Ukrainian tank engines, delivered to Pakistan, massively fail

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"Pakistani story"Started in 2016. Plant them. Malysheva transferred to the Ministry of Defense of Pakistan 30 sets of motor-transmission units for tanks Al Khalid. However, soon the engines began to fail, пишет blogger Diana Mikhailova.

Ukrainian tank engines, delivered to Pakistan, massively fail




The examination found that the engines were okay, but the oil turned out to be of very poor quality. The only licensed manufacturer of this oil in Ukraine is the Berdyansk enterprise Agrinol.

“The most interesting begins further. It turns out that at Agrinol they don’t even know of any oil supplies to Pakistan. The company won the tender and sent oil to the Ukrainian troops. But during the 2016-2017, the Berdyansk plant did not export Azmol Garant oil to Pakistan. Where did the corporation Ukrspecekport, which supplied the Pakistanis both the motors and all the related components, take this ill-fated oil? ”, The author asks.

It turned out that in the past the Fastovsky plant Arian also owned the license for the production of this product. But after the revocation of the license, the company continued to produce oil illegally, actually delivering a counterfeit to the market.

Over the past 2-ies, signals about counterfeiting under the trademark "Azmol" have been repeatedly sent to all competent departments. And Ukroboronprom, and Ukrspetsexport, and the Ministry of Defense knew about it.

However, when buying oil for Pakistani tanks, the choice of Ukrspetsekport officials fell on Arian. During 2015-2017, the corporation delivered almost 200 tons of completely unsuitable motor oil to Pakistan.

The management of Ukrspetsexport has organized a scheme according to which fake is purchased twice as expensive as oil from a legal manufacturer. A ton of the original "Azmol Garant" costs no more than 80 thousand UAH. The average price at which the state corporation buys fake "Ariana", under similar conditions of delivery, fluctuates around 162-163 thousand UAH per ton. Officials send the difference between real and official value to their offshore companies, ”the article says.

Naturally, a large-scale swindle is possible only under the auspices of the general director of the Ukroboronprom Roman Romanov. His name has not yet appeared in the investigation materials. But since 2014, when the official headed the concern, it has been regularly heard in investigative journalism about corruption in the defense industry.
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  1. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 09
    but the oil turned out to be of very poor quality.

    ... spread the oil, ukrokakkly ... bully
    1. +6
      10 November 2017 13: 23
      Another peremoga. It’s good that the reactors in Ukraine are still working, is it interesting for how long? Sad it all request
    2. +3
      10 November 2017 16: 35
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... spread the oil, ukrokakkly ...

      There should be a prayer in the oil additive, you can imagine how MUCH this additive is from the Institute of Chemical Additives from the USSR
      1. +6
        10 November 2017 20: 00
        Quote: svp67
        There should be a prayer in the oil additive, you can imagine how MUCH this additive is from the Institute of Chemical Additives from the USSR

        Prayer? This is the church. Will it definitely help?
        1. +2
          10 November 2017 20: 08
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Prayer? This is the church. Will it definitely help?

          Even very, if you especially consider it as Molybdenum
          1. +2
            11 November 2017 02: 26
            Quote: svp67
            Even very, if you especially consider it as Molybdenum

            Well, to be particularly precise, all molybdenum additives were made on the basis of molybdenum disulfide or tungsten disulfide, and they were expensive. On the basis of molybdenum disulfide, in Zaporizhia, a constant velocity joint grease was produced for constant velocity joints Vaz2121 "Niva."
        2. +1
          11 November 2017 16: 44
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Prayer? This is the church.

          Additives should sanctify! Licensed cleric! Otherwise, counterfeit.
  2. +11
    10 November 2017 13: 11
    Doubtful news! That's why
    writes blogger Diana Mikhailova.e]

    Who is she, where did she get this from? So many questions...
    1. +2
      10 November 2017 13: 30
      Quote: Anarchist
      Who is she, where did she get this from? So many questions...
      Dancer "Mamba" wrote an article on military procurement ...... belay
    2. +3
      10 November 2017 13: 31
      Quote: Anarchist
      Doubtful news! That's why
      writes blogger Diana Mikhailova.e]

      Who is she, where did she get this from? So many questions...

      I would say fried .... but?
      Ugh anarchist ... beguiled the girls.
      What is the price? !!!
      A ton of the original "Azmol Guarantor" costs no more than 80 thousand UAH. The average price at which the state corporation buys "Ariana" counterfeit, under similar delivery conditions, fluctuates around 162-163 thousand UAH per ton.

      Mobile and other oils for cushion machines, 10000 is the price red, or am I not catching up with something? The price tags are known even for shell, even for Lukoil.
    3. +2
      10 November 2017 19: 35
      Diana Mikhailova is a very reputable blogger. He writes in his LJ and often issues extremely informative information on the Ukrainian army and military-industrial complex. It is often referenced by many serious resources. PM ridicule out of place. request
    4. +1
      11 November 2017 04: 31
      So you have a question? I would even say absolutely fair appeared. For this, they give a link to the blogZhezh, and there are already sources there.
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    1. +2
      10 November 2017 13: 33
      Quote: DEZINTO
      How is it, by the way, that the entire range of military equipment from Chernobyl that disappeared in an instant? Already all spread across the anti-terrorist operation zone?


      What do you mean? If the technique used to eliminate the consequences, then in the early 90s it was suitable only for metal. I repent, I turned a blind eye to using engines from there, but already in the 92nd there was practically no choice, they removed all that were suitable. There were transport in the zone a lot, but the severity of the moment has already passed, and with it the supply quietly ended.
  4. +11
    10 November 2017 13: 22
    A two-stroke tank diesel is VERY finicky to oil and, God forbid, it will experience "oil starvation" or poor-quality oil will be applied, it very quickly begins to fail. In the USSR, M16IHP3 oil was specially developed for these engines and it seems that Ukraine decided to carry out "decommunization" work .... And the result is deplorable, the Pakistani Al Khalid tank did not survive the Russian-Chinese-Ukrainian hybrid
    1. +12
      10 November 2017 13: 34
      The other day, an article on WarFiles was about the massive "death" of tanks in Ukroreich. So there during the investigation it turned out that they put under the guise of new engines with a developed resource. Although at first the suppliers also appealed to the poor quality of fuels and lubricants, which turned out to be a fairy tale of the Vienna forest.
      1. +4
        10 November 2017 14: 13
        Quote: Jedi
        The other day an article on WarFiles was about the massive "death" of tanks in Ukroreich

        I read about it. So I understand that in Ukraine people believed in "visa-free", since they go to such frauds
        1. +7
          10 November 2017 14: 33
          Honestly, I don’t understand what they believe in and what they hope for. In support of the USA? So this is stupid - the US is pursuing its goals and they do not care about Ukraine.
          1. +4
            10 November 2017 14: 44
            Quote: Jedi
            Honestly, I don’t understand what they believe in and what they hope for. In support of the USA? So this is stupid - the US is pursuing its goals and they do not care about Ukraine.

            Those who now rule Ukraine believe that they will manage to obtain American citizenship before it all goes to pieces. And this moment is getting closer and closer ... the closer March 2018 in Russia. Now the main task of Ukraine in the plans of the United States is to do everything to bring Putin down. And for this, Ukraine must decide on a war with Russia. What she does not want at all, but she is being pushed more and more towards this ...
            1. +6
              10 November 2017 14: 54
              Well, the shortsightedness of the United States in the implementation of plans is well known. They also wanted to overthrow Putin with sanctions for the Crimea. Happened?
              1. +1
                10 November 2017 16: 37
                Quote: Jedi
                They also wanted to overthrow Putin with sanctions for the Crimea. Happened?

                No. But they are consistent and most importantly, while they have an unlimited financial resource.
                1. +5
                  11 November 2017 09: 22
                  You have correctly selected a keyword.
    2. +4
      10 November 2017 14: 44
      Quote: svp67
      A two-stroke tank diesel is VERY finicky to oil and, God forbid, it will experience "oil starvation" or poor-quality oil will be applied, it very quickly begins to fail.
      I agree completely, since the railway transport had to deal with TR TR D-100 diesel engines
      Diesel diesel engines of the D-100 series, of the same design and tact as the diesel engines of the 5TDF and 6TD series, with poor fuel and lubricants have the same defects: burnouts of pistons, scuffing of cylinders.
      1. +5
        10 November 2017 14: 46
        Quote: Amurets
        Diesel diesel engines of the D-100 series, of the same design and tact, with poor fuel and lubricants, have the same defects: burnouts of pistons, scuffing of cylinders.

        The tank also has a very "dust wear" factor, but here the main role of the air purification system, which must be professionally monitored and able to maintain it
        1. +1
          10 November 2017 15: 38
          Quote: svp67
          The tank also has a very "dust wear" factor, but here the main role of the air purification system, which must be professionally monitored and able to maintain it

          I agree. And this is not only in tanks. I know cases where KAMAZ and Krazy destroyed a piston for 200-300 km of run without an air cleaner filter element. The gaps were such that the finger crawled, this is no laughing matter.
          1. +1
            10 November 2017 16: 39
            Quote: Amurets
            And this is not only in tanks.

            There are NO filter elements on those tanks. There their role is played by AIR. And it requires an enhanced culture of service and maintenance. Dirty and those who are not careful, it is better not to work with it ...
            1. 0
              11 November 2017 07: 30
              Quote: svp67
              There their role is played by AIR. And it requires an enhanced culture of service and maintenance

              Do you mean multicyclones? I did not find a description of the air supply system, or rather, the section from the air intake to the supercharger.
              1. +1
                13 November 2017 13: 45
                Quote: Amurets
                I did not find a description of the air supply system

                The air purification system of the T-80UD Birch tank consists of two main components: centrifugal pre-filters and air purifier cartridges.
                The system allows you to operate the T-80UD Birch tank in hot and dusty conditions in the amount of 1000 kilometers without the need to change filters, as well as in conditions of radioactive contamination.
                With an average dust content of 2,5 g / kg, the T-80UD Birch can overcome 1000 km in the desert before the next cartridge service, which is equal to 20 hours of engine operation. The critical value of aerodynamic drag equal to 1300 + 50 kgf / m2 is achieved in 35 hours of operation.

                Classics
                And so, in life, the Pakistanis still have a lot, not only about oils, to learn about Ukrainian components ... wink
                1. 0
                  13 November 2017 15: 16
                  Thank. Now everything is clear. I dealt with such air cleaners. Similar people stood on a TE-3 2137 diesel locomotive of the so-called Kazakh series, for operation in dusty conditions of deserts of Central Asia. There was a lot of fuss and trouble with them
                  1. +1
                    13 November 2017 19: 26
                    It’s not T-80U, it’s more cunning, just a specialist under the desert
  5. +2
    10 November 2017 13: 23
    so and what packs expected that?
  6. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 27
    Well, that's good. Let them continue. Soon any customers at the sight of ukroflag will startle and be baptized ...
  7. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 35
    Take the Chinese, they do not fail out of mass, but according to the ranking, as the great Kun-tzu bequeathed. winked
  8. +2
    10 November 2017 13: 45
    At first I thought of the article that poured sunflower oil into the engines)))
  9. +2
    10 November 2017 13: 53
    Great and effective word - ROLLBACK!
    The solution lies in the properties of a national character.
    No offense, and we, the Russians, have the same trait.
  10. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 53
    YES when does the WHOLE world begin to drive any supplier from Ukraine with floor rags? fool Whoever has not already suffered from them, and each time the "savings" from buying in Ukria - turns out to be a huge expense. Personally, I - in any store, I won’t even take anything produced in Ukria. No, I’m not some kind of “fascist who hates Ukrainians”, I’m just a simple buyer who doesn’t want to get poisoned or throw right away “when unpacking”. request
  11. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 54
    I would be surprised if the Pakistanis worked as expected. Chubaty Honduras ...
  12. +7
    10 November 2017 14: 01
    Recently, an entire tank battalion in the Armed Forces failed. For the same reason".

    In fact, the engines have not been produced for a long time, the capricious junk 5TDF is used, which, moreover, is not produced, but is only being repaired.
    1. +1
      10 November 2017 14: 33
      6TD and 3TD are produced, 5TD is not. Pakistanis spoiled new movers due to cunning Ukrainians who changed their oil, but in the APU themselves the "repaired" 5ТДФ
      1. +6
        10 November 2017 14: 44
        May be. Honestly, I do not know why the engines urgently deteriorated in the Armed Forces and the Pakistanis at the same time, but the logic suggests that there is one reason. Used engines and cunning of fat and dill eaters.
        1. +2
          10 November 2017 15: 05
          6TD and MTO are new for sure. Packs even went to the factory and checked how they are produced, there is a photo on the Internet. The situation in the workshops is certainly depressing, but nevertheless the kuzmichi make movers.

          But 5td turned off. Actually, 3TD has also actually been curtailed, because the need for 6TD is so great that there is not enough capacity to produce 3TD with them. If you do it a little.

          Now on the BTR-4 put Deutz
  13. +3
    10 November 2017 14: 02
    UKRneft ... UKRgaz ... now UKR oil ... everything is predictable. In addition, Ukrainian engines that were installed on the T-64 and T-80UD reliability never differed
  14. +1
    10 November 2017 14: 03
    Yes, everything is fine, the main thing is to get and cut the butterflies, and there even though the grass does not grow.
  15. +3
    10 November 2017 14: 07
    Good news. Good laughing
  16. 0
    10 November 2017 14: 27
    the article shows that good toluo engines do not need to be filled with lamb fat
    1. +3
      10 November 2017 14: 35
      pork fat regretted?))
  17. +1
    10 November 2017 15: 00
    Is it corruption? This is just VAT!
  18. +2
    10 November 2017 15: 14
    A cheap fish that stinky yushka.
  19. +1
    11 November 2017 06: 28
    You need to know with whom you should not trade!
  20. 0
    11 November 2017 08: 45
    Valuable idea. It’s high time to send all the fake oils somewhere over the hill. And then you flush into the engine of the car and you are afraid and suddenly a fake. Yes, and strengthening the defense ability here on the face. Who knows who to move in a year Pakistani tanks. God forbid us. But Ukraine has already laid straws. Until they reach our border, or even not reach.
  21. 0
    11 November 2017 10: 29
    Annushka had already bought butter, and not only bought, but even spilled it. So the meeting will not take place. ”
  22. 0
    11 November 2017 16: 50
    The Pakistanis themselves are to blame, for the first time or something they get on the dough ....
  23. 0
    13 November 2017 09: 47
    Someone has another zrada, and someone else is overwhelmed!