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The HRO responded to the proposal to introduce fingerprinting for foreigners

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Dactyloscopy for foreigners at the entrance to the territory of the Russian Federation must be entered on a bilateral basis, this procedure may become mandatory for citizens of those countries in which Russians are also required to undergo, reports RIA News Statement by the head of the Presidential Council on Human Rights (HRC), Mikhail Fedotov.




Earlier, the Deputy Chairman of the Duma Committee for the Development of Civil Society, Dmitry Vyatkin (United Russia), said that the party proposes to introduce fingerprinting for all foreign nationals entering Russia.

Great idea, but only if this procedure is on a bilateral basis. On a bilateral basis, it is possible, on a unilateral - no. That is, this procedure may be mandatory for citizens of those countries in which Russian citizens are also required to undergo fingerprinting,
Fedotov told the agency.

At the same time, the head of the HRO added, it must be remembered that this would require equipping all Russian consulates with fingerprinting equipment, moreover, “appropriate funds should be provided in the budget.”
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  1. destination
    destination 12 November 2017 09: 47 New
    15
    That's right. As people are to you, so are you to people. My Parent always taught me that way ...
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 12 November 2017 09: 51 New
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      I agree, but for Asians I would do a fingerprint, for sure I say! There are a lot of crimes, the hands of this brother are going on ...
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 12 November 2017 10: 00 New
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        Quote: Anarchist
        I agree, but for Asians I would do a fingerprint, for sure I say!

        And I would have implanted the chips .. hehe
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 12 November 2017 10: 41 New
          +6
          Barshchik-M
          And I would have implanted the chips .. hehe
          So, here, it seems, with the kind, pragmatic and expedient intentions of Lucifer about implanting the chip, the road to hell, TOTAL for all people, is being laid!
          1. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 12 November 2017 11: 37 New
            +4
            Quote: Tatiana
            Barshchik-M
            And I would have implanted the chips .. hehe
            So, here, it seems, with the kind, pragmatic and expedient intentions of Lucifer about implanting the chip, the road to hell, TOTAL for all people, is being laid!

            It was predicted a long time ago, they’ll mark all people with the label of Satan .. heh heh .. First the TIN, and then ..
            Specially written I think they will react or not.? Tatyana’s reaction is correct and I agree with you .. hi
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 12 November 2017 13: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
              It has long been predicted that all people will be marked Satan with a mark ..

              but what does electronics and evil spirits have to do with it? belay
              or are otherworldly forces controlling the laws of physics? belay
              scary as much as horror laughing
              1. Barshchik-M
                Barshchik-M 12 November 2017 14: 18 New
                +4
                Quote: LSA57
                but what does electronics and evil spirits have to do with it?

                But the devil knows her ... wink In electronics, sometimes the demon infuses, how many times I noticed ..)))
                Quote: kenig1
                Chipping financing from your pension?))

                I agree, only I will "chip" myself .. ha ha
                And then there are many who want to do this thing ..
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 12 November 2017 16: 50 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
                  But the devil knows her ... Sometimes the demon infuses electronics, how many times I noticed ..)))

                  it happens. my wife when I walked past what I was setting up or setting up, everything had to start all over again. settings flew away at the moment laughing
        2. kenig1
          kenig1 12 November 2017 10: 45 New
          +2
          Chipping financing from your pension?))
      2. hrych
        hrych 12 November 2017 10: 01 New
        17
        Fedotov, the enemy of the people, what else could he say. They say they do not roll back ours, but ours go to them? Roll everyone without exception, the security of the state, and constantly belligerent, above the groans of liberoids.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 12 November 2017 10: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: hrych
          Fedotov, the enemy of the people,

          wow label from 37 years of the last century. and now it’s the 21st century, but someone has stayed there. the case of "pest doctors" do not start?
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 12 November 2017 11: 00 New
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            LSA57 Today, 10:30 ↑ New
            Quote: hrych
            Fedotov, the enemy of the people,

            wow label from 37 years of the last century. and now it’s the 21st century, but someone has stayed there. the case of "pest doctors" do not start?

            As soon as the United States introduced mandatory fingerprinting for all incoming foreigners, they immediately received a mirror response from self-respecting countries to fingerprinting of Americans. Even Brazil, which clearly has no extra money, instantly began to fingerprint US citizens.
            This is the way the world works, if you want to be respected and reckoned with you, be adequate: if you were given a slap in the face, plummet the same instant in return. And if you chew snot and turn the second cheek, then you will receive in full on a regular basis. What we, in fact, now have.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 12 November 2017 11: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              As soon as the United States introduced mandatory fingerprinting for all incoming foreigners, they immediately received a mirror response from self-respecting countries to fingerprinting of Americans.

              Yes, am I against it? but I didn’t write about it request
          2. hrych
            hrych 12 November 2017 11: 07 New
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            the case of "pest doctors" do not start?

            It is inevitable and is already underway, although you have not noticed it yet. Trotsky and the Trotskyists were not immediately liquidated, at first they were expelled, then they were planted, and then they had to shoot one devil. Now they are already planting ...
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 12 November 2017 11: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: hrych
              It is inevitable and is already underway, although you have not noticed it yet. Trotsky and the Trotskyists were not immediately liquidated, at first they were expelled, then they were planted, and then they had to shoot one devil. Now they are already planting ...

              another revolutionEr ... not tired of arranging a revolution already?
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              2. kuznec
                kuznec 12 November 2017 12: 54 New
                +9
                Khrych is not a revolutionary. Stalin in time realized that for the survival of the country, development, not the fire of the world revolution, which by then had drowned, was necessary. So squinted all those who except how to destroy nothing more could. First of all, their party members. So, in this case, grunt is “anti-revolutionary”, one might say, “evolutionary”. Such as Trotsky only knew how to destroy. What do we see now performed by the USA. They all over the world only destroy. The country of victorious Trotskyism on a global scale.
          3. Slovak
            Slovak 12 November 2017 12: 18 New
            +3
            Will I surprise you? In the EU, without exception, they give up their fingers and they are in the chip of the internal document. Tourists, when receiving visas in the EU, give up their fingers. Yes, this is security. It is bad that the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc., will make a feeder out of this again, although the device costs a penny.
      3. 79807420129
        79807420129 12 November 2017 10: 02 New
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        Quote: Anarchist
        I agree, but for Asians

        And for the "bros" with Svidomo, you also need to implant chips in order to know where they are spoiling. And for Asians, too. hi
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 12 November 2017 10: 08 New
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          hi
          Quote: 79807420129
          "Brothers" with Svidomo ... to know where they are crap.

          They mostly burn at home! They are afraid in Russia, because they are deporting, and there they will be taken into the army ...
          In one sentence - Where they live, they shit there! Oink oink oink lol
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 12 November 2017 10: 50 New
          +6
          79807420129
          And for the "bros" with Svidomo, you also need to implant chips in order to know where they are spoiling. And for Asians, too. hi
          "Bro" how do you plan to implant chips without exception? I’m afraid the procedure will not work out completely. For the Russians, they will meet relatives at the border. The implant is implanted into the immodest place despite the rank and position. hi Therefore, it is better to calmly take fingerprints from all visitors to Russia. And you don’t need to pose as offended and introduce only against countries where they require biometrics from Russians. Enter for everyone ..
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 12 November 2017 11: 01 New
            +9
            Quote: Observer2014
            I'm afraid the procedure will not work without exception

            But without exception, only for those who go to Russia, let them understand Europe themselves.
            Quote: Observer2014
            For the Russians will meet relatives at the border

            For heaven’s sake, let them meet and vouch for them, if that I also meet my own and vouch. hi
        3. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 12 November 2017 11: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: 79807420129
          Quote: Anarchist
          I agree, but for Asians

          And for the "bros" with Svidomo, you also need to implant chips in order to know where they are spoiling. And for Asians, too. hi

          For Asians, for starters, you need to enter the entry for passports. As, however, for Ukrainians. Then, at least, it will be clear and understandable who and for what crosses the border - various couriers snooping around seven times a month will be in full view.
      4. LSA57
        LSA57 12 November 2017 10: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Anarchist
        I agree, but for Asians I would do a fingerprint,

        and DNA samples
      5. dauria
        dauria 12 November 2017 11: 18 New
        +1
        but for Asians I would do a fingerprinting,


        And I would be for citizens of the Russian Federation, all without exception. And the beacons. Enti is the most citizens - the main danger to the authorities. Asian what is he? He will sweep the street, rob the hard worker, well, he will slaughter in a fight. So it’s not a banker.
        But try not to feed your young animals, but to under-entertain them. Then the authorities will get in trouble.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 12 November 2017 10: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: destination
      That's right. As people are to you, so are you to people-

      in the people they say so, as he comes around, he will respond
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 12 November 2017 11: 55 New
      +1
      Fingerprinting should be provided for the Chinese, that's for sure. They are all on one face! belay
      1. japs
        japs 12 November 2017 15: 53 New
        +4
        And for the Chinese, we are all on one face. Although this is not true. They are all different ...
    4. stolz
      stolz 12 November 2017 15: 34 New
      +2
      These deputies are sitting in their Duma, they get their salaries like ministers, and instead of dealing with the affairs of the country they think up all kinds of garbage. The introduction of fingerprinting is a typical example of this style of their work.
    5. dSK
      dSK 12 November 2017 19: 48 New
      +3
      The introduction of a visa regime with Ukraine easier. At our pace, deputies will develop a bill on fingerprinting for a year, then six months later customs officers will purchase and install equipment. Two weeks ago at VO, a resident of Ukraine wrote that they have on social networks, they boast of having been on earnings in Russia, how they burned forests and markets.
  2. Kleber
    Kleber 12 November 2017 09: 49 New
    10
    What is the difference between us bilaterally or unilaterally? Need - enter and there is nothing to look west.
    1. Primoos
      Primoos 12 November 2017 09: 54 New
      +3
      I do not like this procedure. But if someone is foolish? Do not let him go?
      1. Kleber
        Kleber 12 November 2017 10: 13 New
        +2
        And with a white as a cow nose into the device))))
      2. KCA
        KCA 12 November 2017 12: 15 New
        +1
        foot prints
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 12 November 2017 09: 52 New
    +6
    To answer with a ban on a ban is a long-standing rule, but ..... What about the terrorist threat? Many countries that do not have this procedure with us and even “allies” are precisely the sources of terrorist threats.
    Of course, this is not a panacea, but if using this procedure it will be possible to cut off a certain percentage of unreliable citizens, then why not?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 12 November 2017 09: 56 New
      +5
      Isn’t this the answer to Ukraine to enter biometrics for Russians?
  4. izya top
    izya top 12 November 2017 09: 53 New
    +5
    FHC figures themselves must also be fingerprinted yes and not only them lol
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 12 November 2017 09: 59 New
      +3
      Yes, half of these figures can be safely not fingerprinted, but immediately concreted.
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 12 November 2017 09: 55 New
    +2
    The HRC gave an answer. And if you think about it, it turns out as always. Fingerprinting can be introduced FIRST, after all, it’s ABOUT AND and and and. And who are we? Only after you.
  6. Dead duck
    Dead duck 12 November 2017 09: 57 New
    10
    Quote: Anarchist
    I agree, but for Asians I would do a fingerprint, for sure I say! There are a lot of crimes, the hands of this brother are going on ...

    Welcome hi
    In fact, there are enough problems from everyone ...
    but changing their passport (at home) and last name, first name is not a problem, and according to the current rules they will have to skip even after violations.
    From the outskirts they have been doing this for a long time.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 November 2017 10: 03 New
    +2
    Why trifle? Chip all entering. wassat In fact, biometrics has been behind the scenes for a long time, image recognition at airports, train stations and even the subway works. Behind the scenes.
    Penetrating into a country from the outside is becoming increasingly difficult. But terrorism "climbs" through the network, and biometrics is not able to look into the souls. Alas...
  8. Nemesis
    Nemesis 12 November 2017 10: 06 New
    +6
    And it’s better to completely restrict entry to the Russian Federation for foreigners, especially from Russophobia patients of the former Soviet Union scoops. Russophobes in Russia does not belong, from them in Russia there is one political tension and banditry.
    1. Star
      Star 12 November 2017 10: 31 New
      +3
      The idea is great, but it will not work.
      There will be no one to be engaged in dumping wages for merchants.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 12 November 2017 10: 33 New
        +2
        It will not pass until these people sit in the Kremlin, wait for others ...
  9. kefan
    kefan 12 November 2017 10: 25 New
    +4
    Pretty belated measure, it had to be done yesterday.
  10. Altona
    Altona 12 November 2017 10: 51 New
    +1
    The Liberal Rights Council again pushed something out of itself. Do not confuse the security of the state with imaginary "human rights." No one will die from running in or scanning fingers.
    PS The Liberal Rights Council has taken care of running in fingers, and the fact that banks want to introduce the use of biometric data, that is, scan your faces, create complete databases, issue passports and driver’s licenses, doesn’t matter at all.
  11. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 12 November 2017 10: 57 New
    +3
    When entering Lithuania from the Kaliningrad region, all Russians shove their finger through the border control window (border control station Panemune). What does the Lithuanian border guard do with this finger, I did not see. I was in Jordan, so there the border guard asks to look at the tourist through a special window that looks like binocular lenses. The scanner takes a picture from the retina of your eye and please come to visit us! Your "passport" is in our computer, no one can fake it. No spread of bacteria from dirty hands to the scanner glass. And they say that Jordan is a country of the past, and in Europe at this time, as being questioned by the NKVD investigator, it’s good that the ink is not used.
  12. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 November 2017 11: 06 New
    +1
    The introduction of fingerprinting - as a priority measure - is not bad. And cancel the deportation. He committed an administrative misconduct - let him work out for improvement for free, and escaped - for heavy forced labor.
  13. ver_
    ver_ 12 November 2017 11: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    Quote: Anarchist
    I agree, but for Asians I would do a fingerprint, for sure I say!

    And I would have implanted the chips .. hehe

    ..together with the ampoule ..
  14. thinker
    thinker 12 November 2017 11: 13 New
    +1
    Entry only with biometric passports, and the whole problem. For this they came up with. request
  15. rudolff
    rudolff 12 November 2017 11: 14 New
    +2
    This fingerprint is like a dead poultice. Russia, this is now a passage yard. A hole with Belarus. With any passport you can buy a ticket to Minsk, then by bus or train, and in a few hours you are already in Russia. Then look for the wind in the field. We have a visa-free regime with the Central Asian republics. Buying a left passport somewhere in Tajikistan is not a problem at all, unless you are a Negro. There is no border with Kazakhstan at all. Kazakhstan does not have with Kyrgyzstan. Kyrgyzstan ... There are problems with the Transcaucasian republics. Visa-free with Ukraine. In short, not a border, but a mess. And what will fingerprinting give? Only additional costs.
  16. tsiwork
    tsiwork 12 November 2017 15: 44 New
    0
    I'm curious, why can fingerprinting be introduced only in response? That is, not when we see the need, but only if someone did it? Why should we be secondary?
    1. tsiwork
      tsiwork 12 November 2017 15: 46 New
      +1
      By the way, why do I have the flag of Ukraine, although I am from Sevastopol? We ourselves do not recognize, it turns out, Crimea Russia? ((((
  17. faterdom
    faterdom 12 November 2017 19: 30 New
    +2
    this procedure may become mandatory for citizens of those countries in which Russians are also required to undergo it

    Enchanting nonsense! This is why we in our country cannot establish the procedures for visiting her that are necessary to ensure security? And does Mr. Fedotov recognize the IG as a state in which there is no such procedure?
  18. polpot
    polpot 12 November 2017 23: 53 New
    0
    In international relations, the concept of reciprocity is one of the most important things, as they say, fingers in exchange for fingers, nothing personal, by the way, with respect to concerts of Ukrainian performers, reciprocity will also not hinder the export of punitive punishments from here.
  19. kig
    kig 13 November 2017 05: 24 New
    0
    State security is more important. But if we introduce selective fingerprinting, then, on the contrary, it will look ugly.
  20. Tektor
    Tektor 13 November 2017 11: 22 New
    0
    A very competent proposal, especially in the light of the arrival of British brawlers.