In the Russian Federation, an aerostat relay complex was created

For the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the first aerostat relay complex was created. Raised to a height of several kilometers, the system is capable of transmitting large volumes of information and promptly bring staff teams to the troops, according to News.

The balloon with a communication complex was created by the concern “Vega” (included in the holding company “Ruselectronics”).

During the tests, the main tactical and technical characteristics of the complex were confirmed. The relevant act was approved by the state customer. The balloon complex is recommended for use in mass production and serial production.

said a company representative.

He did not disclose the characteristics of the complex, citing the confidentiality of information.

According to the newspaper, referring to the Ministry of Defense, balloon repeaters are planned to be used in army communications brigades to transmit large amounts of information; their high mobility will allow you to quickly organize high-speed communications.

“A device with a volume of about 3 thousand cubic meters will be able to lift equipment weighing 3,5 kg to a height of 300 km. The device is capable of continuously working at a height of up to a crescent without recharging gas on the ground. The complex can be used, for example, to organize ultra-long-distance radio communications and provide over-the-horizon radar. In combination with other means of communication, the novelty can be used to coordinate the military aviation", - says the material.

Distinguished military pilot Major General Vladimir Popov called the use of balloons and airships as air communication centers and rebroadcast very relevant.

First of all, this is due to savings. Balloon systems can be quickly prepared for operation at the right time in the right place. For example, during a military operation, performing emergency combat missions or operational tactical exercises,

he said.

According to Popov, the need to build in advance a system of ground stations with large antennas leads to the unmasking of troops: “the enemy receives a warning about the operation being prepared.”

The assembled balloon and its standard equipment can be transported by an all-terrain vehicle or a transport helicopter and quickly prepared for operation.

Such a repeater will be able to transmit online data of the operational situation online or bring the command staffs to the troops on the battlefield. This will improve the controllability of troops and the secrecy of operations,

explained the general.

Comments

[maxim947]

After positive tests by the Americans of their shuttle - this news somehow does not "sound")))

[svp67]

Quote: maxim947

After positive tests by the Americans of their shuttle - this news somehow does not "sound")))

You confuse the "hot" with the "square". The Americans repeated the success of the Soviet “Bor” and so far have not brought anything special, and I see no reason for us to fall into hysteria.
A repeater is a necessary thing here and now.

[Dashout]

Quote: svp67

A repeater is a necessary thing here and now.

I'm afraid to ask: how is it protected from the wind? Do not take it along with valuable equipment to enemies?

[svp67]

Quote: Dashout

I'm afraid to ask: how is it protected from the wind? Do not take it along with valuable equipment to enemies?

Protection is the easiest. In the form of a valve that opens at the right time and the airship lowers ....

[maxim947]

A repeater is a necessary thing here and now.
And yet, military communications should ensure continuity, security and reliability. So this bubble does not fit into more than one of them, I’m telling you as a military signalman. These tsatskis are effective only in exercises. Do not forget about the additional equipment for the production of gaseous helium, which is very energy-intensive.

[alatanas]

I completely agree.

According to Popov, the need to build in advance a system of ground stations with large antennas leads to the unmasking of troops: “the enemy receives a warning about the operation being prepared.”

Like a balloon smaller than antennas? If it is a repeater, it should have a pair of antennas, two receivers and two transmitters, and all this needs power (without antennas).

[okko077]

And here you can argue ... How does a ball on a leash differ from a ground repeater or mast of a stationary reconnaissance post? Why use expensive materials and gases if you only attach sensors, cameras, thermal imagers ... and antennas to the ball, and put all the equipment on the ground beneath it .. or in the car ... You don’t need to show off and imitate fashion, which increase many times cost ... These bizarre forms, safe gases ... Everything is simpler: cheaper and more, more false ones ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dashout

Do not take it along with valuable equipment to enemies?

8))))
This is a tethered balloon. Tied-up means on a cable. 8))
It can be pressed to the ground, but for this the wind must be hurricane

[maxim947]

Where did you see the tantrum?)) Is just ridiculous. The Americans repeated the success of the Soviet "BORA" and so far have not brought anything special and we made a technological breakthrough with the balloon)) Seriously, the balloon is also needed, it was just a joke, no more

[Lopatov]

Quote: maxim947

Although I’m not going to recover, he is not needed ...

Do you think an expensive repeater aircraft is much more practical? Or just a companion, if you press money in your pocket ...

[stas]

This ball will be knocked down very quickly and the general’s opinion will not be asked.

[Lopatov]

Quote: stas

This ball will hit very quickly

Do saboteurs drag behind the enemy ZSU-23-2 and heroically destroy it?

[Lopatov]

Quote: maxim947

After positive tests by the Americans of their shuttle - this news somehow does not "sound")))

And if so:

This is PTDS from Lockheed Martin. Modern, the contract was closed in May 2012.

[maxim947]

There is information about its effective use? In addition to the video of their falls, I did not find other information.

[Lopatov]

Quote: maxim947

There is information about its effective use?

Yes.
Both him and the "younger brother" PGSS

In general, the "pioneers" in this area were the Israelis. and they have no option to supply the troops with the unnecessary or ineffective.

[maxim947]

Amazing)))

[svp67]

A long-standing solution. But why is a balloon type airship, not a flying wing?

[Jedi]

Good question. Apparently, the developer had his own reasons for choosing the type.

[okko077]

The general did not explain, but simply justified for his stupidity and chronic lag .... Banal truth finally reached the "smartest" ... Now we will wait for such devices to appear or just balls on a leash, and they will be used as stationary posts observation and issuance of information .... I just want to ask the question to the "leaders": in order to transfer commands to the troops, you first need to transmit information about the enemy and the situation in the position area, but in order to transmit it, do you need to get it using some kind of device? .... These information and transmission devices need to be created, implemented and integrated into systems, and also to control weapons in real time .... How much more can this be expected from the smartest degenerates in our army, or rather, in its smartest leadership? This is the number one priority in our army, and they don’t even know about it .... There are two ways: change priorities and remain a backward army, or change degenerates in the leadership of this army ....

[san4es]

The balloon complex is recommended for adoption and for mass production,

... And "Relight" was blown away?

The Peresvet balloon was created as part of the Animation project in the interests of the Ministry of Defense. The Peresvet mobile aeronautic complex was designed primarily for the long-term (up to 15 days) holding of surveillance equipment, communications, early warning of enemy attacks and effective support of military operations at an altitude of up to 3 km. The Peresvet aerostat was created on the basis of an 8-layer polymer fabric, which was developed in Russia. The material is welded with high-frequency currents (HDTV), which provided the shell with high reliability and increased its service life up to 5 years. Inside the gas-containing shell, the balloon (bag with air under pressure) “works”, which expands in the case of a decrease in the internal volume of the balloon due to helium leakage and causes the balloon shell to maintain aerodynamic shape. To ensure stable operation of the balloon on the shell, electric motors are reinforced, forcing air into it. For the operation of all onboard equipment, including the payload, electricity is supplied from the ground via a cable cable: 1000 volts 50 amperes, in particular, 27 volts 16 amperes are required for the operation of three intake engines. In the field, the electric current produces a diesel generator. In case of force majeure, when electricity does not come on board, there is a “technological alternative” for replenishing the balloon in the form of a special air intake “pocket”.
The payload on board, depending on the height of the berth, can reach up to 400 kg. At the maximum parking height of 3000 m, the Peresvet balloon was designed to hold equipment weighing 250 kg.

[okko077]

And what is the cost? Probably the Tu-214P is cheaper? Why should he fly, why carry 400 kg ... A dead end, further research is not needed or for cutting "dough" ... Recommended for production, by whom, honored pilot Popov? Pilots are not technical experts!

[Lopatov]

Quote: san4es

And "Relight" was blown away?

The balloon from this complex (МЦ0100-0), like Peresvet, is Dolgoprudnensky. One office.
Vega just stuffed him with her electronics

[padded jacket]

A "small" balloon, like before in Syria, hung over Hmeimim then disappeared.

Balloon Over Hmeimim
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2092562.html

[okko077]

Uncles played and left ... The balloon should be included in the system, and not simple, but information, and not just information, but information and combat, this means controlling weapons ... For this we need Combat Information Systems, appropriate equipment, common standards , suggesting the possibility of interaction with different types of weapon guidance systems "Coalition SV", MLRS, helicopters, airplanes .... and control centers with decision-making authority within their position areas without coordination ... We do not have such systems, and we don’t is foreseen. This is evident in Syria, and in the DPR and LPR, and in Central Asia ... We do not even have the concept of such systems as the concept of conducting modern local hostilities ... True, Syria has shown all our capabilities, or rather, impossibilities in this regard .. .But we have Heroes in the General Staff and in the Moscow Region with big stars, but crazy in the head ... who send and will send to death the heroes of reconnaissance spotters instead of technical reconnaissance devices ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: okko077

Uncles played and left ...

Most likely they just tested it and now when two A-50s and another necessary equipment appeared in Syria, it is apparently already unnecessary.

[Manul]

Such technologies have already flickered somewhere. Without sarcasm, just reminded.

[Mentat]

Quote: maxim947

And yet, military communications must ensure continuity, security и credibility. So this bubble does not fit into more than one of them, I’m telling you as a military signalman.

How did you define this as a military signalman? For a can of beer in the morning just like that thought?
As for continuity, you are probably a writer, not a reader: this is a mobile tool for creating temporary communication channels.
"High mobility will allow you to quickly organize high-speed communications ... during a military operation, performing emergency combat missions or operational tactical exercises."

[Settlement Oparyshev]

I add that communication in this way can be arranged over long distances.

[Eflintuk]

Ultra-long-distance radio communication, over-the-horizon radar - rzhunemagu ...

[faterdom]

And does anyone know how the channels were relayed along the rockets and communication axes? That's never cheap, and quite expensive - radio relay, troposphere, and wired connection! Plus, there is almost always something on the ground that is not conducive to one, then another, then to all three types of communication. There is radio communication, but it was not high-speed and is unlikely to be - not the same capacity in the frequency range of HF and VHF radio communications. There is satellite communication - but it is limited by the available capacities of satellites, and indeed their availability and performance.
So, a Wi-Max type repeater on a balloon is a very cheap and angry solution for the rapid creation of high-speed channels. I think at the level of PU divisions or higher, so this will not be near the front line.