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Bulgarian Foreign Ministry condemns the desecration of the monument "Alyosha" in Plovdiv

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The Bulgarian Foreign Ministry decided to express its opinion on the desecration of the monument to the Soviet Soldier-Liberator (“Alyosha”) in Plovdiv. Recall that the monument to the Vandals inflicted Nazi symbols and anti-Semitic slogans. In the Russian Foreign Ministry, immediately after the publication of materials about the desecration of one of the symbols of the victory over Nazism during the Second World War, they demanded that the Bulgarian authorities investigate the crime committed by the unknown.


The Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that it condemned the incident with the monument in Plovdiv:
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs strongly condemns another act of vandalism committed against the Alyosha monument in Plovdiv, which used Nazi symbolism and anti-Semitic slogans.

Such manifestations are completely unacceptable and contradict the traditional tolerance and tolerance of the Bulgarian society, as well as the obligations of the EU and international organizations to combat racism, xenophobia and hate crimes.

We hope that the competent authorities will uncover the perpetrators and bring them to justice.


It is noteworthy that the inscriptions on the monument were made in Russian.

Bulgarian Foreign Ministry condemns the desecration of the monument "Alyosha" in Plovdiv


Unfortunately, the desecration of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators for some European countries is almost the norm. Among those countries where monuments are struggling at the state level - for example, Poland.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 11 November 2017 12: 27 New
    22
    The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 11 November 2017 12: 34 New
      17
      Quote: Thrall
      The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.

      and when were the Bulgarians brave? it Russians constantly had to free them hi
      1. 210ox
        210ox 11 November 2017 12: 43 New
        +6
        By the way. And why did he condemn the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and not the Ministry of Internal Affairs ..? For so many years .. And for sure! These are fucking Caucasians .. They can’t be a hooligan, it’s "an expression of their position" .. Gadenysh ..
        Quote: Partyzan
        Quote: Thrall
        The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.

        and when were the Bulgarians brave? it Russians constantly had to free them hi
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 11 November 2017 12: 52 New
          25
          Dmitry, what do we have? Are there no nymphs? Either sausages are fried on the Eternal Flame, then they are pissed on it ... Geeks are everywhere. As far as I know, in socialist Bulgaria no one looked at us askance or grin, unlike the Ukrainian SSR. And politics is a dirty thing.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 11 November 2017 13: 12 New
            +4
            Vyacheslav hi Of course, we also have puzzles. Even in the local authorities. They can easily demolish a monument. But they’re at least struggling with it .. I’ll tell the story of a monument in Smolensk at the Bratskoye cemetery. It is pre-revolutionary and was dedicated to Russian sailors who died from wounds in hospitals in during the Russo-Japanese War. There is no more of it .. It wasn’t demolished by the local liberals, together with the Communists in the 90s. There was a stella, a globe demolished. And the monument was dedicated to those who died in hard labor prisons .. Unfortunately, there are no links .
            Quote: sabakina
            Dmitry, what do we have? Are there no nymphs? Either sausages are fried on the Eternal Flame, then they are pissed on it ... Geeks are everywhere. As far as I know, in socialist Bulgaria no one looked at us askance or grin, unlike the Ukrainian SSR. And politics is a dirty thing.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 11 November 2017 13: 21 New
              +4
              The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria can express its protests on the desecration of the monument "Alyosha" as much as he likes! But, apparently, the Bulgarian youth brought up on textbooks also under the program of Soros - the closest associate and manager of either Rothschild or Rockefeller - for the former national Soviet self-identity of the Bulgarian leadership of Bulgaria has already lost.
              1. Thrall
                Thrall 11 November 2017 13: 48 New
                +4
                Kirkorov tells his children about the monument and the song.
          2. Sergei75
            Sergei75 11 November 2017 14: 44 New
            +9
            I agree completely, in Russia there are still enough idiots, but if you remember, the Bulgarian soldiers, more recently, during the exercises with NATO, refused to shoot at targets that were painted under Russian soldiers.
            Now many countries of the former CMEA have come under the control of Uncle Sam, but many, if not most, of the ordinary people living in these countries are still well disposed towards Russian people and Russia, at least not embittered, and our task now is to express ourselves clearly in our judgments, anywhere - on the forums, in conversation, in personal conversation, that we also treat ordinary citizens of any country well and do not dislike them, this applies to present-day Ukraine and ... Belarus, because the imperialist, both stand and on our sides, need us to be disunited, so it is easier to govern and dominate us. Good and internationalism will help us to join together to build a truly free society.
            If one turned out to be a scoundrel, then you do not need to call everyone a scoundrel, but you must necessarily point out the shortcomings in the correct form, and not bashfully ignore the negative processes.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: Sergei75
              but if you recall, the Bulgarian soldiers, most recently, during the exercises with NATO, refused to shoot at targets that were painted under Russian soldiers.

              Quote: Sergei75
              but if you recall, the Bulgarian soldiers, most recently, during the exercises with NATO, refused to shoot at targets that were painted under Russian soldiers.

              they talk about the same way about their participation in two world wars !!! negative negative negative
          3. pytar
            pytar 12 November 2017 14: 56 New
            +6
            Bulgaria, being the world recorder for the concentration of Russian / Soviet monuments, remains one of the few countries in the world where monuments in honor of Russia / the USSR are still being built and opened! Almost every year, 2-3 new ones open! Some recent examples:
            07.09.2013, in the city of Kazanlak, the world's only monument to Gen. Skobelev was unveiled.

            02.05.2015 Propulsion In the city of Strelcha, a monument to Marshal Zhukov.

            28.02.2017 - 8,5 meter monument to Emperor Alexander II, opened in Svishtov.

            22.08.1917. In Lovech, the monuments to Russian soldiers were restored.

            29.08.2017. In Sofia, a memorial canopy of Gen. Stoletov was opened.

            12.10.2017 g. - In Nova Zagora, a monument in honor of the Russian liberators.

            Here I show an incomplete overview of newly built monuments in Bulgaria. In fact, they are several dozen across the country!
            Where, in what other country of the world is there something similar? Why in the Russian media / and politicians / are silent about this? They are more interested in balabolit about a couple of marginals who go with paint bottles ???
        2. Partyzan
          Partyzan 11 November 2017 12: 56 New
          +5
          they have freedom of speech - however request
          1. 210ox
            210ox 11 November 2017 13: 35 New
            +2
            They have permissiveness and lack of spirituality however ..
            Quote: Partyzan
            they have freedom of speech - however request
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 11 November 2017 14: 31 New
              +4
              Quote: 210ox
              They have permissiveness and lack of spirituality however ..

              as you correctly noticed hi
            2. Sergei75
              Sergei75 12 November 2017 00: 27 New
              +2
              Well, with spirituality now it’s so-so ...
              And anyone can go to Red Square and shout: "Down with Trump!"
              1. Maksim
                Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 56 New
                +2
                Yes, spirituality goes wild everywhere wassat
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        4. faiver
          faiver 11 November 2017 18: 00 New
          +2
          strange question Bulgarian Foreign Ministry condemned this non-political body, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs is investigating
      2. Thrall
        Thrall 11 November 2017 12: 43 New
        +7

        The song is performed by Bulgarian artists Margaret Nikolova and Georgi Kordov.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 11 November 2017 12: 57 New
          +7
          Thrall, not quite in the subject, but, nevertheless, the Slavic Serbs remember us and our affairs.
          1. VALERIK_097
            VALERIK_097 11 November 2017 14: 12 New
            +2
            He took the soul. We probably live by that.
            1. VALERIK_097
              VALERIK_097 11 November 2017 15: 15 New
              +1
              Looking at Murmansk "Alyosha"
          2. MOSKVITYANIN
            MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 15: 31 New
            +2
            sabakina Thrall, not quite the topic, but, nevertheless, the Slavic Serbs remember us and our affairs.

            It's not for long
            Ana Brnabich became the Prime Minister of Serbia. She is the first woman in the post of head of the government of the country and the first politician who openly declares her homosexuality. Experts believe that after her appointment, Belgrade will become even closer to Brussels and move away from Moscow.
            The current Prime Minister received higher education in the United States. In 1998, she graduated from Northwood University in Michigan with a degree in Business Management. Later, Brnabich studied at the British University of Hull, where she received a master's degree. From 2002 to 2011, she worked at the US Agency for International Development. And soon got a job in the American company Continental Wind Serbia, which she headed since January 2013.
            It is the head of the Cabinet of Ministers that defines the domestic policy under the constitution; formally, the president retains only some representative functions in foreign policy issues.
            Vučić himself has repeatedly stated that Serbia's European Union Priority Goal. However one from the conditions of entry into this block were guarantees of the rights of sexual minorities in the country.

            https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2017/06/15_a_10723
            283.shtml # page3
            Forget about the Balkans, for us it could be a territory like a future theater of operations ....
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 11 November 2017 20: 39 New
              +4
              Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
              Forget about the Balkans, for us it could be a territory like a future theater of operations ..
              so what did you want, in the old days they studied at Moscow State University, MGIMO, the Peoples' Friendship Institute ...
              Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
              The current Prime Minister received higher education in the United States. In 1998, she graduated from the University of Northwood, Michigan with a degree in business management. Later, Brnabich studied at the British University of Hull, where she received a master's degree.
              now get influence agents on the other hand, no wonder
        2. Partyzan
          Partyzan 11 November 2017 12: 58 New
          +6
          Quote: Thrall
          The song is performed by Bulgarian artists Margaret Nikolova and Georgi Kordov.

          when it was? now they have other songs request
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 11 November 2017 13: 16 New
            +5
            Volodya, and still you have to believe! Well, in the case of private recall angry .
          2. Maksim
            Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 58 New
            +1
            That’s when you had White Boats and the Leningrad group there wasn’t.
      3. Esoteric
        Esoteric 11 November 2017 12: 44 New
        +4
        Quote: Partyzan
        and when were the Bulgarians brave? it Russians constantly had to free them

        It's time to learn how to draw conclusions. It’s a pity that Russian soldiers died here and around the world. But they will already answer ...
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 11 November 2017 13: 04 New
          +7
          Quote: Esoteric
          It's time to learn how to draw conclusions. It’s a pity that Russian soldiers died here and around the world. But they will already answer ...

          Yes, we made conclusions long ago, but what's the point? Here the authorities must give a specific order to the FSB, let them find and urinate where they catch them, the Jews did not stand on ceremony with the Nazis, so we need to take an example from them.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: Pirogov
            give a specific order to the FSB

            FSB competence is the territory of Russia !!! other structures work on the external circuit !!! bully bully
          2. Maksim
            Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 59 New
            +2
            Yes, yes, let them catch. And then Caliber, Caliber ....
      4. destination
        destination 11 November 2017 12: 54 New
        +5
        The Bulgarians are brave, but not in our direction, damn it ... Brothers, called ...
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 11 November 2017 13: 01 New
          +7
          Quote: destination
          The Bulgarians are brave, but not in our direction, damn it ... Brothers, called ...

          they are bold from behind someone’s wide
          1. Maksim
            Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 00 New
            +2
            ... came from the Belarusian swamp lol
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 09: 22 New
              +3
              Quote: Mac Sim
              came from the Belarusian swamp

              in the Belarusian swamps there are a lot of “courageous” left, and not even anyone is looking for them, but I haven’t heard anything about the Bulgarian ones - they all waved
              1. pytar
                pytar 13 November 2017 09: 53 New
                +3
                in the Belarusian swamps there are a lot of “courageous” left, and not even anyone is looking for them, but I haven’t heard anything about the Bulgarian ones - they all waved

                An interesting logic is "I heard nothing, therefore they are not there!" fool Not everyone in the world has heard of Belorussian swamps, but this does not mean that they are not! bully
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 13 November 2017 11: 41 New
                  +3
                  I didn’t hear what the invaders would be packed there, but many people left reviews about our bolts in their memoirs fool
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 13 November 2017 12: 34 New
                    +3
                    Here the keyword "did not hear" ... smile So listen:
                    “On 6 of March 1941 of the year G. Dimitrov issued a declaration on the need to begin the national liberation struggle against fascism. Between the beginning of June and the end of November of 1941, partisans and underground members carried out 69 operations (armed attacks, sabotage and acts of sabotage); during from the beginning of December of the 1941 of the year to the end of December of the 1942 of the year - 452 operations, during the 1943 of the year - 1606 operations, from the beginning of April to the end of August 1944 of the year - another 1909 operations. Already in the 1941 year for the protection of military cargo, warehouses and railway facilities infrastra On the territory of Bulgaria, the German military command was forced to create a German military railway guard service to protect military facilities and communications, airfields, railway stations and highways, communication lines, as well as places of permanent deployment of German military units in Bulgaria German military command was forced to divert large enough forces (as of June 20 of June 1941, the total number of German troops in Bulgaria was 10 thousand troops, by the beginning of January 1944 of the year, the total number of German troops in Bulgaria was 19,5 thousand troops, and was further further increased. As of 5 On September 1944, there were 30 thousand German troops on the territory of Bulgaria.In addition, in the 1941-1944 years, Bulgarian partisans freed Soviet prisoners of war and Soviet citizens who were hijacked for forced labor from places of detention and echelons of 400 you are in Germany. Intelligence groups transmitted information about the size and location of German troops in Bulgaria, military installations and the socio-political situation in the country. The leaders of these groups were Bulgarian intellectuals and military men friendly to the USSR - Generals Vladimir Zaimov and Nikifor Nikiforov, Alexander Peev (Combat) and Elefter Arnaudov. In total, only from June 1941 to June 1942, 42 thousand people were brought to court for participation in anti-fascist activities. "



                    1. Partyzan
                      Partyzan 13 November 2017 12: 41 New
                      +3
                      I won’t write much
                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Партизанское_движен
                      ie_ in_Belorussia_ at_time_Great_Domestic_to
                      yna
                      From June 1941 to July 1944, partisans of Belarus disabled about 500 thousand soldiers of the occupying forces and puppet formations, officials of the occupation administration, armed colonists and accomplices (125 thousand of them were irretrievable losses), undermined and derailed 11 128 enemy trains and 34 armored trains, defeated 29 railway stations and 948 enemy headquarters and garrisons, blew up, burned and destroyed 819 railway and 4 other bridges, killed more than 710 thousand rails, destroyed over 300 km of telephone and telegraph lines, shot down and burned 7 airplanes at the airfields, knocked down 300 tanks and armored vehicles, destroyed 305 guns of various calibers, blew up and destroyed 1 vehicles, destroyed 355 military depots. For the same period, the partisans of Belarus took the following trophies: guns - 438, mortars - 18, machine guns - 700 939, rifles and machine guns - 85 278. The total irretrievable losses of the Belarusian partisans in 1-874, according to incomplete data, amounted to 20 thousand people [917].
                      here are some such Belarusian swamps hi
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 13 November 2017 14: 02 New
                        +4
                        I know in detail about the struggle of the Belarusians against the fascist occupiers. Mashtaby is certainly incomparable more than in Bulgaria and I do not downplay the merits of the Belarusian people! hi Bulgaria was not a frontier territory. Our confrontation had a different genesis, going back to the 20 years. Left versus right. Bulgarian Agricultural Peoples Union / BZNS / and the Communists / BKP / against the monarchists and patriots from VMRO / Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization /. Moreover, the communists in Bulgaria before 1944 did not have such a significant influence than, for example, the BZNS! The specifics in Bulgaria are different. I won’t write for a long time, otherwise I’ll get a new article. lol
                      2. Maksim
                        Maksim 13 November 2017 17: 53 New
                        +4
                        You can’t be attributed to the Belarusian partisans. I personally knew the sons and grandsons of partisans from Belarus - they are smart guys, worthy heirs of their grandfathers. And I associate you only with a sandpiper from a swamp. Yes, and do not disgrace the "partisan region" with their boorish antics.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 11 November 2017 19: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: destination
          The Bulgarians are brave, but not in our direction, damn it ... Brothers, called ...

          For some reason, everyone decided that this was the work of the Bulgarians. Now in Europe, the Urkain tumbleweed field of several million people dangles, and not of retirement age. Someone earns, and someone craps in any way that is accessible and familiar to them. In their Durkain, they have already destroyed thousands of monuments, and now they have taken up the neighboring territories. I fully admit that this is their doing. Perhaps for the same reason, an official statement was made through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as Foreign citizens are their patrimony.
          1. Maksim
            Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 01 New
            +2
            Very true noted.
      5. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 11 November 2017 13: 00 New
        10
        "... And the heart still hurts, so painful, so painful,
        What is there, in "enlightened" Europe, they have lost their brains forever ...
        It stands over the mountain "Alyosha", "Alyosha"
        Alyosha is defiled and his boots are in the paint ... "
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 11 November 2017 13: 02 New
          +5
          Kostya hi composed himself? respect good
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 11 November 2017 13: 04 New
            +9
            Salut! hi
            Really painful and insulting, for grandfathers and great-grandfathers, who gave their lives ....
            Ungrateful bastard. am
      6. Kleber
        Kleber 11 November 2017 13: 00 New
        +4
        And in gratitude for this, they participated in both world wars against Russia.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 11 November 2017 20: 34 New
          +4
          Quote: Kleber
          they participated in both world wars against Russia.

          well, Russia itself prompted them to do this, since 1913. By the way, the Bulgarians did not fight directly against Russia.
          1. dubovitsckij.viktor
            dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 22: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: verner1967
            Quote: Kleber
            they participated in both world wars against Russia.

            well, Russia itself prompted them to do this, since 1913. By the way, the Bulgarians did not fight directly against Russia.

            Is it a lot of joy that the knife was not stuck for you, but for your wife?
            To fight against an ally, freeing the troops of your enemy, for the war against yourself - these are the affectionate movements of your friend?
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 11 November 2017 22: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
              Fight against an ally, freeing the troops of your enemy

              they did not enter the war for this, and they did not liberate any troops. The Bulgarians only occupied the lands historically belonging to them in Greece and Yugoslavia, and the Germans were forced to keep their units on the territory of Bulgaria. So Bulgaria did not help them much.
              1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 01 New
                +1
                Quote: verner1967
                Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
                Fight against an ally, freeing the troops of your enemy

                they did not enter the war for this, and they did not liberate any troops. The Bulgarians only occupied the lands historically belonging to them in Greece and Yugoslavia, and the Germans were forced to keep their units on the territory of Bulgaria. So Bulgaria did not help them much.

                What nonsense is this? Only what belongs to the PRESENT can belong. Otherwise, you will have to give most of Russia, because, once, someone belonged to something. And such a “RETURN” will never end. The depth of historical “returns” will be extended to the time of the dinosaurs.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 12 November 2017 19: 31 New
                  +2
                  Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
                  What nonsense is this?

                  Read about the Balkan wars and the history of Bulgaria, then write your conclusions.
            2. Maksim
              Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 42 New
              +3
              Choose your wives better. SW Werner at least correctly noted that not everything is so simple.
      7. Lelek
        Lelek 11 November 2017 17: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Partyzan
        it Russians constantly had to free them


        Hey. Unfortunately, mercantile interests prevail among the Bulgarian leadership, while NATO and the EU pay for these interests. At the same time, the people of the memory of the two Russian salvation of the Bulgarian nation from destruction is still alive and manifests itself. So today's Bulgaria dangles like a flower in an ice-hole from edge to edge.
        1. pytar
          pytar 11 November 2017 18: 49 New
          +9
          In Bulgaria, there is a confrontation between the forces that enter for different development paths further. All visible events of the type - statements by politicians in one direction or another, painting a monument or building a new one in honor of Russia / have already been built by 7-8, and we are designing a few more at the moment /, there are external signs of processes originating from within the society. According to all opinion polls, the Bulgarians are pro-Russian, which makes NATO's position in this Balkan country precarious. Corresponding Western services forced to step up their activities ... I suspect that provocations of various kinds will occur more and more often. Bulgarian comments on the forums will also be met constantly. no
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 11 November 2017 19: 33 New
            +3
            Quote: pytar
            pytar


            Hey. I realized that you are Bulgarian. Unfortunately, the ruling circles of your country are imprisoned for confrontation with my country with the tacit consent of the bulk of the population. Bulgaria, associating with NATO, provided its territory under the bridgehead for NATO structures and subordinated its army to NATO command. In short, Bulgaria stepped on the same rake as before the start of World War II. But Russia does not intend to step on the same rake and will not save the "brothers" next time. I wish you well and prosperity.
            1. pytar
              pytar 11 November 2017 19: 41 New
              10
              Hello! Yes. I am Bulgarian. Unfortunately, Russia is now reaping the fruits of its departure from the Balkans from the 90. I don't want to get into disputes. I’d better give you a link to a video from one of the best experts on the Balkans, Gen. Leonid Reshetnikov, who until recently was Director of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies under the President of the Russian Federation - RISI.

              And all the propaganda that pours has the goal of making us enemies. Will you personally participate in this ???
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 11 November 2017 19: 54 New
                +5
                Quote: pytar
                Will you personally participate in this ???


                If you behave as during the Second World War, fighting in the ranks of the Nazis, then YES. Today you (Bulgaria) made your conscious choice, and we are not a nanny to wipe your noses. We survived the troubled times, survived and reborn, but you did not, caved in under our enemies. You even arranged a gas majeure for you and for us in favor of the South Stream archive of archives suitable for you for you to please Washington. Whoever cheated once - forgive, who repeated the cheating - no. Then decide your fate yourself.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 11 November 2017 20: 29 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Lelek
                  If you behave as during the Second World War, fighting in the ranks of the Nazis,

                  they did not fight us in the ranks of the Nazis
                  Quote: Lelek
                  We survived the troubled times, survived and reborn, but you did not, caved in under our enemies.

                  in these troubled times, the EBN, together with the Minister of Foreign Affairs, who "has no head but has an empty skull box", betrayed all the allies, including Bulgaria, so what is now the demand from the Bulgarians, especially since it is the choice of their ruling elite, not the people.
                  1. badens1111
                    badens1111 11 November 2017 20: 39 New
                    +3
                    Quote: verner1967
                    nor fought with us in the ranks of the Nazis

                    Are you intentional or not, but you forget about the "Valiant" Bulgarian Fascist Legion, who fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army. I know and communicate with many veterans of old age who fought in this fascist legion (now it is renamed to the more harmonious "Bulgarian Democratic Forum"). The veterans proudly tell me that thanks to the Bulgarian Army, which held Yugoslavia, Macedonia and Greece under occupation, it was possible to free several German divisions that were immediately transferred to the Eastern Front to help the choked German offensive.
                    Bulgarian Legion (Volunteer Corps) SS (Armored Fighter Legia, Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS / bulgarische No. 1, since 1945 - SS Panzer-zestrores Brigade / bulgarische No. 1)
                    Formed in 1944 at the Dollersheim training center in the amount of 883 people, including 25 officers, 56 podofitsery, 600 lower ranks and 12 nurses.
                    Armament: 50-mm mortars, MG-34 machine guns, MP-40 submachine guns, Mauser carbines, Parabellum, Long Browning and Walter pistols, as well as uniform knives of the Brannik nationalist organization.
                    In April 1945 it became part of the II SS Panzer Corps.
                    On May 7, near the city of Horn, the legionnaires joined the Austrian Volkssturm unit from the 12th mobilization corps, whose units continued to resist in the western regions of Austria until May 10. On the same day, the Legion occupied Weissgarton Castle. May 3 at the village of Trgove-Sweeney surrendered to the 250rd US Army - XNUMX people. Before the surrender, the legionnaires burned their banner.
                    The personnel were held in the prison camp of Bad Ilil (Austria) until 1946.
                    To the honor of the Bulgarians ... there was Colonel Yordan Ivanov, who fought as part of the guard volunteer squad (battalion), which operated on the northwestern border of Bulgaria. After the volunteers ousted the fascist troops from the border city of Kula, they returned to the city of Vidin, to rest and re-form. But they didn’t have to rest long - we listen to Colonel Yordan Ivanov - the record was made in March 1968: “... Time was then restless. We were on the alert, looking forward to when again it would be possible to move on the retreating enemy. Red soldiers from parts of the Third Ukrainian Front passed through the city. We escorted them almost with envy - our time to move to the front has not yet come. Soviet troops advanced on the territory of Serbia in two directions - on Negotin and on Zaichar. Soon news of their military successes reached us. But at the same time, a dangerous situation was created - at the junction between these two areas there were no units of the Soviet army. There was a danger of a breakthrough of the Nazis in the rear of the advancing Red Army. The Soviet command set our guards squad the task of taking positions at the junction between the advancing units of the Third Ukrainian Front. The partisans of the detachment named after him voluntarily joined the squad. Georgi Benkovsky, as well as other guardsmen who had already participated in battles with the enemy on the western border.
                    However.
                    Indeed, Bulgaria was an ally of the Third Reich, indeed, Bulgarian troops took part in the aggression against Yugoslavia and Greece, indeed Bulgaria was at war with Great Britain and the United States, and Bulgarian air defense did not miss the chance to bring down the American "flying fortresses" returning after the bombing of the oil fields in Ploiesti ( Romania) through the Bulgarian airspace.
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 11 November 2017 22: 03 New
                      +4
                      Quote: badens1111
                      "The Bulgarian Fascist Legion, who fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army. ... thanks to the Bulgarian Army, which kept Yugoslavia, Macedonia and Greece under occupation, it was possible to free several German divisions,

                      It must be able to fool At first he stated that the Bulgarians fought against the Red Army and immediately indicated that there were no Bulgarians on the territory of the USSR.
                      1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                        dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 22: 19 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Svateev
                        Quote: badens1111
                        "The Bulgarian Fascist Legion, who fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army. ... thanks to the Bulgarian Army, which kept Yugoslavia, Macedonia and Greece under occupation, it was possible to free several German divisions,

                        It must be able to fool At first he stated that the Bulgarians fought against the Red Army and immediately indicated that there were no Bulgarians on the territory of the USSR.

                        But is it really impossible to fight against the USSR without being on its territory? The Bulgarians sunk 3 of our submarines.
                        In fact, in 1941 the Black Sea Fleet lost 8 submarines (one due to an accident off its coast), but not one of them was destroyed by aircraft. In Bulgarian waters they perished; November 12, at Cape Emine, a S-34 was blown up by a mine; On November 16, at M. Shabler the same fate befell Sch-211; On December 6, Bulgarian patrol ships sank Sch-204 near Varna.

                        http://www.tinlib.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacij
                        a_i_vremja_2001_01 / p6.php
                      2. badens1111
                        badens1111 11 November 2017 22: 37 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Svateev
                        It must be able to

                        Distort what has been said and pile on the dirt .. you cannot refuse this skill. [Quote = badens1111 To the honor of the Bulgarians .. was Colonel Yordan Ivanov, who fought as part of the guards volunteer squad (battalion), which operated on the northwestern border of Bulgaria. After the volunteers ousted the fascist troops from the border city of Kula, they returned to the city of Vidin, to rest and [/ quote]
                      3. Maksim
                        Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 46 New
                        +4
                        It is necessary, except how to be able to read and understand what is written. T. called Armor-destroying legia, etc. It has nothing to do with the Bulgarian army. All the same, to declare the ROA a Soviet union once Soviet citizens served in it.
                    2. pytar
                      pytar 11 November 2017 22: 07 New
                      +7
                      You are SPECIALLY speculating with facts! stop Since the clarity of the existence of the so-called Bg legion SS (Armored Slayer Legia, Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS / bulgarische #1 no, let's see what the wiki writes about it! Although it is unreliable as information, very little is known about this topic.
                      "After that, like on xnumx Bulgaria went over to the side of the anti-Hitler coalition ... inBulgaria’s Oysk began fighting against the Germans, The Supreme Reich Third Party decided to use the remaining Bulgarians. "
                      "Created 16.09.1944 in Vienna “Bulgaria's NP in exile” announced the creation of a “BOK” under the command of a regiment. Ivan Rogozarov and called all the Bulgarians in the age from 17 to 55 years, living in Germany, Italy, Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia recorded by volunteers. "
                      "" The creation of the Bulgarian military unit ... took place in the SS training camp ... in Dollersheim (Austria). By the beginning of January 1945, 25 officers, 56 sergeants and about 500 soldiers of the Bulgarian army arrived at the camp. The last ... Germans recruited among Bulgarian prisoners of war.
                      "In the future .... replenished at the expense of Bulgarian students studying in German educational institutions (... they were deprived of breadcards and faced with a choice: either sign up for military service ...). Total Unit replenished 150 studentsand studying at the universities of the Reich ...of which 12 girls, students Medical University of Vienna. "
                      "... the number of people serving in the legion of Bulgarians is estimated from 500 — 600 to 800 people, while some of the candidates defectedwithout waiting for the end of training and sending to the front. "
                      How eta an incomprehensible group of confused people staggered along the roads of Austria, “fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army” is not known for certain. At the end of the war not a single Bulgarian was captured by the USSR, even though there were almost no prisoners from all over the world ...
                      At the same time, 3 Bulgarian armies, half a million soldiers fought on the side of the spacecraft against the Wehrmacht! So fought so that with their own losses 32 thousand. managed to destroy 78-80 thousand. Germans! 360 soldiers and officers of the BGA were awarded Soviet orders, 120 of thousands of servicemen - with the medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of the 1941 — 1945 years." Look for info how many such salutes were there during the whole war? Commander-in-Chief of the 3-BGA, Gen. V. Stoychev took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square in 1. There he is right in the ranks of the III-Ukrainian Front!

                      You are silent about everything! And why then you can’t say about those 1 500 000 Soviet citizens who voluntarily or involuntarily fought in the ROA and other colaborationist formations of the German army? From half a million Bulgarian soldiers, 500-700 people crossed over to the Germans. What is - 0,12%! In the Soviet army of the 29 570 000 mobilized, 1 500 000 went to the Wehrmacht. Or - 5,07%! What other claims to the Bulgarians do you think of? fellow

                      The descendants of those hundreds of thousands of Bulgarian soldiers who fought against Nazi Germany are now guarding Soviet monuments in Bulgaria! And if necessary they will stand like a human shield! soldier
                      1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                        dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 22: 31 New
                        +2
                        Quote: pytar
                        You are SPECIALLY speculating with facts! stop Since the clarity of the existence of the so-called Bg legion SS (Armored Slayer Legia, Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS / bulgarische #1 no, let's see what the wiki writes about it! Although it is unreliable as information, very little is known about this topic.
                        "After that, like on xnumx Bulgaria went over to the side of the anti-Hitler coalition ... inBulgaria’s Oysk began fighting against the Germans, The Supreme Reich Third Party decided to use the remaining Bulgarians. "
                        "Created 16.09.1944 in Vienna “Bulgaria's NP in exile” announced the creation of a “BOK” under the command of a regiment. Ivan Rogozarov and called all the Bulgarians in the age from 17 to 55 years, living in Germany, Italy, Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia recorded by volunteers. "
                        "" The creation of the Bulgarian military unit ... took place in the SS training camp ... in Dollersheim (Austria). By the beginning of January 1945, 25 officers, 56 sergeants and about 500 soldiers of the Bulgarian army arrived at the camp. The last ... Germans recruited among Bulgarian prisoners of war.
                        "In the future .... replenished at the expense of Bulgarian students studying in German educational institutions (... they were deprived of breadcards and faced with a choice: either sign up for military service ...). Total Unit replenished 150 studentsand studying at the universities of the Reich ...of which 12 girls, students Medical University of Vienna. "
                        "... the number of people serving in the legion of Bulgarians is estimated from 500 — 600 to 800 people, while some of the candidates defectedwithout waiting for the end of training and sending to the front. "
                        How eta an incomprehensible group of confused people staggered along the roads of Austria, “fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army” is not known for certain. At the end of the war not a single Bulgarian was captured by the USSR, even though there were almost no prisoners from all over the world ...
                        At the same time, 3 Bulgarian armies, half a million soldiers fought on the side of the spacecraft against the Wehrmacht! So fought so that with their own losses 32 thousand. managed to destroy 78-80 thousand. Germans! 360 soldiers and officers of the BGA were awarded Soviet orders, 120 of thousands of servicemen - with the medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of the 1941 — 1945 years." Look for info how many such salutes were there during the whole war? Commander-in-Chief of the 3-BGA, Gen. V. Stoychev took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square in 1. There he is right in the ranks of the III-Ukrainian Front!

                        You are silent about everything! And why then you can’t say about those 1 500 000 Soviet citizens who voluntarily or involuntarily fought in the ROA and other colaborationist formations of the German army? From half a million Bulgarian soldiers, 500-700 people crossed over to the Germans. What is - 0,12%! In the Soviet army of the 29 570 000 mobilized, 1 500 000 went to the Wehrmacht. Or - 5,07%! What other claims to the Bulgarians do you think of? fellow

                        The descendants of those hundreds of thousands of Bulgarian soldiers who fought against Nazi Germany are now guarding Soviet monuments in Bulgaria! And if necessary they will stand like a human shield! soldier

                        Still would! The "loyalty" of the Bulgarians to their allies is well known. They would try to move a finger AGAINST the Soviet troops in 1944. Fighting against the Yugoslav partisans, you liberated German troops. which were directed to the Eastern Front.
                        "Fidelity" is proved today. At least in relation to the "Turkish stream". At least the end of the construction of a nuclear power plant, in which we have a lot of money.
                      2. Svateev
                        Svateev 11 November 2017 22: 37 New
                        +2
                        Quote: pytar
                        At the same time, 3 Bulgarian army, half a million soldiers fought on the side of the SC against the Wehrmacht! So fought so that with their own losses 32 thousand. managed to destroy 78-80 thousand. Germans! 360 soldiers and officers of the BGA were awarded Soviet orders, 120 of thousands of servicemen - with the medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of the 1941 — 1945 years." Look for info how many such salutes were there during the whole war? Commander-in-Chief of the 3-BGA, Gen. V. Stoychev took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square in 1. There he is right in the ranks of the III-Ukrainian Front!

                        Thank you brother, recalled! And then all evil spirits climbed here on the site ...
                      3. badens1111
                        badens1111 11 November 2017 22: 40 New
                        +2
                        Quote: pytar
                        The descendants of those hundreds of thousands of Bulgarian soldiers who fought against Nazi Germany are now guarding Soviet monuments in Bulgaria! And if necessary they will stand like a human shield!

                        This is not refuted.
                        Now the question is who, what forces in Bulgaria always spit on Alyosha’s monument, if not those whom I have spoken about: Bulgarian Legion (volunteer corps) SS (Armored Destruction Legia, Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS / bulgarische No. 1, since 1945 - SS Panzer-zestrores Brigade / bulgarische No. 1)
                        Formed in 1944 at the Dollersheim training center in the amount of 883 people, including 25 officers, 56 podofitsery, 600 lower ranks and 12 nurses.
                        Armament: 50-mm mortars, MG-34 machine guns, MP-40 submachine guns, Mauser carbines, Parabellum, Long Browning and Walter pistols, as well as uniform knives of the Brannik nationalist organization.
                        In April 1945 it became part of the II SS Panzer Corps.
                        On May 7, near the city of Horn, the legionnaires joined the Austrian Volkssturm unit from the 12th mobilization corps, whose units continued to resist in the western regions of Austria until May 10. On the same day, the Legion occupied Weissgarton Castle. May 3 at the village of Trgove-Sweeney surrendered to the 250rd US Army - XNUMX people. Before the surrender, the legionnaires burned their banner.
                        There is a difference?
                    3. verner1967
                      verner1967 11 November 2017 22: 34 New
                      +1
                      Quote: badens1111
                      Are you intentional or not, but you forget about the "Valiant" Bulgarian Fascist Legion, who fought on the Eastern Front against the Red Army.

                      Quote: badens1111
                      Formed in 1944 at the Dollersheim training center in the amount of 883 people, including 25 officers, 56 podofitsery, 600 lower ranks and 12 nurses.

                      Well, yes, agro-silisha from more than the five millionth population of Bulgaria. Our compatriots who served in combat units under the command of the Wehrmacht were incomparably greater.
                      Quote: badens1111
                      On May 7, near the city of Horn, the legionnaires joined the Austrian Volkssturm unit from the 12th mobilization corps, whose units continued to resist in the western regions of Austria until May XNUMX.
                      The allies liberated Western Austria, so when did the Bulgarians manage to fight against the spacecraft? Have you started singing to the State Department? For money or for beliefs? Your acquaintances are strange, strange, to say the least
                      Quote: badens1111
                      I know and communicate with many elderly veterans who fought in this fascist legion
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                  2. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 22 New
                    +5
                    Quote: verner1967
                    they did not fight us in the ranks of the Nazis

                    great achievement!!! wassat wassat Hitler, too, personally did not fight against us !!! negative negative negative
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 11 November 2017 22: 39 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek
                      Hitler, too, personally did not fight against us !!!

                      But Stalin did not fight against Germany, or what? !!! Quite fool
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 46 New
                        +6
                        I'm talking about stopping fairy tales about the fact that the Bulgarians did not fight against the USSR ... they were part of the "fascist coalition" and that’s the point ... this is enough to not accept any excuse !!!! negative negative negative
                    2. badens1111
                      badens1111 11 November 2017 22: 42 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek

                      Plus to you ... you got it right.
                2. pytar
                  pytar 11 November 2017 20: 36 New
                  +6
                  If you behave as during the Second World War, fighting in the ranks of the Nazis ...

                  Sorry, but obviously didn’t watch the video. wink It just says that the Bulgarians did not fight against the USSR.
                  I don’t want to offend you, but ... You don’t know anything about the real situation with UP. Icy. Leave these questions for children. They are for another topic.
                  Then decide your fate yourself.

                  I will say it differently: LET EVERY PEOPLE DECIDE HIS DESTINY HIMSELF WITHOUT EXTERNAL PRESS AND INFLUENCE! Then everything will be fine and all peoples will live in peace and discrimination! good
                  1. Lelek
                    Lelek 11 November 2017 20: 47 New
                    +2
                    Quote: pytar
                    I will say it differently: LET EVERY PEOPLE DECIDE HIS DESTINY HIMSELF WITHOUT EXTERNAL PRESS AND INFLUENCE! Then everything will be fine and all peoples will live in peace and discrimination!


                    To work in convoys among the Nazis is also to serve in the army of the enemy. Now you are also on the other side of the confrontation. But really, let's not talk about that. But under the last part of your repost I subscribe to all "100". hi
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 11 November 2017 22: 19 New
                      +3
                      To work in convoys among the Nazis - is also to serve in the army of the enemy

                      When Bulgaria entered FORCE into the Hitlerite Pact, the USSR and Germany of the 2 of the year both had a non-aggression pact. We had nowhere to go between the invincible hovering over the Danube until the time of the German division with 600 thousand. soldier and 500 thousandth Turkish group standing on our southern border! Then we had only 100 thousand. with outdated weapons and munitions in warehouses as for short firing at training grounds.
                      The only opposing enemy of Germany at that time was Great Britain, which itself was in a critical position. If Bulgaria in the 41 would refuse to enter the GP, then it would still be occupied, at the same time, the Germans and Turks. The subsequent fate of the 5,5 millionth Bulgarian people with such a development, I do not want to imagine. Moreover, Turkey would be guaranteed to enter into an alliance with Germany, and then the position of the USSR would become much more complicated. The topic is outside the one that we are discussing, but it is worth thinking about it when you throw some reproaches ... I wish you all the best! hi
                      1. badens1111
                        badens1111 11 November 2017 22: 25 New
                        +3
                        Quote: pytar
                        When is Bulgaria

                        It is time for you to understand ... your elite, since the last Russian-Turkish war, which gave you independence, is GERMAN, and by virtue of this., Always regardless of the people and their mood, you will be forced to be anti-Russian.
                  2. dubovitsckij.viktor
                    dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 22: 33 New
                    +3
                    Quote: pytar
                    If you behave as during the Second World War, fighting in the ranks of the Nazis ...

                    Sorry, but obviously didn’t watch the video. wink It just says that the Bulgarians did not fight against the USSR.
                    I don’t want to offend you, but ... You don’t know anything about the real situation with UP. Icy. Leave these questions for children. They are for another topic.
                    Then decide your fate yourself.

                    I will say it differently: LET EVERY PEOPLE DECIDE HIS DESTINY HIMSELF WITHOUT EXTERNAL PRESS AND INFLUENCE! Then everything will be fine and all peoples will live in peace and discrimination! good

                    That's it. Not only without pressure, but without help in case of misfortune. Get out yourself. Somehow we can do without your tomatoes.
                    1. Maksim
                      Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 13 New
                      +2
                      Three times ha. The hedgehog was scared ... by tomato taking. Let's leave for our shop salad. And there you are sewing grouse ... and further along Mayakovsky.
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              2. kubanec
                kubanec 11 November 2017 20: 03 New
                +7
                Good evening Boyan! Thank you for not being tired of proving that the Russians and Bulgarians are brothers! that’s all right, all these are provocations with monuments specially that they would embroil us and this, in my opinion, is not done by Bulgarians, but by our “brothers” Ukrainians. May God grant you patience and health!
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 11 November 2017 20: 40 New
                  +1
                  Quote: kubanec
                  Russians and Bulgarians brothers!

                  Yes .. but not the rulers of Bulgaria, before the Soviet era and after.
                2. pytar
                  pytar 11 November 2017 20: 47 New
                  +8
                  Good evening Kubanets! Thank! hi Not tired, as I say the TRUTH! Russians and Bulgarians brothers! As I look at this barrage of Bulgarian-phobic statements on the forums, it immediately becomes apparent - everything is happening in a coordinated way! Someone makes a provocation in Bulgaria / make an inscription on the monument, the case for 3 min. / And the "carbon copy" starts to work - "Bulgarians / all the people / xxxxx ..."
                  I don’t know who is involved with this, but I know who is to the detriment and who benefits when the brother and brother quarrel! sad
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 32 New
                    +4
                    Quote: pytar
                    As I look at this barrage of Bulgarian-phobic statements on the forums, it immediately becomes apparent - everything is happening in a coordinated way!

                    you underestimate the Russian people .... looking at everything coming from "you", we can be disgusted without any coordination !!! wink yes wassat laughing laughing laughing
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 13 November 2017 10: 49 New
                      +4
                      you underestimate the Russian people .... looking at everything coming from "you", we may be disgusted without any coordination!

                      "you" are NOT the Russian people! looking at what nasty things you write, I strongly doubt that you are Russian! no
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 15: 25 New
                        +3
                        Quote: pytar
                        you underestimate the Russian people .... looking at everything coming from "you", we may be disgusted without any coordination!

                        "you" are NOT the Russian people! looking at what nasty things you write, I strongly doubt that you are Russian! no

                        and where did I write nasty things about Russia ?? what what laughing laughing
                  2. badens1111
                    badens1111 11 November 2017 22: 45 New
                    +3
                    Quote: pytar
                    I don’t know who is involved with this, but I know who is to the detriment and who benefits when the brother and brother quarrel!

                    Change power in Bulgaria.
                    This is the only way out if you do not want your people, the West, as an infantry for slaughter, not to kick against Russia.
                  3. zoolu350
                    zoolu350 12 November 2017 15: 14 New
                    +1
                    Here, without monuments, it’s clear what kind of “brother” you are. Already 3 times in the 20th century, you find yourself in the ranks of our enemies, therefore the hands controlling the missiles carrying the UBC on Sofia, Varna and Plovdiv should not tremble, the shoes will no longer work in the air.
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            2. niksan2002
              niksan2002 12 November 2017 16: 48 New
              +2
              I think differently. We will save and help, as we helped earlier. They are brothers to us, like Serbs, Ukrainians, Belarusians. Historically, we have converged, but we always remain fraternal peoples.
              1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 06 New
                +2
                Quote: niksan2002
                I think differently. We will save and help, as we helped earlier. They are brothers to us, like Serbs, Ukrainians, Belarusians. Historically, we have converged, but we always remain fraternal peoples.

                I think that much more thinking citizens of Russia think differently.
              2. zoolu350
                zoolu350 13 November 2017 01: 28 New
                0
                And how many more millions of Russian people should die due to the actions of these "brothers"? With your little British flag, I understand that the more the merrier. But now I think that you have to pay for betrayal and treason, the law of conservation of energy is such, and so the "brothers" will receive for all past betrayals at the same time.
          2. dubovitsckij.viktor
            dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 22: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: pytar
            In Bulgaria, there is a confrontation between the forces that enter for different development paths further. All visible events of the type - statements by politicians in one direction or another, painting a monument or building a new one in honor of Russia / have already been built by 7-8, and we are designing a few more at the moment /, there are external signs of processes originating from within the society. According to all opinion polls, the Bulgarians are pro-Russian, which makes NATO's position in this Balkan country precarious. Corresponding Western services forced to step up their activities ... I suspect that provocations of various kinds will occur more and more often. Bulgarian comments on the forums will also be met constantly. no

            If you have not decided there for hundreds of years who is your friend and who is the enemy, then this is called ..... (write down this definition yourself).
            1. nedgen
              nedgen 11 November 2017 23: 56 New
              +4
              Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor

              If you have not decided there for hundreds of years who is your friend and who is the enemy, then this is called ..... (write down this definition yourself).


              We have decided. 82% of Bulgarians are Russophiles. Even more than the Russians themselves laughing
              And here you are the "respected" dense Bulgarianophobe. And thanks to people like you, RI and modern Russia betrayed us at least 6 times, and the last time even in your memory it happened and it is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL because (RI, the USSR, Russia) are big and Bulgaria is small. Well, continue in this spirit and VERY soon and Serbs will be written as traitors and the whole world to boot. hi
              1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 17: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: nedgen
                Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor

                If you have not decided there for hundreds of years who is your friend and who is the enemy, then this is called ..... (write down this definition yourself).


                We have decided. 82% of Bulgarians are Russophiles. Even more than the Russians themselves laughing
                And here you are the "respected" dense Bulgarianophobe. And thanks to people like you, RI and modern Russia betrayed us at least 6 times, and the last time even in your memory it happened and it is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL because (RI, the USSR, Russia) are big and Bulgaria is small. Well, continue in this spirit and VERY soon and Serbs will be written as traitors and the whole world to boot. hi

                List here. How much, when, for what reason.
              2. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 08 New
                +1
                Quote: nedgen
                Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor

                If you have not decided there for hundreds of years who is your friend and who is the enemy, then this is called ..... (write down this definition yourself).


                We have decided. 82% of Bulgarians are Russophiles. Even more than the Russians themselves laughing
                And here you are the "respected" dense Bulgarianophobe. And thanks to people like you, RI and modern Russia betrayed us at least 6 times, and the last time even in your memory it happened and it is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL because (RI, the USSR, Russia) are big and Bulgaria is small. Well, continue in this spirit and VERY soon and Serbs will be written as traitors and the whole world to boot. hi

                Did Serbs also gather in NATO? If I am mistaken, I am ready to ask for forgiveness. But if this happens, another goal will appear on the maps of the General Staff of Russia.
            2. niksan2002
              niksan2002 12 November 2017 16: 52 New
              +2
              People do not decide, politicians decide, but people know who is who and history has shown.
            3. pytar
              pytar 13 November 2017 10: 52 New
              +4
              If you have not decided there for hundreds of years who is your friend and who is the enemy, then this is called ..... (write down this definition yourself).

              In Russia, friends and enemies in history often changed their places! After all, politics is guided by INTERESTS!
      8. Victorio
        Victorio 11 November 2017 18: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: Partyzan
        Quote: Thrall
        The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.

        and when the Bulgarians were brave? it Russians constantly had to free them hi

        ===
        even before the conquest of the Turks, they fought well with Byzantium
        1. pytar
          pytar 13 November 2017 11: 02 New
          +4
          even before the conquest of the Turks, they fought well with Byzantium

          It is a fact! Otherwise, they would not have been able to create their own state on the territory of one of the strongest Empire in the Middle Ages! Under Tsar Simeon I / the period was called the “Golden Age of Bulgarian Culture and Writing” /, Bulgaria occupied 80% of the Balkan Peninsula. It also included the territories of all of modern Romania, Moldova, Hungary to the Danube, part of Moravia, and even the current Odesa region. Bulgaria bordered and rivaled the Byzantine and Frankish empires! Moreover, for the difference from these multinational Empires, the Bulgarian Kingdom was a multinational state! The Franks, after their stashes with the Bulgarians, kept the perishable remains of the fallen Bulgarian soldiers, since "it was impossible to make peace with the Bulgarians if these remains were not transferred to them for burial according to the Bulgarian custom." Arabs were afraid of the Bulgarians in military terms more than from the Byzantines! Arabian chroniclers write about it, saying that "one Bulgarian war can defeat 10 orthodox"!
      9. verner1967
        verner1967 11 November 2017 20: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: Partyzan
        and when were the Bulgarians brave?

        always, they fought with equal courage along with the Russians. We have such vandals too, it turns out, by your logic, all Russian cowards? fool
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: verner1967
          Quote: Partyzan
          and when were the Bulgarians brave?

          always, they fought with equal courage along with the Russians.

          especially in 2 world wars !!! wink wink
          1. verner1967
            verner1967 12 November 2017 13: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai Grek
            especially in 2 world wars!

            from whom did they run there?
      10. Maksim
        Maksim 12 November 2017 16: 53 New
        +3
        When it was necessary, then they were.
      11. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 12 November 2017 21: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Partyzan
        and when were the Bulgarians brave? it Russians constantly had to free them hi

        You shouldn’t be so. Bulgarians may not be the bravest warriors, but if the population of Bulgaria had not stood up for this monument, it would have been demolished back in the 90s. Although the generation of degenerates with the help of Russophobic and hate propaganda is now certainly cultivated there. But degenerates, like everywhere else, will die of drugs and their own stupidity.
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 49 New
          +3
          you noticed everything correctly, but here the forum users preach eternal friendship, and at the same time, politicians are chosen at home - who promise them geyropeyskie cookies, nothing personal - just a statement of facts hi
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 11 November 2017 12: 42 New
      +6
      Unfortunately, the level of culture falls where liberalism flourishes. "
      1. Kondratko
        Kondratko 11 November 2017 13: 01 New
        +5
        And there is. In today's world, many concepts have been turned upside down or vulgarized - having taken a rainbow from children, made it a flag for pirates, democracy has become synonymous with war, lawlessness and destruction, a liberal has become a man conducting subversive activities against his own country.
        PS In our city there is a monument of Soviet-Bulgarian friendship, I have never even seen graffiti on it, which depict all the walls and fences, but you can not even talk about vandalism, it’s not ... Oh, friends of the Bulgarians.
        1. pytar
          pytar 12 November 2017 13: 48 New
          +4
          In our city there is a monument of Soviet-Bulgarian friendship, I have never even seen graffiti on it, which depict all the walls and fences, but you can not even talk about vandalism, it’s not ... Oh, friends of the Bulgarians.

          If you want, we will find unpleasant examples in Russia!
          https://ria.ru/religion/20171021/1507279372.html
          In the center of Moscow, a monument to the heroes of Plevna perishes!
          "At the exit of the Kitay Gorod metro station is the famous chapel of the 19th century dedicated to the Russian grenadiers who died in battles for Plevna during the liberation of the Balkans. Around, in Ilyinsky Square, landscaping is in full swing, and the chapel is covered in bird droppings, paint applied a year ago, peeled off, rust peeps from beneath it. Memorable inscriptions on the roof fall off. Sculptures adorning the walls are corroded by a fungus. Ceramic mosaics inside the chapel too. Now there are some alcoholics and gays hanging out. Everything is in decline. Now 10 years we write letters the mayor’s office with a request to restore the building. We even have a roof leaking. Plates at the base are crooked, staggering, gaps between them. Alcohol is often drunk on them. We throw out bottles and garbage, but the "bulls" that fall between the plates are difficult to get. " - complains an activist from the Orthodox social movement "Forty Sorokov" Andrei Kuropatov. How did it happen that the monument to Russian military prowess in the very center of Moscow ended up in this state and who can save it? The Russians forgot how the Balkans liberated! In 1992, the chapel was transferred to the use of the Russian Orthodox Church, but at the same time remained on the balance of Moscow. The church does not have the right to restore the monument, only the mayor’s office, "says the head of the chapel, assistant to the rector, Archpriest Alexander Saltykov. Twice a year - on December 10 and March 3 - a service is held in the chapel: on the day of the capture of Pleven by Russian troops and on the day of graduation Russian-Turkish war, which liberated the Balkans from the Ottoman yoke. Every year eminent guests come to us for funeral services. For example, cosmonaut Alexei Leonov, the first man to go into outer space. Federation Council, State shocking Duma, Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Bulgarian ambassador regularly comes with a delegation, representatives of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church and the bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church. We are simply ashamed of the shrine in this state, "complains Stepanova. According to her, in Bulgaria 3 March is a national holiday, they remember that they gained independence thanks to Russia. The chapel was built on the 10 anniversary of the victory near Plevna at the expense of the grenadiers who wished to perpetuate the names of comrades who fell in battle. Monuments dedicated to this war are now in excellent condition in Bulgaria. We often reproach European countries for violating monuments related to our common history. But at the same time, we ourselves forget about the monuments of our military glory, "says the headman of the chapel.
    3. dog breeder
      dog breeder 11 November 2017 13: 26 New
      +7
      Do not be mistaken. They fight not with monuments, but with us, with our perception of our history, and indeed of the world. They do not directly conquer us, they conquer by raising the younger generation, which we have safely forgotten about by inculcating Western garbage in our children. And in this they are very much helped in schools, in cinemas, via the Internet. And we are at this time trying to overcome our temporary difficulties, which, God forbid, affect our children. And you just need to live next to your children, educate them, instill light, teach the saint.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 November 2017 14: 01 New
        0
        We saw two eights drawn, the Fascists did not hide their intentions in Bulgaria. Only for some reason Jews were attributed
    4. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 18: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Thrall
      The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.

      Can. But he will hit not in the face, but in the soul. And with such a mark, it will be difficult at the Last Judgment.
    5. pytar
      pytar 12 November 2017 15: 11 New
      +6
      The one who is at war with the monuments provocateur and marginal! This is not the Bulgarian people!
      These are the real Bulgarians! Our response to Bulgarianophobic propaganda!

      There, Bulgarian policemen and the people sing "Holy War!"

      Bulgarian children sing in support of Russia!
      1. Maksim
        Maksim 12 November 2017 16: 56 New
        +4
        Peter, even if we sing everything with vodka, bears and balalaikas in front of the Russian embassy, ​​some will be few in VO. They live in a parallel mirror of their own fantasies.
        Hello after the jail by the way :)
  2. Primoos
    Primoos 11 November 2017 12: 28 New
    +5
    It is necessary to catch this infection and tear off his hands. They condemned. Liars and hypocrites.
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      1. dubovitsckij.viktor
        dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Mac Sim
        Dumb, eh. They wrote you in black and white - the Bulgarians condemned.

        When was the trial? Who is the criminal? What is the punishment?
        1. Maksim
          Maksim 13 November 2017 18: 04 New
          +3
          Shas on the fingers is explainable for those who do not understand.

          Firstly, OFFICIALLY, the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry issued a statement stating that the country CONDEMNS this act of vandalism (the subject is shorter).

          Secondly, a bunch of people (uv. Pyter, verner1967 and many others) posted a video here about how the Bulgarians honor joint celebrations.

          Thirdly, the Bulgarian Ministry of Internal Affairs began an investigation.
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  4. Vitas
    Vitas 11 November 2017 12: 30 New
    +8
    Well, what a power that enemies are afraid of monuments!
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 11 November 2017 18: 56 New
      +1
      Vitas
      Well, what a power that enemies are afraid of monuments!
      Yes they are not afraid of monuments !!! Just some of the under-educated youth of them cynically crap into the souls of Russians!
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 11 November 2017 12: 31 New
    +8
    "Brothers" are degrading, in terms of inadequacy they want to catch up with the apple empire, and galloping pan-and-panhead? ?? fool It is unfortunate that not every monument can avenge the offenders! !! am
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 16: 59 New
      +2
      You, the partner, have definitely degraded. The only question is from what stage of inadequacy and to what level of rudeness.
  6. Nemesis
    Nemesis 11 November 2017 12: 38 New
    +5
    And in Russian, most likely, the fraudsters and Tozheroziyans are engaged in this infamy ... It's time to take harsh measures against the public with Russophobia ... When will article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation begin to work in Russia ?!
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 01 New
      +2
      I propose immediately to fill up with gauges and nuclear loaves. And then turn off the gas, oil and the flow of Russian brides.
      1. dubovitsckij.viktor
        dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Mac Sim
        I propose immediately to fill up with gauges and nuclear loaves. And then turn off the gas, oil and the flow of Russian brides.

        Give only time, give only time. There will be a squirrel for you, there will be a whistle.
        1. Maksim
          Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 38 New
          +3
          He took popcorn and sat down to wait. Perhaps the breaker will grow.
      2. Nemesis
        Nemesis 13 November 2017 00: 32 New
        +1
        Even if Russia sends all the Gaster back home, it will already hurt the economy of Ukraine and its like
        1. Maksim
          Maksim 13 November 2017 18: 06 New
          +2
          Ok, send the Bulgarians back. We will only benefit. But keep all sorts of Kirkorovs at home.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 14 November 2017 05: 26 New
            +1
            Kirkorov is also a Bulgarian, we don’t need someone else ...
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 November 2017 05: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: Nemesis
              Kirkorov is also a Bulgarian, we don’t need someone else ...

              Romanian he. And do not believe Saltykova. She took six kopecks from me in the eighties.
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 14 November 2017 06: 00 New
                +1
                But to me, as in the movie ,, Brother-2 '', it doesn’t matter whether he is Bulgarian or Romanian, both of these countries fought on Hitler’s side and now both members of the NATO bloc
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 14 November 2017 06: 06 New
                  +3
                  Romanians are weak. Grandfather, who was captive, climbed into a burning German plane, pulled out a bag of bread from there, so then Romania asked for this bread from him. Count up, the conquerors ask the prisoner for bread. They also climbed into the plane, but the German did not let them go. Said, "Here is Ivan the master."
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 14 November 2017 06: 11 New
                    +1
                    But big lovers make fun ... My grandmother, a girl, was in the territories occupied by the Nazis, said so that all these Magyars did such that the SS was resting ...
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 14 November 2017 06: 17 New
                      +3
                      I don’t know about this. My family in the occupied territory did not seem to have anyone. My grandfather, who was in captivity, was lucky, six months later he was released, and hello, the battalion. And there he spent only one day, received a serious wound.
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 14 November 2017 06: 25 New
                        +2
                        My grandmother’s family was under occupation ... My grandmother’s brother was not taken into the army, by age, he killed the Nazi, seized weapons and a horse, wanted to break through to the partisans, but he was caught up and killed by the Nazis ... Babkin was killed with his feet nazmen Nazis ... only the grandmother and her younger sister survived ... they met my great-grandfather from the war .... He also was captured, escaped from captivity, then somehow he could return to his own, avoiding the penal battalion and the Gulag .. .hotya.mog would get there, the Don Cossack was, did not want to go to the collective farm, dispossessed three times
              2. pytar
                pytar 14 November 2017 10: 05 New
                +5
                No Romanian. His dad is Armenian, his mother is Russian. laughing
            2. pytar
              pytar 14 November 2017 10: 03 New
              +4
              Kirkorov is also a Bulgarian, we don’t need someone else ...

              Philip Bedrosovich Kirkorov was born in Bulgaria. The son of an Armenian and a Russian. Although he himself is not an ethnic Bulgarian, he was always proud that his homeland is Bulgaria!
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 14 November 2017 10: 07 New
                0
                Another hakamada ...
  7. Sanya Terek
    Sanya Terek 11 November 2017 12: 38 New
    +3
    "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs strongly condemns the latest act of vandalism committed against the Alyosha monument in Plovdiv and using Nazi symbolism and anti-Semitic slogans.
    Such manifestations are absolutely unacceptable and contradict traditional tolerance and tolerance of Bulgarian society as well EU obligations and international organizations to combat racism, xenophobia and hate crimes. "

    Anything but thanks to the RELEASED SOLDIER.
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 02 New
      +2
      In the sense of thanks to whom and about what? The monument has already been built.
  8. PalBor
    PalBor 11 November 2017 12: 42 New
    12
    Yes, everywhere there are inadequacies. Do we have some oligophrenics on the Eternal Flame barbecue?
    And in 2001, in Bulgaria, local youths doused Skobelev’s monument with paint, so (a friend told me - a witness) the police caught up with them and simply kicked them back with the words: “Remember, spike, thanks to whom you live!”
  9. Mihail55
    Mihail55 11 November 2017 12: 45 New
    +3
    Condemned ... pah! If there was even a camera there, I'm not talking about security. We have a monument to those killed in the Second World War next to us in the park ... sometimes I notice a police car ... watch! And we have enough of our morons, and our "friends" have divorced them, a dime a dozen. Sorry, Alyosha ... ETERNAL MEMORY!
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 17: 04 New
      +2
      Are you talking about that monument in the Russian Federation where youngsters shook asses, or about where barbecue was cooked?
  10. Going
    Going 11 November 2017 12: 46 New
    +7
    Unfortunately, the desecration of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators is almost the norm for a number of European countries.


    Apparently, the time is not far off when Russia will once again restore order in Europe.
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 11 November 2017 12: 59 New
      +5
      Hello Victor hi so the next century ends, and this is a tradition request
      1. Going
        Going 11 November 2017 13: 02 New
        +8
        Hi Volodya! hi
        Yes, history repeats itself and nothing can be done about it.
    2. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 11 November 2017 13: 40 New
      +5
      Stop putting things in order! I would prefer to see the analogue of Aleppo throughout the geyrops and thousands of our train trains, taking out the gold of the defeated enemy.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Going
      Apparently, the time is not far off when Russia will once again restore order in Europe.

      go again to save all these ungrateful ???? what what what negative negative negative
    4. pytar
      pytar 12 November 2017 22: 39 New
      +3
      Apparently, the time is not far off when Russia will once again restore order in Europe.

      You first clean up your country, and then think about where else ... hi
  11. AleBors
    AleBors 11 November 2017 12: 51 New
    +2
    And let's give Kirkorov an answer with fuel oil?
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 11 November 2017 13: 01 New
      +8
      What for? Why take an example from the near?
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 11 November 2017 13: 18 New
        +2
        Well, what an example is there ... Thus, we express "concern" and condemnation ... lol
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 11 November 2017 13: 08 New
      +1
      And, let’s ... I, for ... Babosov, normally in Russia, have earned .. Let, invest in monuments in the territory of Bulgaria ... And, for one thing, it’s a great deal.
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 11 November 2017 22: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: AleBors
      And let's give Kirkorov an answer with fuel oil?

      In fact, he is Armenian (although originally from Bulgaria) laughing
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  13. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 11 November 2017 13: 11 New
    +2
    What turned blooming Bulgaria Euro-liberals and their overseas masters! In the battered beggar of Europe with reptilian "authorities" and people indifferent to their history.
    1. Bolo
      Bolo 11 November 2017 19: 06 New
      +1
      pot calls the kettle black
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Oleg Andreev
      What turned blooming Bulgaria Euro-liberals and their overseas masters! In the battered beggar of Europe with reptilian "authorities" and people indifferent to their history.

      what what what it bloomed with the support of the USSR !!! yes yes laughing laughing laughing
  14. Strategy
    Strategy 11 November 2017 13: 17 New
    +3
    Both the First and the Second World Wars the "little brothers" began as part of a coalition that was opposed to Russia! Something like this...
    1. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 18: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Strategia
      Both the First and the Second World Wars the "little brothers" began as part of a coalition that was opposed to Russia! Something like this...

      ... In the First and Second Balkan wars the same.
      1. nedgen
        nedgen 11 November 2017 23: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
        Quote: Strategia
        Both the First and the Second World Wars the "little brothers" began as part of a coalition that was opposed to Russia! Something like this...

        ... In the First and Second Balkan wars the same.


        Well, dear Dubovatsky Respect full to you hi
        You would be nominated for a Nobel Prize in History. Come up with this !!! The anti-Russian coalition in wars in which the Russian Empire did not intervene directly from the word AT ALL. wassat You just threw me into the orchestra hi
        1. dubovitsckij.viktor
          dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: nedgen
          Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
          Quote: Strategia
          Both the First and the Second World Wars the "little brothers" began as part of a coalition that was opposed to Russia! Something like this...

          ... In the First and Second Balkan wars the same.


          Well, dear Dubovatsky Respect full to you hi
          You would be nominated for a Nobel Prize in History. Come up with this !!! The anti-Russian coalition in wars in which the Russian Empire did not intervene directly from the word AT ALL. wassat You just threw me into the orchestra hi

          What difference does it hit you in the face, or in the face of your brother? A war against an ally of Russia is the same as fighting against Russia itself.
          Not this way?
  15. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 11 November 2017 13: 29 New
    +5
    It's time to end the ceremony with the brothers on the perimeter of the borders of Russia! I hope that the staff will eventually throw this cannon fodder at us. We will slaughter the enemy from all guns until we completely destroy him. We were always too humane towards the enemy, but our overseas “partners” were not soared about this.
  16. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 11 November 2017 13: 43 New
    +6
    We will give Bulgaria to the Turks ... (by agreement) Constantly betray!
    Let them remember their story ... Yes, cruel, but there is no other way out! Then again, “free” he he

    The screech will be throughout Europe, when they will be accustomed to their order by scimitar ..
    And we shut our ears for a while! negative
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 11 November 2017 14: 09 New
      +1
      And by what right?
      1. TiRex
        TiRex 11 November 2017 14: 34 New
        +4
        for the same reason that the last time they released and the year before last, too
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 11 November 2017 15: 50 New
          +3
          Exactly ... !!! Someone else thinks that there is some kind of international law? Always, in this world, there was only the right of the “strong” ... Strong, he could protect, but he could offend ... And he felt strong, only about how the “other strong” would react to it, if it is in the sphere, his interests ..
      2. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 11 November 2017 16: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Deniska999
        And by what right?

        Just give it all! Putin by phone to Erdogan will briefly say “Bulgaria is yours” and hang up! This is the highest "right"! bully
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 11 November 2017 16: 45 New
          +2
          R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Bulgaria is yours and hang up

          For some reason, it seems to me that it will be so ... An impression, such that a decision was made to "cure" all sorts of "bros" from a love of the West ... And what, it will be, painful or not ... Decide , first of all, by themselves. : wink
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 22: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Quote: Deniska999
          And by what right?

          Just give it all! Putin by phone to Erdogan will briefly say “Bulgaria is yours” and hang up! This is the highest "right"! bully

          bad idea ... Turkaras will be worse than Baglaras !!! negative negative negative laughing laughing
        3. nedgen
          nedgen 11 November 2017 23: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Quote: Deniska999
          And by what right?

          Just give it all! Putin by phone to Erdogan will briefly say “Bulgaria is yours” and hang up! This is the highest "right"! bully


          That’s why it’s why you are respected by Vladimir Vladimirovich himself and cannon come up for a cannon shot, so that you can write down in advisers ??? Something I can’t believe that the GDP of the munch is dull in GDP hi
          1. dubovitsckij.viktor
            dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: nedgen
            Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
            Quote: Deniska999
            And by what right?

            Just give it all! Putin by phone to Erdogan will briefly say “Bulgaria is yours” and hang up! This is the highest "right"! bully


            That’s why it’s why you are respected by Vladimir Vladimirovich himself and cannon come up for a cannon shot, so that you can write down in advisers ??? Something I can’t believe that the GDP of the munch is dull in GDP hi

            But does Putin not realize that only a complete idiot can protect a country that has joined NATO from another country located there?
            1. Maksim
              Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 42 New
              +2
              Forget what aggravation no Psychiatrists reading your comments applauding standing ...
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  17. Koshak
    Koshak 11 November 2017 13: 49 New
    0
    These affairs should be condemned by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  18. polpot
    polpot 11 November 2017 14: 27 New
    +2
    Soon 30 years as there are no Communists, there may be other guilty in their impoverished life they will look for, I think they are still alive
  19. stolz
    stolz 11 November 2017 14: 43 New
    0
    For a long time, the Bulgarians gathered with their statement about the desecration of the monument in Plovdiv, because it happened back in February this year. Probably hot, again they will ask for something from Russia, but better later than never.
  20. pvv113
    pvv113 11 November 2017 14: 51 New
    +1
    The Russian Foreign Ministry ... demanded that the Bulgarian authorities investigate the crime committed by unknown persons.
    Bulgarian Foreign Ministry says it condemns the incident

    An interesting reaction to the crime. So many desecrated monuments - and no one is to blame! But they condemned!
  21. Sergey53
    Sergey53 11 November 2017 15: 09 New
    0
    Well here again. And where are the people of Bulgaria who are for us? But only the Bulgarian government is against us.?
    1. freddyk
      freddyk 11 November 2017 15: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey53
      Well here again. And where are the people of Bulgaria who are for us? But only the Bulgarian government is against us.?

      I would not prematurely drive the Bulgarians, because the perpetrators have not yet been found. Bulgaria is an open country, anyone could do it, from the Balts to Svidomo. What prevents dill resting in Bulgaria to “visit” the memorial?
      1. Strategy
        Strategy 11 November 2017 15: 37 New
        0
        Of course, if your cat or dog is fed up with your shoe for your guest, then you certainly have nothing to do with it. Examination will fully confirm your innocence. And the guest ... let him come no more. And don’t dare to punish a cat or dog - ANIMAL protection society can hold you accountable!
      2. Sergey53
        Sergey53 11 November 2017 17: 07 New
        +1
        Since this is not the first time the monument has taken place, they could have put a camera. Guessing is of course easier.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 12 November 2017 12: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey53
          This is not the first time that a monument has taken place, they could have put a camera.

          Do we have many cameras in front of the monuments? Or were they no longer desecrated?
          1. Sergey53
            Sergey53 12 November 2017 18: 55 New
            +1
            I agree and we de..ma enough.
      3. pytar
        pytar 13 November 2017 12: 11 New
        +3
        What prevents dill resting in Bulgaria to “visit” the memorial?

        The largest diasporas in Bulgaria are Russians and Ukrainians. In 2013, permanent residence, we had 12 000 Russians and 3 000 Ukrainians. VMZH have almost 350 thousand. citizens of the Russian Federation, but I don’t know how much with Ukraine. Probably the ratio is the same - 1 / 4. In 2015, 224 Ukrainians and 214 Russians received Bulgarian citizenship. This is all without tourists.
    2. pytar
      pytar 11 November 2017 23: 02 New
      +5
      By the time the holidays approach, volunteers defend the monuments from the provocateurs day by day. Together with the police. Count - along with the government. Unfortunately, it is not always possible to predict when some kind of nimble agent provocateur will receive an order ... The video is in Bulgarian, but I think it’s understandable in Russian too.


      But on this video, it is very clearly seen what the attitude of the Bulgarian people towards Russia and ... to the local authorities ... Pay attention to the fact that everyone is young people there!
  22. stolz
    stolz 11 November 2017 16: 04 New
    +3
    Quote: Koshak
    These affairs should be condemned by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    Probably no one has sent you for a long time, teach someone else what should do and you will be sent in Bulgarian.
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 13 November 2017 19: 58 New
      +2
      We can send, but is it worth it?
  23. pytar
    pytar 11 November 2017 16: 13 New
    10
    On the night of October 31 in Sofia, on a monument to the Soviet Army, an anti-Semitic inscription appeared - "100-years Zionist occupation." This is just before the anniversary of the Balfour Declaration of 2 on November 1917, with which the British Foreign Minister announced for the first time that London was ready to create a state for Jews in Palestine. A letter from Balyufur is considered a constituent instrument of statehood in Israel.



    The second case, which is mentioned in the article, happened on the night of November 9. In addition to the inscription "communism = Jewry" and the swastika, on the railing around the monument was written "kristall nacht", "all communists to court", etc.



    The Ministry of Internal Affairs is conducting an investigation in both cases. According to unofficial information, several versions are being developed:
    1. Organized provocation with the goal of exacerbating relations between Bulgaria and the Russian Federation - This version has reason to take into account similar cases that have occurred before the expected visit of Vladimir Putin, scheduled for March 2018.
    2. Actions of hooligans from a marginal anti-communist / anti-Semitic group - This version takes place, in view of the fact that, according to graphologists and the wallpaper, the inscriptions are made by the same person. A comparative examination is carried out with other similar inscriptions that appeared in other public places in the last year.
    3. The action of foreigners with anti-Russian, anti-Semitic beliefs and who are temporarily or permanently on the territory of Bulgaria - Some minor spelling inconsistencies in the inscriptions and the fact that all similar inscriptions and paints that have happened with 3 paint over the past few months are yellow, blue lead to this version and red.

    The wallpaper of the monument is iconic and at the same time located in places where the performer can go unnoticed. Make such an inscription matter in a few minutes. Even the presence of CCTV cameras does not guarantee the identification of the intruder at night.
    Alyosha pebbler on the Bunardzhika hill in Plovdiv.

    The memorial of the Soviet army is located in the Princely Garden in Sofia.

    Bulgaria has the greatest concentration in the world, on monuments, names, etc. dedicated to Russia / USSR. More than 530! Of these, 400 in honor of Russia and 130 in honor of the Soviet army. All of them are in excellent condition. No one in Bulgaria ever touched the monuments that stood in honor of Russia! Everything is clear with him! Opinions differ on the attitude of the SA monuments. During WWII, not a single Soviet soldier was killed in Bulgaria. All monuments built by the Bulgarian Communist Party. After taking power, the BKP conducts reprisals and purges. Tens of thousands of people, people among them and the Communists suffered. They evaluate this period extremely nativno. In their opinion, all communist monuments and symbols / without a difference are Bulgarian and others / must go to museums. There are also broad sections in society that go out in defense of the conservation of monuments. In Bulgarian society, a split continues on the theme of communism and the socialist past. For some, this period was the best, for others it was associated with personal tragedy. The Supreme Judge of Bulgaria, ruled that all these monuments are part of the historical heritage and protected by law. So, opponents of this decision can do nothing but painting. The authorities are likely to take additional measures, although if someone must decide to spray with a spray, it is unlikely to stop him.
    1. Slon_on
      Slon_on 11 November 2017 16: 58 New
      +4
      It seems to me that the 3rd version is the most real, the provocation of the Ukrainian fascists is quite seen.
      1. pytar
        pytar 11 November 2017 17: 37 New
        +5
        Quite possible. There are already several cases involving Ukrainians.
        This is the same monument to the Soviet army in Sofia.

        A reaction immediately followed from the side of the Bulgarian Russophiles - they organized a guard in front of the monument and demolished the colors. As a note: In Bulgaria, the most massive non-governmental organization is called the "National Russofil Movement" - NDR. She has the largest membership and clubs across the country.

        In Bulgaria, many Ukrainians and Russians live on permanent residence. The result was also the confrontation between them. There was recently a case in which a skirmish occurred between protesting Ukrainians and Bulgarian patriotic organizations. Here it is necessary to note the fact that in Bulgaria the majority of nationalist and patriotic organizations are pro-Russian. Here are photos and videos of the case in Burgas.


        Of course, you can’t blame someone else until the investigation finds out the performer.
    2. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 17: 06 New
      +1
      pytar Opinions differ on the attitude of the SA monuments.

      So the USSR did not liberate Bulgaria in the 1945 year, and when Bulgaria was part of the ATS, there was no WB SA on its territory (the only one of all the countries of the ATS) ....
      During WWII, not a single Soviet soldier was killed in Bulgaria.

      In honor of whom then are the monuments?
      A total of about 9 million Soviet soldiers participated in the liberation of 11 European countries. The irretrievable losses of the Red Army during the liberation of the states of Europe amounted to:

      in Poland - 600212 people;
      in Czechoslovakia - 139918 people;
      in Hungary - 140004 people;
      in Germany - 101961 people;
      in Romania - 68993 people;
      in Austria - 26006 people;
      in Yugoslavia - 7995 people;
      in Norway - 3436 people;
      in Bulgaria - 977 people;

      https://moiarussia.ru/skolko-pogiblo-sovetskih-so
      ldat-za-osvobozhdenie-evropy-ot-fashizma /
      yyy ghouls, when will you change all faith thanks to the Turks ....
      1. pytar
        pytar 11 November 2017 17: 45 New
        +4
        I want to know where the number of 977 people was taken from. with the position that normal diplomatic relations were maintained between the USSR and Bulgaria during WWII? On the 05.09.1944 of the USSR the war formally declares, but no military operations are conducted. The Soviet army crosses the Bulgarian cities and villages as in a parade. The only losses I know, for this period are non-combat. 7 or 9 of Soviet soldiers died when a truck crashed while crossing the mountain passes of Bulgaria.
        1. Maksim
          Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 47 New
          +2
          The figures are different, but this is almost a thousand Soviet soldiers and officers who died from wounds in the Belgrade offensive operation, extraordinary cases and nobleness on the territory of Bulgaria.
          1. pytar
            pytar 12 November 2017 21: 32 New
            +4
            It turns out that our "competent" interlocutor MOSKVITYANIN took these figures and wrote them off to the liberation of Bulgaria! Tricks like that ... wink It really Belgrade founded by the Bulgarian Tsar Boris I. Alba Bulgarica, as it was called then Latin was really a long time Bulgarian city, but it was in the 9-10 century! As it does not fit with WWII! laughing
            1. Maksim
              Maksim 12 November 2017 21: 47 New
              +2
              For his comments, only a bear screaming from the bushes “competent” is not enough. Need to draw.
    3. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 18: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: pytar
      .....
      After all, all of you will have to launder after that.
      1. pytar
        pytar 11 November 2017 18: 25 New
        +5
        In each country there are 5 idiots who, for want of something to do, or for 10 $ will go to paint the monuments. In Russia, such cases are much larger. Wash yourself ...
        Here is the opinion of one Russian man who has long lived in Bulgaria, whom I personally know.
        1. dubovitsckij.viktor
          dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 20: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: pytar
          In each country there are 5 idiots who, for want of something to do, or for 10 $ will go to paint the monuments. In Russia, such cases are much larger. Wash yourself ...
          Here is the opinion of one Russian man who has long lived in Bulgaria, whom I personally know.

          We ourselves will hang our own. How to catch. But what to do with yours?
          1. pytar
            pytar 12 November 2017 00: 34 New
            +3
            We ourselves will hang our own. How to catch. But what to do with yours?

            We will deal with ours ... angry
            1. dubovitsckij.viktor
              dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: pytar
              We ourselves will hang our own. How to catch. But what to do with yours?

              We will deal with ours ... angry

              Please inform about the execution.
              1. pytar
                pytar 12 November 2017 19: 32 New
                +3
                We ourselves will hang our own. How to catch.

                On the performance and you will inform. wink
                How to catch ours, we will inform you too. yes
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              3. pytar
                pytar 14 November 2017 12: 23 New
                +3
                Please inform about the execution.

                First news on:
                The Bulgarian Facebook group published a call to shoot Russophobes in Bulgaria. The group’s page is no longer available on Facebook, and its initial name was “Bulgaria and Russia - together forever.” On Saturday, in a group of 65 thousand followers, a call was published for the shooting of Russophobes in Bulgaria.
                “We are assembling a shock group of people with firearms. Be sure that the time has come when Russophobes will be shot. The only dead Russophobes do not threaten the national security of Bulgaria. We urge all Bulgarian patriots to eliminate Russophobes! The protection of Russian and Soviet monuments also begins. We will physically eliminate everyone who tries to defile them. ", The appeal said.

                And how are you doing tasks ??? bully
                1. Svateev
                  Svateev 14 November 2017 12: 55 New
                  +1
                  Quote: pytar
                  Russophobes will be shot ... And how are you doing tasks ???

                  We do not shoot, while law enforcement officers are coping with us. Here in Volgograd, a foreign student urinated on the Eternal Flame and "sat down" on the 3,5 of the year - the maximum bar in the article "bullying."
  24. Alexander rr
    Alexander rr 11 November 2017 16: 20 New
    +5
    I hope we won’t send Alyos back there ...?
    1. Strategy
      Strategy 11 November 2017 16: 48 New
      +4
      Now there are Iskanders. Countries that deployed US missile defense elements on their territory have already invited them to visit.
      1. Maksim
        Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 49 New
        +2
        Do not spoil the sofa while Caliber / Iskander / Poplar (underline as necessary) is launched.
        1. Strategy
          Strategy 20 November 2017 20: 51 New
          0
          Let the host worry about the sofas!
  25. av58
    av58 11 November 2017 17: 08 New
    0
    "... The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of [Bulgaria] strongly condemns NEXT an act of vandalism committed against the monument "Alyosha" in Plovdiv and using Nazi symbolism and anti-Semitic slogans ... "
    That's it: the next one. In words the Bulgarian authorities condemns these tricks, in fact - condones Russophobia.
    1. pytar
      pytar 11 November 2017 18: 09 New
      +6
      The Bulgarian authorities just condemn vandalism! There is also a ruling of the Bulgarian Supreme Court on the protection of monuments on the territory of Bulgaria. Unfortunately, in all countries there are marginals, and it is impossible to protect all the monuments.
      In general, mocking with monuments in Bulgaria is extremely rare, while more often happens with Bulgarian monuments. Since the Russian Federation closely reflects each case with “Soviet monuments”, it seems that the Bulgarians have no other business than spraying the monuments with spray. In fact, Bulgaria is one of the few countries in the world where new Russian monuments stand today. Over the past 15 years, 7-8 has been built, and as many are in the design stages. Vandal acts with monuments take place in Russia 100 times MORE! Hundreds destroyed! For that, in 2014, the Russian Dumma passed a law with the highest in Europe craft, punishing vandilism and destruction of monuments!
  26. cniza
    cniza 11 November 2017 17: 09 New
    +1
    The Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that it condemned the incident with the monument in Plovdiv:


    And what did the Ministry of Internal Affairs say?
    1. pytar
      pytar 11 November 2017 18: 21 New
      +5
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs is conducting an investigation into the 3 version. There are 4, but so far nothing has been announced. As far as I am in the course, a graphological examination has already been carried out and a comparative analysis with other similar cases is carried out.
  27. faiver
    faiver 11 November 2017 18: 12 New
    +4
    excuse me, but I have a feeling that most commentators are either not adequate or do not understand the essence of what is happening - our Foreign Ministry demanded an investigation, in response the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry on behalf of the government replied that it condemns this barbarism, and the police are investigating, i.e. everyone does his own thing
    And in vain you run into little brothers - at the last NATO exercises, Bulgarian soldiers refused to shoot at targets stylized as Russian uniforms
    Before waving a saber it would be nice to think a little ... hi
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      1. faiver
        faiver 11 November 2017 18: 32 New
        +4
        level of intelligence surpasses ... hi
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          2. Svateev
            Svateev 11 November 2017 23: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
            Look another "Bulgarian" surfaced ....

            Well, for sure - a foreigner yes
    2. pytar
      pytar 11 November 2017 18: 31 New
      +8
      faiver
      According to one version of the investigation, it is a deliberate provocation, whose goal is to provoke a violent anti-Bulgarian reaction in Russia and a response from Bulgaria. The technology of such upsets is elementary and there are probably quite a lot of “set-ups” in Russian-speaking forums that are supposed to warm up the corresponding moods. And at that time somewhere overseas, someone sits and rubs his dirty hands pretty ... hi
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                1. Svateev
                  Svateev 11 November 2017 22: 54 New
                  +2
                  Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                  Like I can only write, but can I say no?

                  Nah, "Tipo" tongue
                  1. MOSKVITYANIN
                    MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 23: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Svateev
                    Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                    Like I can only write, but can I say no?

                    Nah, "Tipo" tongue

                    My feet and go to bed .... angry request
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 14 November 2017 12: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                      My feet and go to bed ...

                      Does mom say that to you? Obey mom!
                      And until you understand what the expression "native speaker" means, do not get into a dispute between adults!
        2. pytar
          pytar 11 November 2017 18: 59 New
          +3
          If you are so smart, you can answer: Who did it?
          We’ll talk about the Bulgarian reaction later ...
          1. MOSKVITYANIN
            MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 19: 19 New
            0
            Quote: pytar
            If you are so smart, you can answer: Who did it?

            That's when the Bulgarian embassy in Russia is burned, then ask, gee .....
            1. pytar
              pytar 11 November 2017 19: 25 New
              +4
              Do you explicitly admit that the purpose of this provocation is to cause Bulgarian-phobic / to all Bulgarian / sentiments with subsequent anti-Bulgarian provocations in the territory of Russia? Set peoples against one another at the household level? It is marginalized and enough in the Russian Federation! So the whole picture was drawn! good That's how well everything is thought up! Simpler, simpler ... and not new by the way. I wonder who benefit from this in view of the upcoming visit of President Putin in Bulgaria and the planned warming in relations between our countries!

              This is one of the versions according to which the BMVD works. hi
              1. MOSKVITYANIN
                MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 19: 35 New
                +1
                Okay, they closed the topic, the monument was desecrated in Bulgaria, so you are to blame, if you burn the Bulgarian embassy in Moscow, then we will be guilty, of course, okay ....
                1. pytar
                  pytar 11 November 2017 20: 55 New
                  +8
                  We close the topic with one clarification! Wherever a monument is desecrated, those who are to blame for the matrimonial will be concrete individuals! If "if they burn the Bulgarian embassy in Moscow," those specific individuals who will do it will be to blame! Those who desecrate monuments and those who burn embassies are criminals! If you are such a simple vechch do not understand what to discuss with you ..?! negative
                  1. MOSKVITYANIN
                    MOSKVITYANIN 11 November 2017 22: 45 New
                    0
                    pytar If "if they burn the Bulgarian embassy in Moscow," those specific individuals who will do it will be to blame!

                    But what about the Vienna Convention, there, like the state, is responsible for diplomatic missions and their inviolability, monuments do not have such immunity ....
                    Well, you know better there in the EU, tea is not fools ....
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 12 November 2017 00: 49 New
                      +3
                      monuments do not have such immunity ....

                      Monuments of the Soviet army in Bulgaria, protected by Bulgarian legal norms, intergovernmental disputes and international conventions! There are already 10 of them for the monument to the Soviet Army in Sofia! 4 of them are European! With the decision of the Supreme Court / it has the force of law / the status "Memorials of cultural historical heritage" has been transferred to them! Do not know, do not write nonsense!
    3. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 20: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: faiver
      excuse me, but I have a feeling that most commentators are either not adequate or do not understand the essence of what is happening - our Foreign Ministry demanded an investigation, in response the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry on behalf of the government replied that it condemns this barbarism, and the police are investigating, i.e. everyone does his own thing
      And in vain you run into little brothers - at the last NATO exercises, Bulgarian soldiers refused to shoot at targets stylized as Russian uniforms
      Before waving a saber it would be nice to think a little ... hi

      For refusing to give them an order, or what? Yes, because NATO climbed the Iskander bosom. To not have time to escape.
      1. nedgen
        nedgen 11 November 2017 23: 25 New
        +3
        Yes, and you personally would not be in the way of a iskanderchik in the bedroom (for the fact that you fully comply with your own nickname hi ) I strongly doubt that you personally would venture on this (would not obey the direct orders of the commanders), all the more so since the guys and officers were threatened with remaining on the street without any means of subsistence. They were then contract soldiers.
      2. faiver
        faiver 12 November 2017 06: 06 New
        +2
        everyone climbed into NATO, even the Russian Federation was about to join, understand a simple thing, most European countries are not able to conduct an independent policy - they need an "older brother"
  28. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 11 November 2017 19: 41 New
    +2
    royal guardsmen and german soldiers
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 05 New
      +2
      So when was the Kingdom of Bulgaria? We are waiting for a picture of the gene. Vlasova with panzergrenadirs.
  29. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 11 November 2017 20: 15 New
    +1
    The most interesting thing is that no one desecrates Nazi monuments and burials, although they had to be demolished right away
    1. pytar
      pytar 11 November 2017 21: 05 New
      +5
      In Bulgaria there are no Nazi monuments and burials.
      1. dubovitsckij.viktor
        dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 10: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: pytar
        In Bulgaria there are no Nazi monuments and burials.

        Through time, WILL. Look at the Ukrainians. You are going the same way.
        1. pytar
          pytar 12 November 2017 12: 55 New
          +4
          You weak predictor ... You can’t reach Wang ... lol
          1. dubovitsckij.viktor
            dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 14: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: pytar
            You weak predictor ... You can’t reach Wang ... lol

            A connoisseur of the soothsayer must know that to abandon Russia is to be fools. Because the future of Russia is beautiful.
            1. pytar
              pytar 12 November 2017 15: 20 New
              +5
              I have no doubt that the future of Russia is beautiful! I have no doubt that Bulgaria and Russia will be friends! Some people do not like this writing here, under the mask of "Russian patriots"! negative
              1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: pytar
                I have no doubt that the future of Russia is beautiful! I have no doubt that Bulgaria and Russia will be friends! Some people do not like this writing here, under the mask of "Russian patriots"! negative

                Friendship must be earned. Prove your allegiance to a friend. Start by leaving NATO. You can stay in the EU, this is a completely different matter.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 12 November 2017 19: 36 New
                  +3
                  Interesting ... Do you give directions from states from a personal or service tablet? belay What is your position, department? lol
      2. ljoha_d
        ljoha_d 14 November 2017 19: 32 New
        0
        I am not talking specifically about Bulgaria, for example in Latvia we have such ones.
  30. Eurodav
    Eurodav 11 November 2017 20: 42 New
    +5
    Quote: Partyzan
    Quote: Thrall
    The one who is at war with monuments - the TRUS! The stone cannot fight back.

    and when were the Bulgarians brave? it Russians constantly had to free them hi

    Well, okay, don’t need this ... Recently, a colleague from Bulgaria told us how they relate to these monuments! Do not offend ordinary people led by evil spirits ...
  31. Eurodav
    Eurodav 11 November 2017 20: 47 New
    +4
    Quote: dedBoroded
    royal guardsmen and german soldiers

    Do not provoke ... On the outskirts of such a photo, and we always considered them brothers ... Wait until the smart Bulgarian answers you with a picture of Cossack Krasnov in the form of an SS ... Fine line ... Do not overdo it ... do not. ..
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 52 New
      +2
      Or Vlasov. In any family, not without a freak.
  32. Eurodav
    Eurodav 11 November 2017 20: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: pytar
    Do you explicitly admit that the purpose of this provocation is to cause Bulgarian-phobic / to all Bulgarian / sentiments with subsequent anti-Bulgarian provocations in the territory of Russia? Set peoples against one another at the household level? It is marginalized and enough in the Russian Federation! So the whole picture was drawn! good That's how well everything is thought up! Simpler, simpler ... and not new by the way. I wonder who benefit from this in view of the upcoming visit of President Putin in Bulgaria and the planned warming in relations between our countries!

    This is one of the versions according to which the BMVD works. hi

    A lot of text ... You catch these obscurantists there, you can with light bodily .. And do not be offended, it is clear that you are a worthy person ... Peace to your home!
    And here we have ... And here we have another great Russian gone ... Zadornov ...
    1. pytar
      pytar 12 November 2017 01: 04 New
      +5
      And here we have another great Russian gone ... Zadornov ...

      He was one of my favorite Artists! I always watched his performance with interest! Peace be upon you!
  33. Bratyshka
    Bratyshka 11 November 2017 22: 33 New
    +2
    For the umpteenth time, I’m writing: are you really screaming here with foam at the mouth that the little brothers have deceived them in any way, and here is the same provocation? A provocation against our common communication with one Bulgarian who remained here on the site. This is part of our small community. And in the framework of the world, our countries are clashing. What do you screaming recall the past? So remember how the drunkard Yeltsin betrayed the very Bulgarians, our Yeltsin, in your opinion, which we deserved. Think about it now. And if the Bulgarians do not ask us again? Who will lose more from this? We already have practically no influence on the whole Balkan region. One hundred years ago, the Russian Tsar was not at all, yes, they helped the little brothers, but are you really so naive that you sincerely think that the country's leadership did not have exactly political interest in the Balkans, and fought for the interest of Russia with the Turks. Turn on the brain, do not be blondes. And thank the Bulgarian, for being with us, by the way, and it’s interesting to listen to him. And you started a brother betrayed. The past has passed. Think about today. And be friends with the Bulgarians more, with ordinary people. Less will be idiots with red paint
  34. pytar
    pytar 11 November 2017 22: 36 New
    +6
    dubovitsckij.viktor,
    We can talk about “loyalty to our allies” after we recall who destroyed the ATS and betrayed all of its allies, among whom the People’s Republic of Bulgaria were faithful themselves! It was not so long ago!
    Мы do not reproach the Russian people! He is a People Worthy and Honorable!
    1. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 10: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: pytar
      dubovitsckij.viktor,
      We can talk about “loyalty to our allies” after we recall who destroyed the ATS and betrayed all of its allies, among whom the People’s Republic of Bulgaria were faithful themselves! It was not so long ago!
      Мы do not reproach the Russian people! He is a People Worthy and Honorable!

      We did not betray anyone. We perished on our own. Like a state. We did not enter into hostile blocks. We did not break the alliance treaties. Due to difficult circumstances, they did not feed from the hands of those from whom the shop window was made. You just talked about the occupation of Bulgaria. And on the spot you're talking about the betrayal of the police department when you were released. Without ransom, reparations (as an enemy in the war, and defeated in 1945).
      1. pytar
        pytar 12 November 2017 12: 58 New
        +3
        Not you". Your "rulers" sold and betrayed everything they could. Awkward fact, but what can you do ... You can not argue with the facts ... lol
        1. dubovitsckij.viktor
          dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 14: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: pytar
          Not you". Your "rulers" sold and betrayed everything they could. Awkward fact, but what can you do ... You can not argue with the facts ... lol

          Did we betray Turkish Stream? Belene NPP?
          Well, more in detail. And what have we (our rulers) betrayed? Have we joined NATO? People entered, or rulers? Which country?
          1. pytar
            pytar 12 November 2017 15: 28 New
            +3
            Did we betray Turkish Stream? Belene NPP?

            You need to update more often the memos on which you write ... laughing
            Bulgaria and the Russian Federation, at the moment, are working on a new technical solution of UP-TP. Do not even follow Russian media! Two months ago, Izhorskiye Zavody delivered an 2 reactor for Belene NPP. Negotiations are ongoing with investors, including from the Russian Federation, to resume financing of the property.
            And what have we (our rulers) betrayed? Have we joined NATO? People entered, or rulers?

            Miss again. “Forgetting” about two world famous characters Gorbi and Yeltsin. And pretend that you did not read my previous posts. Nobody blames the Russian people! No one should blame the Bulgarian people! This is an elementary substitution of concepts and you consciously do IT! negative
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              1. pytar
                pytar 12 November 2017 19: 43 New
                +2
                Already serially afraid for your health. sad After all, the real situation will ever reach you and it will be a shock to the body! I advise you to look for the latest info on the topics you are writing about. Prepare psychologically for the upcoming development. good
  35. Bratyshka
    Bratyshka 11 November 2017 22: 38 New
    +6
    In the previous one, he wrote about the tsar, missed, I didn’t want to write. And I advise the Bulgarian tanning koment not to read, there are more of us who think with our heads
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 02 New
      +2
      Plus you and respect with all my heart!
  36. Thracian warrior
    Thracian warrior 11 November 2017 22: 47 New
    +2
    In Bulgaria, not a single Russian soldier died - why do we need this monument? All the same, the 44th did not liberate us, but got drunk in the communist dermis. FACT!
    1. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 10: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      In Bulgaria, not a single Russian soldier died - why do we need this monument? All the same, the 44th did not liberate us, but got drunk in the communist dermis. FACT!

      A country that fought in a war against you MUST BE conquered and occupied. In it, the political system MUST be changed. It is necessary to change the situation when this lousy fought ALWAYS AGAINST you or against your allies. In "thanks" for the release.
      1. pytar
        pytar 12 November 2017 13: 03 New
        +3
        That's the thing that did not fight. From the word at all. Bulgaria even left WWII with territorial acquisitions - South Dobrudja. To change the power of a social system in a foreign country, it turned out to be a bad idea, as practice has shown. Evidence? Nowhere in BE is this system anymore. She is not there, and from where she came to us. request
        1. dubovitsckij.viktor
          dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 14: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: pytar
          That's the thing that did not fight. From the word at all. Bulgaria even left WWII with territorial acquisitions - South Dobrudja. To change the power of a social system in a foreign country, it turned out to be a bad idea, as practice has shown. Evidence? Nowhere in BE is this system anymore. She is not there, and from where she came to us. request

          Bulgarians sunk our submarines. Bulgarians killed the Yugoslavs, and allowed the Germans to come to the East from there. Bulgaria declared war on the USSR. The fact that Boris could not send an army to the USSR is not because he loved, but because he was afraid. Could hang. Parts of the Bulgarians participated in the SS troops. "Volunteers."
          1. pytar
            pytar 12 November 2017 15: 33 New
            +3
            Bulgarians sunk our submarines.

            ... into the Bulgarian territorial waters transported by communist saboteurs on the Bulgarian coast. It would be surprising if the monarchical government with which the Communists fought would meet the submarines with "bread and salt"! fool
            By the way, in this connection, why do you forget to mention the tens of thousands of Bulgarian partisans who fought on the territory of Bulgaria against the monarchist government and German troops? Not invested in your theses somehow? lol
            The rest of your interpretations, even in this post are already exposed. bully
            1. dubovitsckij.viktor
              dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 18: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: pytar
              Bulgarians sunk our submarines.

              ... into the Bulgarian territorial waters transported by communist saboteurs on the Bulgarian coast. It would be surprising if the monarchical government with which the Communists fought would meet the submarines with "bread and salt"! fool
              By the way, in this connection, why do you forget to mention the tens of thousands of Bulgarian partisans who fought on the territory of Bulgaria against the monarchist government and German troops? Not invested in your theses somehow? lol
              The rest of your interpretations, even in this post are already exposed. bully

              Bulgaria declared war on the USSR. Not the other way around. And in these conditions, when Varna became the base for the Nazis, to expect that we would not drown the Germans? BULGAR drowned? Even when US declared war?
              1. Maksim
                Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 53 New
                +3
                Let me know, dear Expert, when exactly Bulgaria declared war on the USSR. What is the date please?
  37. Bratyshka
    Bratyshka 11 November 2017 22: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    In Bulgaria, not a single Russian soldier died - why do we need this monument? All the same, the 44th did not liberate us, but got drunk in the communist dermis. FACT!
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  38. Bratyshka
    Bratyshka 11 November 2017 22: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    In Bulgaria, not a single Russian soldier died - why do we need this monument? All the same, the 44th did not liberate us, but got drunk in the communist dermis. FACT!
    What do you know about that Bulgaria? Socialist Bulgaria to say so? Well, that’s the result of our recent comments on the near-new generation
  39. pytar
    pytar 11 November 2017 23: 11 New
    +6
    Quote: Svateev
    Quote: pytar
    At the same time, 3 Bulgarian army, half a million soldiers fought on the side of the SC against the Wehrmacht! So fought so that with their own losses 32 thousand. managed to destroy 78-80 thousand. Germans! 360 soldiers and officers of the BGA were awarded Soviet orders, 120 of thousands of servicemen - with the medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of the 1941 — 1945 years." Look for info how many such salutes were there during the whole war? Commander-in-Chief of the 3-BGA, Gen. V. Stoychev took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square in 1. There he is right in the ranks of the III-Ukrainian Front!

    Thank you brother, recalled! And then all evil spirits climbed here on the site ...

    Yes, I already know by heart all their deses! As a carbon stamp stamped in all forums! Sometimes even spelling mistakes go to the same places there! lol The information war against Russia is underway! They hit Bulgaria, since the Bulgarians are the closest to the Russian people. No pasarán! stop
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  41. Eurodav
    Eurodav 11 November 2017 23: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: pytar
    In Bulgaria there are no Nazi monuments and burials.

    And it should not be! Here we are one with you! And they wrote something- Communism = Jewry ... It seems ... how to look ... Someone will argue with this? Of course you can’t write on pedestals, but ... for those who screamed about non-brotherhood ... I’ll say so the promise it’s not for us, but for black hats! Do you feel the difference? I write to them every day, while I’m alive, I will write to this tribe ... So our media were afraid to focus on the meaning of the inscription ... they were limited to “down” ... The chief editors / hosts - Izya / Moysha / Yeprst will not miss ...
  42. pytar
    pytar 12 November 2017 00: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: badens1111
    Quote: pytar
    When is Bulgaria

    It is time for you to understand ... your elite, since the last Russian-Turkish war, which gave you independence, is GERMAN, and by virtue of this., Always regardless of the people and their mood, you will be forced to be anti-Russian.

    We all understand that, but some people who write on the forum do not want to understand!
    You know ... when the Ottoman sacked Bulgaria, the first thing they did was cut out ALL who could lead the people to the fight! Boyars, riches and priests! And still rebellions regularly shoved! People’s governors / Haiduti in Bulgaria / led detachments in the mountains and avenged the Turks. We have been under Byzantine and Ottoman slavery for our 13 centuries of history, 7 centuries. The enemies didn’t have time to destroy us, no matter how hard they tried! Our people have this proverb: Do not extinguish thu scho not go out! (It is impossible to extinguish what is unquenchable!) The burden of freedom, always raised the Spirit of the Bulgarians and in the most difficult periods of our history. For centuries, we have found a hostile foreign medium in the crane; we have not forgotten either our Slavic language, our Slavic writing, or our Orthodoxy! It so happened that after our Liberation we did not have our noblemen. And the times were such that for the recognition of Bulgaria as a state, it must have had a Prince or Tsar with an appropriate origin! Our first prince by the will of Emperor the Liberator Alexander II was his nephew Alexander Batenberg! Batenberg was a true Bulgarian Prince, although he also did not have a Slavic origin. Ego people loved and respected! But he ruled all 7 years! He was forced to abdicate on the pressure of Nicholas III, who did not like anyone who was connected with Alexander II! The Bulgarians sent petitions and delegations to Nicholas III, with a request to give them for the Prince a Russian nobleman! They insisted especially on Count Ignatiev! Ego in Bulgaria idolized! But Nicholas III did not agree because of the palace intrigues and proposed for the Bulgarian throne a Georgian adventurer, to whom he had earlier sold his principality to Russia. Bulgarians considered UTB as an insult. They invited the Romanian Prince Carol I to unite the wallpaper of the state and become their common king. He participated in the Russian-Turkish war and fought at Plevna. But Nikolai again did not give consent. After much intrigue, Ferdinad Sax of Coburggot was placed on the Bulgarian throne. He later turned out to be the worst of the worst options, but who then could have imagined? As for the "anti-Russianism" of the Bulgarian ruling, it often had a basis and as a reaction to some controversial actions of the Russian authorities themselves. One way or another, we will deal with "our" authorities. Our problems and we will solve it.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 12 November 2017 18: 57 New
      0
      The question is simple. So what for do you constantly elect her in power?
      1. pytar
        pytar 12 November 2017 23: 04 New
        +3
        The question is simple. So what for do you constantly elect her in power?

        And the answer is simple! There is one such powerful structure across the ocean ... Everyone who has the potential is an object of interest in advance. Even if he goes into politics with good intentions, everyone has sins. And as soon as he "sits on the presidium," a folder is thrown at him. A person quickly enters into condition and does what he is told. Whatever one chooses, the same thing happens. Only the saint can rest! But the Saints do not meddle in politics! The politics are dirty, as my dead grandfather said. It and "yours" are not saints ... They just keep their folders somewhere in Moscow ... wink
    2. dubovitsckij.viktor
      dubovitsckij.viktor 12 November 2017 23: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: pytar
      Quote: badens1111
      Quote: pytar
      When is Bulgaria

      It is time for you to understand ... your elite, since the last Russian-Turkish war, which gave you independence, is GERMAN, and by virtue of this., Always regardless of the people and their mood, you will be forced to be anti-Russian.

      We all understand that, but some people who write on the forum do not want to understand!
      You know ... when the Ottoman sacked Bulgaria, the first thing they did was cut out ALL who could lead the people to the fight! Boyars, riches and priests! And still rebellions regularly shoved! People’s governors / Haiduti in Bulgaria / led detachments in the mountains and avenged the Turks. We have been under Byzantine and Ottoman slavery for our 13 centuries of history, 7 centuries. The enemies didn’t have time to destroy us, no matter how hard they tried! Our people have this proverb: Do not extinguish thu scho not go out! (It is impossible to extinguish what is unquenchable!) The burden of freedom, always raised the Spirit of the Bulgarians and in the most difficult periods of our history. For centuries, we have found a hostile foreign medium in the crane; we have not forgotten either our Slavic language, our Slavic writing, or our Orthodoxy! It so happened that after our Liberation we did not have our noblemen. And the times were such that for the recognition of Bulgaria as a state, it must have had a Prince or Tsar with an appropriate origin! Our first prince by the will of Emperor the Liberator Alexander II was his nephew Alexander Batenberg! Batenberg was a true Bulgarian Prince, although he also did not have a Slavic origin. Ego people loved and respected! But he ruled all 7 years! He was forced to abdicate on the pressure of Nicholas III, who did not like anyone who was connected with Alexander II! The Bulgarians sent petitions and delegations to Nicholas III, with a request to give them for the Prince a Russian nobleman! They insisted especially on Count Ignatiev! Ego in Bulgaria idolized! But Nicholas III did not agree because of the palace intrigues and proposed for the Bulgarian throne a Georgian adventurer, to whom he had earlier sold his principality to Russia. Bulgarians considered UTB as an insult. They invited the Romanian Prince Carol I to unite the wallpaper of the state and become their common king. He participated in the Russian-Turkish war and fought at Plevna. But Nikolai again did not give consent. After much intrigue, Ferdinad Sax of Coburggot was placed on the Bulgarian throne. He later turned out to be the worst of the worst options, but who then could have imagined? As for the "anti-Russianism" of the Bulgarian ruling, it often had a basis and as a reaction to some controversial actions of the Russian authorities themselves. One way or another, we will deal with "our" authorities. Our problems and we will solve it.

      You very vividly described the disasters of the Bulgarian people. It can be seen that the history and fate of Bulgaria is not a stranger to you. And against the backdrop of everything said, when you wrote about the people's resistance to the conquerors, you acknowledge that this brave people can not do anything with their own. What's the matter? Are you brave and freedom-loving when you are facing the abyss of destruction? And finally degenerated, turned into ..... (I won’t write a word so as not to offend) under Soviet patronage. They quickly and quickly changed their patron and did not notice that they stood next to a country that has been destroying you for hundreds of years.
      1. pytar
        pytar 13 November 2017 00: 47 New
        +3
        You very vividly described the disasters of the Bulgarian people.

        As all peoples, my people not only fell, but there are periods of sunrise and great insights! The fact that we are now texting letters created in Bulgaria is worth a lot!
        then this brave people can’t do anything with their own people.

        We can do with our own. But there are difficulties with those who have become “non-custom”. All peoples have such periods. The same can be said about the "abyss of destruction." There are many such examples in Russian history.
        And finally degenerated, turned into ..... (I won’t write a word so as not to offend) under Soviet patronage.

        There is a negative effect from half a century of dominance of this social system alien to us. But not so much that "it will finally degenerate, transform, etc.". These are again interpretations in your style. We have experienced a lot of things including “socialism”. We will survive those who again try to teach us "how to live."
        Quickly, quickly changed the patron

        Bulgaria is located at the crossroads of interests. We have our own interests. You here again change the cause with the consequence! Who changed whom? We were allies with the USSR! Who ruined everything ...? Who exchanged us for green money?
        that stood next to the country that destroyed you for hundreds of years.

        I know well not only the history of my country but also the history of Russia. It has many examples of alliances with evil enemies.
        1. dubovitsckij.viktor
          dubovitsckij.viktor 13 November 2017 16: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: pytar
          You very vividly described the disasters of the Bulgarian people.

          As all peoples, my people not only fell, but there are periods of sunrise and great insights! The fact that we are now texting letters created in Bulgaria is worth a lot!
          then this brave people can’t do anything with their own people.

          We can do with our own. But there are difficulties with those who have become “non-custom”. All peoples have such periods. The same can be said about the "abyss of destruction." There are many such examples in Russian history.
          And finally degenerated, turned into ..... (I won’t write a word so as not to offend) under Soviet patronage.

          There is a negative effect from half a century of dominance of this social system alien to us. But not so much that "it will finally degenerate, transform, etc.". These are again interpretations in your style. We have experienced a lot of things including “socialism”. We will survive those who again try to teach us "how to live."
          Quickly, quickly changed the patron

          Bulgaria is located at the crossroads of interests. We have our own interests. You here again change the cause with the consequence! Who changed whom? We were allies with the USSR! Who ruined everything ...? Who exchanged us for green money?
          that stood next to the country that destroyed you for hundreds of years.

          I know well not only the history of my country but also the history of Russia. It has many examples of alliances with evil enemies.

          We use letters that differ little from the runes of pre-Christian Russia.
          http://socialp.ru/slavyanskie-runy-znachenie-opis
          anie-i-ih-tolkovanie /
          And if we assume that the scientists are right, saying that all Slavic languages ​​belong to the Indo-European group of languages, it means that it is completely unknown who borrowed the language, written language and everything else from whom.
          Cyril and Methodius modified the graphics. But not the language. For language is primary, and writing is secondary.
          1. pytar
            pytar 13 November 2017 17: 55 New
            +4
            Mr. Dubovsky, what and how modified Cyril and Methodius is debatable, but aboutnor the creators of GLAGOLITS! And we are writing in Cyrillic! She created disciples of Cyril (Contantin-Cyril the Philosopher) and Methodius, led by Clement of Ohrid! The creator of Cyrilitsa rightfully considers this ego! They worked in the capital of Bulgaria, Preslav in the so-called Preslav book school under the auspices of the Bulgarian Prince Boris I! The one who baptized the Bulgarians in Christianity! Clement of Ohrid called our alphabet of Cyrillic, in honor of his teacher Konstantin-Kirril the Philosopher! Compare the Cyrillic alphabet with runes! What are the runes here? You have complete confusion about these issues. Something I was already bored. no
  43. pytar
    pytar 12 November 2017 00: 12 New
    +5
    Quote: badens1111
    Quote: pytar
    The descendants of those hundreds of thousands of Bulgarian soldiers who fought against Nazi Germany are now guarding Soviet monuments in Bulgaria! And if necessary they will stand like a human shield!

    This is not refuted.
    Now the question is who, what forces in Bulgaria always spit on Alyosha’s monument, if not those whom I said: Bulgarian Legion

    Monuments spit on the same forces that, here on the forum they spit on the Bulgarians as a people! With one place they pulled the ropes!
  44. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 12 November 2017 09: 12 New
    +2
    Moral freaks poisoned by American propaganda are enough everywhere, they are in Russia. The matter is the position of the authorities: they will be given a specific term with imprisonment for an act of vandalism or limited to a declaration of concern.
    1. pytar
      pytar 12 November 2017 13: 08 New
      +4
      While the performers are unidentified, it’s too early to say whose business this provocation is. The problem is that with such violations, it is very difficult for the investigation to establish who did it. Even surveillance cameras here will help little. It’s enough for the performer to put on a hood and that’s all ... It is strong ... the figure is dark ... Case for 3 minutes into the darkness of night. request And it is impossible to guard and monitor around the clock around all 130 Soviet monuments. sad
  45. verner1967
    verner1967 12 November 2017 12: 34 New
    +3
    Quote: badens1111
    I'm tired of commenting.
    oh well, tell me that the arguments have run out, but there are no others, I understand wink
  46. verner1967
    verner1967 12 November 2017 12: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    they were part of the "fascist coalition" and at that point ...
    From September 17, 1939 to June 22, 1941, the USSR was also part of the fascist coalition, so what, let’s put the point too?
    1. faiver
      faiver 12 November 2017 13: 11 New
      +2
      Was the USSR an ally of the Third Reich? do not write nonsense ...
      1. verner1967
        verner1967 12 November 2017 13: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: faiver
        Was the USSR an ally of the Third Reich?

        But how to explain the relations of the USSR with the Third Reich at that time?
        1. faiver
          faiver 12 November 2017 13: 32 New
          +1
          read the definition of the term "ally" ..., non-aggression pact, trade agreements are standard relationships between different states ...
          1. verner1967
            verner1967 12 November 2017 19: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: faiver
            trade agreements are standard relationships between different states ...

            during the Second World War, how did the Union states trade with the MPR and Tuva, how are the relations between the USSR and Germany different? Moreover, Poland was divided by mutual agreement, parts of Finland and Romania, the Baltic states were also occupied by agreement with Germany. Allies are not only militarily.
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        3. zoolu350
          zoolu350 12 November 2017 15: 37 New
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          The usual relations between states that are not at war with each other and no more.
          1. verner1967
            verner1967 12 November 2017 19: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: zoolu350
            The usual relations between states that are not at war with each other and no more.

            The USSR also did not fight with Japan and there was a nonaggression pact, but for some reason it did not trade, moreover, Japan drowned and detained vessels flying the red flag, why should it?
            1. faiver
              faiver 12 November 2017 20: 54 New
              +1
              Conflicts on Hassan, Khalkhin Gol do not take into account? At the same time, you can recall the Japanese concessions on northern Sakhalin that work until 1944. hi
              1. verner1967
                verner1967 13 November 2017 18: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: faiver
                Conflicts on Hassan, Khalkhin Gol do not take into account?

                it only confirms what I wanted to say about
                Quote: zoolu350
                Common relations between non-warring states
                wink
  47. Maksim
    Maksim 12 November 2017 18: 48 New
    +3
    dubovitsckij.viktor,
    Dear, why on earth do you demand fidelity from the Bulgarians? Or any whim of the Russian Federation must be accepted unconditionally.
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      1. Maksim
        Maksim 13 November 2017 18: 25 New
        +3
        Dear, how-you-there, you are a complete boor and I send complaints to administrators with displeasure.
  48. Maksim
    Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 00 New
    +2
    badens1111,
    So your emperors after Peter I are also very often Germans rather than Russians. And what - did it matter?
  49. Maksim
    Maksim 12 November 2017 19: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: dubovitsckij.viktor
    Quote: pytar
    In Bulgaria there are no Nazi monuments and burials.

    Through time, WILL. Look at the Ukrainians. You are going the same way.


    Where did the Nazis get something to bury? Although I look at the level of your knowledge, even bury the Martians ...
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