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Emirates are waiting for Russia to help develop weapons production, reports RIA News The message of the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the United Arab Emirates Abdullah Al-Hashemi.


MiG-29

The memorandum of understanding signed earlier between the Emirates and Russia provides for joint cooperation, the development of the UAE military industry and the capabilities of the UAE in the military sphere, we are watching how Russia can help us in this,
Al-Hashemi said on the sidelines of the Dubai Airshow 2017 air show.

Earlier it was reported that the Russian Federation and the United Arab Emirates are planning to jointly develop a fifth-generation Russian-Emirates fighter based on the MiG-29, as well as a Russian-Emirates infantry fighting vehicle.

In turn, Sergey Chemezov, general director of the Rostec state corporation, told reporters about the parties' intention to develop transport and passenger planes for the Emirates based on MC-21.

They (the Emirates side) want to create with us a large transport aircraft and a passenger one on the basis of MC-21-400. They have a lot of wishes. By the way, they talked with the crown prince in the UAE, including on this subject,
said Chemezov.

He also said that in the near future a Russian-UAE working group will be set up to jointly create an airliner based on MS-21.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 12 November 2017 18: 54 New
    +9
    Well. Money is theirs, ideas are ours. Prior to this, the scheme worked, God forbid, what would work now.
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 12 November 2017 19: 03 New
      12
      Quote: svp67
      Well. Money is theirs, ideas are ours. Prior to this, the scheme worked, God forbid, what would work now.

      Who knows these Arabs? How everything will be ... They also hoped for the Indians!
      Arabs also change clothes and change their shoes!
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 November 2017 19: 06 New
        +9
        Quote: Anarchist
        Who knows these Arabs? How everything will be ... They also hoped for the Indians!

        Well, the cooperation with the Emir people didn’t go bad on BMP-3 and RPG Vampire ... I really like the direction on MS-21 in these plans. Thanks to him, this plane has prospects.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 10 New
          +7
          Quote: svp67
          RPG "Vampire"

          ?
          You have not confused with the Barkas / Hashim for the Jordanians?
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 November 2017 19: 19 New
            +6
            hi
            Quote: Spade
            You have not confused with the Barkas / Hashim for the Jordanians?

            That’s why I don’t like specialists, because I’m not allowed to lie ....

            1. Going
              Going 12 November 2017 19: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: svp67
              Well. Money is theirs, ideas are ours. Prior to this, the scheme worked, God forbid, what would work now.


              It may turn out not very bad cooperation with mutual benefit.
        2. destination
          destination 12 November 2017 19: 20 New
          +3
          Prospects? In your opinion, it all depends on foreign supplies?
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 November 2017 19: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: destination
            Prospects? In your opinion, it all depends on foreign supplies?

            With MS-21 - YES. Our market is LITTLE for such a machine.
            1. Fight
              Fight 12 November 2017 19: 31 New
              +1
              In Boeing, they don’t think so!
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 November 2017 19: 35 New
                +7
                Quote: Fight
                In Boeing, they don’t think so!

                In the sense? In Boeing, they believe that:
                - do they have enough of the US market?
                - do they have enough of the Russian market?
                DO NOT MAKE ME LAUGH. Such a technique has a concept of profitability and it is determined in particular by the number of machines produced and the more they are produced and sold, the higher the profitability coefficient. Why is Boeing and Drowning Airbus now? They need new markets.
                1. Fight
                  Fight 12 November 2017 19: 37 New
                  0
                  Pirogov below a clearer thought expressed!
            2. destination
              destination 12 November 2017 19: 31 New
              +4
              Well, here, I agree. And about the rest (weapons) you need to look at the domestic market, and not at the external. hi
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 November 2017 19: 37 New
                +3
                Quote: destination
                And about the rest (weapons), you need to look back at the domestic market, and not at the external.

            3. Pirogov
              Pirogov 12 November 2017 19: 31 New
              +3
              Quote: svp67
              With MS-21 - YES. Our market is LITTLE for such a machine.

              But not too small for the ancient Boeing.
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 November 2017 19: 38 New
                +2
                Quote: Pirogov
                But not too small for the ancient Boeing.

                No, because for them it’s only a LITTLE part of the world market
            4. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 12 November 2017 19: 43 New
              +6
              Quote: svp67
              MS-21 - YES. Our market is LITTLE for such a machine.

              The plane must go to the market, there is someone to move wink and the car promises to be worthy if the service is provided
              1. Going
                Going 12 November 2017 21: 45 New
                +6
                There is no other way, you have to push your elbows.
        3. just exp
          just exp 12 November 2017 20: 48 New
          0
          in, MS-21, if it becomes a transporter, will be able to conquer that market due to the influence of the UAE on the warhead.
        4. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 12 November 2017 23: 38 New
          0
          In my opinion you are confusing something. With the Arabs, or for them, the Tiger was developed and not without scandals. But I think that if the Russian Federation has something specific on the topic of 5th generation aircraft, the Arabs will offer Arabs, at an interesting price, then why should they refuse?
      2. just exp
        just exp 12 November 2017 20: 47 New
        +4
        the fact that the Indians who are well-fed does not cancel the fact that, thanks to them, UVZ and Sukhi survived.
        and by the way, thanks to the UAE, the Shell appeared, it was originally a development on their order.
        Moreover, they already wrote about BMP-3 and RPGs (including RPG-32 which was called Hashim emnip)
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 12 November 2017 19: 03 New
      +1
      I hope the rule: “Whoever pays a girl dances her,” in this case will not work!
      1. Fight
        Fight 12 November 2017 19: 04 New
        0
        It always worked and will work!
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 12 November 2017 19: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Fight
          It always worked and will work!

          Just not with Russia! stop
      2. svp67
        svp67 12 November 2017 19: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I hope the rule: “Whoever pays a girl dances her,” in this case will not work!

        There is no hope, but work is necessary. Drafting the contract very carefully and demanding compliance.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 12 November 2017 19: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          There is no hope, but work is necessary. Drafting the contract very carefully and requiring compliance

          But here the "roasted rooster" can make its contribution. yes
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 November 2017 19: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            But here the "roasted rooster" can make its contribution.

            It’s only a pity that “mite” is the MOST small Greek coin ...
    3. opus
      opus 12 November 2017 19: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      Money is theirs

      Money (that we have, that they have-American), fyyuyut - and there is no $, which is not in the hands and in the accounts of US residents.
      Quote: svp67
      ideas are ours

      There are ideas, there is no technology. The machine park (and so on and so on) - where on 70%, and where on 98%, not ours.
      Fiyut- and (and so on)
      =======================
      That is strange. MIC (well, or OPK), the UAE and so is not weak

      Advance Industries Arabia; "Nimr Automotive"; Al Jabsr Land Systems; Al Badi Group: Advance Modular Wickles; "South Technology"; Al Taif, Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technology (formerly Gulf Aircraft Mains Company), Advanced Communication Systems, SNECBAT Engin Technology, DASBAT Aviation, "Advanced Module", "" , Al Badi Group, Sabier Internationale, Abu Dhabi Shipbuilding, Neyval Thorn Refits and Upgrades, Al Marakeb Boyat Manufacturing, Caracal International, Burkan Municipal Systems, Tazazun International Nedimenedlnlzh, Burkan Munities Systems, Tazazun International NED private Russian company "Tsar Cannon" belay )

      As an example:
      Al Dhabi: self-propelled artillery howitzer "Archer" under the Swedish license, 155-mm self-propelled howitzers GCT and self-propelled guns ALT-1 TA under the French, the air defense system 2К12 "Square" and 2K12 "Cube" under the Russian license.

      "С4 Advance Solutions": UR "Talon" (Talon LGR - Laser Guided Rocket) competes with the DAGR (Direct Attack Guided Rocket) missiles manufactured by Lockheed Margnn and UR APKWS U (Advanced Precision kill kill Weapon System II) of the "Bae Systems" and "Northrop- Grumman "



      Al Yah Satellite Communications Company:closed satellite communications systems.

      Threat. Xnumx
      President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko agreed with the authorities of the United Arab Emirates on the supply of weapons.


      This was announced on his Facebook page by the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Verkhovna Rada deputy Anton Gerashchenko.
      According to him, the agreements were reached during the meeting of the Ukrainian leader with the supreme commander of the UAE, Crown Prince of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, Mohammed al-Nahyan. The talks were held in the capital of the Arab state, where Poroshenko arrived to participate in the international arms exhibition IDEX-2015.
      Gerashchenko noted that the volumes of supplies and types of weapons that are planned to be imported are not subject to disclosure.

      “Arabs, unlike Europeans and Americans, are not afraid of Putin’s threats of unleashing a third world war if Ukraine supplies arms and military equipment. In addition, they apparently have their own accounts for Putin for halving the price of oil and global instability that impedes the long-term development of the UAE. So it will be their little revenge, " - wrote an adviser to the Minister of the Interior.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: opus
        C4 Advance Solutions: UR Talon

        License?
        For some reason I thought they were getting them from the USA. And only the launcher on the basis of "Nimra" themselves riveted.
        1. opus
          opus 12 November 2017 20: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          For some reason I thought that they receive them from the USA

          EMA1 Emirates Advanced Investment in May 2008, EAI and the American Rey-theon Corporation signed an agreement on collaborative development, technology transfer and manufacturing 70 mm laser-guided missiles "Talon"
          C4 Advance Solutions accepted the research and development from the side of the Emirate investor.

          The same Burkan Monuments Systems, a joint venture established in 2007 by the UAE companies Tavazun and Al Jaber Trading Estebyaschment, as well as German American Rheinmetall Systems, LLC, is located in the Tavazun industrial zone. The supplier of technology and the necessary equipment is the firm Rheinmetall Munitions Systems, whose share in the joint project is 49% The company is equipped with the most modern and high-tech equipment. At its production facilities, various types of munitions of NATO standards have been launched, including air bombs, artillery shells and cartridges of various calibers for all types of UAE aircraft. Under an agreement with the French company Nekstsr Systems, technology transfer is planned with the aim of producing in the emirates 120-mm ammunition for Leclerc tanks.

          With Italy, an agreement was reached on the joint production of military electronics (electronic warfare equipment, equipment for the Navy, rear, etc.).
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 12 November 2017 19: 29 New
        +9
        orus, listen to you, so we don’t have any nichrome! How did we survive? recourse
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 November 2017 19: 55 New
          +1
          Boeing buys titanium frames from us, and NASA has engines, but here it’s just fyuyut wassat
          1. Fight
            Fight 12 November 2017 20: 03 New
            +1
            And we have them Boeing! negative
            1. hrych
              hrych 12 November 2017 20: 28 New
              +3
              Quote: Fight
              And we have them Boeing!

              questions to EBN, why he killed the Soviet civil aircraft industry. Now our Chief has made Superjet and MC-21, on enemy avionics and engines, but engines and avionics have come up with their own, and the planes are ready. Someone groans, but in fact a brilliant move is also under the control of the Supreme. If you wait for your engines, then only now would prototypes begin to be made. PD-14 is already certified in a series and SM and Jet fly and go for export.
              1. Fight
                Fight 12 November 2017 20: 42 New
                +1
                To the inanimate, what questions can there be? Ms does not fly yet, you can count superjets on fingers. In the regions they fly on pimped and fly!
                Here, the comrade above wrote that profitability is needed, but where to get it if the prices are at the limit on regional routes! .. The report was on a zombie hunter, a low-coster bought a Boeing, and this was presented as an achievement! negative
                1. hrych
                  hrych 12 November 2017 20: 50 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Fight
                  you can count superjets on fingers

                  If you have 150 fingers laughing
                  MS is the first serial ready, the order portfolio for MS-21 is 285 aircraft, of which solid (advanced) contracts are concluded for 185 aircraft. Therefore, not so bad. The main thing is being done and the long-range wide-body with the Chinese were going to do, there is experience, the engines are the same, only 4 pieces
                  Quote: Fight
                  low-coster bought Boeings b

                  And Boeing imports are not bad because in part it is on our components laughing
                  1. Town Hall
                    Town Hall 12 November 2017 20: 52 New
                    +1
                    Quote: hrych
                    The order portfolio for the MS-21 is 285 aircraft, of which solid (advanced) contracts are concluded for 185 aircraft.



                    Can you find out who these "solid customers" are?
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 12 November 2017 21: 02 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      Can you find out who these "solid customers" are?

                      Ilyushin Finance, VEB Leasing, Air Capital Services, Sberbank Leasing, IrAero
                      1. Town Hall
                        Town Hall 12 November 2017 21: 08 New
                        +2
                        Quote: hrych
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        Can you find out who these "solid customers" are?

                        Ilyushin Finance, VEB Leasing, Air Capital Services, Sberbank Leasing, IrAero



                        Doesn’t it bother you on this list? ... EMNIP, the largest "customer", Ilyushin Finance, owned by UAC. That is, to the aircraft manufacturer itself. They themselves order it ....


                        There are no real airlines among the "customers". One of the financial structures of state banks ....
                    2. hrych
                      hrych 12 November 2017 21: 20 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      Nothing confuses on this list? ... some financial structures of state banks ....

                      What's the difference to you? The main thing is paid. And protectionism has not been canceled. We need to learn our market first, and the options of Egypt, Azerbaijan, Malaysia are not bad either. The Tu-160M2 has a strong customer - the Russian Aerospace Forces, will no longer be so what? Superjet is already operated by Mexico, and Ireland, and Thailand, and Kazakhstan, and Armenia, and Indonesia, and Laos. Is it bad? And there was also a sea of ​​criticism, but now, according to the Superjet, all the hayers together shut up.
                      1. Town Hall
                        Town Hall 12 November 2017 21: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: hrych
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        Nothing confuses on this list? ... some financial structures of state banks ....

                        What's the difference to you? The main thing is paid. And protectionism has not been canceled. We need to learn our market first, and the options of Egypt, Azerbaijan, Malaysia are not bad either. The Tu-160M2 has a strong customer - the Russian Aerospace Forces, will no longer be so what? Superjet is already operated by Mexico, and Ireland, and Thailand, and Kazakhstan, and Armenia, and Indonesia, and Laos. Is it bad? And there was also a sea of ​​criticism, but now, according to the Superjet, all the hayers together shut up.




                        It makes no difference to me. I just noticed that the "firm customers" for the state MS-21 are state leasing organizations. And not real airlines.


                        And if the sale of a military aircraft and a civilian is the same for you, it’s better to close the conversation
                    3. hrych
                      hrych 12 November 2017 21: 42 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      "firm customers" for the state MS-21-state leasing organizations

                      This is called to give the planned economy the appearance of a market economy, which GDP did, until now, fooling the enemy laughing
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      And if the sale of a military aircraft and a civilian is the same for you, it’s better to close the conversation

                      It may be seen differently from Italy, but we have the same thing laughing
                  2. Fight
                    Fight 12 November 2017 21: 14 New
                    0
                    According to the newspaper Vedomosti, in 2016, the average flight time of the Sukhoi SuperJet 100 was 3–3,7 hours per day, which is three times lower compared to foreign aircraft operated in Russia. According to the publication, citing its own informed sources, the main operator of the SSJ100 - Aeroflot - half of those in the SSJ100 fleet do not fly into the air, which is why airlines have to change the route network. At the same time, the average flying time of Aeroflot on the SSJ100 is just over 3 hours a day. Here are the super jets! He stuck uphill, so they are afraid to fly on it!
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 12 November 2017 21: 29 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Fight
                      According to the newspaper "Vedomosti"


                      With the Superjet, everything is fine, given that they began to develop in 2003, the first flight was in 2008, and began to operate in 2011. You are looking for cons (maybe this makes it easier for you laughing ), but in fact, taking into account the speed of development and operation - one plus. The problem with spare parts is the place to be, so the plane is new, at least you do not forget laughing Superjet - a breakthrough however good The main thing is invaluable experience for the MS-21
        2. opus
          opus 12 November 2017 20: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          You listen, so we have no fucking nahren! How did we survive?

          Fuck we have, I have for sure. Dig in April. And more.
          And what have the survivors of the machine park of Russia?
          At AAK "PROGRESS" visit:
          In this workshop installed unparalleled Italian in RussiaI am a comprehensive mechanized line for the manufacture of molds and castings of aluminum, magnesium and cast iron-steel.


          The software processing shop of parts of OAO AAK Progress is equipped with CTX 300 Alpha-D machines manufactured by the German company DMG

          well and so on.
          output our product


          Funny
          In India belay I met with specialists from the Perm plant (well, everyone knows the gearbox for MI), equipment (grinding machines) was bought in Genmania (territory) of the former GDR: they (ours) asked to show what equipment these wonderful 5 coordinate grinding machines are made, they were shown them opupel: machines made in UdSSR (early Brezhnev).

          And I have now shipped the brake discs. wink for transport ... from China ....
          I keep bearings about bearings

          / Draw conclusions
      3. poquello
        poquello 12 November 2017 21: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: opus
        There are ideas, there is no technology. The machine park (and so on and so on) - where on 70%, and where on 98%, not ours.
        Fiyut- and (and so on)

        explain to me stupid where the "fute" will come from, the milling cutter will drown from grief due to the lack of a domestic machine?
        1. opus
          opus 12 November 2017 21: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: poquello
          the milling cutter drown from grief for the lack of a domestic machine?

          I do not know your milling machine ..

          The main suppliers of imported machine tools to Russian enterprises according to the association "Stankoinstrument" in 2014 were:
          - Germany (30%); (sanctions)
          - Taiwan (11%); (no sanctions, but licensing restriction)
          - Japan (11%); (sanctions)
          - Switzerland (7%); (sanctions)
          - Italy (7%); (sanctions)
          - USA (6%); (sanctions)
          - Czech Republic (5%). (Sanctions)
          the real current dependence on imports of machine tools and KPO will be about 90%
          A machine, unlike your "milling machine that drowns":
          under GPS (or network location)
          under software updates
          constantly requires consumables, components, tools (even oh hyd. oil-branded)
          NO- them (sanctions, war)
          Quote: opus
          Fiyut- and (and so on)
          scrap metal.
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 November 2017 21: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: opus
            NO- them (sanctions, war)
            Quote: opus
            Fiyut- and (and so on)
            scrap metal.

            storyteller, everything is there
            1. opus
              opus 12 November 2017 21: 41 New
              0
              Quote: poquello
              storyteller, everything is there

              There (on TV) will soon be broadcast: Solovyov, well, ours


              do not miss
              1. poquello
                poquello 12 November 2017 21: 49 New
                +3
                Quote: opus
                There (on TV) will soon be broadcast

                and what will they tell me about the sanctions and lack of GPS? ))))))))))))))))))))))
                This is who manages to use modem communication in the production line))))))))))))))))))))))? No, well, in the accounting and data collection lines, I still understand)))))))))))))))))))
            2. hrych
              hrych 12 November 2017 21: 48 New
              +4
              Quote: poquello
              storyteller

              There again, a bunch of little diagrams, plates and pessimism wassat One colleague cannot understand one thing, that machines do not need to be constantly purchased, only once for the production chain and he (the machine) can work for 90-100 years wassat On the machines, which Stalin purchased during the period of industrialization, ours still do things laughing And the GDP of machines has already bought laughing Plus, about a miracle, on machines, you can do your own machines, that's for sure, like in a fairy tale laughing
              1. poquello
                poquello 12 November 2017 21: 53 New
                +5
                Quote: hrych
                Quote: poquello
                storyteller

                There again, a bunch of little schemes and plates wassat One colleague cannot understand one thing, that machines do not need to be constantly purchased, only once for the production chain and he (the machine) can work for 90-100 years wassat On the machines, which Stalin purchased during the period of industrialization, still ours are still doing things laughing

                yes, but in the plane of components, there’s no problem either - they’re all being driven, there has been a trend for a couple of years - they tried to track the installation location, it ended with the crowding out of brands by the Chinese
                1. hrych
                  hrych 12 November 2017 22: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  it ended with the crowding out of brands by the Chinese

                  And oh, horror, import substitution (Obama's nightmare) wassat
  2. Fight
    Fight 12 November 2017 19: 02 New
    0
    Oh how! As in the United States, they bought so much for 100 billion, as Russia, so production on their territory! ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 12 November 2017 19: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: Fight
      Oh how! As in the United States, they bought so much for 100 billion, as Russia, so production on their territory !.

      You are confusing the Saudi Emirates, these are different states.
      1. Fight
        Fight 12 November 2017 19: 08 New
        0
        Yes that's right hi beguiled!
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 18 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        You confuse with the Saudis Emirates

        Emirates are also very well purchased from the Americans. It’s just that they still have Europe in the first place among suppliers. Well, they are trying to create something themselves, our drones even wanted to buy them somehow. Heavy designed by Ukrainian migrants
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Fight
      As in the United States, they bought so much for 100 billion, as Russia, so production on their territory !.

      They are cooperating with the States in this way, and very actively.
      By the way, the Russian Tiger was designed specifically for their money. True, they, unlike ours, drank it to the mind.

      Well, if it’s about just purchasing, this is also present. For example, the "triad" towers, which the Poles install under the wise guidance of the Finns on the "Patria" for the UAE
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 12 November 2017 19: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        By the way, the Russian Tiger was designed specifically for their money. True, they, unlike ours, drank it to the mind.

        List of improvements from the UAE to the Russian military-industrial complex-233114? Do not be a balabol .. pliz ..
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: dvina71
          List of improvements from the UAE to the Russian military-industrial complex-233114?

          For example, protection against explosions. In fact, at the time we were buying Iveco / Rysey from Italians, the emirates were already finishing developing their analogue, created on the basis of the Tiger project
          By the way, Above SW. "opus" posted a picture. On it is the same "doped Tiger", which is now called "Nimr II" in a three-axis version.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 12 November 2017 19: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            Emirates have already finished developing their counterpart

            I asked for a list of improvements, not the story of the creation of the triaxial Nimra .. Well, where is it?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 12 November 2017 20: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: dvina71
              I asked for a list of improvements.

              Uh ... The fact that the crew became protected from bombings is not an improvement ???????
              Quote: dvina71
              Well, where is he?

              Need a primer?
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 12 November 2017 21: 03 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Uh ... The fact that the crew became protected from bombings is not an improvement ???????

                Ie that's all they finished in the Tiger .. yes? the engine is not worth the other .. isn't it? They didn’t stick the transmission from Alisson .. don’t you, the slipipin case is ok .. not? And so ... how does it look like the blueprints they got?
                This is called not finished, but done on the basis of ... Well, they don’t have enough knowledge to calculate the car .. that’s ours and contracted ..
                Here are the insides of NIMRA ..

                Judging by the video there is only a frame left from the original .. and a silencer in the ground .. this is a subtle hint of off-road patency ..
                And then .. TIGER is already at war ... and where did NIMR distinguish itself?
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 13 November 2017 09: 11 New
                  0
                  Quote: dvina71
                  Ie that's all they finished in the Tiger .. yes?

                  This is a global change that is changing the purpose of the machine. And not "what nonsense" how you try to portray it.

                  Quote: dvina71
                  And then .. TIGER is already at war ...

                  Not particularly successful. They can’t protect the crew, they can overcome the curb.
                  In general, just see how you have to finish the semi-finished craftsmen from the FSB, so that he can minimally meet his purpose:
          2. opus
            opus 12 November 2017 20: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Spade
            The second is now called "Nimr II" in the three-axis version.


            Nimr = Industrial Computer Technologies (FCT) is a subsidiary of GAZ OJSC.
            Quote: dvina71
            I asked for a list of improvements.

            at its base
            Nimr II different osnost and destination


            Among the improvements stated: circular ballistic protection, brought to the level of 3 В6 of the standard STANAG 4569; basic anti-explosion protection for mines weighing up to 6 kg; increased from 320 to 350 l. with. engine power; increased tonnage to 2,5 tonnes. BJG has become the main developer of all components of the Nimr platform, minus the wheels, engine and gearbox. BJG's contribution to the platform includes armor, undercarriage and cardan transmission.






            https://www.nimr.ae/
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 12 November 2017 19: 33 New
        +4
        what is wrong with our tiger?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 November 2017 19: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          what is wrong with our tiger?

          What’s the matter with him?
        2. opus
          opus 12 November 2017 20: 48 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          what is wrong with our tiger?

          no
          Cummins ISBe300 Turbo / ISBe250

          The story of the "Saudi tiger" is generally funny, but typical of today's Russia:

          For the first time, Jordan commissioned a private enterprise registered in the UAE, Bin Jabr Group Ltd or BJG, to develop a multipurpose vehicle, Jordan, represented by a company owned by its king.

          BJG redirected the order to the Russian company Industrial Computer Technologies or PCT, which is a subsidiary of the Gorky Automobile Plant. Debut samples under the name Tiger HMTV, were demonstrated in Abu Dhabi, made success with the customer, but he severed relations with the Russians. After the termination of the contract, both FCT and BJG became the owners of the technical documentation. Prototypes remained in the capital of the UAE, and subsequently passed tests in the desert

          After some time, an enterprise was registered in Jordan, where from the summer of 2005 to the end of 2006, the production of half a thousand armored vehicles with the name Nimr was carried out. They were made in four versions, including with a carrying capacity of 5000 kg and a wheel arrangement of 6x6. The machines produced differ from the prototypes by such characteristics as the Allison LCT 1000 transmission and the MTU 6R 106 engine with 325 hp. There are also differences in body geometry. The basic version was shown at IDEX 2005 in 2005. On it, India became interested in armored cars. A contract was signed with their company Vectra Group for the joint production of Nimr in the territory of this state.


    3. opus
      opus 12 November 2017 20: 37 New
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      Quote: Fight
      Oh how! As in the US, so on 100 billion

      109,7 correction of billions of dollars $ (9,7 watermelons $ do not roll on the road, as you are almost 10% scattered)
      Only this is KSA, not the UAE.
      Quote: svp67
      You confuse with the Saudis Emirates


      the largest arms supply deal in US history
      delivery of missiles, bombs, armored vehicles, THAAD missile defense systems, coastal warships.
  3. Egorovich
    Egorovich 12 November 2017 19: 08 New
    +5
    Yes, for their huge money, but whatever they want. Arabs always open their mouths wide.
    1. Going
      Going 12 November 2017 19: 46 New
      +5
      There, the United States opened its mouth most of all.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 12 November 2017 19: 49 New
        +5
        I meant that the Arabs want everything and as quickly as possible.
        1. Going
          Going 12 November 2017 19: 53 New
          +5
          Arabs want to outsmart themselves from here and the problems.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 November 2017 19: 16 New
    +2
    Well, let's see. If the implementation is as intended, it will be great ...
    1. Going
      Going 12 November 2017 19: 46 New
      +4
      Of course, they are muddy comrades and the United States takes care of them, but why not.
  5. family tree
    family tree 12 November 2017 19: 43 New
    +1
    Here with these comrades, even if they throw gifts, you need as a Jewish Little Red Riding Hood winked
    - Grandma, do not make mine nerves! I voiced, with cabbage, five, with meat, eight! Fso! Will we take it? belay
  6. General70
    General70 12 November 2017 20: 16 New
    +2
    Yes, horseradish bald to these all the Gulf Emirates, and not cooperation in the defense industry. The only thing that these Emirates can offer Russia is only the reproduction of Wahhabi terrorists
  7. iouris
    iouris 12 November 2017 20: 41 New
    +1
    From the point of view of the long-term interests of the USSR, the emirates do not need the military-industrial complex.
  8. Roman 4912
    Roman 4912 12 November 2017 22: 37 New
    +2
    I somehow believe in it
  9. HEATHER
    HEATHER 12 November 2017 22: 51 New
    +1
    jointly develop the fifth-generation Russian-Emirate fighter based on the MiG-29 They didn’t get burned with India? Emirates have always been enemies. Have you come to bow? I can’t believe it. on the joint creation of the liner based on MS-21. Have you done it yourself yet? Something is wrong in the country. To sell the technology of an excellent liner? I understand that we do not have stocks for large-scale production. Boeing and Airbus are not waiting for us. We will try. But no one knows anything about our non-existent aircraft. C-jet .. . A sad machine. We can’t do 600-1000 aircraft a year. If Irkutsk enters 30, it will be a guarantee for us. It’s hard to raise what has been destroyed. Nothing. I hope we can handle it. By the way! Do the Emirates have aviation specialists? Yes, but I didn’t hear so that they build something flying. Clinging to a branch?
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 November 2017 08: 46 New
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    This is a good topic for cooperation ... Islamic country - manufacturer will open new markets for our aircraft. And for civilian products, this is their leasing program for customers. And in military terms, the possibility of completing our military aircraft and helicopters with Western technology.
  11. solovald
    solovald 13 November 2017 10: 16 New
    0
    "... the Russian Federation and the UAE plan to jointly develop a fifth-generation Russian-Emirate fighter ..." what - directly in Vysotsky "... It vaguely reminds me of an Indo -..." -RF is a 5th generation fighter project, the probability of which, like it is not sad, is lower and lower.
  12. Slam
    Slam 13 November 2017 15: 06 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Well. Money is theirs, ideas are ours. Prior to this, the scheme worked, God forbid, what would work now.

    Your optimism does not take into account US sanctions.