New
          +5
          Quote: Jedi
          These merchants

          Eva how are you them ...
          it will be possible now in a cultural society about non-cultural so to speak laughing drinks
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 13 November 2017 14: 18 New
            +5
            So, after all, obscene expressions on VO are strictly punishable, so you have to express yourself wisely. repeat
            1. Dead duck
              Dead duck 13 November 2017 14: 24 New
              +6
              Quote: Jedi
              so you have to express yourself in a tricky way

              Well, yes, especially about "pediatricians and homeopaths" winked
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 13 November 2017 14: 39 New
                +6
                Are you talking about lumberjacks? lol
                1. Dead duck
                  Dead duck 13 November 2017 15: 21 New
                  +6
                  and about them too ...
                  although about them in the first place laughing
              2. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 15: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: Deadush
                Quote: Jedi
                so you have to express yourself in a tricky way

                Well, yes, especially about "pediatricians and homeopaths" winked

                And what about gondoliers? repeat
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 13 November 2017 15: 38 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  And what about gondoliers?

                  And even necessary! lol
                  1. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 16: 18 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Jedi
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    And what about gondoliers?

                    And even necessary! lol

                    Thank you! winked
                2. Dead duck
                  Dead duck 13 November 2017 15: 41 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  And what about gondoliers?

                  it’s dangerous, they can knock with an oar laughing
  3. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 13 November 2017 12: 27 New
    +7
    Our "brothers" would only shit, and if they also pay money for it, then there will be no end to those who wish (((
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 13 November 2017 12: 53 New
      +3
      They have a specific nature, I do not bite it so hard.
  4. Großer feldherr
    Großer feldherr 13 November 2017 12: 43 New
    +1
    If this “Thrush” is such a super-duper, why after T55 it wasn’t installed on all the subsequent equipment, and the tanks arrived in the VSK all the same naked until the appearance of the DZ?
    For decades, Americans have tested T72, Mig29 and Su27, trained, and then as many as 2 T55, that’s a sensation.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 13 November 2017 14: 45 New
      +1
      So no one has yet canceled the desu.
      It is important what kind of dez wrapper is wrapped
  5. dvina71
    dvina71 13 November 2017 12: 53 New
    +2
    it’s bad of course that KAZ was betrayed to them, but one peculiarity of the Americans calms them down .. they use the knowledge gained one-sidedly, hypertrophically swinging one, which they think is important, property .. So it was with the method of reducing the radar radar of noticeability ... where after giving too fancy shapes to airplanes they sharply cut off their flight characteristics or received a compiler ... they simply integrated it into the processor for one purpose .. turn the CISC x86 processor into the superscalar Pentium .. and then VLIW Itanium, while the compiler’s functionality is much wider.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 13 November 2017 14: 50 New
      +2
      That swearing in public with foreign words is not good!
      Processor, Compiler (do not remember by night), superscalar (pooh on it, God forgive me!), Functional ...
      It would be easier for us
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 15: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Vlad.by
        It would be easier for us

        Well yes. We would have to stoparik, Murzik and Ball! drinks lol
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 13 November 2017 15: 46 New
          +1
          Interesting thought, Colleague!
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +1
    So we generally know very little about the “exploits” of the Ukrainians against us, even though they are shitting on us so much and often.
  7. The brightest
    The brightest 13 November 2017 13: 25 New
    0
    Well, judging by the fact that the United States still hasn’t done anything of the kind, they haven’t understood anything. Or they cannot reproduce due to the element base and algorithms for them.
  8. Nemesis
    Nemesis 13 November 2017 13: 41 New
    +2
    Ukraine harmed as much as it could ... Fought against Russia in Chechnya since 1994 (30000 UNA-UNSO) ... Destroyed Tu-160 bombers with the smallest wear .... Transmitted BMP-3, MiG-23, MiG- to the USA 29, Su-27 ... I am sure that all the weapons inherited by Ukraine from the USSR were studied in detail by the USA ...
  9. venik
    venik 13 November 2017 13: 51 New
    +2
    “..... According to the author,“ two tanks from the Drozd KAZ, stocks of destructive elements from Ukraine, were secretly delivered to the United States. ”The vehicles were transported to Maryland at the Aberdeen Training Center training ground, where they were bombarded from all available Americans anti-tank weapons ....... "
    =========
    Yes, if JUST THIS!!!!! They (it’s not inexcusable, of course!), "Handed over for review" literally EVERYTHING that their interested in ......
    True, in fairness, for the sake of mention, it should be mentioned that in the times of the "Yeltsin region" and from Russia there were "leaks" .... (not without the permission of the “guarantor of the Constitution”, the T-90 and Tunguska samples were “sold” to the Britons (and God knows what else!) ... But Thank God, in the Russian Federation, this “bacchanalia” ended almost 20 years ago ! Now "pin @ sy" can only "lick" !!!!
    And we have this "topic" ended, only when the "offer" more THERE IS NOTHING became !!!!! Moreover ALL "guarantors" distinguished themselves!!
    How can you not recall the "ancient, bearded and raunchy" joke:
    "Psychology of a student of a medical institute":
    - 1 course: "Nobody ... nobody ... nobody ..."
    - 2 course: "No one ... no one ... only HIM alone" !!!
    - 3 course: "No one ... no one ... Only Him ... and One more ...."!
    - 4 course: "Everyone ... everyone ... everyone !!"
    - 5 course: "To .... to whom ... to whom ???"
  10. Partyzan
    Partyzan 13 November 2017 14: 14 New
    +4
    Dead duck,
    citizens understood international politics and technology (especially military)
    so then it wasn’t customary to mow from the army hi
  11. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 13 November 2017 15: 30 New
    +1
    Judah hanged himself, but his work lives on!
  12. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 13 November 2017 16: 35 New
    +1
    Ukraine and the Urains will end very badly
  13. Alexander Borisov
    Alexander Borisov 13 November 2017 20: 32 New
    +1
    The S-400, which will be delivered to Turkey, will be the same.
  14. razved
    razved 13 November 2017 21: 25 New
    +1
    For some reason, it’s not surprising ...
  15. 236 BTR
    236 BTR 13 November 2017 23: 17 New
    +1
    Daaaaaaaa, there was no need to leave weapons in eastern Europe, as they say, weapons are not a toy for children
  16. George Davydov
    George Davydov 14 November 2017 07: 11 New
    0
    Here is an example of the work of the enemies of the people in relation to both their own people and the country, and their apologists - a civilized democratic, but, as shown, immoral and brainless west. And it is immorality that allows him, remember fascist - the greater the lie, the faster they will believe in it; when I hear the word Culture, a hand reaches for a pistol and other pearls - they allow liberal vulgarity to rule in the minds of the apologists for democracy of this injury. It was these apologists under the auspices of the hosts that did everything to ensure that the country did not go along the path of social, scientific and technological progress. Moreover, fooled, led along the path of stagnation, degradation and death. And this, as A.S. Pushkin said, is a lesson for good fellows. So we will benefit from this lesson !!!
    1. japs
      japs 14 November 2017 11: 32 New
      +4
      Under capitalism? Who will learn a lesson from this? 86% of the Russian economy is in the hands of private capital and Western as well. Ayfonya and Kudrin with Nae .. Nabiullina sleep and see the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation in private ownership.
      Will rockets and tanks be produced at foreign enterprises? And keep the privacy mode?
      Karl Marx smokes aside in confusion ...
  17. Cynic
    Cynic 16 November 2017 09: 15 New
    0
    From what cross 95th?
    They would have waited for several years, another conversation that it was all framed officially.
    Overall
    Cases of bygone days,
    The legends of antiquity deep ...
  18. Bosch
    Bosch 16 November 2017 15: 50 New
    0
    Kuev much than helped the United States, slut corrupt all banderlogs.
  19. Mihail59
    Mihail59 16 November 2017 20: 34 New
    0
    Compared to the little things that they do in the Donbass, it was necessary to foresee, and with a new brother what not to share and shit the damned Muscovites ...