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Technological breakthrough: Russia has created an ELISE processor

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Russian developers have presented the latest ELISE processor, which is currently one of the most high-tech products of domestic electronics. It is noteworthy that the chip is made on 28 nanometer process, which allowed to contain in it 1,5 billion transistors. ELISE can be integrated into a wide range of devices, but its main purpose is industrial. One of the spheres of implementation, of course, will be medicine.


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  1. raid14
    raid14 13 November 2017 10: 42 New
    +2
    What a breakthrough? This technology is a 32/28 nm process technology that corresponds to the level of technology achieved by 2009-2010 by leading chip manufacturers.
    Now in the west, 10 nm technology already exists.
    At the beginning of 2017, 10 nm output was about 1% of TSMC products.
    Samsung launched 10nm production in 2017.
    Apple A11 Bionic - 64-bit six-core processor for iPhone 8 (2017)
    Cannonlake - desktop processors from Intel
    Snapdragon 835.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Технологический_про
    cess_in_electronic_industry # 32_.D0.BD.D0.BC
    _.2F_28_.D0.BD.D0.B
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 13 November 2017 10: 58 New
      +3
      Why are 10 and even 14 nm processors not used in American space technology?
    2. maratk
      maratk 13 November 2017 11: 03 New
      15
      you must carefully read the article. it says "DOMESTIC ELECTRONICS" in black and white. everyone knows that in the field of electronics, Russia is not at the forefront. and this case suggests that we are not behind by 20-30 years as before, but by 7-8 years. you confirm with your conclusions. so catch up. and I hope to catch up and overtake.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 13 November 2017 13: 49 New
        +3
        Technological breakthrough: Russia has created an ELISE processor
        laughed sadly.
        1. ihappy
          ihappy 14 November 2017 00: 29 New
          +2
          Well, you're an enemy for the Russian Federation. So you are sad for the successes of your homeland.
        2. alpha3
          alpha3 14 November 2017 14: 01 New
          +2
          And you laugh at it: The development of chips in China for the first time brought more money than production. https://3dnews.ru/961348/
          So there is nothing funny in the fact that Russia can design such complex devices. It is valued far more than production.
        3. Sergey Volkov
          Sergey Volkov 14 November 2017 20: 18 New
          0
          I hope there were no tears?
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 13 November 2017 15: 44 New
        12
        The only thing we are lagging behind is in microminiaturization. We recall Elbrus, the first computer network, the first network for distributed computing, the first network for parallel computing, the same PENTIUM, excuse me - this is the transfer of Elbrus circuitry by the Soviet designer to microcircuits with American funding.
        I don’t even want to repeat about the domestic priority in solving algorithmic problems.
        You do not like the “breakthrough” in 28 nm - praise Samsung with its ten. But our industry got the opportunity to build 28 nm systems on Russian territory. And that's great! Add radiation resistance and the weight of electronics for space is almost equal to the "partners".
        At the same time, the quality and functionality of our electronics will be an order of magnitude higher.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 14 November 2017 04: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Vlad.by
          At the same time, the quality and functionality of our electronics will be an order of magnitude higher.
          This thesis is extremely doubtful. On what basis do you judge this?
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 14 November 2017 15: 15 New
            +2
            Based on a much higher quality software.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 14 November 2017 17: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Vlad.by
              Based on a much higher quality software.
              Compared to who better? With the USA and Asian tigers? It’s not funny for yourself?
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 14 November 2017 20: 01 New
                +3
                Not at all funny! Given that American fashion startups writing programs of 50% or more are equipped with immigrants from the former USSR, and Asian tigers mainly order third-party software in the Russian Federation, Belarus and 404.
                Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
                So it’s not at all funny!
        2. misti1973
          misti1973 15 November 2017 21: 11 New
          0
          What nonsense, how will he be able to compete if everyone has long gone ahead? Or will he be forced to buy?
        3. ivankursk46
          ivankursk46 16 November 2017 00: 15 New
          0
          The funny thing is that I did not hear that it would be produced in Russia. The same Elbrus processors are made somewhere in Southeast Asia.
    3. Shurale
      Shurale 14 November 2017 08: 27 New
      +3
      So you want to say that our scientists are engaged in garbage? Ie attempts to catch up with world technology idiocy? And what do you offer them to do?
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 12 February 2018 11: 58 New
        0
        It’s not always worth catching up. Many, including Western scientists, understand that a new quality of technology is needed, especially in mathematical analysis itself. That is, work with large mathematical data cannot be based on the algorithm search algorithm itself, which relies on a function of a variable value of a number. In other words, the algorithms themselves as an information processing tool should also be analyzed as an algorithmic process of their construction. In other words, the task of mathematicians should not be to search for, for example, the last in a row prime number and not only to search for an algorithm for such a search for the laws of a series, but to search for such irrational or other sequences in general. Therefore, this is only possible if you work with a transistor direct conversion of email. magnetic pulse in number And it should only be a multipolar transistor on the numbers of the series.
    4. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 14 November 2017 15: 08 New
      0
      Well, you - this is the mobile segment, do not drag it.
      Although there is no doubt - there isn’t even a lag behind the principle of those processes used, but that there is no production like that.
    5. Alex K
      Alex K 15 November 2017 00: 35 New
      +2
      however, "Apple A11 Bionic - a 64-bit six-core processor for the iPhone 8" in the rockets that fly into space do not put
    6. neurogen
      neurogen 16 November 2017 15: 36 New
      0
      some chasing the digits in the technological process, others chasing the digits in the core, but in fact everyone works on the "old" technological process and the debugged kernel and do not bother, there are always fetishists that are in iPhones and in technological processes
  2. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 13 November 2017 13: 13 New
    +6
    Quote: raid14
    What a breakthrough? This technology is a 32/28 nm process technology that corresponds to the level of technology achieved by 2009-2010 by leading chip manufacturers.
    Now in the west, 10 nm technology already exists.
    At the beginning of 2017, 10 nm output was about 1% of TSMC products.
    Samsung launched 10nm production in 2017.
    Apple A11 Bionic - 64-bit six-core processor for iPhone 8 (2017)
    Cannonlake - desktop processors from Intel
    Snapdragon 835.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Технологический_про
    cess_in_electronic_industry # 32_.D0.BD.D0.BC
    _.2F_28_.D0.BD.D0.B

    All Soviet developments in the field of microprocessors in the early 90's insolently steal p.i.nd.so.sy with the help of the corrupt Penkovsky
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 14 November 2017 02: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Tolik_74
      All Soviet developments in the field of microprocessors in the early 90s brazenly steal

      Yes, yes, the evil Murikans could never come up with anything, but only robbed the unfortunate Russian / Soviet scientists. Do not carry nonsense.
      1. Alex K
        Alex K 15 November 2017 00: 26 New
        0
        in general, the first computer was built in the USSR before it was assembled in the garage by the jops ... and he built it just according to the development of a simple engineer, who, by the way, even then developed a 3D printer
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 14 November 2017 05: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: Tolik_74
      corrupt Penkovsky
      What is corruption? The man found a place where his development was appreciated, and not thrown to the sidelines. Who needed domestic microelectronics in Russia in the early 90s, when everything was falling apart and falling apart.
      1. thinking
        thinking 21 February 2018 15: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        What is corruption? The man found a place where his development was appreciated, and not thrown to the sidelines.

        Squirting a little through the dictionaries.
        Dictionary of Russian synonyms: corruption - corruption, corruption, corruption. antonym: honesty, integrity.
        Political Dictionary: Corruption (from lat. Corruptio bribery) direct use by an official of his official position for personal gain.
        In our case, Penkovsky, as a public servant (not as a private person!), Owned some technology representing the property of the people, and not some of his personal developments. He was offered good money for these technologies. If he had honesty and integrity, he would have remained in his native country, but he sold out and, for the sake of personal enrichment, having stolen technology, went to America.
        The fact that everyone was crumbling and plundered around cannot be an excuse.
        There is corruption and betrayal of their homeland.
        PS Ask who owned the intellectual property of such developments at that time.
  3. i-vic
    i-vic 13 November 2017 16: 15 New
    +1
    Briefly looked at the list of vacancies of the "manufacturer" of processors. Mostly programmers are required. Microelectronics engineers, lithography specialists, etc. are not required.
    1. thinker
      thinker 13 November 2017 17: 26 New
      +1
      Yes, not a manufacturer, but the developer. IPhones are also made in China.
      The chip was created with the financial participation of Rusnano. The direct production site was selected by the factory of the Taiwanese company TSMC - the world's largest manufacturer of semiconductors by order.
      http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/22303
  4. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 14 November 2017 04: 22 New
    +2
    The road will be overpowered by a walker. You just need to work, do it and we will succeed.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 14 November 2017 05: 03 New
      0
      There is such a moment. Extremely important. It is likely that when domestic developers achieve real success in this area and achieve some kind of competitiveness, large Western companies may become interested in them and eventually re-buy (offer to become part of a subsidiary, etc.) Will they take such a step domestic developers, that’s the question ...
      1. Alex K
        Alex K 15 November 2017 00: 29 New
        0
        state money invested in Russian projects .... who will let them leave ???
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 15 November 2017 11: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Alex K
          invested state money
          The development company is private. What kind of government money?
          1. Lycan
            Lycan 7 December 2017 16: 20 New
            +1
            Contractors work like that. On a private basis for the money of the client (in this case. State-va) and for the purposes determined by the client.
  5. Alexander S
    Alexander S 14 November 2017 12: 17 New
    +1
    Headlines, of course, tear ratings. It was necessary so, we managed to copy the technology five years ago and finally create a morally and technically backward processor. But this is already an achievement for us. Give the bobble yet.
    1. vlanis
      vlanis 14 November 2017 15: 58 New
      0
      Of course, you are right about the headlines, but about the morally and technically backward ... Where do you know this from?
    2. Alex K
      Alex K 15 November 2017 00: 33 New
      +1
      Well, firstly, it’s not to copy, but to develop .... and it’s not so backward, if our processors were compared to NIVU with a Porsche both in the AU and in space and in an airplane ... you’re doing the same thing about ...
    3. Ehanatone
      Ehanatone 29 November 2017 22: 06 New
      -1
      Alexander S
      Vi answered the two, eat a count!
  6. Cynic
    Cynic 15 November 2017 12: 35 New
    +2
    Here I sit and think how much technology 28nm is needed and how much it is enough ...
    Yes, if anything, I read all this on a sistemnik with a 45nm stone and somehow it doesn’t bother me, I did it a bit earlier when I read about our ordinary 90nm and breakthrough 60nm ...
  7. SergF123
    SergF123 17 November 2017 08: 04 New
    +1
    I have only one question .... - And where will I produce these new products ?! - If, like Yota, in China, then what national technologies can we talk about ...?! If in the Russian Federation, then praise the Gods for the enlightenment of the powers that be and Co., although .... in my opinion they have nothing to do with it.
    1. thinking
      thinking 21 February 2018 15: 27 New
      0
      Quote: SergF123
      I have only one question .... - And where will I produce these new products ?!

      And I have a question for you: is the development of the processor, and even under the new process technology such a trifling matter that there is nothing to talk about?
  8. Brigadier
    Brigadier 18 January 2018 13: 23 New
    0
    ... bundled with the processor are:
    - two removable handles to carry it at close range ...
    - fortified backpack - to carry over long distances ...

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