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The White House: Putin and Trump won't meet

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The formal meeting of US and Russian presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin at the APEC summit in Vietnam will not take place, White House secretary Sarah Sanders said. She is quoted by the agency Bloomberg.


According to her, the reason is the tight schedule of the head of the White House. A spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, said that the agreement is still ongoing, there is no clarity yet.

The White House: Putin and Trump won't meet


Prior to that, Dmitry Peskov told reporters that the Kremlin hopes to complete the coordination of the exact time, place and format of the meeting of the two heads of state in the near future. He also confirmed that the “discussion” of holding such talks on Friday is being discussed. According to the press secretary of the Russian leader, there is no “some kind of agreed agenda” of the planned meeting between Putin and Trump.

Putin has already arrived in the country. He has scheduled a number of bilateral meetings, including with the Japanese prime minister, the leaders of China, Vietnam, and the Philippines.

Earlier, presidential aide Yury Ushakov said that Putin and Trump will be able to discuss at the meeting in Vietnam the situation in Syria and on the Korean Peninsula, as well as bilateral relations that "are in failure, in a crisis situation." The last time the leaders spoke on the margins of the G20 summit in Germany in July.
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  1. The black
    The black 10 November 2017 09: 48
    +5
    Something the headline does not correspond to the content of the article ..... I understand that both sides declare only that the question is still open.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 10 November 2017 09: 55
      +4
      The usual cry, now the title in many articles is just to attract attention.
      And over time, the liberalists will add yellowness to the headlines such as "Trump rolled Putin," "Putin was thrown," and the like. In this case, the text will still be about nothing.
      As for the agreement with China on the supply of LNG, at first they simply wrote that the Americans managed to compete with Qatar and Australia, which are the main suppliers of gas to China. And now they are chewing the topic with might and main that "China has abandoned the Power of Siberia under the pressure of America"
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 10 November 2017 10: 02
        +3
        Come on, fuck, just pissed off, under the guise of the idea of ​​universal perception of GDP as an unfriendly president.
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 10 November 2017 10: 06
          +4
          ... busy schedule ...

          The reason can always be found ...

          Seeking êàî. hi
          1. Logall
            Logall 10 November 2017 10: 17
            18
            Trump is an agent of the Kremlin, why meet him in person ?! Receive instructions in working order ...
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 10 November 2017 10: 51
              +6
              Laughter laugh, of course. But when in a meeting with the Russian ambassador to the United States is equated with treason, meeting with Putin himself is fraught with sideways. Along the way, the Secretary of State and the entire State Department are frantically phoning all the heads of state arriving at the summit so that they take every free minute so that Trump does not cross anywhere with Putin.
              In fact, all this is bad. When politicians do not know exactly whether they will contact or not, it means they have nothing to discuss. The troupe has nothing to offer.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 10 November 2017 12: 47
                +2
                There is something to discuss with them. A wagon and a small cart of problems. But Trump, it seems, even his wife is not the master, not like the White House. hi
        2. Nasrat
          Nasrat 10 November 2017 10: 22
          +6
          Vova flew for nothing .... will not meet Trump ...
          Trump with Uncle X at 253 ml. I decided the questions ... why now Trump Vova.?. Trump promised the voters work - he talked with the Chinese, he threw some money - Trump got a big plus in domestic politics ... why should he mess with Vova?

          In this situation, China is impressive, it acts only from the consideration of its national interests ....
          1. PalBor
            PalBor 10 November 2017 11: 15
            +8
            Quote: Nasr
            Vova flew for nothing .... will not meet Trump ...
            Trump with Uncle X at 253 ml. I decided the questions ... why now Trump Vova.?. Trump promised the voters work - he talked with the Chinese, he threw some money - Trump got a big plus in domestic politics ... why should he mess with Vova?

            In this situation, China is impressive, it acts only from the consideration of its national interests ....

            Here's how! Our President and Commander-in-Chief is Vova, and the red-headed cheater is respectful, Trump.
            I recall: “With whom are you, masters of culture ?!”
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 10 November 2017 11: 30
              +2
              Quote: PalBor
              I recall: “With whom are you, masters of culture ?!”

              So respectful about the troll on duty ?!
              1. PalBor
                PalBor 10 November 2017 12: 00
                +5
                Quote: sogdy
                Quote: PalBor
                I recall: “With whom are you, masters of culture ?!”

                So respectful about the troll on duty ?!

                The more respectful of the enemy, the more he freaks out and the more mistakes he makes bully
                1. Standard
                  Standard 10 November 2017 22: 57
                  0
                  Quote: PalBor
                  The more respectful of the enemy, the stronger

                  That is, he is more impudent and impudent.
                  And behavior is personal characteristics.
            2. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 52
              0
              Oh my god what a text! You should write novels! And I simply stated ...

              Presenting your version:

              Our President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief (and hereinafter) ....

              Right North Korea ... good

              1. PalBor
                PalBor 10 November 2017 12: 03
                +5
                I’ve been teaching history for more than 20 years at school. Without a creative approach, I’m not a teacher, but a “trainee for the USE or GIA.” And thanks for the assessment.
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 10 November 2017 12: 08
                  0
                  Not at all ... all the more you are a teacher !!! (I'm without jerking)
                  According to the comment (other than familiarity) - are there any thoughts? Or is this the whole claim, but do you agree with the meaning?
                  1. PalBor
                    PalBor 10 November 2017 12: 16
                    +5
                    I don’t admit familiarity in any direction. Irony is not familiarity.
                    I am writing in capital letters, as it is prescribed by law.
                    On domestic policy, GDP concerns a wagon and a small cart.
                    On the outside - I'm sure he is doing everything possible in this international situation and even a little more hi
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 10 November 2017 12: 20
                      +1
                      that he does everything possible - everyone understands ..
                      Why deny the importance of the meeting between the leadership of the United States and Russia. And that this meeting, Russia needs it more - it’s the same as white and black !!! But you read komenty - my God - a madhouse ...

                      In reality, our (country) life with you (and the standard of living is the same) depends on these meetings ...
                      At the same time, Trump successfully solves his tasks from the trip ...
                      1. PalBor
                        PalBor 10 November 2017 13: 25
                        +3
                        And on the other hand ... Well, our two handsome men met on the G-20. Has something changed? If only you had a budget increase.
                    2. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 10 November 2017 13: 37
                      0
                      Indeed, why all these meetings .... in the 21st century !! laughing

                      I’m stealing my own budget, I also give out 350 people every month! ..tongue. October was a weak month ... and Vova said that the economy was on the rise ... - I’ll say this to people for days !! wassat
                      1. PalBor
                        PalBor 10 November 2017 14: 31
                        +2
                        Quote: Nasr
                        Indeed, why all these meetings .... in the 21st century !! laughing

                        I own my budget

                        It’s good, I depend on the budget. But I would still learn Russian if you participate in the discussion. laughing
                    3. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 10 November 2017 14: 54
                      0
                      took note. this is not my only drawback ... if you want to talk about them too - write in a personal! wink

                      Quote: PalBor

                      I depend on the budget.


                      Hello! you are hitting good money - thanks to the President and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief !!! bully
            3. Standard
              Standard 10 November 2017 12: 01
              0
              Quote: PalBor
              I recall: “With whom are you, masters of culture ?!”

              Do you know this person? so he is from the "masters of culture"?
              Ilyich is truly right: ... "shit of the nation."
              And he chose a suitable nickname for himself.
              1. PalBor
                PalBor 10 November 2017 12: 23
                +3
                Damn, this is sarcasm ... By the way, Gorky told American journalists something like: "With whom are you, masters of Western culture? With the bourgeoisie and its nanny - the intelligentsia? Or with the working people of the whole Earth ?!"
                1. Standard
                  Standard 10 November 2017 22: 53
                  0
                  Quote: PalBor
                  Damn, this is sarcasm

                  Do you leave the right to sarcasm only to yourself?
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 10 November 2017 14: 20
            +3
            Quote: Nasr
            Trump with Uncle X at 253 ml. I decided the questions ... why now Trump Vova.?.


            Hey. There is a reason in your statements. Trump and C for themselves designated the zone of influence. For disgraced President Trump, this is a small victory in the wallet (against Congress and the Senate). For C, this is an exit to the big stages, pushing Russia with his hip.

            In addition, the purchase of gas fields in Alaska for American papers unleashes Xi’s hands in bidding for Russian gas prices from the Power of Siberia pipe. Big hit this C. Well, Trump has a reason to make a face, like Mussolini, and refer to the lack of time for an arrow with Putin.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 14: 27
              +3
              Hi!
              Well, what am I talking about!
              The only thing we need to see in the future, the dynamics of China's investments in US securities is an excellent marker ... a couple, three months, perhaps, interesting twists of fate will show ...

              There is no doubt that Vova was tense ... All the players have good cards, but our cards are obviously weaker ...
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 16: 56
              +3
              Quote: Lelek
              In addition, the purchase of gas fields in Alaska for American papers unleashes Xi’s hands in bidding for Russian gas prices from the Power of Siberia pipe. Big hit this C. Well, Trump has a reason to make a face, like Mussolini, and refer to the lack of time for an arrow with Putin.

              The enthusiasm for the achievements of the American president lasted about 12 hours and began to abruptly disappear after comments from officials, diplomats and businessmen who saw the texts of the agreements began to appear in the national media. In fact, it turns out that X handed Trump a “dummy” in a shiny media wrapper. laughing laughing laughing
              According to Bloomberg, citing the Chinese company Sinopec, the Chinese side is only "interested in the possibility" of buying LNG from Alaska. Moreover, Reuters reports that the final investment and procurement decision will be made in the fourth quarter of 2019.
              https://ria.ru/analytics/20171110/1508553680.html
              ? utm_source = ria.24smi.info & utm_medium = referra
              l & utm_campaign = 2626 & utm_content = 1355927
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 11 November 2017 17: 10
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                Nikolai Grek


                Hi, Nikolai.
                Exactly. A game of two cheaters. C with an impenetrable face without a sparkle in slanting eyes and a poser showman Trump with a sparkle in whitish eyes in anticipation of a victory over an Asian. Let yourself amuse yourself and spoil each other's scales. While the Power of Siberia is slowly and stubbornly paving its track in Southeast Asia, the Americans are quite safely supplying our LNG to Europe, posing as their shale. For us, in this situation, money does not smell.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 17: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: Lelek
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  Nikolai Grek


                  Hi, Nikolai.
                  Exactly. A game of two cheaters. C with an impenetrable face without a sparkle in slanting eyes and a poser showman Trump with a sparkle in whitish eyes in anticipation of a victory over an Asian. Let yourself amuse yourself and spoil each other's scales. While the Power of Siberia is slowly and stubbornly paving its track in Southeast Asia, the Americans are quite safely supplying our LNG to Europe, posing as their shale. For us, in this situation, money does not smell.

                  salam !!! drinks drinks drinks smile Apparently, any contracts of amerikosy, where hundreds of lard bucks appear and which are presented with such a pomp, can be considered a fiction !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Lelek
                    Lelek 11 November 2017 17: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    Nikolai Grek


                    Well, you can’t alter the shark of capitalism with experience, so what? Correctly. You need to relax and get the most out of it. I draw a conclusion on the basis of the creed of the same Chinese. yes
          3. Standard
            Standard 10 November 2017 22: 59
            0
            Quote: Nasr
            Trump with Uncle X at 253 ml. I decided the questions ... why now Trump Vova.?.

            Trump's country owes China a lot of lard.
            Therefore, Trump's need for Si and Vova has different motives.
            Just in case, I’ll clarify: the USA owes China, and everything that Trump signs reduces this debt (as Trump hopes).
          4. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 11 November 2017 16: 49
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            Vova flew for nothing .... will not meet Trump ...
            Trump with Uncle X at 253 ml. I decided the questions ... why now Trump Vova.?. Trump promised the voters work - he talked with the Chinese, he threw some money - Trump got a big plus in domestic politics ... why should he mess with Vova?

            In this situation, China is impressive, it acts only from the consideration of its national interests ....

            The size and importance of Trump’s “miracle” turned out to be greatly exaggerated, and the Bloomberg news agency has already released an analytical article entitled “The $ 250 billion Trump Trophy turned out to be almost empty” and hints that the Chinese simply took advantage of the American president’s love for the bright but empty PR. "These are classic Chinese actions. They have been doing this for a thousand years," complains to US reporters ex-US ambassador to Beijing Max Baukus.

            RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/analytics/20171110/1508553680.html
            wink laughing laughing laughing
          5. alex86
            alex86 11 November 2017 21: 30
            0
            Quote: Nasr
            Vova flew for nothing.

            And so he dreamed of meeting someone he considered equal to himself ... And they threw him ... And even the "Mace" and the "White Swan" did not help ...
            Kid: Believe me, Carlson, happiness is not in the "Clubs" ...
            Carlson: What are you, Baby, and what else? ...             - World History, House No. 6 - someday we will have a smart (not cool, not from St. Petersburg gateway, but smart) president? ...
            Not in this life, apparently ...
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 11 November 2017 21: 35
              +7
              Quote: alex86
              And they threw him ... And even the "Mace" with the "White Swan" did not help ..

              Well, here's what you grudge about? What and who offended you so much? Maybe help with what?

              Quote: alex86
              Ward number 6 - someday we will have a smart (not cool, not from St. Petersburg gateway, but smart) president?

              And then you are wrong, and it’s not that way ... It is not clear recourse
              1. alex86
                alex86 11 November 2017 21: 50
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Well, here's what you grudge about?

                Where is it necessary? And here it is impossible, or what?
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Maybe help with what?
                - Yes, please send Putin to retire.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                And then you are wrong, and it’s not that way ... It is not clear

                What is "that" (cool, in the sense of?) And what is "this" (from the Petersburg gateway, like?)? Yes, neither "that" nor "this" suits me. You don’t understand that you want a smart president? - but I don’t understand this. You want a sex guy playing punks with the terminology “soak in the toilet” and “send a doctor” - but I want a smart one - is this not clear in our country? I mean, have you transferred? ... I mean, there is no hope? ... That is, I’ll die without seeing the country of honesty and prosperity, but only theft and poverty? I have another 10-15 years, of which this macho will take 6 years (all the time I confuse macho and Ch (man) M (alo) O (brazovanny) - right now he said?), For the remaining 4-9 years, I'm afraid we are raising it from our knees, increasing the GDP by 2 times (wrote and was horrified - and HIS will it double by?), the implementation of the May decrees (who even remembers, what is it about?) we will not be able to bring to a human state. It turns out that I’m dying with this (like this? Of three letters?) GDP
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 11 November 2017 22: 02
                  +8
                  Oooooo ... how it all started ... okay, by division:
                  Quote: alex86
                  I have another 10-15 years

                  Cool. Unfortunately, I won’t say such confidence for myself.
                  Quote: alex86
                  i want smart

                  So what did Putin not please? Not in form, but in essence? Where are the specifics?
                  You specifically have some kind of complex ... for the current leader. Personal resentment? Or what? What if "or"?
                  Anyway - I don’t understand yet request
                  I’m going to go for a walk, maybe it’ll come to my mind ...
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 10 November 2017 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: sir_obs
        liberalists will add yellowness to the headlines such as "Trump rolled Putin", "Putin was thrown" and the like

        Well, now you can safely interpret as "Trump meeting with Putin" ... request
      3. AUL
        AUL 10 November 2017 14: 39
        0
        According to her, the reason is the tight schedule of the head of the White House.
        Boorish wording! Like, I don’t have time to talk to you here! And next time Putin will have to answer like that. And they don’t see the coast at all!
      4. tol100v
        tol100v 11 November 2017 16: 43
        0
        Quote: sir_obs
        Now the title in many articles is just to attract attention.

        Exactly! Like magicians! But in fact, the Resident met with an Agent nicknamed “President” and exchanged ciphers and new information during a handshake! And the media is just a distraction!
    2. Dashout
      Dashout 10 November 2017 09: 57
      +7
      Apparently, the USA has no solutions on questions and answers formulated by the Sherpas. Well, right! And what ... to meet him then? Putin is not Poroshenko - he needs a result, not a pat on the shoulder.
      On the other hand, if they didn’t agree, this is an aggravation of relations either in Ukraine or in Syria.
    3. BecmepH
      BecmepH 10 November 2017 10: 26
      +3
      Yesterday at the “second” in “60 minutes” they said that the Americans requested a meeting 2 months ago, but ours haven’t decided yet ...
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 10 November 2017 10: 58
        +1
        Quote: BecmepH
        .. and ours have not decided yet ...


        Our a priori don’t decide what ... they decide overseas .. with whom they outlined, they met with him and solved all the issues.
        1. Standard
          Standard 10 November 2017 11: 58
          +2
          Quote: Nasr
          Our a priori do not solve anything.

          You seem to have recently left the kindergarten.
          It’s time to grow up.
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 10 November 2017 13: 20
            0
            Quote: Norma

            You seem to have recently left the kindergarten.

            In the morning I left the kindergarten ... I took my third son away, before work .. bully Do you have kids? or just wander your hands ... on the keyboard? wassat
            Quote: Norma

            It’s time to grow up.

            Tell me, Grandpa! bully
          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 10 November 2017 13: 36
            0
            Quote: Norma
            Quote: Nasr
            Our a priori do not solve anything.

            You seem to have recently left the kindergarten.
            It’s time to grow up.

            It’s useless to argue with people like NasRat. Even such a stupid device as a navigator will not argue with that.
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 10 November 2017 13: 38
          0
          Quote: Nasr
          Quote: BecmepH
          .. and ours have not decided yet ...


          Our a priori don’t decide what ... they decide overseas .. with whom they outlined, they met with him and solved all the issues.

          I understand that it is useless to argue with you, but all the same ... In Crimea, at the direction of "climbed"? And to Syria?
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 10 November 2017 14: 05
            0
            Why argue then? Seeing the obvious and saying the opposite is certainly so patriotic!

            DANANG, Nov 10 - RIA Novosti. Donald Trump did not attend the meeting of APEC leaders with members of the Business Advisory Council, where he could meet with Vladimir Putin.
            -------------
            Spokesman for the Russian leader Dmitry Peskov noted that conflicting statements have been received from the American side, but the Russian Federation continues to work to come to some kind of understanding, but the two presidents will “intersect one way or another”
            ----------------------
            Lavrov is angry that the boss failed:

            "We heard Trump’s statement that he wants to meet with Putin ... What the rest of his bureaucrats say, I don’t know, ask them," the minister said on the Russia-24 television channel.

            Everything says (including common sense) that the meeting is very important for Russia, for the United States it doesn’t matter at all ... what does Crimea and Syria have to do with it? Let's tell how everything is going well at the summit for the Russian Federation ..
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 11 November 2017 16: 46
          0
          Quote: Nasr
          Our a priori do not solve anything ..

          Silly YOU! Ours do not decide, but DO!
      2. sogdy
        sogdy 10 November 2017 11: 28
        +1
        Quote: BecmepH
        and ours haven’t decided yet

        The Americans were unable to communicate the agenda of the meeting. And if there’s nothing to meet about, then why “meet”?

        "They called to grind, but there is nothing to rub" (c)
    4. sogdy
      sogdy 10 November 2017 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: Black
      both sides declare only that the question is still open.

      I translate: the United States could not explain what our interest is. And they were just sent.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 54
        +1
        They sent in - the White House announced that it did not intend to meet, but Peskov still hoped ... laughing
      2. Standard
        Standard 10 November 2017 11: 57
        0
        Quote: sogdy
        I translate:

        You have excellent translation skills! wink
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 10 November 2017 14: 21
          0
          Thank you, you once taught.
          It is called "bureaucracy" - a special section of speech with its own terminology, with its own turns. By the way, punctuation there is also somewhat different. But the full uniqueness of what was said. Course "Bureaucracy and Librarianship".
  2. Kent0001
    Kent0001 10 November 2017 09: 52
    +3
    Just like girls with low social responsibility. They would have decided.
  3. mad
    mad 10 November 2017 09: 53
    10
    Ivanka must meet, Donald finally can not topic))
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 10 November 2017 10: 04
      +7
      Quote: mad
      Ivanka must meet

      Oh! I wouldn’t mind, but Kushner has already staked her wink
  4. Shadow of darkness
    Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 09: 54
    +1
    Yeah! They humiliate Putin as they can, but we all wipe ourselves, but we wipe ourselves. No.
    1. The black
      The black 10 November 2017 09: 56
      +9
      Quote: Shadow of the Dark
      Yeah! They humiliate Putin as they can,

      What? ... Initially, the initiative came from the USA ... and not even an evening yet. It seems to me that the meeting will be ...
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 10 November 2017 10: 01
        +4
        I think it will. Perhaps they will present it as a conversation at an official dinner, but they are going to grind just for North Korea.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 10 November 2017 11: 36
          +1
          At the dinner there will be a trio - the Presidents of Vietnam, China and the Russian Federation. Does Trump have anything to talk about with them all?
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 10 November 2017 10: 05
        13
        It seems that Trampushka and his "brigade Wow" are not ready for the conditions put forward by the Kremlin in the framework of solving the North Korean problem.
        Donald does not want to look pale, GDP is not C - without eastern curtsies, there is a question, it is necessary to solve ....
        Vyacheslav, Salute! hi
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 10 November 2017 10: 34
          +4
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          GDP is not C - without eastern curtsy, there is a question, it is necessary to decide ....


          That's just the point, GDP is not SI ... he is not able to add an additional 600 billion to the turnover with the USA (253 billion $) !!! wassat
          Both Trump and C have decided their questions ..... let's see how Vova will solve his questions .. tongue Mostly, GDP flew precisely to meet with Trump ... and they all perfectly understand this and do not have to make a good face, with a bad game ...
          1. Yakut14
            Yakut14 10 November 2017 11: 35
            0
            Not the fact that everything grows together with them fellow at 250 yards, Xi is that sly fox, loves to blow fog!
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 46
              +1
              Quote: Yakut14
              Not the fact that everything grows together with them fellow at 250 yards, Xi is that sly fox, loves to blow fog!

              And what does Xi keep green paper in the bank ??? It is better to buy aircraft, engines, meat, etc. - and all this notice for the inhabitants of their own country, and not investing in American securities ... hi
          2. XXXIII
            XXXIII 10 November 2017 11: 39
            0
            Quote: Nasr
            Mostly, GDP flew precisely to meet with Trump ... and they all perfectly understand this and do not have to make a good face, with a bad game ...
            here you are + only one, then I’ll throw it tongue ..... this is APEC fool the meeting of leaders will be at the general photo session for sure ...... laughing
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 44
              +1
              Blessed is he who believes ... bully
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 10 November 2017 11: 50
                0
                Quote: Nasr
                Blessed is he who believes ...
                Source: Donald Trump will not take his wife to Vietnam at the APEC summit ...... well, now what to discuss at the talks request ...... who from the audience will wink ...... lol
          3. Standard
            Standard 10 November 2017 11: 51
            0
            Quote: Nasr
            Mostly, GDP flew precisely to meet with Trump ... and everyone understands this very well

            So you understand too? So tell us why the GDP should meet with a representative of a state that is not able to fulfill any of its obligations.
            The USA is a cowardly state. It is useless to treat this state.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 58
              0
              Quote: Norma

              The USA is a cowardly state. It is useless to treat this state.


              I will keep this expression in mind ... bully good
          4. Shadow of darkness
            Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 11: 59
            0
            Excuse me, Putin himself reports to you about his plans? Putin will have enough other meetings there. It’s not bad that they will not meet, it’s bad that they are trying to use their meeting or non-meeting to further escalate anti-Russian hysteria. There is no reason for the meeting of the two presidents in these conditions. To resolve possible issues, ordinary diplomats are now quite enough.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 10 November 2017 12: 03
              0
              Quote: Shadow of Darkness
              Excuse me, Putin himself reports to you about his plans?

              Did he report to you? If the whole branch only discusses this .... laughing

              Quote: Shadow of Darkness
              Putin will have enough other meetings there.


              Well, yes, for example, with a Japanese ... long time no see ... laughing
              Quote: Shadow of Darkness
              There is no reason for the meeting of the two presidents in these conditions. To resolve possible issues, ordinary diplomats are now quite enough.


              Against the background of the Trump and C treaties - indeed - there is no reason for their (Trump + Putin) meetings ... bully
              1. Shadow of darkness
                Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 12: 47
                0
                Did he report to you? If the whole branch only discusses this ....

                I did not claim this, unlike you. The whole branch discusses only refusing to meet Trump with Putin, but this does not mean that Putin at the APEC only a meeting with Trump was the goal.
                Well, yes, for example, with a Japanese ... long time no see ...

                Japan has not yet sought to speak only the language of sanctions and dialogue with them is ongoing, as well as with China or Vietnam, as well as other participants in the summit. And the economic aspects of the negotiations are quite acceptable with any party capable of these negotiations. The United States mainly speaks through sanctions, which means as an economic partner in the negotiations below the baseboard, the political aspect after diplomatic demarches, at this level, is also meaningless. The new demarche with the refusal was intended to create exactly the reaction of the people that you show: “Russia in isolation” and “we are all going to die”, you showed it and their goal was basically achieved. hi
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 10 November 2017 13: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Shadow of Darkness
                  .. The new demarche with a refusal was intended to create exactly that reaction

                  Now it’s my turn to ask this question: - Did they tell you from the White House about the purpose of the demarche? tongue

                  And the fact that they defiantly send us off is certainly a blessing for Russia! And inspires universal respect !! good
                  In our Foreign Ministry, we are still hoping for a meeting .... at least a fleeting one !!! And why?
                  1. Shadow of darkness
                    Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 13: 34
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                    But nothing that the Americans themselves were the initiators of this meeting?
                    Regarding what they were supposed to tell me in the white house, I can poke a finger at you and say: that your reaction and those like you are predictable, and just confirms my words. bully
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 10 November 2017 14: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Shadow of Darkness
                      But nothing that the Americans themselves were the initiators of this meeting?

                      Well this is not a fact. And if so ... having stopped in China - Trump solved his task. And then he decided that now he had no reason to meet with Putin .. Xi solved his problem - without going to Vietnam ... But Putin did not decide anything .... bully
                      Oh yes, I talked with Dutarte good

                      And about
                      Quote: Shadow of Darkness
                      .. that yours and those like you are predictable, and just confirms my words. bully

                      My reaction was a reaction to a reaction ... such as YOU, who translate "hardship" into "help" bully

                      Make friends with an ostrich!
                      1. Shadow of darkness
                        Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 16: 29
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                        I do not see here any harassment or overwork. I see here only a propaganda trick and the poor work of officials on counteraction. And judging by your imposition of the State Department’s propaganda point, I suspect you of working for Americans or dumb trolling. All dialogue is finished!
      3. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 10: 34
        +3
        Quote: Black
        Quote: Shadow of the Dark
        Yeah! They humiliate Putin as they can,

        What? ... Initially, the initiative came from the USA ... and not even an evening yet. It seems to me that the meeting will be ...

        They do this all the time, at first they shame under the door, and then with an honest face they pose as holy innocence. In the current environment, there’s nothing to talk to them about. While there are constant provocations, negotiations can also be conducted by the Sixes. The negotiations at the highest level need to be conducted only with adequate people, and all sorts of under-presidents of a single-duty option to ignore and not give them a reason to play an arrogant refusal at the last moment, for domestic consumption. In the context of anti-Russian hysteria, in the mind, the president should avoid meeting with the enemy, without any counter-positive steps. There are no positive steps - there are no top-level negotiations. Otherwise, the negotiations will end in nothing or some other sort of kick out of the opposite side.
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 10 November 2017 12: 25
          +2
          I agree! Why do our political scientists forming public opinion all the time explain to the people that Trump, they say, is good, but his retinue is all crap. There is some truth in this, but only a fraction. One of the distinguishing features of democracy as a social system corresponds to the proverb "The authorities are full, but there is nobody to send to x ...". But the truth is only a fraction, for the king forms the court.
          1. Shadow of darkness
            Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 13: 38
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            I also talk about this.
            for the king forms the court.
          2. Shadow of darkness
            Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 14: 03
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            But Trump is far from a king, rather a jester playing the role of a king. Most of the American elite are Russophobes and they should not wait for a warming of relations in the near future, the Americans now only need to surrender Russia, with all the ensuing consequences, and this desire will not depend on Putin's presidency or anyone else. Only surrender! Therefore, it is difficult to understand body movements on our part. We are now in the role of a bear, the hunter will poison us with sabaks until either the bear dies or the hunter escapes.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 10 November 2017 10: 01
      12
      Quote: Shadow of Darkness
      Yeah! They humiliate Putin as they can, but we all wipe ourselves, but we wipe ourselves. No.

      And how he was humiliated, so that the boss of the world mafia breaks down as a girl before the wedding night, and the initiative did not come from Putin, they even come across something that will not be of any use. bully
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 10 November 2017 10: 11
        +8
        Hello, Vlad! hi drinks
        Quote: 79807420129
        the boss of the world mafia breaks down as a girl before the wedding night, and the initiative did not come from Putin

        “Let’s meet you, but I’m so busy ...” - babble and complete disagreement in the White House, indicating schizophrenia. yes
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 10 November 2017 10: 13
          +8
          Once again, this underlines Trump's failure. how is politics ....
          Clown, he is in Vietnam, a clown .. fool
          Warriors of the Order !!! hi hi hi
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 10 November 2017 10: 23
            +5
            Hi Kostya! hi I about the same: Trump says one thing, the White House - another. Pure schizophrenia.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 10 November 2017 10: 42
          +4
          Max! There is a proposal to arrange a tote on bitcoins. I think they will meet. But who is with whom? Putin with Trump or Trump with Putin ...
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 10 November 2017 10: 47
            +4
            Glory, welcome! hi You would throw your idea to the bookmakers, for a percentage of the amount of bets, of course. wink
      2. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 10: 44
        +2
        Now we can forget in the media about whose initiative it was and show the whole world interviews with our officials, how they are justifying about the cancellation of the meeting, and show Trump in the light of his negative attitude to "tyrant Putin." Purely internal PR, using this situation to drop Trump’s charges of being close to Putin.
    3. BecmepH
      BecmepH 10 November 2017 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: Shadow of Darkness
      Yeah! They humiliate Putin as they can, but we all wipe ourselves, but we wipe ourselves. No.

      What nonsense ...
    4. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 10 November 2017 11: 12
      +1
      The most curious thing will be when it turns out that it was Putin, who did not receive clarity about Trump’s readiness to conduct a conversation on Putin’s agenda, who refused to meet. But the State Department, as usual, put everything upside down.
      1. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 11: 35
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        The State Department announced Trump's refusal to meet with Putin, and Peskov is still talking about the possibility of a meeting! Putin has “cool” advisers if they allowed him to get into a puddle prepared by the State Department.
      2. Standard
        Standard 10 November 2017 11: 45
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        Quote: Vlad.by
        the State Department, as usual, put everything upside down.

        The State Department is trying to save the whole “face” - although the United States has long had a pork snout.
        1. Shadow of darkness
          Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 12: 07
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          The State Department is trying to save the whole “face” - although the United States has long had a pork snout.

          More likely rat!
    5. Standard
      Standard 10 November 2017 11: 53
      0
      Quote: Shadow of the Dark
      They humiliate Putin as they can,

      Than???
      Maybe it's you smile degrades as much as possible. So you are not the only and final.
      1. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 10 November 2017 12: 59
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        Before you make yourself Zhvanetsky, read what the forum member writes under the name NasRat and re-read my comments in this light, after that try to poke fun, maybe we’ll laugh together. fool
    6. alex86
      alex86 11 November 2017 22: 11
      +2
      And do not say - they humiliate Putin, and we wipe ourselves off, sanctions are imposed against Putin’s friends - we suffer, Putin raises the GDP by 2 times, and our incomes fall ...
      "Maybe something needs to be fixed at the conservatory?" M.M.Zhvanetsky
  5. pvv113
    pvv113 10 November 2017 10: 10
    +2
    will not take place, said White House Secretary Sarah Sanders. ...
    According to her, the reason is the tight schedule of the head of the White House.

    Is there a White House adequate or not? Trump himself expressed a desire to meet. And this chicken claims some kind of schedule. Does he value the price or want to show the significance of Trump?
  6. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 10 November 2017 10: 11
    0
    Well, let’s say .. It’s not clear that “ours” is something that is so fussing about? A label for reigning in need?
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 10 November 2017 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh
      Well, let’s say .. It’s not clear that “ours” is something that is so fussing about? A label for reigning in need?

      Ours have not fussed like 2 months already (2 months ago Trump took the initiative to meet)
    2. Standard
      Standard 10 November 2017 11: 39
      0
      Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh
      It is incomprehensible only, "ours" is something

      And who are “ours” (in quotation marks) ?.
  7. Loess
    Loess 10 November 2017 10: 17
    +1
    I didn’t really want to ... I generally believe that at the moment they need a meeting of leaders more than we ... probably they just have nothing to offer us ...
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 10 November 2017 10: 17
    +6
    Formal meeting of US and Russian Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin at the APEC Summit in Vietnam will not take place

    But not formal? Trump from Putin to run, will hide?
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 10 November 2017 11: 43
      +1
      Sorry for McCain was not invited ...... lol
  9. HAM
    HAM 10 November 2017 10: 17
    +1
    If Tramplin meets with Putin, they will surely trample him from the White House for "defaming ties with the Kremlin," apparently Killari already called Trump when he was in the air - he was there and changed his shoes.
  10. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 10 November 2017 10: 25
    +1
    Meet me. Where are they going ?! The whole world is looking at the presidents of 2 countries and they suddenly will not meet. The world is on the brink of war, and the Americans suddenly decided that there would be no meeting.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 10 November 2017 10: 43
      +1
      US President nobody. Behind him is the shadow government, which controls his packet. They say they will not meet with GDP and he will not.
      1. Standard
        Standard 10 November 2017 11: 37
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        Quote: Kent0001
        US President nobody

        What's the difference...
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 10 November 2017 10: 46
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      Yes, stop what a war .... we are simply being isolated now .. of course we repeat as a mantra that Russia cannot be isolated, but in reality the constrictor is slowly squeezing its rings .. they are waiting for the GDP to retire and a new president will come (not this if so after five years) - here it will be possible to arrange a new revolution (there are many options), a new Gorbach, etc. ...
      Vova (country) wants to make peace, but it doesn’t depend on him ......
      1. Standard
        Standard 10 November 2017 11: 37
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        Quote: Nasr
        Vova (country) wants to make peace, but it doesn’t depend on him ......

        That's right.
        Even if Vova really longs to make peace.
        The fact is that the USA is a country where "the ax is already laid at the roots."
        That is, she has to be destroyed. And Russian “feelings” (together with weapons) are an instrument for the destruction of the United States. Everything has been destined for a long time.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 10 November 2017 11: 48
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          I repeat .....

          Blessed is he who believes !!! hi
  11. Monarchist
    Monarchist 10 November 2017 11: 09
    0
    A meeting between Putin and Truss will take place, a meeting will not take place;
    But seriously, the protocol makers are probing the limits of mutual concessions.
    Trump can not meet to no avail (image). Russia and China do not want “swaras” under the windows, otherwise the “bubble” and “shaggy” will not calm down. "Hawks" will not allow "to merge" Kiev, and V.V. will not "surrender" Donbass
  12. Standard
    Standard 10 November 2017 11: 32
    0
    The USA was scared of our media.
    "crawling trump" is strong.
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  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2017 11: 50
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    .... Sarah Sanders

    It seems to me that this can completely untie Russia's hands and finally begin to act as it should in such situations.
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 November 2017 11: 57
    0
    A formal meeting between US and Russian presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin will not take place at the APEC summit in Vietnam, said White House Secretary Sarah Sanders.

    ... or this Sarah Sanders doesn’t know anything, or stupidly misleads ... on TV, marked “Lightning” they transmitted D. Peskov’s statements that the meeting between the Darkest and the Trump WILL HAPPEN ...
  16. kos2910
    kos2910 10 November 2017 12: 19
    0
    Trump was afraid that he would be caught in connections with Moscow .... How afraid he is of his liberals - horror directly. Why the hell are you talking to such a puppet?
  17. PalBor
    PalBor 10 November 2017 14: 59
    +2
    Mr. Nasr ...
    And also, judging by your words:
    -You are quite a big businessman;
    -you have 350 slaves;
    -You pay them every month (and on TC must every two weeks);
    -time to sit on the site;
    -work is adjusted - money is dripping;
    -you ideological Gaidar-Khodorkovets.
    It's boring.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 10 November 2017 15: 20
      0
      Quote: PalBor
      Mr. Nasr ...
      And also, judging by your words:
      -You are quite a big businessman;
      -you have 350 slaves;
      -You pay them every month (and on TC must every two weeks);
      -time to sit on the site;
      -work is adjusted - money is dripping;
      -you ideological Gaidar-Khodorkovets.
      It's boring.

      Really boring ... I read local bragging speeches and horror takes ... And when you get your money, you always thank the President and the Supreme Commander?
      and according to the Labor Code - we know the legislation and exactly one day a day hard workers get their earnings ..
  18. Langf
    Langf 10 November 2017 16: 16
    0
    A tight schedule against the background of banal cowardice. You have principles, and have time to stand up for them. Lord, what kind of renegades these "exceptional" are! All stealth, all quiet hiding.
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 10 November 2017 19: 53
    0
    if you look at the box, the most important question is whether Putin and Trump will meet? The fact of a possible meeting is given a global level. Interesting. Does the same knowledge give this fact in the USA? Political scientists and other verbiage people chew and relish their thoughts, as if this meeting is deciding something. It remains only to the State Duma to write a petition to “Trampunashim” - well, look at least an hour. It seems that the country will not be able to live without this meeting and without it the morning will not come. Disgrace
    1. Standard
      Standard 10 November 2017 22: 54
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      Quote: Overlock
      It seems that the country will not be able to live

      Thanks to our media. Educators.
  20. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 11 November 2017 09: 54
    0
    Why should Putin meet with Trump if he does not decide anything.
  21. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 11 November 2017 21: 24
    0
    Somehow it turns out that in the FSA, the entourage plays without a king, as it were, he doesn’t, so only he signs a sale contract - a purely nominal figure, at least to this day! There is no agenda and there will be no business either! hi