Technological breakthrough: Russia has created an ELISE processor

Russian developers have presented the latest ELISE processor, which is currently one of the most high-tech products of domestic electronics. It is noteworthy that the chip is made on 28 nanometer process, which allowed to contain in it 1,5 billion transistors. ELISE can be integrated into a wide range of devices, but its main purpose is industrial. One of the spheres of implementation, of course, will be medicine.

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[raid14]

What a breakthrough? This technology is a 32/28 nm process technology that corresponds to the level of technology achieved by 2009-2010 by leading chip manufacturers.
Now in the west, 10 nm technology already exists.
At the beginning of 2017, 10 nm output was about 1% of TSMC products.
Samsung launched 10nm production in 2017.
Apple A11 Bionic - 64-bit six-core processor for iPhone 8 (2017)
Cannonlake - desktop processors from Intel
Snapdragon 835.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Технологический_про
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[ImPerts]

Why are 10 and even 14 nm processors not used in American space technology?

[maratk]

you must carefully read the article. it says "DOMESTIC ELECTRONICS" in black and white. everyone knows that in the field of electronics, Russia is not at the forefront. and this case suggests that we are not behind by 20-30 years as before, but by 7-8 years. you confirm with your conclusions. so catch up. and I hope to catch up and overtake.

[Grandfather]

Technological breakthrough: Russia has created an ELISE processor

laughed sadly.

[happy]

Well, you're an enemy for the Russian Federation. So you are sad for the successes of your homeland.

[alpha3]

And you laugh at it: The development of chips in China for the first time brought more money than production. https://3dnews.ru/961348/
So there is nothing funny in the fact that Russia can design such complex devices. It is valued far more than production.

[Sergey Volkov]

I hope there were no tears?

[Vlad.by]

The only thing we are lagging behind is in microminiaturization. We recall Elbrus, the first computer network, the first network for distributed computing, the first network for parallel computing, the same PENTIUM, excuse me - this is the transfer of Elbrus circuitry by the Soviet designer to microcircuits with American funding.
I don’t even want to repeat about the domestic priority in solving algorithmic problems.
You do not like the “breakthrough” in 28 nm - praise Samsung with its ten. But our industry got the opportunity to build 28 nm systems on Russian territory. And that's great! Add radiation resistance and the weight of electronics for space is almost equal to the "partners".
At the same time, the quality and functionality of our electronics will be an order of magnitude higher.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vlad.by

At the same time, the quality and functionality of our electronics will be an order of magnitude higher.

This thesis is extremely doubtful. On what basis do you judge this?

[Vlad.by]

Based on a much higher quality software.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vlad.by

Based on a much higher quality software.

Compared to who better? With the USA and Asian tigers? It’s not funny for yourself?

[Vlad.by]

Not at all funny! Given that American fashion startups writing programs of 50% or more are equipped with immigrants from the former USSR, and Asian tigers mainly order third-party software in the Russian Federation, Belarus and 404.
Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
So it’s not at all funny!

[misti1973]

What nonsense, how will he be able to compete if everyone has long gone ahead? Or will he be forced to buy?

[ivankursk46]

The funny thing is that I did not hear that it would be produced in Russia. The same Elbrus processors are made somewhere in Southeast Asia.

[Shurale]

So you want to say that our scientists are engaged in garbage? Ie attempts to catch up with world technology idiocy? And what do you offer them to do?

[gridasov]

It’s not always worth catching up. Many, including Western scientists, understand that a new quality of technology is needed, especially in mathematical analysis itself. That is, work with large mathematical data cannot be based on the algorithm search algorithm itself, which relies on a function of a variable value of a number. In other words, the algorithms themselves as an information processing tool should also be analyzed as an algorithmic process of their construction. In other words, the task of mathematicians should not be to search for, for example, the last in a row prime number and not only to search for an algorithm for such a search for the laws of a series, but to search for such irrational or other sequences in general. Therefore, this is only possible if you work with a transistor direct conversion of email. magnetic pulse in number And it should only be a multipolar transistor on the numbers of the series.

[Evgeny Strygin]

Well, you - this is the mobile segment, do not drag it.
Although there is no doubt - there isn’t even a lag behind the principle of those processes used, but that there is no production like that.

[Alex K]

however, "Apple A11 Bionic - a 64-bit six-core processor for the iPhone 8" in the rockets that fly into space do not put

[neurogen]

some chasing the digits in the technological process, others chasing the digits in the core, but in fact everyone works on the "old" technological process and the debugged kernel and do not bother, there are always fetishists that are in iPhones and in technological processes

[Tolik_74]

Quote: raid14

What a breakthrough? This technology is a 32/28 nm process technology that corresponds to the level of technology achieved by 2009-2010 by leading chip manufacturers.
Now in the west, 10 nm technology already exists.
At the beginning of 2017, 10 nm output was about 1% of TSMC products.
Samsung launched 10nm production in 2017.
Apple A11 Bionic - 64-bit six-core processor for iPhone 8 (2017)
Cannonlake - desktop processors from Intel
Snapdragon 835.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Технологический_про
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All Soviet developments in the field of microprocessors in the early 90's insolently steal p.i.nd.so.sy with the help of the corrupt Penkovsky

[Black5Raven]

Quote: Tolik_74

All Soviet developments in the field of microprocessors in the early 90s brazenly steal

Yes, yes, the evil Murikans could never come up with anything, but only robbed the unfortunate Russian / Soviet scientists. Do not carry nonsense.

[Alex K]

in general, the first computer was built in the USSR before it was assembled in the garage by the jops ... and he built it just according to the development of a simple engineer, who, by the way, even then developed a 3D printer

[Greenwood]

Quote: Tolik_74

corrupt Penkovsky

What is corruption? The man found a place where his development was appreciated, and not thrown to the sidelines. Who needed domestic microelectronics in Russia in the early 90s, when everything was falling apart and falling apart.

[thinking]

Quote: Greenwood

What is corruption? The man found a place where his development was appreciated, and not thrown to the sidelines.

Squirting a little through the dictionaries.
Dictionary of Russian synonyms: corruption - corruption, corruption, corruption. antonym: honesty, integrity.
Political Dictionary: Corruption (from lat. Corruptio bribery) direct use by an official of his official position for personal gain.
In our case, Penkovsky, as a public servant (not as a private person!), Owned some technology representing the property of the people, and not some of his personal developments. He was offered good money for these technologies. If he had honesty and integrity, he would have remained in his native country, but he sold out and, for the sake of personal enrichment, having stolen technology, went to America.
The fact that everyone was crumbling and plundered around cannot be an excuse.
There is corruption and betrayal of their homeland.
PS Ask who owned the intellectual property of such developments at that time.

[i-vic]

Briefly looked at the list of vacancies of the "manufacturer" of processors. Mostly programmers are required. Microelectronics engineers, lithography specialists, etc. are not required.

[thinker]

Yes, not a manufacturer, but the developer. IPhones are also made in China.

The chip was created with the financial participation of Rusnano. The direct production site was selected by the factory of the Taiwanese company TSMC - the world's largest manufacturer of semiconductors by order.

http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/22303

[Siberia 9444]

The road will be overpowered by a walker. You just need to work, do it and we will succeed.

[Greenwood]

There is such a moment. Extremely important. It is likely that when domestic developers achieve real success in this area and achieve some kind of competitiveness, large Western companies may become interested in them and eventually re-buy (offer to become part of a subsidiary, etc.) Will they take such a step domestic developers, that’s the question ...

[Alex K]

state money invested in Russian projects .... who will let them leave ???

[Greenwood]

Quote: Alex K

invested state money

The development company is private. What kind of government money?

[Lycan]

Contractors work like that. On a private basis for the money of the client (in this case. State-va) and for the purposes determined by the client.

[Alexander S]

Headlines, of course, tear ratings. It was necessary so, we managed to copy the technology five years ago and finally create a morally and technically backward processor. But this is already an achievement for us. Give the bobble yet.

[vlanis]

Of course, you are right about the headlines, but about the morally and technically backward ... Where do you know this from?

[Alex K]

Well, firstly, it’s not to copy, but to develop .... and it’s not so backward, if our processors were compared to NIVU with a Porsche both in the AU and in space and in an airplane ... you’re doing the same thing about ...

[Ehanatone]

Alexander S
Vi answered the two, eat a count!

[Cynic]

Here I sit and think how much technology 28nm is needed and how much it is enough ...
Yes, if anything, I read all this on a sistemnik with a 45nm stone and somehow it doesn’t bother me, I did it a bit earlier when I read about our ordinary 90nm and breakthrough 60nm ...

[SergF123]

I have only one question .... - And where will I produce these new products ?! - If, like Yota, in China, then what national technologies can we talk about ...?! If in the Russian Federation, then praise the Gods for the enlightenment of the powers that be and Co., although .... in my opinion they have nothing to do with it.

[thinking]

Quote: SergF123

I have only one question .... - And where will I produce these new products ?!

And I have a question for you: is the development of the processor, and even under the new process technology such a trifling matter that there is nothing to talk about?

[Brigadier]

... bundled with the processor are:
- two removable handles to carry it at close range ...
- fortified backpack - to carry over long distances ...