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The developer will present the military two concepts of high-speed helicopter

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Next year, Russian Helicopters will present to the Russian defense ministry two concepts of a prospective high-speed helicopter (PSV), from which the military will select a project for further development, reports RIA News the message of the head of the holding Andrei Boginsky.




According to the CEO of the company, two design offices are working on the concepts. It is expected that the new helicopter will be able to reach speeds up to 350 kilometers per hour.

Earlier, the holding's deputy head Andrei Shibitov told reporters that in June 2016, the promising Russian helicopter was supposed to make the first flight at a speed of 400-450 kilometers per hour. However, in March of this year, Boginsky explained that the work on a high-speed car is still at the stage of a sketch of a technical project.

Currently, the speed of modern helicopters, including drums of the type Mi-28H "Night Hunter", is limited to a speed of about 300 kilometers per hour.
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RIA News / press service of the holding "Helicopters of Russia"
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  1. 100502
    100502 13 November 2017 08: 41 New
    +4
    It is expected that by 2050 it may be built
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 13 November 2017 09: 14 New
      +3
      For such speeds, you need to develop a convertiplane.
      For him the future, IMHO))
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 November 2017 09: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: maxim947
        For such speeds, you need to develop a convertiplane.

        What for? He has the same problems with the supersonic speed of the wingtips as in the helicopters of the classical scheme. Moreover, they are several orders of magnitude more dangerous than them because of the lack of the possibility of landing on autorotation.
        The future is for a hybrid helicopter and gyroplane
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 November 2017 13: 43 New
          +2
          This Ka-90 is what you need.
          The combination of a classic helicopter and a jet plane.
          The screw folds compactly back and turns on
          conventional jet engine. Whoever does it first will be king.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 November 2017 13: 53 New
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The screw folds compactly back and turns on
            conventional jet engine.

            He immediately turns on. And the main rotor folds only when it reaches a sufficient speed for this.

            Jet propulsion aircraft of this type have long been developed. The thing is to achieve a speed at which the main rotor will not be needed.
    2. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 13 November 2017 09: 22 New
      +1
      Not funny, the usual thing is the development of new technologies and implementation.
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 13 November 2017 09: 55 New
        +5
        This phrase was perplexing:
        two design bureaus are working on concepts

        But is there still a design bureau in Russia that has colossal experience in designing helicopters except Mil and Kamov? what
  2. Yoshi
    Yoshi 13 November 2017 08: 54 New
    +7
    School is. There is money. The problems are always the same - organizational and managerial ...
    I believe it will be! If only designers were paid, and defectors were punished. They would be returned from Boeing, from China, and to the “sharazhka" ... Special forces in the SVR would be busy with a promising, creative business.
    1. Zhelezyakin
      Zhelezyakin 13 November 2017 09: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: Yoshi
      defectors - punished. Would return from Boeing, from China, and to "sharazhka" ...


      It is not clear why you propose punishing them ... For the fact that money is going to earn ?! So they don’t pay at home. Maybe better top managers and aligarchs in shorts ?! From them, in the design sense, that from that goat of milk ...
      1. Yoshi
        Yoshi 13 November 2017 12: 53 New
        0
        Tear it out of context
        What should be taken away from small ones ...

        Read carefully: "If only the designers were paid, and the defectors were punished."
        1. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 13 November 2017 14: 14 New
          +3
          Speak clearer ... Defectors, who is this?
          1. Yoshi
            Yoshi 13 November 2017 14: 39 New
            0
            Designers who get paid well while they run
            1. Zhelezyakin
              Zhelezyakin 13 November 2017 14: 50 New
              +4
              Those. In your opinion, a person who works in another state or at a company with foreign roots is a defector? What laws did he break that you offer him in a sharazhka? Half of the country we work in various joint ventures with Siemens Boengs and others like them ...
              1. Yoshi
                Yoshi 13 November 2017 19: 35 New
                0
                Yes. I think so.
                Laws today are such that "half of the country" works for foreign capital, and those holding power contribute to this. From that we shall be scarce. It is necessary to train personnel, to ensure continuity and development, to keep specialists with security and law. Otherwise, those who print paper can always offer more.
                I close the topic. I won’t answer anymore. I never saw your opinion, but the questions are clear.
                1. Zhelezyakin
                  Zhelezyakin 14 November 2017 10: 25 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Yoshi
                  Laws today are such that "half of the country" works for foreign capital, and those holding power contribute to this. From that we shall be scarce. It is necessary to train personnel, to ensure continuity and development, to keep specialists with security and law.

                  Here under these your words I will subscribe to all 100% !!!
                  In the meantime, nothing will change with current legislation and the employer. The constructor is also a person and he wants to eat as well as a manager, a lawyer and so on and so forth.
                  PS
                  With sharazhki more accurately, and even so until the 37th year of the last century is not far!
  3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
    Lavrenti Pavlovich 13 November 2017 08: 55 New
    +5
    Well, why do we need a helicopter whose speed is 50km / h higher? Redo conveyors again? There are too few alligators and night hunters, and if you run another new, not breakthrough, model in the series, it is not economically profitable.
    1. Ardein
      Ardein 13 November 2017 11: 03 New
      0
      You simply do not know the real possibilities of modern helicopters.
      The same Ka-52 dive can accelerate to 390km / h ... this is the topic of glider resistance and more. And most of his flight modes are limited to ACS.
      The question is rather in the appointment of a new helicopter. For example, a hidden and high-speed transfer unit MTR.
    2. not main
      not main 13 November 2017 21: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      Well, why do we need a helicopter whose speed is 50km / h higher? Redo conveyors again? There are too few alligators and night hunters, and if you run another new, not breakthrough, model in the series, it is not economically profitable.

      I completely agree! Especially when you consider that the Mi-24 has a maximum speed of 325 km / h in the horizon (it was accelerated to 350 without BK, the engines didn’t even get rated, they worked at cruising), and the Mi-6 generally had a maximum speed in TTD of 350 km / hours And where is the breakthrough? Yes, and is it necessary?
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 13 November 2017 09: 01 New
    0
    In my opinion, the reserves of the traditional helicopter propeller are already exhausted. If you don’t take into account the different types of convertiplanes, I see the real increase in the speed of the traditional helicopter in the use of a combination of main and pushing screws. The circuit has been tested by Cheyenne for example. Is it interesting that the Holding was muddied?
    1. tracer
      tracer 13 November 2017 22: 20 New
      0
      Theoretically possible. But why ? Well, have achieved about 600 characteristics and what will it give? Huge fuel consumption. Manageability with problems and in the future, with a further increase in speed, turning into an airplane? Question what for goat button accordion? A mixture of a bulldog with a rhino?
  5. Sergei75
    Sergei75 13 November 2017 09: 08 New
    +2
    Oh damn it! 300 km \ h - a regular helicopter, 350-speed? Crap!
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 13 November 2017 09: 28 New
    +1
    I still do not quite understand this race for the speed of a helicopter. What for? The pinwheel has its own niche in which it coexists perfectly. There are their goods, their tasks. Why make a high-speed machine out of a turntable, especially a combat one, if a light aircraft makes it in speed without any effort? And most likely with the same load and protection.
    If this whole song is due to vertical take-off and landing or hover mode, so in my opinion a dubious win. Get something like Osprey. And they do not differ in reliability.
  7. Dead duck
    Dead duck 13 November 2017 09: 34 New
    +6
    The new helicopter is expected to reach speeds of up to 350 kilometers per hour.

    It used to be speed for a regular production helicopter, but now only for high-speed what
    And if it develops 400-500 km / h, will it become super-duper fast? wassat
  8. starogil
    starogil 13 November 2017 09: 35 New
    +1
    They will present the concept after: ".... that in June 2016 a promising Russian helicopter was supposed to make its first flight at a speed of 400-450 kilometers per hour. ...."
    It seems to have flown off, all the Soviet groundwork has been exhausted, sold for the mounds.
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 13 November 2017 09: 43 New
    +1
    Earlier, the holding's deputy head Andrei Shibitov told reporters that in June 2016, the promising Russian helicopter was supposed to make the first flight at a speed of 400-450 kilometers per hour. However, in March of this year, Boginsky explained that the work on a high-speed car is still at the stage of a sketch of a technical project.
    So far, one conclusion can be made that the words are at odds with the deed. The question is, why should such a statement be called into question the business reputation of the whole holding? "PR at any cost!" , this style is now in fashion.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 November 2017 09: 47 New
    0
    Gentlemen, calmly. Such projects without a serious backlog (a flying prototype, for example) do not "move" to state financing. IMHO, there will be a variant of the "Alligator" with a pushing screw and a speed of approximately 450. The coaxial circuit in these matters "rules" ...