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Expert: US exercises in the Pacific threaten to start a war with North Korea

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The exercises of the American aircraft carrier strike groups (ACG) in the Western Pacific threaten to unleash a war against North Korea: the concentration of three ACGs means the readiness of the US naval forces to conduct military operations, the former commander of the Baltic fleet (2001-2006) Admiral Vladimir Valuev.


As the press service of the US Navy 7 fleet reported earlier on Thursday, three US carrier strike groups will conduct exercises in the Pacific Ocean on the Korean Peninsula from 11 to 14 in November; The aircraft carriers Ronald Reagan, Nimitz and Theodore Roosevelt will participate in them, around 20 cruisers, squadron destroyers and several nuclear submarines.

This is a direct threat of the outbreak of war against North Korea, and with clear advantages of the United States.
- declared Valuev.

Expert: US exercises in the Pacific threaten to start a war with North Korea


He explained that the carrier strike group, where one aircraft carrier, is the most powerful operational-tactical compound.

Operational strike connection, where several aircraft carriers - this is a huge power. Each aircraft carrier has 100 airplanes, of which 60% are drums that can be bombed along the coast, across the country
- clarified the Russian admiral.

According to him, against American AUG "you can effectively fight cruise missiles or nuclear submarines, which North Korea does not have."

Valuev noted that “around the carrier strike force is an anti-aircraft defense zone with a probability of 0,9 destroying enemy aircraft and cruise missiles; an anti-submarine defense zone” that the North Korean diesel-electric submarines will not be able to force.

Destroy this group under appropriate conditions before lifting the deck aviation. If North Korea had such cruise missiles as the Russian coast or ship-based Caliber, such an opportunity could be considered
Said the admiral.

Of course, they can hit the American AUG with ballistic missiles, but this is a nuclear conflict with all the ensuing consequences.
- Added Valuev.

Previous exercises involving the three US Navy carrier strike groups were held in 2006-2007 in the area of ​​the American island of Guam. The current maneuvers coincided with increased tensions around the DPRK, reports RIA News
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    2. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 9 November 2017 20: 16
      11
      Yes, "learn" and run away ..... For the first time or something! he he
      If before, they could not do anything with the DPRK, now it is time for the gentlemen to agree, you slammed another country and it sent you on a long voyage.!
      Your gut is weak Euna extinguish (we observe and control all this)))

      Well done Eun!
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 9 November 2017 20: 24
        11
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        The current maneuvers coincided with increased tension around the DPRK, RIA Novosti reports.

        At the beginning of the year, three aircraft carriers also arrived on the shores of North Korea and ..... left back. laughing
        1. 210ox
          210ox 9 November 2017 20: 30
          +3
          and ..... went back. laughing // Ponte is over ..
          Quote: 79807420129
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          The current maneuvers coincided with increased tension around the DPRK, RIA Novosti reports.

          At the beginning of the year, three aircraft carriers also arrived on the shores of North Korea and ..... left back. laughing
          1. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 10 November 2017 07: 24
            0
            Well, there would be some aircraft carriers hovering around. There a lot of troughs swims and wants to kill.
            January 2017 The US Ticonderoga missile cruiser - the Ticonderoga class - ran aground off the coast of Japan. This information was provided to the specialized Navy Times by two sources in the US Navy. According to the publication, the incident occurred on the eve when the ship anchored in the Tokyo Bay near the American naval base in Yokosuka, near the Japanese capital.
            On May 9, 2017, in international waters off the coast of the Republic of Korea, the missile cruiser CG-57 Lake Champlain collided with a small South Korean fishing vessel 502 Nam Yang. There were no injuries. The collision occurred in conditions of poor visibility. According to representatives of the Navy, the ship's crew gave the required sound signals, but the fishermen did not have time to change course in time.
            On June 17, 2017, off the southern coast of Japan, the American destroyer DDG-62 Fitzgerald collided with an ACX Crystal container ship sailing under the flag of the Philippines. The incident occurred at night in fine weather. The cargo ship crashed into the starboard side of the ship, the destroyer received serious damage, including a hole below the waterline. Seven American sailors were killed, who were flooded in the engine room. Three were injured, including the commander of the ship, Commander Bruce Benson.
            According to the results of the investigation, published by the U.S. authorities on August 17, 2017, guards in the incident were found on guard sailors of the destroyer, who, in violation of the International Ship Collision Avoidance Rules (COLREGS-72), did not provide an advantage to the merchant ship moving to the right. After the accident, the ship was sent for a long repair.
            On August 21, 2017, in the Strait of Malacca east of Singapore, the US Navy missile destroyer John S. McCain (like Arleigh Burke) collided with an Alnic MC tanker sailing under the Liberian flag.
            The warship suffered damage to the stern, ten of its sailors are reported missing.
            There are not enough aircraft carriers in this list yet. And it would be necessary. To complete the picture.
        2. The_lancet
          The_lancet 9 November 2017 21: 20
          +2
          At the beginning of the year, three aircraft carriers also arrived on the shores of North Korea and ..... left back. laughing

          You forgot to add "conducted exercises."
          And then after all the tasks were gone.
          The fleet is large. Everyone needs to learn. This is their interest.
          Study this time
          three american carrier strike groups
          1. Going
            Going 9 November 2017 21: 29
            13
            Yes, no one is against, but why are you rattling your arms thousands of miles from your country.
            1. The_lancet
              The_lancet 9 November 2017 21: 36
              +5
              thousands of miles from your country

              There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.
              1. Going
                Going 9 November 2017 21: 40
                13
                Yes, please, DPRK do not bully and there will be peace and tranquility, do you understand this?
              2. kirgiz58
                kirgiz58 9 November 2017 22: 19
                12
                Quote: The_Lancet
                There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.

                Why are you screaming when we and Belarus conduct exercises in our territories.
                1. zivXP
                  zivXP 9 November 2017 22: 39
                  +2
                  So they are exceptional, as they consider themselves.
              3. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 9 November 2017 23: 03
                +3
                Quote: The_Lancet
                thousands of miles from your country

                There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.

                If Russia conducts exercises with an ally of Venezuela, for example, with your nuclear triad there, on your island, will your citizens wet the diapers?
                1. The_lancet
                  The_lancet 9 November 2017 23: 13
                  +1
                  If Russia conducts exercises with an ally of Venezuela, for example

                  For example, the situation in Venezuela is very sad. And the Russians are not helping request
                  1. dubovitsckij.viktor
                    dubovitsckij.viktor 10 November 2017 01: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: The_Lancet
                    If Russia conducts exercises with an ally of Venezuela, for example

                    For example, the situation in Venezuela is very sad. And the Russians are not helping request

                    This is because your there is not wet. There will be more fun in Afghanistan.
              4. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 9 November 2017 23: 31
                +6
                Quote: The_Lancet
                thousands of miles from your country

                There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.

                Good “allies”))) The whole “alliance” is that there are thousands of contingents of American, and essentially occupying, troops on the territory of South Korea and Japan that serve as the barrel of a gun at the temple of the “ward”. Today, the United States is essentially ready to sacrifice the well-being of the "allies" and hundreds of thousands of lives of citizens of these countries in order to satisfy their ambitions to maintain their status as a world gendarme. You see, “respected”, it is possible that at the initial stage using high-tech weapons, the USA will be able to crush command posts, missile mines, infrastructure, etc., but then the phase of ground operations will inevitably come, where the mattresses i.e. “Rangers” are traditionally weak and will inevitably be defeated by analogy with Vietnam. Losing such a “button” on the world map will mean a global defeat for the United States. You are specialists in starting a war, but there is not a single war in which you have finally won and have shown the world some kind of model in a military space where life has become better than before the outbreak of hostilities.
          2. 79807420129
            79807420129 9 November 2017 21: 43
            13
            Quote: The_Lancet
            Study this time

            Well, God forbid that we would just study yes Here I am interested in this question: -What would you say if our two SSBNs “Vladimir Monomakh” and “Alexander Nevsky” also conduct exercises, well, let's say off the coast of California, and off the coast of Alaska, for example, “Yuri Dolgoruky will train, shoot missiles there, what kind of reaction would you have? Moreover, China would conduct a joint exercise with us, would also adjust its Liaoning, so that it would be possible to observe your reaction. hi
            1. The_lancet
              The_lancet 9 November 2017 23: 19
              +1
              will conduct exercises, say, off the coast of California, and off the coast of Alaska, for example, "Yuri Dolgoruky" will be trained

              And what could be the reasons request ? For missile launches off the coast of the United States.?
              There are no reasons.
              There were no such exercises before. Their probability in the future is small. I only heard about the flights of Russian planes (heavy bombers) in these places.
              1. To be or not to be
                To be or not to be 9 November 2017 23: 30
                +2
                Well, why wasn’t. Cuba was. with missiles in response to your missiles in Turkey .. WAS terrible?
                "Anadyr" was called. The absolute minimum temperature in Anadyr was -47 ° C.
                "Do you even understand what you are doing?"
                America has long played in war.
              2. Guillon
                Guillon 10 November 2017 08: 44
                0
                Yes, you have brains on the back and this is not treated! The megalomania of the USA is contagious! wassat
              3. dubovitsckij.viktor
                dubovitsckij.viktor 11 November 2017 01: 00
                +2
                Quote: The_Lancet
                will conduct exercises, say, off the coast of California, and off the coast of Alaska, for example, "Yuri Dolgoruky" will be trained

                And what could be the reasons request ? For missile launches off the coast of the United States.?
                There are no reasons.
                There were no such exercises before. Their probability in the future is small. I only heard about the flights of Russian planes (heavy bombers) in these places.

                Why no reason? There is. The first is to make the American citizen feel that no Rambo will help them. And let them begin to study the geography and history of the peoples of the Earth.
                The second one. To teach them the concept that the Earth belongs not only to them.
        3. Partyzan
          Partyzan 9 November 2017 21: 27
          +7
          Quote: 79807420129
          and ..... went back.

          it’s true that they then searched for a long time, roofing felts went wrong, roofing felts were looking there lol
        4. Vanek
          Vanek 10 November 2017 10: 14
          +1
          Quote: 79807420129
          three aircraft carriers also arrived


          - Do you know why they did not touch us!?!? *
        5. Guru
          Guru 10 November 2017 12: 58
          0
          Not three, but two. And without preparation. And now you are prepared and you can wait for anything.
      2. forester
        forester 9 November 2017 21: 45
        +4
        Yes, this is not a threat to Koreans, but to us, immediately three AUGs near our eastern borders. There is no oil or gas in Korea, so their mattresses will not be touched, Korea is just an excuse for concentrating its fleet in the Pacific Ocean.
      3. Mikhail Zubkov
        Mikhail Zubkov 10 November 2017 00: 32
        0
        They should have brought a couple of AUGs there - and fleets of “allies” from all oceans! And study, study - and study again! How to develop fleet resources ...
      4. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 10 November 2017 02: 13
        0
        And how Koreans clang with nuclear missiles, how much scrap metal will be. And it’s better to sell rocket engines to the DPRK than to the "exclusive" ones.
      5. rpek32
        rpek32 10 November 2017 02: 46
        +5


        beckoning, tell the respected members of the forum your reasons swift career growth?
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 10 November 2017 09: 50
          0
          "If you want to live beautifully And close to the bosses, Keep your ass high, And your head low!" (folk wisdom).
          In my summers I should not dare to have my own judgment.

          Griboyedov
          There are guys (on the site) like Vadim Smirnov. It can add moderators ... it can ban ... And this uncle is politically reminded to me both in the style of writing and in the zeal of comments ...
          1. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 10 November 2017 16: 58
            +2
            Quote: Esoteric
            And this uncle is reminded of me by the Political Department both in writing style and in the zeal of comments

            And I do not remind you of it by chance? That curly you remind me ..)) No offense .. just a comment!

            There are many like me in Russia .. hi
            Are you angry that I protect the North Koreans ..? Defended and will defend, proud and hardworking people! I even envy them a little ..
        2. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 10 November 2017 16: 44
          +2
          Quote: rpek32


          beckoning, tell the respected members of the forum your reasons swift career growth?

          Envy is a sin! All questions to forum users ..... I myself am surprised! Thank you guys, then I write from the heart .. And this is the main thing for me! As the song is sung in my beloved ... (when I write it plays in my soul ..))))
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 10 November 2017 18: 08
            0
            I realized this is you, Political Department. Crap further. I am not interested in paper ratings of forums, I respect the DPRK for the resilience of their people and the leader’s inflexibility. And I do not respect those who betray their former socialist camp friends for the sake of the American dollar. And you sing both this and that. In a word - cheers patriot. Young people like it. Since ancient times, not smart and alcoholics have pity on Russia ...
            1. Barshchik-M
              Barshchik-M 10 November 2017 18: 27
              +2
              Quote: Esoteric
              I realized this is you, Political Department. Crap further. I am not interested in paper ratings of forums, I respect the DPRK for the resilience of their people and the leader’s inflexibility. And I do not respect those who betray their former socialist camp friends for the sake of the American dollar. And you sing both this and that. In a word - cheers patriot. Young people like it. Since ancient times, not smart and alcoholics have spared in Russia...

              You didn’t understand anything “twice a senior citizen” .. hi You have a strange comment and way of thinking ...
              Anger strangles you obviously and the pension is small and the roads are bad .. Someone offended you clearly from relatives and officials .. hehe I guessed? Go down to earth and you will be happy, just talk .. Good luck!
              And I went to the next attack .. Checkers bare!
          2. rpek32
            rpek32 11 November 2017 16: 48
            0
            Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

            Envy is a sin!

            envy of what? rating out of thin air drawn? beckoning don't make people laugh laughing
      6. siberalt
        siberalt 10 November 2017 06: 30
        0
        Zadolbal already these self-named "iskperty" on all fronts of the media! Let them at least learn basic knowledge of geography. lol
    3. ochakow703
      ochakow703 9 November 2017 20: 17
      10
      In vain do you fool around, this moon-faced boy is only trying to defend himself and protect his country from the imposition of "democratic" values ​​by your country. I can not say anything in support of Eun, but Trump is a decent bastard if he dares to encroach on this long-suffering country. How much the rope does not curl, and the end will be - in the sense, the mouse will shed tears of cat.
    4. Going
      Going 9 November 2017 20: 19
      11
      The_lancet


      You can’t even imagine what margarine your country is in.
      1. Titsen
        Titsen 9 November 2017 21: 40
        +4
        Quote: Going
        The_lancet


        You can’t even imagine what margarine your country is in.


        I suggest - the colors of children's surprise!
        1. Going
          Going 9 November 2017 21: 43
          +9
          Yes, and the smell is appropriate.
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 9 November 2017 20: 07
    +6
    Russia and China can get very angry. And what are the insiders? The Chinese say that oil futures from the new year will buy for the yuan or for gold. That is, the Chinese already say that they are rude to the Nedets. What does it mean? And FIG knows him. I'm not an ekperd
    1. Going
      Going 9 November 2017 20: 17
      +8
      They won’t get angry, they - we just won’t allow it, and the USA will silently rub themselves and crawl to the side.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 20: 25
        +5
        The mattresses themselves know what not to rock the DPRK. The main goal - the deployment of missile defense in South Korea has been achieved, plus additional secondary goals, so that now the US will cheek for decency and will slowly begin to deflate under a plausible excuse.
        1. Going
          Going 9 November 2017 20: 27
          +9
          Here lancet was blown away, and his country is blown away, the days of US lawlessness have passed.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 20: 32
            +6
            Quote: Going
            Here is a lanset

            lol I foresaw this, and therefore did not comment on his passage in the direction of Kim Jong-un.
            Quote: Going
            the times of lawlessness in the USA have passed.

            The bad news is that Matrasia herself does not want to admit it in any way. That behaves like an elderly impotent in bed with a young courtesan. laughing
            1. Going
              Going 9 November 2017 20: 38
              +6
              I would say how old she is .... ist, since he could only communicate by phone and was expecting a child, everyone passed this intersection.
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 9 November 2017 21: 20
              +3
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              did not comment on his passage in the direction of Kim Jong-un.

              Yeitot Eun is an ordinary gopnik. He knows that big uncles will protect him, because the Yankees are on Our shores. No one thinks about its shores. Why do you think Mr. C and Mr. Pu supported the US sanctions? Abarzel from end to end. We have nothing more to do than to defend purely Juche according to their ideology. We really need to lower Kim’s nose a little; otherwise, the Yankees will wet the eggs. hi
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 27
                +7
                hi I am by no means defending Eun, but the fact is that it was not Eun who brought a crowd of beatniks under the door to Mattress, but quite the opposite.
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 9 November 2017 21: 42
                  +1
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  I am by no means defending Eun, but the fact is that it was not Eun who brought a crowd of beatniks under the door to Mattress, but quite the opposite.

                  Exactly. This gopnik brought a threat to our borders. Well, we have air defense specialists a hundred kilometers from the border is already a universal schukher. There, air defense officers have long been unmeasured, - Aviation 4 regiments additionally, located airfields for small Strategists. In general, to finish off the FSU’s American gang without blinking an eye for a couple of seconds. So Yeitot expert is right. Two fools clash - war and a trend for everyone
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 51
                    +4
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Two fools

                    That's for sure. It would be better if they measured their pipettes and went home.
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 9 November 2017 22: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      It would be better to measure pipisky and went home

                      I said. For Americans, pipiska is secondary, most importantly Ivory Eggs. And the fact that in the Guard units their giant piers are of little interest is that they will retreat to a safe distance and will again show that they are prevented from dancing.
                      True, it’s not interesting. Well, flew in. If you got into trouble and did not crouch, then you will fall. This is the basis of air defense.
                      I wonder how they will respond to the words of Mr. C. voiced in the head of the post
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 22: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: Tusv
                        I wonder how they will respond to the words of Mr. C. voiced in the head of the post

                        Mattresses are clearly not happy - such a decision by China will definitely shake the position of the dollar as a single world currency, there is no doubt about it. Another question is that the Chinese may well use this to put pressure on Matrasia and knock out some preferences unknown to us.
                  2. Fedya2017
                    Fedya2017 9 November 2017 23: 05
                    +3
                    Quote: Tusv
                    In general, to finish off the FSU’s American grouping without blinking an eye for a couple of seconds.

                    My dear man, in order to "unfasten" only ONE Amer’s AUG, a volley of 80-100 anti-ship missiles will be required. And the simultaneous combined attack of surface and submarine ships of the entire Pacific Fleet and aviation. That's just to organize such an attack is much more difficult than to say ... At the same time, there is little left of the Pacific Fleet. For your information, AUG in amers is -10. Do you have enough hats and tarpaulin boots to throw at least 3 such AUGs that are now there?
                    1. alexddd
                      alexddd 10 November 2017 08: 01
                      +1
                      Why volley of 100 missiles? The AUG includes one aircraft carrier and 8-10 warships, plus one, two submarines. 10 missiles per ship? If with a special combat unit, then with one blow to the location you can cover. Or do you think that when attacking us there will be gentlemanly rules for choosing weapons. Well, in the war with Libya, Iraq, the USA didn’t use the level of armaments of the opponents, they would have fought without the use of cruise missiles, aircraft carriers and other sophisticated equipment, but they were not suppressed by technical superiority. And it means they want to force us to fight without the use of thermonuclear warheads? Well this is super impudence! Hutspa is shorter.
                      1. Fedya2017
                        Fedya2017 10 November 2017 11: 12
                        0
                        Quote: alexddd
                        If with a special combat unit, then with one blow to the location you can cover

                        Actually, you can ... But then they will fly back with a special combat unit. And there will be no winners ... Only cockroaches will survive on this planet Earth.
            3. Partyzan
              Partyzan 9 November 2017 21: 29
              +7
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              The bad news is that Matrasia herself does not want to admit it in any way.

              but how at all to say that you are impotent? at least a pencil should be tied lol
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 36
                +4
                Quote: Partyzan
                at least a pencil should be tied

                This is what happens: the HERE spindle on a stretcher? lol
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 9 November 2017 21: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  This is what happens: the HERE spindle on a stretcher?

                  and a magnet on the neck laughing
              2. kirgiz58
                kirgiz58 9 November 2017 22: 29
                +6
                Quote: Partyzan
                at least a pencil should be tied

                If you attach a pencil to a member, you get ..... a corresponding member. laughing
            4. PalBor
              PalBor 9 November 2017 21: 30
              +2
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Quote: Going
              Here is a lanset

              lol I foresaw this, and therefore did not comment on his passage in the direction of Kim Jong-un.
              Quote: Going
              the times of lawlessness in the USA have passed.

              The bad news is that Matrasia herself does not want to admit it in any way. That behaves like an elderly impotent in bed with a young courtesan. laughing

              Wasting money? smile
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 34
                +4
                Quote: PalBor
                Wasting money?

                Exactly . And not only to the courtesan, but also to Viagra. wassat
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2017 21: 36
        +1
        Yes, just as we did not allow the United States - in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Ukraine.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 9 November 2017 20: 18
      +8
      As I wrote earlier, most likely Russia and China will provide an air defense umbrella over North Korea. And the polite submarines of the two countries, in the event of the beginning of actions, will sink the US aircraft carrier and then everyone will condemn Sev. Korea.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 9 November 2017 20: 31
        +2
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        As I wrote earlier, most likely Russia and China will provide an air defense umbrella over North Korea.

        From the point of view of air defense it is very difficult, it is necessary to get out of sanctions. Well, we can dunk ballistic missiles, just as threatening security, but according to the Kyrgyz Republic, alas, we can only issue target designations.
      2. Partyzan
        Partyzan 9 November 2017 21: 31
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        and then everyone will condemn Sev. Korea.

        well, someone should be extreme, not polite submarines laughing
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2017 21: 38
        +4
        All our confrontation, together with China, against the United States, in the event of a war with the DPRK, will be held by a skirmish of the Foreign Ministries and no more.
    3. Esoteric
      Esoteric 10 November 2017 09: 56
      +2
      Quote: Tusv
      Russia and China can get very angry.

      Throw you about the angry Russia. It already from the explosions of gas pipelines in the Crimea should be at the point of steam formation. I repeat again:
      Lavrov and his department will compose a response note in the bunker when we melt from American missiles brought with Russian engines. You have not yet noticed that the people in Russia for power are like an interior. From time to time, old things are thrown away so that the eyes "do not callus." Because of this, there is no population growth in Russia ...
  3. newcomer
    newcomer 9 November 2017 20: 15
    +8
    it’s hard to argue with the admiral’s opinion. I don’t like it. Oh, how you do not like it. Well this is on our eastern heel. damn, I said somehow, the Yankees blew Syria, they begin to stir up on the other side. although, given the “Anaconda,” everything goes according to plan: creating chaos around the perimeter of our borders. I see no other way out than to give the Yankees a nose. after all, all this instability from the perimeter of the borders can flow inward. we cannot constantly extinguish fires where the Yankees kindle them, there will not be enough lives or funds. it is necessary to punish the scorcher himself.
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 November 2017 20: 18
    0
    Expert: US exercises in the Pacific threaten to start a war with North Korea
    Well, ESPERD in the ranks of the admiral is still unknown from which trough slurping. It seems to be clear that after Leonov’s stars you need to take care of yours and "do not go to the buffet." (For the Admirals, if I made a mistake, so I ask the pardon, my hand is wide, I hit the kid)
    It lies, floats, is projected ...... Sleep calmly, citizen-comrade. (So ​​you are a citizen admiral, you should not pull off Matryna’s grandmother and the horror in horror, but yourself ... or were you not on guard for that? Or your pension was written off?) No dear order bearer. I do not subscribe to your OPOSAYS. Common crap.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 9 November 2017 20: 31
      +2
      subscribe to the VO website and you can change your epaulettes for naval ones, sure thing ....
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 9 November 2017 21: 42
        0
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        subscribe to the VO website and you can change your epaulettes for naval ones, sure thing ....

        I didn’t understand anything (on the assignment, of course, I myself am like that, all my life in the barns). But thanks. Navy, dreamed of living all. But ..... maybe not worthy. THIS IS HONOR. I'm Soviet and in age, oh.
        Old Man in Kamchatka served, drowned.
  5. ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 November 2017 20: 25
    +3
    In, and where did this American patsak go? I wholeheartedly thought of him, I thought to reason, and he, once and so on ....... l ... Ordinary.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 9 November 2017 20: 28
      +2
      So here they are, Americans wink repeat winked .....
    2. Going
      Going 9 November 2017 20: 29
      +9
      Quote: ochakow703
      In, and where did this American patsak go? I wholeheartedly thought of him, I thought to reason, and he, once and so on ....... l ... Ordinary.


      I realized that they would tear it up now, just like a Tuzik heating pad.
    3. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 20: 41
      +5
      He acted like a true American: he felt that he smelled fried and left without saying goodbye. lol Or one of the moderators "helped" him to leave ...
      1. Going
        Going 9 November 2017 21: 09
        +7
        It seemed to me that he himself understood everything ...
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 12
          +4
          If so, honor and praise be to him: not everyone is able to admit their mistakes, especially among Americans.
          1. Going
            Going 9 November 2017 21: 25
            +6
            You know about the American, I doubt it, but the lost sheep, that's it.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 31
              +3
              Well, maybe a sheep. Then you need a good shepherd with a strong drina. lol
              1. Going
                Going 9 November 2017 21: 45
                +6
                For me, it's better to stake.
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 November 2017 21: 55
      0
      Quote: ochakow703
      In, and where did this American patsak go? I wholeheartedly thought of him, I thought to reason, and he, once and so on ....... l ... Ordinary.

      Yes, no, they are normal moroman. To wash a washcloth that is not right, but they have money and 3 villas, but here’s how otvetku ....
      Do we need this?
      The question is: how will I give it to you all ... Ah, good. And the answer ... Do we need it?
      So the discussion, let's eat a hamburger, huh?
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 9 November 2017 20: 28
    +7
    Another window dressing of mattresses will end in zilch. As they sailed, they sailed away.
    1. Going
      Going 9 November 2017 20: 42
      +6
      Here is the correct expression - sailed ... "Repin's picture - sailed."
  7. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 November 2017 20: 36
    +4
    Destroy this group under appropriate conditions before lifting the carrier-based aircraft.
    The Soviet fleet was faced with such a crucial task. And in the case of the DPRK, aircraft carriers can simply get closer to it as far as possible and begin their aerospace operation in the conveyor mode until the resource and reserves are completely depleted, that is, for a very long time, given that they will be constantly replenished from their bases. The situation clearly shows that one "mosquito" fleet (to protect its own shores) is clearly not enough for Russia, because the question arises as to what forces can stand the wall between the DPRK and these aircraft carriers. Our nuclear weapons are clearly redundant in such a situation, and a simple demonstration of the flag is clearly insufficient.
  8. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 9 November 2017 20: 47
    +2
    It’s as if the United States is not aliens but aliens and they are working to destroy our world: they provoke a nuclear conflict and support terrorists and kill civilians everywhere, so would people do that? request
  9. PalBor
    PalBor 9 November 2017 20: 49
    +3
    Before Vietnam and Trump meet in Vietnam there will be no blow. A meeting, most likely tomorrow. Either Trumpush will surprise either Comrade X with a blow to Syria, or while they waltz around the peninsula. But for the blow - 5 percent.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 9 November 2017 20: 55
      +4
      it will be a very painful blow to the image of our GDP. I hope our all calculated and calculated. it's all very bad. the reaction of our commander in chief will be much tougher than the iron smile of X.
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 9 November 2017 21: 09
        +3
        I hope Melania’s husband understands this too ...
        Although for the flags over the towers ... sorry, they have not yet answered the consulate.
  10. izya top
    izya top 9 November 2017 20: 52
    +5
    our teachings in OWN territory are an act of aggression, and the Yankees EVERYWHERE fight for democracy request maybe we are learning something wrong? recourse
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 20: 58
      +5
      Andrei hi
      Quote: izya top
      maybe we are learning something wrong?

      It's simple: mattresses are “exceptional” and everything is possible for them. And the “non-exclusive” Russians greatly interfere with mattresses by putting sticks in the wheels and questioning the status of “exceptional”.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 9 November 2017 21: 02
        +3
        our Slavic civilization is like a bone in the throat, from time immemorial. we are creators, they are destroyers.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 08
          +3
          And that too, Garik. hi They can not understand the mentality of the Slavs in any way, therefore, all their actions regarding the Slavs come down to the following: either they redraw to the Western standard, or they try to erase the face of the Earth if it did not work out. I will not give examples - everyone knows them.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 9 November 2017 21: 26
            +7
            Paul, hi And there was a time, Stanyukovich seemed to write how the Yankees looked into the mouth of the Russian sailors when they rescued them during the war of independence. Really - an extremely ungrateful people!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 21: 54
              +4
              Hello Valentine! hi It was like that - he painted in great detail how they respected the Russians for it. Another thing is interesting: already at that time Stanyukovich was struck by the fact that everyone in the USA was obsessed with money! yes
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 9 November 2017 22: 31
                +6
                Well um. God forbid that we never catch up with them in this. drinks
                Although on TV that day I hear commercials - "I only believe in banknotes." Ugh, damn it! am
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 9 November 2017 22: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  God forbid that we never catch up with them in this. drinks

                  I support. drinks We have always been distinguished by the fact that spiritual values ​​are higher than material ones for us. But in the generation corrupted by the corrupting influence of the West after the collapse of the USSR, I’m not sure ... negative
              2. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 10 November 2017 01: 38
                0
                that everyone in the US is obsessed with money!

                We simply have different ideals: among the Slavs: homeland, honor, valor, fatherland, justice, and they have only profit, they are a world-class capitalist mafia and apart from money and power, there are no ideals, and all the ways to get them are encouraged.
  11. rruvim
    rruvim 9 November 2017 21: 13
    +2
    Valuev, although a respected admiral, but "drives" ... The so-called "teachings" of the US AUG in the Pacific Ocean, the usual rotation of the Ships. Occurs annually, according to the schedule. Everyone is already used to it. And, if, somewhere two or three units more, it doesn’t mean that the “IMPACT” group is already right ... Still, there should be many factors for the blow, I’ll list only the main and “stupidly” visible ones ” with the naked eye ":
    1. Hysteria in the media;
    2. Diplomacy of the gunboats;
    3. “Enlisting” the support of “interested” countries;
    4. Activity of the AES reconnaissance assets when flying over the probable territory of the conflict;
    5. Chartering of civil vessels for "military" logistics ";
    6. Recall of civilian specialists from the conflict zone.
    etc....
    In any case, paragraph 3 with respect to the DPRK has not yet been implemented.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 November 2017 21: 31
      0
      Quote: rruvim
      Valuev, although a respected admiral, but "drives" ... The so-called "teachings" of the US AUG in the Pacific Ocean, the usual rotation of the Ships.

      Actually, if someone "drives", then this is the "press service of the 7th fleet of the US Navy," because it was they who announced the exercises, not the rotation
      http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Display/Articl
      e / 1368374 / three-carrier-strike-force-exercise-to-
      commence-in-western-pacific /
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 9 November 2017 21: 41
        0
        Here we are talking about combining (supposedly for the first time) three strike groups from the "time of Ochakov and the conquest of the Crimea." What kind of strike groups, in addition to the name of the aircraft carriers (they are constantly hanging out there)? Which association? Via Wi-Fi or through the D-link? Or were they just "bored" at a distance of "a thousand" kilometers near "each other"?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 November 2017 21: 59
          0
          Just the headquarters of the 7th fleet will in practice work out the management of three AUGs at the same time.
          Honestly, I do not get a bit into your complaints to the admiral.
          There, the Americans were hysterical because of exercises at the Ashuluk training ground, "near the Ukrainian borders." Was it a deal?
          Why? Because the exercises a) can become a cover for the deployment of a group of forces for a surprise strike, b) increase the likelihood of erroneous actions by the warring parties to the conflict, which can transfer the confrontation to the "hot" phase
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 9 November 2017 22: 16
            0
            The claim to the Admiral is that he, in addition to commonplace things about the threat from the United States, which is already understandable, specifically says that this is a threat to the DPRK. Or maybe China? Or maybe the Americans just decided to check, once again, their satellite connection?
            The scale of the teachings is characteristic of the 7th fleet, it has always been and God forbid it will be. And the aircraft carriers in these exercises are "not the first freshness." And if Vladimir Prokofievich also claims that if the DPRK had "caliber" missiles, then ... you can consider the possibility of destruction. Was he really the commander of the BF, or was he "misinterpreted" by journalists?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2017 21: 48
      +2
      South Korea and Japan have a limited interest in North Korea disappearing. But the United States will not start a war, since the DPRK is an excellent scarecrow for selling weapons to countries in the Asian region, as well as expanding its missile defense.
  12. Sergey53
    Sergey53 9 November 2017 21: 29
    0
    Yes, they can make it for the APEC summit in Vietnam. Trump has already done that. His manner.
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 9 November 2017 21: 43
    +1
    Quote: The_Lancet
    thousands of miles from your country

    There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.

    Oh, he opened his eyes to us ... And then we did not know ... But there is a difference, one ..., the other is teasing!
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 9 November 2017 21: 45
    +1
    Quote: Doliva63
    Paul, hi And there was a time, Stanyukovich seemed to write how the Yankees looked into the mouth of the Russian sailors when they rescued them during the war of independence. Really - an extremely ungrateful people!

    Well, there is someone to learn from them ... There is one place in BV !!!
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 9 November 2017 21: 54
    +2
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    did not comment on his passage in the direction of Kim Jong-un.

    Yeitot Eun is an ordinary gopnik. He knows that big uncles will protect him, because the Yankees are on Our shores. No one thinks about its shores. Why do you think Mr. C and Mr. Pu supported the US sanctions? Abarzel from end to end. We have nothing more to do than to defend purely Juche according to their ideology. We really need to lower Kim’s nose a little; otherwise, the Yankees will wet the eggs. hi

    What do you advise, what needs to be done to US, if you can’t even call OUR President humanly? Or take off your cross or put on your underpants! Decide who is OUR for you!
  16. rruvim
    rruvim 9 November 2017 22: 00
    0
    In general, besides the "alarmist" of Admiral Valuev, anyone can assume that the "concentration" of three American AUGs in the western part of the Pacific Ocean is a THREAT. But historically - IT WAS ALWAYS. More or less density. But a quote from a respected admiral: "An operational strike force, where several aircraft carriers are a huge force. Each aircraft carrier has 100 aircraft, 60% of which are drums that can be bombed along the coast, around the country." - it's just THING! Not only America "discovered", but also "opened". If our top (albeit former) admirals in the "head" have such numbers, percentages, and even motivation for the strike means of each of the American aircraft carriers, then I have no place to hide for the "sofa" strategist ...
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 9 November 2017 23: 30
      +1
      Quote: rruvim
      If our top (albeit former) admirals in the "head" have such numbers, percentages, and even motivation for the strike means of each of the American aircraft carriers, then I have no place to hide for the "sofa" strategist ...

      The admiral is right. He knows what he is saying ... Because he is an admiral. And you are just a “couch strategist,” who can chat as he pleases ... Nobody cares what you write. Because you are not an admiral, and you are wrong ...
  17. kefan
    kefan 9 November 2017 22: 31
    0
    The concentration of three AUG mattresses at one point is very good. In general, you can kill several “birds with one stone” at once with one shot.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 9 November 2017 22: 44
      0
      The "concentration" of the three AUGs means that they exchange information 1000-1500 miles apart. And escorts are 30-150 miles away. The western part of the Pacific Ocean allows this. I don’t know what the shot should be? Maybe five times Tungu meteorite wink
  18. zivXP
    zivXP 9 November 2017 22: 41
    +1
    Quote: The_Lancet
    thousands of miles from your country

    There is no difference. There are allies. Sometimes these are exercises with Japan. And sometimes these are exercises with South Korea.

    The best bunker was digging before it was too late.
  19. Tusv
    Tusv 9 November 2017 22: 42
    0
    bouncyhunter,
    and beat out some kind of preferences unknown to us.
    And bullshit. My baby from the Chinese orders all kinds of garbage from China-Auchan resting, what will happen next and where the American loins will be, it’s not difficult to predict.
    Although I didn’t study at their colleges bully
  20. igorek1234
    igorek1234 10 November 2017 03: 56
    +1
    It's just my 11th birthday. I would not want a strong mess to begin on this day.
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 November 2017 05: 23
      0
      Quote: igorek1234
      It's just my 11th birthday. I would not want a strong mess to begin on this day.

      It is a pity that they do not congratulate you in advance. But at least I’ll calm down. Celebrate and don’t worry. The 11th war will not begin. If, and that will begin later, starting from the 13th and then on condition that Vietnam could not agree.
  21. 1536
    1536 10 November 2017 05: 51
    0
    I can be mistaken, but everything that happens around the DPRK is very much like a conspiracy of the United States, perpetuating the presence of its fleet near the borders of Russia in the Dolly East, corrupt China, which also has its own benefits, finally becoming an ally of the United States, and Korea itself, which, despite the sanctions and formidable rhetoric from the USA, got the opportunity to make missiles and nuclear weapons in 600 km from Vladivostok. In the fools - the fourth side. We all know her.
  22. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 10 November 2017 09: 11
    0
    I hope this is another demonstration of power (as the exceptional ones think) ..... but if kneading happens, ON will not think for a long time and will throw nuclear missiles at these carrier strike groups ...
  23. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 10 November 2017 12: 03
    0
    AUG is so bulky and ineffective that everything is like a parade of fighting elephants. Of course, amusement will be for the DPRK watched by their demonstrations, and if something (some sort of a preventive strike) they are fed to make them bistro destroy.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2017 18: 02
      +1
      "AUGs are so bulky and not effective" - ​​You can learn more about their inefficiency.
  24. JR-13
    JR-13 10 November 2017 12: 25
    0
    A show with aircraft carriers is for us. But Trump has long been scratching his hands on two fronts to start a war.
    Trump is a fruit far worse than an old woman. They still hold him and look after him, so that he did not do it ahead of time. This under certain conditions is ready to plunge the whole world into war.
    Eun has long had problems. And as you know, if your neighbor has problems, then you will have problems.
    In which case, we reach the Indian Ocean and wash our boots.
    A nuclear war from Eun is unlikely. He is not unlike the main ones in the White House.
    The hour of "H" is important here and who will judge whom.
    But for starters, they really want to find themselves with their bases and conflicts near Russia.
    It was necessary to look after the neighbors earlier.