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Common Sense We Have Lost

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Очень грустно в годовщину Великой Октябрьской социалистической революции отмечать, что сусальные сказки о превосходстве царской России над СССР стали официальными идеологемами. Это печалит и тех, кто не являются даже близко поклонниками большевиков – просто искажение historical фактов и откровенная ложь удручает научное сообщество, да и многих рядовых граждан. А ведь, между тем, сохранилась масса документов, воспоминаний и статистических данных, которые могут привести в чувства монархистов.


Scientist and economist, professor of international finance at MGIMO Valentin Katasonov assures that many of today's assessments of the economic situation of the Russian Empire distort the real situation, and on the eve of the First World War and the 1917 revolution, it was already quite difficult.

"Outwardly, everything seemed to be decent enough. But, you know, after all, any national economy can be thought of as the economy of a large company that has its assets and its liabilities. It seems that the assets were large - these are factories, mines, railways, trading network, ports, etc. But the fact is that there are liabilities - these are debt obligations on loans, on investments, that is, this kind of external well-being was achieved at the cost of making us more dependent on Western investors and western lenders ".

If we talk about numbers, on the eve of World War I, the debt of the Russian Empire was more than 10 billion gold rubles, during the war we were actively taking loans, and by 1920 year (along with interest) the debt reached 18,5 billion gold.

"As for the assets of this" company "called the Russian Empire, then, relatively speaking, these assets were very peculiar - mainly they were enterprises of the raw materials sector of the economy or enterprises for the primary processing of raw materials," said Valentin Katasonov. "This is coal mining, smelting steel and iron, this is oil production and some kind of oil refining, but to a lesser extent. There were, of course, elements of the processing enterprises, but on the whole, of course, such a skewed structure of the economy was conspicuous. "

Industry

However, today the idea is officially broadcast that industrialization began under Nicholas II. On the prevalence of foreign capital in the industry of the Russian Empire On the eve.RU wrote earlier.

“They understood that Russia was lagging behind the West, understood that Russia needed industrialization, although even the word was not used. The word“ industrialization ”was first sounded at the Bolshevik Party’s plenum in December 1925, and before that it was called in other words - they said that accelerated industrial development is needed, the same finance minister Sergei Witte spoke about this, "says Valentin Katasonov.

Common Sense We Have Lost


But Witte had in mind a qualitatively different "industrialization" - not the one that would become the basis for a powerful state, because it will be carried out at the expense of foreign capital.

"Foreign capital does not need the Russian Empire to have manufacturing enterprises that compete with the enterprises of Germany, France, the United States. That is, it was such a one-sided" industrialization ", a dependent type of economic development. Therefore, what can be said about all these distortions, about the "industrialization of the era of Nicholas II" - there was no industrialization. It was unhealthy development. Unhealthy, one-sided development of the economy in the interests of foreign capital, "- says doctor of economics Valentin atasonov.

The situation in the village

In the Russian Empire, 80% was occupied by peasants. And in the traditional, pre-industrial society, the peasantry always constitutes the overwhelming majority of the population. The number of peasantry in the country did not decrease - where is your praised "industrialization"?

The position of the peasants was not just bad, it was rapidly deteriorating. The community divided allotments on foodstuffs, which led to rapid population growth at the turn of the century and agrarian overpopulation at the beginning of the 20 century. More than half of the peasants had put on "below the subsistence minimum", that is, hunger was a permanent state of a significant part of the country.

Finance Minister Bunge wrote: "When the population grew, the land allocated was insufficient to feed the peasants and to deliver funds to them in paying taxes ... But when crop failures joined this ... then the position of the peasants in whole counties and even provinces became disastrous ...".



The reforms that Witte tried to introduce would delay the collapse, but would not cancel the catastrophe. The peasants did not have stabilizing grain reserves, so any crop failure led to famine. Many classics also wrote about the situation in the Russian countryside. Let us turn to the mastodon of Russian literature and social thought of the beginning of the century — to Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy, he described his trip to different counties in the following way:



"The food consists of grass groves, whitened if there is a cow, and unbleached, if it is not present - and only bread. In all these villages, most of them sell and put all that can be sold and mortgaged. There are four horses and four horses on ten yards cows, almost no sheep, everyone is so old and bad at home that they barely stand. Everyone is poor and everyone is begging to help them. "If only the children have had a little rest," say the women. "And then they ask for folders (bread), but I have nothing to give, and it will not fall asleep for dinner "(...) I asked to exchange three rubles for me. There was not a ruble of money in the whole village. Besides t Go landless soldiers' children live in this village.The whole settlement of these inhabitants has no land and is always poor, now it’s with expensive bread and with a scanty supply of alms in terrible, terrible poverty. From the hut near which we stopped, a tattered dirty woman came out and She came up to a handful of something lying on the pasture and covered with a caftan torn and set off everywhere. This is one of her 5 children. A three-year-old girl is sick in a very hot heat with something like Influenza. Not that there is no talk of treatment, but no other food than the crusts of bread that the mother brought yesterday, leaving the children behind and running off with a bag of extortion. The husband of this woman left in the spring and did not return. These are approximately many of these families. "

The classic saw the problems of the Russian people and gave the reasons: poor earth — because half of the land remained with the landowners or was overbought by the rich; against laws that protect more factory owners and capitalist mechanisms than workers themselves; from vodka, to which peasants have been taught for years, because it constitutes the main income of the state; from the military system of the "soldiery" - taking young people healthy, young, but returning corrupted, old, sick. What else? Officials, tribute. What are these troubles? "From ignorance, in which he (the people) consciously support government and church schools," Tolstoy wrote at the beginning of the century.



Modern defenders of the empire write that, thanks to the reforms of Alexander II and the policies of Alexander III, the unprecedented rise of the Russian economy began in 1890's. Customs tariffs gave an inflow of foreign capital to organize production. The growth rate of the Russian economy over a quarter of a century exceeded that of all other developed countries. Agriculture on the eve of the revolution also showed a marked increase: only in 1908-1912 years, compared with the previous five-year period, has wheat production increased by 37,5%, and Russia became the main world exporter of grain.

Indeed, 1913 was the largest crop in the history of pre-revolutionary Russia, but this event did not cancel the famine. Starving in Yakutia and the surrounding territories (while the grain was exported abroad), hunger did not stop there at all from 1911 of the year. Local and central authorities were practically not interested in helping the hungry. The villages died out completely.

If you look at the numbers, then even the postulate that the Russian Empire "fed the whole of Europe" is doubtful, and our oil and eggs were filled up abroad. In this successful 1913 year, the Russian Empire exported 530 million poods of all grains, which amounted to only 6,3% of European countries (8,34 billion pounds). And where are we fed "all of Europe"? But such testimonies about the "world grain exporter" were left by witnesses - in particular, journalist and writer Viktor Korolenko:

"I know many cases when several families joined together, chose some old woman, together supplied her with the last crumbs, gave her children, while they themselves wandered into the distance, where their eyes were looking, with anguish of uncertainty about the guys left ... the stocks are disappearing in the population, - family after family goes to this mournful road ... Dozens of families joined spontaneously into crowds, which were driven to the main roads, fright and despair, to villages and cities. (...) Figures that are truly intimidating. In autumn, before the loan starts issuing, again whole clouds so x is hungry and the same frightened people out of destitute villages ...

When the loan came to an end, poverty became stronger among these fluctuations and became more and more common. The family that served yesterday, today went out with its bag itself. I had a hope that when I succeed in announcing all this, when I loudly tell the whole of Russia how, in Lukoyanov itself, a little girl asks her mother to "bury her living in the country house", then perhaps my articles will be able to render at least some influence on the fate of these Dubrovki, putting the question of the need for land reform, even at the very least modest at the beginning. "

To stop the flight of the poor from the villages, the authorities introduced troops and Cossacks, who blocked the way of the starving. Anyone who had a passport could leave the village in the free Russian empire, but not everyone had it. The document was issued only for a certain period, and after it expired, the person was considered a vagabond, and he could be beaten with sticks, put in prison or sent for expulsion.



When we are told today about a staggering export of bread, they forget to say that the tsarist government took confiscation measures - not only surpluses were withdrawn - but the peasants tried to hide the bread for themselves in order to escape from starvation in the winter. Sheltered zealously, because the future export of the world leader in the export of grain extracted by force. 1% of elitarians shared effective export revenues, effective managers — families of landowners close to the courtyard, small crumbs of industry (mainly they built railways to export more grain as far as possible), and you say industrialization ... Maybe it was all over the world? No, here are the data that the Academy gives geopolitical problems in its report.

The French, for example, consumed more grain in 1,6 than Russian peasants. And this is in a climate where grapes and palm trees grow. If, in a numerical dimension, the Frenchman ate 33,6 pounds of grain per year, producing 30,4 pounds and importing more 3,2 pounds per person. The German consumed 27,8 pounds, producing 24,2, only in the dysfunctional Austria-Hungary, which lived to the last years, the consumption of cereals was 23,8 pounds per capita.

The Russian peasant consumed meat by half as much as in Denmark, and seven to eight times less than in France. Milk Russian peasants drank in 2,5 times less than the Dane, and in 1,3 times less than the Frenchman.

The Russian peasant ate eggs in as much as 2,7 (!) G per day, while the Danish peasant eaten 30 g, and the French ate 70,2 g per day.

Another thing is that our contemporary is lazy to look at evidence from open sources, believes in the word that it is pleasant to believe in - about paradise in the Russian Empire. Yes - the tsarist advocates agree with us and explain for general development - the main branch of the Russian economy was agriculture, which gave 55,7% of income: "But apart from the" progressive "development criteria, it was also a considerable advantage, because the peasant way of life was more orthodox than industrial-urban. "

This is how this "more orthodox" way of life is described by a chemist and agronomist Alexander Engelhardt, he lived and worked in the village, leaving to descendants a fundamental study of the reality of the Russian village - "Letters from the village":

"Anyone who knows the village, who knows the situation and the life of the peasants, does not need statistical data and calculations to know that we sell bread abroad not from an excess ... In a person from the intelligent class, such a doubt is understandable, because they simply can not believe how is it that people live without eating? And meanwhile, it really is. Not that they didn’t eat at all, but were undernourished, live from hand to mouth, fed on all sorts of rubbish. We send good wheat rye abroad, to will not have any rubbish ... Our peasant-farmer is not x ataet wheat bread on a pacifier child pozhuet woman rye crust that she eats, put in a rag - suck. "



While the Russian tsar practiced shooting at the ravens, the ministers hoped to blind the laws on primary education, and 1% of the country's population crunched a French bun, February tried to prevent a social rebellion, a peasant war, which had been apprehended when reading reports on the state of affairs in the village future future workers.

After the storming of the Winter a hundred years ago, the first decisions of the Bolsheviks were the "Decree on Peace" and the "Decree on Land". The new government announced the nationalization of "land, mineral resources, water and forests."

"Russia was pregnant with a revolution, it is no coincidence that several years before his death, Leo Tolstoy wrote in his diary that he had a dream - in Russia there was a revolution not against private property, but against property in general," historian Andrei Fursov said in an interview with Nakanune.RU. - Well, that’s what happened, that’s why Lenin at one time called Leo Tolstoy a mirror of the Russian revolution. "
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  1. solzh
    solzh 12 November 2017 20: 22 New
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    The word "industrialization" was first spoken at the plenum of the Bolshevik Party in December 1925, and before that it was called in other words - they said that accelerated industrial development was necessary, the same Minister of Finance Sergey Witte talked about this "

    Everyone and everyone could speak. But only the Bolsheviks were able to move from words to real industrial development. It is a pity that today in Russia we have the same Bolsheviks as in the 20-30s of the 20th century. In our country, politicians again, as in Witte’s time, can only engage in talking. Over the 32 years since 1985, we have been building everything, rebuilding something, developing it is not clear what, and the people of Russia are all impoverished and impoverished. Although the salary in the country is growing and growing, so says our government ...
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 13 November 2017 07: 33 New
      12
      I still remember the words of my grandmother, who was born in the 19th century, and who lived all her life in the village, who she, already very old, told me with tears in her eyes when I first came home in a pioneer tie (accepted as a pioneer): “What a happy granddaughter you are that you don’t know what it means to WORK FOR THE OWNER” .... And then I did not understand at all what she had in mind. Many years later. That country is no longer there and had to go through a lot and go through a lot, like every ordinary resident of the former USSR. And now, only now, I was able to understand those words of my grandmother and now I know very well what “WORK FOR THE OWNER” is.
      1. tomket
        tomket 13 November 2017 10: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        And now, only now, I was able to understand those words of my grandmother and now I know very well what “WORK FOR THE OWNER” is.

        Well, now we have freedom and grace. You can work seven days a week, you can work 12-16 hours a day, you can work without holidays. You can choose any owner for yourself. Paradise and only.
        1. Rey_ka
          Rey_ka 14 November 2017 12: 18 New
          0
          In psychology, it is so inherent in a person (no longer sounds proudly) that he learns only from his own mistakes and begins to appreciate only when you lose
    2. Vend
      Vend 13 November 2017 10: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: solzh
      It is a pity that today in Russia we have the same Bolsheviks as in the 20-30 years of the 20 century. .

      He wanted blood again. Not yet drunk Russian krovushki, not enough for you. In general, these moans are already beginning to bore. Some moan about the Russia we lost, others moan about the loss of common sense. Both are guilty of their own losses.
      1. rumatam
        rumatam 13 November 2017 19: 29 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s yours, and those like you, to give so that Yushka would drip. Nothing can people realize that all rich can not live.
        1. Vend
          Vend 14 November 2017 09: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: rumatam
          Yes, it’s yours, and those like you, to give so that Yushka would drip. Nothing can people realize that all rich can not live.

          But who would doubt, vampires no difference, if only blood. The culture in you is not enough even for a polite treatment. Nothing in life has been achieved, so at least in the bloody years to plunder. But this will not happen, do not even dream.
          1. free
            free 10 March 2018 11: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: rumatam
            Yes, it’s yours, and those like you, to give so that Yushka would drip. Nothing can people realize that all rich can not live.

            But who would doubt, vampires no difference, if only blood. The culture in you is not enough even for a polite treatment. Nothing in life has been achieved, so at least in the bloody years to plunder. But this will not happen, do not even dream.

            Explain your ghouls on who is this?
    3. free
      free 10 March 2018 11: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      The word "industrialization" was first spoken at the plenum of the Bolshevik Party in December 1925, and before that it was called in other words - they said that accelerated industrial development was necessary, the same Minister of Finance Sergey Witte talked about this "

      Everyone and everyone could speak. But only the Bolsheviks were able to move from words to real industrial development. It is a pity that today in Russia we have the same Bolsheviks as in the 20-30s of the 20th century. In our country, politicians again, as in Witte’s time, can only engage in talking. Over the 32 years since 1985, we have been building everything, rebuilding something, developing it is not clear what, and the people of Russia are all impoverished and impoverished. Although the salary in the country is growing and growing, so says our government ...

      And Russia is again pregnant with the revolution, and the enemy is at the gates, and power is not blowing in the mustache again.
  2. Ural resident
    Ural resident 12 November 2017 20: 55 New
    +6
    "It is very sad on the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution to note that the leafy tales of the superiority of tsarist Russia over the USSR became official ideologues"
    It is very sad to note that before the Great Revolution, nonhumans lived, but the Bolsheviks brought light to black civilization.
    Calm down already. both of these are our way. It could not be otherwise. I would advise everyone who ever ordered from any side to destroy their own kind in our country to reveal and anathema and oblivion. for no matter how hard it was to live - to shoot at one’s compatriot is a crime. And the ideologues have nothing to do with it.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 13 November 2017 06: 40 New
      +7
      Well, well.
      In the RUSSIAN EMPIRE there was a slave trade, it allowed slave owners to hold brilliant balls, maintain palaces. The abolition of serfdom ruined many of the former slave owners, the main source of income disappeared. That's just * liberation * occurred with the robbery of peasants. Redemption payments not only enslaved and secured the peasants from the * employer *, they allowed * legally * to seize grain, cattle, in general everything that was valuable, and this, without war and other shocks, hunger and epidemics are not considered for shocks.
      The hunger riots were constant and pacified by everyone, from the collective flogging of all peasants to the execution and hanging of those appointed guilty. Discussions about evolutionary development are good in a soft chair and with three meals a day. That's when your children are hungry and graze the last grain from the barn, and the last cattle is taken from the yard to talk about * future well-being * meanly.
      In February 1917, a coup was made by those who did not see the development of RUSSIA without colonization and division into * zones of occupation * with subsequent colonization. In such circumstances, the peacefulness of the colonialists and their minions?
      For some reason, none of the * peacekeepers * wants to try on either hunger, lawlessness, or * peace * from the masters. For some reason, events are viewed only from the point of view of idealism and personal well-being.
      1. long in stock.
        long in stock. 13 November 2017 07: 58 New
        +4
        because they do not consider themselves to be a vile class. have you really not understood that for such personalities the people are they — the rest are cattle that should serve them in every way ..that they don’t see another .im it’s just not necessary.
    2. tomket
      tomket 13 November 2017 10: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      It could not be otherwise.

      From what? It could have been.
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      I would advise everyone who ever ordered from any side to destroy their own kind in our country to reveal and anathema and oblivion.

      So forgive me, the peasant did not want to destroy the peasant. But the different landowners and lords were for the peasant as aliens.
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      for no matter how hard it was to live - shooting at your compatriot is a crime

      And sitting on the neck of the people is not a crime? But to starve to death doom your people is not a crime? Are you one of those who like crunchy french fries?
  3. cedar
    cedar 12 November 2017 21: 19 New
    +9
    What kind of leaf tales does the author mention? Until the year 17, Russia was full of unsolved problems, but they could very well have been resolved without revolution and civil war. Another thing is that the development potential of Russia was dangerous for the nations competing with it, primarily the Anglo-Saxon ... As a dangerous competitor, RI was eventually destroyed. Power over resources has been seized by agents of world banking capital, this major revolutionary enzyme on this planet.
    It is still not clear who in this "worker-peasant" government who was. Probably still Bronstein is a worker who was preparing to throw Russia into the furnace of world relativity, and Blanck was a peasant, and in fact a separatist who gave sovereignty to all who longed for freedom, equality and fraternity ... Thus, the first workers 'and peasants' government did not start its activity with industrialization, and from separatism - "Alya EBN ..., take sovereignty, whoever can as much ..."
    Industrialization began only when the revolutionaries internationalists, with their ideas of world revolution, were replaced by nationalist Bolsheviks, led by Stalin. With their ideas of building socialism in one country. This was the victory of common sense, which consisted in the supremacy of state capitalism based on developed industry over private banking based on bonded, court interest. The revenge, which in modern Russia, is more than obvious against the background of a ruined industry and a society and business entangled in debt. Such is the price for us today for the loss of common sense and common ideology for the development of the state and society.
    1. Rastas
      Rastas 12 November 2017 22: 53 New
      10
      Once again, you begin to drive nonsense about the alleged nationalist Stalin, who destroyed all the Leninist revolutionaries. The truth then he should have finished himself, for he constantly referred to Lenin. And about "firewood in the furnace of the world revolution" is not enough to lie already? You can have a negative attitude towards Trotsky, but indicate in which source you found such a phrase. He left behind himself compositions, letters, but this phrase is not found anywhere. Moreover, in the 3-volume History of the Russian Revolution, at the end of Volume 3, Trotsky indicated why the world revolution was needed. just because surrounded by a cap. countries of a young, non-industrial country of the Soviets can not stand. It will be destroyed either by external aggression, or they will act through the decomposition of the elite. And what kind of competitor was RI for England. RI was a country of semi-peripheral capitalism, with the bourgeois class entirely dependent on the West. England then should have organized a revolution in the USA, which was becoming a leader.
    2. badens1111
      badens1111 12 November 2017 23: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: cedar
      Until the year 17, Russia was full of unsolved problems, but they could very well have been resolved without revolution and civil war.

      The destruction of Russian statehood occurred in February, and not in October 1917, said Vyacheslav Nikonov, chairman of the State Duma’s Committee on Education and Science, doctor of historical sciences, November 7, during the presentation of his new book October 1917 on the Russia Today television channel.
      The scientist noted that the Provisional Government could not remain in power due to the fact that, on the one hand, it destroyed all existing state institutions and statehood as such, and on the other, did not offer anything in return. “The interim government fell because of ideological barrenness,” Nikonov said. “Actually, the whole ideology was formulated in one word - to bring the country to the constituent assembly, continuing the war.” Https: //cont.ws/@lapsha71/766276
    3. tomket
      tomket 13 November 2017 10: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: cedar
      What kind of leaf tales does the author mention?

      So it seems that not the author talks about what a wonderful place for the peasant Tsarist Russia was.
      Quote: cedar
      but they could very well have been resolved without revolution and civil war.

      Without a revolution, doubtful. Without a civil war, well, here we have several classes of society who wanted to maintain the status quo. By the way, do not remind, with what civil began?
      Quote: cedar
      Power over resources was seized by agents of world banking capital

      Yeah, the Masonic reptilians.
    4. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 14 November 2017 12: 16 New
      0
      but they could well have been resolved without revolution and civil war

      Just something voluntarily no one wanted to solve these problems. it’s just like the Decembrists in words all cared about the people and no one from the serfs has not let go of any soul! Unlike the murdered by them Miloradovich
  4. mavrus
    mavrus 13 November 2017 00: 01 New
    +7
    Quote: A resident of the Urals
    "It is very sad on the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution to note that the leafy tales of the superiority of tsarist Russia over the USSR became official ideologues"
    It is very sad to note that before the Great Revolution, nonhumans lived, but the Bolsheviks brought light to black civilization.
    Calm down already. both of these are our way. It could not be otherwise. I would advise everyone who ever ordered from any side to destroy their own kind in our country to reveal and anathema and oblivion. for no matter how hard it was to live - to shoot at one’s compatriot is a crime. And the ideologues have nothing to do with it.

    Now let's start from '93 and let's start ... Or, in your opinion, can you shoot compatriots from tank guns?
    In Donbass, they also thought that it was impossible ... Some were even indignant when they got ONE ONE, with chains and a Molotov cocktail, in the hands of a baton in the ass, and for that, maydaunas do not suffer from sentimentality in Odessa or in Donbass .. .
  5. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 13 November 2017 03: 17 New
    +3
    Nothing much has changed in 100 years, with which we started and came to that. Industrialization - foreigners are actively investing in extractive industries but not in high-tech ones. Russia is still a raw materials appendage. The main financial assets belong to 1% of the population. Etc. , probably among the peasants as that life has changed I do not argue.
    1. tomket
      tomket 13 November 2017 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      Etc. , probably among the peasants as that life has changed I do not argue.

      Well yes. They are practically gone.
    2. free
      free 10 March 2018 11: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      Nothing much has changed in 100 years, with which we started and came to that. Industrialization - foreigners are actively investing in extractive industries but not in high-tech ones. Russia is still a raw materials appendage. The main financial assets belong to 1% of the population. Etc. , probably among the peasants as that life has changed I do not argue.

      Only not as before, but again. There was a time when Russia was not a raw materials appendage.
  6. Eurodav
    Eurodav 13 November 2017 05: 03 New
    +5
    Quote: Rastas
    Once again, you begin to drive nonsense about the alleged nationalist Stalin, who destroyed all the Leninist revolutionaries. The truth then he should have finished himself, for he constantly referred to Lenin. And about "firewood in the furnace of the world revolution" is not enough to lie already? You can have a negative attitude towards Trotsky, but indicate in which source you found such a phrase. He left behind himself compositions, letters, but this phrase is not found anywhere. Moreover, in the 3-volume History of the Russian Revolution, at the end of Volume 3, Trotsky indicated why the world revolution was needed. just because surrounded by a cap. countries of a young, non-industrial country of the Soviets can not stand. It will be destroyed either by external aggression, or they will act through the decomposition of the elite. And what kind of competitor was RI for England. RI was a country of semi-peripheral capitalism, with the bourgeois class entirely dependent on the West. England then should have organized a revolution in the USA, which was becoming a leader.

    Trotsky’s defender formed? How do you like this pearl?
    Aron Simanovich, personal secretary of Grigory Rasputin testifies in his book "Memoirs":
    "Leiba Davidovich Trotsky, who was striving for the collapse of the greatest power in the world - Russia, said about this: We must turn it (Russia) into a desert inhabited by white negroes, whom we will give such tyranny that we have never dreamed of the most terrible despots of the East ... This tyranny will not be on the right, but on the left and not white, but red, for we will shed such streams of blood before which all the losses of capitalist wars will shudder and turn pale ... The largest bankers from across the ocean will work in close contact with us. If we win the revolution if we crush Russia, we will strengthen the power of Zionism on its debris and become such a force that the whole world will kneel down. We will show what real power is. By terror, bloody baths, we will bring the Russian intelligentsia to complete dullness, to idiocy, to animal state ... In the meantime, our young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa, - oh, how wonderful, how delightful they know how to hate everything Russian! With what pleasure they will physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia - officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academics, writers !. "
    This is me to the question of crap ...
    1. Rastas
      Rastas 13 November 2017 20: 01 New
      +1
      How Simanovich can "testify" about a person he is personally unfamiliar with. So the credibility of his words is no more than a grandmother in the market. And in general it is impossible to be so gullible.
    2. Rastas
      Rastas 13 November 2017 20: 08 New
      +1
      And in general, is it a sign of the Russian Natsik to draw similar quotes from pro-fascist newspapers of the Russian emigration? The quote you quoted was published in the pro-fascist newspaper Our Way.
  7. A.V.S.
    A.V.S. 13 November 2017 11: 59 New
    +2
    There was no industrialization in Russia .... There was only the Trans-Siberian Railway, built over 10 years (how many communists suffered with BAM?), There were automobile factories Dux, RussoBalt .... There was an aircraft industry, battleships were created at Russian shipyards (comrade Dzhugashvili did not he was able to build 1). The oil industry was created from scratch, and Russia has been trading in steel and cast iron since the 18th century. The year of maximum development of Russia is 1916 (during the war!), and the level of 1913 of the USSR was only surpassed by 1939. Redemption payments of peasants were canceled in 1905, most of the arable land the land belonged to the peasants looted the estates and when it became clear that the average allotment increased by only 15-16%.
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 13 November 2017 18: 04 New
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      yes calm down you. your intellect has already been evaluated. as well as knowledge of the material and statistics .. the Russo-Balt plant has produced about 600 autos for its entire existence for 7 years .. I don’t remember the Duks factory yet, but even less is for sure .. .Amo factory under the tsar only screwdriver assembly .. for the Bolsheviks from 1925-31 made almost 7000 cars ... feel the difference ... about the battleships, keep quiet. you don’t even know why you didn’t finish building .... but what talking to you ... not the head but the bin ... the payments were canceled with fear - in the fall of 1905 the peasant movement covered more than half of E European Russia, almost all regions of landlord tenure. In total, in 1905, 3228 peasant uprisings were recorded, in 1906 - 2600, in 1907 - 1337. where would they go ... in general, dear, a monk who does not know Latin, go and study ... do not just read anti-sovietism read and at least thoughtfully .. but by golly argue with you as with a kindergarten ....
      1. A.V.S.
        A.V.S. 13 November 2017 18: 39 New
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        Quote: long in stock.
        your intelligence is already rated

        and I am in general with admiration from your intellect: factories were, and there was no industrialization ... They made thousands of cars - some rubbish ... There was airplane manufacturing, but there was no industrialization ... Battleships were built, but why the USSR battleships? Battleships are needed by underdeveloped countries like the USA and Japan .... redemption payments were canceled in a fright, so they lived in fright before 1917. Take the example from the USSR: the extra surplus was canceled not from fear, but from great power !!![/ I] Steam locomotive O ("Main") - The first steam locomotive, which became the main one in the locomotive fleet of Russian railways. In the period from 1890 to 1915 on twelve steam engine plants more than 9 thousand locomotives of this series were manufactured,
        1. long in stock.
          long in stock. 13 November 2017 21: 38 New
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          you are stupid ... the linkors became unnecessary after a raid on the taranto .. when the aircraft carrier proved that it is now striking force ... and there’s no point in building them .. for cars, you google .. I understand that you haven’t even read about it once ... industrialization was not only in your inflamed brain, I never said that. we read it carefully .. the surplus was canceled when we were able to saturate agriculture with fertilizers and breeding material, go ahead for knowledge. how many breeding agricultural plants under the tsar and how many with the Bolsheviks- to you again in google.pro I wasn’t hired to broadcast mediocrity. locomotives - 9 thousand ... and then by the year 16 transport collapse. all front commanders send telegrams — no shells, no food — there is nothing to drive in the rear ... hunger riots in Moscow and St. Petersburg -the bread can’t be brought .. for your information, the Bolsheviks managed to release 24 tractors Fordzon Putilovets from 33 to 36 years old. not counting the rest. and with the tsar -000.o how did the peasants bloody regime ... specifically set up so much that Siberia could be taken out by all ... your knowledge is so superficial that it’s even necessary to laugh at you ota ... but I don’t feel sorry either .. but for the steam engine, read. author-Rakov, Vitaliy Aleksandrovich. probably the most authoritative expert on everything that traveled on our roads .. maybe then you will understand how the steam engine of the series ov differs from the series fd .. and then they blurted out the figure, but you don’t know about anything ...
          1. A.V.S.
            A.V.S. 14 November 2017 15: 39 New
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            Quote: long in senility.
            .linkers became unnecessary after a raid on the taranto ..
            And people didn’t know !!!
            The battle at Leyte Gulf is the largest naval battle in history. Occurred in the seas surrounding the Philippine island of Leyte from October 23 to 26, 1944 between the American fleet (10 battleships) and the Japanese imperial fleet (9 battleships).This they did not consult with the genius Dzhugashvili! The greatest Dzhugashvili, the tsarist built locomotives even used in World War II, because Soviet locomotives were protected.
    2. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 14 November 2017 12: 48 New
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      and the level of 1913 of the USSR was able to surpass only by 1939
      . i.e. a period of 26 years. Despite the fact that during the years of the Civil War, in principle, it went to 0 or lower. our identity has now passed almost the same period and have not yet caught up with the USSR, although it seems that none of the republics is in the way. Did they interfere?
  8. voenpension
    voenpension 13 November 2017 21: 54 New
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    “Indeed, in 1913 there was the largest crop in the history of pre-revolutionary Russia, but this event did not cancel the famine. Starving in Yakutia and the surrounding territories (while the grain was exported abroad), there hunger has not ceased at all since 1911. Local and central authorities were practically not interested in helping the hungry. The villages have died out completely. ”
    But during the Soviet era there was no famine, and the government was tearing away for the people? And the riots were not suppressed by "fire and sword" in the 20-30s, in 1961?
    “In this successful 1913, the Russian Empire exported 530 million pounds of all grain, which amounted to only 6,3% of European countries' consumption (8,34 billion pounds). And where did we feed "all of Europe"? "
    Only all the time the Soviet government itself compared everything and everything with 1913. Is it strange or not?
    “Anyone who had a passport could leave the village in the free Russian Empire, but not everyone had it. The document was issued only for a certain period of time, and upon its expiration the person was considered a vagabond, and he could be beaten with sticks, sent to prison or sent to expulsion. ”
    I modestly recall that passports were issued to Soviet peasants in 1974.
    “When today we are told about the breathtaking export of bread, they forget to say that the tsarist government took confiscation measures - not only surpluses were seized - but the peasants tried to shelter the bread for themselves in order to save themselves from starvation in the winter. They hid it zealously, because the future leader in the export of grain mined for future exports by force. ”
    But what, the Soviet government did not do the same? With all this, she also became the largest consumer of other people's bread, which the petrodollars went to.
    "Russia was pregnant with a revolution, it is no coincidence that several years before his death, Leo Tolstoy wrote in his diary that he had a dream - in Russia there was a revolution not against private property, but against property in general," historian Andrei Fursov said in an interview with Nakanune.RU. - Well, that’s what happened, that’s why Lenin at one time called Leo Tolstoy a mirror of the Russian revolution. "
    Then the USSR was “pregnant with the revolution”, because the ending was the same - a hungry country, fattening power, only the tsarism of the Romanov dynasty alone lasted 300 years, and the Bolsheviks ... ...
    Take your time to label and blame. Just think and make sense of the story, please.
    NOT a monarchist, NOT a Bolshevik.
  9. AKC
    AKC 14 November 2017 21: 41 New
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    why did people from the social camp from a good life run into a terrible capmir? why didn’t I hear that they would flee from South Korea to the DPRK!
    why if the USSR was not life but a fairy tale, then we had to drown out the enemy voices, forbid literature, foreign films, forbid communication with foreigners! (modern Ukraine is reminiscent of the USSR, everything is banned there just as well. everyone is being watched)
    you probably need to write an article. that everything was fine in the Soviet Union, and some problems, for example, hunger, technical and technological lag, food shortages, farmers, grain purchase from the enemy, etc. were caused by the poor rule of the Russian tsars (who did not develop industry, agriculture and science), the harmful capitalist environment (who did not really want the spread of communism and the loss of spheres of influence). Well, the Tatar-Mongol yoke (they taught Russian obscenities to swear !!!
    I almost forgot our Jewish friends, they are always to blame in general and in everything !!!
    much of what is written in the article can be safely addressed to the USSR, for example "Outwardly, everything seemed to be decent enough. But, you know, after all, any national economy can be thought of as the economy of a large company that has its assets and its liabilities. It seems that the assets were large - these are factories, mines, railways, trading network, ports, etc. But the fact is that there are liabilities - these are debt obligations on loans, on investments, that is, this kind of external well-being was achieved at the cost of making us more dependent on Western investors and western lenders ".
    when did the Russian Federation pay the debt of the USSR?
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 15 November 2017 01: 56 New
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      before speaking, I advise you to see what kind of people they ran .. and where these dissidents turned out to be ... you don’t have your own brains, just pull quotes from tyrnet ... how can you live so stupid .. he remembered how much else you don’t know. ignoramus ..
      1. AKC
        AKC 15 November 2017 09: 56 New
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        and which people fled? designers, poets, writers, actors. pilots, sailors, are they all bad and worthless people? maybe Svetlana Alliluyeva is also a bad person?
        The Soviet Union collapsed partly due to the fact that, for example, people like Zvorykin, Chaliapin fled and people like you stayed.
        can you tell us more about which people were running? starting from the first days of Soviet power and ending with the children of members of the CPSU who fell out of the USSR after its collapse?
        1. long in stock.
          long in stock. 15 November 2017 15: 23 New
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          just keep quiet about poets and writers. half of them immediately settled in civilized and free madhouses. alliluyeva is generally a worthless person. who is she? Stalin’s daughter, everything. The code word is Stalin. Without him, no one. Actors? well ... we had a prison for homosexuals ... maybe we can remember Kramerov? although this last name will not tell you anything ... what did he become in Hollywood? nobody ... and an unrespectable stupid person, before you write your last names you should be a little bit read who it is ... then you may not begin to recall the same Zvorykin .. well, how are you still stupid ... I want to cry because of your limitations ... and not because I am angry, but because the argument with a smart person is much more interesting ... go study .. although .. olgovich we taught to think, maybe we will train you ..
  10. Russia
    Russia 26 January 2018 07: 52 New
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    It's time to study ...
  11. seacap
    seacap 10 March 2018 12: 16 New
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    It is very likely that history repeats itself after a revolution. The state of society is close to the same situation as in 1914, at a different level but in general the same. The same stratification, the same cynical, hating the country and its people, the so-called . elite ghouls, the same antagonistic relations among the people, the same level and educational opportunities. The Liberastans achieved with the help of their overseas masters the most important thing - they destroyed the achievement of the development of society as the concept of the Soviet people, with its unity, the highest sense of patriotism, collectivism and readiness to self-sacrifice, combined with a high level of education and creative development.
  12. seacap
    seacap 10 March 2018 12: 20 New
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    Quote: long in stock.
    before speaking, I advise you to see what kind of people they ran .. and where these dissidents turned out to be ... you don’t have your own brains, just pull quotes from tyrnet ... how can you live so stupid .. he remembered how much else you don’t know. ignoramus ..

    It’s useless to explain and prove, with the clip thinking of the interlocutor, a waste of time and nerves, the same thing. As for jumpers with a bonfire-headed and no-brain, there are no brains - one cerebellum, only animal instincts.