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The US Air Force admitted that they are not able to fight with the Russians

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October 30, Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Human Rights Council reported that the US military is collecting biological material from Russian citizens. Many experts immediately began to recall the numerous biological laboratories of the United States located along the perimeter of the borders of the Russian Federation, not without reason suspecting Washington of intentions to develop viruses and infectious diseases intended for the “pinpoint” damage of certain ethnic groups.

Liberal Russian media immediately began to make fun of the Russian president, and even suggested that he was "not in the subject." And "Radio Liberty" immediately devoted several programs to this topic, in which the same point of view was actively supported.

Such synchronous activity cannot but cause the feeling that Vladimir Putin has hit the mark. Especially when you consider that “Freedom” is fully supported by the US government. And such concern on her part looks quite explicable.

So, back in July, 2017 of the United States Air Force announced on the Federal Government Opportunity government procurement website that RNA samples were purchased for samples of the synovial membrane of citizens of the Russian Federation of the Caucasians. The ministry noted that the absence of injuries of the musculoskeletal system, HIV, hepatitis B, C and syphilis should be a prerequisite for the purchase. Donors are required to indicate the region of residence, gender, age, ethnicity, smoking history, medical history, height, weight and other data. The cost of procurement was not specified.

However, for some reason no one paid attention to the fact that biological laboratories, located in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Georgia and some other countries where various viruses and disease strains are being studied, are funded not by the US Air Force, but by “Defense Threat Reduction Agency "(" The United States Department of Defense Threat Reduction Agency "), or USAID -" United States Agency for International Development "(" United States Agency for International Development ").

The US Air Force expressed a desire to acquire 12 samples of RNA and 27 samples of the synovial membrane, producing the synovial fluid necessary for the functioning of the joints. Biomaterials, according to Air Force spokesman Bo Downey, were needed because “currently the Molecular Research Center of the 59 Medical Air Group is conducting studies of the musculoskeletal system to identify various biomarkers associated with injuries.”

For these studies, the Air Force needed two sets of samples - with diseases and control samples of RNA and the synovial membrane. The first set was provided by a “US based company”.

“All fresh frozen samples of synovial tissue and RNA should come from normal donors without injuries to the musculoskeletal system. Samples of synovial tissue and RNA may not match each other, that is, come from different donors. All samples of synovial tissue and RNA should come from people with negative tests for HIV, hepatitis B, hepatitis C and syphilis, ”the contract says.

The veil over the secret was opened in the very center for molecular studies of the 59 medical aviation group.

Here, on condition of anonymity, they stated that the reason for such purchases was the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria. It turned out that modern Russian aircraft such as Su-35, Su-27CM, Su-30CM, Su-34 significantly surpass in admissible overloads not only F-15 and F-16 US Air Force fighter aircraft, but also the latest F- 35.



Piloting it, even with very small overloads in comparison with Russian aircraft, leads to the entry of outside air into the F-35's cabin, which is “enriched” in pairs of spent aviation fuel, with corresponding consequences for the pilot.

But if this deficiency can somehow be eliminated, then another circumstance led to the very real crisis of the entire F-35 program: the fact is that, according to the American edition of the Fiscal Times, which in turn referred to the Pentagon, It requires pilots weighing no more than 62 kg, taking into account the equipment. This is due to the features of the cockpit and the working conditions of the pilots.

As evidenced by the entire history of air combat, a pilot with such a weight is simply not capable of conducting air combat with extreme g-forces. And there is plenty of evidence.

So, during the first encounter with Soviet fighters in the battles over Khalkhin Gol, it turned out that the Japanese pilots did not withstand such overloads that Soviet pilots suffered.


At the same time, in the battles between the American and Japanese pilots during the Second World War, the physiological difference between them in this respect was practically not noted.

But the German pilots of the Luftwaffe overwhelmingly avoided maneuvering fights on turns with Soviet fighters, because they could not withstand heavy overloads. This fact was confirmed by the training air battles of the German aces with captured Russian pilots, who, even when weakened, could fight on equal terms with the pilots of Goering.


American specialists were even more surprised during the war in North Korea, where US Air Force pilots everywhere used high-rise suits. IWC facilitated the work of the pilot in case of overloads (air is automatically supplied to the suit under pressure, compressing the abdomen, legs, arms, which normalizes blood circulation and facilitates the physical effect of overload).

And the Soviet pilots did not have such suits during the Korean War, and flew in their usual uniform, leather jackets, sometimes just T-shirts and uniform pants of the Chinese or North Korean air force.
The US Air Force admitted that they are not able to fight with the Russians


In the air battles, the US Air Force pilots quickly realized that if the MiG-15 repeatedly performs maneuvers with extreme overloads during the air combat, then this is a Soviet pilot. If he does not go for it, then this is a very weakened Chinese or North Korean pilot who you can not fear so much ...

A similar pattern was repeated during the Vietnam War.



Knowing these differences in physiology, the Pentagon, until recently, quite successfully sought to hide this fact. And therefore, he focused on air battles at medium, and even better, long range, where the decisive factor was the advantage of the US Air Force fighter jets in the enemy's detection range, the presence of missiles of the appropriate combat radius, and the subtlety of their own aircraft.

But in Syria, the US Air Force had to face the newest models of Russian electronic warfare (EW), which equipped the aircraft of the generation of the 4 ++ generation. And it turned out that they are capable of neutralizing the means of detecting and tracking airborne radar fighters of the US Air Force, as well as virtually guaranteed to prevent American missiles of medium and long range from reaching the target.

Thus, in the event of a potential conflict, the US Air Force fighter pilots will have to engage in close air combat with Russian pilots who are physiologically better prepared for it.


That is why, as evidenced in the Molecular Research Center of the US Air Force 59 Medical Aviation Group, an urgent task was received here from the Pentagon to urgently conduct research on this topic and develop means for enhancing the physical fitness of American pilots.

We are talking about both bio-additives and drugs.

At the first stage of the research, certain differences were found in the composition of synovial fluid and RNA tissues belonging to Caucasians of Russian origin and Americans, which, however, was to be expected.

And in the “special conditions” which are not subject to disclosure, there was a requirement to receive these samples from fighter pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces in a mandatory manner.

That is why it is quite understandable that such a panic arose after the statement of the President of Russia, since it directly hinted that the Kremlin was aware of the helplessness of the US Air Force.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2017 06: 19 New
    +1
    The US Air Force admitted that they are not able to fight with the Russians

    So what then? Screaming, screaming about the Russian threat, while threatening to smash Russia to smithereens, but in reality?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 10 November 2017 07: 52 New
      24
      Again urapatriotic delirium. And on both sides. In the event of a war between the United States and Russia, there will be no winners. And the rest is tin toy soldiers. hi
      1. stas
        stas 10 November 2017 11: 43 New
        +8
        It is dangerous to underestimate the enemy No. 1.
        The Americans are strong and dangerous, of course we are no worse and know how to fight.
        But such articles are of no use.
        1. dzuar saubarag
          dzuar saubarag 11 November 2017 10: 50 New
          +4
          And from a scientific point of view, it sounds somehow dubious. More like a disu (like we just want our pilots to fly like Russians), in the hope that this will distract attention from some other goals
      2. iouris
        iouris 10 November 2017 13: 32 New
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        In the event of a war between the United States and Russia, there will be no winners.

        Where is the USSR? Answer: he defeated himself. And "in the event of a war" of the USA with the Russian Federation, who will defeat himself before?
        1. stas
          stas 10 November 2017 14: 27 New
          +6
          The USSR was not defeated, it was betrayed by the elite of power, who wanted to become kings, khans, panes, and bays.
          Russia is the successor to the USSR.
      3. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 10 November 2017 18: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Again urapatriotic delirium. And on both sides. In the event of a war between the United States and Russia, there will be no winners. And the rest is tin toy soldiers. hi

        This is nonsense! The winners will be us! Because we will have several orders of magnitude more clean territory, water, food and people who can survive in any conditions! But it’s better to put the Anglo-Saxons on their knees without vigorous bombs!
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 12 November 2017 18: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The US Air Force admitted that they are not able to fight with the Russians
      So what then? Screaming, screaming about the Russian threat, while threatening to smash Russia to smithereens, but in reality?


      How many times they repeated to the world,
      That flattery is vile, harmful; but just not for the future,
      And in the heart a flatterer will always find a corner.
  2. Petr1
    Petr1 10 November 2017 06: 32 New
    +9
    Meldonius, not otherwise, is accepted by Russian pilots !!!
    1. krops777
      krops777 10 November 2017 07: 42 New
      +7
      Meldonius, not otherwise, is accepted by Russian pilots !!!


      Rather, the lifestyle and features of the national cuisine.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 10 November 2017 08: 44 New
        16
        I read the article and, as they say, smiled. The Americans decided to learn the secret of Russian endurance, spending millions of dollars to study Russian biomaterial. Yes, let the American pass several tests from Russian reality.
        The first test, the easiest, even if the American after a big holiday, with a deep hangover, crawls into a crowded minibus and standing on one leg, holding with two fingers, will drive to work.
        The second test, more complicated, let the American go to a Russian clinic, get a coupon for an appointment and break through to the doctor at least three hours later.
        The third test, the most difficult, to give an American 15 thousand Russian rubles and make him live a decent month, paying all mandatory and unforeseen payments, and maintaining a sense of humor.
        Do you say pheasants? Well stupid ... (c) yes
        1. vredlo
          vredlo 10 November 2017 14: 35 New
          +4
          I remember an American who came to the college (where my mother worked) at 90, to teach English as an exchange, so when the apartment rented for him was flooded by neighbors from above, he lay down, covered himself with a mattress and called for help, the funny thing is that after his departure a request came for him to connection with his expulsion from the country for espionage laughed at James Bond for a long time
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 11 November 2017 20: 23 New
          0
          Have you ever been to the New York subway? Minibus, you say ... not everyone is given such a generous life. And as for the hangover, everything is in order there, many right in the cars are catching up.
          Three hours to the doctor? Do you want to wait a month? To a general practitioner who doesn’t understand Nichrome in your illness, he will write out (finally) a referral to a urologist. And there is still to wait.
          Well, about the money it’s completely ridiculous. Do you really think that TAM is so easier to live on a salary? Kids ....
      3. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 10 November 2017 12: 42 New
        +1
        "... Russian vodka, brown bread, herring ..."
        Vika Tsyganova has long merged the Russian survival recipe into common use laughing
  3. shinobi
    shinobi 10 November 2017 07: 08 New
    +7
    The phrase- "What is good for the Russian, death is a German (foreigner)" -not just appeared.
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 10 November 2017 07: 12 New
    +2
    Well, for example, the physiology did not solve everything for the Japanese - planes could not withstand overloads, as they were designed with a minimum margin of safety for the sake of lightness, speed and maneuverability. Because they fought on equal terms with the Americans, but they lost planes from minimal damage, with which our and American planes could still fly and participate in aerial combat.
    And in Korea, our pilots did not use anti-overload suits not from dashing, but from their banal absence.
    I didn’t understand about Vietnam at all - the Soviet pilots participating in the battles, and not the instructors, were, as it were, not present.
    1. avia12005
      10 November 2017 07: 17 New
      +5
      30 on April 1971 was killed while on duty as instructor pilot Captain Y. Poyarkov, and on 23 March 1973 was instructor pilot Captain V. Mrykhin.
      Source and details: http://www.airaces.ru/stati/sovetskie-specialisty
      -vvs-i-pvo-vo-vetname.html
      Did not fight? Here in detail
      http://www.proza.ru/2013/12/27/1648
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 10 November 2017 09: 16 New
        +4
        You contradict yourself. I am talking about the fact that the instructors were there, and the author, to whom you refer, writes about the same thing: "We have not officially fought in Vietnam. We were military experts and instructors."
        And no one denies the loss of pilot instructors; these are quite official data.
        1. avia12005
          10 November 2017 11: 15 New
          0
          Read the second link. And generally google. Fought.
      2. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 13 November 2017 22: 15 New
        0
        The war in Vietnam ended in December 1972. On the 26th was the last raid on Hanoi and Haiphong
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 10 November 2017 12: 44 New
      +1
      There weren’t officially our ZRV-shniks there either. lol
      But my father was definitely there!
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 November 2017 07: 26 New
    +6
    leads to the ingress of outside air into the F-35 cockpit, “enriched” with spent aviation fuel vapors with consequences for the pilot.

    ... taxis are sitting on the exhaust ... maybe they can also offer BF glue to make it better ... laughing
    1. Petr1
      Petr1 10 November 2017 08: 39 New
      +2
      Shhhh ... And then in a friend on the review minors or foreigners, you might think and really you can smell Bf !!!
      1. novel66
        novel66 10 November 2017 09: 55 New
        +4
        of course! you need to smell "moment" and "BF" you need to drink
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 November 2017 10: 18 New
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          of course! you need to smell "moment" and "BF" you need to drink

          Sniff from a sachet, drink from a drill :))))
          1. novel66
            novel66 10 November 2017 10: 19 New
            +4
            for sure! colleague - hi
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 10 November 2017 12: 46 New
              +1
              Drinking it is difficult. Easier to gnaw after drying wassat
              1. novel66
                novel66 10 November 2017 12: 53 New
                +4
                unfamiliar with technology? tongue
  6. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 10 November 2017 08: 57 New
    +6
    Enchanting nonsense, they started with dna, and then switched to airplanes ... urgently open the rubric of cheers-patriotic fiction
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 November 2017 09: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Enchanting nonsense, they started with dna, and then switched to airplanes ... urgently open the rubric of cheers-patriotic fiction

      If the enemy attacks
      We will defeat the enemy
      Little blood, mighty blow
      (And on its territory - according to the concept of those years)
      The song was written a couple of years before the start of the Second World War
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 10 November 2017 10: 02 New
        -1
        The main thing in a truth-filled frenzy about how "everything is bad with us" is not to forget that the author writes about AMERICAN projects and refers to their own sources of information.
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 10 November 2017 10: 01 New
      +1
      No, not nonsense. Amers apparently have another problem with the F-35, namely with the pilots. A weight of 62 kg with all the details means that the weight of a person should be somewhere around 50 kg. A slender tip turns out to fly only in a straight line with light turns, because no anti-overload suit will help with intensive maneuvering. In addition, with this weight, the muscles should be very trained, but then there will be no brains smile (a joke, if that). So to determine which genes are responsible for increased resistance to overload will help to create drugs that improve the musculoskeletal system even with a small pilot weight.
      In this sense, the main message of the article about the reasons for the procurement of fabric samples is true, and as far as the far-reaching conclusions about the unpreparedness of US aviation to fight with the Russians ... smile
      1. PPK
        PPK 10 November 2017 11: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: dzvero
        A weight of 62 kg with all the details means that the weight of a person should be somewhere around 50 kg.

        Did you come up with this yourself or is there any reliable source? I just took the first photo of the pilots that came across, maybe of course I did, but here it’s obviously not 62 kg.


        1. dzvero
          dzvero 10 November 2017 12: 15 New
          0
          From the article ...
          But if this deficiency can somehow be eliminated, then another circumstance led to the very real crisis of the entire F-35 program: the fact is that, according to the American edition of the Fiscal Times, which in turn referred to the Pentagon, It requires pilots weighing no more than 62 kg, taking into account the equipment. This is due to the features of the cockpit and the working conditions of the pilots.
          1. PPK
            PPK 10 November 2017 12: 41 New
            +3
            Well, lying article turns out. We must not believe everything in a row.
            What a delusional reference to the publication with the talking title Fiscal Times, which itself refers not clearly where.
            I rummaged there all the articles about F-35, about the weight of 62kg anywhere in any there is not a single mention. But I found another.
            flightglobal.com 3 On April 2017 announced that Martin-Baker had carried out final tests of its ejection seats and abolished weight limit for pilots less 62kg. Do not find that in the article on VO simply misrepresented the original information?
            Here is a link to the original news, if you do not believe
            https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/usaf-c
            ompletes-last-tests-for-f-35-ejection-seat-435792
        2. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 10 November 2017 12: 49 New
          0
          These photos just say that the "tip" is the growth of a cap! Compare the size of the NATO tactical backpack and the growth of the pilot.
          165 cm maximum ...
          1. PPK
            PPK 10 November 2017 12: 56 New
            +3
            Yes, you have a diamond eye. Give the model of the backpack and its dimensions. Let's try to calculate growth together.
            In the meantime, I’ll throw the youngsters with the F-35. Here you can measure with bags or tablets.
            1. Ncplc
              Ncplc 10 November 2017 13: 56 New
              +2
              Have you seriously decided to discuss this topic ?!
        3. dzuar saubarag
          dzuar saubarag 11 November 2017 10: 55 New
          0
          It was this thought that crossed my mind. Remembering the materials of the photo and video on the subject of F-35, the pilots always had a normal (read strong) constitution!
  7. Sars
    Sars 10 November 2017 10: 23 New
    0
    I already heard about this topic (twenty years ago) from a veteran of the Air Force. He recalled that the Angolans suffered very little overload. Instead of banana, he advised them to eat Russian borsch.
  8. CONTROL
    CONTROL 10 November 2017 10: 39 New
    +3
    according to the American publication Fiscal Times, which, in turn, referred to the Pentagon, it requires pilots weighing no more than 62 kg, taking into account equipment. This is due to the features of the aircraft cabin and the working conditions of the pilots.
    As the whole history of air combat testifies, a pilot with such a weight is simply not able to conduct air combat with extreme overloads.

    In air battles, the US Air Force pilots quickly realized that if the MiG-15 repeatedly performs maneuvers with extreme overloads during an air battle, then this is a Soviet pilot.

    It’s a long open secret!
    Racial differences: the Slavs and people of the Slavic type of physique (and this is the Northern Chinese, the Mongols, Kyrgyz, Kazakhs and all sorts of Tungus, Finns and Scandinavians ...) better tolerate overloads. The environment "educates" the phenotype and genotype "? Everything is direct according to the" reactionary "Lysenko!
    We still have this Lysenko cursed, and in Europe-Asia-America, based on his ideas, the work in medicine and biology is in full swing. Our biological science lags behind - about intraclan squabbles among the RAS, the former VASKHNIL and the like ... Vavilovites-Morganists-Weismans ... In general, the result is a lag in medicine and biology.
  9. Yuri Simonov
    Yuri Simonov 10 November 2017 11: 26 New
    0
    This statement may be true, but I think it somewhat depreciates the skill and courage of Russian pilots.
    1. iouris
      iouris 10 November 2017 12: 11 New
      +1
      Courage without skill is like non-alcoholic beer. Mastery is formed by the training system and is achieved through hard work. A necessary (but not sufficient) condition is plaque. Hour of a flight - 20.000 US dollars.
  10. PPK
    PPK 10 November 2017 11: 45 New
    +1
    Horses mixed up in a bunch, people .. ETOGES it was necessary for the author to smoke like that.
  11. iouris
    iouris 10 November 2017 11: 46 New
    +1
    Only a very authoritative specialist can speak out on such a topic, not just in the field of aerospace medicine, namely, in matters related to the psychophysiological support of combat maneuvering. What kind of US armed forces is attributed to the collection of biomaterials - the tenth thing, they will still lie. I believe that the collection of such material makes sense to monitor the results of the impact on the health of citizens of the Russian Federation of nutrition and living conditions in the period after the globalizers came to power.
    1. andrew xnumx
      andrew xnumx 10 November 2017 22: 48 New
      +1
      Whatever they discuss, but their biolaboratory around the perimeter of our borders is a huge danger and something needs to be done.
  12. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 10 November 2017 12: 29 New
    +3
    It seems that the new mental illness "moron-patriotism", spread from Ukraine to Russia ...
  13. iouris
    iouris 10 November 2017 14: 04 New
    +4
    The ability or psychophysiological readiness to carry overloads in flight is formed in the pilot during training and in real flights. The assertion that the Russian nation has supremacy is an unscientific fantasy bordering on racism. Let someone prove that in the course of combat training of pilots (KBP) there are standards for the intensity of combat maneuvering that limit the minimum overload. Practice has shown that during flights, the average pilot seeks to perform a maneuver with a comfortable overload, not exceeding 3..3,5G. Such overloads do not provide superiority over the enemy. So statements that the US Air Force is not able to fight with the Russians due to the fact that the Russians have superior ability to bear the overload - stupidity or wrecking.
  14. avia12005
    10 November 2017 14: 42 New
    0
    Quote: PPK
    Well, lying article turns out. We must not believe everything in a row.
    What a delusional reference to the publication with the talking title Fiscal Times, which itself refers not clearly where.
    I rummaged there all the articles about F-35, about the weight of 62kg anywhere in any there is not a single mention. But I found another.
    flightglobal.com 3 On April 2017 announced that Martin-Baker had carried out final tests of its ejection seats and abolished weight limit for pilots less 62kg. Do not find that in the article on VO simply misrepresented the original information?
    Here is a link to the original news, if you do not believe
    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/usaf-c
    ompletes-last-tests-for-f-35-ejection-seat-435792

    There's just nonsense-- "The United States Air Force completed environmental electromagnetic impact tests (EEE) on the Lockheed Martin F-35 23 March Rescue System, marking the last round of tests on the Martin-Baker US16E (MKk16)." What is the EM effect to the ejection seat, also on the environment ??? In addition, the phrase "whether to remove restrictions on pilots weighing less than 62 kg (136lb)," can be interpreted in two ways: whether it is possible to weigh less than this, or not .... Who can translate this more accurately?
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2017 17: 16 New
    0
    Well, yes, the anus of the Amerkos is weak, the sphincter does not hold water at all ...
  16. NF68
    NF68 10 November 2017 21: 34 New
    +3
    But the German pilots of the Luftwaffe overwhelmingly avoided maneuvering fights on turns with Soviet fighters, because they could not withstand heavy overloads. This fact was confirmed by the training air battles of the German aces with captured Russian pilots, who, even when weakened, could fight on equal terms with the pilots of Goering.


    The roll speed of the German FW-190 A at almost all flight speeds was higher than that of any Soviet fighter. And even the FW-190 D-9, whose roll speed was slightly lower than that of the aircraft of the “A” series, also performed well on the horizontal. German fighter pilots preferred the “hit and run” tactics using the good climb rate of Me-109 fighters. And even the relatively heavy FW-190, if their mercies didn’t slow down, could, due to inertia, gain height and then take a comfortable position to attack Soviet planes again. The Americans used the same tactics over the Pacific Ocean and experienced pilots could achieve not bad results on relatively heavy ones with a high specific load on the Wildcats, despite the fact that the Japanese Zero were much better on the horizontal. At the expense of the one who withstood, and who did not withstand the overload during WWII, past the cash register.
    1. NN52
      NN52 10 November 2017 22: 56 New
      +7
      And what is roll speed? Please clarify.
      1. iouris
        iouris 11 November 2017 00: 36 New
        +1
        Here, most likely, we mean angular velocity - an important criterion for maneuverability that characterizes the "agility" of a fighter. German fighters had rather high available angular velocities.
      2. NF68
        NF68 12 November 2017 16: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: NN52
        And what is roll speed? Please clarify.


        The roll speed of the aircraft is the speed of rotation of the aircraft relative to its longitudinal axis. The robust design of the FW-190 A-1-A-9 series without the guns and FW-190 D-9 installed in the consoles made it possible to obtain very high roll speed of these aircraft. Me-109 had lower structural strength and therefore roll speed was slightly lower. The same was true of permissible overloads when taking the aircraft out of a dive. The pilots on the Me-109 could not afford to develop the same high speed and overload as the pilots of the FW-190.
  17. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx 10 November 2017 22: 45 New
    0
    We are simply the best warriors in the world, we have the will to win. And physiology in this case is nonsense. We still need to raise the economy!
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 November 2017 00: 53 New
      0
      "Will of the will, as long as I have strength / And I dragged away / I pulled 10, like five hundred and spoxy" (V. Vysotsky).
  18. NN52
    NN52 10 November 2017 23: 28 New
    +8
    Well, I don’t even know what to say about the article ...
    Especially this: (Its piloting, even with overloads that are very insignificant in comparison with Russian planes, leads to the outside air entering the F-35 cockpit, “enriched” with spent aviation fuel vapors with consequences for the pilot.) - how do you understand this ?????

    We have the criteria for pilots in fighter aircraft 165 - 185 cm, the weight can be calculated minus 101 ....
    Pilot training, loping, trampoline. Particular attention to the abs and legs.

    And a question for iouris. what is the overload of the cadets on l 39 on the usual loop-half-loop complex? difficult aerobatics on the 3rd course
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 November 2017 00: 46 New
      0
      I can’t say, but I think it’s small, because the thrust ratio and speed of the L-39 are very moderate. General considerations are as follows. On the ascending part of the loop, the speed drops sharply, since the inductive component of the drag is proportional to the square of the normal overload and the projection of gravity is directed against the traction force. However, when entering a loop, a short-term overload overload (fraction of a second) can be large (probably 4,5 ... 5G), if you are talking about this. I pointed precisely to the "average overload per maneuver." It is easy to control overload overload using SARPP-12 records, however, the average overload per maneuver can only be calculated using a digital computer; no one considers it manually.
      1. NN52
        NN52 11 November 2017 11: 00 New
        +8
        Short-term cast up to 6 units. Managed to bring up to 7 (but this is already a prerequisite), this is when the plane was vigorously laid on his back, it is dangerous ...
        And by the way, on l 39 there was an overload indicator in the cab.

        So they taught us to overload from the cradle of cadets ..
        I don’t know how the Americans do with this ...
        1. iouris
          iouris 11 November 2017 14: 10 New
          0
          Quote: NN52
          accustomed to overload from the cradle of cadets

          By the age of 30, former cadets have children, stomachs and a career ceiling. These factors do not contribute to maintaining psychophysiological readiness to achieve superiority over the enemy in close maneuvering aerial combat. A plane is as effective as a pilot. The Americans also have this situation, but they often fight, which helps. If you want peace, always fight.
          1. NN52
            NN52 11 November 2017 16: 48 New
            +8
            Have you seen active fighter pilots? We do not take Swifts or Knights as an example.
            What bellies are you talking about? Immediately, the diagnosis of obesity of some degree will end up ... Medicine keeps a tight watch ...
            And there is the concept of flown .... The more you fly, the better the portability of congestion. Now they fly a lot.
            I no longer fly, but in my 45 belly is not observed ... The same is with my friends, acting and not acting pilots.
            1. iouris
              iouris 12 November 2017 13: 52 New
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              Glad for you and your friends. But I am a practitioner. He conducted a study with analysis of objective control data recorded using digital recorders on different types of aircraft. Observation data make it possible to unequivocally say that the basis for combat maneuvering is an individual style of activity, i.e. two pilots under the same conditions, the duration of the maneuver (loop, turn) can vary by 2 times. They maneuver in different ways, because the average overload per maneuver and time are connected by a linear relationship (the longer the time, the less the overload).
              1. NN52
                NN52 12 November 2017 18: 30 New
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                Glad for your research ... 2 times it can’t differ, in peacetime ..
                Turnovers, speed, pitch, roll, etc. are prescribed for all the same when piloting ..
                A loop, a bend cannot be twice LONGER, IN PRINCIPLE.
                It may vary slightly depending on the level of pilot training.

                Are you by any chance not a medic from 7 TsVKAG? Some kind of linear relationship is visible ...
                1. iouris
                  iouris 12 November 2017 20: 39 New
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                  Quote: NN52
                  You are by no means a medic

                  I presented you the data, which are based on the automated processing of data of real flights and flights of pilots on a simulator equipped with an on-board recorder. Just to broaden your horizons. And how you will use them is not my business. Sincerely.
  19. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 11 November 2017 18: 57 New
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    Dear author! I'm afraid in my opinion this theory is far-fetched for several reasons.
    1. The US strategy does not provide for local clashes with the Russian Federation in the airspace of any state. (could be wrong)
    2. It’s better to buy this material from pilots, moreover, combat aircraft. And this is a problem with the right actions of special services.
    3. On the territory of satellite countries, you can find similar material from former Russian pilots. It is simpler and does not require publicity. There are a number of considerations.
    I myself don’t understand for what purpose this order was placed on the site, but I will collect the information and analyze
  20. avia12005
    12 November 2017 13: 16 New
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    What are you arguing about? Won the Israeli F-35 hit a bird))) https://politexpert.net/75697-f-35-i-siriiskii-zr
    ks-xnumx-izrail-nastaivaet-na-incidente-s-pticei
  21. avia12005
    12 November 2017 13: 18 New
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    Quote: andrej-shironov
    And in the “special conditions” which are not subject to disclosure, there was a requirement to receive these samples from fighter pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces in a mandatory manner.

    The penultimate paragraph says just about this, that is, about collecting material from the pilots of the FAC of the Russian Federation
  22. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 13 November 2017 09: 04 New
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    And in sports, then why are our indicators not an order of magnitude higher?
  23. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 13 November 2017 22: 10 New
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    There is such a science - eugenics. Declared pseudoscience and decent people about it Zaikatstsa not ordered. If at least part of the article is true, then ... draw your own conclusions.
  24. avia12005
    14 November 2017 16: 54 New
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    Another fact: Will call for help: National Interest told what the F-35 will do in a collision with Su-35
    https://politros.com/armiya/96220/ drinks
  25. Igor Verevkin
    Igor Verevkin 14 November 2017 17: 18 New
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    Lord, what a ridiculous putriotic heresy? Not only that this news does not exist anywhere outside Runet, and it was clearly written by some kind of Olga troll, but the degree of anti-scientific dullness in it just rolls over.

    Guys, the Americans in 2018 will buy 90 F-35. Russia purchased 64 Su-35s. True, since 2009.

    so who is there who is unable to fight?